#or if you ship something thats not canon apparently thats a problem?

[pineapplesagainstpizza]

I'm really thinking about deleting Twitter

[samwinchestermydude]

My Supernatural Journey I guess

I actually did go into spn fully expecting to ship Destiel. I came into SPN after watching Merlin, and I had often seen Merthur (my beloved) and Destiel likened together. I barely knew anything about Sam. I only found out that Sam existed because I saw that he was being shipped with his brother on the Ao3 ships polls last year. I didn't know if Sam was important or not because I hadn't seen much content about him. So I ended up calling him the hippie brother mentally.

The only things I thought I knew about Supernatural was that it had some religious stuff in it, Destiel was canon apparently, there were demons and stuff, and John really hated. My impression on Spn was this horror show that was featured this really tough macho dudes but the show was supposedly kind of gay??

I also followed this one person way back for discussing this one video game. They were an ex-supernatural fan way back but left because they found discourse surrounding destiel to be to exhausting. They also used to be a big Sam fan and shipped wincest. I like found the latter to be like really weird back then but man the tides have turned.

So I turned on the Spn pilot with my mom in the same room one day out of sheer boredom. Back then I was still considering Spn as that tumblr show. And then the rest was history, and I lost countless hours of my life obsessing over the show.

So first of all, I only saw one brief glance at Sam before voting for merthur in the wincest vs merthur poll (I'd have probably voted for wincest now lol) so I didn't really know who he was. To me initially he just looked like the 2nd big, gruff dude with long hair. And then I found out that the sweetest looking boy with the floppiest bangs was that guy, Sam.

Also I thought Dean was the younger brother for some reason before watching the show (Probably because Jackles just doesn't age lol). So I was really surprised to see that the little kid in the opening scene was Dean and that the baby was Sam. Oh and I was totally predicting that John died actually in the opening scene and that something else was pretending to be their father lol.

I think I fell in love with the show right away. There was just something really believable and palpable about the brother's estrangement and relationship from the start and I just wanted to see how it developed. S1 is just filled with great horror episodes, and I started watching around October so it was just perfect timing.

So Things that Ended Up Suprising Me the Most/Other Things

I actually ended up really liking John in s1. JDM was just stellar in his all scenes and brought an emotional and sincere side to John. He's tough for sure but he doesn't hide his feelings about his boys. Like you can see the tears in his eyes when they reunite. Also his speech about how he wants Sam and Dean to have normal lives and how he's tired and so broken up after seeing all his friends being killed by meg never fails to hit hard. Do I think John was a good father. No. But he did care about his boys truly. And while I do understand Fandom's widespread dislike of John it is disheartening to see him reduced to this unfeeling caricature. John's problem wasn't that he felt too little; it was that he felt to much and he never really properly managed it and it ended up hurting the his boys.

I thought Meg and Sam would maybe end up being a thing and was like :(((( (because I just liked the bros being by themselves even though I wasn't a wincest shipper at the time lol) but I was also like go Sam if thats what you want ig? Lmao Idk I just wanted Sam to be happy even back then. Anyways thank god that never happened.

Me falling in love with Sam.

Dean. I always saw a lot about him but never found myself to interested in him as all I saw was Destiel content with him. But I ended up falling in love with his character so hard in Devil's trap. When he begs John not to kill him :(((((((((. I think Devil's trap is one of my favorite episodes for Dean. It's when I started to understand him and his loyalty to his family really touched me.

1x22 was also the episode that convinced me SPN was going to be a insane show. Like what a season finale. I feel so bad for the fans who had to wait to watch s2. I actually jumped up and said it ends like that?! The car scared me so bad.

Around s2 I set my foot in the wincest fandom. Back then I thought you guys were scary but in a good way. But I was also getting really into the codependency at the time so I found myself starting to seek wincest out because well you guys just get it. And then Dean sold his soul for Sam and I looked up wincest fic for the first time with the intent to read fic about wincest. Before it was reading wincest fic despite the wincest and then well all hell blew loose (sorry I just had to).

First wincest fic I read: half the man i used to be by dollylux. I wasn't exactly a wincest shipper then. But I thought it was fucked up and strangely fitting to Sam and Dean's relationship and fucked up lives. It was probably the fic that got me into wincest.

I had a bit of an internal rule I set for myself back then where I could only read Wincest fics that were about them being in a fucked and toxic relationship because I felt bad reading fics about an incest ship. So I guess in my mind it cancelled out because then I thought then I wasn't romanticizing the incest lol. Idgaf now. I read anything about Sam/Dean if it's good.

When You're Not Here by raziella was the 2nd wincest fic I read. I read it because it's pretty much gen but it does have some wincest leanings. It's a really good fic.

I gave up Destiel even before s4. It was around in S3 after seeing Sam slowly go insane that I realized I wanted nothing more than the two brothers together.

I just realized that even if Destiel was canon or not nothing could be as important to Dean than Sam was and vice versa for Sam.

I actually was anxious about s4 because I didn't want the show to change that much and drift from the focus on the brothers.

S4 and s5 were really difficult to go through for me. I thought they were great television but it was too painful. I felt horrible seeing what happened to the brothers and how they drifted apart.

S4 Sam hair was probably my favorite.

[justapersonherelol]

my thoughts on what I believe is the three top Lucifer ships

Adamsapple/Guitarduck:

Starting off on an unrelated note, MY GOD, ADAMSAPPLE??? THATS SO CREATIVE OML

I like it! The ship is simple, it has great chemistry and sets up great angst potential for the ship, especially with the heavy theory that Adam will turn up as a sinner for season two. Also, it’s heavily implied that Lucifer has done the horizontal tango with two of the og humans, so why not make it all three and finish up his collection? Adding onto that, they could have a great relationship as awkward exes from their time in Eden Garden, and man Lucifer has a crap ton of autistic rizz.

however, that’s the problem. I can only see them as exes. I mean, Lucifer didn’t seem to have any leftover attachment to Adam when he died, and ultimately did choose Lilith over Adam. Also, Adam has Lute now, and objectively has a healthier potential romance than him and Lucifer.

So, I like the ship and honestly go ahead (I say that with all three ships lol, ship what you want as long as you don’t force it onto others) but it’s not really one for me.

Radioapple:

Okay… I ship this.

it’s just a really silly ship and I really like their dynamic already!

HOWEVER, I don’t want this to become canon. I ship this only fanonly, and I like aroace Alastor NOT ending up with anyone, because currently Alastor thinks he hasn’t found the right person yet, and him falling in love with Alastor would actually kinda undermine the whole self discovery of asexualism/aromanticism in the first place! Yes, making him fall in love with Lucifer AFTER his whole sexuality discovery thing could really be impactful to the audience as a way to show what a aromatic or asexual person could experience, but I don’t want the show to be centered around Alastor, and if they added all of that while still balancing every single character development, the show would just be too long.

Lucilith:

oh boy do I have a crap ton of stuff to say about THIS ONE.

It’s the canon ship. The main characters parents. LUCIFER LITERALLY WENT TO HELL FOR LILITH, Lucifer is DEFINITELY the bottom and we have an IMPECCABLE height difference, we LOVE TO SEE THE SHORT KING WITH HIS 190-something CM WIFE. Who’s ALSO THE MOST BADASS WOMAN IVE SEEN. LIKE, GURL, STEP ON ME 🔥🔥🔥

But… Liliths been gone for seven years. She left her husband and her daughter. Lilith also is shown to be taking Charlie away from Lucifer in that one scene, causing him to fall into his depression… do you really love your husband if you leave him? Taking your daughter with you? And she doesn’t look good right now, because apparently she’s in Heaven? Perhaps she made a deal with them? It’s just.. really sad.. and sadly, i see the similarities to some parents.

Some parents fell out of love but refuse to divorce because of their children or tradition. It’s common and depressing, and often ends up worse than if they had just divorced. They fight and give each other snarky as comments, put each other down and take the other away from their child because they treat them to be a bad influence or something? And I think that’s what we see with Lucifer and Lilith right now. They were together for who knows how long, and Lilith was young. Who knows how old Lucifer is. Maybe… they were young, they did rash things, and swore they were going to love each other forever, but puppy love just doesn’t last forever. Lucifer might still love her and abandoned everything FOR her, but Lilith might have used him as a first love, an ex. Since most of Hazbin hotels audience are young adults… it could be a good idea to display the fact that not all love lasts forever. They could fall of out of love. Eternal love, while sweet, is foolish. All couples also have their ups and downs, and Lucifer and Lilith not having those just sounds wrong, yknow?

Lucifer deserves better than a relationship where they share mutual hatred but stay together for the sake of a child. Sometimes, divorce is the best option, whether you like it or not.

[carnalcervid]

(22, FTM here) // I know this is weird but I redownloaded tumblr just to find someone freaky af on here to confess to. it’s eating me alive and I genuinely have no one I can tell so I hope you’re okay with this (ignore if not and I’m sorry, btw this isn’t some “hot confession” this is something that’s bothering me)

this is about to be REALLY strange, but again I have to tell someone. I have been watching rick and morty every night before bed, and idk if you���ve ever seen the show, but it has a crazy amount of incest “jokes.” it’s so abundant it’s one of the main complaints about the show.

there’s a lot of incest in the show, mostly about r&m. they literally fuck each other with a sex dragon during a “soul bond” and in another scene they marry in a different, yet canon, reality. apparently when justin roiland was still around, him and the other co-creator both tweeted and said they approve of and even encourage the r&m ship, and said they might make an episode on it in the future (they even said it was canon in several different realities) and it’s hinted at A LOT in the show, like a lot.

there are some fucked up scenes too that try to be passed off as a joke but they’re clearly someone’s fetish or something (think dan schneider putting feet in so many shows/episodes “as a joke/to be funny”)

well… one of the most disgusting scenes actually turned me on a little and I’ve been struggling with it since. I’m not into incest, and even was touched as a kid by my brother. like, I’m not into incest or the roleplay incest at all, and of course I’m not into anything underage either. I know it’s just a cartoon, it’s not like any of it was real, but I’m still really conflicted.

there’s a scene where r&m have sentient facehugger aliens on their faces that control them, and the two aliens fall in love together, and start passionately making out. it was literally r&m making out but they had an alien facemask on, and again this is the type of humor in r&m that’s supposed to “be a joke,” meanwhile it’s turning me on and then making me feel ashamed of myself.

can you… offer advice? or anything at all? is this…okay? I don’t know how to end this confession. I’m sorry if I made you uncomfortable at all, and again, you don’t have to answer this (obviously, it’s your blog you can do what you want).

