#thief of heart

[dwoodledip]

The group chat has Homestuck brainrot and I am not immune.

So did some quick God Tier designs for Ophelia and Dusty. Opehlia was assigned Bard of Void and Dusty was assigned Thief of Heart by a friend because I was too lazy to research it myself.

Had fun designing the God Tier fits and taking the canon outfits and interpreting in my way and my style.

[balkanparamo]

She Came In Through the Bathroom Window: Abbey Road

[starlit1daydream]

Thieves & Rogues: Inundation and Redistribution

A day late, I'm aware; turning 18 will do that to a girl. I'm now older, and definitely not wiser.

The Thieves & Rogues are another contentious group; particularly the Thieves for various discourse-generating reasons - but the Rogues have their pitfalls and fall victim to mischaracterisation a lot more than you'd assume.

The Thief:Rogue dichotomy embodies inundation, redistribution and possession. It's the authority over who gets to hold their Aspect for themselves; whether it's them or somebody else, that's what being a Redistribution Class is about.

There's often some insecurity about their capacity to hold it in play as well - and they tend to use a lot of their opposite Aspect's forces; after all, what do you get when you take something but the absence of it, and therefore its opposite?

Canonical Thief players are Vriska Serket (Thief of Light) and Meenah Peixes (Thief of Life).

Canonical Rogue players are Roxy Lalonde (Rogue of Void), Nepeta Leijon (Rogue of Heart), and my arch-nemesis Rufioh Nitram (Rogue of Breath).

Point A - the narrative function of the Thief.

The Thief is the one with active distribution of their Aspect; and therefore the one liable to actively steal it. This, on paper, sounds pretty nasty - there's a reason why Thieves are lumped in with the nebulously 'bad' classes; but it's a neutral role with possible applications in either sense.

They often hold a deep-seated obsession with their Aspect; they think it's something that's out to get them and conflate an excess of it with an absence. Their perceived lack of it motivates them to hoard it, as much as possible.

Vriska Serket, the Thief of Light, is contentious for a damn good reason. Imbued with ungodly plot armour and fortune's favour, she seizes control of the narrative by force, all the while bemoaning her unlucky streak & employing the most unsubtle methods of manipulation she can think to use.

Meenah Peixes, the Thief of Life... does not understand the consequences of her actions; period. She thinks Life is out to get her, exacts every bit of free will she has out of spite and cultivates discourse and stagnation to try and encourage character development. (Oh, yeah, she also... kills people. Like, a lot.)

Their opposite Aspects are, therefore, pretty prevalent! By taking away their Aspect; they leave the inverse behind.

Vriska stealing Light leaves Void. Meenah stealing Life leaves Doom.

Often, it's almost as if they're using their inverse to cultivate their actual Aspect; Vriska uses offscreen events to justify onscreen developments - it's how she 'takes luck'. Meenah uses suffering and control in order to encourage growth - it's how she 'takes life'.

They care very little for their Aspect at the centre of it all, despite their perceived obsession; they don't seem to understand the value of it at all. That's the interesting part, I feel.

Point B, the practical function of the Thief.

Now, taking the Aspect is a very powerful ability in the right hands. We don't just see Vriska metaphorically rob fortune, she literally steals luck from her enemies mid-fight and utilises chance and possibility in order to get the upper hand.

Meenah takes 'taking life' about as seriously as you can get - not only does she really like killing people, but as the Condesce everything she did resulted in stagnation and decay in her wake as she robbed the worlds she ruled of the ability to develop; using control and hegemony to cultivate development and failing miserably.

The opposing Aspect, again, plays a prominent role! Vriska forgoes certainty and manipulates the absence of a definitive outcome to play around with luck. Meenah forgoes development and enacts control on the people beneath her to play around with change.

Point C, the narrative function of the Rogue.

I'm gonna use the Thief's concluding point as the jumpoff point for the Rogues; whereas the Thief devalues their Aspect, the Rogue puts too much stock in its importance. Their Aspect is too important to them; and so their relationship with it differs.

Passive classes tend to act without realising it, and the Rogues are no different - I'd argue their presence often leads to their Aspect being taken in a way they don't realise they're doing.

