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Louis' PING Profile ✨ (Jan '11 - Sep '12)

this is the rebloggable post linking to THIS very long post, in which I archived + transcribed all info of the 60+ screenshots of Louis' PING (iTunes) profile, which he used Jan 2011 - Sep 2012.
🎧 I also created a Spotify playlist of all the songs Louis liked, posted and bought.
and a few sneak peeks that made emo :') these are all from 2011
A huge shoutout to Kate @hotsauceharry for taking all the 60+ screenshots 13 years ago, so that we didn't lose all this info 💖

#please feel free to reblog this post instead of that hugely long other one if you don't like such long posts on your dash#louis PING profile#louis and music#louis music taste#paz rambles#PING#iTunes#mine#louis#rebloggable post#2011#2012#2025
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in Gothenburg Sweden, 23 June 2015 was also where Harry waved the Sweden national flag that had the AIMH tweet printed on the other side (something one could say was in kind of the first "Pride Flag" he waved 🥹)

This entire post -- gosh, that was such a fucking overwhelmingly wild time to live through on here. Even just reading through this timeline, I'm having war flashbacks.
And there was SO much more happening too.. 2015 was a very long decade for them and us.
I still distinctly remember thinking at some point in March/April 2015 "Since WHEN is Louis such a party boy?? hUH? what's going ON? 🤨"
Because the sudden MASSIVE avalanche of the party boy articles and pap shots were super overwhelming and didn't feel organic or "normal" for him at all. Also the amount of strange women he was suddenly papped with.. like.. if you knew how he had usually been papped while maybe out a party.. -- there were usually mostly GUYS around him when he was out partying- IF he even was! Louis wasn't a 'wild club night party boy' - until suddenly he was made to be one.
it felt extra WEIRD AF that he'd suddenly be so cock-in-the-hen-pen.. if one knew the Louis he showed himself as before that. Maybe I'm forgetting something big here, but iirc he didn't really have obvious girl friends before- really mainly just his mates and his beard (E), but E was I think next to never papped out partying with Louis (or maybe I have repressed that memory lmfao) - so THAT was why everything felt so was so EXTRA sus
I obviously can't speak for the entirety of us Larries back then, but within my 'group' it was so obvious to us that he was playing a role even before any of babygate was announced. We just didn't know what the hell was going on; if that was just something to further put distance between Harry and him. For a few weeks I thought "yeah, they're showing him 'partying with a group of strange girls to now also make not just Harry, but also Louis into a womanizer'. (oh, how wrong I was)
Nothing made sense until it suddenly made sense and then it was just A WHOLE MESS when GMA happened. 😭 I remember being in shock the entire day. And feeling so fucking awful for Louis. And for Harry. Anyone who had paid attention to H&L as real people was able to look right through that horrible stunt that had been kicked off. (and goodness how naive we were, thinking it would be a short-lived thing, paternity test after birth, oh it's not his kid, good riddance... 🙃) Anyone who knew them knew it was an absolutely sinister & extremely heavy-handed stunt.
Concert signs, pregnancy allusions, interviews, fonding, and colorful bears: selections from June–October, 2015
5 June, Cardiff: first show of OTRA Europe xx
(this post could be twenty times longer than it already is…)
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6 June, Cardiff
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19 June, Oslo
Harry Magee is present at the concert.
Liam reads “Always in my heart @Harry_Styles” sign, not shown on screen – ‘That is beautiful,’ he says, ‘Absolutely beautiful stuff.’
Harry during Little Things:
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23 June, Gothenburg:
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26 June: Louis is papped with Tamara Bell at Glastonbury Music Festival. (People.com posts story on 28 June)
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27 June, Helsinki
Liam: [There just happens to be a small child there!?] Louis: What’s this baby doing here? Liam: (mock outrage) Who’s thrown their baby on the stage! That’s outrageous! Louis: (tosses the baby away) It’s not real!
Liam: Oh no! Louis: It’s not real. It is not real. Liam: …It is a fake baby, it was fake, for all those people out there who think that was a real baby.
