#nonaesthetic spectrum

[sapphuric-acid]

Wait folks

What exactly is the difference between aesthetic and sexual attraction?

Like yeah most of the time people are sexually attracted to people they find aesthetically attractive

And people can be aesthetically attracted to someone without being sexually attracted to them

But like. Most of the time sexual attraction is directly equated to looking hot. What if you're sexually attracted to someone you don't find aesthetically attractive?

[dhddmods]

Analterous & aqueerplatonic questions (Edit: answered in comments.)

Hello! This is a genuine question, and not meant to be offensive in any way. Most of our system are on the a-spectrum in some way, and we are a bit confused on two terms.

We understand most anattractional terms (ansthetic/nonaesthetic, aplatonic, afamilial, asensual, etc), and easily see how they are classified as queer, however we are very lost on analterous and aqueerplatonic, and where their placement is on the queer-conformant spectrum.

Most people do not experience alterous and queerplatonic attraction. Those two forms of attraction are already, on their own, classified as queer and uncommon. So wouldnt the terms analterous & aqueerplatonic be conformant terms, since thats how most people are expected to be in the first place?

Greyalterous and greyqueerplatonic, we understand as being queer, because it still describes a person experiencing queer attraction, and experiencing attraction and relationships in a way that amatonormativity does not approve of.

Ansthetic, aplatonic, afamilial, and asensual we understand being queer, because it describes a person lacking attraction that amatonormativity reinforces.

But analterous & aqueerplatonic are conforming to amatonormativity, aren't they?

(Edit: We have received the answer.)

[littllast]

- nonalterous flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: nonalterous; nonalt-spectrum; history of nonalterous; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

- nonaesthetic flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: nonaesthetic; nonaesthet-spectrum; history of nonaesthetic; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

so... ast decided to make flags for the aroaces and more. the colors were chosen simply by association, the flags are completely inclusive, when using it is desirable, but not required, to mark astro (me) as the author

- asexual flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: asexuality; ace-spectrum; history of asexuality; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

- aromantic flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: aromantism; aro-spectrum; history of aromantism; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

- aroace flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: asexuality & aromantism; ace-spectrum & aro-spectrum; history of asexuality & aromantism; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

- aplatonic flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: aplatonicity; apl-spectrum; history of aplatonicity; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

- aqueerplatonic flags, blurred and unblurred versions.

- - from top to bottom, strips means: aqueerplatonicity; aqp-spectrum; history of aqueerplatonicity; inclusion; acceptance; freedom of identification.

[atertiary-culture-is]

Atertiary culture is not feeling represented in the aspec community, despite atertiary literally being an aspec label

[entropy-sea-system]

Redesign of the Anaesthetic/Nonaesthetic/A-aesthetic flag

(Again its mainly because I think we deserve atertiaryspec flags that are not just like a attraction color recolor of the ace flag !!)

(As pink in the old flag represents aesthetic attraction)

I chose the color mint to not resemble other commonly used aspec flags too closely !! The color progression is also meant to look distinct from existing aspec flags.

version with more muted colors + more contrast is below ! (This one is the original redesign I made !!)

Reminder that this flag is inclusive of anaesthetic ppl who are not aspec in other ways, and anaesthetic spectrum people who experience some aesthetic attraction and/or favorability!!

(-Rift)

[anattractional-safe-space]

Hello! This is a genuine question, and not meant to be offensive in any way. Most of our system are on the a-spectrum in some way, and we are a bit confused on two terms, and need some clarification for a project we are working on.

We understand most anattractional terms (ansthetic/nonaesthetic, aplatonic, afamilial, asensual, etc), and easily see how they are classified as queer/variant, however we are very lost on analterous and aqueerplatonic, and where their placement is on the queer/variant-conformant spectrum.

Most people do not experience alterous and queerplatonic attraction. Those two forms of attraction are already, on their own, classified as queer and uncommon. So wouldnt the terms analterous & aqueerplatonic be conformant terms, since thats how most people are expected to be in the first place?

