#page of mind

[starlit1daydream]

Knights & Pages: Deficiency and Exploitation

Well, then... here we are.

A day in delay, I'm aware; but I'm afraid I can't always be accounting for extraneous real-life factors. My apologies.

The Knight:Page class dichotomy embodies deficiency, exploitation and arguably compensation as well. They imbue their Aspect into their fighting prowess, utilise it both as a weapon and a tool, and often use it to constitute a shield as well. (Literally and metaphorically).

The presence of either (or both) of these classes also functions as a signal; as by their very nature, they exist to compensate for a deficiency in their Aspect within their session proper.

Canonical Knight players are Dave Strider (Knight of Time), Karkat Vantas (Knight of Blood) and Latula Pyrope (Knight of Mind).

Canonical Page players are Jake English (Page of Hope), Tavros Nitram (Page of Breath) and Horuss Zahhak (Page of Void).

So, Point A. The narrative function of the Knight.

Narratively speaking, the Knight is one who defends their Aspect; and uses it as a defense in turn. They are defined by maintaining a rigid facade, born of their Aspect and used to hide a perceived deficiency in it. Their Aspect is their sword and their shield, and this oft manifests as a deep-seated insecurity.

Dave's insecurity is with his masculinity, mortality and conception of 'heroism'. Karkat's insecurity is with the colour of his blood, his fear of ostracisation and social exile. Latula's insecurity is less clear-cut, but the most prevalent theory is that the injury that rendered her anosmic also left her with brain damage.

Thus, we see here that their fear comes from lacking in their Aspect. Dave lacks confidence in his ability to face closure & his projections of masculinity (something he misconstrues with heroism). Dave doesn't want a great destiny; he wants to be a normal guy who lives a normal life and dies a normal death. He's essentially a tutorial NPC thrust into plot bullshit after plot bullshit.

Karkat lacks confidence in his sense of self caused by his mutant blood and his persistent fear of social ostracisation and subsequent death should his status be exposed. One could also argue it is a disillusionment with the Alternian social order that he does not fit into by design, but feels he must follow anyways (hence his ass-kissing dreams of threschecutioner greatness).

(Here's where the conjecture comes in...)

Latula lacks confidence in her capacity for rational thought and ability to use logic for her own (and others') defense. If we're going with the TBI narrative for her, she feels as if she lacks intelligence as a result. Tying into Latula's commentary on the misogyny in online gaming circles and we get a girl who is deeply, deeply terrified of rising above her station and displaying an intellect.

So, Dave pretends to be a self-assured, chauvinistic 'cool kid'.

Karkat pretends to be a bossy, self-righteous 'perfect leader'.

Latula pretends to be an air-headed, radical 'gamer chick'.

All of them deny themselves depth and identity for the explicit purpose of denying people the right to know them on a deeper level.

Let's simplify this - Knights feel they lack their Aspect and compensate for it. End of.

Here's where the dramatic irony comes in; Knights are the only people in their session who are proficient with their Aspect at all. Dave is the only Beta Kid concerned with Time management, Karkat is the only Beta Troll concerned with maintaining social order and collaboration, Latula is the only Alpha Troll concerned with logical thought and logical argument.

Because the Beta Kids lack Time on their side, the Beta Trolls lack Blood to bind them together, and the Alpha Trolls lack Mind to... well, to be totally blunt, to use their fucking brains.

(The Beta Kids' lack of Time being tied moreso to the nature of their Game as opposed to the nature of themselves is absolutely a matter of Lunar Sway, by the way).

That's what they need to learn, and subsequently use their Aspect to defend. Dave defending his co-players from certain death and entropy, Karkat defending his co-players from turning on eachother and descending into conflict, Latula defending Mituna from disbelief and abuse through logical counterargument.

Here, we're dovetailing directly into Point B - practical function.

We're all caught up in flowery metaphors and abstract conceptions, but how does this translate to a literal function within SBURB?