-🎪

i feel like this touches on very genuine issues ive thought about before.

first off, it really is okay to be aroused by something and not like it, not want to participate in it, and not want to be aroused by it again. i feel like that both goes without saying and needed to be said just in case

however. what do you do when a piece media arouses you in a way you don't like, and also when that media is doing it intentionally.

it is genuinely only natural to be drawn towards taboo, in reality and in fiction, and most kinks and feitshes are a form of power exchange, or some kind of attraction. it can be helpful to break down your arousal into broader categories to find out specifically why it's arousing and reassure yourself that you like it because its a similar dynamic to your already existing kinks, and not because youre a bad person who wants genuinely bad and harmful things.

however. even though r&m is fictional. even though its okay to be aroused by these topics and not want it. to me, whats happening is that you're getting ready for bed with a TV show, and instead are being shown trigger porn for various feitshes. especially with the creators explicitly saying thats what theyre doing. and personally i don't think its fair for the creators to do this. just the same as dan schneider putting feet in so many shows/episodes - it's not fair to create a piece of media for regular viewing and then fill it with their personal fetishes. (unrelated, but i just had this exact problem with the anime hunterxhunter)

i fully believe creators are allowed to do whatever they want with their creation, but also when the biggest complaint about the series is the fact that the creator is doing whatever they want with their creation. they're probably showing it to the wrong audience, or doing something shitty lol

It's different when the eroticism has a point in the media, but these "as a joke" type insertions usually just make no sense and are really uncomfortable for viewers to have to sit through. i only ever saw the first 3 seasons as they came out before deciding i no longer can watch it because it just makes me uncomfortable in various ways i dont fully remember because its been so long.

my recommendation is that, if you can't view the media without being like "okay we get it your have a [insert thing here] fetish can we move on", and if its genuinely bothering you because you can't compartmentalize your reaction to it (for example, knowing its something arousing but not being interested in it), i would stop watching the media. at this point its clear that these topics will be heavily featured in the series, and that doesnt mean anyone who's watching wants or expects that, just that. it's something youll have to sit through if you're trying to enjoy the show.

[byersfanclub]

^^^ this is exactly it. byler is not only crucial for will’s character to have a happy ending, but it’s crucial for mike’s entire character arc/storyline. mike goes from being as close as can be to will, without el in the picture, to suddenly trying to separate himself from him as much as possible. mike being unable to maintain a romantic relationship with el and his friendship with will simultaneously is SHOWN to us. we aren’t being told WHY though, but we can infer. (show not tell :3)

byler not being canon completely diminishes any logical reason for mike acting the way he did, and i don’t just mean him being a dick to will at times, but for reasons like him choosing to bike out in the pouring rain to apologize immediately after upsetting will, but not doing the same when he upset el after max hints that mike will come crawling back to el. people forget script writing is an ART. that line wasn’t thrown in there for no reason, it was put there to show us that mike won’t go crawling back to el, but he sure as hell will go crawling back to will.

it also diminishes the entire beginning of season 4. mike has no reason to be acting so awkward and weird towards will. they made up in s3, they had a quote “good” ending in s3 minus the whole will moving away thing. why would mike suddenly be acting like will isn’t his best friend after 6 months? well because el suddenly decided that her and mike were back together at the very end of s3, right after mike and will’s conversation. the entire ending monologue from hopper not only shows but tells us that mike is going through something major. mike spent 6 months depressed over will being gone, repressing himself completely back into the closet by busying himself with letters to el, assumed will didn’t want to talk to him because the conversations were probably short and awkward (but mike was willing to spend the money to call anyways) and after all this time, seeing will in person sent him into panic mode. which is also bitch mode apparently. best solution? ignore the problem and be defensive when called out on it. (well maybe you should have reached out more! shes my girlfriend will! we’re FRIENDS!)

it doesn’t help that while we have these, mike is also unable to say he loves his girlfriend. he’s unwilling to voice this to anyone, because if he did he’d be faced with “why?” and deep down mike knows why. when faced with an upset, crying el, he still can’t bring himself to say it, or at least give her a reason why. he gets defensive. still refuses. el realizes that mike is never going to say it or he’s never going to mean it (romantically). (i could into el realizing she never loved mike either at nina and their relationship was always a lost cause but thats a whole other post)

mike and will also consistently throughout the show have romantic-coded scenes while mike and el’s are reduced to grossly making out and, one middle school dance scene, and a handful of moments in between that i daresay could be even considered “cute” moments. nothing deep. nothing serious. nothing that truly bonds them or shows their connection as people. meanwhile we have byler scenes like:

mike noticing will isnt at school first

mike seeing will’s “dead” body and becoming vehemently upset over this.

mike doing everything he can to find will.

mike being the first to run and hug will in the hospital.

ALL OF SEASON 2 BYLER

byler lumax double date coded scene

byler fight that is breakup coded right after m1levens funny, lighthearted “dump your ass” scene

again mike biking in the rain to apologize to will

bylers ending conversation in s3 (what if you want to join another party?)

byler having another couple coded fight at rink o mania

byler literally flirting in jonathans room

byler apology scene in will’s room s4

THE VAN SCENE

the coupled ending of s4

in the end, mike ending up with el in the end is lazy writing, not because it’s straight ship, not because i even dislike the ship, but because they have the poorest, least interesting, laziest writing for their relationship in comparison to jopper, jancy lumax and even duzie. even the GA doesnt care for m1leven, that’s a fact just from how many ppl posted abt how boring they are after s4 dropped, its actually hilarious how much no one cares about them besides m1leven shippers and reddit bros. ive said it once before, m1leven would have been fantastic if they’d been written a slow burn romance and actually had the effort put into their romance story.

mike ending up with will completes a lot of holes in mikes character. it also gives him reasoning for acting the way he did throughout the show. it tells us you don’t have to be bullied the way will was to still grow up with the queer experience. that even if mike doesn’t outwardly express more feminine traits like will, that he can still be gay and how the gay experience varies entirely from will’s to his own (being an only son between two sisters in a traditional conservative family) and how scary that can be.

byler is the best ending for not only will’s sake but for mike’s entire character as a whole.

if byler isn’t canon the mike pulling away storyline literally makes zero sense for his character because how does a he go from season 1 and 2 mike who would do anything for will to not even being able to play dnd or hug him.

[batarangsoundsdumb]

guess fucking what? my inbox is so fucking full right now i'm unloading all of this shit in one post.

For the 11th gotham memes: gothamites react to bruce being jacked in a tiktok he made with kids, like super yoked, ripped as hell

fucking hilarious thanks. i think i did it in one meme post, but i genuinely don't remember which one

i dunno which of the batfam would do this but one time i was sleeping over at a friends house and ended up on the floor bc the bed was so very small and i just stayed there because the rug was soft

that's a drunk jason move i don't know what to tell you

tim and jason are "i listen to pop punk" solidarity. whenever jason highjacks the batmobile theyll go on long ass car rides blaring mcr and paramore and then never talk about it again

as they should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tim: no jason it's my turn using the aux cord i gotta put on my jams jason: don't you dare put on weird shit tim: don't worry, you're gonna love this *plays fearless (taylor's version)

hear me out hear me out, red hood stans 🤝 nightwing stans t h i g h s

holy shit yes.

SNL au: Bruce breaks character when pretending to superman and says something like "I'm not superman! You've seen his gps!! It's from 2001!!!" @sabeanybabe

superman flies past the snl building the next day just to say 'actually it's from 2005, i'm not a heathen'

does your back hurt from carrying the batfam fandom

it hurts more from the exotic rock collection i keep in my backpack, but thanks for the concern.

I love your posts by why would you always leave the best parts in the tags?

as a treat for the people that check the tags ;) (and also because i'm committed to the short post aesthetic)

somehow your playlist was everything i never knew i needed. i mean it. this is my new favorite playlist.

and don't you dare get a new favourite playlist!

babe ur stoner tim playlist is exactly too perfect, earth is literally blessed by ur existence

babe thanks so much! i love my stoner tim playlist because it's just my usual playlist but people think it's an artistic choice that i put taylor swift and britney spears in there, when it's just what i unironically like listening to

JANDKSKDK BILLY RAY CYRUS ON THE STONER TIM PLAYLIST I LOVE IT IT

again it's not even an ironic choice, i know every single word and i genuinely like the song

The last chapter of Fundamentals of Casework has me crying at work. Thanks I love it @dudelookitsalesbian

oh babe, i'm sorry, but also, not sorry i love chapter 4 so much it's my lovechild with the 'mental illness' tag

soooo....stumbled on your tumblr by some stroke of fate??? read your DC fanfic first. which is PHENOMENAL btw. then found all the batmemes; the funniest thing EVER bc everyone forgets about regular old gothamites. kept scrolling and your blog pops up as recommended. clicked on the ao3 for shits and giggles and waddaya know?!?!? it's YOU!!! you're LEGEND!!!! ever seen that meme? it's a video of a cat that got into a baseball field and the two announcers get really invested in his escape attempt and start giving a play by play of the cat instead of the game. memeable moment: "GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!"

i seriously think about this ask every single day and it's so fucking funny to me that i've never seen the meme you're referencing, but i still find myself going 'GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!' whenever i see something funny. but wow i'm glad you liked this steaming pile of garbage

Fav dc character overall? And fav batfamily character?

don't ask me to pick between the loves of my life, but i can tell you i've cried about every single batfamily member and also wally west (my beloved)

What's your opinion on fans having a problem with batfam being "too big"? And some even claim that batfam is just "Bruce Alfred Dick Damian" and the rest of them are just "friends and allies" (source: reddit) Personally, I like batfam because of this reason but idk

stupid. a family can never be too big. i'm not that big a fan of like huge batfam stuff with everybody from every single universe, because as much as it's funny for bruce to have like 30 kids, it just feels a little too OOC for me.

This is the best tag I've seen involving the batfam, thanks for thinking of it

This is canon now @nctxrejects

lmao yeah i think at that point alfred has had to sit through like at least a dozen coming out talks and just has a pride flag collection in the attic that he pulls out whenever a kid comes out

idk why batfam hits different as compared to any other superhero family

bc it's found family and usually the other superhero families are almost all genetically related in one way or another

I don't know if you watch the umbrella academy but I saw your last post about batcest and saw the similarities. But the thing is (although I think it's weird) in TUA, they addressed it by saying "they were raised as weapons, not siblings" or something along those lines, which is simply not the case with batfam.

yeah i watched tua but i also thought it was ridiculous and they still treated each other as siblings so i didn't like the luthor/allison thing, and am glad they stopped doing that shit bc it fucking sucked.

Hot take: Batcest shippers are the same people who believe adopted siblings are not actual siblings

smoking hot take: batcest shippers are the people who watch 'my sister got stuck in the washing machine' porn

Duke was adopted by Bruce?

not technically no, but do i, tumblr user batarangsoundsdumb, look like i care?

True story but I had to change my freaking name because it used to be "Damien" and most people would go "OH LIKE DAMIAN WAYNE" like please I'm just tryna live

true story, but i don't actually think of damian when i hear the name damian, literally the first thing that pops up is damian darkh like bruh what?

apparently dc comics company supported comic stores by giving out new titles and stuff during the beginning of the pandemic to help them run and I just think that's wholesome

ah yeah that's so fucking cool, still don't like dc, the company, because this world is a capitalist hellhole and we're all owned by warner brothers or disney with no in between.

ayo looking at tumblr head canons and finding out bruce is actually a terrible father is a punch in the gut

lmao yes, in like 50% of comics bruce is a terrible father and it gives me whiplash

oooh I just saw the jason todd vs winter soldier post and the real question is: batman vs iron man

while iron man has like hundreds of cases of armor, batman could throw out an emp and have the guy dropping out of the sky in 2 seconds.

dickfast = fastdick = quickdick = quickie

magnum hot take

hey bata(?) just thought I'd let you know I have copied the obnoxious emoji and Billy Ray post for use on simping men going forth

thank you 😘🌷 (@spacebarsidecar)

why would you do that to your followers???? i get why i did it, but why would you???

what is scarecrow made the nightwing funko pop himself, like those diy-ers that paint over other ones

oh god no, horrible take, horrible take, that's a disgusting thought oh no

I see your HC that Bruce and Oliver fucked and raise you this: Dick and Roy ALSO fucked

yes they did and it was a horrible moment for jason to find out dick has fucked both of his best friends

"at this rate bruce adds like 1 child to his family every decade or so" Duke is introduced in 2013, Damian as Damian, not as an unnamed child, in 2006. And he is already 14 years old, Robins rarely remain Robins after 16 😬 It looks like a new Robin and Batkid will appear in a couple of years

i mean i can't wait? but somebody will probably die first tho, we're due for another major character death. my money's on either cass or duke this time.

