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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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i still am confused about something. if gamzee was being mind controlled to do his lord's bidding and shouldn't be blamed for it, didn't he willingly look into caliborn's eyes and continue to follow the church? i know the guy had a rough life, but he did kinda go against his friend's trust and betrayed them

I think you’re misunderstanding between forms of manipulations Gamzee was subjected to.

It’s not Aranea’s mindless stand-in robotic commandery in which his mind is completely shut off to reality.

It’s also not a temporary takeover where he has no knowledge or control over his actions.completely loses it due unleashing his withheld inner rage powers

This is a work of Lil Cal, someone who is main component of sweettalking Doc Scratch. Gamzee did not betray his friends because his friends are either dead

or they aren’t his friends because they can’t compare to the best friend Lil Cal is.

Wouldn’t you like to have such friends?

And by this logic - since they were never his friends to begin with, Lil Cal is the only friend Gamzee has ever had.

It’s a form of hypnotizing brainwashing, Gamzee is controlled by promises he wants to believe in because Gamzee is a believer of faith and a fool (religious objective and objective of a fool trope). It’s comparable to being sucked into a religious cult that promises you a better tomorrow/treatment/life because your current situation sucks, and you somehow end up murdering someone to summon satan and you can’t really tell when or how did it go wrong. When Gamzee has looked Caliborn in the eye (and he did that at least two times if not many more)

This is a definite stare off. John does the same thing with Caliborn.

he was already fully convinced about the rightousness of the matter. Caliborn is his messiah, he exists, he is facing him after he had raised him from an egg, ergo Lil Cal was right. What’s the worst (or maybe the best? Depends on how you look at it), even if Gamzee has his doubts, he is constantly in contact with things that reassure him that he is doing the right thing.

The bottom line is that Gamzee’s got lost and he needs help. He isn’t completely blameless like Jane or Jade - but his fault is still a big unknown. Neither Nepeta/Nepetasprite/Davepeta nor Equius/Arquiusprite voice their opinion on Gamzee killing them, Gamzee is not allowed to show remorse or lack of it because author doesn’t allow him to speak or even show his thoughts onscreen - at best we can see he is miserable

but we don’t know what is he thinking. Gamzee, being a fool, also is allowed to think like a fool - so he can show a complete naivety and misunderstanding of the situation where he thinks he is doing a good thing without any sort of malicious intent while he is doing the bad thing.

(also: see Whistles working as a male prostitute without understanding what is he doing, Whistles uncovering horror of the backstage of the Starlight Calliope and failing to understand it’s a bad thing because of his unshakeable faith in Pendlecoat’s so-far-nonexistent good nature).

Punishing a fool who is too naive to understand his wrongdoings is comparable to punishing a child like an adult. A child who has murdered someone (yes, it happens) because it didn’t know that their lack of logic or thoughtlessness will lead to sb’s death doesn’t end with a child in prison for the rest of its life but an intensive help.

Still, we’ve already seen Gamzee being punished physically all around by Terezi (stabbing with canes), Kanaya (kicking the bulge, terrorizing with the clown hunt enough to make him hide in vents, sewing in half), Vriska (slavery, bullying, and fridge torture) and Caliborn (shooting and beating up with a cane) and it didn’t do anything to change the course of action he has taken.

He literally vomits blood and still keeps serving his abuser.

The conclusion is clear: hate and punishment won’t save or change him. Lack of love, friendship and crisis of faith is what pushed him to do it in the first place, therefore the remedy is: love, friendship and regained belief in miracles.

WHAT A SHOCKER, I KNOW.

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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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The Jewish Coding of Teal Bloods

It started bad, and it only spiraled.

Disclaimer: I still like Homestuck! I don’t think Hussie did the following on purpose, however, he literally could not have done a worse job if he tried.

Sources: Me, I’m jewish. Homestuck. Homestuck Wiki. Wikipedia. @writingwithcolor

It all started with an innocuous springform answer:

To be clear, there is nothing wrong with the response, and I didn’t think much about it until Hiveswap came out, where the joke was brought up again on Stelsa’s, another teal blood’s, troll call card.

