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[愛用であるように 錆びたカトラリー]
Song: Cutlery by Yuukisan
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I found another old conversation I had, here it is, but I warn you, it's long...
! Yes another reaction! Im really happy we getting more of it!
But please remember OG Katarina's Good deed's not only the Bad ones
And please PLEASE for the Love of Akatosh don't trie to justify Katarina's Exile as if it was anything but in act of complete and crulety!
I have nothing more to say and hope to read more soon
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:00PM CEST
As a person who haven't read much of the manga nor the Light Novels, and only with prior knowledge from the anime, I have zero clue of what was OG Katarina's deeds that were not bad. I would appreciate it if I were to be enlightened with some of these facts I do not know about.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:24PM CEST
Okay thank you for asking ^_^ i'd love tell you !
First of when Katarina was younger Baron sherry came to house Claes to force Anne in to a Forced Marriage that played out In OG Fl
The same way it did in they Anime,what you may not know is that the Mann he tried to marry her of to was already above 60 years! And known for committing Domestic Violence on his previous Wifes,So little OG Katarina stood up to protect her lowly Maid who is nothing more than a Commoner point from a grown ass scary looking Adult,
She also never bullyd Sophia despite the rest of Sociar Nobility Children doing it
She even told her own grown clique to leave Sophia alone as she was the little sister of her fiances best friend
Which is more than Geordo ever did for the Ascards,
She encouraged Sianna Nelson daughter of the lowest ranked Noble family in all of Sociar after seeing her hard work
And Sianna became Katarina's best friend despite being just one single step about a Commoner in her status
Which shows that even OG Katarina cared more about a persons personality than status when choosing friends
She only gets on trial in the routes were Maria tries it with either Katarina's Fiance or adopted Brother or both
And that with the Alan was just a miss translation when the Harem route was meant
Ps:I hope this was helpfull,please tell me ^_^
Last Edited Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:27PM CEST
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:37PM CEST
You have my deepest gratitude. Thank you for the new found knowledge that shall be used for this work.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:43PM CEST
Im the one who should thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain ^-^
But there is also something else...
It's just a rumor so i didn't include it in my explanation,
Do you wanna hear it ?
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:44PM CEST
By all means go ahead, I'll fact check it along the way.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:57PM CEST
Thank you ^_^!
Well there actually two rumours
First of,apparently no matter which route you choose Maria's actuall first crush was Katarina even in the FL time line
Second the more obvious Katarina only behaved the way she did in the Game because of Raphael/Sirius dark magic
Please let me know what you think or know about that ^_^!
Thank you ^_^!
Well there actually two rumours
First of,apparently no matter which route you choose Maria's actuall first crush was Katarina even in the FL time line
Second the more obvious Katarina only behaved the way she did in the Game because of Raphael/Sirius dark magic
Please let me know what you think or know about that ^_^!
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 03:29PM CEST
Well, that certainly is something, I'll still see if whether or not this may be used or not.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 03:32PM CEST
Thank you ^_^!
Im already hiped for the next chapter ^_^!
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 12:57PM CEST
Hold it... the dark magic thing makes too much sense.
Since OG Katarina's exagerated actions towards OG Maria were out of character for her if what you said is true.
It would also explain why an trained swordsman like OG Geordo would Kill OG Katarina instead of disarming her despite being (probably) skilled enough for it...
OG Keith magic going crazy is more easily believable.
So...everything bad that happened with OG Katarina can be traced back to Sirius (well...traced to the mage whispering in his ear but still).
I already have great sympathy for both OG Katarina and OG Maria.
if both rumours are true that scaled even higher...
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 02:46PM CEST
Yea i used to hate OG Maria,ans she certainly is a coward but...
After hearing about it i most say it turned the whole thing in an even greater tragedy...
Can you imagen your first love being killed for being mean to you...?
Also Katarina only tries to kill OG Maria in the Bad ending
Meaning she is already sentenced to Exile = death for a spoiled Duke Daughter
Meaning even Dark Magic can only bring Katarina to kill Maria if Maria has already become the catalyst for her own demise not before....
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 03:50PM CEST
I think dark magic was involved from the beginning.
OG Katarina being mad at OG Maria in Geordo's route makes sense ( and it's completly fair), but it makes little sense in the Keith's route.
OG Katarina disliked OG Keith and OG Maria wasn't the first woman he courted, so it still is out of character for her.
And the Exile ending has Keith/Geordo print all over it, because they both disliked OG Katarina and i have a hard time beliving OG Maria resented Katarina's treatment.
Also i would not go as far as to call OG Maria a coward, after her magic manifested she had no positive human interaction at all...
The people of her village avoided because of her magic, her supposed existence because of an affair or both.
Her father left and her mother couldn't even look at her in the eye.
So she had a combo of critically low self esteem and affection starved.
Also the only routes that OG Maria was in the wrong in my opinion are Geordo and Alan (since both are betrothed to another)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 06:28PM CEST
That is really worth a tought,
Bout if the s the One she "actually loves" is Katarina is truth?
Id asks alot of questions
Like maybe she got only on with Keith/Geordo because of their connection to Katarina?
Also Maria is suposed to "see" dark magic
Something is of here....
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 10:42PM CEST
Since the choice is player based we can only speculate.
About the 'see dark magic thing', Fortune lover is a video game and Raphael/Sirius is an hidden capture target.