BRO you're so right all of your Bruce's ex headcanons are amazing but they aren't ships, that's kinda wild. Like I don't want any peeks into how their relationship was I just want to see everyone make fun of them

lmao YES it's just i love bruce being a slut, like good for him.

I am in love with your posts your honour thank you

omg thanks are we like,, gonna kiss now?

The justice league needs to have a meeting to discuss how many of their members/partners have slept with bruce. Because through a combination of cannon & fannon (if DC wasn’t homophobic) we have AT LEAST: 1) clark 2) lois 3) oliver 4) dinah 5) john

Thats not counting villains or random civilians @dudelookitsalesbian

yes yes yes, they'll have a yearly meeting about how many of their collective exes could be out for revenge and batman's list just keeps getting longer.

tim was like "i'm drake now" and everyone was like ahh so your fursona is a dragon and tim was like pffffft no. ducks.

and what about it?

when steph's fighting livewire and she zaps her with lighting and nothing happens and then they both just. stand there awkwardly for a second and talk. yeah i couldn't stop laughing at that batgirl steph is the BEST

oh yeah that was fucking hilarious and i think it would be so cool and sexy of dc to give steph a little comic series,,, as a treat

Hi I absolutely adore all of yours "Bruce and Oliver very badly pretending they didn't fuck each other" memes

lmao i do too

I need you to know that “Bruce Wayne had frosted tips” is one of my favorite Bruce takes of all time it’s so galaxy brained. you’re right and you should say it

he also painted his hair blonde once when he was travelling and in conclusion, this is why he's being blackmailed by the gotham gazette.

you know my thing about gordon being branded as the only good cop in gotham is its a load of shit like arguably he's a good person and not working to screw people over or anything but the fact that he also works w. batman makes him a shit cop. like yea batman is better than the mob but its still illegal its still an abuse of power he just not making bank

babe, all cops are bad cops. (but yeah youre absolutely right, working with vigilantes makes you a shit cop, but also working against vigilantes just makes you an asshole cop yanno?)

ruh roh i think i’m about to add “so not yeehaw” every time i don’t like something

that's a very good vocabulary upgrade

somehow i feel like steph already knew. like babs obviously knew but i feel like bruce got high/drunk in front of steph and started telling his boarding school stories and steph was just like “oh you fucked up i’m never gonna forget this”

steph and bruce have weird uncle/rebellious niece dynamic and they just hang out sometimes and bruce will be like 'i once broke my arm when i tripped over a hedge when i was drunk so oliver drove me to the hospital on an electric scooter' and steph will just have to sit there with that knowledge in her head.

Hello I just wanted to tell you you are So right in all your steph opinions bc she is, in fact amazing and I think that's very sexy of you. Ps. Your Bruce/Oliver fic is hilarious

babe, thank you so much and yes steph is amazing and i love her and she deserves the world and she's the best member of the batfam hands down. also thanks

In Supersons we see a couple of kids that are implied to be Damian and Jon's children and the boy has laser eyes and can fly, so I asume he's not adopted. The girl, who calls Bruce grandpa, can also fly, btw. So it's canon (probably by accident) that Jon can have kids and he must have married one of Bruce's kids. (I'm hoping for Damian, mostly because any other of his children would be waaaaaaaaaaaaay too old.) @artemisa97

lmao that was probably an accident seeing as jon is a 17 year old superhero in the year 3000 (by the jonas brothers)

You know, I'm a die hard fan of your memes, but I gotta say one thing: if Gothamites actually took gas mask everywhere with them, then the Scarecrow would just be a weird dude in a weird costume, and not a villain oh so scary. DC really should just takes notes from you.

bold of you to assume there's no gothamite anti-maskers

How does it feel being the funniest person on this app?

horrible, next question.

I can't listen to Green Day or Billy Joel without thinking of your post about how Bruce got arrested at a Billy Joel concert @nightwings-kid

yeah that's your mistake, i on the other hand can't enjoy billy joel without thinking about the glee rendition of 'uptown girl'

I've FINALLY been watching the Batman animated series and I gotta say, after watching "the gray ghost" I am CONVINCED that Batman is a closeted super hero geek who was 100% freaking out the first time he met Superman and is just REALLY good at hiding it.

superman: so what do you do in your free time? batman, thinking about the superman fanfiction he's writing on the batcomputer: i have no free time

bruce and oliver be like boyfriends to co-workers 401k (do the justice leagues get 401ks??? not that bruce and ollie would need them, but-)

lmao yes just 400 thousand words of bruce realising 'oh dip oliver is such a fucking dumbass' (also i don't know what a 401 k is but i assume they don't?)

Gothamites would totally boo superman as he saves Gotham while batman is out. @meenje

he's like 'okay think about that next time you want to be saved from an alien octopus'

I just took long break from dc comics and I come back to see ric grayson ??

i think it's very cool and sexy of dc to see dick and just think 'you know what? let's just give him a traumatic brain injury' and then didn't develop his character in any real way

SPEAKING OF RIC GRAYSON, gothamites making confused memes out of ric grayson is much needed

'dick grayson is my taxi driver? can anyone explain what the fuck happened he looks like an italian plumber?'

i hate to say it but batfam are def "marvel characters" in that sense they are characters who are human but become superheroes unlike most dc characters who are gods trying to be human maybe this is why I like batfam

fair enough

[reasoncourt]

Sursh I have to defend the original Star Wars trilogy which is in fact good and fun!! Kind of stupid but that’s part of why it’s so much fun. It has Chewbacca and Leia in the gold bikini (and also she gets to choke out the slug mf who put her in the bikini ❤️), the Darth Vader character arc is actually pretty interesting, Luke is kind of milquetoast imo but I think the Han-Leia and Han-Luke dynamics are a lot of fun. (Crotchety old man gets stuck with two people with magic space powers he doesn’t want to believe in that drive him bonkers). Also that post about how Han and Luke and Leia each believe they’re the voice of reason when in fact none of them are is very very true. Leia is pretty badass (thank you Carrie Fisher bc the original writing for her was apparently Not Great and Carrie fixed her ❤️). The Ewoks are kinda cute. Threepio and R2 are iconic ❤️ Idk this isn’t my best pitch but it is a lot of fun and I do still love those movies despite everything else thats happened with the fan base franchise!!! They should have just stopped after Return of the Jedi and they wouldnt have these problems 😭

(Also a lot of the Expanded Universe novels are actually pretty good, which is why I’m so mad they didn’t just use either the Zahn trilogy or the Bloodlines series as the basis for the new movies….. they were right there!!! They were so good!!! So in my mind those are canon and not the new trilogy)

for you brenna i will watch the original trilogy. at this point not watching them has basically just been me committing to the bit. i swore when i was 5 or something that i would never sit through it because my brother was really into it. same with the bourne trilogy. but i dont think he’s been into star wars for 15 years.... so can i really claim it’s the principle of it?..probably not

even though i have no star wars knowledge, though, i have always loved han and leia. how? idk. i think i wandered in while my family was watching it. and i used to love indiana jones. and carrie fisher is carrie fisher. who knows why. but invoking them has convinced me. i do need to see the story behind what i’ve shipped all my life

the only scene i remember seeing of star wars is when vader cuts off luke’s hand (if that doesn’t happen, ignore me, maybe it was a simpson’s episode)

also.. the star wars fanbase does seem v intense ... i will say that

[cringelordofchaos]

OK. uhmmmmm. Im a muktishipeor so I pretty much ship anything legal. which is a bit concerning so I'm just gonna make a "quick" list.

(the only thing saving this post from being incapable of being read is my autocorrect)

exclusively romantic: (I like them only in a romantic context)(I guess?m)

luke x Zander - very obvious I know ist a popular canon ship but I rlly don't csre they kinda remind me of me and my bff except my bff os questuonign if theyre aroace do uh yeha. also zander needs happiness

Luke x Stacy - b4 you kill me. UHM. there was one anon on tmf-confessions that said that if lacy/stuke bexsme cabon it would allow xanders character to flourish in interesting eays. theres no other reason ehy i even think of this pairing rlly. mayhaos judt for the angst

Elliot x Milly: another super basic ship. ik. but I like them bc of their parallels. They're the opposites attract trope but they also have Similiarities. they both got bullied (Elliot is shown to b bullied in the background of the ep3 glmv) but they probably dealt w it in different ways. Milly is much more confrontational bc she was willing to stand uo to her trauma y'know. Elliot is this really reserves shy uwu insomniac gnc femboy and Milly is this really extroverted outgoing chaotic gremlin energetic gnc tomboy. honestly know that I think of it I wouldn't mind the, being plstonic either but k prefer them romantic.

Mia x willow - recurring background lesbians. thats it

one sided Drew x Jake -anoher super basic one I know but you cannot tell me

both romantic + platonic (oo boy this might get a bit long)

Sadie x daisy - prep x goth. dark academia or whatever it's called x light something. Sun x moon. Extrovert x introvert. Opposing color schemes and personalities. Sadie unintentionally intimidates others while trying to b polite so everyone misinterprets her as a person and everyone thinks daisy is a perfect ray of sunshine but oh god she can be intimidating too when needed. they are both extremely polite and nice and like to help other ppl out (it's more obvious in daisy's case but it's true for Sadie too). no energy x a ton of positive energy. literal definition of opposites attract. light x dark. they r literally canon idc. Adaisy is probably one of he only people who actually take their time to understand and get to know Sadie better instead of just assume things Abt her. Sadie probably doesn't have any other friends beside daisy. yin and yang. black and white. I cljdk go on

Sean x daisy - they're so sweet and understand each other so we'll and parallel each other and they're both the sweetest people alive combined together they're an unstoppable force of cinnamon rolling. Daisy is usually the one that helps brighten up other people's lives but in this case it's Sean who finally helped daisy out. just by letting her talk out her problems and making her feel listened to and cared for. they comfort each other. blue daisies (daisies clothing+ Sean's hoodie) symbolize (apparently) deep understanding or sumth like that and it FITS. I literally love them sk much both romantically and platonically (but moreso platonically) YES I KNKW THEYRE ANOTHER BASIC OAIRING IDC LEMMe LIVE)

Haikey x Lia - thy are literal toxic Yuri exes. I could go on a whole rant but I think you get it. Idk though. I want them to reconcile in season 2 and I think they will though it's probably won't be all that simple.

Hailey x Jake - character parallels? Nothing can go wring w that, honestly I find hem extremely cringe on screen at times and a bit too heterosexual but ig they have chemistry? Tjough I love to see them as friends too if not downright prefer it. They can kinda get annoying to me personally but k do like them.