For some reason, Stelsa rubbed me the wrong way. As my friend pointed out, she is an accountant, and when I re-read the card it made me think of the teal bloods in general, and how Jewish Coded they are as a caste. The only two trolls to be referred to as troll jewish were both teal, and they are the class associated with being lawyers, a jewish stereotype. Once I saw that, and looked at the other teal bloods, it only went downhill.

We will start with:

Terezi Pyrope.

Terezi has three main Jewish Stereotypes that apply to her character.

The Jewish Lawyer.

I am simply going to quote from wikipedia. The concept of the “Jewish lawyer” is a stereotype of Jews, which portrays Jews and Jewish lawyers as being clever, greedy, exploitative, dishonest, and depicts them as engaging in moral turpitude and excessive legalism.Ted Merwin writes that in the United States the stereotype became popular in the mid-to-late 20th century when Jews started entering the legal profession. Jews entered the U.S. legal profession decades before the middle of the 20th century – by the time of the Great Depression, many Jews had already established themselves as lawyers

One of Terezi’s primary traits is her obsession with law, and this has negative consequences in her relationships. She is described in the wiki as “civil, flirty, manipulative, and derisive in her interactions. Her drive for justice results in some callous and cruel actions, the majority of which she has been shown to be deeply affected by and regret later on.” Basically, she fits the stereotype quite well.

Jewish people and Dragons

Obviously, Terezi loves dragons. She is raised by one. However, jewish people have a history of being associated with lizards, specifically by David Icke.

David Icke is best known for arguing that the world is run by a secret cabal of alien lizard people, many of whom are Jewish. One of the things he said that they did was secretly fund the holocaust, thus you may see why anything having to do with lizards is worrisome.

In addition, the association of dragons and hoarding bring in the whole “greedy jewish people” stereotype, so this is a double no.

Blood Libels

The only thing more suspect than a jewish goblin or dragon is a jewish vampire, which is why it is good that the rainbow drinkers are in the jade caste.

This is because of the blood libels, which was when many years ago, people thought jewish people were killing christain babies to use their blood for their wine and matza. This lead to a lot of lynchings.

While Terezi does not drink blood, she does have an obsession with eating the color red, and, particularly, Karkat’s sweet cherry red blood, with Karkat being the reincarnation of troll Jesus. Not great.

Giving Hussie the benefit of the doubt, Terezi being “troll jewgish” was just a joke he didn’t think too much about in response to an ask he received on springform. It is when hiveswap comes into the equation and gives us more teal bloods that it goes from : / to : [ . There was a lot of time to think about the fact that he had established Terezi as troll jewish, and since Terezi was for a long time the representation for all the teal bloods, giving that entire caste the association. It’s only strengthened by Stelsa, also teal, being the only other confirmed “troll jewish” character.

I will discuss the other teals in the order we were introduced to them.

Tagora Gorjek

The Jewish Lawyer.

see Terezi

The Money Hungry Jew

To be concise, ye old Christians viewed moneylending as a sin so it was one of the few jobs they let the jews do. Additionally, jewish people were not allowed to own land so being that or being a merchant were pretty much their only options.

The nobility would proceed to make the jews collect taxes for them and then encourage the other people to resent and turn against the tax collector. After that, they’d banish the jewish people to regain the favor of their people, while coincidentally taking any of the money that the jewish people had made for themselves. Hence, the stereotype was born.

From the wiki: Tagora is a sketchy legislacerator with dubious morals, and swindles quite a sum from the player mere moments upon his introduction. He charges quite a hefty sum for the different services rendered, which quickly places the player into debt.

The parallels are obvious.

Rodents

Jewish people being related to rats was something that Hitler said in order to encourage eugenics. Tagora’s lusus, one of the few we meet, is a ferret, likely just a pun on him being “ferrety”, but it gives me bad vibes when combined with everything else.

Tyzias Entykk

If I was making a jewish coded character, I’d go in the Tyzias direction. Don’t get me wrong, the stereotypes are there, but she isn’t just stereotypes. Still, I am being fair.

The Jewish Lawyer

see Terezi. This is more apparent in hiveswap act 2 than friendsim.

Minor Things

There are some other minor stereotypes, such as her being extremely hard-working, being frigid to the person she is in a relationship with, but Tyzias is better than the others.