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9 July, San Diego (first show of N. America tour leg)
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14 July: People.com reports pregnancy news (at a reported 11-weeks-gestation)
Dan Wootton didn’t get the exclusive! (‘Yes, Ann Marie Thomson, head of Syco PR is married to Pete Samson who started his career with The Daily Mirror in 2003 and moved to The Sun in 2007 and broke the news that Louis would be a dad in July. That world exclusive belongs to him and he is married to Syco’s PR Directory. Think about that.’ xx)
In early May, Louis was papped with Briana in LA (other people in this video include Oli, Calvin, and Ashley). At least 25 “lothario Louis” articles are published at dailymail.co.uk before “father-to-be Louis” is announced in July.
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15 July, Seattle: first concert after pregnancy announcement
(The stadium fell oddly silent, and Liam commented that things had gotten awkward and uncomfortable.)

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17 July, Vancouver:
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24 July, Winnipeg:
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4 August: on Good Morning America, Louis is offered congratulations on the pregnancy
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Harry during Story of My Life
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5 August, E. Rutherford:

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20 August, Toronto:
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27 August, Cleveland:
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24-30 Sept: UK tour leg begins with six shows at the O2 in London.
RBB and SBB, below, displayed before the first show. They didn’t appear at any other London shows:

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Briana seen with Louis’s family at O2 shows (Daily Mail)
30 Sept: Louis is papped leaving club, accompanied by brunette women
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3 October, Manchester: Harry during Little White Lies

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7 October, Glasgow: During the STV interview, the baby is specifically mentioned to Louis for the second (and last time).
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9 October: Daily Mail reports that Louis is ‘clearly excited’.
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10 October: RBB starts tweeting
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13 October:
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20 October, Belfast: One Direction suddenly cancels the night’s concert
Louis is offered nonspecific congratulations at the end of UTV interview
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21 October: interview with ET after cancelled/postponed concert
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31 October, Sheffield: last night of OTRA tour
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A strong part of me wants this to be truly comprehensive, but there’d probably be 673 gifs involved. I gave up on linking everything (message me, of course, if you’d like credit or a particular link).
#a walk down memory lane#sorry i misused this post as half a journal entry of the past#feel free to delete my rambling when you reblog!#and quietasides thank you so much for making this!!#timeline#RBB and SBB#babygate#OTRA#live#larry#paz rambles#2015#2016
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"Larry!" - "Don't say that."
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Tumblr didn't let me upload it, so to YouTube it went!
I looked for this because of this ask sent to Gina @twopoppies. The moment starts around 12:00. I also agree with Gina that Roman seems to know H & Lou personally since at least 2017. And I'm pretty sure he knows they're (practically) married. We know they don't hide in professional circles (as well as with adult family and friends), but Roman also knows he's not supposed to mention it publicly, so the 'don't say that' makes perfect sense. Ironically, Roman's also the one who called Louis "Louis Styles" twice in succession in a livestream in 2020 while talking very quickly, before becoming self-aware and realising his mistake.
#roman kemp#Everyone knows#larry#outing#capital FM#tierjerker#wanted to make an extra post for archive purposes just in case Capitol FM ever deletes their FB page#video#paz rambles#jan 2021#2021#Youtube
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Imagine time cuz I'm insufferable unfortunately.
But like Ford one day is home alone. Dipper's gone out with Mabel and Stanley, leaving him alone for once. So he's ya know doing his thing, enjoying the peace to the best of his ability when the Mystery Shack door bursts open. Ford looks up, startled because the shop should be closed. And Soos and Melody were in town currently. And he peeks his head around the corner to spot someone he never would have suspected to come to his doorstep. None other than Pacifica Northwest. But that's not the concerning part that puts him on edge.
It's the fact she looks like she's been crying.
Ford's immediately in Gruncle mode, because how could he not when there's a child who's obviously distressed. He sees Pacifica stiffen up when she notices him and he puts his hand up in a peaceful gesture. Looking her up and down and noticing she's got scraps and cuts from what looks like a tumble onto the ground. Ford gestures for her to come inside, letting her know that Dipper and Mabel would be home soon if she wanted to wait up for them. The blonde just nods, not meeting his gaze due to embarrassment. She takes a seat at the kitchen table and Ford gets to work finding band-aids and medicine. It's quiet between them and Ford doesn't know how to break it when Pacifica breaks it. By asking a simple question.