Henry x Liam - they literally serve no real purpose but to add slight flavour to the series and k ,lce them so much for it. they are literally always beside each other and canonically read each other's minds. you literally can't have one without the other, DO NOT SEPARATE THEM. I am serious I ,ove them they work well actually . dumbasses in love

Lia x Zoey - toxic broken up now probably one sided yuri can never go wrong

max x jakey - "hi jakey~~" oh so max is gay for him? noted. ok but max is NOT straight. he definitely adores Jake. Idc

Max x Damien (the. gray?? One.) - random I know but k saw one yt video of them and I like it.

Exclusively platonic::

Lia n drew - they parallel each other and their feelings for Jake

daisy n jake - losten like I just love them now daisy helped kut

Zoey n drew - IF ONLY. they could've been the badass mlm/wlw solidarity/hostility. but NO. although their relationship was like super toxic bc of multiple stuff I still kind of like looking at it? like at how messed up it is?

DREW N DAISY - head girl and headboy. opposing personalities. drew might have complicated feelings regarding daisy bc of the whole music club situation but I'm sure that situation could improve. a lesbian and a gay man mind you. "She could fix him" incredibly basic ik but idc. they're also Similiar but different as to how they impacted Jakes early life. I could go on ikkkkkk but I'm too lazy tooooooo and too stupid and I'm gonna have a breakdown soon anyway

MILLY N ZANDER!!! they are literally the silliest bickering duo every single time they interact they just fight and I love to see it

Zander n jake - thumbs up emoji

Milly n Henry - IMAGINE. literal embodiments of chaotic ADHD gremlings. put them together and they cause more chaos. one of them is obviously jch more intimidating. the other one is obviously much dumber. I know Milly prolly hates him with every fiber being of her soul but

Milly n jake - thumbs up emoji number 2

Milly n haikey - I just think they're neat

The jomies n stacy - they all go on the same Minecraft server sometimes change my kind oh wait you cant

Henry n Lia - yes.

Bethany n Milo - they r little kids and have canonically talked to each other in the background of ep11 and I now proclaim them the bestest friends of all time that ruin their older siblings lives together.

Stacy n drew -- both deal with unrequited love. pls let them interact sodjeikdc.

RAREPAIRS (some Platonic some romantic some both):

sadie x lia. listen this might not make any sense but. basically it's "previously popular mean girl who tried her hardest to fit in and be liked and loved back and who changed herself to impress others" x "scary disliked probably super unpopular girl who even tjough has to deal w ppl finding her scary or weird on a daily basis even tjough she's really polite she still doesn't change who she is or her style and still says true to herself (I know it's mostly headcanons but idc). mayhaps Sadie could help Lia recognize herself and inspire her to be herself. idk where in going w this. idk

lia x daisy: honestly just put daisy x Lia x Sadie into a polycule I really won't mind. daisy brightens up everyone's life and lias life could be one of them. mean girl x nice girl (ok Lia is changing but y'know)

Drew x sean: both might have neglectful psrents lmao (well we don't know much about Drew's situation but drew must've gotten those probable attachment issues from SOMEWHERE RIGHT) but dealt w it in completely different ways. Sean could fix him. drew learned to probably take it out on others and blame others while Sean learned to take his time understanding others bc his parents probably don't do that for each other or sumth idk. anger issues x the chilliest guy on earth. emotionally repressed x emotionally mature. There's more but I'm kinda tired rn. love em

Zoey x daisy - mean girl x nice girl need I say more

Elliot n drew - toxic yaoi 😲😲🤨🤨 wait know UHM. I made hcs of them bjt uh, yeah.

background-chan and daisy (platonically) - wait how do I explain this. UHM. for context I am a background-chan and probably on of their biggest fans. I have an rp account of them. @background-bg-chan . i made hcs of them. and Ive made up daisy n bg-chan interactions in my head too. wild I know

haikey and drew (platonically) - i got this from andrea and I like it. if they were friends they would still fight to death but would obv care about each other. Alas they aren't but. We can dream.

Elliot n daisy x sadie (/pl) - they are literally definitely friends. idfc what you say. they tend the school garden together. they organize charity events together. they don't hang out w Elliot THAT much but they still show some care to him no one else (besides Milly) does.

Elliot n stacy - neglected characters with minimal screentime, pair them up

Anyway that's all I've got for now. There's definitely more but my head hurts. So.

anygay whi is your favortie tmf cgarsfger

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HELLO .

amygays (stearlaing that . btw) i think . jake probably . hes Scuh a cringefajil loser i cnat not enojoy hjs shenanogans . sean n hailey r tokp contenders too !!!!!!! hailey bc shjes literally me (stagw fright gang) n alsjo has her frienmds backs Alwways . sean bc he calls hjs broom mr brroom n hes jsut Neat ! hes so chill i aspirw 2 ,... be mkore chill ,...... /ref

NOW . UR TURN . WHOS UR FAVOURITE FORKJ ANON

[venomremmy777]

That’s it-

SOMEONE in this fandom desperately NEEDS to be called out. And since APPARENTLY no one has done so yet, I shall take much needed matters into my OWN hands, because I am feeling passionate right about fucking now.

KIRIMINA SHIPPERS ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES I HAVE EVER SEEN

Before you think I’m being another “crazy KiriBaku/fujoshi” and a “toxic fan”, just listen.

Before I go into this, let me make a disclaimer. I know not all KiriMinas are Anti-KiriBakus and vice-versa but most are, it’s usually just the case in situations like this. Now, let’s get started.

Reason #1- Saving

You remember that infamous hand-holding scene? Y’know the rescue? The VERY birth of KiriBaku?

Yes? Well, do you also remember how hyped us KiriBakus were, how hard we shipped them together, and how we hoped it was a nod to them being canon?

I have seen comments…of YouTube videos of that scene were KiriBaku shippers are gushing about that scene and then an Anti/possible KiriMina tells them this-

Again, the usual. And I hate to say this but they’re kind of right. That rescue was platonic, sure- It could have romantic implications with the whole “It has to be you Kirishima” nonsense and what not, but even then it’s ship-worthy at best. So I don’t blame them, we KiriBakus have other evidence anyways.

BUT THEN-

They do THIS-

You remember that (MANGA SPOILERS) manga scene were Kirishima saved Mina?

That’s all he did. Was save her in battle, like any other character would for any other because dammit this is my HERO academia. HERO. Ya know…saving people? Your friends out of the goodness of your heart? It’s his job to save her, and he cares about her life. Not because he loves her, there was no romantic implication behind that. Now THAT was “just looking out for a friend”.

But did you read what I just wrote? KIRIMINAS told us we’re ridiculous for thinking saving someone makes something canon, and then they go ahead and do the exact same thing, but worse.

I mean- At LEAST with the rescue scene it was this huge deal, with Kirishima worrying for Bakugo so much I even think he couldn’t sleep, if I remember. He was certain to get Bakugo back, do no matter what. And yes, that is platonic- But then Midoryia over here has to go give a speech on why “It has to be Kirishima” and that Bakugo only will let himself be rescued by him. It’s a huge development for both of them because Kirishima finally gets to be strong and save his friend like he’s wanted since middle school, finds value in himself. While Bakugo, by putting his trust in Kirishima, learns to find value in others. It’s a healthy foundation for a relationship, and although “solely platonic” CAN be looked at BOTH ways. But Kirishima saving Mina, no matter WHAT heteronormativity says IS completely platonic. Guaranteed, it is very cute and ship-worthy, but it no means canon-nizes anything. Also, I do not think the rescue scene makes KiriBaku canon either, I’m just saying it’s hypocritical.

Reason #2 - Inspiration

Oh god I could almost LAUGH at this one. The scene were Kirishima locked UNBREAKABLE. Thanks to Bakugo’s motivational words.

According to them, that wasn’t an excuse to ship them. Because, and I quote,

“So, Friends can’t inspire each other without being shipped? 🤨”

That’s RICH

For anyone who doesn’t know, from what I have heard at least- THE reason KiriMinas ship KiriMina, AND believe it has a chance, the very thing they LIVE on is the fact that, and AGAIN I QUOTE-

“Mina inspired Kirishima, so it could be canon!”

BEsTiE wHaT-

Didn’t you just say-

Bye 😂🙄

Kinda heteronormative, DOnT yA think?

And last but not least,

Reason #3- Whats canon

KiriMinas, (supposedly) tell Krbks that their ship isn’t canon, and there’s no proof of them liking each other.

I, personally strongly disagree, but I respect opinions and will say, yes, technically KRBK isn’t canon.

But aye yo-

NEITHER IS KRMN

Look, if you were an IzuOcha and I was a TodoDeku, we’d be all sunshine and roses over here. But since we aren’t, neither of us are canon so PLEASE-

Just because ours isn’t canon doesn’t mean YOURS is.

THIS IS IMPORTANT READ THIS LAST PARAGRAPH, PLEASE!!

I just wanted to say a few words before I let you go. Firstly, thank you SO much for reading this, and not just skipping over. Especially if you are a KiriMina. Also, I know not all KiriMinas are Anti-Kiribakus and vice versa, this was mainly targeting those people and calling them out. I know there are many nice KiriMina fans out there, but there are also nice KiriBaku fans. There are nice fans of every shipdom. We just need to find a way to be louder than the toxic ones and we can do so by first admitting our faults to better ourselves. THATS why I called out the KiriMina shippers, not to be petty, but for them to recognize that some of their fans aren’t being so…nice. Because if I didn’t, this would have gone on and on. And this might not help much but hey, at least I’m trying. If you’d like, you can reblog or where this post, and spread the word. Because I know that unfortunately this fandom will always be toxic, but we can make it better by saying that we ALL have problems, not just the other side. Gay shippers, you mistreat the girls and make EVERYTHING gay. You can have your gay ships, but respect others opinions and be open-minded. You know what you do wrong, so try to avoid that. Straight shippers, heteronormativity isn’t a thing- Either your ship is canon or it’s not- And gay ships, no matter how many aren’t that bad. And BOTH of you, PLEASE respect others opinions because sexuality isn’t a fucking contest. It’s not class 1-Gay OR Class 1-Straight, it’s just…Class 1-A. Admitting our mistakes is the FIRST step to bettering ourselves so PLEASE, share this, and tell them to especially scroll down to the LAST paragraph. This fandom is a flaming pile of crap, but we can clean that up!

With that said, to every KiriBaku, KiriMina, IzuOcha, BakuDeku, TodoDeku, TodoBaku, Kacchako, MomoJirou, KamiJirou, and any other MHA shipper or fan-

YOU HAVE ISSUES-

BUT I LOVE YOU ❤️

I hope you all have a wonderful day 😊

[kamari333]

AO3 Tags and the Undertale Community

I went through my fics to re-tag my stuff after I saw the post by Galli talking about how fanon tags were supposed to go in as Additional Tags on AO3. I also re-read the Tag Wrangling support page on AO3, compared preexisting filterable tags, and reached a number of conclusions which I want to open up a discussion about.

I want this community to pull together and unify in its use of tags, and tagging patterns, so we can all identify the content we love accurately and safely. The more people who use the same tags, the more likely those tags will be made searchable by staff, and the easier it will be to find the content we want! But I don't think the volunteers are necessarily as savvy in the nuances of the fandom, so lets help them out by giving them the right info!

