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please help me- i used to be pretty smart but i’m having so much trouble grasping the concept of diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm!
gfkjldghfd okay first of all I'm sorry for the confusion, if you're not finding anything on the phrase it's because I made it up and absolutely nobody but me ever uses it, but I haven't found a better way to express what I'm trying to say so I keep using it. but now you've given me an excuse to ramble on about some shit that is only relevant to me and my deeply inefficient way of talking and by god I'm going to take it.
SO. the way diegetic and non-diegetic are normally used is to talk about music and sound design in movies/tv shows. in case you aren't familiar with that concept, here's a rundown:
diegetic sound is sound that happens within the world of the movie/show and can be acknowledged by the characters, like a song playing on the stereo during a driving scene, or sung on stage in Phantom of the Opera. it's also most other sounds that happen in a movie, like the sounds of traffic in a city scene, or a thunderclap, or a marching band passing by. or one of the three stock horse sounds they use in every movie with a horse in it even though horses don't really vocalize much in real life, but that's beside the point, the horse is supposed to be actually making that noise within the movie's world and the characters can hear it whinnying.
non-diegetic sound is any sound that doesn't exist in the world of the movie/show and can't be perceived by the characters. this includes things like laugh tracks and most soundtrack music. when Duel of Fates plays in Star Wars during the lightsaber fight for dramatic effect, that's non-diegetic. it exists to the audience, but the characters don't know their fight is being backed by sick ass music and, sadly, can't hear it.
the lines can get blurry between the two, you've probably seen the film trope where the clearly non-diegetic music in the title sequence fades out to the same music, now diegetic and playing from the character's car stereo. and then there are things like Phantom of the Opera as mentioned above, where the soundtrack is also part of the plot, but Phantom of the Opera does also have segments of non-diegetic music: the Phantom probably does not have an entire orchestra and some guy with an electric guitar hiding down in his sewer just waiting for someone to break into song, but both of those show up in the songs they sing down there.
now, on to how I apply this to bdsm in fiction.
if I'm referring to diegetic bdsm what I mean is that the bdsm is acknowledged for what it is in-world. the characters themselves are roleplaying whatever scenarios their scenes involve and are operating with knowledge of real life rules/safety practices. if there's cnc depicted, it will be apparent at some point, usually right away, that both characters actually are fully consenting and it's all just a planned scene, and you'll often see on-screen negotiation and aftercare, and elements of the story may involve the kink community wherever the characters are. Love and Leashes is a great example of this, 50 Shades and Bonding are terrible examples of this, but they all feature characters that know they're doing bdsm and are intentional about it.
if I'm talking about non-diegetic bdsm, I'm referring to a story that portrays certain kinks without the direct acknowledgement that the characters are doing bdsm. this would be something like Captive Prince, or Phantom of the Opera again, or the vast majority of bodice ripper type stories where an innocent woman is kidnapped by a pirate king or something and totally doesn't want to be ravished but then it turns out he's so cool and sexy and good at ravishing that she decides she's into it and becomes his pirate consort or whatever it is that happens at the end of those books. the characters don't know they're playing out a cnc or D/s fantasy, and in-universe it's often straight up noncon or dubcon rather than cnc at all. the thing about entirely non-diegetic bdsm is that it's almost always Problematic™ in some way if you're not willing to meet the story where it's at, but as long as you're not judging it by the standards of diegetic bdsm, it's just providing the reader the same thing that a partner in a scene would: the illusion of whatever risk or taboo floats your boat, sometimes to extremes that can't be replicated in real life due to safety, practicality, physics, the law, vampires not being real, etc. it's consensual by default because it's already pretend; the characters are vehicles for the story and not actually people who can be hurt, and the reader chose to pick up the book and is aware that nothing in it is real, so it's all good.
this difference is where people tend to get hung up in the discourse, from what I've observed. which is why I started using this phrasing, because I think it's very crucial to be able to differentiate which one you're talking about if you try to have a conversation with someone about the portrayal of bdsm in media. it would also, frankly, be useful for tagging, because sometimes when you're in the mood for non-diegetic bodice ripper shit you'd call the police over in real life, it can get really annoying to read paragraphs of negotiation and check-ins that break the illusion of the scene and so on, and the opposite can be jarring too.
it's very possible to blur these together the same way Phantom of the Opera blurs its diegetic and non-diegetic music as well. this leaves you even more open to being misunderstood by people reading in bad faith, but it can also be really fun to play with. @not-poignant writes fantastic fanfic, novels, and original serials on ao3 that pull this off really well, if you're okay with some dark shit in your fiction I would highly recommend their work. some of it does get really fucking dark in places though, just like. be advised. read the tags and all that.
but yeah, spontaneous writer plug aside, that's what I mean.