Greyalterous and greyqueerplatonic, we understand as being queer, because it still describes a person experiencing queer attraction, and experiencing attraction and relationships in a way that amatonormativity does not approve of.

Ansthetic, aplatonic, afamilial, and asensual we understand being queer, because it describes a person lacking attraction that amatonormativity reinforces.

But analterous & aqueerplatonic are conforming to amatonormativity, aren't they?

Thank you for the ask! No worries about your question. It's perfectly valid!

I feel like my take on these kinds of things is always on whether the individual who uses the label identifies as queer(as long as they don't claim that a philia or something of that sort is queer), regardless of whether their identity is something that is commonly aligned with by non-queer individuals, such as analterous and aqueerplatonic. However, I understand that this does not completely answer your question.

Honestly, it is up to the person. Simply because one part of someone's identity aligns with allo experiences, does not make them any less queer. Also, if allo individuals aren't aware of what queerplatonic and alterous attraction even is, it is highly unlikely that they would identify as someone who does not experience those.

Perhaps this is a bad take, but I feel that because most individuals who identify as queer and align with those 2 identities do not only consider themself those two identities, might be aligned with why the terms are queer. The terms specify more about an individual ans where they lie on the split attraction model(if they use it).

I know this is more of an opinion based answer, but it's the best one I an presently provide. If anyone else wishes to add on it the tags or comments, I will screenshot them and add them on to a rebloged version of this.

I hope that helps! If anyone else has any more questions or experiences to share, my ask box is always open.

(Another thing to note, because of the hacking of the web archive, the original uses of the terms from my references are difficult to find. Once that gets fixed, it can probably better contextualize this situation.)

References/Links :

[bloodmoon-night]

Out of pure boredom, I am here to say I made a subreddit for Anaesthetic being I had nothing truthfully to do.

I had recently found out I was it so I made this server to find others who identify with it as well! So if you are it or interested in it please check it out!

Here is the link!

[saffigon]

reminder that "aspec" does not mean ace / ace spectrum. the aspec is for anyone on the anattractional spectrums, identities that include aromantic, aplatonic, asensual, anaesthetic/nonaesthetic, aqueerplatonic, analterous, afamilial, etc

if you want to mention the ace spectrum specifically, use "acespec" this goes for any other anattractional identity as well - aro = arospec - apl = aplspec etc

aspec is for all of us not just ace specific, please keep that in mind

[mourningmogaicrew]

Aphysical, aemotional, and atertiary recoins

(Original post is here)

Aphysical and aphys-spec

A term for someone who does not experience physical attraction. This person may also be asexual, nonaesthetic, and/or asensual, or they could experience those types of attraction without a physical component.

The aphysical spectrum (aphys-spec) is a broader label that also encompasses those who experience atypical (fluctuating, very little, fluid, demi-/auto-/fray-/etc) physical attraction.

Flag meanings are the same as the original aphysical flag. The aphys-flag meanings are pink-brown for atypical physical attraction, pink-orange for aphys-spec people who still have/want physical relationships, gray for aphysical identity, pink for ace/asen/etc-spec people, and purple for asexual/asensual/etc people.

Aemotional and aemo-spec

A term for someone who does not experience emotional attraction. This person may also be aromantic, nonalterous, and/or a(queer)platonic, or they could experience those types of attraction without an emotional component.

The aemotional spectrum (aemo-spec) is a broader label that also encompasses those who experience atypical (fluctuating, very little, fluid, demi-/auto-/fray-/aego-/lith-/cupio-/etc) emotional attraction.

If you don't like vowels next to each other at the beginning of words you can call this ‘anemotional’ and ‘anem-spec’.

Also, someone (AndleRandle on Fandom) actually already made an aemo-spec flag but I wanted an official/matching one instead. So sorry Andle! Your flag is fine I just wanted to make my own.

