#narvi. & váli.

[that-guy-in-the-chiton]

“We were supposed to die together, you promised.”

[kratioed]

𝐍𝐀𝐑𝐅𝐈 & 𝐕𝐀𝐋𝐈 , 𝐒𝐎𝐍𝐒 𝐎𝐅 𝐋𝐎𝐊𝐈

It’s clear that Hel will one day appear in future releases, as hinted in both GOW(2018) and GOWR, but anyone who is a myth enthusiast knows that Loki had other children besides his monstrous offspring in Norse Mythology because interestingly enough, GOW’s wiki community decided to include "Narfi & Váli" despite no evidence of their existence whatsoever throughout the Norse era.

Of course, it’s also a fandom site; while they can be a reliable source, said sources on their encyclopedia are sometimes inaccurate. Knowing the impossibility of their existence, I also thought about how they can coexist throughout GOW.

EDIT UPDATE 2/1/2024: Recently, the GOW's wiki community updated Atreus' "uncertain future" category and the links to Váli's & Narfi's wiki pages no longer existed. Doesn't mean it'll stop me from enjoying my fun. 😎🔥💯

EDIT UPDATE 7/22/2024: Nevermind, they're mentioned on Angrboða's wiki page for some reason…Váli & Narfi aren't the same as Fenrir & Jörmungandr ☝️🤓 but okay. ☠

And the more I thought about it, the more apparent it became that they’re essential for the franchise…but it’s more like my personal headcanon rather than my “crack” theory so might as well call this an AU for shits and giggles. I thought it would be fun to share my overly long detailed analysis with those who are fixated on Atreus’ other (im)possible children as much as I am because I need this to get it out of my system since they have been living rent-free in my head for almost a year just now. This blog is now officially a Narfi & Váli stan account and Kratos would have LOVED his grandsons if they ever appeared in GOW, but it's very unlikely that would happen. This analyis is going to be a long one so bear with me!

I think it would be poetic for GOW to end off including Narfi & Váli (alongside Atreus) for the final conclusion of the franchise; and yes, Hel would be an adult in this timeskip, contrary to popular belief that they were children in Norse Mythology. Despite their unfortunate demise, their backgrounds are nothing like their half-siblings’ in the Norse Mythos, making them the most ordinary of all Loki’s children. But you know what? The concept of Narfi & Váli being the epitome of normality of all Loki’s offspring gave me an a idea...I’m not sure if anyone has noticed, but Narfi & Váli exhibit some similarities to Kratos & Deimos.

Before the Olympians (Athena & Ares) pursued one of the brothers due to a doomsday prophecy, Kratos & Deimos believed they were mere mortals during childhood as they still fit the epitome of normality as children, similarly to Narfi & Váli. They’re also gods at birth, but the only difference is that Narfi & Váli most likely knew about their divine nature, whereas Kratos (excluding Deimos) only discovered it later in adulthood (a silly parallel, but I still think it counts).

Another example would be in the parallel dynamics of Váli & Kratos, as they both had experiences where they succumbed to their primal instincts in different circumstances; Váli unwillingly turned into a wolf and killed his brother driven by primal instincts under the Æsir’s (or presumably Odin’s) influence, almost similar to how Kratos was deceived and unaware, killed his first wife and daughter fueled by his primal desire for blood under Ares’ influence. While Váli’s fate remains unknown after Loki's Punishment, we can infer that both Váli & Kratos are the only survivors other than their brother.

While the deaths of Narfi & Deimos are an obvious parallel, they're also linked to Bounds and Punishment in distinct ways; like Váli, Narfi was punished with his entrails used as bounds in retribution against his father, as well as due to his relation with Loki while Deimos, on the other hand, was bound and punished due to his existence as the "Marked Warrior" (same thing goes with Kratos since he too was also bound and punished at one point in Ascension).

On top of that, they were also subjected to violence as children inflicted by Gods. Consequently, it ultimately led the downfall of both Æsir & Olympians, as predicted by their prophecy. The prophecy of the "Marked Warrior" bringing destruction upon Olympus began the moment they abducted Deimos. The sufferings of Kratos' family (including Sparta and Pandora) at the hands of Gods contributes the downfall of Olympus. Their tragedies are the major cause of Kratos' justified vengeance to destroy the entire pantheon, ultimately leading the devastation of the Greek world.

