#pierre discourse

[sdv-confessions]

I feel like 90% of the discourse in Stardew Valley can be solved if we all stopped and remembered that the majority of the game's story was originally written between 2011-2016 and thus contains sentiments that have not aged to carry the exact same meanings and intentions 10 years later/in 2025 and any analysis for the game and characters should take that into account.

Because once you actually stop and look at a lot of the discourse that way, it all makes sense.

"Is Clint an incel?" By 2016 standards 100%. But by 2025 standards it isn't as cut and dry anymore because of the current climate regarding understanding gender norms, generational trauma, and mental health struggles. Now, Clint could be declared either just an incel or as just a man in arrested development with mental health struggles, depending on the viewpoints of people who played the game during which decade.

"Is Pierre as bad as Joja?" In 2016, absolutely not, and for a majority of the game in 2025, not really. He's a man struggling to stay afloat in a dying town and using any dirty tactic he can, because his competitors (Joja) are doing the same. But once Joja is truly fully gone and by the time the movie theater is there to replace the building, any grey area Pierre has is gone and he's becoming the very thing he sought to fight against.

"Is Lewis a bad mayor and bad person?" At first a lot of people didn't care much and would answer no, but then as the fanbase became more politically aware outside of the game, they came to realize that yes, he is. Even if he doesn't intend to be, Lewis is still a bad mayor and a pretty bad person when you stop and really analyze things. (though I think he has the chance to change).

"Is Demetrius a terrible father/husband?" When the game first came out, most people would have said no. Especially given the stereotypes of kids like Sebastian at the time, people assumed the issues going on were just overexaggerated. But like with Clint, the views and climate around what makes a good parent and partner in a relationship in 2025 affects how we view him. Add on top of that the clear signs of neurodivergence, and ablism discussions are now added to the mix. The answer now varies depending on a multitude of factors.

Overall, imo, I think the game is just in a state where a majority of it can't age along with its now ginormous player base. CA can make changes, sure, but he'd have to rebuild the entire game from the ground up to address every minor detail of discourse that's come up over the years. At that point, he might as well just make an entirely new game.

Which he is. In Haunted Chocolatier. Which will very likely be influenced by the world and views CA is involved in from 2020 to release.

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[ghostlydeanbailiffcloud]

I found this tweet pretty helpful about Pierre's insights?(not sure that's the right word..)

[Translation:

So what we can remember from Pierre's intervention tonight on the subject:

He stayed in contact with Pomme (who wants to continue QSMP) & Léa (who doesn't want to come back), especially to reassure them. He's doing a big pressing(?) for Pomme's return.

He's conscious that the changes are gonna take time (weeks or even months) he leaves(?) this time for Quackity to make changes. If nothing changes, he'll leave and do other projects.

He suggested solutions to help finance the project to Quackity, like sponsoring (like a village on the map with the sponsors), to release merch (but it takes a while to be made) or that the QSMP streamers finanacially participate to help pay the admins.

Aypierre is conscious that he isn't a multigaming streamer (his viewership isn't as good on games that aren't minecraft), to go without QSMP, a server he really likes is also a risk for him to lose sponsorship that he can't afford.

He then criticized the big french twitter accounts that only come to add twitter drama on the fact he returned to the server when they don't even care about QSMP usually.

He understands the viewers/ccs that don't want to come back yet.

[roxannepolice]

This is me, figuring out how "Flood" may be a misspelling of "Floss", which would obviously mean Mrs Flood is the oral hygiene product needed to free the Master from the tooth

[anonymous-dentist]

I do think it’s real funny how all these people on Twitter are saying that Quackity is what made Ordem Paranormal popular when A) the series has been going on since 2020, B) it’s been MASSIVELY POPULAR since 2020, C) it’s had a video game adaptation in the works for years + now multiple rulebooks for a custom rpg + merch so popular that the website crashes when the merch drops, and D) the second half of OPQ, aka the second half of the oneshot that Quackity was in, seems to hold the record for the Ordem episode with the least amount of views on YouTube

I just think it’s like. Guys, come on. Aren’t you tired of looking ridiculous?

[qtubbo]

Honestly the moment you accuse a cc of metagaming the moment I know you just hate the cc and just want an excuse to publicly hate on them. A constant theme throughout the server is the moment a character starts being disliked for any reason, people start calling the cc a metagamer without any proof or logic.

[kitsunequeen1987]

So I've had Stardew Valley for about two weeks now (favorite game ever tbh) and I recently discovered that this community just- doesn't like Pierre. Morris, and Lewis I can kinda understand (Morris even more so) but why Pierre? /gen

[valyrfia]

KIKA AND LILY GIVE ME A CHAAANNCCCEEE GIVE ME A CHANCE!! I CAN DRIVE! NOT WELL BUT I CAN TRUST ME PLEASE GIVE ME A CHAAANNNCCESE!! OP your thoughts are SO VALID i need Pierre and Oscar to wife them up soon lest I shoot my shot

Kika and Lily I can show you the world (lesbianism) if you just let me.

[qsmpconfessions]

I find it annoying how people refuse to accept when Content Creators makes mistakes and actively try to correct themselves when chastised. I get that Pierre made very offending jokes and have made a mistake of reacting to the hate and criticism by being aggressive (which did not help his case at all) but have you all stopped to consider that he's trying to make himself better?

Do you guys have no faith in Quackity? The guy who would and HAVE cut people off if they were horrible people? Quackity himself has said that he sat Pierre down and talked to him about why his words and actions were harmful to others. Quackity himself said that Pierre was very open to listening and learning what he did wrong and even asked to be educated more on the subject.