Roxy Lalonde, Rogue of Void, is desperate for attention, and yet obfuscates knowledge, is isolated from all society and would rather get drunk at the start of her arc than face the truth of her situation. I'd argue that she downplays her own importance as a person in the face of her friends' catastrophic communication failures. By being around, she takes the Void from her session and opens up ways to communicate whilst learning to give irrelevance to things.

Nepeta Leijon, Rogue of Heart, puts people into boxes. She makes them into little cariacatures on her walls, plays matchmaker in her stories; and yet she's also one of the most emotionally mature and genuine trolls in the story - she wears her Heart on her sleeve, and doesn't deny it. By being around, she takes the Heart from her friends by way of drawing out truer selves, as we see in her relationship with the insecure & disingenuous Equius.

Rufioh Nitram, Rogue of Breath, takes people's sense of purpose and direction and makes their agency depend on his presence in their life. He does Damara and Horuss dirty time and time again, and yet they can't cut him off because he's made himself too important. And yet there he is, spineless, giving away his own free will because he holds no security in his selfhood. He's trapping people in relationships without realising. I also want to drop an anvil on his head.

The common thread, despite the differing situations, is the indirect usage of the opposing Aspect to passively take away the true Aspect and the character development involving a realisation of their Aspect's value and the importance of keeping it for oneself. Roxy is the only Rogue whose development we see in full, unfortunately; but there's snippets with Nepeta and Rufioh Nitram changing isn't happening any time soon.

Point D, then. The practical function of the Rogue.

Once again, Roxy is our only point of reference by virtue of being the only God-Tiered Rogue; but luckily, she also gives us some really good demonstrations. Roxy literally takes the nonexistence away from something, bringing it into existence.

Inversely, she's capable of giving Void to herself, cloaking herself and by extension her whole session in a veil of invisibility. She's controlling the distribution of Void, letting it both be taken and given; after making her peace with the distribution of it.

So, the common thread is the central question of 'who gets to have my Aspect?'

A Thief would tell you 'me', and a Rogue would tell you 'anyone else'. That's what I feel separates them, and yet don't let that convince you that Thieves are bad and Rogues are good; look at Rufioh. A Thief may take for altruistic reasons, and a Rogue may give away for... not so altruistic reasons!

Get creative with it, that's what I say. How about a Thief of Doom who takes on everyone else's suffering because they're self-sacrificial to a fault? ...Okay, actually, that's my idea, don't take that one.

Anyhow, next week I'll be concluding the 'normal' classes with the Maids and Sylphs! Should be fun, I'll see you then - hopefully on time, too.

[l4mbkin]

me and my idiot moirail who is definitely not my bestest friend in the whole entire world and I would die without her

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[luminous-homestuck-kins]

heart godtier playlists

feel free to recommend songs to add if youd like

for the heart aspect or any other aspect

maid of heart

page of heart

mage of heart

knight of heart

rogue of heart

sylph of heart

seer of heart

thief of heart

heir of heart

bard of heart

prince of heart

witch of heart

[classpecting-thoughts]

All heroes of Heart have some manner of splinters and/or masks. They all tend to have different ways that this shows up, though there is some overlap.

A Prince of Heart splinters outward, creating different versions of themselves on the outside. This tends to lead to different variations of themselves being everywhere, and can leave the Prince unsure of who their true self is, or if they even truly have one.

An Heir of Heart splinters inward. They gather different versions of themselves on the inside. Rather than being destructive and tearing down their sense of self that occurs with a Prince, this interior splintering helps build their personality, creating more of it. An Heir of Heart will compartmentalize every part of themselves, and gather labels they associate with themselves in an effort to be able to share/explain these compartmentalized parts of themselves with others.

A Thief of Heart does something similar to the Heir, splintering inward, but rather than being mostly internal, the different bits of their self that they gather come from others. A thief of heart will pick up quirks and habits from those they spend time with or respect at a much faster rate than most. They take these bits and pieces and craft their personality and sense of self out of them, making them their own in the process.

A Rogue of Heart splinters more similarly to the Prince. Rogues’ different splinters are external, but rather than the masks made up of their own personality shown to other people the Prince has, they are splinters they’ve gathered from others in a similar manner to a Thief. A Rogue will take bits and pieces from those around them and reflect them back, making them into both masks and mirrors.