In Norse Mythology (with my limited knowledge); the Æsir's (mostly Odin's) retaliation on Loki's monstrous children, particularly Fenrir, due to prophecies contributes their downfall in Ragnarök, especially with their involvement in Loki's Punishment. However, I believe that the suffering of Narfi & Váli at the hands of Æsir Gods is the primary cause for Loki's justified desire for vengeance. The Æsir's use of Narfi's entrails, his own son, as restraints adds insult to injury, intensifying Loki's anger. Obviously, Loki joined forces with those against Æsir Gods with his army of Hel's people while the events of Ragnarök lead the devastation throughout the lands.

But since this is GOW, I found this YouTube comment (which I've kept for quite some time) that perfectly said my thoughts out loud:

With the absence of Loki's Punishment; not only Kratos saved Narfi & Váli from Æsir's (particularly Odin's) wrath, he also prevented a similar tragedy that would inflict upon his grandsons the same way that Gods once inflicted upon him and Deimos as children, in which, fits the overall theme of subverting prophecies in GOWR.

𝐍𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐒𝐔𝐆𝐆𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍

Santa Monica could have easily had Atreus name his sons "Narfi & Váli" as everyone expected from Norse Mythology. But given Santa Monica's innovative approach to myth characters through creative liberties, using "Narfi & Váli" wouldn't work within the narrative structure of GOW's distinct retelling of Folklore, especially the Prose Edda of all settings.

From what I've heard, there has been a debate about whether "Váli" is a son of Odin or Loki, or both Valis existed as sperate characters. Additionally, in GOWR, there's already a boss character named Vali (The Oath Guard), which I assumed (correct me if I'm wrong) it's a cultural practice for parents to name their child after a Norse figure in Scandinavian countries, but I find it unlikely for Atreus to name one of his children after an Æsir or any God in general. Similarly, Narfi shares a name with another Giant unrelated to Loki whatsoever...but given the wide variety of Gods and other myth characters we've seen from Greek Mythology depicted in GOW, it wouldn't be surprising if other Narfi, and particularly, Váli Odinson were to mentioned or featured in future releases.

If you're not aware or need a reminder, Atreus gets to learn about Deimos during "Animal Instincts" side quest. Whether you choose to bring Atreus or Freya doesn't matter, it doesn't change the fact that Santa Monica had intended for Atreus to know about his uncle, it's still canon either way.

Atreus' identity has roots that go beyond his Norse counterpart (both symbolically and narrative wise along with the origins of his Greek name) and very likely that Santa Monica would take a similar approach with "Hel" in future releases (I've seen people suggest her name could be Faye/Laufey or Calliope, or even Callisto or Angrboða's mother). It's only fair that "Narfi & Váli" should get the same treatment…so imagine how moving it would be if Atreus were to name his sons after Kratos & Deimos.

"Váli" 𝐊𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐎𝐒 𝐈𝐈, named after his grandfather, transformed from a monster into a benevolent God due to his ability to change and open his heart, representing the beacon of hope...and "Narfi" 𝐃𝐄𝐈𝐌𝐎𝐒 𝐈𝐈, named after his great uncle, whom Atreus had known but never met (but wishes they had), honored his uncle by naming his youngest son after him.

EDIT UPDATE 3/7/2024: Just recently discovered in Greek Culture, it's common for children to be named after their grandparents, in which, aligns with my case for "Váli" to be named after his grandfather! While "Narfi" is named after his great-uncle, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) the naming tradition also involves material/paternal relatives, which is fitting within the context of GOW. ^^

There are hearsay, or statements from Cory Barlog, that Kratos couldn't bring himself to name his son after his brother due to past memories…Atreus, on the other hand, seems open to the idea of naming one of his own children after his uncle he never met.

