#not taking credit but also acknowledging credit
Explore tagged Tumblr posts
Text
Taighr A Teng, current high priest of Finnerich and beloved populist monarch, posing in his eclectic mix of royal regalia, a simple commoner's cloak, and dancer's garb.
---
His career as king has, so far, been notably impressive.
He had his starts as a lesser nobleman from the plains on the northwestern edge of the region. This northern region was never directly occupied by the Imperial Wardi invaders and only loosely controlled by the tributary puppet government, and the rebellion against this loyalist government and the resulting Finnerich civil war originated here. He rose to prominence in this war, eventually functioning as the general of these rebelling forces.
These forces utilized guerilla tactics and light archer cavalry (the latter being central to the warrior culture of northern Finns) to great effectiveness, and Taighr received a bulk of the credit for this. He claimed to have been visited by the solar chief god Neghri and cloaked in his armor. He never declared himself a possible king, but his confidants (conveniently) publicly urged him to undergo a rite of kingship to prove his god-given invulnerability, and he was successfully seen to perform the naked dance through fire unscathed. This granted him acknowledgment as truly chosen by Neghri, and planted the notion of Taighr being potentially a legitimate king (a status that is usually hereditary, and only granted to high lords when not) in the minds of many of his people.
Afterwords, he prominently fought on khaitback half-naked, clad only in the garb of a dancer (Neghri is a god of the dance among many other things). His claims of divine armor seemed to hold true- he never suffered any more than flesh wounds in over three years of sustained warfare.
He led battle in which the Wardi general Odomache was captured and killed, and is heavily suspected to be/popularly championed as the one who executed her with her own handcannon. He will neither confirm or deny this, but has the gun in his possession and sometimes appears with it in public. Either way, his role in this pivotal battle, subsequent expelling of Wardi troops, recapture of the capital and eradication of the Wardi-loyalist government cemented his status in the minds of a significant majority of his people. He performed the fire dance yet again in the capital and was formally declared king in the aftermath of the war.
He entered into kingship under the near-worst of circumstances. His kingdom has been decimated and politically fragmented in the aftermath of two decades of Imperial Wardi occupation as a grain tributary/colony, and the onset of a multi-year drought began that very year.
Part of his success against this adversity rested in seizing unprecedented and wholly centralized power. The former system of kingship rested upon a council of lords that each governed their own territories, with a king's power Publicly resting in his authority as high priest but practically resting in his lords' alliance and loyalty. He declared this system to be responsible for Old Finnerich's downfall (already a very widely held belief in the general public) and executed almost all the remaining lords (who were also political rivals, having a claim to the crown more legitimate than his own by the traditional standard) and their kin under accusations of being Wardi loyalists.
These executions extended further to many lesser nobles and other identified traitors, in the end wiping out a sizeable portion of previous authority figures. He replaced executed lords and nobility with trusted loyal compatriots and popular public figures, and made efforts to legitimize his reign by taking the daughter of a former lord (who had died a martyr resisting the original Wardi invasion and was widely beloved) as his queen.
This capitalized on general public sentiment of distrust of surviving former leadership (who, if not loyalists, at least Submitted to Wardi occupation) and was a move favored by the majority of commoners (who received none of the fringe benefits that benefited loyalist nobility under Wardi rule, and this invasion occurred in the context of Preexisting tension and peasant revolts). This was not, of course, a universally accepted move, but Taighr's merciless treatment towards accused traitors along with general public favor for his action has gone a long ways towards dissuading dissent in these first years of his reign.
He has so far used his heavily centralized power to great effectiveness in rebuilding efforts and famine response. He reduced taxes on commoners, supplementing this lost income with the very substantial liquidated assets of the former lordship. Much of these assets were grain, which has been stored en-masse and rationed and periodically redistributed to alleviate the famine. The hardier, more drought resistant grain (particularly a strain of barley) has been heavily invested in planting projects. He divided the lands of his executed nobility and civilians killed in war and granted it to members of the peasantry to farm with increased status as landowners, which has caused a sizable migration to the fertile southeast of the region.
Some of his most recent maneuvers have involved resumption of raiding Wardin and Bur's trade ships and coastlines. The piracy has been beneficial to securing needed resources and wealth, while the raids (which have largely hit villages and small towns that don't have a Lot to offer mid-drought) have more of a function of terrorizing weakened enemies and building public morale in trying times. He's also in the process of courting a neighboring kingdom of Hrolje (with historical trade ties to Finnerich) into full allyship against their shared enemies (Imperial Wardin, the Burri republic, and several Royal Dain kingdoms).
A drought (which has lasted six years so far) occurring the very year he took the crown is a spiritual issue as well as a practical one. As the people's high priest, he should have the power to commune with the gods (particularly Neghri, chief of the gods with whom he has a singular connection as king) and prevent such a thing from happening. The public reaction to this drought has been varied, but most see its occurrence immediately following the expulsion of Imperial Wardin and defeat of its high priestess as significant. Many consider this to be the foreign god Odomache's vengeance, and question why their own gods (who are much more powerful and hold total sovereignty over this land) have not intervened to help them.
Taighr's public stance is that this is not quite the case. Their own gods have sent this drought to both punish their enemies and to test the Finn people. They have not forgiven Finnerich's surrender to their enemies, and require proof of the people's loyalty and strength before they will call the drought away. This message is harsh but hopeful in tone, and has been embraced (or at least accepted) by a sizeable majority. A sense of purpose to their suffering (HEAVILY bolstered by effective practical measures of famine alleviation) has gone a long way to keep Finnerich's general populace unified and confident in their new king in the face of adversity.
He has had tremendous success so far, but his rule has clear potential for future instability. While he is very popular among the peasantry, not everyone loved the whole 'mass execution of political rivals and their families' thing. Some members of these families are known or suspected to have escaped (and potentially have more legitimate claims by tradition than Taighr does). His reduced taxation on the commoner class cannot last forever, and his functional creation of a new landed peasantry class is untested and likely will not remain stable in the long term. A small but not insignificant minority interprets the drought not as a test but punishment from the gods for the acceptance of a false king.
---
Taighr has shunned most regalia for his public image. His outfit here has only the bare minimum regalia of the torc and headdress (along with his tattoos), and the rest is dancer's garb and a simple cloak. His image is partly as a maneuver to appeal to his people, who simultaneously desire a traditional king (as their protector and benefactor who can commune with the gods) but are utterly disillusioned with their former dynasty for having so deeply failed them (and being somewhat unfavored even before their surrender to Imperial Wardin).
His choice to partly neglect a traditional 'royal' image emphasizes his outsider status from this now heavily scorned ex-dynasty, while still appearing in such a way that legitimatizes him as a king to public perception.
The arm tattoos and banded motifs on the headgear contain symbols widely used in Finn art, but are forbidden to be worn as tattoos for anyone other than kings (unless the right has been granted by a king in recognition and blessing). A kings rule is marked with arm and leg bands added for each year of sovereignty, with symbols chosen to represent the character of each year and a king's accomplishments and actions therein. These tattoos tend to be flattering in their meaning and serve to cement a chosen narrative into the king's very skin- his successes are lauded, his difficulties are acknowledged but framed as a struggle in which he remained strong/will ultimately be triumphant.
The first year shows an abstract symbol of unification and brotherhood, representing his role early in the war when he had already emerged as a military leader was first acknowledged as a potential king. The second denotes clouded skies and an obscured sun, representing the struggle and uncertainty in the height of war. The third shows victory by the arrowhead, celebrating the end to the war, Finnerich's restored sovereignty, and the expulsion of invasive elements. The fourth shows the motif of maize, denoting the sense of hope and regrowth in the first year free of tributary occupation (somewhat in contrast to the reality of the drought). The fifth shows clouded skies yet again, as this was when public elation over their victory was thoroughly quashed by the drought not only Not Stopping but having its worst year of all, one of the more difficult years of his sovereignty. The sixth shows foundations, a sense of rebuilding in regards to great public works and triumphant management of the famine, a year in which more rain came and his land/grain distribution system entered full swing. The seventh shows an abstract symbol of clasped hands in unity and arrowheads, celebrating allegiance with Hrolje and great success in raids against enemies. He is in the eighth year of being recognized as a king, and the latest one has been outlined but not completed.
The tattoos on the back of his hands mark his status as legitimate king chosen by Neghri, capable of communing with the gods and performing acts of magic. This symbol is completely forbidden to be worn by anyone besides a king (including on clothing/jewelry/etc) and is the ultimate symbol of lordship, sovereignty, and connection to the chief of the gods.
His head (not directly visible here) is artificially lengthened, having been bound in infancy. Artificial cranial deformation is a widespread practice among many of the North Viper peoples, where it tends to be associated with beauty, nobility, and/or a semi-divine status. This practice is reserved exclusively for the hereditary nobility (kings, lords, and lesser nobles) of Finn culture. The trend for most Finn headgear to be very tall and pointed is at least related, giving a person a noble and dignified bearing (regardless of their skull's actual length).
