#new fan theory jk lol

[acourtofquestions]

HC:

When Aelin is pregnant with their first child she tells everyone “if it’s a boy I’m naming him after his dear lost uncle… Vaughan.”

Lysandra & Aedion: keep giving Rowan pleading looks, with increasing fear that she is indeed NOT joking.

Rowan: agreed to it without hesitation. *thanks to knowing it’s a girl from the dream* though this was to no one’s surprise unnoticed reasoning; as even the gods know he would do anything for his mate… including naming their firstborn after someone barely anyone knows.

Lorcan: just hopes it’s true so someone has a silly name to distract from “Lord Lorcan Lochan”

[stormblessed95]

So I just had some thoughts about the minimoni exchange that I really needed to share - their relationship is so cute. There was one thing that I'm confused about and I wanted to know if it was just me lol, and that's the narrative Jimin was telling about how Muse came about. That Pdogg asked him what his thoughts are, and Jimin said he's been feeling a lot of apathy lately (I'm paraphrasing here cause I can't remember the words!).

Then he went straight into talking about how the album is about having a crush, but he said he can't remember the last time he had a crush. And he had to have help from a younger producer to talk about what a crush was like. He didn't really go into why he wrote an album about having a crush when he said he can't remember the last time, just that he's been feeling not much excitement lately. He even explained this albums emotions as "vague." If I could go into depth about it, my interpretation (could be completely wrong) is that it's an explanation of coming to terms with his sexuality, that the expectation that he fall in love with women but no matter how many relationships with women he's had he just can't find the one. Until JK comes along....

Sorry my thoughts are all over the place 😂😂. I just wanted to know if someone also found it confusing or it's just my ADHD brain!

Hello my love! I'm probably going to use your ask to talk about Muse as a whole I think. Hope that's okay ❤️ I'll make other posts for the songs individually if I have more I want to say in depth about specific songs.... Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and theories too! I love them!

My thoughts and feelings about Muse as a whole below the photo 💜 disclaimer that these are just my thoughts and opinions. I am in no way claiming this as fact or truth and unless I'm quoting something, these are all my own words. Everyone is entitled to agree or disagree as they see fit.

This will be a longer post.... So strap in I guess!

SO! To start, Pdogg shared with us that Jimins album/SMGB was in part inspired by the Beatles conceptual album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." He said, and I quote:

"It was inspired by a conceptual album like the Beatles' 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.' And I tried to incorporate the excitement I felt when thinking of Muse into the songs. The flow of emotions is directly reflected in the track order, so it will be more fun if you focus on that."

Intro: Rebirth and Interlude: Showtime is what gives that connection and crossover from FACE, with its sound and chorus use, into the new concept and album I believe. Which Jimin has explicitly stated that Muse is not connected with FACE really at all. But that does give its connection and crossover from those first 2 songs. So you could EASILY listen to them back to back and find it flows smoothly from one sound into another!

Face is clearly about introspection, facing oneself, that vulnerability and overcoming that pain. It's about freeing yourself. Muse seems to be conceptually about finally feeling free enough to pursue that prospect of love and being open to those feelings. It was brought up by Minseong Kim, his performance director, in VMagazine that (I'm paraphrasing) they basically were focusing more on his masculine side and expressions for Who and in Muse. While in Face, Jimin showcased more of his vulnerabilities and his more feminine side and expressions. Specifically seeking out that contrast. Full interview here:

Now I don't know about you ... But it's giving gender. And I love that. It's not something new for Jimin, he leans into that contrast within himself alot. It's really giving gender fluidity. And I think that's on purpose. Jimin doesn't do things by accident. He thinks through everything and Jimin is in charge at the end for his projects. And considering how OFTEN this concept of *both*, of feminine and masculine, comes up in Jimins personal projects/stages, it's clearly something important to him that he wants to be highlighted.

Jimin absolutely had full control over the stories he wanted to tell in each song, even Who, where he didn't have full writing credits. He explained the thoughts, feelings and ideas he was wanting to express. We saw him in the behind scenes of things having direct input on his songs, the MV, and creating his own choreo. The Talent 😍 we were specifically told that Jimin "directly explained to them what he wanted to convey and the direction he wanted to take for this album and each song. This allowed us to put together tracks that are more musically diverse, but still feel right for him." Quote comes from an interview article from the Clash here

Similarly shared in another article, Pdogg said "We made it with Jon Bellion in New York. I remember Jimin personally explaining to him what story he wanted to tell, and he was really embarrassed/shy. I met Jimmy Fallon by chance in the studio next door. We played the song for him for the first time after we finished working on it. In fact After finishing work on the 'FACE' album, we went straight into the production of 'MUSE' and I thought, 'He's working this hard before his military enlistment?' Thanks to Jimin's hard work, you'll be able to see his musical journey, which has grown even more." From here

Okay, now that we got all those interview snippets out of the way from Jimins team.... We can get into more of Jimins words and my own thoughts/theories here too.... 😏🥰 But we like to work theories off facts, so we gotta get our base line!

Jimin finished recording his album in June of 2023.

Jimin stated in MMM that the first 5 songs in his album were basically the emotions related to having a crush and confessing your feelings. That would be:

Intro: Rebirth

Interlude: Showtime

SGMB

Slow Dance

Be Mine

And then the 6th track, Who, he takes it all back and is like no, that's not really true. Where he also lets us know that there really isn't a connection to FACE in the grand scheme of things.

To start with the title too.... Who are the Muses? The Greek Goddesses of artistic inspiration. Jimin has been drawing from Greek Mythology a lot recently, with Apollo and Artemis featuring in his photofolio too. Now while the basics premise of a Muse is and can be very romantic in nature, it isn't always. Jimins album Muse is inherently full of romantic songs, but I also think it's clear from his talk on MMM that this album is not JUST about looking for your run of the mill, romantic relationship and love.... But being in search of your passion, your heart and your desires. It's the expression of yearning. Yearning for love, for life, for his music, his work, his Identity as a person and an artist, to feel excited over something and look forward to something. He specially says to RM during MMM that he isn't sure if he will ever be satisfied with himself as an artist or find a version of himself that he is fully satisfied with (I'm paraphrasing). It's the idea that this search for his Muse (that satisfaction in himself and as an artist) is ongoing and probably will FOREVER be ongoing. Hence why in the end of the Who MV, after all that back and forth with so many people.... He is still alone. That search is still happening. Hence also why this desperate search of who his heart is waiting for is at the end of the album, not opening it up. He still hasn't found her, the Muses. His satisfaction. The yearning that is driving him forward to grow and learn and adapt and dig deeper into his art, is still there.