𝐍𝐀𝐑𝐅𝐈 & 𝐍𝐀𝐑𝐈/𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐌𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐍𝐒𝐋𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍

Besides Narfi Lokison and other Narfi, their accounts become somewhat unclear when Narfi's brother is addressed as "Nari." This time, it's Narfi who turns into a wolf and kills Nari. However, some sources later changed Narfi's name to Váli, both in historical texts and modern media...

EDIT UPDATE 7/21/2024: Initially, I thought this version was made based on the notion that Váli was Odin's son rather than Loki's. But after some further investigation, I'm inclined to believe that Váli is a singular character while Narfi & Nari are Loki's sons. It's also possible that "Narfi/Nari" is referred as the same character, as the belief that Váli is Loki's son is a common mistake in today's media. It would have been so easy to overlook the mistranslation and go along with the usual understanding of "Narfi & Váli"…but thinking about it now, this could actually work within the narrative structure as prophecies are ambiguously depicted in GOWR.

How about this: "Váli & Narfi" (or "Narfi & Nari") can shapeshift into wolves. Not only it emphasizes their connection with Atreus/Loki, but as a reflection of Kratos & Deimos through Speki & Svanna.

EDIT UPDATE 7/26/2024: This might be a overreach...but if Kratos' presumption that Speki & Svanna were boys did reflect something, then it could be described as a projection of his experiences as a military general as well as an extension of subconscious affection. For Kratos' case, people form stronger bonds with animals than with human (and Gods) since often times they can be deceitful/malicious, conceited, narrow-minded, backstabbing, or calculatively manipulative through obligations/false promises while animals (wolves) would instead be much more pragmatic about survival and tender care.

Speki & Svanna (+Fenrir) have been usefully vigilant and reliable wolves that aid him and Atreus, and given the history of humans surviving in collaboration with animals, there is precedence for Kratos subconsciously associating the wolves with memories of Spartan warriors he had by his side almost as though they were his own family, where survival relied on the coordination of his armies and the care given to ensuring that his men were left standing after battle.

This can very easily be associated in the mind as symbolic of a dedicated and responsible soldier as a result from a pivotally formative part of his life revolved around the Sparta's military…and out of remorse (for the casualties of people under his care amidst the war he's wrought) and love (for those who've either perished or lived as well as the people who stood by him), it felt plausible that he could've associated this with Speki & Svanna (shout out to my irl friend for cooking this up!).

Regardless, I can also imagine this as a foreshadow of Kratos' doting relationship with his future grandsons!

𝐅𝐈𝐍𝐀𝐋 𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐂𝐋𝐔𝐒𝐈𝐎𝐍

EDIT UPDATE 7/21/2024: As much as I adore the relationship between Kratos and his grandsons, I personally think it would be better if they never met in person (rest assured, Hel is fortunate enough to know their grandfather as a child). As I mentioned before, Narfi & Váli should appear by the end of the franchise, and what better way to conclude Kratos' journey than being remembered as the benevolent God even after his death?

Kratos once quoted, "Death can have me, when it earns me" might foreshadow his potential death for the final installment. Given that Kratos had "died" in previous games and even evaded his predicted "death" in GOWR, I think it would be flitting to conclude his journey if the franchise comes to an end (in which, would have opted Atreus to name one of his sons after their grandfather). But it's just a personal theory of mine, so I digress.

Narfi & Váli serves as character foils for Kratos & Deimos, illustrating their childhood origins from Ghost of Sparta to the narrative's conclusion with Narfi & Váli emerging at the end. With wisdom gained from experiences and mistakes, Atreus, aged with greying hair, gazes at his sons and feels as if his father and uncle are reunited once again…relieving their childhood they never had as children.

If you made it this far, then congratulations! Here's a quick (and old) sketch of my variant of Váli would look like:

EDIT UPDATE 12/19/2024: Tried my best to replicate his facial structure. He's basically Kratos 2.0 with a decent childhood who smiles a lot more than his grandfather ever did in Sparta (he also has his grandfather's eyes and freckles from his father). Narfi, on the other hand, looks a lot more like his father with the iconic mark as a homage. They're basically Yuki & Ame (+Atreus w/Hana) from Wolf Children (I never watch the movie, but it's the vibes I'm get from them)! ^^

[ofvanaheim]

@emeraldxphoenix sent: "Here. You're old enough to try this aren't you?"