"What do you do, when nothing you do is ever good enough?"
And the older man just freezes. Because he wasn't expecting such a heavy question from someone like Pacifica Northwest of all people. Ford thinks about it, sensing it's a complicated situation for her. And while he's thinking of a response he thinks of his father and how he felt when he couldn't ever do enough for the older man no matter how hard he tried. And while it's not exactly the same it helps him give a response.
"If what you're doing isn't enough, then you move onto something new. There's always going to be some situation or person, where nothing you do will change it. So you have to keep going and go your own way sometimes. There's no shame in it."
And Pacifica she kinda takes it, thinking about it before just giving a nod. Ford leaves it at that, hoping that it helps her somewhat. He doesn't know exactly what's up, but he knows that Pacifica is clearly struggling with something. So he'll try his best to offer advice whenever possible. Especially when it's a friend of his grand niece and nephew.
#oli talks#ooc#muns ramblings#mindless ramblings of a madman#my writing#kinda#getting a feel for this dynamic shhhg#gravity falls#gf#gravity falls stanford#gravity falls pacifica#gravity falls stanley#gravity falls dipper#gravity falls mabel#gravity falls soos#gravity falls melody#gf stanford#gf stanley#gf pacifica#gf dipper#gf mabel#stanford pines#pacifica northwest#stanley pines#dipper pines#mabel pines#soos ramirez#just let me have this#context Paz got into a fight with her parents and went to go to Dipper and Mabel#and she kept stumbling over nature cuz she was upset with the fight which led to the current moment
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Stan and Eda as divorced besties where they have a lil reunion when both of their world ending crises are over and Eda realizing Stan is in love with his brother and she's just like nods "I get it". Eda is in love with Lilith and I'm not taking criticism on that.
Anyways Raine = Fiddleford
#like if you agree lol#stancest#whatever the eda x lilith ship name is#yes i ship fiddlestanwich#and i just think raine/eda/lilith#blame stancest for this#i couldnt ignore the similarities#i dont think they care about incest in the weird witch world#like its not even a concept#you cant try to fight me on it but the block button is my best friend (lol)#someone put the mystery trio next to eda/lilith/raine and tell me you don't see it#you cant#cause im right#mabs and dip meeting Luz and the three of them ranting about Paz/Amity#Lilith and Ford just standing there staring at each other#like🧍♀️🧍♂️#just me rambling atp
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adding the 3rd interview from that day here, the one where Harry says Louis is a good boyfriend and treats him really well.
the tag here from 2015 was "and they haven't done an interview together in the last 3 1/2 years" and now it's almost 13 years later and they have never ever been allowed to do another interview together.
clown ass Syco & Modest! behaviour
like, i need to rant for a second. my memory is awful, so i basically watched these interviews with fresh eyes. they're obviously super comfortable (dare i say: domestic) with each other. the flirting, the banter and the mirroring, and how it sounds like they already knew every single answer the other one is gonna give.. everything is so lovely. it's so obvious how how they sometimes get lost looking at each other and how freely and easily they touch each other. but watching these also got me thinking if you think about interviews where Harry actually said to Zayn, about Louis: "Don't say that.. that he's gay!" (x) Harry: "Lou, can I give you a blowjob?" (x) Harry: "Louis'.. Louis' boyfriend!" / "Can't choose boyfriend." (x) Louis: "And I'd marry you, Harry." (x) Louis: "I'd take Harry for the night." (x) (For my a dinner date I'd choose) Harry: "You, Louis." (x) Harry: "My first real crush was Louis Tomlinson." (x) Fan: "Are you and Louis dating?" Harry: *nods & blushes* (x) Liam: "She looks like Harry". Then, Louis: "Marriage. Sex, everything." (x) Liam: "Female." - Harry: "Not that important." (x) (re: sleeping with a man) Harry: "Hey, don't knock it 'till you try it!" (x) Harry to Louis: "Now kiss me, you fool!" (x) Fan question: "What does Harry taste like?" - Louis: "Salt and vinegar." (x) and their million domestic tweets at and about each other (extensive tweets tag by the wonderful @skepticalarrie)
(and these are only the ones that quickly came to me off the top of me tired brain), then that decision truly baffles and angers me even more. There's like dozens and dozens more instances like the mentioned+linked ones, oftentimes where words weren't even said and they just touched or looked at each other.. and oh my god.. the FRISCO interview just a month after Paris, where Louis declared "some people genuinely think.. they GeNuiNeLy think that we're together!" and Liam says "You are, though, aren't ya!" and Harry just nods, all dazed and still wearing his cock-appointment-blush and then Zayn moves the topic towards him and Harry and curiously, nobody ever says "so it's not true!". and then the air kisses and sign language love declarations and their at least 6 obviously matching tattoos (that we know of, standpoint Feb 2025). the absolutely besotted way they looked at each other from day one. the way they verbally supported each other; defended each other and got obviously jealous over someone else touching either of them. and the rings Harry was gifted by Louis that he's still wearing almost 12 years later... like--
all of this still happened despite them never again being interviewed just the two of them or even getting a fucking segment just the two of them during things like 1D Day! which is so telling.