Jimin has a lot of control over his projects. His albums, songs, and performances. As he should. But it's important for everyone to remember that this album starts and finishes with JIMIN. And what he wants to say and express, this is his art, his emotions and his ideas, regardless of if he has help writing lyrics or not. To bring this back to my last paragraph above.... Passion as an artist is something plenty of people can relate to, but not everyone. Romance on the other hand is something *almost* everyone CAN relate to. And bringing those feelings of yearning and desire for passion and excitement and translating that into feelings of crushes, first love, romantic connect. Brings that full circle and is the outward Expression he chose to help represent the emotions and feelings he was trying to express through this album. I think it's also important to note that while Jimin expressed his desire for excitement and passion and how he is still looking for that.... He made sure to make it clear that he is happy and content with where he is at and who he is currently. These things can coexist!

Who in general could have some takes and theories about sexuality and what not, like anon said, I've definitely seen a variety of theories out there. I do think Jimin has long since come to terms with his sexuality though, but that doesn't mean that the inspiration from that couldn't still be drawn on. I can talk about that more in a post I make specifically only for Who. Soooo many things could be said for Who! Lol and if you've read this far, look forward to my post for Who and thank you for making it through my ramblings!!

[bloopitynoot]

Reading SVSSS: Chapter 9

For those who don't know, I am reading SVSSS for the first time and sharing my thoughts!

If you have not read it, there will be spoilers! Consider this a warning.

Also- if you want to follow along, I am aiming to post updates daily. You can find all the posts in the tag bloopitynoot reads SVSSS. You can also check out the intro post for context on my read.

I feel so weird sitting here in the morning reading this, this has been my night-time routine for 8 chapters!

In all honesty the fic I was reading this morning just wasn't it/my brain kept coming back to my boy Shen Qingqiu, so here I am 8am on a Sunday heading into the Borderlands.

My teas are for evening- so this morning, hazelnut coffee!

ah, okay, intro to this chapter. I have been wondering how the afterlife works in this series. I hope we find out more than "the border of human and demons realms" p167

JK lol this is a physical place and not an afterlife p168

oh gosh, this is quite a mess! (Re: the political upheaval within the Cang Qiong Mountain sect as well as vs others) I kind of want to know what the side quest Shang Qinghua went on in the demon realm. p169

Oh baby Luo Binghe keeping Shen Qingqiu's corpse :( p169

okay but he also took Mo Qingfang with him so maybe they were trying to figure out a way to bring Shen Qngqiu back? p170

I would have loved to be privy to the Tea that Lu Liu was about to spill about his theories of Luo Binghe and Shen Qingqiu ahaha but instead we got a knock on the door interrupting p171

who is this newcomer??? Wait who's the second one?? The anticipation!! pp172-173

wait. "what year is it?" New character or??? p174

I fucking cant. Yes it is Shen Qinqgiu. but also the dramatic flair is too much RE: "faking your death is overdone, I must therefore actually die :)" p174

omg SQQ had a backup body made from the mushrooms! This is so wild. This was definitely Shang Qinghua's side quest for sure. p175

omg I can't stop laughing. What is with MXTX killing the leads and then twinkifying their new bodies. p176

it's been FIVE YEARS?!?!?!?!? p177. Oh damn, bless that he has an abundance of spiritual energy now!

He really told them his name was peerless cucumber- oh my. p178. Can we talk about how they then immediately stated he was a bottom with the Peerless "chrysanthemum, crown, flower.."p178

The hypocrite lol "It is wrong for you to profit from their misfortune" after he literally stole all the clothes on his back and a fancy fan for fun (and cultivating, but let's be real mostly fun). p180

why does everything just come back to SQQ just fantasizing about Luo Binghe's dick? We went from SQQ ranting about demon naming conventions to what he would call Luo Binghe's actual dick LOL p181

HEAVENLY PILLAR-JUN - pls end me XD stooop. p182

Meanwhile we have these demons sweating because they think this man is incredibly powerful and very unstable as SQQ laughs maniacally then slaps himself. p182 I really don't think they are wrong TBH.

oh no! I need to now what Liu Mingyan has been doing in the badlands! p184

but also SQQ assuming that Liu Mingyan is Luo BInghe's wife.

OOOOOO Sha Hualing is back! p185 I like love her as a villain, but hate her as a character. She's in a weird place for me, but I appreciate her LOL

Who the heck is this youth? p186

Jesus christ. the fact that in this moment SQQ hates Sha Hualing's nails- not because there is a kid about to get slice and diced, but because in the novel she uses them to tear up Luo BInghe's back when they fuck. I cannot with this man *face palm* p187

okay we have a name for this young master- Yang Yixuan, and this little baby is Liu Qingge's disciple! p188

learning about how Luo Binghe's cultivation works with his need to basically dual cultivate to level himself out has me officially believing that the system basically allowed SQQ to build the ideal body for Luo Binghe. he definitely has the excess spiritual power LOL p190

This interaction with Sha Hualing and Liu Mingyan tho...I really love Liu Mingyan! Wait- oh no! Not her clawing her face!!! p194

okay she did not get her face clawed

Well, my theory about SQQ building the perfect bod has more merit with the nuns now out of the picture. p197

Holy shit. he actually is strong enough to break through immortal binding cables!! p199

NOW he notices the script change LOL p201 "Shen Qingqiu had certainly never planned to fill in the gap they left behind himself. He had that old feeling of having accidentally picked up the wrong script- it made him vaguely suspicious that the scam of a System was still around"

Dang! he broke the net too! p201

and we have a small appearance by Luo Binghe!!!