Flag meanings are the same as the original aemotional flag. The aemo-flag meanings are dark pink for atypical emotional attraction, pink for aemo-spec people who still have/want emotional relationships, dark gray for aemotional identity, blue for aro/apl/etc-spec people, and dark blue for aromantic/aplatonic/etc people.

Atertiary and ate(r)-spec

A term for someone who does not experience tertiary attraction. This person would also be nonamical, asocial, amental, axenial, adomestic, and a[any other type of tertiary attraction].

The atertiary spectrum (ate[r]-spec) is a broader label that also encompasses those who experience atypical (fluctuating, very little, fluid, demi-/auto-/fray-/aego-/lith-/cupio-/etc) tertiary attraction. The ater-spec can also include people who experience some, but not all, types of tertiary attraction.

However some people don't like the term tertiary attraction because it can imply that types of attraction other than physical/s3xual (3=e) and emotional/romantic are less important. The term eriattraction was created as an alternative and some Fandom users (idk who) suggested that atertiary could therefore also be called noneriattracted (and I suggest that ater-spec could be noneri-spec). Another suggestion to replace tertiary is non-rose. So atertiary could also be called anrose and anro-spec.

Flag meanings are the same as the original atertiary flag. The ater-flag meanings are purple for atypical tertiary attraction, blue for ater-spec people who still have/want tertiary relationships, light gray for atertiary identity, yellow for axen/asoc/etc-spec people, and orange-brown for axenial/asocial/etc people.

Notes:

-Someone who is completely aphysical, aemotional, and atertiary may be considered anattractional (not experiencing any form of attraction at all).

-What counts as physical vs emotional vs tertiary attraction is completely up to the individual! Attraction feels different to everyone and if someone wants to use one if these terms due to being on an a-spectrum that I didn't explicitly list on the definition that's fine. (Ex: an apresential person considering themself aphysical or aemotional instead of atertiary).

[aspec-identities]

Masterpost

▪︎Aphysical/Nonphysical (spectrum)

▪︎Asensual

Aegosensual

Greysensual

Apothisensual

Caedsensual

Demisensual

Caligosensual

▪︎Atertiary (spectrum)

▪︎Analterous/Nonalterous

Demialterous

Caedalterous

Analterousvague

Caligoalterous

Reciproalterous

▪︎A-aesthetic/Nonaesthetic

Anaesthetic spectrum

Demiaesthetic

▪︎Aemotional/Nonemotional (spectrum)

Aemoflux

▪︎Aqueerplatonic

Aqueerplatonic spectrum

Demiqueerplatonic

Caedqueerplatonic

Aegoqueerplatonic

Lithqueerplatonic

▪︎Afamilial

Caedfamiliar

▪︎Aplatonic

Cupioplatonic

Demiplatonic

Greyplatonic

Demicaedplatonic

Caligoplatonic

Aplvague

▪︎Aromantic

Aromantic spectrum

Demiromantic

Non-SAM aromantic

Neu aro

Greyromantic

Alloaro

Nebularomantic

Aegoromantic

Apothiromantic

Arospike

Cupioromantic

Idemromantic

Caligoromantic

Platoniromantic

Arovague

Somewharo

Alicoromantic

Aromid

▪︎Asexual

Asexual spectrum

Demisexual

Cupiosexual

Greysexual

Apothisexual

Aegosexual

Nebulasexual

Non-SAM asexual

Alloace

Aceflux

Caligosexual

Acespike

Acejump

Reciposexual

Lithsexual/Akoisexual

Alicosexual

Acemid

Acevague

▪︎Aroace

Demirose/Demiaroace

Oriented aroace

Electio aroace

Angled aroace

Greyrose/Greyaroace

Amid

Aplaroace

[asexualiti]

asexual identities for questioning people!