Tegiri Kalbur

Not my favorite character, but, in this sense, we’re scott free! The only stereotype (aside from lawyer) is that he is simply a weeb, which has nothing to do with being Jewish. Congrats, Tegiri.

However, despite the slight climb, we’re about to take an unfortunate nosedive.

Tirona Kasund

Jewish Tattler

A lot of antisemitism originated because Christians blamed the Jewish people for the death of Jesus, as they gave him up to the Roman authorities. Hence, being labeled as a tattletale is not the best way to start.

Secret Control of the Media

This is a REALLY big one. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was written in 1903, a fake paper revealing a secret society of Jews who were secretly controlling the world in order to encourage antisemitism. Henry Ford printed thousands of copies and handed them out to Americans in order to justify not letting jewish refugees enter the country.

Even today, there is a very serious and harmful conspiracy theory that jews secretly control all the media, and Tirona aspires to do exactly that. She wants to control the media and spread propaganda through memes.

Put together with the Jewish coding of teals in general that I hope I have been able to convince you of, and it’s just Not Good, intentional or not.

And, finally.

Stelsa Sezyat

I do not have to convince you Stela is coded as jewish. It is on her card. Moving on.

The Money Hungry Jew

See tagora for stereotype origins, but Stelsa is an accountant. She works with money. The explicitly jewish coded troll is an accountant, the job that jewish people were historically forced into.

“Stelsa is an ambitious and forthcoming business person, with an internship as an audi-terroriser under the Alternian Government. Upon meeting the player, she offers the player her business card and services, indicating that she is quick to take every opportunity available to her.”

Her primary trait is a business person. It just doesn’t look great.

Jewish-American princess

Wikipedia again. Jewish-American princess (JAP) is a pejorative stereotype that portrays some Jewish women as spoiled brats, implying materialism and selfishness, attributed to a pampered or wealthy background. This stereotype of American Jewish women has frequently been portrayed in contemporary US media since the mid-20th century. “JAPs” are portrayed as being used to privilege, materialistic, and neurotic

Stelsa is portrayed as someone who puts in a lot of effort in her appearance, and wears pink, the color of privilege, unlike any of the other trolls we meet. She is explicitly against rebellion, another sign of privilege, thus fitting her neatly into this stereotype.

Nagging Jewish Mother

The nagging jewish mother is a stereotype, and talking with stelsa is referred to as “being struck by a verbal freight train”. She brings in the narrator from the rain, gives them a snack, and proceeds to talk their ear off. All in all, for your only explicitly jewish character, its not a good move.

Anyways, I’m not sure what I expect to get out of this except some awareness of the issue. It’s important to me that people realize this; it’s not subtle, and becomes less and less the more I thought about it. I don’t think Hussie did this on purpose, but by the time Hiveswap Friendsim came out he had the time to think it over, and unfortunately only dug deeper. I can’t think of a single jewish stereotype not seen in the teal class except, perhaps, for having big noses, though that may be because trolls aren’t depicted with them in the homestuck art style. I hope people can be aware of this when they’re designing characters themselves.

If you’d like to see some really great recourses for writing Jewish Characters, check out @writingwithcolor

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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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Hi, it's headcanon time.

Spoilers for homestuck ahead? Not really sure

🤨 I haven't read all of homestuck yet, but Gamzee has the energy of one of those characters/people who had too much pressure from their family (i guess that makes sense because his ancestor was the grand highblood) to be the best and i believe that would explain his whole drug abvse situation because he'd need some sort of venting outlet. As a highblood (and the highest land dwelling rank) it'd be normal for other people to expect a lot from him (especially considering his strength and the fact that trolls are a naturally violent race.) And before he ran out of faygo and pie and whatnot he was a really chill, caring, friendly guy (we can tell from his interactions with the other trolls)

So in other words Gamzee is a burnt out gifted child and um if i don't see like him getting some sort of "oh god what the fuck did i do" redemption arc in the future I'll be disappointed because he deserves a lot better 🤡

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A Rebuttal to Your Claims

Dear sir or ma’am who responds to this ask, I would first like to address my privilege as a straight cis white male. I am aware that this may discredit my opinion, but I believe that Homestuck is a great example of how racism is not only not prevalent, but that there is far more evidence to the strength of the characters held back by these constrictions, than drawbacks made by societal standards.