Yay! I am so excited i've missed the system, glad it's back. even though it seems kind of broken lol p203

Well "peerless xiangsheng" and "senior peerless" are certainly better than peerless cucumber LOL p205

oh my. Well I mean, he's not entirely wrong is he? Re: Lu Liu's epic tale of the tragic one-sided love between Luo Binghe and Shen Qingqiu. (and this is the Tea I wanted at the beginning of the chapter, I am so happy about it). pp206-207

oh my sweet summer child "Those details aren't the slightest bit reliable, okay? 'The Truth' your sister! Even if I had no girl to fondle for twenty years, no matter how wretched I became, I wouldn't get so desperate that I'd get gay with a guy! Let alone get gay with the male lead!" p212

This Chapter LOL

This was definitely a needed pick up after we had that wretched death. But now I am so curious! I need to know how this turns into their weird but epic love story. When do these two collide??? What happens next???? (do not answer any of these questions LOL no spoilers, but I am very excited to read on).

[jiminsass-istant]

In response to your Who mv analysis:

"Which basically means jimin going through different people is a thing of the past"

I thought it's an "established knowledge" among most Jikookers that Jimin fell for JK since the very beginning days like in 2013 or 2014, so when did Jimin go through different people? And why, since he was already madly in love with JK?

Linking my MV analysis first for those who want to read:

Like I said..my MV analysis was not to validate any ship. You are right though, most jikookers have a timeline:

"Jimin falling first in 2013, JK crushing back on him by 2015 (by that time Jimin was not that bold), then them getting together in 2017 finally."

But isn't that all speculation at the end of the day?

Read on to find why MUSE album is not about Jimin's 'personal life':

Jimin clearly said that the album is about feeling inspired, feeling excited. 'MUSE' is something/someone that inspires and excites you to make art. The album is centered around finding inspiration. Love comes in all forms- love for art/love for a person. 'Who' in a romantic sense is about finding love, but as clearly mentioned in a few articles about the album, MUSE album is the result of Jimin trying to find inspiration. It translates to Jimin doing the type of music he likes, experimenting- from a marching band like song to slow rnb/pop, afrobeats to 2000s pop main track, the range is huge here.

So in the MV, Jimin going through different people doesn't literally mean he was going through them in real life. It's the "story" of him trying to find inspiration and searching for what his heart wants. But in the end he kinda fails (it still doesn't mean that he 'fails' to find inspiration). Not everything has to have a start and end, or absolute explanation. Things are pretty open ended here.

Even if you relate the MV's story to his personal life, just remember what he said-

And your ask is exactly the type of misinterpretation he is talking about, lol. He clearly told RM that he hasn't felt the feeling of 'excitement' of a 'crush' or 'unrequited love' for a long time and in the album it seems like he's describing feelings of finding someone new that would bring out those feelings. Does this mean he is lying to RM? No. This album is him embodying these feelings. Similar to what JK said for Golden : "the lyrics are not autobiographical". He didn't have to clarify that, but he still did.

Which basically means that Jimin is neither single nor is he in any type of 'new love'. Which leaves one option - he is in a long term relationship.

While FACE was personal- about losing people, betrayal, loneliness, depression, and getting back stronger; MUSE is a conceptual album. A concept should be taken at face value, without relating it to life of the artist. Jimin knows about the interpretations that fans made for FACE and he never commented on them, because he openly had said that the lyrics are to be taken for what they are. It's the most he could reveal without being too detailed. But now that he knows his fans, he expects them to make theories about his personal life like we did with FACE. Only this time, like he said, we are most likely to misunderstand.

Thanks for the ask anon, come back again. As for Jikook, they will keep jikooking.

[chevelleneech]

Jikook enlistment

Whenever I’m back in my BTS bag and am thinking about the members being in the military, thus about Jimin and Jungkook having enlisted together, I am reminded of my deep curiosity as to why they chose the buddy system.

And I’m not talking about fandom theory wise, but a genuine why. Which we are not entitled to and do not ever need to know, but it doesn’t stop the wondering, because how and why did they choose that? I would even question if it was something all of maknae line applied for, but Jikook got, but I don’t think that’s how it works.

From how I understand it, applicants have to apply at a certain time and with full paperwork as to why they and their buddy should be allowed to enlist together. Meaning, having multiple applications seems like a sure fire way of being denied, because you’re no longer asking for specific person to not do it alone with, but for anyone to help you, which I imagine goes against the “tough it out” mindset of the military in general. Thus, I land back at having no answer and being curious, lol.

Because on one hand, joint enlistment insinuates JM and JK are the closest, but at the same time I think all of BTS are extremely close. So this line of thinking would imply they value their bond slightly more than they do the ones they have with the others, and chose to go together instead of sticking it out alone like the rest have to. But thinking that feels wrong in some way, because I really don’t think they’d do that. I don’t think they’d choose an option the others don’t get, thus putting their friendship above the ones they have with everyone else.

On the other hand, there is the “taboo” subject of them potentially being in a romantic relationship or situationship, which would arguably make their joint enlistment more sensible. Because if you have to pause your life for a mandatory detour that you know you might struggle through, yet get the chance to do it with the person you have romantic feelings for… I do think most people would. But this thought is so heavily frowned upon, because it’s “invasive” despite being a very realistic theory, so I’m not going to dig further into it. I’m not aiming to start drama.

The last thought, is one people who dislike them often toss out, which is: fan service/forced. I do not think this theory holds any weight, because their company is not with them when they sign their military contracts. They will have had all the time in the world to tell whomever handles that paperwork they do not want to enlist together, and only applied for it because their company forced them to. Which would have likely caused a stir and made headlines, seeing as the military can’t be paid off by a music company, and Korean media would leap at the chance to put Hybe on blast.

So at the end of it all, I’m left with the same curiosity. How and why did Jimin and Jungkook decide to enlist together? Because from the outside it seems like such a serious commitment when you think about how serious the military is. When you think about how it’ll affect one’s mental and emotional health, and how confining it would be to be sort of forcibly connected to another person. Which isn’t new for JM and JK.

Having the same schedule and being made to essentially wake up, work, and sleep alongside each other is what they did during the bulk of their time in BTS. But that fact really only adds fuel to the fire of why it would have made more sense for them to enlist alone. This would have been their first true time having long stretches of space away from the group, yet… they literally said, “No thanks.”

Thus yet again… I’m stuck wondering, lol. Again, it’s not my business and I’m under no impression that it is. But I am genuinely interested in learning what their bond is like, because that’s a lot of love to house for someone (platonic or romantic). They would have only had to spend 18 months apart, yet they sat down and made the decision to do this together, knowing the older members did not have the option and that Tae would be left unable to apply with either of them once they applied.

