#out there! thats as compelling if not more compelling!!
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oh! i actually know about this lol. i'm a comic artist. i also did my master's thesis on queer YA comics & my dissertation is about trans comics & zines, my program is The Comic Studies Program (English at University of Florida, where Donald Ault started ImageTexT, which iirc was the first or one of the first journals solely dedicated to comic studies in the United States-- Ault was a seminal figure in the field). unfortunately comic studies is one of few things i know very very well, specifically, to caveat, in a USamerican context, but thats also the context where I'd say McCloud is considered "oversaturated."
the thing about mccloud is like. ok. it's more that he's an incredibly visible figure because his work is actually accessible to the general public. And I think because he has a really approachable way of doing analysis, he's a really easy touchpoint. This isn't a criticism! There's a reason Understanding Comics remains a seminal text. because he was one of the first guys to even try to define the formal structures of a comic, as opposed to awkwardly grafting it onto literary analysis or visual analysis that didnt take into consideration the actual interplay between image & text & panel & page. People are gonna continue to build on his definitions, thats the nature of the thing.
but I personally disagree with many things McCloud writes! For example, he tries to contend that hieroglyphics among other things are an early prototype of comics (I am slightly oversimplifying). That's an ahistorical argument designed to make comics seem more historically important than they are, frankly. This is a trap a lot of comics studies falls into: we are still, even in 2024, so desperate to make comics seem ""legitimate"" as a form academics get really caught up on trying to bend back and imbue comics with some sort of long history that simply doesnt exist and ignores the material conditions that gave rise to comics as a specific art form that does a specific kind of work.
I have other qualms but I realize this post is about who else has offered anything to the convo, which is a fair thing- part of the reason McCloud's work is oversaturated is because he's very accessible, he writes for a general audience. That said if folks are interested I do recommend:
Thierry Groensteen, who like McCloud is interested in the sequence of images in his analysis - I don't fully endorse everything he writes either but he's an interesting figure who is also pretty often cited
Bart Beaty - particularly Comics vs Art and Frederic Wertham and the Critique of Mass Culture. He's a bit cynical and again, I dont fully agree with everything he says but I do think he gives some of the most cogent critiques of comic studies as an academic discipline!
If you're looking only for discussion of comics Form, Ramzi Fawaz and Darieck Scott do some interesting work with comics & queer theory; Elisabeth El Refaie has a wonderful book on autobiographical comics and their conventions; Harriet Earle does great work on how comics can be used depict trauma through their form (her essay "Comics and the Chronotope" is an all time fave of mine); "How To Read Nancy" is a more approachable, general audience text that pulls apart a single strip of Nancy in more ways than you'd think possible.
tumblr mobile wont let me end this bullet point list but finally I'd add ImageTexT is open access, meaning the articles are all up for free, so that's twenty odd years of available comic studies from a very wide range of writers including non-academic writers!
The Comics Grid: Journal of Comic Scholarship is also open access online!
Non-open access journals that are comics-specific you can probably get through a library or. Other means: Image & Narrative, International Journal of Comic Art, Journal of Graphic Novels and Comics, Studies in Comics, Sequential Art Narrative in Education
There's also like one million Comic Studies Reader books. Like throw a rock and you'll hit one. They're usually nice cross sections of what sorts of ideas people are working with in the field, and again, fairly easy to obtain through a library or "library"
couple replies/tags on that scott mccloud post about his essays being trite or oversaturated in comics education (being at this point over 30 years old) and while I get where that's coming from I also can't help but wonder; has anyone done it better since?
#sorry for the long post op i hope you dont mind!#i just do not like mccloud even if i appreciate and indeed use some of his ideas lmao#when i say hes oversaturated i really mean hes babys first comic studies citation and thats FINE but theres definitely...way more!#out there! thats as compelling if not more compelling!!