None of the protagonists or antagonists have confirmed races to begin with, unless you are counting the blood types of the trolls. In which case, I would like to draw attention to the definition of racism, as stated in the New Oxford English Dictionary: “Racism: noun: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.”

The trolls are most definitely an example of the textbook definition of racism, and are even there to be called out on such matters. The racism exists there, which had resulted in obvious dystopia and squalor among almost all races, even the highbloods, who lived unhappy and unfulfilled, save Feferi, who wished to end such violence and bloodshed that persisted within her society.

The society is made into one shaded in grays and greens, showing the disease and sickness that existed on the surface, and underneath everything machinated by Her Imperious Condescension. H.I.C. made a society in which the strong were made so from birth, and this caused them to suffer. The police state they existed in had no defence attorneys, no revolutions that went anywhere, and no heroes who could survive long enough to say their piece. It is a clear symbol of the evils of racism.

Despite all this, the ones who had lived under these standards their whole lives, the ones who actually played SGRUB, had done so in a way that had made them all function as a mostly cohesive group. In fact, the lowbloods had provided most of the work for the game, with the rank of caste being inverse to their part played.

Karkat had been the leader, Aradia had gotten the game, Tavros had raised an army of imps, Sollux had coded the game into playable versions, Nepeta is about where the help ends, as even Vriska had at most, ascended to god tier. All the lower ones had made the game possible. If it were truly racist, they would have been the fools who sat back while the highbloods had saved the session from their tomfoolery. Gamzee and Eridan are the worst of the worst, and their actions as a whole by the fandom, have never been justified, save from the crazy fangirls who think that “they don’t mean it”

As for ableism, I see no evidence that makes Tavros into a weaker character due to his parapeligism. He was unconfident, most assuredly, but that was even before he had lost his legs, and when he did lose his ability to move his legs, it only slowed him down at a single part with stairs. How could it be said that a man without the ability to use his legs be made weaker with an obvious lack of skill. Vriska had taunted and teased him, and a few pages later, Kanaya had called her out on it. There is not much that I see to discuss, but I may be wrong.

Again, I am only providing another perspective that shines the whole of Homestuck, the comic, not the fandom, in a more positive light. Think of it as you will, because I can see that you are some of the more level headed of the social justice warriors, and will not hopefully take my words as hateful. I am but a humble rp blog about badass robots and giant drills the size of the universe. I get that there’s racism, but there’s far more equality layered in there from my own point of view.

~MF derse: Firstly, I’m androgynous, so I suppose the only title that would even really fit is, idfk, sirma’am? Mx. Derse? Idk, the best way to address someone formally when you don’t know their gender is probably just “To whom this may concern:”, but no offense taken brah.

Secondly, on our rules and definition page, we clarify which definition we stick to with racism:

The collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture, or ethnic origin. It can be seen or detected in processes, attitudes and behaviour which amount to discrimination through unwitting prejudice, ignorance, thoughtlessness and racist stereotyping which disadvantage minority ethnic people. (SOURCE: The Stephen Lawrence Inquiry)

(Which, once again, is no hard feelings. The thing about the dictionary definition is that it’s incredibly inaccurate, oversimplified, and out of date by at least 30 years.)

(Now that technicalities are out of the way…)

What that means is that, in the context of Homestuck, that the highbloods are the privileged people in Alternia’s standards. We’ve seen examples also of the lowbloods being in pretty abysmal situations: they don’t get any history in relation to themselves which is actually a form of forced assymilation and humiliation, and, all in all, is done in an effort probably to control the masses. They live in closer, maybe even cramped, conditions for trolls. There’s a very good chance the drones are a threat only posed for landdwelling trolls. There’s a lot of systems in place to keep the lowbloods controlled. You’re very right about that!

Now, Hussie actually did a pretty good job of making Alternia an insidious dystopia, but in a dreadfully yet tastefully familiar way. That’s something he can be commended for, and a lot of people appreciate how it’s played pretty straight. Because a lot of hivebent can be taken as a statement against their horrible society, so the medium is still digestible.