I don't know how the route is unlocked, but if it's supposed to be hidden maybe OG Maria needed to unlock a certan skill level or achieve something that allowed her to see dark magic.
If it was that obvious it would be a pretty on the nose hidden route for a video game.
My theory is that OG Maria 'persuit' of the capture targets was more on her need to have an good human connection (aka out of loneliness and desperation).
So i assume the hidden route would apear when she achieved enough self confidence/resolve to do so.
I don't see the OG Maria that would hide behind a capture target as having that conviction.
The Isekai Maria on the other hand confronted Sirius alone by her own will power (Bakarina's kindess gave her the confidence boost) and that Maria is the one that we are sure can see dark magic.
Because of that i belive that OG Maria needed to make the other capture targets lives and selves better without losing to her loneliness, then she would be able to truly help Raphael. (but that is just my theory)
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:08PM CEST
Also, since we are sharing theories.
Three things that always made me scratch my head:
- All routes have a single rival (except Katarina that apears in two)
- All routes rivals share their element with the capture target (except Katarina[earth] in Geordo[fire] route)
- In 'Verge of destruction' another rival apears and is interested in Geordo and acts like what one would expect from a villainess (Noelia[fire])
I have a theory for that (again i treat Fortune Lover as a video game)
I think in the test/beta version of the game Katarina is the rival in Keith's route and Noelia is the rival in Geordo's route.
But since Katarina would be the sister rival it would overlap in base concept with Sophia and Nicol, and the somewhat similar stage presence of Villain Katarina and Villain Noelia would create another redundancy,
so i assume the developers scrapped Noelia as an character and transfered some of her dialogue to Katarina.
Noelia doesn't apear in the Base isekai because Bakarina apeared before the game started, but she apears in the Verge of destruction because the game already started and Bakarina's apearance glitched the game back to the Beta because it needed someone in the Villain role.
Just a theory
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:31PM CEST
Might be
But That stitl dosen't explain the "Katarina = first love"part
Also i highly doubt That anyone but Katarina can give Maria the necessary confidence
Than again its sometimes suggested That someone Isekaid from Sociar to Katarina's RL
And their maid FL....
BUT Please Explain What do you Think about the Katarina part?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 02:06AM CEST
That is a difficult question, but i will do my best.
Warning it will be a long comment...
Lets start with a simple but complicated question: what makes people fall in love?
- Do they treat you different form everyone else?
- Do you admire something about them?
- Do you just enjoy their company more then usual?
- Do you share a connection with them?
- Do they complete you in a significant whay?
With those questions in mind:
- OG katarina kinda fits on the first, others where moved by envy, self importance or self steem issues , Katarina might have seen OG Maria as a threat to her future, so she was the first to take her seriously and more than just a cute face with undeserved magic.
- That is easy to answer, OG Katarina AND Bakarina are so unapologetic themselves that someone like Maria that works hard to be accepted can admire they carring their hearts on their sleeve.
- That is a hard NO, i fear.
- They have the contrast connetion, Katarina is a proud high rank noble, but has weak magic and worse academics, Maria is a shy humble commoner, but has a rare and powerful magic and excells academically, in short they don't fit exacly in their expected envioment.
- Again OG Katarina and Bakarina have the confidance that Maria lacks, they are proud of themselves despite many believing that outside of their title there is very little to be proud of, Maria has a lot of skills and despite having them she still does't fell that is enough.
Or Maria would fall in love for no reason a all, love is weird.
That wall of text tries to explain why OG Maria would fall for OG Katarina.
But now as to why OG Katarina was the first:
All capture targets didn't take OG Maria seriously, they were dismissive ( Geordo[the see everything grey 'perfect' prince], Nicol[way to focused on his sister], Alan[self steem issues]) or saw her as another petty face (Keith[the flirty playboy]), OG katarina took her seriously, BAD seriously but still.
Because they took longer to open up to OG Maria, any points that require them showing their stories delayed the love route, BUT OG Katarina basically roars what she is about with little regard for anything.
On the begining the "enjoy company" part is on the negative for everyone (including OG katarina) so no point for anyone
Again BOTH OG Katarina and Bakarina are open books, aka easier to understand and relate than the others.
Put all that with OG Maria's unhealty lack of human affection...it's possible.
TL,DR: i belive that is possible that OG Katarina would be OG Maria first crush, not a very healty one but still.
Does that answer the question in a decent way?
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 10:14AM CEST
Yes it dose answer it,
But,if we assume just for moment That it is a fact rather than theory
How exactly would That make you feel emotionally?
And how do you thing OG Maria was feeling about it after everything was sad and done ?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:09PM CEST
Hmm...
There are two Capture targets (Geordo and Keith) and two Endings (Exile and Death)
I will answer both questions depending on the combinations.
-Exile(General)
Disapointed in OG Maria, she doesn't look like the kind of person that would want OG Katarina exiled(or even resent her for that matter), but probably let it go because either she was convinced by her current lover or didn't want to risk put her current situation at risk, but i really belive she will feel guilty(specially in Geordo's route) and really worried for Katarina.
Very Worried/sad for OG Katarina, she got her life ruined and now has to survive in a place she doen't know, since she is a spoiled noble that cant end well. As a bonus, if there was dark magic, it wasn't even her fault at all.