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I’ve been so busy with other stuff but I really want to get back to drawing WHF art so I went and cleaned up a wip. Not sure how I feel with some of the angles but I just needed to get this out of my system
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#mcart#we happy few#whf#uncle jack#jack worthing#whf uncle jack#nick lightbearer#norbert pickles#whf nick lightbearer#is this lightfog?#yeah it is ngl so#lightfog#listen any ship art I make usually nine times out of ten it’s nothing romantic it’s usually shitposts like this#but the subtext is there#and this is toxic yaoi anyway ain’t no way they’d have a proper romantic relationship#their dynamic compels me though#it would work more in his foggy jack form but also I think it would be funny if this is how jack acts to him in his uncle jack form#just slightly unhinged#anyway uhhh if you’re still reading the tags uhh mayhaps you’d like to send me a request for a whf art idea?#gonna be honest I only have so many ideas I want to do but I feel like I need to be motivated so#it would be so awesome. it would be so cool#read my pinned post though and take into consideration for that cause there’s just some things I won’t do so I may end up rejecting an idea#would like to draw something with uncle jack cause like lately ive been trying to draw him but been having the hardest time idk why#he just looks off in my artstyle rn so maybe if i get a request id be able to lock in#anyway uhhh thats it
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caps from comic Im doing
#not art yet. sorta#yeah that's one piece#outing myself this year as a sanji enjoyer#idk what compelled me to come back here (that's a lie I know 100% and it's haterism) but I did finally sit down and put down#this idea I've sat on for a Long time. bc I think I just. finally feel ready for it#or rather. both it and myself have been worn down and moulded enough by just. time passing. to be able to sit with each other in peace#but yeah I'm now neck deep in this (almost halfway thru inking!!) and Im learning a Lot#whatever u say abt one piece oda is a Phenomenal comic artist. one piece art-wise is dense on a level that makes me feel insane#like you barely see more than one type of screentone used and it's mostly to separate planes. its Just Ink. its fucked up#and drawing this comic is forcing me to show up on my a-game on a craft level as well. I love so much a Large part of it so far#comic is good guys. did u guys know that has anyone said this before#but yeah this one will! probably get posted to my main blog when the posting version is done. which is why I said in the prev ask#that the spheres might intersect soon lol#Im aware this is a stupid way to go about it if u look at it from a marketing/advertising angle. but thats not what Im here for#Im showing u cool bugs I made basically. and when the exhibit happens its gonna have mostly nothing to do with this#but yeah. if u see a comic with these caps in it in the future u will Know#otherwise we keep up kayfabe yeah? for fun. for comfort
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Adjusting my glasses to take a peek into the umbrella academy tag like Hmmmm. Maybe I don't want to watch the new season after all.
#im gonna be real I didnt even realize it had come out yet#where was all the marketing?? i saw none of it#Ive complained to friends before that a lot of the umbrella academy feels like hurt no comfort in a bad way#theyre SO good at making interesting compelling conflict on a personal level with the characters#and every time it happens I go “oh man I cant wait for the others to find out about this thing and react to it!”#but then it just. never happens. its forgotten and replaced with more character angst only us the audience seems to truly care about#example comes most to my mind is like almost every single thing that happens to Klaus in s1#my son got the end of the stick over and over and over and it was either always ignored or used as a punchline#and thats only funny the first 3 times#same w Luthor basically almost being sexually assulted by Allison (am I remembering that right? its been a while)#it happens. its bad. the audience goes “oh fuck I cant wait to see the reactions / pay off from other characters ab this”#then it just doesnt! give us that!#it never gives us that pay off!#idk that was always my biggest pet peeve#the umbrella academy#birds rambles
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what if we have no choice but to bring down the veil ourselves to free solas from his fade prison + freeing solas from his prison is the only way to defeat the evanuris
#to be clear i dont think the fate of the veil will be up to player choice#there would have to be some reason that we NEEDED him out in order to win and that the ONLY way to get him out was no veil#leaving the veil's fate up to player choice would make dragon age 5 impossible to build#but i wonder if this'll be how they get around the problem of “solas is evil for wanting to bring down the veil and kill everyone!!”#and contextualize his need to bring it down as a NEED not a choice as he says multiple times#by giving us the exact same conundrum#you want to save the world from the evanuris? well. you have to bring down the veil#it perfectly mirrors why he had to put it up in the first place#i imagine there will be a more compelling reason for NEEDING him than just oh he's powerful and we need a god to fight a god bc thats lame#but the devs love putting us in his exact same position in a different context#exhibit A: in hushed whispers#so i can imagine them doing it again#also i just need the veil down please#im sick of that thing#solas#dragon age#dragon age the veilguard spoilers#dragon age the veilguard#da:v#da: the veilguard
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3l!grian is frequently depicted as a tragic figure and sometimes i wonder if we even watched the same series