To be frank, that was also a reason I used to really respect Hussie, because he can make a dystopia wonderfully horrifying which displays a level of insight that’s rare in a popular and silly comic.

But, later on he screwed that up in various ways, the most obvious one being the caucasian update. Which he fixed and apologized for, but with the most half-assed fauxpology that still leaves a horrendous taste in my mouth.

The truth of the matter is, he slipped up with a lot of the racism allegory just by proving that he does not share the empathy he does for his characters for real people. His in dept understanding of how systematic oppression works unfortunately falls laughably short when it comes to real life applications. He’s racist. Here’s some examples of it.

One thing that sticks with me is Gamzee’s entire arc. I’m not gonna lie, Gamzee was and still is a favorite character of mine. That being said, his behavior in the last few acts has been reprehensible, and I can definitely admit that. It just pisses me off because of one thing: up until a point, he was a harmless character that was:

coded racially due to his allusions to hip hop culture

coded for his substance dependency due to sopor

coded for child abuse due to neglect due to his absent lusus

coded queer for his interest in (nearly) exclusively males

coded mentally ill due to how he behaved with his friends—an attention-seeking, inoffensive, superficially charming and agreeable person despite the disdain he received regularly.

which means, honestly, he was very relatable and familiar character. And due to this mix of characteristics, he was a fresh breath of air and a well-constructed and invoking character. Especially since it looked like, at some point, he was going to be treated as an equally important and respected character. I can’t tell you how tired I am of seeing a) mentally ill, b) of color, c) queer, and d) substance dependent characters treated as jokes and inherently evil. And, at one point, long ago, Gamzee had a LOT going for him as a character.

Then, as you can see from the newest arcs, that has completely changed. Gamzee was a progressive character, but he has, in the most amazing feat, become regressive. I was willing to go through with murderstuck because I was still under the impression that the story would treat his manic episode as regrettable and eye-opening. Gamzee was known to be an unstable and isolated character before the game, yet none of his friends actually went through the effort to take care of his needs including his moirail. I was hoping that the story would treat this episode as an incredibly bloody aesop about neglect and abuse at the very least, and when Karkat calmed him down, it looked like Gamzee’s mental illness was gonna be treated, not that he was going to be limited to said illness and he’d permanently be a villain.

Yet, it did exactly that, which is amazingly ableist. People that suffer from mental illness are actually seen as “crazies” that should be locked away or killed, because they’re seen as not quite people, just moods and abstract, angry, or “stupid” thoughts. This is ESPECIALLY true for people of color with mental illness, who are overwhelmingly treated with violence and abuse. On top of the fact that he—a character at some point that was seen as exclusively queer—became a fucking wife-beating bad guy who somehow managed to regularly overpower arguably the strongest/most capable and least bullshit-accepting female troll (TEREZI, of all people! The other Scourge Sister! Who can be seen as the wiliest, most powerful troll left, since she defeated fucking Vriska) despite being a glass canon. Kanaya kicked him so hard in the shame globes he was out of commission for a span of pages.

(To clarify, I am making no statement about domestic abuse being only possible for weak/feeble-minded little females or some utter horseshit like that. I’m wiping my hands of anything close to a statement about that because abuse can happen to anybody. I am stating instead that Gamzee vs. Terezi is a fucking laughable match. Gamzee knew this, which is why he used her as a tool to bring Vriska down in the first place. Both of them were untouchable. Terezi also never had an interest in Gamzee, and vice versa. It’s inconsistent and utterly fucking ridiculous.)

Long story short? Gamzee was a coded black/latino character that became a racist, ableist caricature.

Just like Gamzee, Tavros was a disabled character that became a joke. Or rather, he always was. Him falling out of his chair or being immobile has been a joke since forever: Vriska’s flung him back and forth in his wheelchair, he’s fallen down stairs, and his anxiety/stutter has always been joked about. It’s played for pitiful laughs, but still laughs.

Make no mistake about it, Hussie has a great number of disabled characters on cast, but between Sollux always being made fun of for being bipolar (ugh), Terezi pointing in wrong directions, Latula “not having a real disorder”, Tavros being a walking, stuttering joke, and Gamzee being evil, it’s not very good representation. Hussie’s also straight up made fun of autistic people.