-Exile(Keith)
Angry at OG Keith, while he had fair reasons to hate OG Katarina, saying he went overboard is an undestatment, since he actually had worse before the Claes took him in. And OG Katarina probaly treated him bad because she saw him as proof of her father's infidelity and causing indirect pain to her mother( both undestandable since she was 8 and i belive her mother encoraged her to it).
IF dark magic gave him a push then i feel kinda bad for him too.
-Exile(Geordo)
JUMP OFF A CLIFF, OG Geordo is implied to have little to no care to anyone until OG Maria apeared, aka he used OG Katarina as a tool and i belive that her exile in this case was more to break the engagement without a hit on his reputation and not because of her treatment of OG Maria(because again i dont think Maria would want this).
Even if there was dark magic, he was using and manipulating OG Katarina before any interaction with Sirius, so i repeat...JUMP OFF A CLIFF.
-Death(general)
Feel really bad for OG Maria, she was alone for most of her life, found a first love in OG Katarina that despised her (fairly in Geordo's route), saw said first love DIE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER by the hands of her present love after the former tried to KILL HER, so she will blame HERSELF for Katarina's death, and now her present lover goes in a self imposed exile leaving her totally ALONE AGAIN.
(put that girl on suicide watch, therapy of both geez)
As a bonus (since the murderer left) she will have to endure the repercutions of the nobility alone.
Do i even need to explain OG Katarina...poor girl watched her life being ruined little by little, tried to kill the reason her life was ruined(in her eyes) and said murder atempt wasn't really her choice (dark magic) and then DIED FOR IT. Hope she finds peace...
Death(Keith)
Conflicted between furious and sad for OG Keith, if my memory serves right OG Katarina was killed because he lost control (maybe had dark magic involved) when trying to protect OG Maria.
Dude was tortured in his original home, got a new one where the mother and the older sister didn't treat him well and now he killed his sister and he didn't even mean it. Now he leaves the only one that actually treated him well out of guilt (kinda a dick move on Keith's part but still)
Death(Geordo)
do i even need to go in detail...
Be honest Geordo, you wanted Katarina gone, just not like that because it would reflect bad on you, are you leaving out of guilt or because you are fleeing the consequences.
As a bonus you are leaving Maria behind to deal with the repercution of YOUR actions.
Forget the cliff...JUMP ON A VOLCANO
I guess my opinion in OG Geordo is showing...
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:25PM CEST
That is a very good analysis
And that was what I love,it sounds exactly how I think they would feel,
And yea poor OG Katarina
She really is a good girl at the core
Couldn't blame OG Maria for falling for the Girl
If OG Maria ever becomes so powerful in light Magic that she could see all 3 timeliness from her own Birth to 100 after in one moment, how would she feel about it than ?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:38PM CEST
What do you mean?
OG Maria when?
Before the academy, before the endings or after the endings?
What do you mean?
OG Maria when?
Before the academy, before the endings or after the endings?
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:44PM CEST
Both,
I really liked to here you thoughts about how she'd feel looking both forward and backward
As i like to talk about such things,
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 10:28PM CEST
What the hell...i will do them all ( i think there are 4 timelines)
Before the academy
- Maria would be horrified to see what would happen because of her. But also would know both Keith and Katarina need her help.
She maybe would try to at least clear the air about Keith being Katarina's half brother, then Katarina could apologise, and Maria would try to protect Katarina from Geordo (poor girl needs it) i don't know if katarina would listen to her. I don't see this Maria going for Geordo, she maybe would try her luck with Keith, Katarina or both.
One detail Maria lacks confidence to do it, but she both cares about them and feels like she owes it to them to do her best, and Maria is a hard worker.
Before the endings(Keith's route)
- This time she would try her hardest to convince Keith to leave Katarina alone, or at least not insist on the exile. And would still try to save Katarina from Geordo. I don't see her relationship with Keith being afected in a meanfull way, but i am not sure if she will try to become friends with Katarina, both because she knows Katarina deslikes her now and because she feels like she does't deserve to become katarina's friend.
Before the ending(Geordo's route)
- Again would try to save Katarina, but this time i dont think she herself would feel save around someone like Geordo, even if he does care about her, not sure if the relationship would end but she would be weary of him at least, maybe even try to hold him back on his more malicous tactics to protect others from him.
After the ending(Keith's route - Exile)
- She would try to convince Keith to help her find Katarina or go herself, to at least see if she is ok and if not would assist her even if Katarina refused. Maria would be sad if Keith didn't try to help his sister, but she would understand (and would help Katarina alone)
After the ending (Geordo's route - Exile)
- Again would try to find Katarina, Geordo hardly would help and more so to apease Maria. This has a high chance to put a strain in their relationship. Since this Maria now knows that Geordo didn't gave Katarina the respect she deserved, and now sees a side of the prince she doesn't like.
After the ending (Keith's route - Death)
- Maria would be in a bad place,with extreme guilt and alone, but she would try to find Keith because she knows he is also in a bad place and she feels like she owes to at least stop him from doing something stupid, someone died because of her, she won't let another.
After the ending (Geordo's route - Death)
- By far the worst case for Maria's mental health, Katarina died because of her, and all because she fell for a man that didn't really deserve it.