Simple. The Knight imbues, exploits and weaponises their Aspect. They don't generate it or control it in any way - that's the caveat of their function. Knights must exploit an already existing well of their Aspect and use that minimal supply to the best of their abilities.

It's the literal manifestation of their abilities for compensation! They have to merely 'make do' with what's available. After all - if there was an influx of their Aspect to work with, there wouldn't be a deficiency to combat.

This journey ties into their narrative function as learning to use it and defend through it also comes with dropping the mask and putting down your sword every once in a while. We don't ever get to see this fully with Latula, unfortunately, but we see Dave and Karkat (through means of eachother, actually) learn to relax in eachothers' presence and drop some of their unhealthy preconceptions.

Now, let's go on to the Pages!

Point C - narrative function.

Pages function in much the same way as Knights on a base level - existing to cover for an existing deficit in their session by virtue of compensation. The difference, obviously, comes in their passivity - and their different manifestation of their Aspect which more directly feels to be a shield as opposed to a sword.

Pages turn the Knights' overcompensation on its' head. Like Knights, they too believe their lack their Aspect, and thus project an image of possessing an influx of it. The difference is that Pages... actually do have that deficiency.

Jake lacks Hope. He lacks faith in himself, lacks the belief in his own capacity to bring a better future and finds it difficult to hold onto his convictions when the going gets tough.

Tavros lacks Breath. He lacks a direction or an objective to follow, lacks freedom by virtue of his disability and Vriska's control of his life. He prefers to avoid things and run away from problems.

Horuss lacks Void. He lacks the ability to cope with imperfection and the fact he doesn't know things. He can't deal with being absent or bereft of purpose.

And, likewise, their sessions lack their Aspect as well in equal measure!

The Alpha Kids lack Hope in the same manner - they don't have the motivation to keep going and find themselves falling into depression and passivity. Dirk even lampshades this!

The Beta Trolls lack Breath - none of them have freedom to choose their own destinies due to oppressive Alternian society and thus fall into the trappings of the roles laid out before them.

The Alpha Trolls lack Void - the teenage echo chamber of drama and gossip denies anybody the right to secrecy or privacy, and their presence in the dreambubbles forces them into proximity and furthers this absence.

Now, it's a common conception that this absence means a Page is weak by default, or outright useless. I absolutely abhor this notion. A Page is not the 'weakling' class - they merely rely upon guidance.

For Jake, it's his fantasies. His masks. His projections of heroism and adventure - and Brain Ghost Dirk is the literal manifestation.

For Tavros, it's his false confidence. It's his assurance that he can stand up for himself and fly to safety should the going get tough - and Rufio is the literal manifestation.

For Horuss, it's his 'renaissance man' projection. It's his showcase of absolute perfection and ideal highblooded taste - and his alters and therian identity are the literal manifestation. (However poorly executed it was, and oh boy was it poorly executed and oh boy was it ableist.)

For this, they're prone to subsequently use their Aspect as a defense mechanism in a more passive manner than the acerbic Knights who prefer to fight with it.

Jake hides behind his fantasies, Tavros runs away from everything he can't face and Horuss pretends he can't hear the sound of Rufioh breaking up with him.

And, of course, as everyone will tell you - this comes with a vast well of potential. Pages are not uniquely powerful or the 'strongest class' like some people would have you believe, but it is true that upon undergoing development, they become incredibly confident in that Aspect. It just happens to be a long journey that no Page fully completes on-screen.

It is learning to accept their own lack of proficiency with their Aspect, drop the mask and begin forging a more genuine relationship with it. Knights must learn to relax, Pages must learn to stop relaxing. It's almost like a little inversion of their active:passive roles, if you want to see it like that!

Point D. Practical function.

Pages... yeah, this is really fucking obvious. Look at Jake. Look at that thing he does. You know? The gigantic shield of pure Hope energy he generates when his full potential is tapped into.

That's what a Page does. They tap into the well of their Aspect to use it as a great shield, making their defense of themselves through their Aspect literal. And, yeah, that's pretty goddamn powerful!

It's like they're meant to embody the little 'sidekick' role in shonen. Koichi Hirose. Koichi Hirose is a Page.