Narvi grins at the question but doesn't bother to answer, a hand immediately reaching for the offered drink.

"Dad, how old do you think we are?" Váli asks, laughing - before his expression morphs to a scowl as he realises his twin has beaten him to taking the drink. Would trying to snatch it off him undermine the point that they're old enough...? Probably.

[helreginn]

@ofvanaheim

Message me with “Hey there little one” to interact with my muse as a child.

Hel looked from one brother then the other. A creeping feeling sunk into her chest as the words in lieu of greeting settled in her ears.

"Hi..." She stepped back far enough that when she smiled they could not tell at whom she did so.

[harmbidder]

tag drop 4/5.

[hraunwyf]

GENERAL INFO.

LEGAL NAME: loki laufeyson NICKNAME(S): lady loki, potentially lola kikibelle when @apothekosm is around DATE OF BIRTH: a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away GENDER: female PLACE OF BIRTH: the temple of útgarðr, jötunnheim CURRENTLY LIVING: has a small house in upstate new york, but travels a lot and stays in luxury hotels. SPOKEN LANGUAGES: alltongue covers pretty much all of it EDUCATION: formal asgardian royal education, plus a billion secrets since then. HAIR COLOR: dark, dark brown. EYE COLOR: green, with golden central heterochromia HEIGHT: 5'2"

FAMILY INFO.

SIBLINGS:

thor (adoptive)

balder (adoptive)

PARENTS:

laufey (biological father)

fárbauti (biological mother)

odin (adoptive father)

frigga (adoptive mother)

CHILDREN:

sleipnir

fenrir

jörmungandr

hela

váli

narvi

kill jr (in some timelines)

PETS: n/a

RELATIONSHIP INFO.

SEXUAL ORIENTATION: bisexual STATUS: verse dependent, but background on-and-off with norman osborn should be assumed.

tagged by: @abovedivinity tagging: Steal This Meme!

[victoriousfidelity]

WHERE IS NELLE?

@victoriousfidelity (here)

main blog. sigyn freyjadóttir, inspired by the figure from norse mythology and based within the marvel cinematic universe.

@ofvanaheim

sideblog. affiliated multimuse inspired by the figures from norse mythology, with verses corresponding with the marvel cinematic universe. includes: freyja, iðunn, lofn, brokkr, hnoss, gersemi, sindri, nanna, freyr, gerðr, fjölnir, skaði, váli, and narvi.

@harmbidder

sideblog. angrboða ulfsdóttir, inspired by the figure from norse mythology with verses set within the marvel cinematic universe.

@tempusetveritas

sideblog. verity willis / hunter b-15, an amalgamated character lovingly rescued from the canon of the marvel cinematic universe.

[edelweissbarnes]

Hello there, it's my first time posting here on Tumblr and I want to share how I see the story of Sigyn and Loki. Hope you enjoy!

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PROLOGUE

I remember.

I remember that day very well.

The day my life changed forever.

The day I met him and nothing was quite the same.

I was young, full of dreams, of hopes, so naive and trusting in the world.

A little Vanir goddess at the Allfather's grand court.

I did not know, then, what Love really was. As a young and inexperienced maiden I was intrigued, bewitched by the idea of it. Naively, I wondered if I would ever experience the same passions or tenderness that I had secretly spied in humans, the people of Midgard.

To my innocent eyes they were curious creatures, driven in their actions by lofty and absurd ideals or by the most insidious desires, they were the closest creatures to us gods in appearance but they possessed a short life span, a blink of an eye compared to ours.

Yet watching their stories intertwine before my eyes was a small, innocent pleasure I loved to indulge in.

Little did I know then that that very small, innocent secret would lead me to fall in love with the god of stories...many know him as the god of mischief and lies but for me he was the man who gave meaning to my name, the father of my children, the one for whose love I was willing to sacrifice everything.

My name is Sigyn, goddess of victory, of fidelity, of mourning, of sacrifice and patience, wife of Loki Laufeyjarson, mother of Narvi and Váli, the holder of the bowl, the golden one.

And here is my story.

