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Your fat SJ art rewrote my brain chemistry. He deserves to have dimples when he smiles and to not be cold in winter!!
i agree☆~(ゝ。∂)
#shen qingqiu#svsss#shen jiu#mxtx svsss#i feel yue qingyuan levels of pining towards this man#he’s probably smiling because lqg got in trouble at a meeting#or he saw sqh fall#people would die if he smiled without the fan covering him#been trying to do clothes studies so ik how to draw him better
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JiuYuan plot bunny
Shen Yuan transmigrates/reincarnates waay before the plot even begins, as a somewhat rich second or third son of a merchant family (cliché or clasic background? You decide) not specially sick nor a priority for his family as he's not likely to inherit almost anything he is send to cultivate to a small sect. Because who else will want their unremarkable son?
Turns out ranting about poetry in the street with a vendor is a sure way to make someone important want their unremarkable son.
Enter the current Lord of Qing Jing who saw a gremlin with taste and opinions and immediately wanted him. Also the immediate moment when Shen Yuan finds out where exactly he was reborn in (pray for him). So Shen Yuan gets to join directly into QJP if he passes the other test and well, the story wont go on if he doesn't so let's say he does.
His dumbass tries to make everyone believe he's lazy to avoid work like he did back home but Aha! Shizun is on his bs so in no time he's made head disciple. Natural teacher, excellent memory and talented swordsman (This nerd got too excited by swords and practiced so much he now is the best of his generation and he desperately wants you to know he didn't want for this to happen) it's like he was made to lead QJP!
Side note: LQG will be made head disciple of BZP in a year or so, that's why SY is the generation's best, currently.
Here comes the boy! Absolutely traumatized feral kitten Shen Jiu gets into CQM and QJP out of season and with his general attitude immediately gets enemies everywhere. Not problem! Da-Shixiong will show you around and- Oh? You don't want Da-Shixiong to speak with you? Alright. Just remember to get to dinner and sleep well, goodnight!
And just like that you get an oblivious Shen Yuan respecting a hesitantly curious Shen Jiu who, in turn, decides that the best thing to do with this interest is to find blackmail on SY and take his place as head disciple.
Cue shenanigans and hijinks with stalker SJ and unsuspecting SY. And them getting closer by basically respecting SJ's space and time and being a decent human?! What?!
So like bonding with a cat. Slow, respectfully and with lots and lots of treats. Once Shen Yuan figured out Shen Jiu's weakness is just sweets it's all over. Now hes SJ's shixiong and no one else's. No, shut up A-Yuan, they are not worth our time.
Does he trust SY unconditionally? He's getting there. Nighthunts and being saved like a damsel in distress once in a while helps, even if he gets hissy and pretends to not like it. More so when SY immediately turns to him for both counsel on investigations and to make sure he's safe while in the hunts. Also Shixiong spends almost all his time helping him in fixing his cultivation and teaching him the arts, even when no one else would give a shit, so he gets extra points by being a good boy to his A-Jiu.
Shen Yuan? He thinks he's being a good bro and helping SJ fix whatever made him such an ass in PIDW. He doesn't know what happened before SJ went to CQM nor his past as a slave, only thought he looked like a feral cat and acted accordingly. And yes, calling him A-Jiu is absolutely necessary to that recovery.
In the middle of this SY tries to make contact with TLJ to help him either run away with SXY or take out the OPM so the tragedy doesn't happend. But shit hits the fan and SY gets outed as a demon sympathizer when the sealing under a mountain still happens but he tries to reason with the CQM's sect leader that the demon was innocent.
No one can prove that he was a traitor but under the added presure of public sentiment he's punished severely. Sect leader gives him two choices; He either leaves and retrieves a mega ultra rare mcguffin that'll take him 20 years to get or gets banished immediately and losses any standing he has with the sect.
In simple terms: Prove your loyalty with this very difficult quest or leave.
As a pseudo-compromise sect leader promised no one will take his place if he leaves for the quest nor will they banish SJ for being so close to a posible traitor. SY, naturally, accepts the quest with all the spite and grief of someone who failed his true quest of saving his best friend and the world too he supposes.
But QJP cannot be without a Head disciple nor a Peak Lord! Because plot twist, the lords are preparing to ascend in the next like 5 years. Sect leader knew this, and this is his way to force QJ's peak lord to appoint a different head disciple when SY is away anyways. If that happens SY will lose everything anyways, even if he comes back.
So the strategists get together and make a plan.
Shen Yuan will leave in his quest but before that he'll marry someone trusted that can be acting peak lord in his absence but will not usurp his place. Doble plot twist! That person is Shen Jiu because just as SJ got mellower with SY's influence so did SY get more paranoid. He only trust his dear shidi and no one else but oh how could he force his shidi into- Oh? You'll do it? Why do i have to be the wif-
And they marry in semi secret, taking a small moment for SJ to make him doble promise to come back for him and to give his own doble promise to wait for his return. SJ doesn't like this, not one bit. But this time he's safe, in a position of power and tentatively ready to trust again. He'd rather have his husband with him at least for their wedding night but oh well, they don't get that. They make arrangements for SY to send letters to the WRP so SJ can know how he's doing even if he can't receive any in exchange. It'll be a lonely 20 years.
Shen Yuan leaves and Shen Jiu gets appointed acting head disciple and then acting peak lord. With his silks and his husband's name as a shield (Qingqiu is SY's, but he can use it because they married) he rules QJP much more detached than in PIDW, almost completely ignoring the disciples. This is his A-Yuan's work after all and if he wants it done he better hurry and come do it himself. They've always joked that SY would teach while SJ would govern the peak, even before ever discussing marriage (It didn't matter that A-Yuan didn't know they would eventually get married. They would have regardless)
And Yue Qingyuan you didn't ask? He's in the background wanting to talk to Xiao-Jiu constantly but SJ doesn't need him nor want him. SY's therapy helped him let go if not forgive YQY, he's at the point where he can just ignore him. YQY on the other hand is guiltily ecstatic SY is out of the picture and Xiao-Jiu can be peak lord and rule at his side. Just like he wanted!
Like that 15 years pass. SJ still gets a reputation of going to brothels even if its to read his hubby's letters and sleep. And at this point all other peak lords either forgot he's technically just acting peak lord or never knew there was another Shen-Shixiong who should be peak lord instead.
At this point I'm not sure how to proceed. It'll have to be either:
a) Shen Yuan comes back during the demon invasion or
b) He comes when they are having a peak lord meeting for conveniences sake
Let's do invasion for dramatic purposes.
So you have a supremely pissed off SJ dealing with the demons and watching as the runt of his peak desperately tries to beat his opponent while making a mockery out of their QJP fighting style (LBH is actually doing pretty good, SJ is just Like That™) when suddenly a sword only he recognizes flies faster than a bullet to stop the defeated demon from attacking the little beast and the whole place falls into silence. SJ can hear his pulse in his ears, he almost can't breathe.
The disciples are looking at him for instructions but he can't think of anything as the most beautiful face he has ever seen slowly walks out of the trees into the improvised arena. His hair is finally long now, but not even close to well cared for. His clothes dusty and well worn but not threadbare nor stained with ink like it usually was in their disciple days. His A-Yuan is glorious as he makes the demons run like the pathetic bugs they are.
LQG has come too but there's not more fighting to be had, only a couple reunited at last. SJ sends decorum through the window and yanks his A-Yuan into a long awaited kiss in front of basically every disciple and an enraged and flustered LQG (Man is having the weirdest awakening)
SY is surprised at first but quickly reciprocates, finally at peace with his feelings. Because guess what, 15 years of pinning + letters that slowly become romantic without the fear of retribution will do just fine for him to admit he fell in love with his husband at some point. He was scared shitless of SJ reaction to him coming back and it was only that promise what made him go home regardless. A-Jiu can hate him, but he is NOT breaking that promise. He even made it 5 years earlier, isn't he such a good husband?
Later in the emergency meating LQG is still screaming at them for shameless and inmoral and how could this be the first thing Shen Yuan does when he comes back when they could've just spared
And everyone else (minus YQY, SQH and the beast peak lord) are just like What? Who's this? And SY looks at YQY disapprovingly (He knows YQY covets his wife and purposely didn't tell them) and explains he's the QJ peak lord and SJ as his husband has been ruling QJ in his stead for the past 15 years. And yes, that's why SJ is sitting in his lap.
When the whole story comes out everyone is more surprised to know they are married than the fact SY made the last sect leader so angry he was basically given a suicide mission (Not even YQY knew that) but don't worry! He has absolutely no inclination of taking his A-Jiu's position away. He'd rather teach his little disciples and let his wife to berate their martial siblings as is his right (Someone said they'll be happy having SY instead of SJ in meetings from now on and He Did Not Like That) So they'll share the name Qingqiu as QJ has two peak lords from now on.
Now if they'll excuse them they have a wedding night to finally enjoy.