So, there we have it. The classes of compensation. I'll be putting out individual analyses of all of these class combinations soon-ish once the main seven posts are out, so be looking forward to that! I'll be back with you soon wiht the second part of this: Mages and Seers.

And that should be fun, 'cause I am one.

Take care.

[prince-of-time-pt]

The thing with pages is not all of them are immature; relying on Guidance does not equal immaturity. This is probably common sense but I feel the need to say it.

[dappersfm]

Homestuck God Teir Trading Cards - public release batch 2: low blood trolls (+ Marlie)

wing designs (minus marlie) by @caligvlasaqvarivm

front - individual designs

back - individual designs

alt designs under the cut

front - catagory designs

back - catagory design

[vrdntii]

Some kid OCs I have in the backburner

Names L->R

Nate Hathway, Emma Ceylon, Evan Minnows, Tara Addams.

[yourfaveisclasspected]

CHIDI ANAGONYE is a PAGE of MIND!

Requested by anonymous!

[fraymotifsbeyond]

page of time and page of mind fraymotifs

Page/Time + Page/Mind Parallel Knowledge Container

Combining their power of giving to protect others, The two pages create an area of effect, ranging from a few meters to an entire Incipisphere.

Anyone within the sphere will be connected to a hivemind and will have innate knowledge of anything that is happening anywhere at the sphere at the present AND including a bit towards the future, which allows players be protected by dodge and evade dangerous hazards and attacks.

[giftofclasspects]

mind playlists are done! here are some of my favorites!

bard

knight

rogue

[homestuck-hell]

Jederf Renard, Page of Mind, Derse

He/him

Very particular about everything

Terrified of doing things wrong

Has a bit of a speech impediment due to his fangs

Land of Puzzles and Grades

[tavtiers]

A hypothetical god tier for Ronald Weasley from Harry Potter: the Page of Mind.

A Page of Mind is among those who use the individual’s impact. They are motivated by others to utilize intuition. (x) The Page of Mind struggles to see what they’re good at and enjoys challenges. (x) They are the Believer Genius, defined by confidence and intuition. (x) Their opposite is the Knight of Heart. Their inverse is the Thief of Heart. They share their personality with the Mage of Hope. The Page of Mind would quest on a planet similar to the Land of Earth and Mind, reigned over by Athena (Goddess of Justice) or the Sphinx (the legendary creature who posed riddles to travelers). They would rise to ascension on the wings of dragonflies. (x)(x)(x)

[sweet-cuddlebug]

My Homestuck OCs

I'm not sure if I'll ever actually finish them (they've been months without being edited or continued, they're just... there in one of my drawing apps) so I might as well just show them to you guys :o/

Again, godtier designs by @superxstarzz <3

[ultra-clashpects]

[ Part 2 of a request for @illusionsignmisdirection ]

THE PAGE-PRINCE OF MIND-TIME

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is someone who lacks or is devoid of their own aspects for the majority of their life, never having much or killing it off in one way or another, always having less of their own aspects than everyone else at any given point in time. The Page-Prince of Mind-Time struggles through life and trying to cope without any of their aspects, learning to grow through the struggle and come to terms with who they are and understand what they might be able to do in the future if they had the resources and the time to do so.

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is intelligent, although sometimes they might portray a different idea, and they’re constantly running on fumes because they never have enough Time to do anything that they want or need to do, so they are often tired and run thin because of everything they have to do constantly. The Page-Prince of Mind-Time can take their aspects from those around them, but they can never use them to their own advantage, so they just turn around and destroy whatever they can because if they can’t use their own aspects, then why should anybody else be able to?

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is part Page of Mind, which means that they are constantly putting up a facade on how smart they actually are, constantly trying to make people believe that they have power and that they’re not just what they seem, although this doesn't always work out in the way that the Page wants it to. They try their hardest to only use their Mind when making decisions and they try their best to remain stoic and unbothered by the things that happen in their life, but they often end up showing way more of their emotions and feelings than they would care to admit.