#I've changed the last bit of his name a few times it needed to be more distinct from the Highlands language given the language#of Finnerich is separated by a little under a millenia with wildly different influences in the interim lol#Taighr stays because it's an established cognate#It's basically pronounced 'tiger'. Like a little different to how you would naturally say tiger but same overall sounds#finnerich
131 notes
¡
View notes
Text
â
pac : call out/roast edition â
â
decks used : rider waite + rebel deck â
â
pile 1 : guy laying in snow â
â
cards pulled â
â
âtake a shotâ & âget the f*ck outside. move your ass.â [rebel deck] â
3 of pentacles rv, king of cups, & 7 of cups rv [rider waite]
â
interpretation â
â
first of all, the rebel deck said it loud and clear: youâve been way too cozy wallowing in your little snowdrift of procrastination and self-pity. the universe isnât asking politely anymore. itâs basically throwing a shoe at your head, screaming, âstop making excuses and do something already.â youâre stuck in a rut because you refuse to pull yourself out, not because the world is conspiring against you. also, "take a shot"? yeah, thatâs your reminder to loosen up. whether itâs a literal drink or just taking a leap of faith, stop overthinking and start doing. â
3 of pentacles rv: teamwork makes the dream workâunless youâre out here playing the lone wolf and ignoring everyoneâs advice. are you being stubborn and dismissing people who are trying to help? newsflash: youâre not an expert in everything, and pretending like you donât need anyone is why nothing is getting off the ground. humble yourself, ask for help, and actually listen when they give it. â
king of cups: youâre out here flexing like youâve got your emotions in check, but letâs be realâare you using that emotional intelligence for anything productive? or are you just bottling everything up and hoping it magically works itself out? spoiler alert: it wonât. tap into that maturity you claim to have and channel your feelings into something that actually moves you forward. â
7 of cups rv: the rose-colored glasses are off, but instead of taking action now that you see the truth, youâre just standing there like, âoh no, what do I do?â pick a direction. any direction. clarity means nothing if you donât use it. stop fantasizing about all the things you could do and just do one of them. â
youâre like that guy in the snow, lying there waiting for someone to rescue you while the answer is literally right there. stop playing the victim and get up. the universe isnât going to hand you success on a silver platter, especially when youâre out here acting like youâve already tried everything (spoiler: you havenât). itâs time to ditch the pity party, stop crying over what couldâve been, and start creating what will be.
also, go outside. youâre starting to smell like the inside of your own excuses.
â
pile 2 : guy skating on top of beverage case â
â
cards pulled â
â
âbe f*cking gratefulâ & âdon't believe every shitty thought you haveâ [rebel deck] â
the devil rv, two of wands rv, temperance [rider waite]
â
interpretation â
â
first things first, your inner monologue? itâs not the motivational pep talk you think it isâitâs more like a heckler in the back row of your own life. stop letting every self-deprecating thought rent space in your head. youâre smarter, more capable, and honestly cooler than youâre giving yourself credit for. also, the rebel deck isnât mincing words: be grateful. stop acting like the universe owes you more when you havenât even acknowledged the good stuff you already have. skating past your blessings isnât the flex you think it is.
â
the devil rv: congrats, youâve started freeing yourself from something toxicâwhether itâs a bad habit, a bad mindset, or a bad situationship (you know exactly which one). but hereâs the catch: youâre still lingering in the doorway, hesitating like you donât know how to leave. spoiler alert: you do know. the real question is, are you brave enough to actually move forward?
â
two of wands rv: speaking of moving forward⌠why are you so scared of planning for your future? youâre clinging to the familiar, even though you know deep down itâs not where you want to stay. stop sabotaging yourself with indecision and the âwhat ifs.â dream bigger, plan smarter, and stop waiting for someone to hand you permission.
â
temperance: balance, baby. youâre all over the placeâone day youâre ready to conquer the world, and the next youâre spiraling. temperance is telling you to chill, find your flow, and start pacing yourself. thereâs no prize for rushing to the finish line when youâre burning out halfway there. â
youâre basically that chaotic skater dude on the beverage caseâthinking youâre pulling off something epic, but really youâre one wobble away from a faceplant. stop letting fear, doubt, and overthinking control your moves. the devil rv says youâve already started breaking free, but the two of wands rv says youâre too scared to claim the freedom. temperance is the friend yelling, âbro, slow down, or youâre gonna break your metaphorical neck.â
also, stop whining about what you donât have. the universe has given you plenty to work with, but youâre out here acting like youâre skating with broken wheels when youâve got a brand-new board. be grateful for the progress, even if itâs messy, and get your balance before you wipe out entirely.
â
pile 3 : girl mid-slip near wet floor sign â
â
cards pulled â
â
âget some f*cking sleepâ & âdon't f*cking force itâ [rebel deck] â
the empress, knight of swords rv, the chariot
â
interpretation â
â
the rebel deck is tired of your overachieving nonsense. youâre running on fumes, caffeine, and vibes, but guess what? your body and mind are screaming, âcan we not?â you canât hustle your way out of exhaustion, and forcing things to work isnât going to magically make them fall into place. sometimes, the best move is to just take a nap, regroup, and let things flow naturally. no oneâs handing out medals for being a sleep-deprived mess. â
the empress: youâve got big creative energy and the potential to nurture something amazing, but hereâs the thingâyou canât birth a masterpiece when youâre too busy running around like a headless chicken. slow down, embrace your inner empress, and let your ideas grow organically. also, self-care? itâs not a luxury; itâs a requirement.
â
knight of swords rv: this is you, barreling into situations without thinking, full of chaotic energy and zero patience. youâre rushing so fast youâre missing the wet floor signs in your life. impulsiveness might feel exciting, but itâs not sustainable. pause, breathe, and stop trying to bulldoze your way through every challenge.
â
the chariot: the good news? youâve got determination for days. the bad news? youâre trying to drive a chariot with one wheel in the ditch. success is yours, but only if you balance that ambition with strategy and self-control. remember, winning the race doesnât mean sprinting until you collapseâitâs about maintaining your focus and pace.
â
girl, youâre out here mid-slip, ignoring all the signs, thinking sheer willpower will stop you from face-planting. spoiler: it wonât. the empress is screaming ârest and recharge!â while the knight of swords rv is dragging you for acting like a chaotic tornado. the chariot knows youâve got what it takes, but not if you keep pushing yourself into burnout mode.
so hereâs the deal: slow. the. f*ck. down. let things unfold naturally instead of forcing them. take a nap, hydrate, and stop pretending youâre a superhero who can function on zero rest and pure adrenaline. the wet floor sign isnât lyingâyouâre slipping because youâre doing too much. trust the process, and give yourself permission to just exist for a hot second. the world isnât going anywhere.
â
book a reading â
â
masterlist 1 â
â
masterlist 2 â
92 notes
¡
View notes
Note
Seeing that you have watched ep 3 of when it rains it pours, in the ending credits where we see a sneak peak in episode four, what do you think Kaori meant when she said âwhenever he shows his masculine side, it kills the moodâ.
It was quite an interesting line, wasn't it? Here's what we've seen of Kaori and Hagiwara's relationship so far:
They liked each other immediately, and she was the one who really pushed for the relationship to begin
In fact, during their early dating era, she was often the one owning the typically more masculine coded romance tropes: she took his hand first, and confessed first, and ran to him
At the start, she seemed interested in physical intimacy with him, and then over time she drew away from it without acknowledging (to him, but maybe also to herself?) that she was doing so
She still seems to care for him, consider him her partner, and plan for a future together, and she is attentive to him except where sex is concerned
She makes food for him and takes care of his nails and finds him cute and seems happy and comfortable being with him--until he tries to initiate sex
She seems happiest when he looks cute and non-threatening, and most uncomfortable when he asserts his masculinity or touches her with sexual intent
Add to that her line from the preview explicitly saying seeing his masculine side "kills the mood." There are a couple ways one could interpret that. It could be that Kaori has some past trauma that makes certain presentations of masculinity uncomfortable for her, and she prefers to feel in control as a result. But I also think there's an intriguing possibility that what she's reacting to is being reminded he's a man at all. I would not be surprised to learn there is a double queer awakening happening for this couple.
33 notes
¡
View notes
Text
A way too serious reading on Fire in the Sky focusing on Skyfire
The first impression we have of Skyfire is Starscreams vision of him. He says they were close friends before the war. Skyfire is portrayed as a representation of innocence, he is the last cybertronian to know what life was like before the war, and untouched by the horrors of it. When the actual Skyfire is revived, he is in the future in the middle of a war, where for him, he was just a while ago he was a civilian scientist. He knows that this isnât Cybertron, subconsciously or not, he is essentially trapped with the Decepticons, and with Starscream, who despite saying they are close friends, Skyfire treats Starscream more like an acquaintance. However, Starscream is the only thing that he has left from his old life, so he would naturally stick with him
 It doesnât take long for Starscream to establish control over Skyfire. Starscream who not only has a ranking superiority over Skyfire, but in life experience. He is 5 million years older, most of which was spent as a warrior, and as the second in command. He tells him that he will make Skyfire his second in command once he takes over. Skyfire thanks him, telling him that he will give Starscream credit. It makes you wonder if this is what their relationship was like before the war, if Starscream believes that being close friends means that someone is willing to be subservient to you.
Then his first encounter with the Autobots. This is where Skyfire is alone, and you can see his actual personality, albeit still under the manipulations of the Decepticons. They engage in combat but stop when Spike and Sparkplug are in danger. When Skyfire goes over to help them, he speaks very softly for the first time since his reactivation. A gentleness for organisms that shows his true calling as a scientist. He then tells them the lies that he was told, showing he does genuinely believe in what Megatron and Starscream told him, like he looks up to his superiors.
So, when Skyfire raises a protest to the treatment of the humans, Megatron warns him that heâs stepping out of line, but it was Starscream who tightens his leash. not hesitating to shoot his hand as a punishment. Starscream should know how Skyfire should love organics, but maybe he saw this as an opportunity to taint Skyfire even more. Skyfire was shocked but not to Starscream shooting him, but to why they wanted to harm the humans. He does not question being shot by Starscream at all, filling in a picture of them before the war even more. Skyfire had also said that these humans were his friends, despite most of their very brief meetings being the humans terrified of him. This also makes you think if Skyfire before had any real friends other then Starscream.
When cornering a group of Autobots, Starscream said that the years under the ice had diminished his loyalty coefficient. And once again you wonder, âhow did Starscream treat Skyfire before??â
Even after acknowledging their old friendship, the moment Skyfire refuses Starscream, he once again, does not hesitate to shoot Skyfire for being âwrongâ, the Autobots look on in horror for Skyfire, Ratchet and Hound even saying something about it before getting destroyed -in Skyfires eyes- by Starscream, who steps on him before walking off. Another display of establishing his control. In the very short time that heâs been reactivated, Starscream has already shot Skyfire twice for miniscule âmistakesâ and Skyfire doesnât even question why he was punished so harshly by being shot, only thinking of others.