#svsss#shen yuan#shen jiu#jiuyuan#scumbag villain self saving system#Charlie's plot bunnies#Yes they call eachother wife in bed#yes is a mayor kink for them#also sqh clocked sy as a transmigrator the moment he saw him making cow eyes to the scum villain and said villain not even being angry?#lbh still falls in love with sy#maybe with sj too#Posible BingJiuYuan#I meam TWO sexy shizun? It'd be paradise
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I think the thing that gets me about the LQG-LMY age gap is the implication that SVSSS martial sects serve to sever your ties from your family. This is admittedly skewed by our protagonist being SQQ, but at no point do we hear about any of the Qing Jing disciples getting visits from family members. SQH's family doesn't even get a mention. And so LQG is making a conscious decision to go back to meet this baby (a girl, even, in what isn't ancient China levels of misogyny but is still PIDW) and spend enough time with her that she chooses to follow him up this mountain away from everything she knows. I don't think it was For him but it was something that registered as desirable to her because he was there and able to tell her about it, you know? No wonder PIDW LMY is so ready to avenge him, when he clearly was the one to choose her first
actually, we do hear about the Qing Jing disciples getting visits from family members! Ming Fan mentions his family visiting during the fake jade fight, which is why he had his own little jade trinket to show off to Ning Yingying -- because his family brought it. I think he's the only one to mention getting visits from family though, so maybe that's just a Ming Fan thing lol
even still, it definitely seems like a big deal that Liu Qingge would have any relationship at all with his baby sister! I mean, he was head disciple if not peak lord when she was born, he was probably busy. he could've very easily responded to the news that his parents were having another kid by just being like cool 👍 and then moving on, but he apparently didn't since they have some semblance of a relationship! I mean, they're described as not super close but still having a good relationship, and she still ended up in the same cultivation sect at him, and still apparently teamed up with Bingge to avenge him in PIDW, so they definitely care for each other despite the age difference!
#asks#anonymous#i think if they were more central to the plot i would be absolutely crazy about them#give my tendency to be absolutely crazy about sibling characters#as it stands we don't know Much about them#but what is there is good!#i wonder if she grew up with stories of her brother being the bai zhan war god#and that's what inspired her to join cang qiong#i think them not being super close makes sense given the age difference and the fact that lqg is. kinda brusque lol#but they still have a good relationship regardless!#i wonder if he taught her how to hold a sword#also re: your first point#i think the cultivation sects definitely offer the Option to sever family ties!#it probably depends on the person#it's like. you have the option to sever ties bc now you have this sect to fall back on for support#that you are also supposed to be filial towards#but you probably don't Have to sever ties if you don't want to#or maybe ming fan is just an outlier lol#it could just be that he was still a kid at that point or that he's spoiled or something#i think i've seen it said that he came from a somewhat privileged family but i can't remember if that's fanon or not#it would make sense#okay i looked it up and he is described as a spoiled rich young master lol#and apparently his family makes tea. i forgot about that.#so maybe the members of the sect with more wealthy families tend to keep those ties#while orphans like lbh and sqq or people who apparently don't give a damn about their families like sqh#get the chance to get a support system through the sect#or at least. ideally they should get a support system. we saw how well that went for binghe at first#anyway. the liu family is implied to be pretty well off so maybe their family ties are closer?#this is all speculation#*banging on mxtx's door* hey can you give me more details about side characters from a novel you wrote a decade ago. please. im so hungry
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I saw this Tumblr post floating about on the world wide web and decided, "Hey, let's turn that into a Moshang AU"
Mobei is the heir of Northern Goods, a family-owned multimillion dollar company whose main stream of revenue is the sale and transfer of produce and other goods all across China. As Vice-President, he is the successor to his father, who is planning to step down within the decade or so and retire.
Mobei is a hands-on boss, actively participating in the process of harvesting and preparing to ship these products around the country and internationally, a family tradition to be as involved as possible in the process as to not forget their roots as humble farmers who resided in the desert.
That's all fine and dandy, it's why the turnover rate is so low in his company, their boss is competent in this field.
What Mobei isn't competent about is the more beaureaucratic type of business.
He has no real clue about how things such as accounting and the logistics that ensure that transportation and sale goes smoothly happen. Mobei isn't the business-suit on Wall Street type, he prefers to let his products and their quality speak for themselves.
So he hires a manager from the city to deal with it instead.
Shang Qinghua, a man who lives in the city since he was a child, gets hired by Mobei to as the Logistics Manager of Northern Goods. He snatches up the offer even if it means having to relocate to the countryside.
Plot follows, they fall in love, all that good tea.
Mobei is enamoured by this tiny (Shang Qinghua is not THAT short, Mobei is just very tall and well-built) little man that has somehow paved a way for Northern Goods to be stronger than ever.
Shang Qinghua is in love with his ever friendlier boss that actually understands the hardship and struggle of working out in the field as a farmhand, doing his best to ensure a better and more efficient environment for both the company and their workers.
Shang Qinghua one day decides to try his hand at this whole farming thing now that Mobei and him are closer, but Mobei refuses.
Shang Qinghua is a city man with a city boy constitution. He fears that such strenuous activity may actively kill the poor guy. SQH has worked at a desk and ONLY at a desk for his entire employment, filing taxes and filling forms for the company. Mobei would much rather have his man safe in the shade (hopefully entranced by his figure as he works) rather than having him sweat a river and dying of a stroke while gathering crops.
Shang Qinghua convinces Mobei to let him try anyways, stating he wanted to experience what Mobei experiences.
(If Mobei agrees and both of them use it as an excuse to spend more time with each other, that remains unsaid.)
What Mobei concludes that day is that Shang Qinghua is that the man has no upper body strength at all, but invested it all in his legs. When I tell you this man can run like the wind. Shang Qinghua would put a trackstar to shame.
After having to constantly run from one side of factories and fields to the other in order to stop someone from doing something dumb so many times, he's built up the cardio for extremely long distances without breaking too much of a sweat. He will need some melon seeds and a long nap afterwards, though.
(And if Mobei thinks about his legs every once in a while, he doesn't say a word.)
#Shang Qinghua#mobei jun#moshang#svsss#mxtx#mxtx svsss#svsss au#Shang Qinghua is so fragile and so durable at the same time#In my mind Shang Qinghua is the equivalent of the potted plant vs weed meme because he embodies both sides#This man can and will break down at any opportunity given while also solving every crisis lobbed at him with profit to spare#Mobei jun is very normal about Shang Qinghua and hus legs after their outing. very normal indeed
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Second part to the au where SQQ sacrifices himself into the abyss
Character reactions:
Shang Qinghua: Freaking out!! He thought SQQ was dead and that his story would be utterly in shambles, only to suddenly hear through the grapevine he’s not! He goes and visits him in recovery and SQQ knows he’s a transmigrator and yells at him for the Mobei Jun incident, almost sending himself into a qi deviation before SQH is banned from SQQ’s house for the time being lmao
Liu Qingge: Is the one that found him unconscious at Qing Jing’s entrance. there was an over all feeling of relief and grief at the same time. On one hand the man who saved his life and countless others was alive. On the other hand his shixiong had went through countless horrors, had his honor stripped from him and looks like he barely survived. He wishes he could’ve gone after him, he wishes that he could’ve protected SQQ better, he wishes he got to that fight before without a cure infected him. He takes his time to bask in the man’s presence now though, just to admire how strong his shixiong is
Yue Qingyuan: This wet dog of a man never stopped looking for his Shidi…. Even through questionable channels. Hey! If you came across a heavenly demon that yea was supposed to be dead BUT ISNT wouldn’t you want to ask him for help to rescue someone that is so far out of your reach. (Sorry ZSL) Once he finally realized that he’s back home he’s flooded with so much relief he just conks out in the middle of work
Mu Qingfang: ‘oh fuck oh fuck SO many heart demons what the FUCK oh god his meridians- are somehow better??? Why does he have demonic, human and celestial qi- what the fuck what happened- oh my goodness so much shit healed wrong’ <-internal thoughts, in reality is completely silent as he works to heal the unconscious man and make sure he doesn’t die in the first few days of being back home
Various disciples of QJ: all want to swarm the man and get/give affection but they don’t want to overwhelm him so they make up a schedule of who gets to keep him company while he recovers (LBH is always there and then one or two others come) A lot of them cried when someone passes out the various booklets, letters of invitation and advice to them, realizing that their shizun thought he was going to die at some point and prepared this in advance
And finally. The boy~!
Luo Binghe: He felt so much anguish as he watched his teacher fall. He couldn’t go after the man that had protected him and taught him. Most of his days on QJ were spent as a blur, trying to keep some semblance of normality as he kept the bamboo house spotless, made sure all the disciples were cared for and made the sword mound in his Shizun’s offer. At the steps of the sword mound so many foods, trinkets, fans, small weapons and jewelry rotted and rusted away. Once SQQ came back to the hut LBH weeped. He made the man tea and foods easy on the stomach, carefully attending him. He wanted to cry when he saw his Shizun’s hair, the man had given up ever returning. He became x10 sticker as a result and was insistent on staying by his side.