This Maria has little to fight for now for and needs urgent therapy.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Tue 04 Oct 2022 10:33PM CEST
Good analysis 👍
But I would have liked it more if you had gone more in to how Maria would have feeld about her possible relationship with Katarina in the other timeliness
And yes BURN IN HELL OG Geordo YOU DESPICABLE DISAPPOINTMENT OF A HUMAN BEING AND WASTED MATRIAL OF THE FLAME OF LIFE!!!!!!!
And yes I clearly can se that Maria would try to rescue Katarina and Winn her over no matter the cost...
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:18AM CEST
Oh...my bad, i assumed you meant the game timelines.
Assuming the other timeline was the isekai one.
General
Maria would be confused with some key differences between Bakarina and OG Katarina.
Before the academy and before the Exile endings.
She would try harder to save/befriend OG Katarina because she now knows a more friendly and kind person is in there (since i belive OG Katarina and Bakarina ARE the same person just raised differently and in different envioments)
Still would help OG Keith and maybe score both.
OG Geordo will get some help from her in this case, because now she knows a the is a version of Geordo that can be better person.(Still don't think she would end up with him though)
The biggest impacts (emotionaly wise) would be in the death's endings.
OG Maria would feel even worse than in my other analysis.
In Keith's route - i am not sure if she would try to help OG Keith in his exile here because now she knows she took all the wrong choices and maybe she is now too terrified to make things even worse.
In Geordo's route - This somehow is worse than the previous one. Because now she knows:
1 - OG Katarina was an extremely kind person inside and had things been different would be an amazing friend or maybe more (and died because of her bad choices).
2 - OG Geordo HAD a possibility of becoming a better person and he got worse (again her choices didn't help there)
3 - The rest of the Isekai harem could have become good friends and companions to her (not in this continuity)
In short, knowing what could have been (and won't because of her) would break what is left of OG Maria spirit.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 03:23AM CEST
Oh ! I should have been more clear on that one !
With the 3 time lines i meant Fortun Lover,Verge of doom, sorry
And i agree her soul and generally Personality are the same,
She just hasn't 17 extra years of maturity
And how could the death ending even happen if she has this knowledge before the start
Or even before Katarina's trial Hamefur Maria loves Bakarina
It isn't very clear in verge of doom but in both setting's Maria is definitely happier with Katarina around
Than in all good endings of FL,
So i refuse to believe she would be willing to damned the Woman who is the only one she ever truly loved in all possible timeliness
As the happy ending's in FL don't make her seem all that happy....
But what do you think....?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 04:34AM CEST
I don't discont the death ending because there is a dark mage lurking in the corner.(maria isn't aware of them)
And yes, she is happier with Katarina around indeed.
I think the exile is more of fault of OG Keith ( verge of doom Keith shows his deslike of her, and if dark magic was involved then it would take much)
The Exile in OG Geordo's route had the prince's print all over it, even without dark magic, heck in verge of doom the first think that comes to his mind when Katarina 'changed' is "I can still use her"(...Fk you Geordo...)
The Verge of doom characters the same as the Game counterpart until Bakarina changed them.
As for the endings i don't think "happy" is the right word for OG Maria.
She went from being bullied and alone to finally have a person that cares for her (up from zero) and said person is most likely protecting her from the bullies.
Her life overall improved, BUT only 1 person cares for her so she still lonely and the Katarina issue makes her sad.
So less 'happy' and more 'content' in my opinion.
Its like if someone survived with only water and bread their whole life and now has milk and buttered bread, its and improvement and their are 'content' (but still less than ideal)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:25AM CEST
I get what you mean
But I'm still pretty sure she woul go after Katarina
After learning so much,
And I said she saw everything about all 3 time lines at once
Meaning she has to be aware of Sirius
Because he's clearly shown atleast in Hamefura
Also I'm pretty sure she'd avoid Geordo after knowing what kind a guy he is
Am I wrong?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:42AM CEST
Oh, i though she only saw her perspective of the events.
Not sure about the avoid Geordo part, there is a good chance of that or she could try help him become better(she will not date him though)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:02AM CEST
No I mean she's seeing all the events from outside
She does not get to see their thougt but everything else
And yea,who would want to date that Bastard?
I make a revelation now
I'm a Big Marikata fun so I'm a bit biased
Sorry I should have mentioned that before....
But I really want to hear which kind of Action you think Maria would take,....
I mean I'm pretty sure knowing everything she would be dead set on the Katarina Route, but what do you think....?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:50PM CEST
I can't judge, Maria is my favorite pair with Katarina too.
I also believe she would go for Katarina given the chance.
Now i must also confess my bias.
Maria and Keith is my second favorite pair for Maria (katarina is the first).
So she scoring both is a victory triangle for me.(i also enjoy Keith and Kata)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:18PM CEST
Would you consider a triple Marriage?
Maria,Katarina,Keith ?
I confess i actually dislike Keith a lot
Given what i already told i think you can gues why ?
Given Keith is desperate for love to such a point
And he think's of Maria as the only one who can save him and that he has so many rivals
If she in the middle of it all declared privately that she be willing to choose over all other's but under one condition
He's most likely to accept any condition even if that condition is to make his scorned adoptive Sister a part of the deal.....
That also had the effect that Katarina would still be under the Protection of house Claes
Which would make Geordo unable to harm her in the same way he did with the trial
Something else are now constantly having a discussion in Stranger Wager's comment section
So the least we could do is ask her if she want to take part in or if she even is okay with it,
Do you agree?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:36PM CEST
I would
I didn't notice to be frank, you mentioned Keith directly in one comment prior to this...