Ratchet fixes up Skyfire the best he can after revealing that they are functioning they get interrupted by Starscream who orders his trine to fire at will at the Autobots, not caring that they were fixing up Skyfire. Ratchet doesnât leave Skyfires side, tugging at his hand and saying âI wonât leave you hereâ before getting shot. Skyfire stirs, this is probably the kindest anyone has been to him after being frozen and losing everything he knows.
Skyfire does join the battle, on the side of the Autobots, finally seeing a way out from the Decepticon grasp, and literally throws Megatron away. He ends up fighting Starscream, who only a little while ago had such a positive view of Skyfire, is now willing to kill him permanently. Itâs almost like he would rather have Skyfire dead then have a Skyfire who is alive, but does not fit the loyal subservient imaginary image he has of him in his mind.
Starscream has far more experience in battle and although they both crash, Starscream will show up next episode, totally fine. However for Skyfire, in his final moments, fires a blast to bury the crystals, and himself to save his new friends. Perhaps thatâs all he knows, instead of landing safely, he did everything he could to be useful to the very end. But in doing this he found freedom from Starscream, in death.
(until he gets revived)
#This isnât a âohhh skystar is bad and youre bad for shipping themâ post#id also be a huge hypocrite#honestly this made me a bigger fan of skystar#It is rather ironic of how much content there is of skystar where there is a victim who escapes their abuser#But that is the story of Skyfires most popular appearance#I was talking about it so someone and a couple of people were talking about it on my last post too#how alot of the fandom just kinda ignores that Skyfire is a victim of Starscream#Is it because hes bigger?? Ig that lines up with a lot of male victims??#Itâs probably the contrarian in me that wants to see them hurt each other after the thousands of posts of them being fluffy#I also find it fascinating that a lot of the fandom only views Skyfire of the ideal version of that Starscream has of him#and not anything else that he does#dont get me wrong#I love OOC stuff (my entire blog is pretty ooc) but I never see anyone really acknowledge this#Seriously theres a Skyfire only edit and the comments bring up Starscream who is not in the edit at all#imagine skyfire irl trying to talk about his scientific endeavors and all anyone brings up is his shitty ex lmao#Also this is only in the g1 cartoon#transformers#transformers g1#Skyfire#transformers g1 cartoon#character analysis#Starscream#text#im just talking tag#I wanted to babble about this for inspiration later but posted it in case anyone else wants some inspiration
31 notes
¡
View notes
Text
Tales from the Flat Earth by Tanith Lee
A few thoughts on the supposed similarities with The Sandmanâwith actual comparisons (and a summary of the most important beats for those who want it)âŚ
[This post is super long. It contains a lot of different thoughts, thatâs why I broke it down into three parts: 1. General Considerations, 2. Borosonâs Claims and 3. A beat-by-beat summary of all five volumes of Tales from the Flat Earth. You might want to read this in instalments, or you might want to leave part three if you are still planning to read any of the five volumes.]
Part One: General Coniderations
By now, many of you will have heard of Tanith Leeâs series âTales from the Flat Earthâânot because the world all of a sudden woke up to a literary genius, but because of a Facebook post by Matthew Boroson in the immediate aftermath of the sexual assault allegations against Neil Gaiman. Boroson now made a further statement that he will âdelete [âŚ] challenges so he can liveâ. I completely get the exhaustion of a post going viralâbeen there, got the T-Shirtâbut why not just ignore it? Switch off notifications or comments altogether? Actively censoring only the people with different opinions, whom he even admits have mostly been engaging in good faith, because âhe canât do this 24/7â, while leaving up those in agreement (apparently he can do that 24/7)? He might not have thought through how bad this looks, and the irony of a man silencing dissenting voices and trying to control the conversation really shouldnât be lost on people. But apparently, it is.
Anyway: I have absolutely no desire to defend Neil Gaiman. As should be clear from my blog, I stand with Gaimanâs victims and have done so since last summer when the allegations first broke. I believe those women, for both personal and professional reasons I wonât go into here. And I believe them, whether some author guy tells me I should or not. What grates on me is that this overshadows whatâs actually important here, and Iâll get to why in a second.
I love Tanith Leeâs Tales from the Flat Earth and have read them first in the 1990s, and quite a few times since. For that very reason, I wish people would just read her work without trying to engage in a âgotchaâ that is still all about Gaiman and not her. She was a great and talented writer who deserves more than now forever being known as âthe woman whom Neil Gaiman plagiarisedâ. And to say it quite frankly: The sexual assault allegations can stand on their own and donât need a male writer telling us, verbatim, âI have no difficulty believing the accusations against him. Because I know â KNOW â that he has felt entitled to take what he wants from a woman, without her permission, and without any acknowledgement of her contributions.â
I canât even begin to say how problematic this statement is, for so many reasons. So all Iâll say is:
There is a certain tone-deafness in thinking a sexual assault claim holds even more weight because a male writer says, âSee, he did this, so you should also believe that.â We should believe SA victims. Full stop. We donât need wonky plagiarism or âinspiration without creditâ-claims to give them more weight. These two things shouldnât even be mentioned in the same sentence.
But all of that aside: Read Tanith Leeâs âTales from the Flat Earthâ because you are interested in a writer who crafted imaginative worlds in a florid prose-style that hearkens back to old fairy tales and Arabian Nights. If you only want to read it for a âgotchaâ, I might be able to spare you the arduous work, although I strongly recommend you read it to come to your own conclusions (go to the source yourself. And I honestly wish more people did before they just blindly believe things). Again, spare a thought though if Tanith deserves to be âthe woman NG plagiarisedâ to a new audience, because letâs be honestâthatâs the only reason why so many people now read her works.
And thatâs exactly why I thought so long and hard whether to even write this post, but there comes a point when people who actually know both works in depth need to speak up about the informational conformity bias that now has us at over 30,000 notes on Tumblr alone, all the while the person who put this into the world seems to actively censor anyone who dares to disagree. I get that Borosonâs claim is what a lot of people want to believe right now, but that doesnât make it more true. Someone even said that âmisinformation doesnât matter in this case because only the result does.â Thatâs an incredibly dumb and also dangerous statement, but Iâll leave it at that.
Horrible people can create good art. We donât need to pretend they were always hacks. We have to learn to sit with that cognitive dissonance and can disassociate ourselves from the creator regardlessâbecause heâs an abuser.
Part Two: Borosonâs Claims
With all of that out of the road, letâs have a closer look at all that Boroson alleges in his FB post; quotes are verbatim.
1. âDespite the fact that the main character â a byronic, pale, otherworldly, deity-like character - is the prince of night and dreams.â
Here, we already have the first bit of wrong information. Azhrarn is one of the Lords of Darkness. He is the Prince of Demons. He is evil-aligned. He is not a âprince of dreamsâ. He is âNightâs Masterâ because he only walks the earth at night, and sunlight is lethal (oh?) for him. He is really nothing like Dream. One is all about rules and responsibilities, the other is about inconsistency, wickedness, mischief, changing his mind on a whim and treating humans as playthings (which he repeatedly admits himself). You could build a much stronger case for similarities between Azhrarn and Lucifer/Iblis (and Loki if you wanted to go Norse) than Dream, because Azhrarn actually hates the gods, and Leeâs whole series builds very strongly on how he (and then someone else) tries to bring them down. And Azhrarn might be older than gods, but whether he is truly more powerful depends on how you look at itâhe even asks them for help at some point. Dream, on the other hand, is more than the gods. They begin in his realm, and they end there when people stop believing. Because gods come from the collective unconsciousâand thatâs who and what Dream is.
2. âDespite the fact that every time people see art depicting Tanith Lee's main character Azhrarn, they think it's Morpheus from the Sandman.â
This is interesting since the depiction Boroson chose for his FB claim is fanart. If you claim something like this, at least use original artwork, not works that have already gone through 20 subconscious filters. If you look at original art, you get this:
Azhrarn in the middle, Uhlume (Lord Death) to the right, Chuz (Lord Madness) to the left. And in the other picture, Azrharn in his eagle form. Which is just weird, soz. But thatâs why he has feathers on his garb.
Maybe thereâs a fleeting similarity in the one to the left, but thereâs also literally none in the one to the right. And if you have ever read any dark fantasy of the 1980s and 90s (and even earlier), pretty much the majority of male protagonists fitted the stereotype of âpale, clad in black and byronicâ. It was a dark fantasy tropeâgoths read that stuff in droves (I was one of them). And it became even more likely if the hero/antihero/villain was somehow aligned with the underworld. Which Azhrarn is.
And since artists are always influenced by other artworks and their own mental image of a character, have an actual description of Azhrarnâs looks from âNightâs Masterâ:
âmarvelously handsome, with hair that shone like blue-black fire, and clothed in all the magnificence of night.â
But we also get this when he makes a not so great experience:
âHe gazed to east and west, to north and south, and the face of Azhrarn, it is truly said, had become white. Long he looked, and long his pallor increased. A mortal man could not grow so pale and live.â
So we can reasonably deduce that he isnât usually as white as Morpheus in his main form (I donât know what else to call it)?
There are many other descriptions of a similar ilk. Is this really enough to say they look the same? Really? Instead of admitting that we might be filling in some blanks here if descriptions are so vague?
3. âDespite the fact that the dream lord's younger sibling is Death.â
That one truly made me laugh out loud. Apart from the fact that Gaimanâs Death is older and female (which one could say was a purposeful switch to âhide the tracksâ đ)âonly the least read people would assume this was in any way new or sensational and âborrowedâ from any one particular writer. Hypnos (Sleep) and Thanatos (Death) are twin brothers in Greek mythology. And the closeness of Death and Dream in The Sandman (both conceptually and on a relational level) is much more of a mirror of that than the relationship between Azhrarn and Uhlume in Tales from the Flat Earth, because in all honesty: The latter two donât get on that well, which Boroson conveniently forgets to mention. Their relationships are really nothing alike.