No one is saying that Hussie has not made efforts to be more inclusive, but as you probably know, he treats that in and of itself as a joke. There are scores of disabled people here that are here mostly due to the ableism in Homestuck, from the utter lack of epilepsy warnings to the fact that every. Single. Disabled character has been played for laughs [rapid gif warning]. In this comic.

And this is something that I didn’t even see at first. At least, not to this degree. It wasn’t until it was pointed out to me by the people that have submitted to this blog and have followed our development since week 1.

It’s not something you’d see at first, if you have a bit of privilege. But it is there. Various people recognize it, and that’s why this blog was made. We don’t just gather to talk shit about Homestuck (at this point, the only one probably doing that is me lmao); we’re complaining about the bigotry that keeps slapping us in the face every time we want to read a comic about some kids that play a game. We’re complaining about Hussie’s incessant desire to enable bigots because he doesn’t want to think twice about what he’s effectively saying in a comic that he’s definitely tried to be preachy about. He thinks of it as an art, and we’re criticizing it as an art. Think of it as us paying our respects.

We wanna have fun like everyone else, but it’s admittedly hard when the same comic that shows us a diverse cast of backgrounds just to poke fun at them. Hell, if we wanted to see that, we’d just go outside.

(Excuse me if I keep editing this. You guys know me, too brain problems to live.)

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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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I get what you're saying, so I'll just say one last thing.

It is clear to me that you all have a very large knowledge of this, and I understand that you will have many more sources to cite than me, but I still wish to make the argument here. I know that convincing you otherwise is a foolish and fruitless endeavor, as you are steadfast in your opinion, but I still wish to say my piece.

Regarding Gamzee, it is clear that he was a character parodying the Juggalos, who are majorly white hillbillies. This means that he’d be a violent character who has a tendency for abuse, so Hussie had played him as an exception at first, but had decided later on to make him as overpowered and unbeatable as possible, as would normally be the case for people of white ethnicity.

This is where the genius irony comes in, because despite all of this, Gamzee is liked by literally nobody. Not one character enjoys his company, and this is due to said violent tendencies. If Hussie had truly played the racist, he would have made Gamzee loved by all, and everyone would have walked right towards the club without a second thought if he asked them to.

Though this clearly isn’t the case, as, again, Gamzee is the least liked character in Homestuck. As was Eridan, as everyone around him thought that his thought of landdweller genocide were barbaric, and cruel. Ironic as well, since he has never been underwater but three times. This is making fun of how some people are so hateful of tendencies supposedly performed by lower races when he himself is doing it the same.

Yet again, if Hussie had been a racist, he would have made Eridan completely and utterly justified in his actions. He would have made the master race thing seem like an identifiable cause, and have other characters sympathize. But Eridan was shot down every time he had tried to kill things without justification, as he had done with the angels, who were as Karkat stated, not there for the purpose of killing. They were his consorts, and by taking them down, he was being a major douchebag.

As for your tweet source on ableism, it is clear to me that Hussie had stated that “he’d be a rainbow” which means that he was poking fun at his own tendencies, and he was making a joke to his buddy. He even acknowledged that he’d be called out for the fact due to Tumblr’s occasionally unhealthy obsession with doing so.

I will not excuse the comics on ableism, as on that pint you are clearly correct. The comic has made fun of a lot of those points, and they did it in an admittedly comedic manner. There is a lot more now that I look at it. But those jokes were only made for the sake of a joke. A rather narrow minded one, but a joke nonetheless.

They’re character arcs were all ended by them recovering from their disabilities, much to the chagrin of the other characters. Karkat and Dave were pissed when Terezi got rid of her blindness, and were even more pissed when they found out that Gamzee was responsible, because they knew that he was nothing but trouble at that point.

Terezi and Tavros, who were the worst cases, eventually found some courage and put it to the people who had made the most fun of their disabilities, with Terezi even embracing what had supposedly made her “weak” ala Toph Bei Fong, and had inflicted what would have been mortal wounds on anybody but the Bard of Rage.

On most of the points though, your arguments are very valid and justified, and I see this other perspective. I appreciate you giving me your perspective, and hope that you can understand mine. Yet again, I wish only to cross pollinate knowledge for the sake of learning. I will not argue on the points which you are clearly correct on.