Yes he is affection starved as well, and according to Bakarina:
"When he grew up he became quite the playboy in order to bury his loneliness and when he entered the academy, he met the heroine. The heroine healed his lonely heart and became the first person Keith ever truly loved..."
Hamefura Chapter 2
It's not like Keith believed that Maria would save him, it's more like she saved him and them he fell for her.
But i agree that he would accept Katarina in that cenário for three reasons:
1 - Maria saved him so it would be hypocrite of him to not let her save Katarina.
2 - If the misundestanding is cleared and Katarina apologised, he is capable of giving her a chance (verge of destruction shows that).
3 - That would make Maria happy, and maybe that is enough.
I agree with the last part too (this is the longest dicussion i participated in that didn't involve the autor lmao)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Fri 07 Oct 2022 12:36PM CEST
I just informed the Author
I'm happy we can go with that
Assuming Maria successful used her knowledge to get Geordos engagement with Katarina broken and get engaged to both Claes siblings how do you see it go from there?
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Hi, I ship Raphael and Katarina ❤💙
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Today's Beauty-Marked Beauty is: Sora Smith/Rufus Brode from My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom! X
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Hamefura Pokémon AU
This is an idea I have been working for a long while. It was inspired by @dulcito-on-ao3 ‘s fanfic Cute and Fluffy! and @logo-comics Fortune Lover Pokémon DLC prompt.
This crossover is an AU where Fortune Lover was an otome game/pókemon game fusion. Maybe something like Scarlet and Violet where the protagonist goes to the Academy and you can choose one of several storylines to follow. The events of FL 2 could be added to beef up the plot.
Here are some important notes:
Edit: @famousnintendopokemonlamp made a point that it’s odd for Eevee to only bond with mages. I changed that and made it so that they are just rare in the wild.
Edit 2: Switched Sandslash in Keith’s Team for Phanpy since I thought it fitted him better. Added Fidough to Maria’s Team.
Edit 3: Mary’s Tropius is a gift from Alan.
After discussing it with @dulcito-on-ao3 I decided that the setting will be modern but still retaining the noble society elements. Meaning that Sorcier is still a kingdom with nobility but they have access to modern technology like Pokédex’s, Rotom Phones, etc.
The Pokémon take the place of Magical Creatures. Normal animals still exist in this world because I don’t want the implication that humans eat Pokémon.
While Pokémon exist all over this world, they are most common in the Kingdom of Sorcier. Researchers think it’s because Sorcier has more magic than anywhere else so Pokémon are attracted to it - because they are Magical Creatures in this setting.
While magic is still mainly found on nobles, both nobles and commoners can become Pokémon Trainers. But, Pokémon Trained by mages are usually stronger than those Trained by non-mages, especially those Pokémon with typing that are compatible with their Trainer’s magic.
Mages whose Magic Element is compatible to a Pokémon typing can boost the power that Pokémon with their magic.
Eevee is a special Pokémon in Sorcier as they are very rare in the wild, so dedicated breeders exist. Even amongst nobles they are uncommon and are often a regarded as a symbol of great status, especially if they are evolved. The characters who have one are:
Katarina Claes - Shiny Eevee that later evolves into a Shiny Umbreon. Was a gift from her father.
Maria Campbell - regular Eevee that later evolves into an Espeon. By chance she found a wild Eevee and befriended it.
The Princes - Gerald (a small and fluffy Flareon); Alan (a Glaceon): Ian (an Espeon); Geoffrey (a large Vaporeon)
Selena Burke - shy Eevee wearing an Everstone but later gains confidence and evolves into a Sylveon.
Noelia Flores - a Flareon. One of her few evolved Pokémon.
Katarina’s Pokémon know about her past life and support her on her plans to avoid doom.
Katarina remembering her past life is part of a plan that the Legendary Pokémon Ho-oh and Celebi came up with.
Almost all of Katarina’s Pokémon are Shiny. The in-game explanation was to show how privileged and spoiled Villainess Katarina was by having a team consisting of rare Shiny Pokémon.
The Pokémon League equivalent is called The Pokémon Tourney. It was originally exclusive to nobles but for the last 100 years, commoners have been allowed to participate.
Trainers must be at least 15 years old to participate.
To qualify, they need to earn at least eight Honours (aka Badges) by battling against the Arena Champions, the ‘Gym Leaders’ of this setting (Arena Champion comes from Champion/Championne d'Arène, the French term used for Gym Leaders).
The Evil Team is called Team Dark. Members include Marchioness Dieke, Sora (later deserted), and Sarah. Team Dark seeks conquer Sorcier and use Pokémon to rule the world. Most members use Dark Type Pokémon.
This AU is GeoKata endgame, at least with how I’m writing it.
Here are the main Pokémon Teams of the main characters:
Katarina Claes
Shiny Eevee/Shiny Umbreon ♂ (Nickname: Biscuit) - starter/first Pokémon; he evolved into Umbreon after Katarina awakened from her Dark Magic coma.
Shiny Ekans/Shiny Arbok (Nickname: Noodle) - found it injured in her field and nursed to health; represents Katarina’s toy snakes.
Shiny Pumpkaboo/Shiny Gourgeist (Nickname: Pumpkin) - found in the woods near the Royal Villa; represents Katarina’s farming.