Hypnos is also a deity residing in the underworld, and you have to cross the river Lethe (forgetfulness/oblivion) to get to him. Lee borrows from that idea very heavily when she tells the story of Kazir visiting Azhrarn in Underearth. These are myths, told and retold by hundreds of writers over and over again, including Lee herself.
I donât even know what to say about this one. Itâs so thin that it immediately blows away if you as much as cough at it.
4. âDespite the fact that other members of his family include Delusion, Delirium.... They are not gods but beings older than gods, and when the gods die, Dream, Death, Delusion, and Delirium will remain. This family of immortal, eternal, unchanging beings, who each embody an eternal abstraction starting with the letter D.â
There are only two Lords of Darkness beginning with a D, and they are called Uhlume (Death) and Chuz (Delusion). Azhrarn is Wickedness.
There is no Dream, as I already stated. And guess what? There is also no separate Delirium. So wrong facts again. The character is Deliriumâs Mistress (or at least thatâs the title of the volume), and in that case, we are referring to her as being the lover of Chuz (so Delusion and Delirium are effectively the same person). And her name is Azhriaz; she is half human, half demon (and something else, but that would be too spoilery) and Azhrarnâs daughter. She looks like this in original artwork (sorry for the crappola photo):
Without wanting to give too much plot away because some of you might still want to read this: There are three Lords of Darkness (or one could argue fiveâmore about that later) in Leeâs Tales, but they donât all begin with a Dâneither if you look at their names (their initials are A, U, C, K and A), nor at their functions (in which case itâs W, D, D, F and L).
Okay, the domains of two Lords of Darkness start with D. Is it really enough to be sure Gaiman borrowed from it, turning it into seven? Or is it perhaps far more likely that this still falls into the realm of literary archetypes? And even if Gaiman did expand on that ideaâthatâs not plagiarism (which, to say it very clearly, Boroson didnât explicitly say it was. He just implied it a bit between the lines, and other people who probably didnât read either ran with it). I donât think it would even constitute âheavy borrowingâ, especially since the characters, their relationships and the stories as such are so, so different.
Why is Borosonâs account riddled with inaccuracies? Why be so wrong in your descriptions of a work you supposedly know so well? I really donât know. Itâs either that he doesnât know it as well as he says he does (which I canât imagine, since heâs apparently been going on about this for years), or he purposefully misrepresents it to add more weight to it. Which looks bad to be honest. Or at least as if heâs a bit too taken with an idea and at the stage where he canât let it go anymore.
5. â[âŚ] description of a character who was clearly the inspiration for Gaimanâs Mazikeen.â
Thatâs also Chuz. As depicted in the art above, and also here:
One side of him is young and beautiful, the other old. Iâll let you decide if this is clearly the inspiration for Mazikeen:
âSo she beheld the entire aspect of his face, one half youthfully bronzed, one half haggardly gray, the rusty hair and the blond, but it seemed to her it was the most natural face she had ever looked on.â
And to say it quite frankly: Framing it like that is a bit dishonest to start with? Itâs not the description of âa characterâ. Itâs the volumeâs protagonist. Whom Boroson earlier insisted was the inspiration for Delirium (also a bit wonky that one, as I already wrote, since I bet most of the people who donât know Leeâs work pictured her Delirium as a woman after reading Borosonâs account). But now itâs Mazikeen all of a sudden? Leaving out heâs actually talking about the same character here looks like wilfully obfuscating that neither of it truly holds water, so heâs picking little bits and offers them without context.
Mazikeen is a visual creation of Kelley Jones btw, so maybe Boroson should also take it up with him? The same could be said to everyone who might feel tempted to shoehorn a certain other character (DCâs Destiny) into this, woefully forgetting that Destiny is not a character created by Gaiman. He has existed in the DC Universe years before Lee wrote Tales from the Flat Earth. I donât hear anyone complaining that Lee stole Kheshmet/Fate from DC because it would be quite frankly idioticâthese are literary archetypes!
6. âThe prose, the characters, the narrative strategies, the mythology, the story structure, all of it: Gaiman found it all in Tanith Lee's writing and never gave her any credit.â
The prose is really hard to compare because one is a novel, the other a comic. I really recommend you read both yourself so you get the full picture, but just two examples here:
Tanith Lee:
âA mile from the enameled walls of the city, where the desert lay gleaming like golden glass, a beautiful woman sat in a stone tower, and she played with a bone.
âWill he come to me today?â she asked the bone, rocking it in her arms like a child. âOr will he seek me tonight? All the stars will shine, but he will shine more brightly. For sure, he dare not come by day, for he would outshine the sun. The sun would die of shame, and the whole world grow dark. But oh, he will come. Nemdur,â said the beautiful woman, âNemdur, my lord.â
Her name was Jasrin; Nemdur was the king whose city stood one mile to the east. Once, he had been her husband.
No longer.â
Neil Gaiman:
As someone whoâs read both many times over, my personal assessment is:
They are not very alike. Lee writes floridly, Gaiman is often fairly to the point. Even in Ramadan, which is one (out of 75!) issues that closest resembles the style of Arabian Nights (which is Leeâs inspiration), his voice seems distinct to meâas is hers. Leeâs prose always struck me as great, Gaimanâs as good (I always loved his world building more than his actual writing style). I think Leeâs prose is more accomplished, but thatâs personal taste.
Characters: I already expanded on it.
Narrative strategy: This is so vague. Does he mean perspective? Point of view? Other narrative strategies like foreshadowing?
Since I donât know what exactly Boroson is referring to because he likes to keep it nebulous, I really canât say, but I donât think the way the stories are told are in any way alike. And where they seem similar (âNightâs Masterâ, as an example, is told as interconnected stories in the style of Arabian Nights with a throughline. And of course the Sandman also contains some interconnected stories with a throughline, although they are in no way reminiscent of Arabian Nights to me, bar Ramadan), I seriously have to ask again:
Do we believe only one writer utilises these strategies and/or has a monopoly on them? Because there are truly only so many of them to go around. And we could say that Leeâs ânarrative strategyâ is hardly unique either. This is just a bit silly.
Mythology: Just no. Both Lee and Gaiman use themes that have been there a million times before them, I already brushed on it. Both lean heavily into existing mythologies, with Gaiman more into Greek, and Lee into Near- and Middle Eastern one (especially Mesopotamian/Babylonianâthere are some parallels between her characters and deities like Nergal, Sin/Nanna and Ninazu), although they both also use others. But the bottom line is: Both have expanded on long existing mythologies.
Story structure: Again, what is Boroson insinuating here? He is truly the master of vagueness.
To say it very directly: The story structure is not the same. If you look at The Sandman in its entirety, itâs a clear three act tragedy with a lot of Heroâs Journey thrown-in. The fact that itâs told in 10 arcs changes nothing about thatâyou can clearly make out Campbellâs stages, like Call to Adventure, Crossing the First Threshold, Belly of the Whale⌠you name it. This is long enough already, but look at Campbellâs Heroâs Journey, and itâs fairly obvious (and no, the hero doesnât always have to survive).
Tales from the Flat Earth have a throughline in their five volumes, but they are connected more loosely, with the odd referential throwback. Only âDelusionâs Masterâ and âDeliriumâs Mistressâ have an ongoing narrative (of sorts). âNightâs Sorceriesâ always seemed like an afterthought of material Lee would have liked in volume four but couldnât fit in. They are all told in a way that hearkens back to oral storytelling (hence Lee saying she was inspired by 1001 Nights), and there is a clear sense of an unchanging, but not personally involved storyteller/narrator all the way through who sometimes even offers commentary.
7. âTanith Lee was far more progressive about Igbtq+ identities, and that was twenty years earlier.â
Well, for starters: Ten years earlier (âNightâs Masterâ was published in 1978, the first issue of The Sandman in 1988).
Is Tales from the Flat Earth truly more progressive? Iâm not sure. Both were progressive for their time, simply because they wrote about LGBTQ+ characters at all and gave them a voice. And to put it in a disclaimer: I donât apply moral purity standards to fiction, neither do I believe certain things that would be problematic in real life canât be written about in fiction (and dare I say: I find that take worrying, for many reasons, but thatâs a different discussion). But if weâre talking about âprogressivenessâ:
A clearly bisexual Demon Prince grooms a child to then seduce him on his 16th birthdayâin a time when gay men were often still thrown into one pot with groomers and even pedophiles?
A lesbian queen who basically gets cursed to have sex with many, many men because only a pregnancy can lift that curse (!), finds out she is barren and can only conceive if she has sex with a dead guy, makes a deal with Uhlume who then brings a man back from the dead so she can be impregnated and then, via many many twists and turns, turns into [Iâll tell you later if you really want to know]?
I donât know, but itâd probably be the same people who find certain angles of the Sandman problematic who would also bolt or get outraged at this? And they would 100% engage in the same type of revisionist readings they now apply to Gaimanâs works if they ever found out that Lee did anything wrong. There is a lot, and I mean a lot, of rape, SA and questionable power dynamics in Leeâs work. But itâs also a work of fiction.
8. In the 1990s, toward the end of her life, she complained in an interview that magazines weren't buying her stories anymore.
Thatâs a bit nebulous again. Itâs amazing how some people never quote their sources. I am near certain that Boroson talks about this interview from 1998, but I stand corrected if itâs a different one:
Tanith talks about her troubles getting published, but she also says itâs a hard time for everyone right now. Plus, her bibliography also clearly indicates she still got published on the regular, and that the amount of works published in any given year didnât really fluctuate all that much apart from a burst in the â70s (and âburstâ refers to the difference of publishing four books instead of two per year), a dip towards the end of her life (when her output was probably affected by her illness) and then the sad thing that always happens when someone dies: Suddenly, thereâs another uptick.