#like yes he is tragic. every character in the series is tragic but i think hes easily the least tragic of the winners#(except maybe cleo. i have my own thoughts about how cleos victory plays into her core themes and why its not as joyous or triumphant as#cleo the players and the fandom at large make it seem that i will have to make a real post about at some point)#grian dies Laughing. he smiles and calls it a dual victory before the final fight. his last words are “its been amazing.”#to me Grians arc is about how he came in with this sense of mirth. had it ripled away by the reality when his joke gets Scar killed.#and then rediscovers it as he learns that the horror of their circumstances doesn't need to keep him from delight#plus also ive never seen a man more delighted to explode three of his friends#ill also bring up that Martyns lore has Grian involved in the games explicitly to COMBAT the angst#that Grians inherent silliness and joy makes the players less hopeless as they meet their endings#and theres obviously parts of martyns lore i can take or leave but this is one area where Eyes and Ears lines up very well with what actions#the characters take and so im happy to bring it up#unlike other parts such as “limlife pearl and cleo retained more trauma between seasons than any player has before”#which i do directly refute as it doesn't seem to line up with the way the characters act and the story plays out#thats for another post though#my point here is 3l grian was having the time of his life and i think there are some fanon interpretationd that disregard that#which theyre free to do im definitely someone who has ignored canon plenty of times in the past (glances at worm)#but i think this is the sort of thing that makes the canon more interesting and compelling#anyway. um. rambled longer than i meant to there#grian#trafficblr#3rd life#3rd life smp#3lsmp
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Yknow. I do forsee a potential plot point for Netflix-levania to somehow have Dracula as a villain back, even with the end of the previous series. Obligation. He's no longer the weary widower, and with Lisa's return there's closure. He's lived as a man. He understands man. He may not even hate man. Maybe.
And yet he's back because the other Vampires are fucking it up and now daddy's home to bring back order. He's no longer gunning for genocide, but honestly, the politicking of the vampires who are so far up their own asses, they need to be reminded who's really in charge. His death left a power vacuum, a particularly annoying vacuum. Maybe the little things of humanity irk him, but vampires are everything they have but turned up to 11.
So at the end it's a formality. He'll come back, clean things up among vampire society, make enough of a mess to get a Belmont to kill him, then turn in for another 100 years.
Does this make him too noble? Probably. If you want the grandiose "What is a man" Dracula, you can extrapolate from "It's an obligation" and have him actively resent people pulling him out of the afterlife from Lisa so fucking much, that he leans too hard into the role. The part of him who's evil out of obligation and the part who's evil out of resentment begin to blur the lines. Is he the lord of darkness because that's the role he's been cast and is simply going through the motions or his he just so simply done with the whole process that he refuses to give up an inch of power to any other Vampire (or human) because they're all just children in his eyes?
It could still ultimately culminate in a Soma Cruz plot line where after 1999 he quits so hard that he refuses to even return to the role properly but it doesn't matter because his mere presence fills the vacuum, even when he does nothing (not for the lack of trying from others).
Maybe that's a bit petulant in its own right. YMMV, but I think that's the point. For being such an archetypal lord of all evil villains, how he fills it is shockingly dynamic. He's evil for evils sake, a beacon of arrogance, or a truly tragic villain. Depends on what's needed. If he does come back, I do want to really see a "Castlevania does Bram Stoker's Dracula. Genuinely. It's just an adaptation for the original novel because that's Canon to the original Castlevania timeline, and it'd be funny to properly reveal that Quincy Morris is a Belmont (And his son fights WW1 vampires and grandson WW2)."
#castlevania#netflix castlevania#castlevania nocturne#just a 4am rambling with minimal thought behind it#watching the new show it didnt feel like elizabeth bathory was meant to be the truly intimidating presence as the show pretended she was#but that shes merely a placeholder for the truly engaging villains come in#why else would she be so overpoweringly overshadowed by Orlox and Dralto#theyre actually interesting shell just be usurped late#if thats not the case and actually was meant to be as a replacement for the big D#then thats an obvious criticism like yeah if she was meant to be this impossing go for it#dont just skimp out on her this fucking mich#but like in far fewer time drac's intro had him fall amusingly into line for a woman and then rained literal hell for her death#including big faces in the sky and pyres#while bathory here was all 'ooh a messiah a messiah' with to back up thats not actually shared by other vampires#like being hard to kill#hell orlox's 7 minutes in the intro sold his presence#so here as a writer witching this lackluster portrayl feels like inevitable prep for a more compelling big bad#cant believe i didnt mention carmilla. shes like the same archetype as bathory but well done
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Do you think Vi and Minnie were still dating when Minnie and Sophie got captured or do you think things were going awry and they broke up before the twins got captured?