and all of this compared to how they behaved with each other during those Paris interviews -the ones that were -to Modest! obviously too much? let's be SO fr.. in my personal opinion, those interviews are very tame compared to everything else. they're rather sweet and polite and they didn't even touch each other nearly as much as they did in group interviews, because obviously that is safer, because you've got a lot more distraction for the eye with five guys instead of two. In one of the 3 interviews, Louis is even pretty quiet and calm; just seems very peaceful (or thoughtful). (which is just my personal interpretation, there could be lots of reasons for it)
And they were the same age in Paris as they were for a lot of the things they let slip in other group interviews then. sometimes when they didn't know it was being picked up by a mic or camera, but oftentimes they knew and still couldn't / didn't want to stop themselves :')
I could write a lot more about the hypocrisy of it all or how devastating it still feels and how angry it still makes me -almost 15 years later-, how swiftly and deeply they were shoved into the closet, when every other very private detail of their personal lives was being dragged into the public, twisted and turned and "marketed" to death. (and the latter was obviously fucking damaging to all of them) I shudder to imagine how much homophobia they were exposed to by the people who were supposed to nurture and guide them when their families and friends couldn't be with them. Obviously, the fact that they -so early on- were tried to be kept separated like that portrays just how desperate Clowndest! tried to do "damage control". And of course they failed, but not for lack of squeezing these two into such a sinister iron closet for so many years; piling up contracted lies upon contracted lies that added to all the pressure of two young people who were giving their love a try.. the more lies they piled up, the harder would it be for them later on.
and now look where we are now. they persisted, but at what cost?
Louis & Harry Paris Interviews
How many interviews are there of just Louis and Harry? I’m talking video interviews of L + H, sans Niall, Liam or Zayn to babysit them. There seem to only be a grand total of 2. And both took place on the same day. (February 14, 2012…Was it really on Valentine’s Day??) The Teemix interview below is broken up into 4 parts, but it’s all one interview.
This post actually took me longer than you might think because I tried so hard to find other video interviews of H + L. There aren’t any. Shocking, right?
L’Interview Paris - Fan2Fr
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Highlights include:
At 4:30 Louis reading Harry’s Hot and Dangerous on the fan-art: “Of course he’s hot”
4:51 Harry says of Louis, “I would describe it more as funny and handsome and rugged…A bit more manly” and Louis gives the brightest most amused smile to the camera.
The looks they give each other at the end of the video with the whole ‘dangerous dave(?)’ thing. Many people hear Harry say ‘I’ll get you for that tonight’ in response. I suck at deciphering these things, but it would make sense given Louis’ laughing reaction to it.
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Louis’ face at 3:24 when waiting for Harry to describe Niall’s characteristics.
Louis softly pushing Harry’s hair back at 3:40 when describing him as ‘curly.’ He just..keeps..going..oh my god it’s adorable.
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The way they finish each others’ sentences, talking about being normal lads. They seem so in sync and sound so relaxed about it.
At 0:38 – L: We still pop down to the shop every now and again– H: Bread and milk. L: Yep, the standard.