Someone even went through the trouble of visualising her published works in a graph:
Courtesy of Das_Mime
Does this honestly look like no one published her anymore?
Now, donât get me wrong: Of course it is a nice gesture if those more successful put in a word for those who find themselves in a bit of dry spot. But to turn this almost into some conspiracy theory is just a bit weird if Iâm honest. Itâs much more likely that people are simply not on someoneâs radar than that they are actively trying to hinder their career. Writing is hard. Getting published is hard, even if you already have a few published works under your belt. Ask me how I knowâŚ
These were the points Boroson made that I wanted to address directly. For those of you who want to get a feel if the story as such is actually in any way similar enough to even call it heavy borrowing, Iâll now do a summary of all major story beats for all five volumes.
Part Three: Tales from the Flat Earth Beat-by-Beat
I assume that most of my followers are familiar with The Sandman, but only a few with Tanith Lee. Hence I wonât do a summary of The Sandman, and once again: You really have to read both works yourself to understand why Borosonâs claims are so far out there. Iâm more than willing to discuss and answer questions that come in good faith, but Iâll say it outright: I am not interested in engaging with anyone who just comes here to peddle conspiracy theories and platitudes like âmisinformation doesnât matter in this case becauseâŚâ if they havenât even read the works in question.
Just as a quick hint, because thatâs where youâll find the superficial similarities (and thatâs my phrasing it with the utmost goodwill):
If you want to compare the entirety of both works, thereâs no way around reading both.
For âNightâs Masterâ, Iâd argue you also need to read the entirety of The Sandman, because in a nutshell, it is, at least at first glance, about the heel-face-turn of its protagonist. Youâll need at least Preludes and Nocturnes and The Kindly Ones, but it makes no sense to read them separately, soâŚ
For âDeathâs Masterâ, maybe read The Dollâs House and Season of Mists, because it is partly about a queen who wants to save her land (everything else would be too spoilery, but just so much: The similarities are fleeting at best, and thatâs already generous).
For âDelusionâs Masterâ: Again The Dollâs House and Season of Mists, because at its very core we have a love story that gets torpedoed by a traitor. But other than that, said love story is truly nothing alike.
For âDeliriumâs Mistressâ: Honestly, I thought long and hard about this. I really donât know because it is so different from the Sandman that I see absolutely no parallels at all. Maybe read Brief Lives, because there is something in there about parent/child relationships. But they are hardly unique in literature, so once again: I truly donât know how anyone could find similarities here. And The Kindly Ones would be such an immense stretch that I wonât even go there.
For âNightâs Sorceriesâ: There are three stories that give a bit of context to the rest. If anything, Iâd say read The Wake. But that would actually be insinuating Azhriaz is Daniel, and Iâm like⌠no, massive stretch. If itâs just about loosely connected stories that somewhat fit into a greater narrative, read âWorldâs Endâ. But if weâre thinking thatâs already a similarity, I truly cry for literary analysisâŚ
Briefly about the world weâre in: The Flat Earth basically consists of four planes: Upperearth, home of the gods; Earth (the Earth of humans before it changed shape); Underearth, home of Azhrarn, Prince of Demons and Wickedness; Innerearth, home of Uhlume, Lord Death. Azhrarnâs kingdom, Druhim Vanashta, houses three classes of demons: Vazdru (most like Azhrarn himself, beautiful and prone to change into eagles and other animals), Eshva (basically mute servants to the Vazdru who can change gender at will) and Drin (ugly, exclusively male creatures and accomplished creators of beautiful and practical things). All three demon kind frequently visit earth to tempt and create chaos.
Volume One: Nightâs Master
Nightâs Master begins with Azhrarn finding a dying woman and her newborn son, Sivesh, on a hillside. After her death, Azhrarn becomes captivated by the beauty of the child and takes him back to Underearth to raise him (and then promptly seduces him on his 16th birthday). Azhrarn then creates a woman called Ferazhin from a flower for Sivesh (because, you know, Azhrarn thinks itâs good sport to sample a woman. As one does). However, nothing can prevent Sivesh from longing to live on earth because he is human, and the decision to leave Azhrarn for a life in the light offends the Demon Prince. So he consciously tricks him into death by drowning (by chapter three).
The next storyline shifts to a collar (crafted by a Drin) from Ferazhinâs tears because she is inconsolable. We follow the collar around on its journey to different owners (who all meet a gruesome end in one way or another). The final owner, the blind bard Kazir, is the only one not to get corrupted by it, and we conclude the first book with his journey to Underearth to give the collar back to Azhrarn in exchange for Ferazhin, whom he loves without ever having met her. Azhrarn agrees to let Ferazhin go if Kazir can answer a particular question, which he can (not going to get too deep into that, apart from: Azhrarn is rattled, and weâll revisit it at the end of this volume). Kazir and Ferazhin are happy for a while, but as usual, Azhrarn changes his mind, and by the end of it, Ferazhin is dead (a bit of a nod to Romeo and Juliet in there, but that just as an aside). But lo and behold, Kazir manages to bring her back after a while, and âsomewhere perhaps, some dark door slammed like thunder in a city underground.â
Book Two of Nightâs Master focuses on Zorayas, who survived the overthrow of her father (a king) as a newborn but suffered severe disfigurement. After the death of the monk who took care of her, she seeks revenge for being raped by a Prince and takes back her fatherâs kingdom with the help of the Drin. And, as usual, she meets her demise through trickery orchestrated by Azhrarn.
Book Three. Azhrarnâs cruel prank on a young married couple goes wrong, escalates and ultimately leads to humanity teetering on the brink of destruction (the remnants of the husband turn into Hatred and wipe out everything). After seeking intervention from the gods of Upperearth in vain, Azhrarn makes, for once, a sacrifice to preserve humanityâs existence. But does he do so completely selflessly? Could be argued, and I guess Kazir knew, but thatâd be too much of a spoiler⌠Suffice it to say, Earth enters an age of innocence without the presence of hatred and wickedness. Until⌠đ¤Ł
Volume Two: Deathâs Master
Narasen, Queen of Merh, is sexually assaulted by the magician Issak. Feigning cooperation, she manages to kill him. Before he dies, he curses Narasen and Merh, declaring that both will become barren. The curse can only be lifted if Narasen (we have deduced at this point that she is a lesbian because she âdoesnât lie with menâ) gives birth to a child, but includes a stipulation that prevents this solution: âYour reluctant womb will never quicken from the seed of living man.â After numerous attempts to conceive, Narasen, driven by her desire to save her land and people, makes a deal with Uhlume to conceive a child from a dead man. In return, Narasen agrees to spend a thousand years in Uhlumeâs kingdom. Narasen is poisoned shortly after childbirth.
After Narasen is locked in her tomb with her newborn child Simmu, Uhlume arrives to claim her, leaving the child behind. However, Simmu is rescued by two passing Eshva and lives with them by night. Simmu develops Eshva abilities, like changing gender at will. Eventually, the Eshva grow tired of Simmu and leave him at a temple near Merh, where he grows up among monks and becomes friends and later lovers with a boy called Zhirem.
Simmu and Zhirem eventually become separated and somewhat turn into the tools of Azhrarn (Simmu hates Death because he remembers him coming for his mother) and Uhlume, respectively.
Meanwhile, Uhlume and Narasen donât get on too wellâNarasen sets herself up as Lady Death and constantly struggles for power. To get her off his back, Uhlume grants her permission to spend a day in Merh, where she promptly destroys her city (yeah, after all that troubleâŚ). Upon her return, she gradually takes over the supervision of Innerearth from Uhlume and turns into âLady Death.â
Azhrarn saves Simmu during Narasenâs attack on Merh. He instructs Simmu to obtain water from the Cistern of Life (a little throwback to volume one). His plan is to kill Uhlume, hence bringing death to an end. The well is guarded by nine virgins called the Golden DaughtersâSimmu makes use of his gender-changing abilities and sneaks into each of their chambers as a woman and then takes their virginity as a man. With their virginity taken, the well cracks, and Simmu founds the City of Simmurad (populated by immortal humans) with the golden daughter Kassafeh (too long-winded to get into it all).
Zhirem has embarked on his own adventures and eventually returns to Earth as the magician Zhirek. He agrees to serve Uhlume, who plans to destroy Simmurad, perceiving it as a threat. With the guidance of Azhrarn, who has grown weary of Simmu and Simmurad (you see, Azhrarn is not very consistent and doesnât abide by rules nor responsibilities like our boy Morpheus đ), Uhlume lets Zhirek destroy the city by submerging it under water after re-introducing death via creating and killing an insect. Simmu seemingly dies at the hands of Zhirek, who casts him into a well of fire. Zhirek retires into solitude, and Simmu is ultimately saved by Azhrarn, who transforms him into an Eshva and erases all memories of his past.
The story concludes with Narasen effectively ruling Innerearth and giving death, while Uhlume spends most of his time on Earth, finding solace in the presence of Kassafeh.
Volume Three: Delusionâs Master
Weâre starting with a tale about Jasrin, the young wife of King Nemdur of Sheve. Because she is jealous of her newborn child, she abandons him in the desert, where he gets killed by a lion. Nemdur banishes Jasrin to a tower, where her sanity gradually deteriorates. She is visited by Chuz, the Prince of Madness (the third Lord of Darkness). Inquiring about her deepest desires, Jasrin expresses her wish for her husband to share her madness. Nemdur awakens with a crazy plan to construct a towering structure that reaches Upperearth (where the gods live). Inspired by the legend of Simmu, he envisions attaining immortality. The Tower of Babyhelu, aptly named âThe Gate to the Gods,â grows and grows until it becomes unstable due to its immense weight, causing it to collapse with catastrophic consequences: The fall of the entire kingdom of Sheve.