[kratioed]

GOW: made fanart depictions of Kratos' future granddaughter. Popular headcanon is that Hel looks like Calliope and Atreus named her after his deceased mother or half sister-

me with Atreus' nonexistence sons from Norse Mythology:

[ofvanaheim]

@emeraldxphoenix asked: "Do you think I can fit that entire pomegranate in my mouth?" chaotic sentence starters. | accepting.

Their responses overlap: an emphatic 'yes!' from Narvi, and a more cautious 'maybe?' from Váli.

"Aren't you only supposed to eat the seeds?" Váli continues, his nose scrunching up as he considers the question, but his words only prompt a loud laugh from his twin.

"Who cares?" Narvi turns back to their father, eyes alight with inherited mischief. "It might be easier if you're a snake when you try?"

[magpie-murder]

narvi and váli are not actually twins in norse mythology— it's actually far more likely that váli is an odinson, thor's brother, not related to loki at all. loki has many children in the myths, eg sleipner, narvi (who potentially has a twin named narfi or nari, but this is most likely just an alternative spelling of narvi), hel, fenrir, and jörmunganðr

váli as a lokison was a mistranslation, and in the same text that váli is referred to as loki's son he is referred to as baldr's brother

Things I learned apparently:

(Sorry last post about Loki for today I promise!)

Less important and purely for Lokius fun: Loki in mythology and (kinda) in comics has two twin boys like Mobius’ kids, Narvi and Vali. I thought the boys were different ages but they’re actually played by twins. Also the aforementioned twins are usually depicted as blond, but that’s probably just because Owen Wilson is blonde so young Don probably was too.

MORE IMPORTANT: B-15 is Verity Willis?!?! Apparently, in the end credits you see her Hospital ID or just ID, and it’s Verity motherfucking Willis?! AHHH! My girl B-15 being that person is awesome. And it even says her father’s name being…Roger Willis just like in the comics, oh my god.

[harmbidder]

tag drop 3/5.

[x-x-just-a-little-witchyy-x-x]

Norse Deities

Baldur - God of beauty, innocence, peace, and rebirth. Consort: Nanna.Dead, Killed by Loki, who tricked his blind brother Hodr into killing him with a spear of mistletoe.

Borr - Father of Odinn, Vili and Ve. Consort: Bestla

Bragi - God of poetry, music and the harp. Consort: Idunn

Buri - Ruler of Prehistory, the first god and father of Borr

Dagur - God of the daytime, son of Delling and Nott

Delling - God of the dawn.

Eir - Goddess of healing.

Eostre - Goddess of spring.

Elli - Goddess of old age.

Forseti - God of justice, peace and truth. Son of Baldr and Nanna.

Freyja- Goddess of love, fertility, and battle. Consort: Odur

Freyr- God of fertility. Consort: Gerd

Frigg- Goddess of marriage and motherhood. Consort: Odinn. Can also be pronounced "Frigga".

Fulla– Frigg’s handmaid.

Gefjun- Goddess of fertility and plough.

Hel- Queen of Helheim, the Norse underworld. Daughter of Loki

Heimdallur- One of the Æsir and guardian of Asgard, their realm.

Hermóður-The heroic son of Odin. Tried to rescue Baldur.

Hlín- Goddess of consolation and protection.

Höðr- God of winter. Killed by Vali.

Hœnir- The silent god.

Iðunn- Goddess of youth. Consort: Bragi

Jörð- Goddess of the Earth. Mother of Porr by Odinn

Kvasir- God of inspiration. Killed by Dwarves.

Lofn- Goddess of forbidden loves.

Loki- Trickster and god of mischief . Consort: Sigyn(also called Saeter).

Magni- god of strength. Son of Thor.

Máni- God of Moon.

Mímir- Óðinn´s uncle. Decapitated by Vanir.

Nanna- Goddess of joy and peace, an Asynja,married with Baldr and mother to Forseti. Died because of Baldur's death.

Nerþus- A goddess mentioned by Tacitus . Her name is connected to that of Njordr

Njörður- God of sea, wind, fish, and wealth. Killed in Ragnarok.