Do y’all get what I mean? If we strip away all of our bias opinions, Jimin and Jungkook did a serious thing. They chose each other despite the fact that it sets them apart from their closest friends. Despite the fact that it sets them apart from any other idols who have enlisted (as far as I know— because the one group I heard who enlisted together, did so simply back to back, not by way of the buddy system). They put this spotlight on their relationship themselves, and it intrigues me greatly as to why.

One last possibility could be mental health reasons, as they could suffer from things we truly have no idea about, and they need each other more than the others do. But knowing a little about the state of all of their mental health’s based on what they’ve told us, it’s kind of disrespectful to paint JM and JK as severely struggling to the point of adding trauma for the sake of a hypothetical.

Anyway, this was just me rambling about my constant curiosity regarding such an important decision. I know it’s not my business, I know I’m not going to get an answer. I just find it fascinating that they made this choice, knowing how people view them already. Some people will take it as confirmation of deeper feelings, while others take it as confirmation they’ll do anything for media attention. I’m just on the outside of both, because one theory is the most sensible given the context regarding their bonds with other members, but no matter what… there is no definitive answer. Only Jimin and JK have that.

[mrs-monaghan]

So guess the theory is that JK is the one who bought Nine-one for them seeing as they were both living there. I mean if anyone should know its fans who live there, right?

I wonder why it's mostly JK buying the apartments lmao

2018 - JK bought trimage, same complex as hobi.. then Jkk and Hobi often traveled together. Jimin seen around trimage multiple times, Jikook spotted in a convenience store near apt. While Jimin bought an old building like an investment. This was time BTS used to live together most of the times.

(This is a theory but the day JK's apt news got reported, 2018, in media Jimin randomly posted 10.13 on Twitter which many thought as JK buying it for Jimin's bday lol.. who knows)

2020- Members started living on their own, coming separately and in different times, dorm is almost unused. JK rumored to rent an apt at nine-one. Jkk continuesly traveling together no matter day or night, other jkkry which obviously points to them living together happening. Jimin still don't have an official livable place.

2021 - Jimin bought apt at the same nine-one. JK sold his trimage while gifting his yongsan property to his brother. Jk bought a old house which he rented. Members saying their dorm lease is over. Jkk not sharing car much but where does JK live ? No one knows lol.

2022 - Brunnen apt pops out of nowhere in a live were JK doesn't even have a wine glass there. He said multiple times in diff vlives 'after I moved in here' which points to it being him recently moved there. JK doesn't have any ownership of said apt but bh.

2023 - JK building a 5 storied mansion while JM is still at nine-one. According to delulu calculations, it's for them 🤡

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Fast forward 2030, delulu theory- JK buying a property somewhere in US, again it's for them 🤡

Btw it's not just apartments but their outings with friends too 😆😆 London - Jkk spotted with Jimin's freinds - JK carrying his huge ass wallet while JM is waving his free hands and walking in his skinny tight jeans.

New throwback pic friend posted - JM again free hands, wearing skinny af jeans (I.e no wallet anywhere is seen in it) while JK again carrying same huge wallet lmao

What a great summary anon, I love u for this.

I believe we have established Mimi is hella spoilt. Like so spoilt. So so so very spoilt. JK takes his hyung role very seriously. Love that for Jimin

[pavedinashes-if]

Epiphany-Anon here, again. 🤭 I'm glad I made your day! That's only fair, 'cause the realisation made mine. 😂

Well, I definetely have my theories about dear Doctor now, but I'll wait and see. 😏

Also, I wanted to ask if you plan to make a discord server for your readers? I would love to chat with other pia fans! No pressure, though, just asking. :)

And don't end the game now, please?! Or I'll shoot and bury my new aquired kink before it even breathed it's first breath. :'D /jk

yeah, dw there is no chance to miss the Dr's not so secret secret.

And, I might be a cruel author sometimes, but I am not heartless, okay, I will not abandon the game for now ;)

you know what? I have a discord server already, created it this spring xD I also thought it'S a good place for people to exchange without spamming this blog kinda lol.

...but I really really don't want to make it public atm, because I fear the work, the responsibility, the necessary mod work etc.

Maybe at some point, when there's somebody who'd be willing to take care of the server in a way I approve of, I'll make it public. But for now... sigh, I don't want to burden myself with it. Hope you understand. Right now I want to solely focus on the writing of the demos and some fun asks on here. For now... :))

[mimikoolover]

The "Feeling free" convo was my favourite part of the trailer. Honestly so far it looks like the show is exactly what I expected. Them bringing cameras, and som staff ofc, on semi spontaneous trips where they could just enjoy fun activities and each other's company before enlistment. A little escape in between their busy schedules. And they look so happy😭 That's the best part. All we could ever ask for is to see them this happy <3 Of course it's not a private trip, because they did choose to share this with us and make it into a show, it's two birds one stone. But anyone calling it just a work trip is so far off. You can tell how much this meant to them personally, and how excited they are about sharing footage with army. I might be going into delulu territory here but... I also kinda think them being so excited to gift this to us is partly because they feel very loved and validated when fans are supportive and excited over seeing them together and appreciating their special bond. I'm sure no matter how they define their relationship is it's nice to see. I don't know how much they see of fans reactions to stuff, especially not now while serving, but in the past too, it honestly seems like they love their jikook loving fans a lot. I hope they see all the love and as little negativity as possible.

also solos and shippers bending over backwards to pit them against each other, claim they're being forced into things, they're not actually close, all that bullshit, would honestly be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. like.... stay pressed stay miserable while they're out here sharing their happy vibes with those who get it like the unbothered kings they are byeee

gonna take your ask as a chance to kinda go into what I didn't end up saying in a long post if you don't mind lol

I agree with everything you said but I wanna take it a step further...it was a 'work' trip in that they knew this was going to be streamed on one of the biggest entertainment streaming platforms owned by one of the biggest companies on earth (disney). but their work is not the same as an office job or a retail job, they are artists and sharing their life, emotions, experiences through their art in multiple mediums is what they do. for example GCF in Tokyo was technically 'work' because jk ended up posting the video on a 'work' platform but clearly they were not doing what anyone considers as work in Japan. I think their trips for are you sure are similar in nature, just with the added factor of them knowing that it will go on disney+.

what I think we don't talk about enough is the context around these trips and 2023. jikook were not seeing each other as much as they're used to, that much is for sure. prior to 2023 they not only worked together but spent loads of time together outside of work which was their choice. then chapter 2 begun and jimin was working on his solo album(s) which meant that jikook were not spending the same amount of time together. take romance out of the equation and even then not seeing your best friend you're using to seeing everyday for 10 years must have been hard, especially as they don't exactly have a 'normal' life so I would argue as friends they are closer than usually friends are. we also have to take into account that while working on their solo material, they were working with many people, many new people as well, and jungkook was basically surrounded by people who were not korean and that must have been tough. like if you go spend a day in another country where you have to interact with people in another language for a whole day that's exhaustingggg af. that's why I'm glad they could do their trips between actual work. it must have been a big relief that they can spend time together again and do fun stuff which they wanted to before enlisting anyway.