#Yuan in Abyss AU#svsss#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#svsss shen qingqiu#svsss au#greeniegaes#shang qinghua#liu qingge#yue qingyuan#Mu Qingfang#qing jing peak#qing jing disciples#Luo Binghe
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Something interesting/sad to consider: sqh already had a talent for logistics and managing money before even joining an ding, because he was once a broke 20 something year old living paycheck to paycheck with no one to help him or to fall back on if he ever couldn’t pay rent or buy food. He became Very Good at managing money Very Quickly because otherwise he would have very possibly starved or become homeless at some point. (I’m picturing sqh seeing that cucumber bought his latest chapter and sqh deciding if he should use that money to actually buy something other than instant ramen for once or if he should get more dish soap for his sink) (I love this poor man so much he was really out here struggling even before he went to the objectively more dangerous world)
I'm sorry I'm so late in answering this I have been drowning in coursework and health issues and brain saw this and another ask and was like "oh yes I will answer that when I am more awake" and then it fell out of my head doe awhile
ANYWAY
You're correct
SQH makes money/supply stashes on instinct (which again is a terrible window into both childhoods) and lives in the world's richest sect of which he is purse keeper of and complains about spending any money
Boy is thrifty as a defense mechanism (this isn't a bad thing)
He also, I assume, embezzles just enough money from both Cang Qiong and the Northern Desert
I like to think Mobei is aware SQH has stashes but but since he uses his An Ding stash to help Mobei out sometimes he's not concerned about it until after the Ascension debacle
Then he's very concerned
He tries to convince Shang Qinghua that he doesn't need he stashes after that and it does not go well
I kinda think Luo Binghe does the same thing with stashing stuff and he tells Mobei to let his man keep his emotional support cache
But yeah boy learned to budget because he had to
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svsss recs for fanworks I loved in the month of april!
Cottage, by biasto_bias
- extremely cute bingqiu being pleased with themselves and having sex about it
- one of the tags is "bingqiu-typical bad consent etiquette" lol and that's accurate
- I love them and they're disasters <3
- 1k words in length
I listened to The Scum Villain's Self-Summarizing Podcast and I adore it already omg. only four episodes so far alas but it consists of one person summarizing svsss chapter by chapter to someone else who does not know it and it's SUCH a great way to relive the story!
a story about nothing in particular, by relationshipcrimes
- post-canon bingqiu
- sqq is in the sort of epilogue where absolutely nothing happens, no matter what some people might say. there's no storyline and he's definitely not experiencing character development!
- this was SUCH a delightful read omg. extremely bingqiu of them!
- I've been thinking a lot about bingqiu's sexual dynamics of late due to my current wip, and I can say authoritatively that this fic Understands them
- 18k words in length
everyone knows; we saw for ourselves, by bosbie
- svsss gen fic about ning yingying and ming fan, reacting to the news about luo binghe becoming the sect leader of huan hua
- nyy and mf only know what they've seen, and their shizun is dead and luo binghe is behaving as if he has no love or loyalty left in him
- oof this is so GOOD, I had emotions at the end!!!
- 2k words in length
the rise and fall of @ peerlesscucumber, by Allpiesforourown
- reverse transmigration bingqiu story, told through the forum posts of peerless cucumber, cucumber bro's fans, shizunsheavenlykitten, and all the people who think shizunsheavenlykitten is a tradwife
- a quick and fun read! I loved seeing the other internet people being endlessly baffled by bingqiu
- 5k words in length
Revisions, by ParueCake (MiraEyeteeth)
- bingqiu canon divergence au where after the abyss, lbh makes his way back to qing jing peak
- lbh is determined to prove to sqq that despite his demonic nature he can be a good disciple who is worth keeping
- sqq of course takes lbh's actions very differently
- really enjoyed lbh's pov here, and the things lbh does in service of his plan!
- 15k words in length
if you make a snake blush, by corduroyserpent
- wherein zhuzhi-lang lets sqq examine him to make notes about snake demons. they're both into it.
- it's so cute!! and funny. and very them!
- 2k words in length
Oxford Blues, by raitala
- modern AU f/f moshang where they meet as college roommates
- I appreciate that it's set in a specific college and the details about it are made use of to build out the sense of setting
- I love sqh's narrative pov, she's so funny!
- I also love the glimpses we get into the cumplane friendship and into the whole....situation sqq has going on with the harem of young men who are in love with him while sqq is oblivious to how gay everything is.
- and the moshang is super cute. mbj and sqh are both bad at communicating, in very different ways, and mbj is doing her best!
- 9k words in length
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@bloodycupcakes replied:
I need this! I imagine the culmination of the shenanigans and after SQHs charges are brought forth in front of the other peak lords, to be SQQ bursting in and spinning a tragic tale of cultivator and ice demon kept apart by inter species politics and only allowed to see each other due to the veil of conspiracy, And SQH quickly nodding his head and saying that yes we had to hide our love and I had to pretend to be a spy after some of MBJs demon subordinates saw up meeting. Got a bit excited! I hope I didn't overstep.
liu mingyan proves that there's a market for insanely weird love stories between demons and cultivators and i just KNOW the gossip heads of cang qiong will fall over this like a pack of rabid dogs.
i think the funniest way for this to come about is if sqq tried to convince everyone that him constantly going after sqh was him setting up sqh's cover as a double agent, and like, some folks are actually starting to buy it, except someone overhears sqh tell sqq that he could never betray "his king" like that and to save sqh's ass afterwards they had to rapidly spin it into this tragic love tale
now, the real challenge is: how do you fake a relationship with a demon king when he's not even in the know. all i'm saying is that we can make all of the canon moshang misunderstandings worse here.
(original post)
#disciples era au#sqh voice aaahh i have to pretend to be with my king romantically but i absolutely cannot let him know or else he'll kill me for sure#mbj voice ah.... he's finally accepted my courtship :)
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I saw "svconfession" page on Tumblr and some takes about SJ just makes my blood boil
cont.
Especially this one: "People should stop writing everyone falling in love with SJ. He’s not SY, guys! SJ is an asshole and no one can stand him, but YQY. He’s an acquired taste." Like why are they trying to dictate us on what we can write or what we can't write
omg yeah ive seen so many bad takes like that
literally they are just haters its no ones fucking business what kind of fic someone else is writing or art they are making. its really pathetic to claim to stan one character but spend all your time shitting on another.
the classist implications of saying the CHILD SLAVE who is HEAVILY implied to be a CSA survivor is inherently unlovable but the rich NEET internet troll who harasses people and manipulates others for his own gain is like "super nice actually"
tbh i think sy is a wayyyyyyyy bigger asshole than sj. hes literally introduced as an internet hater. people dont want to look at the way that he treats sqh or admit that what he did with lbh was emotional manipulation and child grooming.... like he literally love bombs him and shows a clear bias to him while ignoring all his other students. a teacher bullying a student is wrong but so is a teacher being inappropriately close to a student???? theres a reason that everyone else on the sect thought he was ALREADY fucking lbh when he was a student and lmy was writing that fic, its bc their lvl of "closeness" was not at all normal. not to mention that ppl forget he didnt save lqg out of niceness. he did bc he was trapped and couldnt run (reread the novel babes everyone somehow misses this part???) and wanted to use lqg as human shield. he needs sqh to help him take care of the plant body so he doesnt... literally die... but even after OWING HIS LIFE TO SQH he STILL treats him like shit and threatens him with violence all the time... including in the extras were he supposedly had all that ""character growth"" 🙄
but just bc i feel that way doesnt mean im going to police how anyone else writes fic and has fun. they can woobify him all they want and ignore all his flaws if thats the kind of content they want to make and its not my business bc its fucking fanfic and ppl can write any kind of fic they like. but i would really appreciate it if they would stop shitting on us for OUR fave. esp given that a lot of sj stans like him because..... they are also survivors as well and can relate to him bc of that. and then get accused of supporting child abuse irl bc we dare relate to the character that is clearly shown to have gone through the worst abuse as a child of any of the characters in the novel..... like use your brain...
#svsss#shen jiu#shen yuan#asks#learn some fandom etiquette#stop being an asshole to other fans over a fictional character#and learn to mind your own business
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This is Airplane we are talking about so it's possible, but at this point he could savage the situation by kidnapping rescuing LBH instead. Like, if LBH is already in CQM then it's no longer a needle in a haystack situation. "Here I am son! I know I was absent for all your life but in my defense I didn't know you existed and I was mourning how I was betrayed by your mother! But I just found out she didn't betray me and that you existed so I am rescuing you!" Or something. Because taking SQQ away doesn't necessarily mean LBH won't fall in the Abyss, which means he would still grow powerful. Which is what Airplane doesn't want.
Also, at this point he has been inappropriately pinning for young Mobei for years! He is not a weak cultivator like SQH, he is powerful heavenly demon TLJ! Are we sure the power would not go to his head? Or that he would be willing to give it to LBH? LBG made a mess of the PIDW world and would certainly ruin all the hard work Airplane has done by seducing all the women! Sorry Binghe, being the creator of this world trumps the protagonist! Daddy likes having power!