If I may, though, I would like to say that an eye for an eye does make the whole world blind, as was stated by Ghandi, an Indian lawyer who had every oppurtunity to violently attack the British Empire, but instead made it his way to not harm a single soul in his active pursuit of independence. I will follow this man’s teachings, even if I am, again, a cis white Christian male. It is not weakness to pursue the peaceful route.

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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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Honestly these two pictures alone pretty much convince me that Gamzee is definitely under Lil Cal’s control because like… how more obvious can it get?

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Gamzee Makara: goes to sulk to themself abt someone making light of their religion

Gamzee Makara: shows absolutely no malicious intent until Cal influences them

Gamzee Makara: literally begs Karkat, the pale crush they trust and know to be good at pacifying, to help calm them down

Gamzee Makara: Literally says Cal has an effect on them

Fandom: WTF why is he murderous and shitty and bad now wtf :////

Fandom: WhAT DO YOU MEAN YOU THINK THERES SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON OBVIOUSLY GAMZEES PERSONALITY JUST FLIPPED 100% ALL OF A SUDDEN

Fandom: Its because of sopor addiction

Fandom: Hes just insane now

Fandom: We arent ableist

#oh my god #gamzee makara #gamzee homestuck #gamzee makara analysis #homestuck #character understanding #IT WAS LIKE IN YOUR WHOLE FACE #re blog #reblog

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sweet-cuddlebug · 12 days ago

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Gamzee didn't need a "redemption arc" because he was never going to be "redeemed". Redemption is a fictional concept, because it creates an illusion that the redempted is lesser (and in a way, will always be lesser) than the person calling for the redemption. Literally when Callie says to Egbert that they should let Gamzee out Egbert automatically is on edge. Gamzee was never going to be redeemed because redemption is based on how much you're worth to the main characters. And if you aren't worth anything to the characters you're supposed to care about, why should you care about the one trying to change? Karkat is rightfully traumatized by Gamzee, and he doesn't need to forgive Gamzee for what he's done to him. Gamzee's value is not determined by Karkat's opinion of him though. You can hate someone all you want, but ultimately their life is theirs to care about, not yours. Nobody gave Gamzee a chance, and only focused on the shit that he did wrong and never bothered to tell him that he was being an asshole. They LET him do the shit that he did. Because his worth meant nothing to them. The writers didn't help at all either because people label the characters who are "good" and "bad", and if a majority of the fandom hates a character, ofc they're going to make that character even more hated if they hate them as well. Gamzee is a polarizing character. Lots of fans don't understand his motives. That's part of his fucking character, and its really important to his character too. REAL people like him exist. It can be really disheartening to see a character so goddamn relatable and that you connect with so heavily be treated like absolute scum of the earth. He didn't deserve redemption, he deserved to heal. Healing is hard. Coming to terms with the fact that you have traumatized the people most important to you is even harder. Losing those connections are difficult. Healing is arguably more messy than the trauma it's lead to. How you heal and when you heal is not determined by the people who don't see your value. It's a choice you have to make yourself. It honestly would've been funny if the first thing that Egbert did in candy was dump Gamzee off at a psych ward so the cast didn't have to deal with him (aka never coming out and being put in a straight jacket because lets be honest, thats what they thought would happen.) and Gamzee actually ends up being the most functional adult out of all of them. Thats redemption.

#I used to not believe in the theory of mind control. I thought that theory was trying to minimize what Gamzee did.#But then I paid more attention to the text and it turns out they tell you that to your face.#like straight up #Lil Cal is cursed. Scratch is a literal groomer manipulator.#Aranea's literal mindcontrol. Gamzee's loneliness and lack of genuine connections. LE's influence is more subtle.#Gamzee was literally created to be a tool #He really had no freewill or say in it.#And worse? He didn't have anyone who cared enough either.#That's the most doomed character I ever saw #(the writers have no say in it because it's still literally in the text)#gamzee makara #gamzee homestuck #gamzee makara analysis #healing arc #post canon discussion #fuck the epilogues #fuck hbc too #homestuck #reblog #re blog

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