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At 0:20 when describing their ideal girl, Harry corrects Louis’ ‘good sense of humour’ comment with ‘GREAT sense of humour’ and Louis nods ‘yeah’ with the most earnest, serious agreement I’ve ever seen from a person in a boyband answering a generic question. They’re clearly describing each other.
This entire segment is a ridiculous display of how calm and in sync these two are. Telling the story of Liam’s chat up lines, agreeing on their favourite date spots (1:35), Louis proudly suggesting ‘cook them their favourite meal’ (2:12), they’re so at ease with each other and so willing to agree on every little thing.
At 2:42 Louis tries to figure out how long he’s been with Eleanor and Harry suggests ‘a year?’. Harry’s just straight-up laughing at this point and again, clearly talking about him and Louis.
‘I would definitely say Harry is the most confident with girls’ and then he GRINS.
The way they’re smiling at each other at the end is too much. Louis tells Harry, ‘you’re on a whole new level of charm, man’ and can’t stop grinning.
Here’s a slow-mo gif of Louis’ cute head roll, when faced with having to choose his favourite love song.
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They cut off Louis at 1:52 here and it makes me realise I can’t even imagine what the unedited version of these L + H interviews is like…
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#just wanted to reblog this cute as hell post and marinate in my thoughts about it and then i got upset.. whew#i wish them freedom i wish they wouldn't have had to go through all this shit man#to quote Harry's diary cover: “...LET US LOVE”#paris 2012#in this house we HATE MODEST#in this house we HATE SYCO#larry#video#interview#2012#Paz rambles#Youtube#mine#(well my thoughts and link collection only)#receipts
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how are they going to wrap everything up in the next 10 episodes. i can think of at least 5 unanswered plot points off the top of my head wdym they're going to wrap it all up in one more season
#they just came back how are they already leaving#i cannot do this rn#c rambles about jwcc#jwct#apenas estoy procesando que el final de good omens van a ser 90 minutos y luego me salen con esto????#csm esto me supera DEJENME UNA COSA EN PAZ AL MENOS
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new Paz AU idea: you are the weather fairy of a local TV channel and Paz is the cameraman 🥺 imagine the little banter in the studio over your colourful outfits or his wink when he catches you looking at his tattooed arms, carrying all that gear around.
being sent "out into the world" to do little weather segments around town and him encouraging you from behind the camera, imagining - as he looks through the lense - that your smile is just for him 🥺🥺
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Please, tell us (me) more about your pinecest x paz thoughts / timeline. Are pinecest together before they realize they’re into Pacifica? Does one of the twins date Paz and accidentally groan the other twin name instead of her’s during intimacy? Do one of the twins become selfless and try to push the other twin to date Paz — because they know deep down they’re hopelessly in love with both their twin and Paz?
rubs my hands together like a fly

SO.... honestly in my head i think for them, pacifica crushes on the twins for a loooong time. on both of them. she goes through phases thinking she's straight, then a lesbian, then realizing wow i like them both at the same time. then she hates herself for being "weird" about it. i like to think she's straight up bi but has internalized homophobia cause of her parents
i like to think the twins are weirdly codependent and in love in that way, and while they teeeechnically know its not "healthy" they could Not Care Less, because theyre happy being themselves with eachother (and have bad influences COUGH THE STANS). their relationship is ambiguously Undefined they just know they do everything together. including being romantic
pacifica over the years becomes a staple at the mystery shack. maybe she even takes wendy's place as cashier when wendy eventually goes to college. she goes from being overly formal with everyone (mr. pines, mr. pines 2, mr. ramirez, etc) to being semi casual (mr. stan, mr. ford, mr. soos,) to just being straight up casual. hell she's let a couple "grunkle stans" slip out. she's just another part of the group that hang around the shack and she gets super close to dipper and mabel which doesnt help her crushes
i like to think that at some point pacifica breaks and admits she likes them. maybe she phrases it "i like you!!! and more than just a friend!!" to both dipper and mabel who stare at her and then are like "did. did you mean that for me or for -" and pacifica is like "i meant both of you!!!" . she'd probably run off in embarrassment after that too leaving mabel and dipper to talk about what to do now and how they both feel about pacifica
i love the angst potential of one of the twins trying to be Selfless and stay away so the other can be with pacifica, but in my head theyd only get into dating around 17 and at that point the twins already know theyre weird with eachother and are totally chill with it
honestly IDK how pacifica would react to learning that dipper and mabel are romantical together and that they also both like her back. apart of me thinks she'd be grossed out but come around or she'd just be like "oh well im an only child so i dont really get it. must be different for twins i guess!" and she doubles down on that viewpoint after realizing the stans are the same LMFAOAOAOOA. the idea that the pines family tree is just a circle is really funny to me and pacifica gets roped into it (gladly) LOLOL
#pinescest + paz#HEHEHEHEHEHE thank you for giving me the excuse to ramble .... teehee.... hehehehee...