Also, if LBG conquered women by being a powerful Emperor why can't he, as the creator of this world, use his protagonist tactics to seduce his favorite character!? He is even more powerful since he is a full HD! Mobei wants to be king? This old man will make him Emperor! If LBH becomes Emperor how will Airplane convince Mobei that he is good husband material if he has lost his empire!? This author is more than willing to be Mobei's sugar daddy! There is no way he is letting his protagonist son ruin all his hard work!
Of course, because this is Airplane we are talking about he doesn't explain SHIT and because LBH still has his seal and looks a LOT like Su Xiyan everyone thinks that he saw this boy, was reminded of his old love and... Yes Zhuzhi Lang makes entirely the wrong conclusion and thinks his uncle has become more pragmatic by learning from his mistakes. It does not occur to him that LBH is TLJ's son. Airplane as TLJ is showering LBH with gifts and such to endear himself to him, so everyone in the palace and the Demon realm also thinks TLJ is trying to seduce LBH.
Edit: also, while it is mentioned that he would try to cover his tracks I think Airplane would rather not risk it. Airplane knows that TLJ lost against YQY and that YQY would have been the only one with a chance to beat LBG. He also knows that YQY is obsessed with SQQ, which would put him at risk if found out. Airplane would also think that at this point LBG would feel saved by his father instead of feeling anger as at this point he would still be a white sheep.
contemplating an SVSSS fic where Airplane transmigrates into Tianlang Jun instead of Shang Qinghua.
he wakes up before Tianlang Jun was about to walk into the HH Palace Master's plot, but too late to really do much about Su Xiyan's situation or the frame job. of course, being Airplane, he doesn't go face down the sects and get sealed under a mountain. but he also doesn't know what to do about the whole situation with Luo Binghe.
he was too vague in his outline and especially in his actual story. finding Xiyan or possibly some random washer woman who lives along the Luo river is a needle in a haystack situation, and he didn't ask for any of this to happen to him, so he just ends up leaving it alone. Tianlang Jun goes back to the demon realms with his confused (but relieved) nephew, and works on consolidating his power there and on thwarting the attempted incursions of Huan Hua Palace.
HHP has egg on their face because they riled up the other sects and got them into this alliance/ambush plot and then the heavenly demon they were supposed to fight didn't even show up. hasn't even been seen in the human world since. while HHP tries to spin it as them being so strong and formidable that they scared him off, the other sects feel like they're just blowing hot air and trying to take credit for something that never even happened. was that head disciple of theirs even involved with a demon at all? suspicious how she just disappeared, too. maybe it's a cover-up. no one's particularly impressed or convinced after the fact that HHP's claims are on the level.
which at least means that there's no concerted effort to wage a war or anything. Tianlang Jun meets a young Mobei Jun and Airplane decides to expend a lot of time and energy in helping the young prince consolidate his own power, so that's a whole thing. there's no system so Airplane's not obliged to preserve the plot, but he still knows it's out there and he's gotta skirt the line between giving MBJ absolute power on a silver platter and not setting MBJ up to be killed by the protagonist one day.
there are benefits and problems to TLJ mostly leaving Luo Binghe's whole journey untouched. on the one hand, he anticipates that everything around Luo Binghe will continue just like in the novel, so that's easy to predict. but on the other hand, that means he's in for some trouble when the blackened protagonist emerges all super-powered and unbeatable from the abyss and starts taking revenge on everyone who wronged him (a category which potentially includes the deadbeat dad who abandoned him for years).
so as the time of the immortal alliance conference approaches, Tianlang Jun starts to think that he needs to get ahead of this.
the most logical solution is to prevent Luo Binghe becoming quite as OP of a protagonist as he'd been the first time. since TLJ is plenty powerful himself (one of the things Airplane enjoys! as well as being very rich!) LBH really does need every edge he could possibly get to be a threat to him. so, why let him gain those edges?
this leads to TLJ's brilliant plan: just don't let Luo Binghe get thrown into the Endless Abyss! no blackening, no all-powerful weapon, no gauntlet of monsters to hone his skills, just a run-of-the-mill heavenly demon hybrid who could never in a million years take his old man in a fight!
TLJ decides he can two-birds-with-one-stone this situation by capturing Shen Qingqiu. then, one day if LBH does still make it to his doorstep, he can present him with his hated scum villain as a peace offering. like well son I know I abandoned you to suffer on your own, but plausibly I didn't even know you existed, so here, have your abuser to dismember in cathartic violence as you please! become a filial son and this old man will help fund whatever massive harems you want to build!
genius!
so, shortly before the immortal alliance conference is set to take place, TLJ goes and steals himself a peak lord.
Shen Qingqiu is... kind of different from what he expected? but oh well, it's been years since he wrote the novel and lots of characters have turned out somewhat different in person from how they were on the page, and the guy was always a mess of contradictions anyway. TLJ hands him over to his servants with strict instructions to keep him locked up, but not to harm or kill him (revenge is reserved for the protagonist, after all!)
Zhuzhi Lang, who witnessed the last debacle where his uncle took a sudden keen interest in a cold but beautiful human cultivator, makes entirely the wrong assumption (as do a lot of the palace staff) and figures that TLJ has just become more pragmatic about pursuing his lovers. Shen Qingqiu is given appropriate chambers (and restrictions) and word soon spreads that the Demon Emperor has captured a human cultivator to serve as his concubine.
so, this version of SQQ has actually been Shen Yuan since Luo Binghe joined the sect (and also doesn't have a system and thus had zero plans of throwing LBH into the abyss), and he is desperately trying to figure out what kind of changes he has unwittingly invoked here that Luo Binghe's father should be still alive, and free, and also kidnapping him to be his goddamn concubine?! that has to be a misunderstanding, right?!
Mobei Jun is mad. and jealous. and mad. but a concubine isn't an empress, so that job posting is still available, right? it better be, he has been waiting more than a decade for the official proposal!
TLJ meanwhile decides he's going to go secretly watch the immortal alliance conference just to make sure that the universe doesn't contrive to drop LBH into the abyss anyway, but weirdly enough, Luo Binghe isn't even there. listening to rumors, he gathers that uh... some stuff has changed? like Luo Binghe is head disciple of Qing Jing Peak? and apparently went crazy when Shen Qingqiu disappeared? except that some people think they might have eloped???
maybe he shouldn't get his rumors from Xian Shu disciples, those girls remind him of rpf conspiracy theory shippers from his old life. they're probably just way off base! hahaha... ha...?
well at least TLJ did a pretty good job of covering his tracks, so there's no reason for anyone to suspect that he captured Shen Qingqiu. or there shouldn't be, until he goes back home to find that every single demon seems to believe that Shen Qingqiu has been taken by him to be his lover. where did anyone even get that idea?! TLJ has been dutifully pining in his unrequited and inappropriate love for the young Mobei Jun for years now! whenever anyone asks he insists he's still mourning Su Xiyan! it's been a whole thing!
but oh shit, truth aside, there's no way those kinds of rumors have remained strictly contained to demon ears. both demons and cultivators have their spies after all, and even if they didn't, news moves along the borders.
sure enough, TLJ barely has time to try and dismantle this misunderstanding before a young Luo Binghe arrives on his doorstep, along with Yue Qingyuan and the very-much-still-alive lord of Bai Zhan peak, for some reason, all of them extremely pissed off at him!
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Was supposed to be a few tweets about SQQ dying with better planning, but it got too long, so have some notfic.
Where SQQ planned better and had SQH burn his body after he self-exploded.
With no body to bring SQQ back, LBH fall into perpetual mourning, ruling his realm with total despondency and no attack against humans. He’s got nothing better to do and no interest in furthering his realm’s reach or taking revenge against anyone.
SQQ-but-with-better-planning has an actual name instead of a dick joke, moves as far away from Cang Qiong as he can and lives his rogue cultivator dreams for 10 years, at which point he meets SQH by chance.
Who promptly tells him all about how LBH has been too heartbroken to do much of anything since his death.
SQQ doesn’t believe him, or at least thinks he’s exaggerating. But the idea of his Binghe being this wounded hurts him, so he has SQH sneaks him into the demon realm to see for himself.
He is confronted with statues of himself and a visibly broken LBH hanging on by a thread.
SQQ feels so, so guilty and hurt for his disciple, but he can’t risk revealing himself, right? Too dangerous. Who knows how LBH will take his reappearance? Still, he can’t forget what he saw. He has to do something.
So he decides to go rare artifact gathering and gets something that will let him visit LBH’s dream. LBH should be skilled enough as a dream manipulator now to realise it’s really him, but would have no clue about his real identity. It’s perfect. So he does that, tells LBH he’s alive somewhere far, that they can’t see each other right now but that LBH needs to move on with his life and that he apologises for hurting him. Should be good enough, right?
LBH blocks everything beside SQQ being alive. It takes him a week to track the artifact SQQ used, who got it, and where they, i.e. SQQ, is right now. And once he has him, he’s never letting him go.
This LBH has been beaten down by grief. He’s not a yandere; he’s too burned out for that. He just can’t let SQQ go. So he ignores any objection SQQ has and drags him back to the palace.