I think they appreciate their bond being appreciated by us for sure. I have a (semi) delulu theory that when jimin used to post jungkook photos on twitter all the time it was because it bothered him when people would say that they're not close. when jungkook talked about doing something that we will really look forward to which we now know was their travel show, I think he meant it 100%. he only considers fans to be people who enjoy seeing jikook together and who support the content they make together.

2023 to me was very much about bts doing what they themselves want to do more than what the company wants them to do and I think it has to do with them signing new contracts, getting more say in what goes on within the company etc. in the soop friendcation is a good example. from a business point of view, was that a good move? I would argue not. tae filming with his friends who have nothing to do with bts is arguably not the greatest money-generator idea (I assume the wooga squad got paid too). it was clearly something tae wanted to do himself that the company agreed to. and that's what's funny because he could've done it with jk if he wanted (same as taekook could've enlisted together if they wanted to) and the company would've been all over that idea because of $$$ in their eyes. I always said it makes no sense that the company doesn't capitalise on jikook's chemistry and how they can work together so well and they love to do it as well. I still don't know why they didn't but it's probably to do with the aversion towards subunits within bts that comes from somewhere ??? but in 2023, when they were all doing what they wanted, we got jungkook going on lives being more himself than ever before, asking for jimin, reacting to jimin content, mentioning jimin and chatting with him when jimin was in chat, all of that, and then we got jikook travelling to 3 different places to film basically their holidays together. and yes taekook hung out too but that's not a big shock to anyone honestly. I think the private discussion is funny because it's so naive of people to think that jikook never saw each other in 2023. they most likely did but that was in private😂so obviously we don't know about it😭

when certain fandom actors call are you sure a work trip they do it because they want the underlying assumption that work means not genuine to come across and it's funny cause they want to act like because it was being filmed it wasn't something jikook did because they wanted to, when it was. they were having fun ffs not sitting in the same office writing emails all day long. they genuinely wanted to spend time together and they did.

the problem for these people is that the travel show is not a taekook show, let's be really bloody honest here. any shippers, not just taekook, would DIE to have a show like this from their ship, just like how they'd die to have their ship enlist together. jikook do stuff I've not seen any other 'ship' do and that's why people are so mad. as usual they want for their ship what jikook have together.

I'm not saying are you sure is going to be making some kinda statement because I doubt that but just the fact that they wanted to do this together says a lot. btw I'm half expecting for them to start on the 'they wouldn't have done this travel show and let their holidays be filmed if they were dating' agenda just like how they're now saying that couples don't enlist together even though they were wishing for years that taekook will enlist together lol

[bookscandlesnbts]

Going on a rant for a sec, because this is my blog and I can do what I want to….

Maybe someone else can relate. I have always wanted BTS friends irl, and I say I want that. But in reality, I don’t. Arguably, the friend of mine that introduced me to BTS has a very skewed way of seeing them. She brings up crazy theories.

Examples:

1. JK was dating Rose and Tae was dating Jennie so that was the reason for their falling out and needing to talk together in ITS 1???? To steal Shaz’s term, is this a vermin theory? Where does she get this from? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Occam’s Razor people. For those that don’t know, it states that often the simplest answer is correct.

They just weren’t close anymore. Period. They matured. Developed different interests. Nothing to do with girlfriend drama. Please. Even if JK isn’t dating JM (lol humor me for a second) that still makes 0 sense. Jimin wasn’t there to break up a potential brawl, he wanted them to be closer.

2. According to a random friend of my friend, JM was wilding out in Paris in 2019, and this person claimed she saw Jimin sign so many NDAs so that means that he was definitely hooking up with a lot of women.

Um, okay and Jimin took a direct flight from Paris to Seoul to surprise and celebrate JK for his 23rd bday. But sure, before that grand gesture he was hooking up with women at clubs. And who tf is this “friend” how is she seeing these NDA’s?!?!?

So, after giving her a peek through my lens and how I think Jungkook and Jimin have been dating for years and that JK is definitely not straight… I asked this friend of mine the 64,000 dollar question….

Have you seen GCF TOKYO?

To which she responded, wait for it….

No.

I nicely said she needs to watch original content. It’s all there. Not hearsay. Not theories. Not scripted. It’s in original content. She didn’t know about Brian Puspos and the Own It dance cover either. I broke that news to her too about how “sus” it is.

I beg fans of BTS that I meet irl

WATCH. ORIGINAL. CONTENT.

That’s the end of my rant. Just wanted to get this off my chest. Feel free to chat with me in the comments if you have thoughts or similar situations you have encountered with irl “ARMYs”

Jikook are plain as day and so obvious and yes it has been going on for a long time if you watch original content.

[pinovapie]

Shattered Hope Tierlists

Okay, first of all, why is there barely any Danganronpa F: Shattered Hope fan content???? /jk

Secondly, as you may have guessed, welcome to my new obsession lol, it's weird, i first watched it years ago and i didn't really click with any characters that much,,, i know i liked POCKET (did not mean to type that in all caps but i'll leave it cos it's funny-) because of the VA's insane enthusiasm but i don't really remember anything else except the first victim. Anyways, rewatched recently and i'm instantly super invested!! May even rewatch episodes 7-10 and make a theory post!! Anyways tierlists!

Fav Characters

Rock is my favourite (i can't wait to be crushed by his inevitable death! Yippee!! /jk)

(for clarification i don't dislike any characters so far!)

WARNING: Spoilers for up to episode 10/first victim + investigation of shattered hope!!