Those are all the classes I currently have thoughts on, but I’d be happy to continue discussing it! Feel free to add your own thoughts if you’d like (even if it’s to say I’m wrong!).

[slimecatt]

the goobers are stuck at home

[brightestlulu]

me if i was awesome

[underyourwinghomeout]

These sprites are smaller than the ones I've done before, I hope they look better

And yes, I changed the aspect of someone

[starkeaton]

DDLC classpecting post

Monika: Seer of Light (knows info/relevance/importance for others)

I'm sure on Monika, she's the kind, passive, friendly advice giver, and her relevance/info/importance fixation is obvious. She definitely inverts to Witch of Void a little bit, but only because she's in a dire situation. When you sit down and talk to her, she's very focused on helping others with her knowledge

Sayori: Rogue of Life (takes growth/joy/health for others)

Sayori... I mean, all you have to do is read the bottle poem, and you will get it, i think. She chills in the background and gives her friends joy when they need it. However, as is common for Rogues, she also struggles with feeling like she's not needed. And like all Rogues, she is a treasure

Natsuki: Thief of Heart (takes emotion/identity/passion for self)

Natsuki being herself seems like some sort of radical action for her. She's definitely a rule-breaker type, and it's not immediately obvious just how beaten down by the world she really is. Thief is the class of "I need to get my needs met before anything else," and Natsuki seems willing to cross boundaries to get her needs met in some ways, with her hidden passions and such. She cares a lot about not judging people for their desires and interests, which i think is Heartful.

Yuri: Witch of Doom (changes cost/restriction/pain for self)

Yuri is so fixated on pain, which rings Doombound to me. Witches are troublemakers, and Yuri does enjoy doing things a bit differently with her poetry, showing others the beauty in darker things. She also changes herself for her own benefit, wearing something of a mask, which is a Witch thing, and um... well, her personality gets very exaggerated, but the idea of having someone to show her true self underneath that mask to is very romantic to her.

[vrdntii]

Some kid OCs I have in the backburner

Names L->R

Nate Hathway, Emma Ceylon, Evan Minnows, Tara Addams.

[giftofclasspects]

hello!!! i'm back! now, heart playlists below the cut!!!

maid of heart

page of heart

mage of heart

knight of heart

rogue of heart

sylph of heart

seer of heart

thief of heart

heir of heart

bard of heart

prince of heart

witch of heart

[our-fav-hs-char]

Which is the cooler classpect?

[gamingglitchgg]

the greater remorse but sharpie bath idk

[alchemized-strifespecibi]

I'm looking for some ideas for a Thief of Heart with Knifekind! Some options for alchemization are a Deltarune Poster, a real deer skull, the DSM-6* (*a homemade scrapbook catalouging all the interesting personalities and quirks of people they've met,) and a hand-painted teapot.

Knifekind && DSM-6: Ego-Stealer

A scrappy, patchwork knife held together with glue and ink. A skilled Thief of Heart can embed new info on it with the tiniest stab.

... || Deltarune poster: Papercut

A fairly wide knife, sporting some banging art of hit indie game Deltarune. Handle carefully - all four sides are blades!

... && Deer skull: Hunting Cutlery

A bone knife with an elaborate branched blade and a skull-shaped handle. Not the easiest to use, but certainly stunning.

... || Teapot: Kn-afternoon Tea

A beautiful handpainted teapot... That happens to be shaped like a knife. Brand new ways to play bad cop-good cop just opened up.

[fraymotifsbeyond]

Any fray motifs for either:

Prince of space, knight of rage and mage of doom

Or mage of hope, witch of life and thief of heart?

Prince/Space + Knight/Rage + Mage/Doom Mass-Spread Nil-Chrage

The Mage of Doom and Prince of Psace combine their power to spread knowledge of Death, Fate and nihalism across tears in space that the prince create. The resulting negative emtions are then being picked up by the knight of rage to supercharge his powers.

Mage/Hope + Witch/Life + Thief/Heart A god made from stolen hearts

The Mage of hope uses his knowledge of hope to guide the Thief of heart into stealing the most "hope-inducing" splinters from the targets, the leader, martyr on anyone that instill souls in others.

Then the Witch uses her "Grand ability" to use those splinters to create a new life form that becomes the center of hope in that session.