#I found their original stuff while I was researching various waterhorses and their folklore for no reason#because one of the characters in their original work happens to be an each uisge#and then it turned out it ALSO included a lot of figures from welsh folklore in general#so yknow if you happen to have my incredibly specific hyperfixations you'll love it but even if you don't it's great#I didn't mean to bring up phantom of the opera so much it just happens to be very relevant to a lot of my talking points#I haven't actually seen it in years
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need to exist in your warmth (id in alt)
#vashwood#vash the stampede#nicholas d wolfwood#trigun#trigun maximum#blood tw#ruporas art#love u when i get to cuddle u and love u when i get to feel ur blood soak into my hands#being this close to one another means the eternal suffering of trying to separate love and mission. love for one and love for humanity#i like to think of pre-vol8 vash as someone who struggles with his feelings for ww bc as equal and as trusted he is -#vash knows his responsibilities and he knows/expects ww wouldn't let him stray from it either. for that he can't take to any romantic incli#and i think itd make him view ww in a stricter non-personal way... If that makes ANY sense.#for ww - take someone who youv gotten close to and ended up liking more than you expected#someone who has a belief and follows it stubbornly - someone who'll get into more fights and trouble more than youv had your entire life#ww thinks of him as a monster but he knows theres a limit he himself can take - i feel like hes considered what might be the limit for vash#for Safety measures. just in case. yknow. whenever he himself might have to load the bullet < him hyping himself up as if he could do it#my point being that the thought of vash being dead crosses his mind more than he'd like. i think its a simultaneous dread drop in his stoma#for failure of the mission - but also an Ok? They can be killed? and also a disastrous gunning of his own heart. considering how much they#both live in their own heads some days are Just the worst ever for them in each others company. but also they lov each other :[ sooo much
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#i love twitter user transcowboy so much he has the most correct house opinions#my posts#< not my content but yknow what i mean#house md#wuddy#hudson#hilson
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you got mail!
#hermitcraft#hermitblr#pearlescentmoon#ethoslab#tangotek#art archive#id in alt text#anyways. i like the funny minecraft guys#their designs are also sooooo much more simple lord it’s so nice to be out of gacha hell yknow
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i love you always forever
#see i told ya i had some old kriselle on hold#deltarune#kris dreemurr#noelle holiday#kriselle#art tag#these r a bit messy bc iirc i was experimenting with doodling without using a sketch layer#i like how they look though#yknow its funny i just realized i dont actually have that much stuff tagged as kriselle#theres just a kriselle undercurrent present whenever i draw them in the vicinity of each other
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"All those empty rooms
We could have been anywhere, anywhere else
Instead, I made a bed with apathy
My heart knew the weight
Ten years worth of dust and neglect
We made our peace with weariness and let it be..."
(Song: The Moon will Sing by the Crane Wives)
#scum villains self saving system#svsss#shen jiu#yue qingyuan#qijiu#hello children daddys come back from getting milk#I bring you dinner!! yaha!!!!#ai it took so long to make this because I kept not working on it aha... procrastinating yknow#but it's finished wow!!! please praise me woof woof#anyways this audio has completely run its course qwq so idk if this will annoy some people but#you cannot deny that a great deal of this song is quite in tune with them....#ahh... I love them so much... I still have another animation planned for them hahahaha!!!#BUT next up I am working on a tianlang jun animation so yall must wait for more qijiu snackies a little longer hehe#I'm excited to make tianyan!! xilang? sutian? xitian...? I still don't know what their name is.... tianxi? tiansu?#hehehehehehe Anyways thanks for sticking around!! hope this one will please yall!!!
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Nico referring to his mom as "Mama" implies he most likely at least used to refer to Hades as "Papa" and i 100% headcanon he still does but mostly in the manner of him having the entire Underworld wrapped around his finger for being the baby of the family
#pjo#riordanverse#nico di angelo#headcanon#my art#nico flexing youngest child privilages by pulling out the most pitiful expression he can manage#anyways i find it fun to explore character word choices#cause yknow no two characters are going to select their words the same way#or even necessarily think about it to the same degree#i like to think Nico thinks about his word choice a lot#so of course every time he uses ''papa'' he fully knows he's pulling the Baby Of The Family card#Hades definitely knows this too but falls for it every time anyways#cause Nico hasnt called him ''papa'' regularly since getting his memory wiped - just detached ''father'' or at best ''dad''#so it just reminds Hades of How Much He Just Wants His Children To Be Happy Like The Old Days#and how much poor Nico has been through and he's just the baby of the family and-#cue Nico smugly staring at the camera cause he knows how much power he holds#also i say Nico is Hades' only son cause mythologically even when Zagreus *is* Hades' son (rarely) he's. dead.#a major part of Zagreus' mythology is that he died#and im p sure every other deity said to be Hades' children are all goddesses and also are like 50% of the time not his#theres also only like 3 of them. and as far as we know in riordanverse canon one of them is implied to not be his daughter#so Nico is Hades' only son and also youngest in the family (cause Hazel is older by a month chronologically or 1 year biologically)#(and everybody else is a deity if children of hades at all)
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I don't have a caption for this one tbh
#bitts posts#my pics#nsft#ns/fw#i took SUCH a good pic last night but its just full closeup on both holes so i suuuuuper cant post it#but man. if i could#anyway you get a lil dimmly lit tease instead#been thinking a lot about the kind of dominance thats both gentle and overwhelmingly present#dominance like a kiss on the forehead and a hand over your nose and mouth yknow??#i miss having someones full attention on me in that heady possessive way that says theyd do anything for me just as much as theyll break me#do you guys know what im talking about
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kids these days just don't think 27 is as shockingly young as they used to...