Azhrarn and a few of his demons are drawn to the commotion, and a conversation between him and Chuz reignites Azhrarnâs disdain for the gods, who had failed to assist him in âNightâs Masterâ.
Hundreds of years later, we meet 7,000 pilgrims on their journey across the desert to worship the gods at Bhelsheved (Sheve rebuilt). Azhrarn is incensed that his sacrifice to save humanity in âNightâs Masterâ is credited to the gods. Disguised as a prophet, he reveals that a Lord of Darkness (not the gods) is the true saviour of humanity. For this, he is lashed with a whip and sheds three drops of blood. Azhrarn continues with his quest to destroy Bhelsheved but is unexpectedly diverted by the beauty of a young priestess named Dunizel. Recognising Azhrarnâs true intentions, Dunizel bravely offers to sacrifice herself to appease his wrath. Azhrarn turns into a wolf and bites off her lower arm, but when she encourages him to bite again instead of showing terror, he hesitates. Reminiscing about his own sacrifice to Hatred, he changes his mind, heals her with his own blood, and falls deeply in love with her.
We then learn the story of Dunizelâs mentally disabled mother, who was held captive by the assistant of an astronomer (who was on a field trip to observe a comet passing by). After impregnating the girl, the assistant attempted to abort the child by exposing her to the cometâs energy as it passed. The girl was instead exposed to a rainbow of light captured by the astronomerâs magical engine, regained her sanity and gave birth to Dunizel, who was also affected by the cometâs light. Dunizelâs mother raised her but gradually transformed into a fire elemental and ascended into the sky. The assistant gave Dunizel to a grieving mother from a nearby village, who raised her until she was chosen to join the religious cult (like her mother, she is also part solar being).
We are panning back to the love story of Dunizel and Azhrarn. Dunizel gives birth to a daughter named Soveh, who is initially mistaken for a goddess on Earth and grows at unnatural speed. Through the workings of Chuz though, the truth about the childâs paternity is revealed, and Dunizel dies at the hands of an angry mob (she also comes into contact with one of the drops of blood Azhrarn had formerly shed in the desert). Devastated, Azhrarn takes Soveh, whom he renames Azhriaz, to Underearth. Before he departs, he addresses Chuz and declares their relationship as âun-brothers, un-cousins, and now, un-friendsâ. He also reveals he will go to war with him and considers it a kindness he has informed him in advance.
The story concludes with Chuz finding Jasrin, who is haunting her tower, and releasing her.
Volume Four: Deliriumâs Mistress
So if you waited for this to start with all-out war between Azhrarn and Chuz, youâll be disappointed. We meet Oloru, a court jester to tyrannical prince Lak Hezoor. Oloru convinces Lak Hezoor to take him on a sightseeing tour of Underearth. Itâs not going wellâLak Hezoor is torn apart by Azhrarnâs red hounds. Oloru transforms into a âslender rod of yellow radiation, vaguely purplishly limnedâ and flies towards the island where young adult Azhriaz has been sleeping since her arrival in Underearth (itâs a been a few years). Oloru, who is actually Chuz in disguise, awakens her, convinces her to escape, and takes her back to Earth. And of course they become lovers.
Kheshmet (King Fate) enters the story, just like that, and in no time, Azhrarn arrives and ends his quarrel with Chuzâ also just like that. But to atone, Chuz has to agree to live a mortal lifetime, disfigured, without his powers and truly mad. Azhriaz initially stays with Chuz, but he forgets who she is.
Azhriaz, now without Chuz, despairs. She visits her motherâs grave with Khesmet and decides to embrace her fatherâs legacy: discrediting the gods. She replaces a king who committed suicide and ascends to the status of a cruel goddess on Earth, conquering much of the world who revels in her cruelty. Her teachings to humanity are that the gods care nothing for them: âRemember, to the gods, you are nothing. To Azhriaz, the Goddess, you are only grains of dust or sand.â
Khesmet arrives to foretell a looming war with sea and sky.
And weirdly, that war starts because a god, whom Azhrarn kissed in âNightâs Masterâ, awakens and decides that was sacrilege, plus heâs also not pleased with Azhriazâs activities on Earth. The gods consequently hurl three shards into the sun that transform into three angelsâthe Malhukim of the gods: Ebriel, Yabael and Melquar. Azhrarn holds the angels at bay while Azhriaz escapes into the ocean aboard a special fish-ship crafted by the Drin, pursued by Ebriel and Yabael. Azhrarn fights Melquar in the air and narrowly avoids incineration. Azhriaz escapes imprisonment in an underwater city when Yabael destroys it with his sword. She receives no assistance from Azhrarn because he lies in a death-like coma in Druhim Vanashta and has been usurped by the demon Hazrond. Eventually, Azhrarn recovers and reclaims his kingdom. Azhriaz is still pursued by Yabael, who conveniently undergoes a transformation and forgets his mission in the process. Then pursued by Ebriel, she travels with Dathanja (Zhirek making a reappearance) and ultimately engages in an eternal battle with the angel. Realising sheâll be otherwise stuck there forever, she convinces Ebriel to stop by revealing her plan to give up her immortality.
Ebriel departs, snd Azhriaz (who is actually called Atmeh at this point, but thatâd lead too far) seeks out Kassafeh for a bargain with Uhlume (who is in the process of abdicating to Narasen) to become mortal. She reunites with Chuz, who has paid his penance, and they stay together for a while until Chuz helps her with her final transformation into a mortal woman.
Atmeh/Azhriaz approaches death after 200 years or so, and is visited by Azhrarn, who tells her, âHumanity is my plaything no longer, only a toy for those that are mine under the earth. But you, you are her child. You are hers. You are Dunizel. Not mine. Never mine. Though I made you to be my curse upon the world. Though I made you to be myself. You are Dunizel, that I loved, Dunizel who was the moon and sun together.â Azhrarn expresses his sadness over his inability to cry, and Azhriaz responds: âEach word you have spoken has been a tear.â
Volume Five: Nightâs Sorceries
I wasnât sure if I should even go into this one, because âDeliriumâs Mistressâ always seemed like the final volume to me to be honest, and it concluded the story for me. âNightâs Sorceriesâ is a collection of short stories that seem connected to âDeliriumâs Mistressâ and fill in some gaps (thatâs why each of them has an introduction that explains where we are, and when). So I will only go into three of them (there are seven altogether):
âThe Prodigalâ is essentially about Narasenâs reign as Queen Death.
âDooniveh, The Moonâ is written like a fairy tale about a monk from Nannafir. He travels to the moon on a winged horse, and by the end of his adventures, we witness the wedding of the Moon Queen and the Sun King. And thatâs connected how? Well, the winged horse was a gift from Hazrond (who usurped Azhrarn) to Azhriaz.
âThe Daughter of the Magician,â recounts the tale of a magician who successfully resurrects the soul of Azhriaz. But the child, named Ezail, ends up being offered as a sacrifice to a monster. And thatâs connected how? Well, the monster was created as the counterpart of the winged horse in âDooniveh, The Moon.â But Ezail regains Azhriazâ memory and lo and behold, Chuz just happens to appear in the reincarnation of a young boy named Chavir. Together, they decide to take the monster with them and embark on a life together.
The main reason I did include this volume is that it somewhat puts the former four in context. The last sentence of âNightâs Sorceriesâ is:
âLove is also an immortal.â
Which somewhat suggests that Azhriaz is operating on the same plane as Azhrarn, Uhlume, Chuz and Kheshmet. And we already get hints at that in the other volumes.
In âDelusionâs Masterâ, Azhrarn says to Dunizel that their child will be his feminine aspect. Itâs just ambiguous enough, but we also get this in âDeliriumâs Mistressâ when Azhrarn wonders about love: âThere is no such commodity. There is carnality, our plaything. There is worship, and there is obsession. Death you may perceive walking the world, and Fate, and Delusion, too, in a form that I have kindly granted him. But no man sees love, and no demon sees it.â
So while many of the stories of Tales from the Flat Earth can stand on their own, there is also an overarching theme: Establishing another power that serves to balance out the others: Wickedness, Death, Delusion, and FateâAzhriazâ four âsonsâ (cryptically mentioned in the final chapter of Deliriumâs Mistress)...
#the sandman#sandman#tales from the flat earth#tanith lee#neil gaiman#long post#an in-depth look at#Matthew Borosonâs claims#and a full summary of all five volumes of tales from the flat earth#sandman spoilers#tales from the flat earth spoilers
19 notes
¡
View notes
Note
12, 19, 24 for whichever fandom/character you wanna talk about
Fandom Ask Game
Bruh you are giving me too much power with picking my topics.
12. Whatâs the funniest or craziest AU idea youâve ever come up with?
See the problem with me is that, if I'm going to do a crossover, there's an 80% chance it's crack. And if it's not an absurdist crossover AU, I'm probably heading a group RP's Muffin AU (true story, this became a thing), or off-the-cuff riffing:
That same conversation had Number AU, BLT AU, and Sushi AU. Because everyone wants to see your favorite fandom characters except they're the numbers 8, 7, and 4.
So like. Take your pick for what's craziest. My goal in life is crack.
19. Whatâs your favorite thing about [fandom] (the people in it, not the media youâre all enjoying together)?
Oooooh I want to compliment all fandoms. I'll stick with the AU theme. I love how endlessly creative the Undertale fandom was in its heyday, and how the Undertale AUs themselves spawned into fully-fledged, agreed-upon 'canons'. Peeps got behind those AUs en masse. The fics? The fanart? The cosplays??? Yo bruh legit.
24. Whatâs your favorite thing about [character]?
Shoot. Uh. Guess I'm talking Undertale now? My favorite thing about Gaster is that we don't get answers. We only get tantalizing hints. Sometimes, the imagination is more powerful when you don't get answers. Scrambling after clues, assembling it ourselves, soaking in the mystery... the mystery wouldn't be fun if you were told the "truth." Yeah, there's a fandom hunger for more information at times, but I'll be real: I never want a full-out spilled story. Keep us theorizing. Keep us chomping at the crumbs.