If I misunderstand any of these nuances in the guidelines, I want those who know better to help me get it right.

Long Post Incoming.

Firstly: Character Tags

Apparently the standard of Character tags is the format "<AU> <canon mirror> (Undertale)" example: "Underfell Sans (Undertale)". This is all well and good. Simple, no? Simply tag "Underlust Sans (Undertale)" and we all know Lust is in there.

So let me talk about the anomalies, the exceptions to this rule.

* Keep in mind I am only speaking in terms of the Undertale fandom, and any characters who have evolved beyond that to become originals in their own right are only being considered in the confines of their existence in terms of the Undertale fandom.

Who better to start with than Error when it comes to Anomalies? Error does not have an AU. He is only, and explicitly, known as Error. AO3 at this time has an "Alternate Universe - Errortale" tag, and is using "Errortale Sans (Undertale)" as a filterable tag, but these tags are inaccurate to who Error, as he was originally made by CQ, fundamentally is.

To combat this, and keeping in line with the rules of tag wrangling, I have started using the "Error | Not Sans Anymore (Undertale)" tag. This separates him from any alternate universe but still recognizes that he has his origins in Sans, and also separates him from his evolution outside the undertale fandom. I had considered and ultimately discarded "Error | Aftertale Sans (Undertale)" as an alternative, but I can certainly understand the argument given he is a logical progression of Geno, who by all rights should be tagged as "Geno | Aftertale Sans (Undertale)", separate from just regular "Aftertale Sans (Undertale)".

The next one I want to talk about is Ink. In accordance with, again, my understanding of AO3 tagging guidelines, Ink is known most commonly as Ink, despite explicitely being a derivative of Sans. We also know from his reference sheet that Ink is originally from an AU known only as "_____tale" (i counted 5 underscores, but if anyone else knows the more accurate number I would love to hear it). So, I have started tagging ink as "Ink | _____tale Sans (Undertale)" because he IS explicitly a Sans with his own, albiet unfinished, AU. Right now, AO3 has Inktale Sans and Inktale AU tags, but neither of those identify the homeless worldhopper originally conceived by his creator, so would be inaccurate tags in many cases.

Another anomaly is Fresh. For a number of reasons. Firstly, he isn't a detivative of any undertale character, instead contributing to the mythos indirectly by using sans as a host. Fresh is a parasite, so he should be tagged, and i have taken to tagging him as, "Fresh | Parasite (Undertale)".

Next I wanna talk about Killer. Killer is from a comic series which, from my understanding, is collectively known as "Something New". So, thats the AU Killer is from. By that logic, his proper tag should be "Killer | Something New Sans (Undertale)" to identify him as a Sans from his AU. Right? Unless his creator gave his AU a different name...

Next on my list is Cross. Cross also clearly has an AU, which conveniently also has a clear, distinct name (Xtale). But Cross isn't talked about as Xtale Sans (even though thats what he IS), he's just called Cross, even in his canon. So he would be tagged as "Cross | Xtale Sans (Undertale)"

Then we come to Dreamtale. Now... Dreamtale is its own, very, very far removed, AU -- the "Alternate Universe - Dreamtale (Undertale)" tag is accurate. I am conflicted since, on the one hand, both Dream and Nightmare are Sans, but on the other hand, they are not sans. So, is it more correct to say "Dream | Dreamtale Sans (Undertale)" or "Dreamtale Dream (Undertale)" ? Or are they synonymous?

For the record, I separately tag my AU by tagging as "Alternate Universe - Dr33mtal3 (Undertale)" and "Dream | Dr33mtal3 Sans (Undertale)" and "Nightmare | Dr33mtal3 Sans (Undertale)"

These tadding distinctions are incredibly important to understand and solidify NOW, because the minor details change how everything is alphabetized in Ship Tags.

I looked at the AO3 tag wrangling guide as best I could and compared existing tag patterns to figure this much out...

Canon Characters First

better known name

Surname (or in this case AU)

Forename (or in this case canon equivalent)

So lets look at some examples:

I have already gone and tagged all my Rust fics as "Underfell Sans/Underlust Sans (Undertale)".

I also tagged my Burlesque fics as "Dancetale Sans/Underfell Sans/Underlust Sans (Undertale)".

SpicyHoney is "Underfell Papyrus/Underswap Papyrus (Undertale)"

Kustard is "Sans/Underfell Sans (Undertale)"

SpicyKustard is "Sans/Underfell Papyrus/Underfell Sans (Undertale)"

...but add Slinky in and its "Sans/Lamiatale Sans/Underfell Papyrus/Underfell Sans (Undertale)"

If I tag Suave/Razz its "Dancetale Papyrus/Swapfell Sans (Undertale)"

but if for some reason I decide Dance and Slim have to kiss I would tag "Dancetale Sans/Swapfell Papyrus (Undertale)"

I struggled, however, tagging my HoneyCider crackship. I ultimately went with "Nightmare | Dr33mtal3 Sans/Underswap Papyrus (Undertale)"

But take KillerCreamMare. Here is where I have trouble...

Logic says that, assuming its classic dreamtale, its written as either:

Dreamtale Dream/Dreamtale Nightmare/Cross | Xtale Sans/Killer | Something New Sans (Undertale)

Dream | Dreamtale Sans/Cross | Xtale Sans/Killer | Something New Sans/Nightmare | Dreamtale Sans (Undertale)

Cross/Dream/Killer/Nightmare (Undertale)

Of course, these all present their own problems... The last of them doesn't distinguish Dream or Nightmare from each possible AU or combination of AUs, for starters. The others are quite the mouthfuls.

The first two could be synonymous but the third is ambiguous...

Edit: I also think we should normalize Platonic Relationship tags too! Like, I tagged "Underlust Papyrus & Underlust Sans (Undertale)" because that brotherly relationship in particular was a major focal point! And tags like that would make finding those friendship and family feelings easier!

TL;DR: This is all very very interesting... What do you think?

[raveneira]

Yo Im gathering all these screenshots of every single BoruSara shipper and KawaSara antis who bein mad hypocritical right now [I covered their names because Im not trying to cause anyone to get harassed]

Like I said in my previous post, remember how people kept saying KawaSara shouldnt be canon because it’d just be a SasuSaku 2.0? they want Boruto to do something different and new

Dont buy that crap for one second, to every KawaSara shipper that has been harassed by BoruSara shippers and antis because ‘Its SasuSaku 2.0!!!’

Look at these posts, and you’ll know all you need to know.

Remember how being SasuSaku 2.0 was a bad thing? apparently when it comes to BoruSara or KawaSumi its fine, but for KawaSara its downright blasphemy! nobody wants to see the same dynamic all over again!

Good to know, your invalidating your own argument, amazing how the loudest voices be the biggest hypocrites

Btw some SS shippers also ship BoruSara Im aware, my point is even when they make the comparison, notice how NOBODY comments how it shouldnt happen because BoruSara will just be SasuSaku 2.0, but instead gush about it validating their ship even further. But if KawaSara shippers made the comparisons and gushed about it you would see a bunch of comments saying thats why it shouldnt happen.

I’ll update this post as I see more but these are just a few that I’ve seen so far but trust and believe theres more than this that I havent seen

For the record I have no problem with BoruSara or KawaSara having similarities to SasuSaku, which KawaSara has very few, but the antis are the ones who make a big deal about it and harass KawaSara shippers over it time and time again even when we’re minding our own business with the same crappy argument.

So now Im calling out the hypocrisy, hopefully our fandom feels vindicated seeing how bullshit their own argument really is. If they keep attacking us because of their superiority complex, I’ll keep exposing em.

You dont want something new, you just dont want KawaSara.

[oscar-mildes]

elvira you know I always see what you're hiding in the tags,, I will always read it if you answer all of them abhsjdbs

nev you asked for this and im going to go thru with it bc im an oversharing idiot like oh you asked me how’s the weather i will tell you about all my trauma instead :D 

What do you identify as and what are your pronouns? i’m cis yo i’m she/her. i’m biromantic ace. thats the label i would put on it i guess. i really just refer to myself as gay bc i like pretty boys who look like girls and pretty girls and pretty nb and queer people and basically i just like pretty people ajsfbjf

How did you discover your sexuality, tell your story? theres no story to it. no epiphany or realization. i just always was ok with thinking that girls were pretty and that gay people are cool and it wasnt until recent years that i was like oH SHIT AM I GAY

Have you experienced being misgendered? What happened and how did you overcome it? no i guess bc i’m a girl and id as a girl and have a very obvious girl body

Who was the first person you told, how did they react? i guess my best friend. we’re both very ok with gay shit and we just always made comments about pretty girls and now we’re both pretty gay. i like my big tiddie anime girls and she likes her pretty kpop girl bands

Describe what it was like coming out, what did you feel? i’ve only “come out” to some of my friends. i would NEVER in my LIFE even imagine telling my mom i like girls. shes homophobic Like That

If you’re out, how did your parents/guardians/friends react? uhh see above. my mom, stepdad, family members are all homophobic. hispanics in general are Like That rip. i think my dad would be the most ok with it but he lives in mexico and i dont talk to him often anyway. doesnt matter

What is one question you hate people asking about your sexuality? i hate when people ask me about the ace part. like they have a bigger problem about my not wanting to have sex over the liking girls part tbh. sometimes it’s difficult for me to even describe where i am on the ace spectrum. it’s honestly the more difficult part 

Describe the style of clothing that you most often wear. basic nerd. you know those fics like “she dressed in a black t-shirt, skinny jeans, and all star converse” yea that she is me

Who are your favourite lgbt+ ships? ajkfj this is a good question and canon wise i love Ash and Eiji from Banana Fish, Uenoyama and Mafuyu from Given, Nezumi and Shion from No. 6, and Simon and Baz from Carry On. Not canon i love Kurama and Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho, Izuku and Todoroki from My Hero Academia, and Inosuke and Tanjiro from Demon Slayer. Note how most of them are anime i

What does makeup mean to you? Do you wear any? i dont really wear any bc im lazy. if you like it you do you but idrc for it? except for lipstick i LOVE lipstick i have all the colors. i wear it so it distracts people from the rest of my face

Do you experience dysphoria? If so, how does that affect you? ...no

What is the stupidest thing you’ve heard said about the lgbt+ community? i live in the south so ive heard tons of shit talk about gay people. i dont really have any that stand out. my mom just likes to say that we’re going to hell :D so let’s give em a show ay

What’s your favourite thing about the lgbt+ community? i guess i like how we find solidarity in each other just bc we’re not straight. most of the lgbt+ folks i know are pretty chill about everything

What’s your least favourite thing about the lgbt+ community? terfs but they dont count

Have you ever been to your cities pride event? Why or why not? i live in a small town and i could never sneak out of my house for that bc i still live with my mom so no

Who is your favourite lgbt+ Icon/Advocate/Celebrity? theres so many big celebrities now that id as lgbt+ but im going old school and loving my man, my tumblr url namesake mr Oscar Wilde. my man got put in jail for sodomy 

Have you been in a relationship and how did you meet? lmao never bc im mean, ugly, and terrible at talking to people irl. i had a bf in middle school? but bc i was 12 i dont count it 