bonus:
#anyway updating the pokemon center was a fun event. normal about cyrus (lying)#pokemon#pokemas#pokemon masters ex#galactic boss cyrus#sophocles#penny#rotom#art tag#btw this got me thinking about the confusing pokemon timeline and how much older than them he'd ACTUALLY be#yknow. if this weren't a cyrus pulled Directly from platinum.#he'd probably be like 40 by sv right... such a dinosaur (<- joke)
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[dbhc flavored] Hermit a Day May: Day 14 — Doc!
Featuring both a current-day s10 doc and a verrry early s8 post-deviant doc! :]
#TELL ME WHY THE POSE CAME OUT SO FRUITY 😭 it wasn’t intentional but yknow what. he’s kinda. so it’s fine#the horns are removable! :]#dbhc#dbhc doc#docm77#hermitaday#hermitadaymay#hermitcraft#hermitcraft au#dbhc ren#rendog#dbhc art#art escapades#I’m kind of obsessed with him and it shows sorry#drawing early ren and doc makes me think… ren had so many cybernetics in s8#maybe doc helps build him some android-tech prosthetics :3#dunno dunno… idk I love them so much#ren is the reason doc has any human mannerisms at all tbh#otherwise mans would be so annoyingly robotic about everything#being an android based entirely around searching for loopholes and out of the box solutions in code will do that to you. logic brained doof#/aff#ANYWAY I RUN#I gotta post other dbhc stuff tonight that’s important so I gotta go finish it
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Some Solly faces for fun
#drawing him without the helmet is kinda like tryin to draw micky mouse without ears#but i wanted to try and bring as much of his energy to these as possible#cause i feel like people usually draw him looking stoic (which is fine btw)#but i just didnt want him to seem like a totally different person helmet on/helmet off yknow? :0#it was a fun challenge either way#cute solly :3#tf2#i drew this
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to be seen for your humanity
#Oh yeah we are getting all the way artsy and pretentious up in here and its only going to get more artsy and pretentious#artistic nudity#dirkjake#jakedirk#homestuck#jake english#dirk strider#my art#zan0tix#In other words guess who rewatched belladonna of sadness LOL#Main idea here is yknow. theyre the only two who see eachother on that deep human level how no other could. Eachothers anchors of the self.#You guys dont want to admit dirk needs jake as much as jake needs dirk.. dirk cant be himself without him.#I LOVE CODEPENDENT ACCEPTANCE OF THE SELF YAOI YAAY guys. dirkjake can Fix eachother actually ill show you how.
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Forcemasc except instead of pushing you to go to the gym, it's pushing you to do your physio. it's pushing you to take up space and take your wellbeing seriously - use your mobility aids, take your meds, stop letting other people push you too hard. stop pushing yourself too hard. Understand that you deserve to be here, deserve to be who you are, deserve to be respected. That your masculinity isn't defined by your physical strength or your athleticism or how you look or what other people think of you - it's just part of who and how you are, and now you have someone who sees that. That sees You, and won't let you back down from who you really are.
#goddyke#forcemasc#force masc#autoandrophilia#is this too niche? maybe.#idc#this is written by a disabled trans man btw but its also 1am so yknow.#take this w a grain or three of salt.#trying to be masculine when you don't fit conventional masculinity and are Physically Incapable of it is weird.#but ultimately. who cares. i am as much of a man as i want to be.
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agrument
#an art#sdr2#super danganronpa 2#fuyuhiko kuzuryu#hajime hinata#I haven't felt like drawing very much at all lately even though I do. But I don't. Yknow#Mostly obsessed w OC lightly obsessed w diff media mostly just. Uninspired I guess#But this i got
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Channeling my stress into doing things I’ve been meaning to do so here’s Mouthwashing Actor AU bc I’m obsessed with those
Curly’s first introduction to his prop counterpart
At least Daisuke’s having fun
#I babygirlified curly a little too much but yknow what it’s okay#also yes I took inspo from the many BNHA actor AUs#those were EVERYHING to me when I was younger#mouthwashing#mouthwashing curly#curly mouthwashing#mouthwashing daisuke#daisuke mouthwashing#mouthwashing fanart#actor au#mouthwashing actor au#fanart#procreate#au#alternate universe#artists on tumblr#my art
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I thought that you’d do no harm
And the rough sketch cuz I thought the difference between it and the final drawing was coool
#dream smp#dream smp fanart#c!tommy#cw blood#rozoodles#happy 16th :]#idk how well i portrayed this idea..#an open wound… the heart of L’manburg.. yknow?#also I LOVE this song so much plz give it a listen
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