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Hear me out
I see your wearing Paz’s jersey and that makes him want to fuck you and raise you (inspired by the recent ask)
Paz fucking you while you’re wearing only his jersey
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💛 anon, babe, please let me apologize for leaving your asks in my inbox for so fucking long 😭 I have missed your delicious thots about CAR!Paz, and I am more than happy to add to my collection of rambles for him 🤤
anyways
it takes you some time to make the connection between the jersey and the fucking. honestly, not your fault, paz is fucking feral regardless of if you're wearing his clothes or not.
but eventually you realize the look in his eyes when you're wearing his jersey is just slightly different than his usual hungry stare.
you run a little experiment, and quickly make the connection. it becomes one of your most favorite ways to tease him to say nothing of the way it makes you feel to wear his name again, emblazoned across your back like a very public claim, the kind of claim that you wouldn't get to have otherwise.
but probably the most memorable time was the one where you hadn't even thought about it, you'd simply been way behind on laundry.
damn near every article of clothing you owned was in the washer or dryer, including most of your socks, panties, and bras. you didn't have anywhere to be that day, so you just slipped on the first shirt you'd grabbed out of Paz's closet, only realizing after you'd put it on it was his spare jersey.
it brought a stupid little smile to your face, and you happily went about your day, doing chores here and there that neither of you had had any free time to complete. little things, like putting away old holiday decor, organizing the stacks of bills and mail on the counter, finally taking a magic eraser to the stupid stain on the wall that both of you swore you had no idea how it got there.
you were up on your tiptoes, arm raised above your head as you scrubbed at the last of that stubborn little stain, when large hands suddenly bracketed your waist and whirled you around.
pulse pounding from the surprise, you looked up at paz, only slightly annoyed that he'd interrupted you right before you managed to finish the last chore, when you caught the look on his face.
eyes darker than the blackest night, pupils swallowing any color that might've been left in his irises, chest heaving like he'd been running a karking marathon before coming home, tendons in his neck standing out due to the stiff way he held himself.
before you had any time to ask him how his day had been, or what he'd been up to, or why he looked like he was five seconds away from losing his godsdamned mind, he abruptly fell to his knees.
you had no warning, he just hooked one of your legs over his shoulder and buried his face in your pussy.
immediately, your head fell back, thunking against the wall as your hands found his hair, hips already twisting and grinding to try and get closer to his divine mouth.
he ate you out like a man starved, absolutely zero shame as he let your juices coat his face and jaw. he moaned low in his throat as he devoured you, the vibrations sendings sparks through your core and making your fists tighten in his hair.
he didn't stop until you'd come at least twice, although it did blur together a little bit, the pleasure was so intense, so it might've been more than that, you weren't exactly sure.
only when your legs were almost collapsing underneath you did he finally stand, roughly shoving the waistband of his sweats down to bare his cock, hard and weeping.
paz hooks your leg over the crook of his elbow, spreading you open obscenely.
paz watches as he sinks into your cunt, inch by fucking inch, the small, shallow thrusts driving you absolutely insane as he slides into you all the way to the hilt.
your hands are clutching at his broad shoulders, mouth open and gasping for air as he begins to fuck you roughly, right there in the hallway of your apartment.
he's practically feral, sucking marks into your neck and pressing you harder against the wall.
paz is the only thing keeping you upright at this point, you're so fucked out and dazed it's all you can do to hold on and not pass out from sheer pleasure rushing through your body.
it doesn't take long before you're coming again with a scream, and paz follows shortly behind you with a low groan of his own, teeth sinking into the tendons of your neck, leaving a bruise that will be hard to cover up.
he slowly pulls out, helping steady you as he places your leg back on the floor. you're panting, sweaty and likely look like a mess, but paz is looking at you like you're the most beautiful girl he's ever seen.
it's overwhelming.
you can feel his spend starting to leak out of you, and you look up at him with a smirk.