source: lgbta.wiki.org

A

A-Spec

Aattraction

Abasexual

Abrosexual

Ace-jump

Aceallo-unsure

Aceflux

Acefog

Acemid

Acespike

Acevague

Acevoid

Acorsexual

Acrisexual

Aegosexual

Aegosexualflux

Aesthetisexual

Agensexual

Agneasian

Agnosexual

Aliquantumsexual

Aliquasexual

Aliussexual

Alloromantic Asexual

Amantesexual

Ametoric

Amicussexual

Amid

Ance-anro-jump

Ance-Jump

Category:Ance-spec identity

Angled Aroace

Animatesexual

Anroance

Ansequencesexual

Ansexual

Apathsexual

Apothi Aroace

Apothisexual

Aprespleasure

Apressexual

ARCflux

ARCsexual

Aremsexual

Aroace

Aroace agender

Aroace Spectrum

Aroace-jump

Category:Aroace-spec identity

Aroaceflux

Aroacespike

Aromid

Arretaroace

Arretasexual

Artsexual

Asexual

Asexual Spectrum

Askepsisexual

Aspectussexual

Athenian

Atomosexual

Autiace

Autorose

Autosexual

Axiosexual

B

Bambi Fluid

Bambi Non-Human

Bellussexual

Booklosexual

Bottoace

Breace

Brickhillsexual

Burst

C

Caedaroace

Caedsexual

Caligosexual

Cartosexual

Causasexual

Centrispec

Certissexual

Chameleosexual

Chromasexual

Chronosasexual

Coeosexual

Cogitarisexual

Communicosexual

Companionate

Creatusexual

Cupiaflux

Cupiosexual

Cupiosexualflux

D

Dalekosexual

Dellosexual

Demiacespike

Demian

Demiance-jump

Demiaroacespike

Demifluxsexual

Demigreysexual

Demireciprosexual

Demisexual

Demisexualspike

Dentroace

Differsexual

Discarnal

Diurnal-Ace

Divisexual

Dreamsexual

Dualrose

Durasexual

Dwinsexual

Dysphorsexual

Dysphosexual

E

Electio Aroace

Eligeresexual

Embrouillesexual

Encephalaroace

Encephalosexual

Encosexual

Enigmasexual

Envigorsexual

Erassexual

Esthesiosexual

Externussexual

F

Factivesexual

Fantasexual

Feusexual

Fictivesexual

Fictosexual

Firasexual

Fluousexual

Fraysexual

Fuoriace

Futuraesexual

G

Gamosexual

Geniace

Glarosexual

Grey Aroace

Greysexual

Greyro-Ace

Greyrose

H

Heasexual

Hedonesexual

I

Iamvanosexual

Iculasexual

Idisexual

Igcecidimus

Imagisexual

Inactsexual

Incognosexual

Inferiace

Inhosexual

Inreasexual

Inritosexual

Introsexual

J

Juxtaromantic

K

Kinaceflux

L

Laimosexual

Lekanisexual

Lingersexual

Lithosexual

Loquisexual

M

Makriasexual

Malnesexual

Merosexual

Mesi Asexual

Mid

Mollsexual

Monasexual

Multi Bambi

Multifictino

Myrsexual

N

Nekosexual

Neuroasexual

Nickilosexual

Nocturnal-ace

Noetisexual

Nominesexual

Non-SAM Ace

Nonaesthetic

Noncopesexual

Nopotasexual

Nullian

Nullumsexual

O

Obsecrosexual

Observosexual

OCsexual

Oligosexual

Omdace

Omniacepomo

Omniasexual

Opiniorsexual

Orchidsexual

Orgasace

Oriented Aroace

P

Painsexual

Parasexual

Parosexual

Pauciace

Pectussexual

(Please let me know if there are any errors!)

[queerness-lover]

Prea-:

Someone who had: a quick attraction to the person, don’t feel attraction to them after not seeing the person, past attraction on someone and/or a quick thought that vanished afterwards.

The terms:

Preaplatonic

Preasthetic

Preasexual

Prearomantic

Flags:

Yellow: Aplatonic spectrum

Pink: Nonaesthetic spectrum

Purple: Asexual spectrum

Green: Aromantic spectrum

Grey: Past

Grey colorish: Past attraction that was feel

Terms and flags made by me

[atertiary-culture-is]

Atertiary culture is being happy that there are other people like you when you interact with or know about other people on the atertiary spectrum!!