#I'm not 100% who CAME UP came up with the muffin AU but I was there at the beginning and#we have talked about how it sounds like me sooOoOoOo#not taking credit but also acknowledging credit#Undertale#UT#blabbing Haddock#ask#ask me#fandom ask meme#ask meme#meme#frostyviking#fandom ask game#thanks for the prompts!
2 notes
¡
View notes
Text
Curly had two days to act and Swansea had two months.
I think itâs just interesting that every defense of Swansea not immediately acting are the same ones that are argued against for Curly. âHe didnât want to alert Daisuke or makes things worse for Anya either Jimmy!â I mean people also assume that about Curly and the crew. âHe has to think about his plan of action and a right moment!â Again so did Curly, power and authority aside, he still would have to think of what he had to do. âHe makes sure he doesnât have to be around Jimmy!â So did Curly and they only do this to an extent, both give Jimmy more than a few opening to keep harassing Anya.
This isnât defense of Curly nor a damnation of Swansea. Their actions are very parallel to each others in tragic and sour ways when it comes to how they approached helping Anya. In the grand scheme of it all they both did the same thing: Nothing. No action either took stopped the inevitable outcome of her death nor Jimmyâs continued damage to themself.
The only real difference is Swansea didnât like Jimmy which is pretty substantial, but also just as damning as Curly knowing how bad Jimmy could get to an extent. He had even less of a reason to wait, even more of a reason to act seeing as he was now worried for Anya AND Daisuke. He is not bound by the possible procedure as Captain and actively does not care about what happens next. So what does it matter if he acted in the moment? Why did he wait? I think heâs just as morally complex and grey as Curly and we hold him on a pedestal that still perpetuates things in rape culture the game critiques.
Itâs not just enough to dislike and be abrasive to predators/abusers like Jimmy. Itâs not enough to just put yourself between them and the other person. Itâs not enough to hold tensions when you know someone is vulnerable. He and Curly do the exact same things but on different sides of the coin. I ask how is it better to not turn a blind eye but still not really do anything about what you are seeing? Not until it affects you atleastâŚ
The game makes a big point to not put men doing the bare minimum or who wait to do more on pedestals and Iâm actually surprised so many are missing that point.
#like Iâm sorry two months? he couldnât have explained it at all to Daisuke?#heâs no better than Curly and itâs likely Anya found comfort in the fact that Jimmy would at least avoid being around Swansea#tho everything he went off to drink or passed out she would be acutely reminded that things are still taking precedent in his head#she is not his top concern nor is seeking justice for her like he is admittedly more concerned about Daisuke he doesnât mention her#outside of the fact that they were def talking about what Jimmy did and likely the fact he mightâve crashed the ship but pls donât mistake#his final acts as being majority for Anya. the game keeps showing how these men keep prioritizing things over her even when they say they#wonât and itâs sad itâs so sad that we keep trying to say but what about him like they all do it#itâs not intentional but thatâs whatâs also bad about it like I doubt she made a suicide plan with him two months in advance#these characters are acting to get out of this and she knows her ending is not happy if she leaves or not sheâs taking that choice to do it#and hell Swansea might not have known by the way he speaks to Daisuke and Jimmy that that was her plan to khs#likely either to just keep her and Curly locked in med bay until they got rescued or died#but itâs all speculation and thinking and I can only implore people to think why are you giving Swansea more credit?#cause I see him bittersweetly so used to the negatives he cares not for futile efforts#two months vs two days and each time nothing was really done for her other than prolonging her suffering around Jimmy#Swansea slept outside utility was drunk most of the time and itâs clear Jimmy was able to have access to Anya whenever#I mean look at the teaser where they sit at the table he is far from her with Daisuke#like itâs just frustration at this point thinking any guy on that ship was doing good by Anya specifically and not for their own reasons#like at least Curly was direct on the issue he still did mostly Jack shit but Swansea doesnât even let Jimmy know he knows#and thatâs another issue in rape culture of men avoiding calling other men what they are even if they hate them like#the game plays with the idea of knowing vs acknowledging and neither truly acknowledge it as a part of their actions#against Jimmy and god no one did better than Anya for Anya. they just werenât heinous like Jimmy#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#curly mouthwashing#captain curly#swansea mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing#nurse anya#itâs not all men but all men can and do play a part especially in the extreme scenario mouthwashing deposits
83 notes
¡
View notes
Text
im forcing you all to look shady-car-salesman erik
[What If Magneto Had Formed The X-Men With Professor X?]
#snap chats#DUDE WHAT IS THAT. I SCREAMED#also before any of you go read this dont it's so nothing. the title LIED it's the most nothing story ive read so far#thankfully this is only a one shot but man. i shouldve listened in that This Is Isn't Worth It#this is literally the only time erik's in the whole thing too btw bar a prologue recapping what happens in the og timeline#im so deadass like he also shows up in some bg shots but thats literally it he says nothing else beyond this page#'what if magneto formed the xmen with charles' god yeah what if. i sure wouldve loved to read that.#'what if they formed the xmen' genuinely yeah how did they do that. can we see that PLEASE.#the only perceivable difference is that erik lives at the x mansion and Probably isnt terrorizing people. and has this god forsaken look#i rescind my statement he's terrorizing ME with that beard and. //gestures everywhere else//#he looks like he's going to try to scam me into buying a shitty ferrari i cant ill take the viking beard just not this#also i think gaby and erik are just. inexplicably married????? they never cover that ???? thats just a thing to vaguely acknowledge#they dont even say it there's a book that's credited as 'erik magnus lehnsherr' and 'gabrielle haller lensherr' like ok. what.#they dont even properly tell us why eriks here or like. how erik and charles find the xmen. or why gaby's here vjeALKJEK#LIKE COOL HI GABS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE she's a mutant now. forgot about that. ???????????????#the weird plot did distract me from. Whatever This Is but now im focusing on it again and im dying#i think what's really killing me is the earrings like oh my god. wow ok. wow...... terrible choice !#if i squint i can imagine the ponytail's gone from his side profile and it's a lil better but ...... jljalKjalJA#anyway i said id read every xmen comic and. regretting some choices but we ball#for now im gonna go wind down ... maybe doodle a bit who's to say ..
41 notes
¡
View notes
Text
saw an anti posting about how (quote)"proshippers who "borrow" posts from antis give james somerton vibes... the "p" in proshipper stands for plagiarism i guess"(/quote)
like. buddy i think theres at least a LITTLE bit of a difference between "stealing someone's writing about important and sensitive subject(s) and profiting off of it in their stead" vs "copying and pasting someone's tumblr post in order to remove the borderline hate speech at the bottom of it in order to make others feel more welcome in their community"
#scary crane rambles#not fandom#proship#proshippers please interact#anti anti#antis dni#proselfship#proselfshipping#proship selfship#anti-anti#i dont think antis realize why bad things are bad tbh#like. the vast majority of the time. plagiarism is bad because you're taking someone else's work that they should be earning money from#and 1. taking complete credit for it; and 2. earning the profit from it that the original creator should be earning#and like. im sorry but i dont think youre earning any money from ''imagine your f/o'' posts#and you DO receive credit via the acknowledgement that the reposter didn't write the post themselves (albeit anonymously)#so quite literally. legally. it isn't plagiarism. its just as much plagiarism as using someone else's art as your pfp is#or using someone else's art on your pinned post or whatever#also there are actual changes made to these posts when theyre reposted: WE REMOVE THE FUCKING DEATH THREATS AND SUICIDE BAITING.#so yeah no not plagiarism. antis go fuck yourself challenge 2kforever#go enjoy things that dont involve harming real people over your shitty puritanical opinions regarding blorbo from OUR shows
28 notes
¡
View notes
Text
so I don't buy into the whole "Ford was a uniquely terrible person who ruined everyone else's lives because he was selfish" take that I see from time to time (thankfully getting less frequent) but I also think that if I try to write something from Ford's POV it's going to sound like I buy into that because of how Ford feels about things. I get the vibe that he largely repressed any guilt or regret he felt for, well, pretty much most of his life, and when he starts acknowledging some of the mistakes he did make and allows himself to feel that guilt it's going to overwhelm him at first. he's going to be biased
#I wholeheartedly believe that Fidds also apologized to Ford during their talk after Weirdmageddon#and explained how he had just as much an active role in his situation as Ford did#and Ford just... didn't write it down#he and Stan switch from getting stuck in a loop of blaming each other to stuck in a loop of blaming themselves#n e ways out of the mystery trio they all made terrible decisions and they all deserve credit for them#I hate those 'Ford ruined McGucket's life on his own' takes especially because it usually comes hand in hand with the#soft boy twinkification of Fidds. like. he CHOSE to come to gravity falls. Ford didn't force him#let McGucket have agency over his own actions dammit#let them all have their own agency while also acknowledging the ways in which they were dragged into things beyond their control#anyway#ford pines#I should see if I can actually go write smth now maybe
3 notes
¡
View notes
Text
Sorry but youngest siblings are the ones who have it worse
#you're expected to be oldest sibling 2.0 but without their flaws#you get picked on by your oldest sibling#you're kinda overlooked by the rest of the family#unless one of your parents prefers you#but even then all they can talk about is how they wish them and your eldest sibling were closer#and if you ever went to the same school as your eldest sibling. congrats your whole identity is *insert their name*'s youngest sibling#also your oldest sibling will get away with anything including spending their credit card limit every month and always getting home after#midnight. but you will get a lecture for taking an uber once instead of taking the subway like you do everyday#and your friends and classmates will all talk about how cool and awesome and better your sibling is#and you'll dedicate a good part of your young life trying to be better than them so you can get some acknowledgement... but you're not#allowed even that
45 notes
¡
View notes
Text
Regulus was THIS close to attaining the ultimate enlightenment of peak mathematics and I love that for her
#it's so funny like it's meant to be treated with such seriousness but I can't take it seriously at all#because of how Ceres just legit fukin popped out of the ground like an excited puppy after being acknowledge by someone as a planet#y'all never change Regulus you're so great#also am reminded that every single arcanist is just oddly informed of literary things that even Regulus knows such stuff like numbers#although that could just be coz she's a pirate and her lifestyle as a sailor validates the need to know about astrological navigation#it's just wild how even tho she's uneducated in an institute she still managed to find resources to fuel knowledge like that#i'll give all that credit to mr. APPLe
7 notes
¡
View notes
Text
me last semester: i am NOT taking four courses again! no way!