Their cohabitation is tense at first because SQQ did not choose this, but he feels too guilty and is too soft on LBH to resent him for long. Before he knows it, he has slipped right into his previous role as LBH’s shizun, lets him take care of him like LBH has always wanted, anything to soothe his too-obvious pain. LBH, meanwhile, is so scared that SQQ will leave him that he doesn’t dare to try and further the relationship, even as they become closer and everyone around them figure the marriage will be announced any day now. It’s not like it’s not common knowledge that SQQ was LBH’s true love. He isn’t shy about it. If he’s not really dead, that’s bound that happen.
SQH is going crazy waiting for the other shoe to drop and tries to get SQQ to admit his feelings, which, he will never, what a stupid idea. In a moment of rare daring, he tells SQQ to hide somewhere, just trust him okay?, and asks LBH why, exactly, he’s not making a move so he can put them all out of their misery? And LBH tells him he can’t risk SQQ being scared and leaving him again, even if he has to spend the rest of his life without touching him, and of course SQQ overhears them because that was the point.
This time, he can’t deny the truth of the situation. So he thinks about it for a long while, considers his former life as a rogue cultivator without LBH compared to his current life, and decides that yes, LBH is the one for him. Since it’s this obvious that LBH will welcome him, SQQ tells him so, and LBH cries and cries and cries but he’s so happy it’s like finally getting the white lotus back. So they get together and it’s fine because canonical SQQ is fine with LBH’s super clingy and intense attachment, so he’s fine with it here too.
The end.
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Inspired by your Jiuplane fic, Everyone loves SQH series and Nighthaunting's work.
Shen Jiu has never actually spared much attention to An Ding. While he doesn't consider them less-his past would never allow himself to look at anyone being derided for doing 'servant duties' less- he also doesn't pay much attention to them. Ever since Shang Qinghua modified the teleportation talismans for transporting large amounts of goods between the Peaks, An Ding disciples have all but disappeared from view. Shen Qingqiu occasionally saw a groundskeeper or a cook return back to An Ding but that was about it. He was pretty sure that people outside the sect saw more of the Logistics Peak than the people in it. And during meetings Shang Qinghua barely makes a sound, just records whatever was he was supposed to and just vanish off to his peak the minute the meeting inevitably ended in chaos. It was like An Ding never existed.......in hindsight, that should have been suspicious. But Shen Qingqiu never even noticed glaring absence and he would forever berate himself for that. It happened quite unexpectedly. Shen Qingqiu was supposed to go on mission with Qi Qingqi, the only Peak Lord he could tolerate beyond a certain period of time but Xuan Shu Peak suddenly had an emergency that she had to take care. Mu Qingfang was busy with preparing the Baying Moon Jade Orchid that he had been given (Really that should've tipped him off! Those flowers were ludicrously expensive because they only grow in the Demon Realm and Mu Qingfang had been given an entire crate of them along with his monthly supplies!), and the only other Peak Lords available were Liu Qingqe and Shang Qinghua. The choice was obvious.
The mission was relatively simple. Wan Jian disciples had been sent as a response to a request for assistance from a cluster of villages deep in a mountain valley. The disciples had found evidence of a large monster but it seemed to be intelligent and the presence of cultivators had run it off to a cave system. By the trails it left and it's actions, the lead disciple had judged it too dangerous for normal disciples, especially in the enclosed spaces of a cave system and had reported to his Peak Lord. The mission thus had been entered into the Peak Lords' roster. It should have been routine, should have been simple. But Shen Qingqiu had the world's worst luck and so everything turned sideways within ten minutes of them entering the cave.
First of all, the monster seemed to have destabilized the cave so they got caved in. Secondly, it wasn't a monster at all but a demonic beast, a Thousand Screams of Ruin Swan, a rabid thing that was created when someone forcibly corrupted a Thousand Screams Swan with too much demonic qi. And finally, the beasts absolutely hated each other. A Thousand Screams Swan had the ability to gauge the truth and a lie in its presence would not only prompt the most ear piercing of all screeches but also destabilizes the qi of the liar in particular and produce unimaginable pain. The southern demon courts use the swan in interrogations, putting the accused and the swan in enclosed spaces and the interrogators questioning from behind a sound muffling seal. However if the swan were overloaded with too much malicious qi, it would grow to enormous sizes and it's screech would actually cause death to anyone in the vicinity. In this state it was called a Thousand Screams of Ruin Swan. So after every interrogation the beast is taken for purification. The question is how a pair of valuable demonic beasts from the Southern Demon courts end up in a remote village far away from the borderlands?
If it was any other situation, Shen Qingqiu would've been fascinated. But as it was he had no time to dawdle. The confined space of the caves meant that the screeches of the swan would be magnified in intensity and their muffling shields were already cracking under the pressure of the sound waves. If they did, they would be dead as their qi system would be destabilized enough to cause a painful death. Shen Qingqiu, with his already unstable qi was extremely vulnerable in this situation. With Shang Qinghua having no combat ability to think of, they were completely under the mercy of two rabid S-rank demonic beasts who hated them and each other.
Then the shields cracked. Shen Qingqiu barely had time to close off his hearing using qi before Shang Qinghua disappeared into one of the caves with a beast after him. On one hand Shen Qingqiu now had to worry about only one Thousand Scream of Ruin Swan. On the other hand, no hearing was a double edged sword in a situation like this and there was no back up, negligible as it would have been. But he marshalled his focus and unsheathed Xiu Ya. If that overgrown bird thought that the Qing Jing Peak Lord was going down without a fight, it was wrong.
Two hours later the fight was still going on. His head was hurting only from being flung into the stone walls of the cave but also from sealing off his hearing for so long. The Beast's rampage had destroyed one of the cave walls and they had both fallen into a lake within the cave system. Shen Qingqiu had somehow managed to pull himself out of the water, not being stupid enough to fight a water fowl in water. He was exhausted, looked like a wet rag and was bleeding. There was no sign of Shang Qinghua and that either meant he was dead or that Shen Qingqiu was so far off from the main caves that he wouldn't be found in time. While the former was more likely, he at least hoped that Shang Qinghua made it to the surface and called for help because as much as he hated to admit it, that brute Liu Qingqe and his brutish sword would be helpful at the moment. He was tiring and his core couldn't hold on any longer while the beast was all but brimming in energy. It lunged and the Peak Lord futilely brought up his sword, knowing it wouldn't do anything, realizing that this was the end of Shen Jiu, dead by a rabid bird in a fucking cave. And then...there was light.
Lightning, there was lightning in the cave, huge arcs of it racing towards the beast and striking it over and over, the lake water acting as a conductor and exacerbating the damage. And on a ledge, was a creature wearing Shang Qinghua. Because that couldn't be Shang Qinghua. Shang Qinghua was a mousy, nervous, skittish mess of a man. Non obtrusive, and a pushover. He was weak and had no combat abilities to speak of. He barely had a core....except that wasn't true was it? None of them had ever seen Shang Qinghua fight. None of them had ever felt the power of his core. Shang Qinghua always ran solo and the occasional company of his head disciple so none of them had been on a mission with him. In fact, none of them knew anything about Shang Qinghua. They just assumed that he was weak...because he was An Ding and acted like a coward. But now it was clear Shen Qingqiu that it was by design. It should have impossible to constantly keep up a facade like that but looking at the imperious creature watching on dispassionately at the Demonic Beast writhing in his lightning, Shen Qingqiu knew that the impossible had been done.
The creature that was Shang Qinghua jumped down from the ledge and made his way to Shen Qingqiu. He was clutching a Thousand Screams Swan now back to its original size. He was barefoot. His clothing was ripped in places. A large slit too clean to be from the beast ran up both his legs just shy of his hips revealing long legs adorned in gorgeous ink patterns climbing up them and disappearing up the torso. It was clear Shang Qinghua cut them up to increase mobility. The sleeves were also ripped, also covered with beautiful tattoos and the high collar of the robes were open showing off beautiful collar bones. His hair was left free and falling russet waves down his back to his knees and with each shift Shen Qingqiu could see a silver shine of what seems to be metal strings woven into it. He was... He was a vision.
Shang Qinghua was always covered. He wore high collar robes that never showed an inch of skin on his body. So seeing him with his legs and arms and his collar visible, it was obscene! Shen Qingqiu realized to horror that he was blushing. His entire face was burning! Shang Qinghua must have succubus blood in him! He must have! Shen Qingqiu is not the type to blush at every pretty face! He hoped to the gods that Shang Qinghua just think of his blushing face as a result of exertion.
As Shang Qinghua drew closer, Shen Qingqiu noticed something strange. Gauntlets. Silver gauntlets carved with seals. Two on the ankles, two on the wrists. And one collar on the neck. Hidden underneath high collar robes as they were, this was the first time Shen Qingqiu had ever seen them. At first they looked like enhancers and looking at the lightning still attacking the beast which seemed to be getting smaller and smaller, it seemed most likely. But Shen Qingqiu was done assuming things about Shang Qinghua. And he was right, because closer inspection revealed the seals to be limiters. Shen Qingqiu for the first time since he became a Peak Lord, was truly astonished. Limiter seals active on five points on the body and undoubtedly forming a restructure five point qi circuit and still manages to defeat two S class demonic beasts? Incredible. Shen Qingqiu wanted to know everything about him. He wanted to burrow underneath his skin. He has never wanted anything more.