[entropy-sea-system]

Redesign of the Atertiary flag

colors are based on colors from some atertiary label flags, some are inverse color of colors representing tertiary attraction. Redesign because as an atertiary person I really don't like how the older atertiary flag is just tertiary attraction flag with a black stripe slapped onto it.

(-Rift)

[arco-pluris]

Monosexism × Zedsexism

Both result from heterosexism, and I’m making this post to explain the words, I didn’t invent, to show they describe things common and accepted by many people inside and outside the variant/LGBTQIAPN+/IMOGA community.

Definitions

Heterosexism: belief in social normality is to be straight (strict perioriented allo-mono-heterosexual).

· Monosexism: belief that people are only attracted to one gender (aphobia, biphobia, phobia, polyphobia, omniphobia…). Within this are:

} Zedsexism / Allosexism / Zedism: belief that all people will be affectively attracted to others, like sex/romance/touch/friendship, and want that. Within this are:

- Aphobia (acephobia / arophobia): discrimination against people of the a- spectrum (aromantic, asexual, asensual, aplatonic, etc.)

- Allonormativity / Zednormativity, umbrella term for:

Sex-normativity: the idea that everyone is sexually attracted / interested in sex;

Amato-normativity: the idea that everyone is romantically attracted or interested in romance. Similar to monogamism (mononormative polyphobia/monogamist polymisia);

Touch-normativity / Sense-normativity: the idea that everyone is corporeally/physically/tactilely attracted or sensually/sensorially interested in touches/sensory (hugs, kisses, hands given, etc);

Socio-normativity (plato-normativity): it is the idea that everyone is platonically/amically/socially attracted and must be interested in friendships; the platonic/social/amical norm merged into the nonromantic nonsexual relationships, including impersonal/professional ones in public life sphere; bigotry experienced by asocials/anamicals/aplatonics and anattractionals;

Look-normativity (lookism/unatractiphobia): the idea that everyone is aesthetically attracted and interested in appearance, or aesthetic discrimination against aesthetic celibacy;

~ [others]

} Homosexism: thought that all people are homosexual until proven otherwise, as in political lesbianism and exorsexist mascunormativity (masculist andrinism, binarist androsexism). Another thought advocated by homonationalists and self-defined homosexists that they should only relate to other <perioriented> homosexuals (gays with gays and lesbians with lesbians). Basically respectability politics glorifying homonormativity.

} Perism/Periorism (periorientism or variphobia): bigotry against varioriented people, the idea that everyone shouldn’t be cross-oriented, being all perioriented, when the romantic and sexual orientations have to be the same (perioriented);

} Orientation/Identity Binarism: limiting the existence of orientations/identities into a duality/binarity, as: homo and hetero; mono and bi; bi, ace and mono (as if there was only man and woman as genders, a dualism). Within this are:

- Pomophobia/Labelism: the thought that people can’t have undefined attractions, as in macrolabel supremacism vs identity skepticism. A monolabel and macrolabel supremacism;

- Strictism/Suptilicism (abrophobia/amplusphobia/orientation suptilism): belief that nobody has fluid nor flux attraction, everyone has to be suptilic, as in ace/asexual elitism (greyphobia/grayphobia/gray-aphobia/gracephobia/graymisia/greymisia/grey-amisia) [usually with a bioessentialist innatism too];

- Bisexism: belief everyone is bisexual, reinforcing/enforcing the binormativity.

- [other] (panphobia/polyphobia/etc)

Note: peri/dycisheterosexism is a substitute for LGBTphobia / MOGAIphobia.

Aspec people aren’t attracted by one gender, except when they are gray-mono (singular attraction in grey area), but this is just adherent, and suptilic a-specs (of black area, omniaces/omniaros) are totally non-mono.