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is part Page of Time, which means that they are a bit frantic at times and they don’t like to wait around, they might have a bad memory or a bad sense of Time, and they are often impatient and never can sit still or wait their turn. They will have to slow down in life and learn the art of patience and that good things come to those who wait, and that once they learn to live life at a decent pace, will they then be able to grow and harness their true powers.

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is part Prince of Mind, which means that they are over-emotional and driven by their feelings rather than by cold, hard logic, and they are quite proficient destroying the logic within people’s brains and forcing them into their own emotions. They are wonderful at blending into crowds, never making themself known or drawing much attention to themself, but underneath the calm facade is someone who is burning with emotion and someone who refuses to back down and let someone else tell them what to do or walk all over them.

The Page-Prince of Mind-Time is part Prince of Time, which means that they are someone who is impatient and doesn’t like waiting around, they destroy their own Time and take up the time of other people, destroying it as they go, and they’re not exactly the kind to finish what they started and thus has a mountain of projects that they will never finish. They might eventually try to change their ways, respecting their Time rather than waste it, but this probably won’t happen as they get too much enjoyment and power out of destroying their aspect rather than respecting it and using it as they need to.

[xx-cringe-factory-xx]

hallooo would u be willing 2 do a classpect analysis 4 the moonlighter of soul? (thief of mind + page of heart)

YES! sorry i didn't answer this when you asked, as said in my intro post, i cant really post on here during the week but thank you sm for the ask <3! also love doing thieves (as a thief myself)

combined classpects by @superxstarzz

------------Moonlighter of Soul-----------

the moonlighter is someone who is served an aspect through stealing an aspect or steals an aspect through being served an aspect

woahg tavros and vriska classes and terezi and dirk apsects

so they have a clear idea of who they are and who they want to be, They're always scheming and coming up with some (prolly overcomplicated) plan that will absolutely go wrong in some way. They are always moving, trying to get ahead of everyone, but are likely to get stuck on certain details, which they just cant let go.

They'll try to focus on their feelings and bettering themselves, but almost always will end up putting logic and working around rules even if it works against their feelings. for obvious reasons, they are most likely constantly trying to show how confident they are and how well they can use it, but always overthink how others may perceive that confidence (idk if i phrased that in a way that makes sense)

powers!! cool stuff like the common weird overcomplicated form of mind control! Their powers are prolly just basic stuff most people have ngl like flying. but they deffinetly are great at using other people and their morals or feelings against them. (sorry there really isnt much for powers that i can think of, but i could add stuff later if i can think of some)

weapons >:3 medium weapons. stuff that you can take apart, and add stuff to, and personalize. but they absolutely know how to use a wider range of weapons.

[bakishovosh]

I'm not sure about this but I want be be first who will give them titles

[en8y]

[IMAGE ID: three horizontal flags with nine stripes; each flag has the mind aspect symbol in the center; a neon teal circle with three evenly-spaced wavy lines coming out of it. it is outlined in medium warm green. the middle stripe is twice as large as the rest of them, which are equally sized. the first flag has these top three colors: cool medium blue, light warm blue, and off-white. the second flag has these top three colors: medium deep blue, dark navy blue, and cool medium brown. the third flag has these top three colors: neon teal, medium cool blue, and warm deep purple. each flag has these bottom six stripes: medium warm green, off-white, medium warm green, dull warm green, medium teal, and neon teal. END ID.]

mindasimaid: a gender connected to being a maid of mind; this gender is connected to the mind aspect, mind aspect aesthetics, maid aesthetics, cleaning and organizing, femininity, and cleancore!

mindasipage: a gender connected to being a page of mind; this gender is connected to the mind aspect, mind aspect aesthetics, page aesthetics, training aesthetics, knighthood aesthetics, and knightcore!

mindasimage: a gender connected to being a mage of mind; this gender is connected to the mind aspect, mind aspect aesthetics, mage aesthetics, magic and magical aesthetics, and MAGiN genders!

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[zoethehead]

The hero will awaken soon.......

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