What is your favourite lgbt+ book? Carry On and the sequel Wayward Son. (very anxiously waiting for book 3 Anyway the Wind Blows come on Rainbow Rowell)

Have you ever faced discrimination? What happened? for being gay? no. bc im not really out. ive faced discrimination for being a brown woman tho :)))

Your Favorite lgbt+ movie or show? yall i love gay anime: Given, Banana Fish, No. 6, Yuri on Ice yeee. i dont really watch tv with real people but i think that Brooklyn 99 does a very good job with Holt and Rosa yall im love Rosa

Who are some of your favourite lgbt+ bloggers? theres bloggers??? um idk i love u nev so you count right @why-do-you-pick-flowers

Which lgbt+ slur do you want to reclaim? for a while everyone was mad as hell about “im gay for ___” and idk im gay for everything so thats a “slur” i use for myself

Have you ever gone to a gay bar, or a drag show, how was it? ive never gone omg i’d probably be intimidated as hell like i have a lot of problems just existing so to be existing around very flamboyant and extravagant people like that makes me break into a nervous sweat

How do you self-identify your gender, and what does that mean to you? ive always felt like a girl even tho my mom always said “oh you like boy things??? you should have been born a boy” but like, your likes and dislike dont determine your gender. i like “boy” things and “dress like a boy” but i dont FEEL like a boy. ive never had any desire to become a boy or id as a boy. gender is a social construct fuck society

Are you interested in having children? Why or why not? i have a very complicated relationship with children. babies are ugly and toddlers are annoying but i feel like if i had children i would love them obviously because theyre mine. this is gonna be a weird analogy but like i dislike cats. BUT  i have cats. and i love the fuck outta them. so i feel like thatd be me with kids. but im ace so like.... who would even have kids with me. i could not. pregnancy seems like a hassle and adoption is... i have thoughts on that but thats for a different post. also i can see myself being married and not having children OR having kids without a spouse. theres just something complicated about having both??? maybe im just fucked in the head idk bro

What identity advice would you give your younger self? you dont hate girls you like them, dumbass

What do you think of gender roles in relationships? fuck gender roles. get pegged, bros. i also have a very specific dynamic if i ever got into a relationship (which you know. wont happen) but like if i dated a guy i feel like i’d be very top. a MAN telling ME what to do??? fuck that. but if i dated a pretty girl??? top me pls

Anything else you want to share about your experience with gender? i think ive already said too much oh god someone is gonna look at this and be like what the FUCK but like lmao dont be afraid to ask me i apparently have no shame

What is something you wish people know about being lgbt+? it’s scary at first because you think “im not normal” but like pray tell me what is normal. do what makes you happy. fuck society

Why are proud to be lgbt+? i’m comfortable with the people i like. i might not be very confident and i have depression, anxiety, self esteem issues, probs adhd or ocd idfk but at least i know if i see a pretty girl or smth im gonna be like wow that girl is pretty and have no bad thoughts about it. it’s just how it be. after a lot of dissecting my past behavior, ive always been this way. you cant change who you are. just accept it

[inflammatoryfandomblog]

@kaedeichinose said: “bc the writers are straight men and thats how they think normal relationships are”

i think i know what you mean and i both agree and disagree with you there. it’s definitely the case that in a lot of romance literature/television/film/whatever, there are a lot of weird and iffy dynamics that are normalized and even romanticized.

and... i get it, art deals with a lot of things and i’m not here to police what can and can’t be covered by it. but like--if an element’s there, you have to face the fact that the element’s there, right? you can’t put something in your story and proceed to tell it as if they never existed.

so definitely there is a part of it with the writers not being very critical about (especially but not exclusively hetero) romantic relationships, how they’re sold to us as a culture, and how other people reacted to them in the past. 

my issue with this specific instance in rwby is that... B-Y’s romantic build-up is just so much edgier than their straight counterparts (re/nora and ar/kos--being ships that involve major characters). re/nora and ar/kos have their flaws that stem from what m+k take for granted about relationships (ar/kos especially... no i will not ever let them live down the “the main purpose a woman has is to be romantically fulfilled” garbage) but BY is so much nastier for no reason.

it’s a wlw ship that revolves around an abusive man (adam) to the point that said abusive man’s dialogue, for six seasons, was the main thing that cements the ship as canon. a wlw ship, apparently, cannot exist on its own without being tied to a toxic straight one (tauradonna). make of that what you will. the characters involved have such huge beefs with each other and such heavy dynamics that are just handwaved away as Typical Romance Tropes because... if you’re in love with a girl, apparently, you’re going to suffer for it, tough shit. that’s just the way the world works.

people compare it to renora a lot but that just... doesn’t... work? because there’s so much more baggage in BY’s relationship. BY shares a lot of the basic beats but the devil is in the details: renora would not be approached in the same if ren reminded nora of a man in her past that emotionally abused her and nora thought that ren abandoned her just like her hypothetical father did only to latch onto him when he comes back by coincidence and either nora or ren blamed the other for the destruction of their village for a year and they were coded interracial with one member doing the equivalent of luring the other with fried chicken and they had only spent one year with each other and one of them didn’t really understand the other’s disability... it’s like... why is so much of their relationship so negative when the straight ships, while not Purely Good and Wholesome, don’t have nearly as much baggage?

to me there’s ... a really clear disparity in how they’re written that can’t just be attributed to m+k taking straight romance tropes for granted--or maybe it can just be explained by m+k overcompensating by inserting all these weird tropes. i think that in their effort to be “subtle” about the Gay Stuff(TM), they haphazardly utilized parallels without putting some thought as to the big picture they painted--they just didn’t think any of it through... which is the whole problem with rwby’s writing, really. if you want to... think about... what you’re watching, it doesn’t work.

anyways that was a lot of meandering about to get to the answer “yeah you’re probably right.”

[sometimesrosy]

Personally, what bothered me about the season 3 Bellamy massacre of the grounders was not the fact that it happened, or that it was OOC (it was very much in character IMO) but that a) it was too rushed; Bellamy required little to no convincing, b) it resulted from a lack of communication between Polis and Arkadia more than anything else, and c) it was never really addressed much after it happened. Bellamy isn't punished at all for what he did, besides being beat up by Octavia.

I disagree with your assessment of Bellamy’s lead up into the massacre and the results after.

There was a CLEAR development of Bellamy being pushed too far by the grounders and swallowing it and accepting it because Kane told him he should. Because Octavia did. Because Clarke did. He had a break when MW blew up, when Gina died, when Clarke turned her back on him. It triggered his trauma from MW, and since all of s3 stems from the trauma of s2 (caused by Lxa I might add,) it is in NO WAY rushed. It is sustained.

In fact, it goes back to season ONE. But Arkadia decided to be allies with the grounders because that was the “right” thing to do. Except the grounders kept BETRAYING them. Lxa SOLD them to MW. And then kept them confined to Arkadia, not allowed to travel, trade or even use MW as a resource or residence, despite it NOT being the grounders, and THEIRS by fair right of victory. What right did Lxa have to keep them from living in a perfectly sustainable mountain that no one else claimed? Arkadia had no FOOD. They had no defenses. And here was MW, and they weren’t allowed? And when they DO go to use it, the grounders attack. And that wasn’t even JUST the Azgeda, because there was a whole discussion about how they would attack if sky crew USED too much of the mountain they won. 

Go back and watch again and pay attention to the way the grounders were oppressing sky crew. To keep them weak. And defenseless. And THEN Clarke, who has been KIDNAPPED and held as a hostage, and Kane, who has been making concession after concession to the people who betrayed them and left them all to die, decides that everything is okay, including the attack on MW and massacre of farm station, because she and Lxa took care of it? 

What did they take care of? Lxa’s political problems. What she did for sky crew was make life MORE dangerous for them. She set up an armed and dangerous army right there. Within easy reach. The only way it’s safe is if they can trust Lxa not to betray them and turn on them again. Which they cannot. ALL the grounders agree that Lxa has no honor, has treated sky crew badly, and is making poor political decisions. ALL of them. Warriors, villagers, ambassadors, counselors. Every grounder with an opinion thinks Lxa is wrong and not trustworthy in season 3. 

When have the grounder alliances NOT ended up in grounders trying to kill sky crew. No really. When did the coalition not try to destroy their people. NEVER. They never stopped doing it. And they started when Jasper swung across the river. BEFORE any signal flares caught fire. They hung him up. As bait. As a trap. As a message?

So when you say Bellamy’s decision was too fast and he needed no convincing, I have to think you’ve forgotten the narrative where grounders, the coalition, trikru, and Lxa KEEP TRYING TO ELIMINATE THEM. You also ignore the psychological manipulation of Pike, which is actually so obvious you could call it grooming. Pike WORKED Bellamy, who had just had a terrible shock. Pike wanted vengeance, and he wanted Bellamy on his side to get it.

And when you say he was’t “punished” for his actions, oh yeah except for being vicuously beaten, because well that doesn’t COUNT apparently, you aren’t paying attention to the narrative which keeps bringing up Hakeldama, far more than it brings up Lxa betraying Clarke and the delinquents at MW, or their attack on the dropship. No one even MENTIONS how they poisoned Arkadia’s watersupply, along with blockading them. Season 3A is like, completely shadowed by grounder attempts to wipe sky crew out of existence. And it’s like you don’t even notice. But instead say BELLAMY wasn’t punished for the TERRIBLE act of following Pike in the Hakeldama massacre.

We even have a witness, Indra. Who says that Bellamy actively tried to stop it and keep Pike from going so far, and saved her life, and you’re still blaming BELLAMY like he had no right to defend his people against the people who were trying to kill him and whose presence felt like a threat.

YES. He was wrong. YES. There was no communication between Pike and Polis, but part of that was because when Kane WAS in communication, he ended up conceding EVERYTHING. Pike made the point that the brand that they got in joining the coalition was a lot like the brand you give cattle before slaughter. 

Kane messed up. He didn’t consider the fear and stress of his people. He spent too much time wanting Lxa to like them and accept them and gave up too much of their power. Arkadia voted Kane OUT, by a landslide, because they wanted to stop being at the mercy of the grounders, WHO WERE ACTIVELY WEAKENING THEM AND KEEPING THEM TRAPPED. 

I would say that the narrative didn’t tell you this so you missed it BUT THE NARRATIVE DID TELL YOU THIS. We heard it with the boundaries they weren’t allowed to cross. We heard it with the limits place on using MW. We heard the dangerous decision they had to make to use MW to save Nyko or let him die. We heard about when Farm Station started living in MW and they were concerned about how Polis wouldn’t like it. We heard about it when Bellamy and the delinquents were off on a mission and they had to be careful about crossing boundaries and they were worried that the incident where they killed the grounders who attacked them might cause another war. We heard about it where the grounders had a price on Clarke’s head. We heard about it when the grounders killed arkadians and brought their heads back as messages. We heard about it when the lake was poisoned. 

So, when you act like Polis were the good guys who wanted peace and Arkadia were the bad guys who just wanted to kill the good guys… WHO are you listening to? Lxa may have wanted peace, but her peace required domination of everyone else. This is not actual peace. It’s OPPRESSION. Her solution of killing Nia was for HER benefit. She got rid of her rival. It did NOTHING for Arkadia. It did not make up for what they did to Farm Station or what they were doing to Arkadia, or what they did to the delinquents. Clarke wanted Lxa’s help. She wanted Lxa to stop killing her people, to be friends. Lxa was NEVER going to be real allies with the sky people because she wanted them to remain without power. THAT’S why she didn’t let them take possession of MW, even though it would have solved territory problems. It was because the stability and technology of MW would have given the sky people POWER over the grounders. Lxa was not a peacemaker. She was a tyrant. And Kane and Clarke were trying to make nice with her and it did not work. 