Shiny Pawniard/Shiny Bisharp (Nickname: Blue) - gifted by Gerald on her 16th birthday; represents Katarina’s sword fighting.
Poochyena (Nickname: Pochi) - found during the Keith’s Kidnapping equivalent event. This Poochyena has darker fur than a regular Poochyena, being almost black; it is the result of Team Dark’s experiments to empower Dark Type Pokémon; similar to a Shadow Pokémon but without “the door to it’s heart” closed. It represents Katarina’s Dark Magic and canon Pochi.
Absol (Nickname: Vanilla) - found during the equivalent of the mission where Sarah has a Dragon Dark Familiar; represents Katarina’s “knowledge of future events and desire to prevent her doom.
Other Pokémon Katarina has are: Shiny Galarian Yamask found in the ruins used for the practical exam; Shiny Flygon found as a Trapinch during a visit to the Adeth Duchy.
Gerald Stuart
Flareon ♀ (Nickname: Fluffy) - starterfirst Pokémon; smaller and fluffier than the average Flareon, making it extremely cute; knows Scary Face. Represent show Geordo looks like a handsome fairy tale prince but has a hidden, sadistic/scary side.
Bisharp - a knight Pokémon to protect royalty
Aegislash - in reference to Gerald using a sword
Charizard - I thought it would be cool if Gerald rode on this Pokémon.
Litleo - a birthday gift from Katarina; lions are a symbol of royalty
Tyrantrum - another royal Pokémon; red body with golden crest match Gerald's colors
Keith Claes
Tyranitar - starter; originally a Larvitar he befriended before being adopted by the Claes; small Pokémon that grows big and powerful, like how Keith was a timid kid that grew confident
Cottonee - Something small and cute because Keith is so precious
Golurk - a reference to Keith's Earth golems
Garchomp - caught as a Gible during a visit to the Adeth Duchy; a connection with Millidiana who has Dragon-Types
Bonsly/Sudowoodo - another tiny cutie; it grows tall and lanky and looks like a Grass-Type, referencing how Keith helps Katarina with her farm
Phanpy/Donphan - yet another tiny cutie that grows into a powerful Pokémon
Mary Hunt
Lilligant - starter/first Pokémon; an elegant Pokémon and it even wears a flower on its head like Mary
Roserade - another elegant Pokémon
Vespiquen - because Mary is like a queen, plus it is good for her plants
Meganium - another good Pokémon to have in a garden since its breath can revive plants
Tropius - a gift from Alan. I just added this one because it grows fruit on its neck.
Serperior - another regal Pokémon; I think Mary would get a Snivy in response to Katarina getting her Ekans
Alan Stuart
Glaceon ♂ (Nickname: Gliss) - starter/first Pokémon; he chooses to evolve his Eevee into a Glaceon instead of a Vaporeon to stand out.
Gyarados - originally a Magikarp represents how Alan went from feeling inferior to Geordo to finding his strengths.
Lapras - it sings enchanting melodies.
Primarina - a birthday gift from Mary; another Pokémon that sings
Kricketune - another musical Pokémon
Shiny Tyrantrum - a royal Pokémon; the shiny is blue with a silver crest, so the colors match Alan.
Sophia Ascart
Gardevoir - starter/first Pokémon; it has red eyes like Sophia, and it's part Fairy-type representing Sophia’s dream of being a fairy.
Shiny Phantump - red-and-white colors
White Flower Flabebe - white color matches her hair
Togetic - white color; part Flying-type to match her Wind Magic
Clefairy - another fairy; people say this Pokemon came from the moon so it connects to Sophia being a reincarnation from “out of this [Sorcier] world”
Galarian Ponyta/Rapidash - it’s an unicorn! What kind of girl who loves stories wouldn’t want an Unicorn?
Nicol Ascart
Swanna - starter/first Pokémon - swans are beautiful but dangerous; Nicol is gorgeous, and I headcanon that you don't want to make him angry
Noctowl - represents how smart he is
Corviknight - dark plumage like how Nicol has dark hair
Chatot - ironic because Nicol is a quiet person
Liepard - in reference to the dream of being a cat
Shinx - because Nicol dealing with an energetic kitty is funny
I also have this funny idea that Nicol has several other cat Pokémon
Maria Campbell
Sylveon ♀ (Nickname: Caramel) - starter/first Pokémon; wild Pokémon that bonded with her after she discovered her magic. Fairy-Type is the closest thing to Light. (It was originally an Espeon due to it being Umbreon’s counterpart).
Teddiursa (Nickname: Alexander) - meet during Keith’s Kidnapping equivalent event; represent canon Alexander
Audino - a Pokémon used by healers
Pikachu - Maria is the protagonist of FL, like how Ash is Pokémon's
Alcremie (Ruby Cream form) - represents Maria's baking skills; Ruby Cream form because pink is Maria’s color.
Fidough - another representation of Maria’s baking skills, this time bread instead of sweets.
Raphael Walt/Sirius Dieke
Shuppet (Nickname: Orion) - starter/first Pokémon; it was Sirius' Pokémon initially; it knows what happened and bonded with Raphael because it saw how sad and lonely he was. It absorbs negative emotions so it would try to help Raphael.
Phantump - may or may not be the original Sirius Dieke; has some unusual coloration: red leaves and gray eyes.