After the Beast shrunk down somehow, Shang Qinghua retrieved it with a talisman that seemed to be some sort of Binding. He silently clutched the swans together and made his way to one of the caves, silently motioning for Shen Qingqiu to follow. As they made their way up the caves, Shen Qingqiu looked at his mysterious companion and told him what he was adamant about from the moment he saw the other bring down the wrath of the heavens,
"You can't hide from me anymore."
Shang Qinghua was silent. Then, like a whisper of silk on soft skin, he replied,
"I can try."
Shen Qingqiu smirked,
"Yes you can. But you won't succeed."
The Xiu Ya sword looked the two beasts the other was holding, two Thousand Screams Swans.
"Is Shang Lei even a real name? "
The other didn't answer and that was an answer in itself. Shen Qingqiu couldn't wait to have him.
Anon oh my god this is GORGEOUS!!! Thank you for feeding me, it was delicious!! Bamf SQH! Beautiful SQH! Badass, pretty, mysterious SQH!!!! Attractive as hell, an unattainable prospect!!!
@nighthaunting look look, it’s our writing child
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moshang + skating (post canon)
SQH loved skating, once upon a time.
He'd spend hours at the mall's ice rink while his parents went shopping. His tiny feet carrying him gracefully, daringly, along the ice as they never did over any other surface. He was a clumsy kid, but never once he stepped on an ice rink.
He loved it once, and like everything in his first (and honestly even in the mayority of his second) life, he lost it. His parents' divorce, lack of money or even willingness, many responsibilities and then PIDW...
and then a new life, a system, the plot, CQM..
No time for him to feel free, the rush of happiness he used to burst with.
And then, years after the plot ends, in the middle of being courted by his favorite character... he's taken to one of Mobei's minor Palaces.
"We haven't been here in a while," he says, buried in the fluffy fur cloak his king gifted him before their trip, with the Mobei Clan's crest embroidered. He counts with his fingers, trying to remember exactly how many years.. but it's always so hard to keep count.
"Here? Five years. But we came in a rush. Come, Qinghua", his king offers his hand for him to hold, and Shang Qinghua, weak, follows him.
"Ah, yes, we were already occupied with some bussiness for Lord Luo, right?", what, He doesn't recall, just the way he kept following Mobei Jun around, afraid of everything in the demon realm.
He isn't so afraid anymore, but being so close is still better than not.
"What are we doing here now?", he asks, curious, as they walk through long halls, snow falling over the stone. It's not deserted as last time, but the servants and guards keep to themselves.
He actually likes this minor palace. One of the many he doted Mobei Jun with when he was just an author writing a novel.
"I have another gift, Qinghua," he opens the doors to the garden at the back, vast and beautifully decorated with ice sculptures of demonic beasts and moon flowers and silver bushes. But what takes his breath away... it's the frozen lake at the center of it all. Not like he'd usually encounter anywhere at the northern lands, but perfectly frozen, glistening under the approaching moonlight.
"Mobei..."
"You told me once how you missed doing this. It took this king a while to understand how it worked, and a lot of questioning to Junshang's Consort, but..." as they walked to the lake, Shang Qinghua saw the most precious pair of skates he's seen. Made of ice!!
"Mobei! This!" He couldn't believe his eyes, anything. It was so much, and Mobei kept looking at him with adoration, helping him sit on a bench and change his boots for the most beautiful thing his king has ever created. "How did you do this, Mobei? It's so.. beautiful", and it's not cold as he feared. Not with Mobei Jun taking the cold away from his body, with his qi circulating through his meridians and keeping the warmth inside.
With a flick of his hand, the skates close around his feet, fitting perfectly, comfortable.
"Qinghua," he calls, hands reaching for his face and looking, truly looking at him in a way that might melt him completely. "I failed plenty of times until I got it right... just like us. And it's worth it," he kisses his palms, reverently. It's warmth and he can't help but tear up a little. His Mobei truly loves him, doesn't he? "Come on, show me," Mobei kisses his tears and helps him stand up, carefully guiding him to the ice.
Shang Qinghua hasn't done this in a while, yet he knows how it felt, he used to crave it when his life became too overwhelming and stressful.
He glides under the moonlight, forgetting everything else, daring to speed up when he felt like it, stopping in front of Mobei once he felt something, someone, was missing.
"My king," his cheeks burn bright red and there's a few strands of hair stuck on his forehead.
To Mobei Jun, he looks beautiful, free. Like he's never seen him before.
This time, Shang Qinghua offers his hand, and he takes it.
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THE IDEA OF THE KINDS OF ANIMALS/PLANTS THAT ARE NATIVE TO THE SINKHOLE CITY DIDN'T EVEN OCCUR TO ME!! AH I'M SO EXCITED TO COME UP WITH SOME BEASTS!!!
okay. okay. When I mentioned that SQH has folded-paper minions, I decided that if the type of animal they were wasn't consistent, then they'd all have a sort of obvious behavior in common. Which is to say, I tried to pick out animals that are either 1) talkative or 2) VERY LOUD. Most of the creatures that fall under the 'most talkative' category are birds or sea critters like dolphins/sea lions, which I didn't think would fit (paper and water don't mix). So there's crows, mocking birds, parrots, songbirds like nightingales, bats. Which all fall under the category of 'flight' as well, meshing well with my idea of SQH having wings himself (and cultivators themselves are connected explicitly to flight– remember the whole scene with MBJ falling and SQH shouting "he can't fly!"). As for the stories that are more vulnerable and less mobile, the ones SQH keeps tucked to his chest– rattlesnakes or saw-scaled vipers (look them up!! they rub their scales together as a threat display and it makes this sizzling sound).
And yes, I am implying that ghost!SQH picks up some song bird-like behaviors. Take that how you will in regards to moshang.
Now. I imagine the original plants/animals of the sinkhole city are still there even after it's become a different type of fantasy nightmare compared to rest of the world. It's underground, so definitely lots of burrowing creatures– moles, salamanders, other types of lizards/reptiles, countless cave fish and underground aquatic species. I like the idea of some sort of really fucked up hare with sloth claws that dig tunnels. maybe cats that ooze like slime and lots of bats? ALSO insects: god so many insects. I'm imagining some of the wildlife is bioluminescent as well because the idea of these glowing hives stuck into the sides of a massive cavern is so cool. I think the effect of SQH and all the new people would be cause some species to be discovered, others to be tamed/domesticated, or new ones to be introduced– maybe even new ones entirely created through rumors, stories, and guesswork. (maybe everytime someone in range comes up with a cryptid and that cryptid becomes sufficiently popular, it just. shows up in the caves one day. This can be either quite the blessing or burden.)
I just want to emphasize that the sinkhole city would be still be undeniably strange even without SQH's influence. The type of people who chose to immigrate to a hole in the ground hiding that it's a hole in the ground are not normal people. People don't just choose to make that sort of massive uncertain life change if there's not a very, very good reason for it. Meaning: the caverns are filled with cursed people that don't want their curses broken (and those who do but stayed afterwards anyway), demon-human hybrid families, a group of wild scientists, escapees and survivors from all manner of terrible situations, runaway brides/grooms, people who came back from dark places different, and those who couldn't go back at all. Ghosts of all shapes, sizes, and powers. Demons running from other demons. Demons running from humans. Demons running from their families. Cultivators that quit their sect. Cultivators that were thrown out. Cultivators running from other cultivators. Human children with rare mutations that caused them to be kicked out of their homes. People who burnt down the people who burnt down their home, who burnt themselves. Girls with teeth in their souls and boys with blood in their mouths. Old spirits. New spirits. Researchers, beast-tamers and craftspeople of all kinds fleeing a plague. People straddling the line between life and death. People that wanted to explore.
All SQH does is amplify the strangeness. All he does is provide a focal point. All he does is give his cobbled-together folk a new couple rules. The rest is theirs, community-built, community-maintained. This is a story, and stories are just as much built by the audience as they are by the author. (Maybe the flowers outside your house can live a year and a half because you give them love with their water.)
maybe your cat's too smart, and your bird talks. maybe the wind that should not exist– not so deep underground– brushes your cheek, redirects your step. This is a city of stories, a city that loves languages, and it loves their creation and mixing. Maybe your human child swears with a snake's tongue. Maybe there's hives of glowing insects in the walls, and veins of night pearls curling into patterns and shapes that can't be natural (some of them look like constellations).
Just. I want to emphasize that 1) this place was always going to bizarre and 2) IF LUO BINGHE STANDS OUT HERE IT SURE WON'T BE BECAUSE OF HIS HERITAGE. A cultivator and a heavenly demon had a kid? His third parent is a random human that the other two parents treat like a sister? The big snake's his cousin? His uncle is a ghost? Alright, makes sense. My cousin is a part-time black bear herself, you know.