And then you say that Bellamy was somehow the one responsible for Hakeldama? 

That was PIKE. IN CANON. First of all, the grounders ALWAYS give credit and blame to the leader. Thats why Clarke is given credit for defeating MW, not Bellamy. Because she’s the leader. Credit and blame. Bellamy was a soldier in Pike’s attack. Pike is the one who was punished. He was the chancellor and he was the general leading the attack. He was REMOVED from power… by Bellamy, I might add, and given to the grounders and imprisoned and tortured by Indra (who, I might add, has come to terms with Bellamy in s3 s4 and s5 and has now forgiven him.) He was also killed by Octavia. So, I mean, if you’re going by the grounders’ view point, since it was a crime against the grounders, then you should be following the GROUNDERS’ rules for it. Pike. Not Bellamy.

I don’t understand why you’re acting like Bellamy had no reason to do what he did. Held all the blame for the hakeldama massacre, and hasn’t been punished for it, despite an actual on screen, brutal beating, capture, blame from Niylah and another slap, condemnation by Kane, his mentor, clear and continued regret and active decision making from then on out where he is not only determined to make amends for what he’s done, but to change his behavior, be a better man, and MAKE SURE OTHER PEOPLE DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE. 

He had a scene in s3 where he learned his lesson and tried to impart it onto Octavia. He had a scene in s4 where he tried to impart that lesson onto Riley and succeeded. ANd a scene in s5 where he taught Madi that killing and vengeance was not how you made a better world.

I mean, the grounders run around blaming sky people for EVERYTHING. Even things that are their own fault, like the attack on the drop ship leading to the ring of fire. Like they want to wipe out all skypeople because of something that was created 100 years ago, by their first commander even. Sky people come up with solutions to a global catastrophe, and they’re still like, no we’re going to kill all of you. But you think BELLAMY doesn’t get punished enough. 

So wait. You think blood must have blood should be the way it works. Although Hakeldama was retaliation for MW. So it WAS blood must have blood. ONly. If you believe in blood must have blood, what you will have is a never ending cycle of violence. Because you’re ALWAYS trying to get retribution.

What I suggest is actually, instead of trying to understand why Bellamy was so wrong, you STOP trying to place blame on one person or another, stop trying to decide who the bad guy is, and start trying to understand what the cause of Hakeldama was, and what the results were, and what that string of events led to.

And then you might notice Bellamy trying to halt that string of events, whose causes went ALL THE WAY BACK to the first apocalypse and before, and continue ALL THE WAY into the season we haven’t seen yet. 

Blood must have blood is NOT a good philosophy. It leads to destruction. Doing it for your people is not a good philosophy. It leads to xenophobia, war, and dehumanization of the other. I bear it so they don’t have to is not a good philosophy. That leads to people refusing responsibility for their own actions. Who we are and who we need to be to survive are two different things is not a good philosophy, because it means you believe the ends justify the means and your current evil actions do not define you. ALL WRONG.

And Bellamy learned that in s3, because of Hakeldama, and he’s been trying to change the world since then. And in season 5 we see him succeed, and set the world on a BETTER path.

So. 

You actually need to think deeper, I think. Because what personally bothers you comes from a shallow reading of the essential meaning of this show. It IS about doing the right thing. And it’s about taking responsibility for your monster. And it’s about making sure that humanity deserves to survive, and at this point, only Bellamy has managed to learn that lesson and influence other people to change the world around him. 

[happywitch416]

More because I can: Dorian, Solas, Dennet, Varric, and Sten.

Got Dorian already! Also, Solas is last and under a cut because I am Solas Critical and I know that’s a touchy subject for some. I think its cool other people enjoy his character so much! But I don’t and while I am a happy witch, I don’t want to be subjected to a witch hunt. Again.

Dennet

How I feel about this character

The man with the horses. He's blunt but most horse folks are. I like how his coming to Skyhold is basically you children don't know horses ill save them from you. And he just rolls with the nugs and dracolisks? That's a funny-looking horse? I guess? I like him.

All the people I ship romantically with this character

His wife of course! They are a good team, he ie the horses and she is more the farming and its a good match.

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Blackwall. They are stable buddies.

My unpopular opinion about this character

I don't have one?

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

Hm. More reactions to the strange rides. I want to know how he reacts to feeding differences. How does he hire stablehands? Stablehands needed, must be good with raw sheep.

Varric

How I feel about this character

Varric is the worst. Terrible awful.

Ha

I love Varric. I love how he tells Hawke's story, never mind it's his story, he would never admit that. And not just Hawkes but the stories of each of these ragtag nightmares he wrangles to a table for drinking and wicked grace. I like how he is a good person, that does bad things. He lies, but is honest about his lying. I dig that he's with the merchants guild and just doesn't do any of it. And I love that he's a storyteller. Anything and everything is a story. Also, I find his arms, shoulders, and back to be aesthetically pleasing. Holy shit. Just stand there and flex pls ill die happy.

All the people I ship romantically with this character

Hawke, with him and Rose being the otp. Admittedly when I read other Varric Hawke pairings I go this is good followed by sticking my nose in the air and going but mine is better. I am that person, but I think everyone is allowed to love their version of their OTP best.

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Cole, I dig that whole found family thing. I dig his and Bull's distrusting trust too. Like they get along but definitely give each other the suspicious look. And Viv! He's gonna write a book about her!

My unpopular opinion about this character

LET US ROMANCE HIM BIOWARE. Also the relationship with Bianca, the dwarf, sucks. Like. Thats not his or hers fault but it is so bad at this point. I also don't dig the ship with Cassandra. I just….its got problems for me.

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

Ending it with Bianca, its no longer good for either of them. Romance him. Cowards. More games of wicked grace. The inquisitor gets to hug him if Hawke dies, why can't we hug him more. More hugs.

Sten

How I feel about this character

Sten. My murder child. You become friends over a sword. He's sarcastic as shit. You have found a wastebin. He's just the best.

All the people I ship romantically with this character

I don't. I just. I cant. He does not strike me as romanceable. He's gotta job to do and it ain't you.

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Friend Warden and Shale. Team snark. And how many of your friends would rip someone's arms off for you. (If you are my friend, you can name one.)

My unpopular opinion about this character

Don't think I have one?

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

More Sten! All the time. He's Arishok in dai yeah? Interaction! Delegation! Get me the hell out of Ferelden!

Solas- FYI This is Solas Critical, if thats a prob, feel free to skip! No hard feelings from me.

How I feel about this character

Immediate dislike. He's arrogant and a know it all. The Dalish were mean to me once. Well with that attitude I wouldn't take you seriously either. And the I don't like how things are so I'm going to destroy the world is just. Wtf dude. Fucking chill. Maybe. Take a normal nap and have a cookie. Extremes don't fix shit, which you should have already learned by now, the King of Mistakes. Also, he was my first Bioware Romance. I am Bitter. Especially since my next romance was King Alistair, as a dwarf. He dumped me too. Throw them into the fire.

All the people I ship romantically with this character

...no one. The lying, about where he's from why he's there who he is. The absolute ripping he does on the Dalish. Oh yeah, your culturally important face tattoo is a sign of slaves and I'm dumping you. Like. Sigh. It's not healthy. And I will leave it at that.

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Varric. In their conversations, the man at the end of the world to be specific, they have two very different perspectives. Solas is pessimistic to his core. Varric is the one who sees someone surviving in spite of the odds and sees that survival as something worthy in of itself, as winning against the dark. Solas needs more influences that arent so doom and gloom. Flemeth/Mythal is the other. I think if she actually knew his end goal she wouldn't have handed over her power like what appears to have happened. She's spent how many years subtly guiding the hands that save the world? Why would she do that to let him destroy it? Unless of course, she knows things we don't. Or her spirit is laying in wait to possess him. Which I'm cool with.

My unpopular opinion about this character

Look, I dislike Solas and that's a dangerous opinion to have in fandom. My entire opinion is unpopular. Lol the one thing that probably irritates me the most is his treatment of Cole. Its all about what he thinks is best, not about what Cole wants. An important distinction. Cole wants to grow and do better and he's no its a spirit. While yelling that spirits need better treatment. Mmkay buddy

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

For someone who bitches about the black and white ideologies of the world, he's awful black and white himself. I would like someone to point it out. And I want the option to make him actually listen to the elves of the current time, the Dalish and the Alienages. Moping about in the past is good for exactly zero things. I mean apparently, he does in the books at some point? Masked Empire I think is what I have heard, I haven't read it yet. And we know he has this massive spy network. But does he actually pay attention to what his people are saying or is he so caught up in a million years ago? If you friend him, you see hints of it. But I want more damn it.

I understand why some folks love Solas, I however can’t. Its all good. 

[aw-tryagain]

Wow

People really don’t like hearing the truth about what they do and it shows. How can y’all misinterpret what I was saying THAT badly??

Like this was just my final straw I am done with the fandom. Y’all are all so damn ignorant and petty. Y’all will literally hate on someone for doing what you do! How does that make sense?! I’m just tired of y’all and have been for such a long time now and have been less and less involved in this fandom as time went on because I too began to notice things about how yall act and treat each other and yes y’all really are all so fake and after this whole shit show I just can’t do it anymore. Lol like I knew twilight was shitty but there were still a lot of things I loved about the series and I saw so much potential in it and I recognized the shitty parts and also tried to change them to make it better and that’s what a lot of people or pretty much everyone does in this fandom, but y’all just don’t recognize the shitty parts. Y’all try to excuse it. Especially when it comes to the main characters. Y’all will literally jump through hoops to excuse or just flat out ignore Alices racism and how she treats Bella. Y’all will excuse/flat out ignore Edwards fucked up abusive actions towards Bella yet will turn around and vilify Jacob for kissing her without her permission and guilt tripping/manipulating her too. Yall vehemently hate the shit out of Jacob (and are sometimes really racist about it) and will make posts/headcnons/au’s of the cullens beating him up a native brown boy for basically doing to Bella what they literally do to her through the entire series, take away her bodily autonomy and choices and manipulate her. Yall make posts about old white racist people literally beating up a 16 year old Native American boy and jack off to that shit and be racist all while y’alls precious whites can do anything they want to Bella because nothing the Cullens ever do is wrong. Y’all are literally playing right into the hands of that racist author SM and what she wanted and what she pushed so hard in the series you’d have to be blind not to see.. and you don’t see it.