"you made the mess, you clean it up."
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Omg I’m so sorry for spamming Mouthwashing stuff 😭 I know y’all originally followed me for Paz 😔
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Empecé a jugar al Skyrim ayer y creo que lo que más hice hasta ahora fue leer libros
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i was only gonna put this in the tags, but it'd be too long, honestly. i love Kate and always loved working with her and this video is another reason added as to why. what she said is all so true and so fucked up - and starting 2007 and onwards (when Foundations was released), she even was a (what i'd call) concretely mid-sized artist who released music that was VERY in-trend at that time (2008-2015's love for indie pop and indie rock; which was also my main breadwinner genre during that time). she had quite substantial support tours and festival slots, as well (at least in the UK and most of Europe) and the fact that she's still obviously struggled and is still struggling is WILD and disheartening (and sadly, harsh reality).
this is obviously a very broad discussion with the many different sizes of artists and tours and depending on how much or little financial budget is made available through a label/tour agency/artist themselves/etc., but like Gina said: "No wonder so many artists cancel tours" and this is very true!
getting a tour off the ground, in my personal work experience of the past 15+ years, has always been tough, but it's getting harder and harder and fucking harder.
listen, i'm Live Nation's biggest hater for a reason. already loathed their 'work practices' since 2010 (with which i am very familiar with, obviously). won't go into detail here, but it's not gotten better in the slightest. LN claims to not be a monopoly, but just as with their daughter company Ticketmaster, they've been encroaching on the live tour industry for decades with no sign of stopping. and yeah, that company is one of the final bosses in a bigger picture; but there's also shit like the aforementioned ticketmaster and associated smaller companies using their status and influence to scoop up venue after venue and tour agency after tour agency ("no compliance? no shows/artists for you and we have the biggest ones! go ahead and starve then!") for exclusive ticketing/artist contracts, which always include a new magical fee on top of another one. it has become outrageous! and can you guess how much of that is funnelled to the artist? correct. NONE of it.
i had artists insist on a certain low-as-possible ticket price (which is fair and noble) and with ticketing fees, it was suddenly double! and especially if you're not a big enough artist or agency, it's impossible to refuse. i've torn out so much hair over this, is2g..
not to mention the shift from tour agencies hiring local promoters to do the shows to the agencies skipping that step entirely to do the shows themselves and ~streamline the process (see also: save money), leaving local promoters all over the world in the dust. and can you imagine what happens when a not-local agency (meaning: a Finland-based agency booking a show in Argentina or a US-based agency booking something in Czech Republic) tries to promote shows to areas and with venues they are not at all familiar with and they also sure as hell don't budget in location-specific + demography-specific promo for the concert? -- exactly. low as hell ticket sales! - which either the marketing/PR firm or the artist themselves will take the blame for. similar to management, labels and/or tour agencies demanding the artist "go with the times" and do "more legwork" to "promote themselves" (through social media, of course) and refusing to give big enough budgets for tour promo and then tour promoters having to choose between two half-empty cups of Nothing. or when, say, an act like Kate Nash is already well-known in the UK and scheduled to tour the entirety of Europe, but since management wants the good promo & press for a "sold out tour in the UK!", most of the budget goes towards the UK and almost nothing's left for the rest of Europe and you don't even break even on those shows and the tour agency is all pikachu-face in your e-mails.
i can't possibly count the times where i had to ask bands and/or mgmt the gruelling question if they'd possibly rather cancel dates or entire tours - or when I even had to recommend it honestly - or the times i was asked that question and had to discuss it with my artists. can you imagine what that does to the mind of an artist?? a cancelled tour because of low sales or a tour that runs into red numbers is like a stain on your resumé and future partners will potentially not even invest in another tour with you; give you a harder deal or ask the artist for a financial security clause. and like i said, this is still all in the realm of artists in Kate's size range. for smaller artists, it's ten times harder.