they were definitely still dating i dont think we have any reason to believe they werent? like im p sure all evidence points to dating. but i definitely think their relationship was awry at that point, and they were just in a weird middle zone, at least on minnies side. minnie definitely had her frustrations if her words to vi in the woods are anything to go by, and i think violet also not having a response to it and instead just retreating says something about her/their relationship
i do think violet loved minnie and just wanted to make her happy (even if in doing so gave herself the "short end of the stick" in the relationship), and violet seeing minnie as the fish i think says a lot about how positively she viewed her (and i think her getting so flustered at clem saying shes the fish is because those are secretly traits she aspires to, but has yet to recognize in herself). i think minnies behavior towards a kidnapped violet shows us she still cares about her too even if things werent perfect. so if minnie had never been kidnapped, i dont think they wouldve ever actually split up, even if the relationship was turbulent.
what Really causes them to split is the change in the person minnie has become. violet (grief stricken and blaming herself), does not recognize this person, and doesnt like who she sees. someone who would rather hurt the people they supposedly care about to save themselves. unfortunately a kidnapped violet learns this lesson too late
#anyway i dont think vi could have ever reached her full potential if she had stayed in a relationship with minnie#i dont think either of them were getting true fulfillment out of that relationship. for whatever reasons#but also they were best friends and cared about each other enough to Not split up before minnie “died”#ITS COMPLICATED but thats what makes it compelling!!#regardless vi DOES fall in love with clem. which makes it even More compelling. and messy 😏 i love mess#UGH theres too much to talk about when it comes to the relationships between these 3 and i think ive already done it before anyway#its unfortunate we have to guess so much about their relationship pre S4. but i think we know enough. its not that important anyway#whats important is that vi Needs to move on. and watching her character struggle with that (while also falling in love again) is compelling#(and why her shooting minnie to save clem is so satisfying (and shocking))(and why it hurts so much to break kidnapped violets heart 😭)#violet my beloved theyll never make me hate you#twdg#vinerva#replies with lexi#incognito
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the honest to god worship of kenny in some twdg spaces needs to be studied... are we forgetting the everything about him being a complex and nuanced character or am i just insane. this man is NOT a hero he is literally just on a downward spiral
#and like i really appreciate him as a character and his arc in season one is good#but he's. so fucking flawed. like arguably more so or equal to jane#people get pissed at jane for advocating for killing sarah but kenny literally gets angry as hell at lee if he saves ben???#This Is The Same Situation Some of You Just Hate Women!!!!!#he gets on my nerves so much... the way he treats lee when you don't kill anyone he doesn't like#he's. A deeply broken man. Thats for sure !#and don't get me wrong i'm not a kenny hater but the fandom's treatment of him#(especially on reddit and instagram)#Makes me WANT TO EXPLODE#STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!!!!!#like he is not the hero people paint him out to be. Compelling?? yes!#Good sometimes??? Yeah!!!!!#he's a conflicting character sometimes you love him sometimes you hate him. most times i am angry with him.#idk it just pisses me off times a million when even the official walking dead accounts feed into this#give me the skybound instagram account login details for 1 day and i will reverse everything that these people think#twdg#idk#tag rant
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hello gamers i was compelled today to post some rekinder doodles i had around for a while and made today ... I WILL BE POSTING MORE PROPER ART OF IT ONCE IM DONE WITH WORK!! :33
#re:kinder#fanart#yuuichi mizuoka#shunsuke takano#chie re:kinder#theres yuuichis mom#mami re:kinder#AND MORE IM LAZY TO TAG#i was compelled to draw joker paint yuuichi a bit ago because of this repost i saw once of someone calling him joker for gay people at 8#THE BLACK CAT WINK THING WAS BECAUSE I FIND IT INSANELY FUNNY THAT IT MAKSS CHARACTERS GLOOMY IM SORRYY#dark stare??? yeahh getting a nasty look will get you gloomy . stick out tongue. well that is a great offense when youre a kid so yea it too#BUT A WINK😭😭😭😭 THATS SO FUNNY DOES IT DISTURB EM SO MUCH TO SEE HIM WINK TJATS SO FUNNYYY#o yea i just wanna give a shoutout to the person wjo drew rekinder fanart today for inspriign me to post this#I HAD FORGOTTEN I HAD THESE DOODLE IDEAS CUZ OF WORK AND MY HEALTH#but now i feel good enougj to post em!!!!!!#i will post somrthing more proper soon once im done with work cuz i cant really multitask with my health rn BUT I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!#the second i graduated things been wild im a bit overwhelmed gimme a second will ya :333
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okay, something i’ve been trying to decide, curious about yalls thoughts…
*official as in, these were natures given to various event distribution pikachus with the ot satoshi and/or ash.