These are my predictions!! The only things i feel strongly about are Enigma not making it to the end and Rock killing someone (either an unwilling/self defence kill or he snaps lol)

Listen, i know people think Rissi is a lil sus but i'm on the Rissi taking over as protag when Enigma perishes theory!!

For masterminds, i don't actually think the mastermind is one of the participants, i think it's more likely that the main mastermind is safely outside the game and they have traitor inside the game (willingly or unwillingly is yet to be seen.) So here's my suspicious list of potential traitors!

I know, i know, Rox could be an unwilling traitor but i believe that she's a red herring. Potentially, they ALL heard about Monokuma in some way but only Rox kept her memories of it. That way Monokuma showing up would immediately draw attention to her and make her suspicious. Therefore, she gets her own category !

As for Enigma and Anon, they're suspicious because of them lacking their talents completely but otherwise have no obvious connections. Corza is obviously the most obvious choice for unwilling traitor although he seems genuine in not knowing what Rules plan is or why he's doing it.

Rock's a weird one, i don't want to think he's secretly evil or something but he's been acting extremely suspiciously during the investigation. If his testimony about being the only one in the room when the BDA played is true (and based on Cross not thinking he's the culprit + Cross and Anon being able to call him out for lying, i do think it's true) that asks more questions. He could be a good pick for an unwilling traitor in my opinion. Maybe the MM told him to retrieve something from the scene because it pointed to them? Who knows.

Scarlet could be a hiding in plain sight threat. She seems nice and genuinely apologetic for her actions however.

Cross is another weird one. It could go either way honestly, he could be innocent, a willing traitor, an unwilling traitor or even the first killer based on his actions so far. Him constantly targeting Rox and Corza is seemingly reasonable on the surface but, if we assume the theory that they have memories of the hosts specifically to make them suspicious, it could very well be him trying to instigate a murder. He's seeming to be the 'Byakuya Togami' character but i doubt they'd do the same arc with such an obvious parallel. This is partially my reason for putting him here.

For the rest of the characters, even though we know plenty of info about them, there's not enough to fully come up with proper theories so they're sorted based of of vibes. I'd like to give honorary suspicious points to Twin and Moriteru for their talent and their personality respectively.

The idea of the ultimate voice actor being the mastermind/traitor is entertaining and definitely a fun idea. However, i think at this moment in time, he hasn't done anything remotely suspicious (honestly, he's kinda like Whit Young from despair time, suspicious for just existing and vibing rip) so he's not suspicious to me.

Moriteru, like Cross seems to be vaguely similar to Kokichi. Similarly to Cross, i don't think she'll have the same arc. I don't think we've seen enough of her for me to fully suspect her and i feel there's multiple paths she could take as a character. Including a traitor who's goal is to cause disruption. Alternatively, i could see her and Yaxi being involved in a murder in some way due to their obvious dislike of each other. Maybe the power of friendship wins her over and she's a survivor, who knows?

Anyways, thanks for listening to me ramble about my new obsession :D!!

[ghostforwhat]

Hi so I saw your tags on the post and was wondering if you might wish to share your thoughts on Will Graham and biting? I only recently watched the show for the first time so I’m like new to meta and theories and it’s really cool hearing other fan’s interpretations of the show. Hope you have an awesome day :)

Hi!! This is such a cute way to ask but what if i said i was being down bad hmm? What then? Lol jk unless Okayy I didn’t type all them out (like I’m prone to 🙄) because the thoughts are not quite as organized as I’d like before delving in but I’ll give it a shot for you :)

So there’s some posts (I’ll try to come back & link) that point out biting Cordell could be considered a final transition for Will (even though he rejects Hannibal, we never see him hesitate with himself or anyone besides Hannibal after Dolce) and I do agree that there was definitely a last wall breached there. I also think he exhibited clear signs of disgust with himself while doing it. Like he bites down and takes a chunk and then he chews before he can stop himself and spit out. He wants it and hates that he does. I see a lot of interpretation of Will looking to Hannibal for pride and while it’s there and he sees it and it eases him, that initial glance is more akin to getting caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar. Hannibal wouldn’t know that, didn’t hear Will talk about the biting, and wont hear him repeat it later and while it’s likely he is also aware of the pathology behind biting, he’s definitely not thinking about it in that moment when he smiles bright and proud. We see Will accept it with a twitch of his lips that again is a movement aborted. He’s heavily wounded and inhibitions of any kind at that point are gone or fading fast, it’s a fighting instinct in the same way Bedelia’s instinct to crush injured birds instead of nuture them is, for the hell of it, out of curiosity. Whimsy. He doesn’t exhibit defensive behavior like this again, not with the Dragon, or previously with Tier. It’s a unique set of circumstances where he can do whatever. Like. He knows realistically they might not make it out of this and it’s telling that this is the course of action he chooses, something that will please Hannibal and to a not so little extent, also himself. The look afterwards is so many things packed in to one and I’d argue one of connection, one of a goal shared and realized and thats why Hannibal is quick to say “You delight in wickedness and then berate yourself for the delight.” Like, this applies to almost every aspect of Will but it hits harder at that moment because we just saw that yeah, he does delight in it, he felt a whim to bite and he embraced it. The denial is expected, there wasn’t supposed to be consequences to his actions, but he did bite and chew.

[joyswonderland1108]

Tiktok Army at it again

No because that breed (no disrespect to other Amazing Army on Tiktok this is not targeting you) can be absolutely horrifying and disgusting.

Now besides the whole disaster of Y/N povs where they sometimes paint the boys as sexual assaulters, insist on the “girlfriend” povs assuming their sexuality being straight yet jump at your neck for saying that maybe they are queer because “DON’T ASSUME THEIR SEXUALITY” um.. Okay Margaret

Now after the Naver article that came out about how Han Sohee is part of the MV “Female lead, main character, starring in the MV” not sure which one is more accurate because in a way the 3 of them can mean 3 different things but whatever, they’ve been absolutely disgusting about this whole thing.

People pointed out how Sohee is so JK coded, she gives off the same vibe as him and naturally a lot of Army commented stuff like “She’s basically the female version of him” or “They can easily pass as siblings” to which motherfuckers would comment “Couple” “You just don’t want to say couple because it shatters your fantasy” bullshit like that. No like

I don’t want to put any links because quite honestly i don’t want to give these people more engagement than what they already have for shitty ass theories. When i told you that JK has a new dating rumor every time a woman breathes next to him i wasn’t even joking, how the fuck does shooting an MV with someone, be it clean or spicy, heck even shooting a sex scene means two people are a couple? Should i start shipping everyone in MVs, shows and movies now? 