Sableye - A Dark/Ghost Type to match his Dark magic and how a vengeful spirit possesses him
Mismagius - the spirit of Raphael's mother; has unusual coloring: red accents and gray eyes
Polteageist (Antique Form) - represent his love of tea
Cofagrigus - Dark Mage that killed his mother reborn as this Pokémon
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¡Yo! Sé que no he estado por aquí últimamente, pero hace poco una amiga y yo hicimos maratón de "Akuyaku Reijō Nanode Rasubosu o Katte Mimashita" y "Otome Game no Hametsu Flag Shika Nai Akuyaku Reijō ni Tensei Shiteshimatta" Y salieron éstos garabatos.🤭
Espero pintarlos luego. 😌✌️
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Katarina Claes is the reincarnated character in the video game Fortune Lover. The main characters are Nicol Ascart, Keith Claes, Geordo Stuart, Alan Stuart, Maria Campbell, Sophia Ascart, and Mary Hunt. The series will air in the spring of 2020 and the summer of 2021.
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What I think about shipps in my next life as a Villainess
1 Geordo x Katarina: okay so first the GeoKata my opinion on this is this shipp Is ABUSIVE towards Katarina, let me explain Katarina started in this relationship believing from the start that Geordo is just using her and that he will cheat on her and is willing to actually exil her as well as taking everything she owns from her and even kill her to be with that other girl, and in the beginning that was TRUE, he indeed just wanted to USE her! I know that he changed his mind on that but that started only because she was "different " and worse is that she thinks she "deserve" that for being the "Villainess" Yes she thinks he has "right" to cheat,betray and kill her because of her "Villainess" staus, yes she does stand up to him to protect others, but she does that despite of what he might do to her because she just cares so much for others, she also sees the engagement she has with him as a cruel leash dragging her to her doom and even if she doesn't see like that anymore she did so for 7 years! In which she continuesly asked Geordo to break their engagement, which he refused, to her this relationship made it impossible for her to have any amount of self-respect, I would hate it if Geordo is the one ending up with Katarina since it would basically rewarding him for unintentionally abusing her and the horrible actions of his Original Counterpart, since she will always think it's his right to cheat,betraying and even kill her as long as she sees that as his "right" it's impossible for them to stay as equal to eachother Katarina will always be Geordo's VICTIM as long as she convinced he can treat her how he wants just because she's the Villainess, this would be a Stockholm syndrome situation and this relationship makes it nigh impossible for her to develop any self-respect, and even if she's able to realize that is not his right to do those things to hear she still had to live under this assumption for 7 years! This relationship is not good for her, it prevents from having self-respect, she believes he can treat her as horrible as he wants, there is no way for them to be equal in this relationship and Katarina shouldn't be forced to be with someone who makes her think less of herself I honestly can't believe that people who actually like Katarina are GeoKata fans giving how abusiv it clearly is to her,GeoKata is bad for Katarina's self worth it's bad for her mental health and it's bad for her overall, yeah it's good for Geordo but if you want Katarina to be sacrificed for Geordo like that than your being very unfair to Katarina, Katarina deserves better + Geordo is the one behaving the most like his Original Counterpart treating Katarina like property, his Original self who exiled and murdered Katarina, Katarina DESERVES BETTER.
Katarina x Keith: so I take Katarina x Keith for seconds, after everything I said about GeoKata you probably think I hate this shipp aswell right? Well wrong, I don't like it, but I don't hate it because unlike Geordo Keith has actually made far greater difference between him and his Original Counterpart, further more he has been far more considered of Katarina's boundaries, and Katarina has far less problems building self-respect since they live constantly together and had a clear heart to heart after the Golem incident she believed that nothing of the bad stuff would happen if she's just happen to be supportive there be no Exile killing, so he puts less of a strain on her soul than Geordo dose, and I can see him to be actual treading her right he's even willing to help her with her civil disguise when visiting Maria, and even helping her from staying out of her Mother's radar, so I atleast see he would do his best for her and atleast try to be good for her so he's better than Geordo and they can have a functioning positive relationship
Katarina x Mary: So third is Mary and yes she's a clear yandere with an extremely aggressive personality, but what concerns me about her is that their is clear indication she's actually willing to Kidnapping Katarina without letting her know the situation she's in, therefore I'm not really a fan of it but atleast she doesn't actually has to fear for her life with Mary, so she's atleast better than Geordo.