some flavour text if you’re unsure:
naughty nature boosts attack and decreases special defence. preferred flavour is spicy; least favourite is bitter
brave nature boosts attack and decreases speed. preferred flavour is spicy; least favourite is sweet
hardy nature is a neutral nature, so it doesn’t change any stats and is neutral to all flavours
#taylor.txt#taylor watches anipoke#i guess#i think for NON official ones id be more compelled to pick hasty or rash but these ones idk#i guess i’d lean towards naughty? these days i think The official pick is hardy…but i think thats boring LOL#im not asking because of some kind of out there au or anything like that…haha…no absolutely not <3#rbs are fine btw im just curious what people think!
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posted all these muppets i drew the other day and i FEAR THAT IF I SAY THE COMMONALITY BETWEEN THEM ALL EVERYONE WILL GET THEIR KNIVES OUT ON ME AGAIN LMFAO
#free my fkn man he aint do noTHINGGGGGGG#leave steve alone ill get the sword out#thats my baby 65yr old man but thats also i love him so horribly bad in a vampiric like shakespearean way#i feel so strongly about this#everyone was a hater lowkey on insta w this#my art#muppets#fraggle rock#frootbats#the muppets#deadass im sorry he didnt do shittttttt#im tired of this im abt to publicly enter battle over this man lmfaoooo#i cant know how to hear any more about how he sucKS BC HE DOESNT HES THE SWEETEST LEAVE HIM ALONE#me included leave him alone i need to not be a freak abt him#trying to turn whatever this is into how i feel abt wembley fraggle. incredibly overprotective for no reason lmfao#my friend met him this weekend and im so unwell about it#only pics ive seen of him recently where he looks like him thats an insane thing to say but his light is gone in a lot of pics w ppl#i feel so much for him and also jim and i literally cannot get into that bc i get ill abt it#i almost got into it in my video and i feel compelled to add some shit back in in a post edit section#oh my god his insta post the other day abt jim dont get me started im fucking sick#also idk what possessed me to draw marlon#im tinkerbell abt this man ive never had this happen so bad lmfao i dont know i cant explain i am drawn to him
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guys I’m in the trenches. One of these days I have to go make a really long in-depth detailed post about trito and kinoga’s dynamic because it drives me insane and I need to lay it all out. the specifics of it. I have so many thoughts
#posting this here only so that the idea can hang above my head like the sword of damocles#al speaks#I just have so much to say and I figured since I post art here and other general character writing here it only seems fitting#i dont knoww I spend so much time ruminating on why theyre so compelling to me#it’s about the magnetism. its about wanting to come together whether they like it or not#situations thats cjanged them irreversibly and all they feel like they can do is hold ont to each other#its about the paralysis of it. almost feeling trapped within one another because they’re all each other has#having to break out of the years of just wanting and missing#the tension of knowing/concluding that the other was gone with the undeniable force that is the Wanting#just wanting to see and be. nothing more. just to know that the other is okay#the whole PROJECTION THING WITH THEM! FUCK!!!!!#trito feeling sorry that all he can do is drag kinoga along in his wanting#and kinoga just feeling agonized at seeing trito so distraught. Of course they will be there for him#and both feeling lile their core ‘character traits’ weighing them down when it used to be a source of pride and self#if kinoga had just stayed in the domes nothing would have changed. they would still just be friends#the whole thing about the event that tore them apart stitching them closer together#trito#kinoga#tritonoga#theyre so. theyre so !!!!!!!!!!#the fact that they will stay in this paralysis until they decide they have to more forward and look for the others#and above all else. they love each other so much. thank you for your time#splatoon#my ocs#splatoon ocs
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thank god im not a journalist cus the amount of eye contact would kill me