People always assume what kind of gender we might relate to, and when they don’t know and we never show or express something more for someone, people will always want to define us, and when we get out of social normality, which is dycishet² (cis-hetero-dyadic pattern), we have to give explanations, they call us confused, complicated, ill, etc. All this because our orientation is dissident/variant, and when we express what we feel, where the allonormativity is unmasked, we have to prove our sexuality / affectivity.

Almost all of society treat relationships as if everyone must kiss, have sex, romance, etc. as a requirement for existing, and that if there is not all of it, it’s just friendship.

A- Spectrum (a-spectral): inclusion for asexual, aromantic, asensual, aplatonic/asocial, ansthetic/nonaesthetic, analterous and aqueerplatonic people (avoid using aphilia, since a-spec is not synonymous with loveless/unaffective, these people can rather love and have affection).

Dycishet/Pericishet (a strict perioriented heterosexual dyadic/perisex cisgender cissex/ual person): a conformant person, with suptilic heterosexuality, monoallosexual/zedsexual periorientation, suptilian monocom-cisgenderness and perisexuality [read more here].

Dyadicity (perisex/endosex): non-intersex person, of vulval or testicular dyadic corporeality/body [read more].

MOGAI or IMOGA: intersexualities, marginalized orientations and gender alignments. People whose sexuality/romanticity/gender/sex diverge the pericishet/dyallomonocishet pattern (pericisheterodissident).

Note: I’m sorry if I translated something bad, English is my second language. Helpful sources: x x.

[entropy-sea-system]

1. Alloaro(enbian, bi and questioning if also pan, omni, or terraric), Bellusromantic, and Aspectusromantic. I'm also Aplatonic(apothiplatonic specifically) and on the nonaesthetic spectrum

2. bi/pan/omni, briefly demirose initially a while back before I properly understood my attraction and how it works

3. About 10 months

4. About 15, in a research article about fanfiction and sexual/romantic orientations, the author mentioned being aromantic bisexual, which is when I specifically understood being alloaro is possible, may have heard of being aroace before though but that was probably in an article about asexuality

5. SAM, alloaro specifically

6. No

7. To those who matter to me, and anyone I meet online yes, otherwise usually no

8. Many, though I don't engage w fiction much these days, my first aro hc was likely Reyna (riordianverse) though at the time I thought the character was canonically aroace only for the author to say in a tweet she was written to be alloace. I hc quite a few characters as aro though and likely have a few for every media I've engaged with

9. Unsure, probably indifferent, ambivalent, or repulsed

10. No, and no, I'm aqueerplatonic

11. Not in a romantic relationship

12. @urpurplehairedsage @local-aro-cryptid

(If you would like to participate/haven't already)

13. Not particularly

14. Lovebot webtoon(though the rep was confirmed on twitter and not written in so idk if it counts)

15. My ideal friendship is nonexistent. I'm apothiplatonic and averse to friendship. This question could be a bit more inclusive of arospecs who don't want friendships imo.

16. Didn't really participate in it

17. People misunderstanding my identity at times, societal alloarophobia in general, assumptions that all arospecs want friendship or like it

18. Understanding my identity and allowing myself to assert boundaries about what I'm okay with in interpersonal relationships more, being loveless aro

(-Rift)

Arospec Awareness Week Ask

Where are you on the aromantic spectrum?

What are some other labels you have tried out?

How long have you identified as aro-spec?

How old were you when you first heard the term?

Are you sam or non-sam?

Do you wear a white ring?

Are you out?

What are some aro headcanons you have?

Are you romance favorable, indifferent, adverse, or repulsed?

Are you in a qpr? Do you want one?

Are you in a romantic relationship? Do you want one?

Tag at least one aro-spec blogger on tumblr to help grow connections

Do you know any facts about aro history?

What piece of media that you like has a canon aro-spec character?

What’s your ideal friendship?

Did you have a good discount chocolate day? (the day after Valentine’s Day)

What are some issues you have faced from being aro-spec? (if you’re comfortable answering)

What are some positive experiences you have had from being aro-spec?