I imagine that it would take a.... really, really decisive and vicious verbal victory to physically change a person to the ultra-pathetic state you're thinking of. It would take so much planning and behind the scenes work to even set the stage to get your story/argument to cut and change a person to that level (if you don't know them extremely well or get extremely lucky). Absolutely, if the person is deeply pathetic in the core of them, sure you could peel back a few layers but changing is so much harder than revealing. It's why your stories have to have that element of truth to them. It has to have basis in something– something cannot come from nothing. Besides the 'transform someone into how pathetic you think they are' sounds not only difficult but pretty bad on the ethical front. Like. temporarily changing someone's hair to a color they hate? sure. messing with their mental state/memory manipulation? no. that's for enemies and emergencies only. (And Su Xiyan would come down on you like a sword to the neck).
sahsjsjkansjahsjak poor MBJ in that hypothetical situation. I imagine the very obvious devoted love feedback (which is what it must look like to demons) MBJ and SQH have wouldn't stop most demons. they want power. they want the title of MBJ's Consort. the more shameless ones would probably just rock up to the ice palace and be like 'you can have that human as a second spouse if I get the title and my child inherits' which would.... not provoke a polite reaction from MBJ. I do imagine that MBJ and SQH get married eventually, after a long courtship and some talks about what the fuck the two of them actually want. And by then, they'll definitely be a power couple.
YOU GET IT!!! the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON in MBJ's life will die and hide it from him. this is soul-crushing. this is the emotional equivalent of getting your rib cage torn out! MBJ will have so many more new issues after this. (things will get worse before they get better, that's for sure.) He will be tied up in knots about it for decades. Making amends and building a wonderful relationship will help, but for as long as he lives, Mobei-Jun will have a part of his mind that screams and screams and screams. what if it's not real? it'll ask. what if i'm hurting him? what if he doesn't want this? like. this is nightmare material. In terms of emotional ramifications, this is up there with his uncle's betrayal, except the betrayal was from himself. Get ready for Abandonment Issues the Sequel! Get ready for Questioning Your Judgement: the Ongoing Crisis!
In all honesty though, things are going to be so ugly between moshang following this revelation. Not because they don't love each other– but MBJ can't trust his own judgement or SQH's. He can't trust himself to know when he's gone too far and he can't trust SQH to tell him if he does. MBJ, in svsss, so deeply trusts SQH's word, SQH's advice, SQH's knowledge, and realizing that he can't trust SQH's word about SQH is going to completely crack his worldview. SQH can't be his weirdly indestructible and all-knowing servant anymore. He can't exist in that unexplainable space in MBJ's mind anymore. He died, and he doesn't know what he means to MBJ and MBJ can't carry on as he used to. He needs to find his words. Meanwhile SQH just desperately wants to sweep everything under the rug. Desperately wants to ignore that his oath is fulfilled and there's no obvious reason for why he's doing this anymore. Desperately wants to keep MBJ and his little family separate. Keep Shang Qinghua, An Ding Peak Lord and Shang Qinghua, the servant, and Shang Qinghua, the brother the uncle the friend, and Shang Qinghua, the Storykeeper separate. Just. God. God.
Fun fact: Luo Jiahui (LBH's adoptive mother) calls SQH Da-ge. And he doesn't share his name to his people at first so people just start calling him Storykeeper Luo or Lord Luo which MESSES WITH HIS HEAD SO BAD.
As for Su Xiyan: yeah I love the idea of her being a sort of justice through transparency ghost more. I think she's in charge of the justice system in the sinkhole city because she deserves it :) Honestly though the legal system HAS to be garbage in the cultivation world, given that was is righteous is dependent on what the most rich and powerful people are saying. So SXY doesn't just build a justice system as much as she creates one. And TLJ reads torrid novels in the dozens of cozy libraries in the city. He ends up writing a series of popular book reviews and forming a book/debate club because I think everyone in svsss just.... needs more friends. Luo Jiahui starts a restaurant (PLEASE READ 'PRIDE IS NOT THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR' IT'S SOOOOO GOOD AND THIS IDEA IS NOT MINE). Zhuzhi-lang.... tries [is lovingly bullied into] to learn how to define him outside of being by his uncle's side. He works in Luo Jiahui's restaurant and is dragged into pottery by some teenagers that ask to use his arms like a stamp to impart a scaled texture to their cups. Su Xiyan goes to trashy theatre with Tianlang-Jun and Luo Jiahui and Shang Qinghua have sing-offs while doing the dishes. Luo Binghe explores tide pools and tries to tell stories of his own, like his parents and his uncle before him. One day, Shang Qinghua will bring Mobei-Jun to this treasured place, all his vulnerabilities flashing across his face (literally. the words flicker across the bridge of his nose). He'll have his weimao at his feet, unmasked. And Mobei-Jun will listen. How strange, he will think, fond and aching. How beautiful, this place that should be an impossibility. What a Shang Qinghua thing to do, to speak the improbable into being.
And YUE QINGYUAN. oh dear. I don't know if he ever finds out that SQH was planning to sell out the sect but god. what a gut punch that the one of the TWO co-workers you don't have to worry about* has 1) been in a long-distance relationship with the Northern Demon King's son since he was in his late teens, 2) is dead and has been dead for decades now and 3) is EXTREMELY powerful and eldritch. the delayed grief. the guilt. THE GUILT!!
*SQH and MQF
Genuinely the first couple years after his ascension must have been rough for YQY. He's suddenly in charge of a sect and trying to adjust to the workload, there's so much tension with demons that the situation is probably going to explode soon, and he has to cut back on his scheduled guilt-spirals about SQQ. (YQY is ABSOLUTELY that post about the guy crying in a library and then just stopping and going back to work when his alarm goes off five minutes later.) SQH must have been such a relief. A person he doesn't have to worry about! A person who is FIXING shit! A person who is ripping his peak apart and putting it back to together corruption-free and terrifyingly efficient! A person who is very good at his job! And then you peel back two layers of SQH's exterior and he's still the talented logistician but he's also deeply deeply strange. And YQY is not touching that! He's not! But maybe he should have or else SQH wouldn't have been able to lie about being alive for the past couple decades and also breaking the heavenly demon emperor out of prison (this is not true. SQH is so good at lying because he's a nervous wreck all the time. He's also good at making people feel so awkward and uncomfortable that they stop asking questions.)
thinking about Shang Qinghua as a calamity again…
#svsss#ghost!shang qinghua au#shang qinghua#su xiyan#tianlang jun#luo binghe#luo jiahui#luo binghe's adoptive mother#yue qingyuan#mobei jun#moshang#shaksjaskasjakjskajskaslkeuwiewiio Luo Binghe goes to Cang Qiong and becomes [insert peak name because I haven't decided yet]'s cryptid#mascot INSTANTLY because he grew up in a place where you could argue with a wall and win. He's so self-sufficient. so nice. such a good#shixiong. But he also says DEEPLY cursed shit when he's tired like: “you can't kill me in any way that matters”#or “that's not allowed. it's not narratively consistent.”#or “it doesn't matter if you stop us. your story will spread like a plague and swallow you whole.”#his shidis and shimeis love him tho because he tells the absolute BEST bedtime stories#just. a Luo Binghe that is loved and grows well for it but is still so OBVIOUSLY BIZARRE
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Hi...who are your top 5 favorite side-pairings (can be canon or fanon) from all of the danmei novel that you've finished? Why you like them?
Thanks so much 🌻
Welcome back ✨ First of all, so very sorry for letting your ask sit in my inbox for so long and collect dust dfvbdkfjvgb I’ve been so busy lately.
Also hhhhh this question is hella hard because I suddenly realised how many side pairings I like for so many different reasons xdd so I went with the pairings I read at least one fic about.
(In no particular order)
Moshang
Let’s be real, this pairing is a mine for comedic shenanigans and an epitome of oblivious pining idiots in love. There are basically a lot of tropes I enjoy and sqh is one of my fav characters from svsss so it’s fun to read things from his pov. Peak comedy tinged with angst and sweetness, from distrust to I-will-kill-for-you, hurt and untrusting person finally letting it sink in that they are loved and they will go feral for their loved one, a constantly mistreated and used by others person finally getting something back and realising that they are worthy and loved... *clenches fist* yeah....
Bingliushen
Tbh canon bingqiu didn’t really make it for me, their relationship felt so toxic and on strings, and I needed quite a few fics after finishing the book to actually Feel them. Another of my dissatisfactions was lqg who was left just like that, never having his (hella obvious) feelings seen, validated, or at least acknowledged. And he’s one of my fav characters ever xdd so I want him to be happy ;-; But liushen didn’t feel right for me as well unless it was an AU or we kill off binghe, because in my eyes this obsessed demon would never let anyone else have his shizun, over his (literally) dead body.