#watching a vale interview for research. seeing how he talks and acts for fics from his pov#lots of hand movements. high lilt in his voice. lots of explanation. leads you through a story. very interested in conversation.#hes explaining smth rn and istg it is not related to the question at all. it's interesting i like it but was that the question bud#the question was 'how have you seen RIDERS change over the years? example pedrosa and marquez' and vale went 'ah. 2005 and 2019 are very#different bikes. theres more electronics now.' hes just answering what he wants girl get back on topic 😭😭#NEVER wants to talk about marc thats another observation.#'i come from an era of drinking and cigarettes' funny guy#subtle insults....idk if he means it to be insulting but eh who knows he has a specific tone#it was a question on evolution and how he adapts to riders of the past and riders of the present actually im stupid 😔 sry technically he DID#answer it was just odd jajajaja#great passion for motorcycles :)#atp this is just notes#why are his legs so long. sry. thats mean but why are his knees so far#i feel like he has a tendency to get very very close to whoever hes talking to. kinda a 'i AM interesting in what youre saying. you are#interested in ME' and i think thats very intriguing. lots of movements lots of leaning#i fw his earring so heavy bro i love his stupid one earring#hes so good at conversation wow#luca mention :))#ok yea hes literally abt to fall out of his chair thats how far hes leaning into the interviewer. they know each other so im not too#surprised but eh#he loves to explain loves to talk he really is so compelling. hes a storyteller. and very very italian#interview is valentino rossi uncut from 2019. its on the motogp youtube channel#need to see him do small talk. or just a little conversation between friends but idk italian so that may be hard to find#yap sesh tag#motogp
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i have opinions so unpopular.......
#i think i understand why i'm so disinterested in the bucktommy stuff. and it's bc from a character/story standpoint i don't really care#about watching buck date around or experience x y or z it's just not compelling to me even if it's with a man. we've seen him learn various#lessons from various relationships and he's had his fun on screen idc. i think watching buck figure out how to make sense of his emotions#and do something about them in a coherent way and MAKE A CHOICE FOR HIMSELF is soooo much more appealing than anything else#if anything EDDIE needs to have his going out and letting things happen to him phase. shannon needs to stop being his frame of reference#for what love and family looks like and for who he is. he's literally never done anything!!!!!! he needs to do stuff and be happy!!!!!#thats all. this is clownery anyway. also im only saying this because buck is probably officially in his pining era if this is happening LOL
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Also i find her naive desperation (cant find the right words for it) to see her adventuring crew as sworn friends wholl go thru hell together even tho shes the newest addition soooo telling. Shes had trouble making friends her whole life she was really hoping! And even the ones who left are willing to go to hell for her n the crew so its not like its not true. Its just not like how it is in her mangas. I think theres a good chance she n namari become like closer after the end of the series.
#dungeon meshi spoilers#So much of her behaviors can be traced back to having difficulty interacting w her peers and instead turning to manga to figure things out#kinda funny how both she n laios are like. Otaku nerds of a sort#Maybe even she and shuro now that shes gotten over how angry the fact his proposal wouldve made falin leave her but that deep down she knew#her feelings werent justified bc falin can make her own decisions but she wants to believe… its not like that and hes scum thats gonna hurt#Falin to justify her anger and make it something more rational (just like what she did w laios) that shes just protecting her and has her#Best interests at heart but i think they both just mutually kind of dont like each other#not for particularly deep reasons after this they just dont vibe#Theyre both more similar than theyd like to admit as ppl who who difficulty getting along w others havent really made many close friends.#tendency for tunnel vision tje touden siblings compelling them to go into the fray and stay at things they arent particularly good at#despite their discomfort for dirty things/confrontation respectively#But i think pointing this out would jsut annoy them both#Putting up a dignified front to hide their loser tendencies (what normal ppl call being a fully realized human being)#At the end stepping up to the roles of their parents (court magician and taking an earnest shot at being the leader of his clan)#the list just goes on and on and on
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