me now: *clown shoes jingling as i go to sign up for my fourth course*
#LISTEN.#this is DIFFERENT#i am looking at the syllabi FIRST this time#and one of them is just an English course which is nothing for me#i eat English courses for breakfast#one week the ONLY assignment is gathering sources and you get 100 points for it like. Bro.#and yeah Chem is gonna be hard but a lot of the assignments are just practice problems#which iâm sure are a pain in the ass - but if i work ahead they should be easy to keep up with????#and lab is lab. also a pain in the ass but not THAT time-consuming if itâs anything like Bio (which it looks to be)#so like. why NOT also take an introductory Wildlife course?#WHAT is the worst that could happen?#i mean⌠i probably shouldnât invite questions like thatâŚ#but like. itâs an extra two credits i could be getting NOW instead of busting my ass later!#seems like a good move to me!#and itâs stuff i really wanna know!#plus itâs only 9 credits not the TEN credits i took last semester#it WILL be a huge pain in the ass overall and i am acknowledging that#but iâm kind of willing to deal with that#cuz again - work now and chill later#THATâS the vibe right there#thatâs my final opinion
10 notes
¡
View notes
Text
Now that I have a desktop instead of a mid-2000s laptop that would take 20min to load every map, even a fast travel (not an exaggeration,) I decided now was a great time to ...... completely redo all of my Inquisitors from scratch.
on one hand. fuck that prologue demon. fuck the entirety of the exalted plains. "sEe ReASoN, lYseTTe." PLEASE WILL THE BEARS JUST LEAVE ME ALONE.
on the other!!! not to get goopy on 9yr old computer graphics, but have you PLAYED DA:I on ultra mesh settings?? OH MY GOD.
it's SO DIFFERENT when you're not on super low resolution and don't take 20min to change maps!!!! is this how y'all were living THE WHOLE TIME????
mods đ
From top to bottom we have:
Jem, my child-soldier templar
Persefene, my widowed Avvar Adaar
Chenelo, Edgelordâ˘
Maia, my Kirkwall throatcutter turned mom
Emmory, the hearthkeeper
AodhĂĄn, the agoraphobe
and Steven
NOT pictured, because they're perfect the way they are and I felt no need to tinker with them: Dain Cadash, the least qualified person here, and Esperantha Lavellan, the unfortunate heterosexual.
#dragon age#da:i#inquisitors: mine#also ... it's a good gameâ brent?#like maybe bc it used to take me months and years to progress the story but it feels cohesive to me now#and also after nine years all its ickier bits have been discussed into the ground#but it's more nuanced than i was giving it credit for?#like yeah you have to go digging for the nuance sometimes and deploy a little reading comprehension#i.e. how was this codex written? what's it's in-game source? what's that source trying to sell?#what does this npc say in the heat of the moment vs. what they say later when it's quieter#but that's what makes it fun????#ANYWAY#HI I'M ELIZABETH I'M A FAT HAPPY DRAGON ON A HOARD OF DRAGON AGE OCS#THANKS FOR LISTENING#elizabeth plays dragon age tag#also i acknowledge this makes it look like i have a lot of time on my hands but you need to understand that i have#the hinterlands down to an art at this point
5 notes
¡
View notes
Text
it's funny how your dream job eventually becomes your worst nightmare
#i think i've finally reached my limit#i always thought movies exaggerated the parts where someone would take credit for other ppl's work#but it's happened to me four times just this month#like im not even asking for much just acknowledge the time i spend solving everyones problems#and what i don't even get so much as a thank you???#instead all i get is more work and ppl asking why im not done with this or that project yet#i really wasted my 20s in this place huh#long post#also hi its been a while im sorry for the rant#ellie's rambling#personal
2 notes
¡
View notes
Text
I know I just rambled in the tag, but if you took the time to read all that, might I direct you to this post & my ramblings there as well~
Something about Zoro being one of the most misunderstood and mischaracterized characters in One Piece is funny (not haha funny, funny sad) to me because?? Thatâs literally how his introduction starts?? With people misunderstanding him and thinking heâs some big, monstrous demon who kills with cause and cannot be trusted or tamed.
Meanwhile the actual Zoro is a driven guy who is often both literally and figuratively directionless in life and found his goals in life through good people (first Kuina and then Luffy). He's tied up in the Marine base not due to those actual crimes he commuted (well not inherently anyway) but because he âdisrespectedâ a Captain's son and stood up for a little girl. He accepts the challenge they present to him and because Zoro himself is a guy that puts his money where his mouth is he assumes the Marines will uphold their end of the deal and let him go (note the actual shock when Koby tells him the truth)
He joins Luffy's crew but also outright says heâs not gonna let his goal take second place to Luffy or anyone else's for that matter, he bears the weight of two people's dreams, his heart isnât going to be swayed by some pirate.
Speaking of Kuina, her impact and influence on Zoro's life isnât talked about enough for my liking. She was Zoro's first friend, his first rival, his first goal. He looked up to her so much and his reaction to her passing cracks my heart in half every time because you can seem him just..go numb. Kuina, dead? Kuina, the strongest person he knows, gone? Kuina, who swore to him just yesterday theyâd race to the top of the world together, doesnât exist anymore. His blank face only cracking within the privacy of his sensei before he begs. He begs on his knees, tears streaming down his face please please please let me take Kuina's sword with me. Let me take our dream to a high neither of us could imagine. I wonât let her name die here.
On top of gaining the Wado Ichimonji that day Zoro also gainedâŚfear. Not of death, well at the very least not his own, he gained his fear of not being enough. Kuina kicked his ass every way a person could and still died, what could someone like him do? So he trainsâŚand trainsâŚand trains some more. Overly, obsessively, constantly telling himself heâs not enough, heâs weak, he canât protect anyone like this and everyone's death would be on him.
As for Zoro being cold and stoic thatâs justâŚnot completely true? Heâs not stone, he can be excited or sad or angry just as much as most characters he just sucks at showing it canonically (Kuina thinks he hates her before their final fight after all). Sure heâs not as forthcoming about it as some of the other Strawhats but Zoro's more of an action guy anyway, he'll show his love with his protection and unwavering faith.
In conclusion, Zoro is a ridiculously stubborn, incredibly loyal, mildly emotionally constipated, do what you say/say what you mean kinda guy.
(Also that whole âZoro would kill the whole crew if Luffy asked him toâ thing? Top ten stupidest things Iâve ever heard from the fandom and thatâs saying a lot. Heâs loyal not brainless and heartless guys if Luffy asked him to do that, he would never but I digress, Zoro would square the fuck up with him so fast. DPMO.)
#I think there's a lot of misunderstanding of Zoro's character within the One Piece Fandom (partly because let's be honest media literacy is#apparently not a common skill and tumblr do be the website where we piss on the poor lol)#I think there's this dumb fanon version of Zoro where people take memes about him a bit too seriously and start to view/characterize him as#this brainless uncaring stoic/emotionless cold dude who can't think for himself and is like a fucking zombie for Luffy#which I'm just like ?????????? bitch where?????? I know media literacy is hard đbut seriously are we even looking at the same source#material???? and the same character?????#I also think some people misunderstand how Zoro expresses his emotions tbh#He's someone who acts more than he speaks so he expresses a lot through action but that doesn't mean he can't or doesn't verbally express#his emotions or his wants and dreams in fact Zoro very clearly verbally expresses his feelings and dreams/goals quite a bit people just#choose to ignore or not acknowledge it because it doesn't fit into their funny fannon version of him#In a lot of ways Zoro just presents himself as a very traditional Japanese man when it comes it his emotions he's not super outward with#how he feels but it's very clear that he feels his emotions very deeply and cares very deeply for ALL of his friends#Zoro is very much a protector and there are many moments where we see him do a say things that make it VERY clear that he also has a clear#personal moral compass#he is a caring and compassionate character who while he /is/ rough and blunt at times is also soft (i'd like to site that one scene that#makes me cry when I think of it in Alabasta where Zoro washes Choppers back in the bath because that is such a soft and caring moment and a#very vulnerable thing to do I just ;-;) but while one of the most important things to Zoro is to protect his friends (which we see him do#over and over again without any instruction from Luffy - and I agree with op that it probably has A LOT to do with Kuina and the fact that#/he/ couldn't do anything to help or protect her and she despite her being the strongest person he knew she still died) Zoro still clearly#wants to and /does/ continue to pursue his dream#idk man I could write a whole essay about Zoro's character and how so many people don't seem to understand him or mischaracterize him which#is really sad because that happens to in in the actual series as well people make a lot of incorrect assumptions about Zoro#I think the in universe misconceptions/wrong assumptions about Zoro are very intentional on Oda's part tho#He wants the assumed view of Zoro as a cold hearted killer and a 'monster of a man' to be constantly contradicted by who Zoro actually is#and how he acts#I also find it so interesting how unbothered Zoro is by this perception of him by others because Zoro is a very self assured character#he knows who he is and while he has some pride it's not so fragile that he can't push it aside to see that he can be better#also op I can go on for a bit about how influential Kuina was to shaping Zoro into the person he is now and I agree that not enough people#talk about that or give their relationship enough credit#I have a whole side tangent about the way Zoro treats/acts towards women (ya know the thing that pisses off Sanji constantly) has A LOT to
238 notes
¡
View notes