#patroclus' death

[sophiejanefostersilver]

They say a true love's kiss can fix everything

So why Achilles keep kissing Patroclus' lips and his eyes are still close?

[wolfythewitch]

My thoughts on the champion!Patroclus au are so disorganized I have not slept, but know that the main reason for its existence is that fictional men are infinitely more attractive when sweaty and covered in blood

[brainrotcharacters]

The thing that gets me giddy is the fact that Logan goes from "Do I know you, bub?" to "WADE! You don't have to do this!"

[greekmythcomix]

DEATH in the ILIAD: an Infographic

(originally 2014, updated slightly for 2023 - hey it's almost as old as Homer's Trojan War was long!)

[hearmyheadcanon]

how the Trojan War really went

Achilles: My boyfriend just died!

Odysseus: oh thats so sad. Diomedes, lead the charge.

[jules-ln]

ngl I'm a bit obsessed with the idea of Achilles's divine counterpart being the protector of youth. Because Achilles himself is a young man and will remain forever a young man, trapped by death in that state of his life without ever growing old

So, in a way, he represents young men in war

Then I think about Patroclus and how he was basically Achilles's death, he basically was the reason Achilles died along with war

That's why I think if Achilles is Apollo and Hector is Athena, then Patroclus should be Ares

He's the glory of the father, the kind of glory that you can only get by dying in war and being immortalized in songs, He's the thing that kills young men like Achilles, the thing youth like Achilles will kill and die for without thinking

[gingermintpepper]

One of my biggest pet peeves is the assumption that something has to be sad for it to be tragic.

I've always been a big believer of the 'Apollo has an awful love life'/'Apollo is plain unlucky with love' line of thinking but it does bother me that the general reasoning for that statement is given to the concept of 'Apollo is somehow undesireable and thus rejected' (Cassandra/Daphne/Marpessa) or 'his lovers die young and thus their love is unfulfilled' (Cyparissus/Hyacinthus/Coronis). I personally think that's a very unfortunate way of looking at things - not only because it neglects the many perfectly cordial entanglements and affairs Apollo has had, both mortal and divine - but because it presents a very shallow interpretation of the concepts of love and loss and how loss affects people.

Apollo can still grieve lovers that have a long, healthy life. The inherent tragedy of an immortal who knows his lovers and children will die and cannot stop it does not stop being tragic simply because those lovers and children live long, fulfilled lives. The inherent tragedy of loss does not stop being tragic simply because someone knows better than to mourn something that was always going to end.

What is tragic is not that Apollo loves and loses but that loss itself follows him. Apollo does not love with the distance of an immortal, he does not have affairs and then leaves never to listen to their prayers again. He does not have offspring and then abandon them to their trials only to appear when it is time to lead them to their destinies. He raises his young, he protects the mothers of his children, he blesses the households that have his favour and multiplies their flocks that they may never go hungry. He educates his sons, he adorns his daughters and even in wrath he is quick to come to his senses and regret the punishments he doles out.

Apollo loves. And like mortals, there will always be some part of him that wishes to protect the objects of his affections. Apollo, however, is also an emissary of Fate. He knows that the fate of all mortal things is death. He knows that to love a mortal is to accept that eventually he will have to bury them. There is no illusion of forever, there is no fantasy where he fights against the nature of living things and shields his beloveds from death. Apollo loves and because of that love, he also accepts.

And that, while beautiful, is also tragic.

[katerinaaqu]

Random sad question: What do you think potentially happened to the 7 remaining dogs of Patroclus? (Achilles sacrificed two out of his 9 dogs to his funeral pyre)

He raises them as his own crying every time he remembers Patroclus

He releases them free because he cannot stand at all having them around because they depress him as he no longer has Patroclus to take care of them.

The dogs fall into depression after the death of their master and spend several days howling in mourning before eventually dying after refusing to eat and drink.

Let me hear your thoughts

[voidcatofbedlam]

Finally read the epic of Gilgamesh. The relationship between Gilgamesh and Enkidu was compared to that of Achilles and Patroclus in the introduction.

Ah yes a great friendship indeed

Yes I know technically they came first but it’s so patrochilles coded my heart can’t handle them.