I understand why you'd dislike Aypierre after all that shitshow, but ya'll have no right to hate on the other CCs because of what he said and did. Maximus can do rp with anyone he wants. And Quackity can kick anyone in that server whenever he wants because HE owns it. The fact that he hasn't kicked Pierre out is very telling, no?

For fuck's sake, people need to learn how to forgive. If Pierre messes up again and shows no remorse, then I'd be happy to say I was wrong. But if this man's efforts to change get disregarded because degenerates in the internet don't understand the concept of forgiveness, then I don't even know what you people want. No one is fucking perfect, YOU are not perfect.

And before ya'll start rallying, no, I am not fucking white.

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[singsweetmelodies]

My fave discourse in the whole le*tappen thing is the "Charles said he drinks RB!" Like bitch of course he does??? Pierre mainlined that YEARS. You really trying to tell me that he likes the energy drink that tastes like battery acid because of golden booties?

Take that argument ALLLLLL the way out of here.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD, i have to say, i've never heard this particular one 🤣😭😭 but that's... okay, to me, that's perhaps the most absurd reach i've heard so far. "charles drinks red bull so it must be because he's in love with max" riiiight... or, you know, charles drinks it because it's a popular energy drink, and he's been on record multiple times saying he doesn't like coffee. just a thought 🤷🤦‍♀️

honestly though! this might be one of the most ridiculous discourse takes i've heard in a long time, oh goodness. thanks so much for bringing it to my attention, anon - i had a good laugh just now 🤣🤦‍♀️

[sdv-confessions]

I feel like people don’t like Morris for the same reason they don’t like Pierre (and to a lesser extent, Lewis). He’s just really pushy and if you don’t like his brand of cocky bastard he’s super obnoxious. Same reason people who love Pierre also love Morris. Nothing to do with his aesthetic qualities (at least as far as I’ve seen, could be off base here and I acknowledge that :3!)

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[makingtheroadbywalking]

- Academic Discourse: Linguistic Misunderstanding and Professorial Power,  Pierre Bourdieu et al ‘systemic’ concerns plaguing the university include systems we’re a part of. teaching is a system. classroom learning is a system. that said, how do we cultivate this understanding collectively? how to not feel like you’re powerless, that this is how it’ll be?

[frenchie-fallen-angel]

"Farewell to Us" an anti-shipping culture anthem

"We could have silenced their opinions. And in their stares I saw you flee. We both got lost in their desires. The future we planned at night, will only live in memories. We ended up destroying ourselves for them."

The MV speaks for itself, even if you don't speak french you can easily understand that he's talking about a realationship getting destroyed by the pressure society (the media and the public) put on celebrities and their private relationships.

I think a lot of fandom should listen to him because maybe Pierre can say what he wants in his songs but that's not the case of most artists under big companies.

"Farewell to us. We could have hold on Together, without them. Farewell to us. We could have chosen The two of us, without them."

[amphitritebaby]

sometimes i remember that ludwig the yard is like 2 degrees of separation from french youtuber squeezie. who once had charles leclerc and pierre gasly on his yt channel. and im just saying. pierre gasly on the yard would be funny. thats all im saying

[pridetimeswithshadow]

Bro this is just painful to watch. It’s all just miscommunication. I’m so sorry blue team watchers and Pierre watchers, I know he’s been having it rough with this whole event.

[communistkenobi]

if we want to talk about where trans men tend to be overrepresented in transphobic discourse, it’s in relation to scaremongering media profiles of detransitioners, framing trans men as misunderstood women with internalised misogyny who have mutilated our bodies and are now left ‘ruined’ because of HRT and surgery. This is used to argue for policies that restrict access to trans healthcare, especially for minors (notice how often we are talked about as “young girls”!) putting a ‘sympathetic’ face to transgender hysteria by talking about the “victims” of transgenderism. But this is still an incomplete picture without accounting for transmisogyny, as trans women are the “perpetrators” of this victimisation, convincing “confused young women” to cut off their breasts and take testosterone. It centres around the ‘corruption’ of femininity, as trans men forsake our ‘natural’ femaleness and trans women as ‘appropriating’ it.

This is why Matt Walsh, JKR, and other prominent transphobic figures asks the question “what is a woman?” and not “what is a man?”, it’s why Posie Parker advocates for armed cis men to go into women’s bathrooms to “protect women from men invading women’s spaces,” its why terfs are so fixated on trans women as ur-misogynists, it’s why right wing politicians like Pierre Poilievre & the Conservative Party of Canada focus their ire on blocking trans women from public spaces.

Saying this is not a denial of trans men as victims of transphobia (hello! I am a frequent one!) and its endlessly frustrating that these conversations get derailed into “well what about MY experience where XYZ horrible thing happened to me” as if the conversation about transphobia should only ever remain in the realm of interpersonal violence and victimisation. It’s very handy to stay in that arena because the only rebuttal to that tactic is to deny this random person’s experiences or “ignore their lived reality.” But I’m not talking about experience! Transphobia is a structural force in the world which means we don’t actually need to rely on individual accounts of violence to understand it. taking stock of that structure is only a “threat” to “trans masc voices” if you think structural discussions of oppression are de facto “misandrist”

[babybearnation]

when you lovingly call my name

⎇f1 drivers x gn!reader ; you exchange contact names (texts) ⎇contains: alex albon, arthur leclerc, charles leclerc, dino beganovic, george russell, zhou guanyu, kimi antonelli, lance stroll, lando norris, liam lawson, logan sargeant, max verstappen, mick schumacher, ollie bearman, oscar piastri, paul aron, pierre gasly, yuki tsunoda ⎇author's note: y'all remember the contact name discourse? ⎇content warnings: potentially incorrect characters (guanyu), breakup joke (pierre), potentially incorrect honorific (yuki)

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