Y’all still perpetuate the bs Meyer pushed and are all so ignorant because Jacob wasn’t like that at first and was never supposed to be like that. Meyer ruins every character she touches ESPECIALLY when it comes to poc but instead of looking at that y’all would rather act like assholes and treat people who like these characters and want to remake them in their own image like shit. Yet you all want people to stop calling you racist for loving and excusing Jaspers time in the confederacy and let you all redeem him and his actions. There was a whole fandom fight about this exact thing when someone called out the racist shit these people were doing regarding Jacob and the Cullens and guess what y’all did? Y’all tried to not only defend what y’all were doing but also tried to defend the fact that Jasper was a literal confederate soldier. Like, Jasper was one of my favorite characters but that doesn’t excuse what he was. You people are the most hypocritical people I’ve ever met. Y’all can make excuses for Jasper being a confederate and say “oh well he learned from that! He’s not a racist!” and y’all can make headcanons trying to redeem him but don’t seem to wanna redeem him from the problematic things he does in the series to this day which y’all seem to always leave out and forget. Y’all can say “oh Meyers and idiot! She didn’t know what she was doing! Jasper should have been a union soldier!” and all types of shit but nobody can do the same for Jacob who was actually fucked over by Meyer and made to do problematic things not only because he was the rival but also because Meyer loves making poc the villains all the time? How can y’all not see that?

Y’all make excuses up the wall for the precious Cullens fucked up actions and will gladly blame the author and not the character for it and will attack anyone who thinks otherwise but when it comes to anyone else? especially poc? It’s time to hate them and treat them and anyone who likes them and tries to actually redeem them from their racist biased author, like shit. It’s funny how we’re supposed to love the confederate soldier who willingly fought for slavery and quickly rose through the ranks in the army and seems proud of that fact when recalling it in Eclipse and he’s just so smart and practical and calculative and is such a great leader and thinks things through and is able to convince others easily and get them to follow him because he’s so charming but we’re also supposed to feel bad for him and hate the Mexican woman who “manipulated” him and lied to him and of course she’s painted as some kind of evil seductress who manipulates the poor defenseless mindless white man that we all must coddle. I italicized those words bc that is supposed to be his characterization. People who are calculative and smart and good leaders aren’t so easily manipulated and aren’t so easily trusting, and don’t fall for one obvious lie for 100 years! Idc what anyone says nobody can keep up a simple ass lie for that long especially when with just a little more thought put into it, the lie can be debunked so easily bc the truth is right there. Also in the end he had the power. He could do what he wanted with his own body and he chose to do what he did. We’re not gonna blame the woman for the actions of the man. Yes she had a part in it and influencing it but there is no way he couldn’t have felt the deception and do nothing about it or at least feel some type of way about it. If he’s so strong and powerful and dangerous and controlled all those newborns and is so much stronger and better than María why didn’t he stage an uprising or something? Don’t give me that “he didn’t know what he was doing” excuse. It’s the same tired ass excuse y’all use for him being apart of the confederation and it makes no sense. He was able to think for himself (and apparently has a strong smart vampire brain) and do for himself and literally had power over himself and others. This is literally me saying that the shit doesn’t add up from what we know from canon. It doesn’t make sense and I’m calling out the plot holes and why it doesn’t make any sense and why it should be taken with a grain of salt. Because it’s bullshit.

This is NOT me saying “men can’t be abused” or some other shit y’all want to put into my mouth. Like you guys do all the time. But of course he didn’t actively choose to make any of those decisions and act upon it on his own, no it’s all the woman (Maria’s) fault for every single thing he did. He was completely mindless and stupid and didn’t stop to think about anything once. I am in NO way saying that María wasn’t wrong for the lie that she told him or the manipulation or whatever it’s definitely wrong but it’s also unfair that she is the only being hated for it when the main characters do the same shit?! Yet everyone ignores it because it’s not abuse when they lie and manipulate. It’s unfair that people who like her and see the error in the way she was created and want to change that or whatever and ship her with Jasper get hate for it yet you guys can do the exact same thing with your faves and their issues? THATS WHAT IM CALLING OUT! I’m not mad bc y’all “don’t ship abuse” I’m mad because you’re all hypocrites and you all fail to see it. It’s said that she did lie and manipulation and it’s “implied” as abuse and people take that little bit of info and run with it (like they do a lot) and make it out like María is the worst person ever to walk the earth and was lying to him constantly about every little thing ever and was sexually abusing him and was physically beating him even tho NONE of this is EVER stated in canon. Y’all vilify the shit out of her (the hate gets so bad I’ve seen people literally act like she’s dirty and impure and beneath compared to the special white savior and all bc she’s the manipulative colored rival and that’s ANOTHER place where the racist undertones come to play.) bc Meyer painted them as this turbulent problematic relationship with the bad colored promiscuous sexually deviant woman and then Jasper finds a pure white woman and they have the bestest, healthiest relationship ever. They don’t tho. Alice lies to him too. Alice lies to him a lot in the saga and actively keeps things from him. Alice talks down to him and teams up with Edward and is on his side all the time to treat him like a child and basically act like he’ll never be as good as them when it comes to bloodlust (Edward legit says this shit about him but yeah this family is sooo loving and they believe in him soo much blow me.) She kicks him and stomps on his foot when he has thoughts or does something that isn’t ~Cullen like~ and that’s okay? That’s supportive? Jasper himself manipulates her emotions without her permission and tells her to not worry about important people that are supposed to be “family” and manhandles her when she had that vision and this is supposed to be so much better? This is supposed to be one of the best relationships in the saga because ~mates~ and tru wuv?! Their whole courtship and mating doesn’t even make a lick of sense why would he go into a diner? full of people? Especially if he was hungry?! That doesn’t make sense! How could she have possibly had a vision of him? and then automatically assumed she was supposed to be his ~mate~ that makes even less sense, and they’re incompatible and are pretty scummy to each other but it’s disguised as pure mated mystical love, by Meyer.

We’re supposed to like it and it’s supposed to be great but it’s not and I don’t because I see holes and I’m not falling for Meyers bullshit excuses to cover her own ass; we know Meyer has a problem with showing vs. telling but we also know she has a problem with making things that are supposed to be good look terrible. but his relationship with the big bad Mexican is the one that’s completely wrong and supposed to be feared? He has more in common with said Mexican woman and pretty much acts just like her! He went along with her and what she wanted and didn’t stop and think about what the fuck he was doing and he’s known to do this in canon because he literally said that he did the same thing with Alice. He was made to feel powerful and capable even if what he was doing wasn’t morally sound. Also omg over time they eventually began to have some real feelings for each other from their little relationship they had on the side or whatever and to this day they’re still friends with each other and Jasper thinks about her from time to time and wishes her well. They actually GREW to be friends and actually had some kind of development and progress in their relationship. Their okay with each other now even with their turbulent past and Jasper doesn’t hate her. Like at all and you mean to tell me that’s bad? It’s just horribly abusive and people have no right to ship it or even like it and/or indulge in it because they may see some potential with what Meyer did with them and want to build on that and improve it??? We ALL know Meyer creates a lot of things, characters, plot points with soo much potential but always ruins it and people in fandom see that and want to change it and love it and bring out that potential but when it comes to certain characters and ships (mainly involving poc) that’s off limits? Yet y’all do the same thing with yalls boring ass white canon characters and ships or just ignore the ships/characters issues in general??? But feel like y’all got the right to play god and be all high and mighty and holier than thou and viciously attack people for doing what y’all want to do??

Now That’s a fucking joke.

Not only is it a joke it’s also unfair. Who tf are y’all to dictate what someone can and can’t like/indulge in??? and I love how everyone wants to claim “oh I don’t ship Edward/Bella Jasper/Alice etc... bullshit! All y’all do is talk about them and make headcanons and au’s and shit that’s what this fandom mostly consists of, quit fucking backtracking and lying. This doesn’t even begin to explain all things wrong with this hypocritical ass fandom but this rant is more so related to what just happened that was my last straw and made me leave that ignorant ass shitshow of a fandom.

You people read that whole passage that I wrote calling out unfair treatment and fucked up behavior and you STILL just watered it down to “oh they’re just mad because we don’t ship abuse” YES YALL DO! and that’s the problem!!! You guys HATE it when people talk shit about y’all and look down on y’all for liking twilight and tell y’all not to like it bc it’s riddled with abuse and manipulation regarding the main characters and you all come up with your own excuses and reasons (however valid or not they may be) for still liking and indulging in it and trying to fix. Yet you turn around and do the same thing to your own people in the fandom who only ask for/want the same thing y’all ask/want from twi-haters? I was calling out y’all hypocritical actions that is sometimes rooted in racism and how it’s fucked up! I was also calling out how y’all vehemently disrespected, mocked and attacked a real life human person and egged on the op for childishly being a dick to someone for no reason and you all made fun of them for VERY POLITELY requesting something Jasper/Maria related and yet y’all call yourselves nice and accepting? If you didn’t want to do it you could have just kindly told them that you didn’t want to do it. You didn’t have to make a joke moodboard post acting like you’re disgusted (funny how we all must be disgusted with the dirty impure Mexican lol) and the rest of y’all didn’t have to reblog it acting like op was so smart and funny and putting shit in the tags like “why do people ship them lol” “like grow a braincell pls” or “open ur mind” like y’all need to open your minds and realize y’all ain’t shit for that and it WRONG! It was RUDE! Wanna ask “why do people ship them” why do YOU ship shit like Edward/Bella, Jacob/Bella, Jasper/Alice, Victoria/James etc...?? Y’all collectively froth over Victoria and excuse her yet she did. the. exact. same. shit!! Albiet badly, but Come ON! now it’s suddenly okay and excuseable when you throw some white skin on it? Why do YOU even like TWILIGHT if it’s riddled with so much shit?! Racism, sexism, homophobia. If anyone needs to “grow a braincell” it’s y’all. Also yes, let’s attack people and call them dumb and stupid all for what they ship. That’s good. Yet y’all have been attacked your whole lives for liking twilight and can’t seem to make that connection. Once y’all get a little bit of recognition and power y’all wanna act exactly like the people that mistreated y’all to other innocent people that just want to be involved because they think you guys are cool. Y’all are so fucking backwards smh you people suck so fucking hard man.

Fuck the twilight fandom and fuck twilight. Y’all have ruined something I actually used to enjoy by being such nasty hypocritical turds about everything that isn’t white and popular and what you all like. You can’t be different or have different thoughts or unpopular opinions. Though y’all always say that you can, you can’t. The minute you even say anything about the Cullens that yall don’t like or the minute you ship anything that y’all don’t like, or have an opinion on a character or trope that y’all don’t like y’all get to shading and vague posting and mobbing up talking mad shit. You are all so damn fake and I hope and pray y’all get what’s coming to yall for being such nasty disgusting people and yes maybe I did come on a little too strong the first time and should have handled it better and spoken better and been more respectful but after being here for so many years and knowing y’all? That shit wouldn’t have worked. Y’all still would have reacted with viciousness and bullshit and miss the entire point. It’s what y’all constantly do. Look at what y’all do to people who politely ask for something you may not want to do??? If that’s how y’all react to innocent people then imma honestly pray for y’all. I repeat the same energy people give out and I repeated y’all nasty ass energy in my response and if you don’t like it you need to look at yourself and y’all need to stop pointing the fucking finger all the damn time. Grow the fuck up. Also if people really wanna insult me for writing PARAGRAPHS about shit YALL do? Not only is that the dumbest most useless fucking insult I’ve ever seen but it also reflects on y’all because of the simple fact that I have to write paragraphs calling out the shit y’all do and putting it in detail because y’all don’t know how to fucking read and comprehend shit, and YALL STILL MISSED MY POINT!!! That is... just wow. 🤦🏾‍♀️

Imagine being that dumb!