Then I stumbled upon acernor’s bingliushen fics. And let me tell you, I’ve never been keen on threesomes or polyamory, for me if there was any doubt in the relationship caused by a third party I felt anxious and insecure and was not enjoying the story, I just needed two people madly in love with each other, happy and sure. But then I gave acernor’s fics a try and BAM *fanfares* a new door opened and I experienced a galaxy brain moment, realised how soft and wholesome and completing polyamory can be, and that was it for me. Everything fit into place, bingqiu actually falling in love and sorting out their communication and relationship, lqg getting his share of love and even more than he’d ever thought of, all three of them finding what they need in each other then living happily and together and I AM SOFT SDKJFDFBKJE
So ye acernor doesn’t even know how much I’ve been reorganised because of their fics (not only when it comes to shipping >2 characters together but also my own approach to relationships lmao) and that they literally inspired me to take a shot at writing my own explicit fic xd and here I am now
Qijiu
Yeah they were tragically harmful to each other and those around because of their inability to communicate and open up to each other and handle their traumas. And yeah I wish happiness for them. I dwell on AUs in which they can be happy together after all they went through, with them admitting what they want and living with it. I am weak for characters who are misunderstood and have difficulties with opening up, so shen jiu especially has a soft spot in my heart. But yqy needs to be there with him for me to feel complete, because these two can’t live without each other whether they like it or not, as we very well know from the novel. And I want them to experience cosiness of happiness, peace for these two stitched souls T-T
Xicheng
I don’t even ship them as in headcanon ship, my headcanon is 3zun or at least xiyao and/or nielan. But I love jiang cheng too much (another grumpy character who can’t say their feelings clearly huh xd) and want him to be happy. I saw so many arts and read quite a few fics with xicheng, and I just really enjoy this dynamic even though I don’t consider it fitting to my view of the canon story. In short, energetic fiery mind meeting a calm and soothing partner, bonus for lxc hiding a storm behind that calm especially when it comes to his desires ;d Explosive characters being tamed is kinda a thing for me ajkvnfdkjvsd
Songxiao
I am weak and soft for them, and weep for their tragic story every single time. They were so harmonious together, like two sides of the same coin, complementing each other and completing each other. They shared the same dream and I like to think that they would create a really good and open sect which would set an example for others. Thus, Yi city arc absolutely annihilated me, stepped on the pieces of my soul while sprinkling my tears on itself like perfume then spun around and walked away laughing. I need AUs with these two being happy with their adopted daughter a qing ;____;
There are so many more but this time I will keep to the limit of 5 xD unless someone asks ;d
#ask#ask opinion#anon#svsss#moshang#bingliushen#qijiu#mdzs#xicheng#songxiao#so many more aaaaaaa#also I realised all of these are mxtx’s because those are the novels which I’ve dove deepest into in the fandom#I still haven’t read many popular novels which actually have any kind of fanbase (like guardian or spl)#which you can safely get obsessed with and not cry your eyes out while searching for any art/fic and finding 1 or none#when I started my journey into danmei I somehow didn’t know better to check the fandom and just searched for novels in NU xdd#so I read many less popular (or bad xd) novels which I found there and which had literally almost no fanbase xd#well to be fair it’s prolly my 1st time being truly in the fandom and not just lurking for some fanarts then yeeting out#anyway I just went through my old NU lists and got a whiplash for some of the side pairings I had in more niche novels asdsaffvd#like MC’s brother and his ‘friend’ in Every Day the Protagonist Wants to Capture Me#as well as 3rd shidi x queer demonic cultivator from that novel or MC’s shizun and his dead friend#asdkjbsfk and blink-and-you-miss-it pair of sect leaders from The Daily Task of Preventing My Disciple from Turning to the Dark Side#or snake god’s son x his hooman from LMW#sdkfbsdkjs yeah#getting off topic lmao#I wonder if anyone here knows these#anyway ask for more if you're interested
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So... I finished SVSSS. Gonna just stream out my thoughts. Will be long cause I wanna cover all my final opinions. Then I’ll shut up about it lol.
So, all in all, the novel was enjoyable and fun. Definitely can't say I have the same emotional investment in the characters as I do in MDZS though, except SY, he's my favorite.
To start, I guess this is where fanfics will come into play, but I want more SY and Airplane interactions. They're the only two that can truly understand the other's situation and I think that’d make for a lot of interesting and fun interactions. Though at the same time it's also funny how they have that understanding but their current relationship is basically just like, not a love-hate relationship. But a.. somewhat camaraderie I'll help ya out maybe if you need it-but I also don't particularly like you, relationship. Still, I am falling onto the Cucumberplane wagon (not in a shippy way though).
As for MBJ and Airplane.. I just wish the novel went into the status of their relationship after everything that happened. SQH was constantly stressed out by him and seemed to have had his share of beatings from MBJ. I saw shipping stuff with them as I was reading it and I was like.. ehhhh? At that point the only connection I knew was that MBJ was the one who was supposed to kill him, so I was like ?? Where did that come from. By the end of the extras, I wanna say I'm on board with it lol, but I just wish we saw more.
Tianlang-Jun and Zhuzhi-Lang... :( I love them and am really sad for them. And yes, I do constantly forget that ZZL killed Gongyi Xiao (who I liked a lot), but come on. He's snek Wen Ning and you can't tell me otherwise. I also actually like Shen Jiu's character. Which is kinda funny thinking about it, cause for example I know many ppl find JGY to be a sympathetic villain, and while I can understand, I still hate him lol. But SJ, who feels very similar to JGY in some ways, I find him really interesting and want to explore him more (that's what fanfics are for ayyy). Funny how all the antagonists of this story caught my eye lol. I didn't care for any of the villains in MDZS in terms of nuance (not that they were poorly written, but they just weren't the Type™ I fall for). But SV managed to get me to want to know more about all of them.
Bingqiu final assessment.... complete indifference. It wasn't as terrible as it could've been, and the extras did make it better, but idk. I flipped flopped a lot as I was reading regarding whether I was okay with it. The 50s chapters, no. Then it got better. Then chapter 80 happened and I was just.... it was genuinely painful getting through that chapter lol. I was constantly pausing and just.. collecting myself. Then the extras and I was like, hmmm it seems.. ok I guess. But I still think it's not the healthiest relationship. You can’t tell me his spiel in chapter 79 isn’t still a total guilt trip. Xin Mo exacerbates his negative emotions, it doesn’t make them up. He’s also constantly jealous even in the extras, making comments of suspicion on the slightest things and just wanting SQQ’s attention for himself. His whole world revolves around SY, and that’s just not a healthy thing for any relationship. It’s undeniably obsessive, and while I don’t see LBH acting on his jealousy, I think that’s only because “it’d make Shizun sad” and not because it goes against his morality. I think LBM is just as capable of doing messed up stuff (murder, torture, etc.) as LBG.
I also just feel like there's something that just doesn't connect between SY in the whole novel, and SY in the extras. By chapter 78 he still did not seem particularly reciprocative of LBH's advances. And even within the extras he's very no-touchy and anti-PDA. He tends to refuse LBH’s requests for intimate moments (until the crocodile tears guilt him into doing what LBH wants) and overall is easily embarrassed, like he's not confident in this relationship. I think at the least more lines of buildup should’ve been added, particularly in moments where it was just the two of them.
And you know what also kinda bugs me about it? I dislike how much the story pushed on that SY was confidently straight since birth. If you want to convince me that the initially ‘straight’/uninterested character ends up falling for another guy, just don’t push it so hard in my face contradicting that. Wei Ying flirted with girls, cool yeah. But the novel never gave the impression he was completely closed off to the idea. With how WY is written, I can totally see him being bi. But SY is more like, well I somehow ended up raising the ML as gay but hey that’s not so bad I guess, at the last minute. I can't say I ship LiuShen either, but I can definitely see the appeal when the canon alternative may easily not float your boat. Nothing beats Wangxian in my heart though 💕
As I expected, am sad with how the relationship with Cang Qiong Mountain ended up. I mean I guess it wasn't necessarily on bad terms, but basically his other disciples are left without their shizun and the sect's whole familial relationship is scattered. I guess it's because I appreciate Wangxian staying in the Cloud Recesses, having this space of theirs and the Jingshi that they can call home. I read the fanfics that have LWJ making WY a lotus pond out front and just their beautiful domestic post-canon life. I love that they can go out night hunting with the juniors. They can go out and travel, just the two of them, when they want. They could retire one day if they wanted. But they'll also always have a family to come back to. LQR begrudgingly accepting WY in time. The bread and butter that is Yunmeng bros reconciliation. Bingqiu.. doesn't really have anything like that. For instance, Liu Qingge and LBH are on terms that I don't feel could ever be recuperated the way WWX and JC could. I don't think Bingqiu could ever stay at CQM in complete comfort. So that's just a little sad.
Also is it just me who, when reading, would always imagine TLJ with short hair, even tho nobody ever has short hair in these novels lol.
Anyway lol, I think that about covers everything I can think of. If you got this far, you the real one ✌🏼
#svsss#scumbag villain#scumbag self saving system#shen qingqiu#luo binghe#liu qingge#shen jiu#yue qingyuan#luo bingmei#zhuzhi lang#tianlang jun#mobei jun#shang qinghua
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