Alan x Katarina: so I know alot people like this shipp and I'm honestly not a fan of cheating, but again Mary herself is in love with Katarina so I guess it wouldn't be wrong if he understood that hey if he managed to get Katarina and was willing to share Mary would be more than pleased with him, so yeah I also like that they had Sword fights with her and i wanted to see Sword fighting Katarina
Sophia x Katarina: so now we're going to Katarina's Original friend the friend who Reincarnated along side her, A-Chan a lot people would say the fact that Sophia is A-chans Reincarnation and that she's followed Katarina in to the next life makes her a great partner for Katarina right ? I actually have a serious bone to pick with Sophia not despite but BECAUSE she is A-Chan because a have with A-Chan herself because as you all surely remember A-Chan was the one who introduced her to Fortune Lover and also the one who told her what a Terrible "Villainess" Katarina Claes is, which is the main reason why Katarina now believes she doesn't deserve love, yes I said it A-Chan is responsible for Katarina believing she dosen't deserve love, had she been more honest about the story and told her Katarina who is supposed to be the Villainess is less evil than Heroine and the Capture Targets who ruthlessly destroyed her life, that Geordo and Maria and Keith are Morally bankrupt Monsters (even if there's speculation that Maria didn't want it) who had no right to do what they did to her, than Katarina would atleast have been able to understand that she deserved love and just had the bad luck to end up with a very bad partner who doesn't treat her fair, she would have been able to develop both feeling worth of love and self-respect and might actually get out of the toxic hold Geordo had on her and actually being happy with out thinking of herself as the lowest being in the world, and I know that Sophia/A-Chan maybe just wanted to get her in FL, but it's still A-chans fault that Katarina has such a low self esteem, and after all the content we now know that Original Katarina was a pretty good person atleast for Noble Girl standards, so all A-Chan had to do was just tell Her the Truth that Original Geordo, Original Keith and Original Maria were the Selfish Monsters they are and how they literally ricked a trial to unfairly ruin her life steal everything from her and yeah that's something I hope she sets straight in one of those visions.
Nicole x Katarina: The best ship so far, and even though he appears outward similar if Geordo told this Nicole to help him fake documents to get a person exiled who doesn't deserve that he would probably report that to the King and Queen instead of actually partaking in it, he has been very considered and he is a clever person who also has great chemistry with her
Maria x Katarina: The final part of the main Harem, and I never hide that I'm a huge MariKata fan, I know that comes of strange as I very much insist that Geordo Is the most similar to his Original self despite spending the most time with Katarina, well Maria is the opposite, unlike her sneaky, selfish,heartless Original Counterpart, Hamefura Maria is brave, charismatic she doesn't hide behind others like a Coward, when Katarina or her other friends are in danger she sticks up to them, I really think that Hamefura Maria is the best partner for Bakarina, even though Original Maria is a horrible person, and don't come me with "but she just wasn't confident enough to apposed Geordo and/or Keith on Katarina's trial" she clearly didn't felt any remorse about it! Our she would act differently in FL 2
Harem x Katarina: this is one of the view Shows where a Harem ending is deserved.
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Katarina in S1E12
The fact she can tell his tea apart from others-
The way the gentle hand holding has become their signature
The looks they share
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA❤💙❤💙❤💙
Katarina in S2E7
RafaKata goodness 🥰❤💙
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My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom | Tatsuhiko Saiki | From The Bottom of My Heart
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My HameFura OTP 🥺❤💙
his smile!!1 her smile!!! the sweetest
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Hamefura x Pokémon AU Masterpost
#hamefura x pokemon au (tag in chronological order)
Hamefura Pokémon AU (first post; general info of the AU and the main characters’ teams)
Other Teams
Other Teams Part 2
Arena Champions & Pokémon Tourney (Gym Leader and Pokémon League equivalents)
Pokémon Fortune Lover - Gameplay (the premise of the ‘game’)
The Legendaries and the Covenants
Changes Due to Katarina’s Actions
Magic Boosting Mechanic
Random Info
#otome game no hametsu flag shika nai akuyaku reijou ni tensei shiteshimatta#otome game no hametsu flag#my next life as a villainess all routes lead to doom#my next life as a villainess#hamefura#destruction flag otome#hamefura x pokemon au#masterpost
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Whoosh! I've been tagged!
Tagged by @dollystarz
Three Ships:
Shirou Emiya x Rin Tohsaka (Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works)
Absolute OTP. I've been obsessed with this ship since 2014 at an unhealthy degree because the chemistry they have in the VNs is off the charts! I am a sucker for ships where both parties try to protect each other and all. Plus all the tsun moments between them is just Chef's Kiss~
Shinya x Akane (Psycho Pass)
The tension. The drama. The only thing I hate about this ship is the anime directors literally making it impossible for this already implied canon ship to actually be canon. But it's okay I'll just keep watching more of my weird Cyberpunk cop drama anime until I die xD
Giordo x Bakarina (乙女ゲームの破滅フラグしかない悪役令嬢に転生してしまった… / Otome Game no Hametsu Flag shika Nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta...)
This is mostly because I read the manga. I kinda want Giordo to win in the Bakarina harem. I like this pair the best since he was the first one to actually admit his own feelings to her. I prefer it when they don't beat around the bush. Maria is an acceptable alternative ofc
First Ship: I don't remember honestly. My head's a blur when I try to recall fandom related things from 10 years ago or so but if I have to take a gander... Probably Kyon x Nagato Yuki?
Last Song: セイレーンの呼び声 (Siren's Song) by 祖堅 正慶 (Masayoshi Soken)
Last Movie: Barbie Movie
He's just simply Kenough
Currently Watching:
とんでもスキルで異世界放浪メシ (Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi)
Fate/Strange FAKE
Peaky Blinders
Currently Reading: Nothing actually. Quite busy writing my fanfiction project. We're going to Philosopher's Stone this!
Currently Playing:
Final Fantasy XIV Online
Dragon Age: Origins (I'm too broke to afford Baldur's Gate 3 atm)
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Currently Consuming: Copium when looking at my bank account
Currently Craving: A six figure salary job. (I'm poor okay. A woman can dream of financial stability (ಥ﹏ಥ) )
@dollystarz @ariparri @nerdyliv
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