Don’t get me wrong Sohee is my gay crush 

But in a way if motherfuckers can’t accept the possibility of JK being anything other than straight (Believe me he’s not) then at fucking least they can see it from Sohee’s side, she has a whole fandom too and i can tell you that her fans do say that she’s 🌈✨ What are they going to say next? That Troye Sivan is straight too? 💀

Earlier again i came across this Tiktok captioned “So.. Jungkook + Hot actress Han Sohee + Explicit version + Cardi B music video Directors.. Does this mean...?” and i can already tell you that the comments were not it. Some hoping for a “fandom cleanse” because to them if JK gets intimate with a woman in an MV that’s already the end of the world because in the back of their pea sized brains they also believe that him doing any sort of intimacy heck even just holding hands with a woman (because God forbid the thought of him holding a man’s hand crosses their mind) is enough to mean he’s taken.

And i’ll give that to you if you think my boy is straight you do you but here’s the thing, there’s no point in hoping for a fandom cleanse because of an MV because after all that there’s still a reality he lives in, is he (as a straight man lol) taken irl? But of course he is taken according to the 5813 rumors that come out about him every 2 to 3 business days. 

With that being said, can y’all ship me with Sohee too? Like damn allow me to have my moment here cause.. 🥵

Anygays, SEVEN IS COMING BUT ALSO MY YOU AND STILL WITH YOU ARE COMING ON SPOTIFY AS WELL!!!! 

[stormblessed95]

Hey there! I hope you’re having a great start to your weekend! Wanted to get your thoughts on why you think JK has gone completely radio silent ? My personal thoughts are that he is just done right now with the level of toxicity out there over every little move he makes. I feel like he’s in protective of mode of himself, Jimin, and the other members. I can’t even imagine being under that big of a microscope with so many just waiting to pounce the moment he says/does/posts something. He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. It’s got to be crushing not to be able to show his support for the members, especially Jimin, publicly. It makes me so sad. He’s always been so vocal with his actions about his feelings for him 💜💜He’s such a good guy, a kind and caring soul. I know sometimes he appears aloof and spaced out but I don’t think this is one of those times. If he felt he could post without causing distress (because of haters) to Jimin I think he would do it in a heartbeat 💜

Hi! I know you are new. So I'm not going to get into a ton of everything your said. You weren't here, so you won't recongize the pattern. But both JK and Jimin have been the least active members on social media since 2019. When they first started their official Instagrams, JK had a lot of fun playing with the new app, especially using it to connect with ARMYs and keep entertained during all of their times being quarantined. But otherwise he hasn't ever been super active. Jimin was pretty active pre 2019, but since then, has slowed down a lot. You could come up with a million theories as to why, including just, he has gotten older and it's not a priority at this point. JK was super active towards the end of 2022, as he was promoting his different activities and was garnering attention for it (different Collabs, Dreamers, etc). Jimin is now super active as he has been promoting his own stuff and making sure he keeps his name out there as his projects drop. Dior, W Korea, Vibe Collab and his new album coming soon. When it's JKs turn for album promotion, you'll start seeing him pop back up all over SM too. And when Jimins promotions are over, his presence on SM will slow back down too I'd bet. JK even said the last time we saw him on a live stream, that after he finishes up with Dreamers, he doesn't have much of a schedule or projects to focus on. So social media promotions aren't something he is going to worry about. And not being on social media is not the same thing as not showing your best friends support for what they are doing. I'm positive all the members have wished Jimin and Jhope well on their Paris trip and were super excited for them. No matter if a post was posted or not.

In 2017, Yoongi (who has taken to Instagram and loving it lately) was so avoidant of social media and their Twitter account that Jimin once even posted a photo of him saying "he's alive" since ARMY hadn't seen him in so long and Jimin saw lmfao

Basically, being absent from SM is not abnormal. And while we might miss them, it's not something worth theorizing over. It's normal, especially for JK, it's fine. It's something newer fans might not always remember as they showed up during a time where JK was making ARMYs question their sanity over how active he was being. Lol man basically barely posted at all in 2020. There are tweets from 2019 about how much ARMY misses JK but they understand his perceived "break from SM" that they assumed was a break since the man barely posted. Lol he posted a jikook selca once, a gym photo once, in 2021 he posted a monthly Selca and everyone was celebrating getting to see JK more than ever 😂

Basically I don't think he is worried about it either way, and therefore neither am I. I do miss him though! Just like I missed Jimin so much last year too! BTS solo careers and their presence online during them will be a new thing we have to get accustomed to I guess lol

[just-orbiting-you]

i’ll never forget publicity from that movie premiere where jungkook and taehyung are on a red carpet together. when jungkook goes live after coming home that night, he doesn’t EVEN MENTION that he was out with tae. crazy. i can’t help but feel he’s intentional.

Just reading through one of your last posts and this part really stuck out to me. I became a huge fan of BTS maybe a year and half ago, and as someone new to the fanbase, I unfortunately became a huge tkkr (in my defense their edited content was literally everywhere, with little to no pushback, and so it never crossed my mind as a newer fan to question it). But it was that live that I began to question things. I remember jungkook being somewhat down, and a little upset. It seemed like he was alluding to a situation while he was out with Tae, but didn't really elaborate, and I just thought it was weird that no one was mentioning it. It totally contradicted the message that fans were saying about Tae & JK just having this happy "finally free and real" red carpet moment in front of cameras, but I was like what do I know, I'm new here, so I brushed it off. Then Tae came live a few hours later and was talking about getting drunk and passing out and that Jungkook didn't, and so that kind of told me that Jungkook left Tae while he was drinking with his friends and went home to immediately start a live and talk to fans and cook. So it kind of dawned on me that something wasn't right with this whole tkk thing. And then the whole Jennie and Paris thing happened and I saw firsthand how fans were bending over backwards trying to come up with theories why that wasn't Tae with her, and I was like, yeah these people are not living in reality. Not to mention that Jungkook went live after, and genuinely seemed to happy and excited lol. That's when I started looking at things differently, and I started noticing other things that I probably would've dismissed before. Like how Tae would do this weird thing where he would go live just to mention Jungkook and then end it. But Jungkook when he wasnt pushing back on things Tae said, would actively avoid bringing up Tae, but with Jimin he would bring him and only him up randomly or spend hours watching his content, or comment on his lives and when he didn't he would make mention of things that happened in Jimin's live, meaning he made sure to watch them, it was just completely different energy. That live that Tae and Jimin did outside of Jungkook's house while he was live pretty much summed up their differences to me. Tae went live happy for the attention, and Jimin was more concerned about pulling attention away from Jungkook and wanting Tae to end the live because it wasn't right. And that to me said more to me.

thank you so much for sharing!! i appreciate you writing down how you felt, because it is kinda surreal hearing view being voiced by one group of people so loud and so believable, but realizing that they might have a skewed perspective.