One followed the other and left first, two parts of a whole yet fated to be separated, violent grief and questionable decisions…

And historians say they are ✨best friends✨

[ismaeldrawsthings]

The worst thing about having Achilles starring in The Iliad is that the scholars that study it often forget that he is gay. "Why did Achilles gets full with an horrendous rage when Patroclus died?" Because he's gay. "Why did Achilles decides to kill Hector even though he knew he would die if he did?" Because he's gay. "Why did Achilles cut his hair even though it would shorten the possibilities of going back to his homeland?" Because he's gay. We had this conversation already. Achilles is gay

[sophiejanefostersilver]

OK, but what if Achilles took Pat's armor and came with him? Like, the Trojans would still think Pat is Achilles, and Achilles could look at Pat and see if anyone tried to kill him.

[angevinyaoiz]

Achilles x Troilus original flavor (overthinking and thinking about visual inspirations below the cut)

never know wtf these ppl should be wearing bc of the mix of eras in artistic depiction but inspired by the meme both what i thinknis the most common vase image i keep seeing

Plus the extremely phallic Sword Pointing combined with Rooster

Troilus in my mind is very indistinct shota-aged bc of the ambiguity but the meme requires a Specific Number Age for the “punchline” so I just went with that. Also bc the emphasis of the horror of the event is often on youth + the scandalousness of death of unarmed very noncombatant little boy (inpubes) so u know, exaggeration for tragedy, as seen in the top illustration which really emphasizes his tinyness.

In this comic he meets his famous fate….but what if…he didnt…read These doodles for more of his unfortunate adventures

[whitevesper]

patroclus: would you still love me after death?

achilles: you think that death can take you out of our relationship?

patroclus:

achilles: ding dong you are wrong

[habken]

have you ver read the song of achilles? because all I can think of is bkdk as Achilles and Patroclus and I’m actually chewing on my hand thinking about it

I haven’t yet, but I did read the iliad and took a class on troy/homer’s work and … yeah literally how I feel about bkdk is the same way I feel about patrochilles lmao 😭 it’s so corny but the idea of them being more than family more than lovers, something bigger that can’t be easily defined is So Good. The way they’d die for each other, the way they’re basically dead without each other. There’s something beautiful in that.

[yumaisbored]

Gojo fundamentally trusts Geto. not in the sense of thinking that Geto will be transparent abt his strategic plans etc. (obviously they're still on opposing sides 'n all that), but in a deeper sense. Gojo trusts Geto’s soul—he trusts Geto to be fundamentally the same person he’s always known. that’s the trust Gojo has in Geto. that’s why Gojo’s soul will always be able to recognise Geto’s. that's why Gojo still trusts Geto after he turns against jujutsu society and becomes a murderer, he trusts him after not having seen him (supposedly but we all know) for ten years, he trusts him even in death.

when confronted with Kenjaku possessing Geto’s dead body, right before being sealed, Gojo addresses Geto directly:

despite Geto having died, and despite his dead body being possessed by an extremely strong cursed spirit, there is no uncertainty in Gojo’s expression or voice. despite everything that would indicate otherwise, Gojo speaks as though he is certain his words will be able to reach Geto:

he trusts that something of Geto remains in his dead body, trusts that he will not allow himself to be used like this, trusts him to fight back. so when Geto’s body starts to choke itself in an act of opposition against Kenjaku, Gojo does not react with surprise—

Gojo trusts Geto. he trusts the same soul and body that always protected him. he trusts his best friend, his one and only.

and what makes this whole encounter even more upsetting is that it's presented (imo, of course) as Gojo acting with genuine intent—he wasn’t trying to save himself from being sealed, he seems pretty convinced it's already too late. instead, he’s saying it to try to help Geto save himself from being used like this, from being reduced to a weapon (iykyk).

[deadbaguette]

The REAL mvps of Hades are Patroclus, Eurydice, Thanatos and Sisyphus!! God knows how many of my runs they have saved

“Aw man I can’t find any poms”… BOOM EURYDICE

“I need to find more coin so I can buy from the shop”… BOOM SISYPHUS

“Aw shit I’m low on max HP but I can’t afford to not take this room…” BOOM THANATOS

“No death defies left…” BOOM PATROCLUS