so i will leave this saying -- if available, please buy tickets through independent (but obviously legitimate! please never use scam sites like viagogo!) local ticket shops; if you can't go in person, they usually have web shops, too. and for the love of 1D, please buy merch at shows!! (or if you can't go in person, buy it in their official merch stores, if you don't buy secondhand). Merch remains the only source of income that goes to the artist as direct as still possible nowadays! (depending on the artist size, the artist or tour promoter/agency has to pay a merch fee or even sells through a hired merch service, but oftentimes even those few people are part of the travelling tour fam who manage the distribution at venues) -- from personal experience, the merch sales were so, so many times what saved the tour from not meeting break even or was the only true profit made. merch sale numbers get completely counted into the end count of potential financial success of a tour.
but i know the people to really address about this aren't the fans. it's the money-greedy people in their capitalist conglomerates who have the real power here; who sit on their millions and reap their annual dividends and couldn't give less of a fuck about the artists, art or music, than how much money they're/it's making them.
Kate Nash on the financial reality of being a touring artist.
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#and when you think about the scale of Harry’s shows#he’s got about 80 people he travels with from show to show#that’s food/lodging/travel expense for 80+ people#then add in everything else#it’s insane#< prev tags THIS#plus the size of his backline that needs to be moved with all kinds of different modes of transport#in Europe you usually do it by truck but on continents like Oz? no way#touring industry#kate nash#music industry#video#radio interview#BBC#my work#paz rambles#tour life#merch#2025
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big sappy hours thinking about Harry and Louis writing songs together.
humming and trying out melodies, swapping lyrics and adding on to them, thinking quietly or out loud, ad-libbing a gibberish chorus on a phone or private home studio recording, harmonizing passages together and smiling at each other when it sounds just right, complimenting each other's ideas and lifting the other up when one isn't sure about a certain part; honest, good communication with feedback, but also the occasional sass that might end in a "sorry"-smooch, Harry on a keyboard and Lou with a guitar on his lap (incl. his improvised capo hehe) and vice versa, memorising nonsensical filler-lyrics like “corn chip banana flakes, Paris Rome coffee breaks” or something, then repeating them so many times that they start singing the words under their breath while doing laundry or showering -- knowing they’re just doing it for themselves and likely none of the material will see the light of day until very much later (or never), but one of them might make parts of it their own for a next album.
just low-pressure creativity infused with the gentle love and support they have for each other.
i believe them seeing each other as artists (respective or united) is a pillar. a connection point, a comfort, a home — something they’ve shared since day one.
#larry stylinson#i’ve been thinking about this so many times#dreaming about a future where they release a song together or one of them has a feature on the other’s album :’))))#i have faith in the future#comfort thoughts#I love their love#🥹#larry#mine#paz rambles#2024
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Look I know I've probably been insane the past few days with the Fiddleford and Pacifica stuff but like-
Stanley and Mabel. Ford and Dipper. Fiddleford and Pacifica.
Do you see what I'm putting down??? Why they're rotting my silly little brain your honor???
#oli talks#ooc#muns ramblings#mindless ramblings of a madman#gravity falls#gf#gravity falls stanley#gravity falls stanford#gravity falls fiddleford#gravity falls mabel#gravity falls dipper#gravity falls pacifica#gf stanford#gf stanley#gf fiddleford#gf mabel#gf dipper#gf pacifica#stanley pines#stanford pines#fiddleford mcgucket#dipper pines#mabel pines#pacifica northwest#mystery trio#mystery trio 2.0#that and they make me ill I'm so sorry dhsgdgdgdgdgf#i just i love them sm thinking about them and their possible dynamic makes me feral#I'm obsessed with the possibilities of this relationship like if Stan and Ford can have their nibbings then Fidds should have Paz
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Punching the air rn sobbing into the pillow rn
THEIR FRIENDSHIP
paz and kaz would've been too powerful if PW didn't happen 😔
mutually pining 😭
#avis ramblings#falling to my knees#i need more paz and kaz content#happily ever after au PW doesnt happen and they talk it out#kazuhira miller#paz ortega andrade#kaz and paz#mgs pw#metal gear solid peace walker#mgs#doomed by the narrative#😔
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