That live that Tae and Jimin did outside of Jungkook's house while he was live pretty much summed up their differences to me. Tae went live happy for the attention, and Jimin was more concerned about pulling attention away from Jungkook and wanting Tae to end the live because it wasn't right.

i remember jimin saying in the live, like "leave the kid alone" "turn it off" and i think jimin just has an awareness and a foresight for certain things. why turn on a live right outside jungkook's house, when you can see the apartment in the shot. it wasn't right to do that to jungkook.

i just saw a clip from the live (forgive me i lost it on twitter) before they left for the military where jungkook says "after this live i have no more schedules" and tae and namjoon were like "set up a shoot! shoot something else!" and jimin said "no no you should rest and take care of yourself."

jimin just shows time and time again how much he cares about jungkook, in the way he supports jungkook's solo career, in the way he praises him and his talents, in the way they clearly have become such comforts and supports for each other.

i have never really felt that same bond with t@ekook, and the way you summed up last year in lives and interactions, i feel like the dichotomy is showcased well through their public interactions.

thanks again for sharing!

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

Another thing that gets to me with this issue is, jimin probably had to deal with so many declines and limitations of artistic creativity and here we have jk who was whining on live just last month how he'll work when he wants to and wont pressure himself bla bla and idc if it's a reach but the moment he saw jm's success he was like yeah now i want work too and is being delivered instant opportunities lol. The tragicomedy of his studio news coming up right after jm blatantly gets his streams filtered due to lack of radio play and we have armies and his fans celebrating how an easy hit jk will have cuz of radio play and payola 💀

I don't think it was Jungkook, but it was definitely hybe. This has inside job written all over it. Everyone knows I'm not a conspiracy theory type of person when it comes to people's relationships but with companies? I don't trust anyone. I really believe this was a targeted attack on Jimin and it didn't necessarily come from Billboard. Scooter seems to be acting as Jungkook' manager right now.

I was just thinking of how armys spent all these weeks dragging blackpink for getting photos and meetings with YouTube Spotify CEOs or whatever, but now some are celebrating Jungkook for the exact same thing lmfao. Not to mention JK stans and blinks coming together to collectively hate on Jimin in the most disgusting ways... maybe they do deserve each other.

[dearweirdme]

so this larry situation has started a discussion. i am not a larrie btw but i know rain you used to be one. in my opinion larry is definitely an example of shipping taken too far.

louis's statement kinda scares me "there’s nothing I can say or do to dispel the believers of that conspiracy. they are so intertwined with what they believe to be the truth now that they won’t actually see the truth for what it is." even after this statement, i saw a few larries who still believe that his management is making him do all this. that gave me the shudders.

if louis and harry used to be a thing and this is how they turned out now, i would happily accept tae and jk to be just friends rather than their relationship turning into something disastrous like larry.

i think for me the only way i will continue to believe in taekook (assuming that they cannot come out officially as a couple) is if they both stay single for pretty much the rest of their life. so this is like a pretty long term theory lol but this will be my ultimate proof. because if they cannot get married or openly be together, its not like they can just tell us that, the only way we can spot it is if both of them are single. and ofc this theory only works out if only tae and jk out of all the members are single well into their age. if literally any other member is also single then this theory doesn't work.

anyways what do you think? what is your version of final proof?

Hi anon!

The difficulty of Larry fandom is that after 1d went on hiatus.. there was close to no real interactions to be witnessed between Harry and Louis. Before hiatus, most Larries were still quite certain they were together and they got to actually watch them interact and look at how they reacted to each other. When that disappeared.. the fandom kinda had to go by clues and fill in the gaps. But that leaves so much room to be wrong. That is why I feel fairly certain that they were together during or for parts of 1d, but perhaps not much after hiatus. There’s so much that makes Larry fandom a tough and complicated place. They are dealing with a band that’s no longer active, two solo artists that are quite different, a lot if newer fans who don’t really understand 1d history.. etc. All stuff that makes for a complex situation. Not all Larries are as unhinged (same as how Tkkrs differ from each other), but if you base your opinion on twitter larries 😬.

I think unhinged theories emerge when fans think they have to speak and fight for their favorite artist. We can kinda see it here too, with some fans talking about members hating each other. To me that is unhinged as well. You are absolutely right in saying Larry fandom (as a whole) takes it too far. There’s a lot of unhinged theories going around. I don’t think Louis has to do this because of his management, I think he has a lot of control these days. The idea that he doesn’t is something that stems from their earlier days, when their label and management did seem to have a lot of control.

It is very important to take note of time passing and of situations changing and I feel that is lacking in Larry fandom. A lot of people hold on to what once was without leaving much room for new developments.

The same thing goes for Tkk. I just try to go with what Tae and Jk show us. I think they have continued to show us their closeness so at this moment I have little reason to doubt that they’re together. When that changes (and not to bring down the mood or something, but we do not know how enlistment and being apart will effect them) I will still go with what I see and accept if I feel they have broken up. If at any point one of them announces an engagement or marriage.. I’ll take that to mean they split up or that maybe we were wrong (depending on context).

You always have to do with the information you get. In this situation it’s always possible that at one point something comes to light that changes our perspective. For me Taennie wasn’t that, but for some it was. For me Tae and/or Jk denying Tkk probably will be, others might still carry on.

My ultimate proof of Tae and Jk being together will be when I see both of them come out in 10+ years or so. If they make it so far ofcourse.. otherwise I’ll probably forever wonder 😂. But it’s not that important for me to get ultimate proof of them together. In the end what I want is for them to be happy, whether it’s with each other romantically or platonically.