Nótt- Goddess of night, daughter of Narvi and mother of Aud, Jord and Dagur by Naglfari, Annar and Delling, respectively.

Óðinn- The "All Father" God of war, associated to wisdom, poetry, and magic (The Ruler of the gods).

Sága- Goddess of wisdom. Possibly another name for Frigg.

Rán- Goddess of the sea. Wife of Ægir.

Sif- Goddess of harvest.Wife of Thor

Sigyn- Goddess of fidelity. Wife of Loki.

Sjöfn- Goddess of love.

Skaði- Goddess of winter; Njörðr's wife.

Snotra- Goddess of prudence.

Sol (Sunna) - Goddess of Sun. Swallowed by Skoll.

Thor- son of Óðinn. God of thunder and battle. Consort: Sif

Thruer- daughter of Thor and Sif.

Týr- God of war. Also the god of the skies.

Ullr- God of ski/winter, hunt, and duel. Son of Sif

Váli- God of revenge.

Vár- Goddess of contract.

Vé- One of the three gods of creation. Brother of Odinn and Vili

Víðarr- God of the forest, revenge and silence.

Vör- Goddess of wisdom.

Yggdrasil- Goddess of life. Tree of life. Connects the 9 worlds.

Lesser figures

Ægir- uler of the sea. Consort: Ran

Andhrímnir- Cook of the gods.

Aurvandil- A minor character in the skaldskaparmal with cognates in other Germanic tales.

[lokeanwelcomingcommittee]

I don’t know if this is the right place to ask, but do you have any resources (or know someone who does) on Loki’s children? I’ve been having dreams about all of them(including Slepnir, Narvi, and Vali) and want to communicate with them more but I don’t know how.

Hey anon. Technically we do focus on their father, but as has been mentioned in some recent previous asks, we are more than happy to help out with what we have. Honestly at this point I should possibly make them their own post, so maybe that's a good 2022 goal, but until then, the below should help out.

I get one bad joke per ask, apologies (sometimes there's more, but those are on me). In any case, below are our tags, which should cover most of our older posts and info on them:

Hel

Fenrir

Jörmungandr

Sleipnir

Narfi (Nari)

Váli

To be clear up front, I'm not saying this should stop you from pursuing the matter further in any regard, but as Mod V I'll give you a heads up that there is some confusion over Váli, because there's a son of Óðinn called Váli. The Váli confusion does have a good sourced summary on Wikipedia if an overview of that's helpful, and I did find this post in our basic informational tags that has links to some more thoughts on offerings and the like for Váli, Narfi, and the other kids.

We do have some overviews on starting a devotional relationship and other resources in those tags (and generally in our FAQ), so I'm going to skip going into great detail on that front in favor of focusing on what you specifically asked about: communication, where our communication and discernment reference post is always a good stop, and should lead you to our communication tag, which has slightly more targeted advice on that front. I believe it may be a little further down in there, but this post has some good advice on dreams specifically-- the "dream interpretation" link doesn't work any more, but that's actually a good segue for me to suggest that while I don't think the concept of archetypes is utterly useless, I'm less convinced we all have the same ones, so a general list is likely to be less helpful than something like keeping track of your dreams, seeing what shows up repeatedly or seems important, and then working with that. I don't know if you have any sort of communicative experience with deities or anything like that, but I will point out this post as a good way of getting your bearings on things like this that I think sometimes can get overlooked-- to use a probably terrible metaphor, sometimes I may need my fixed blade, but more often than not I can get to the heart of the matter with my pocket knife, and that's something I've always got and am extremely comfortable with using. Also, as the kind of tech support disclaimer, checking for outside influences like what you've been reading or watching or something like that is always a good practice (I realize it's less likely than running into some version of their dad, but, again, best practices).

As a last note, while of course if a devotional or other type of relationship with one or a few of them is what ends up working out, by all means you should feel free to do so, but since this kind of appears to be a new thing, it's worth reminding that there's not an expectation or requirement for that, and while I'm not sure from the ask if you have any sort of relationship to/with Loki, I've had similar personal instances where it was more "being introduced to" or asked to learn more about family members, and that's as far as it went. Again, if you feel moved to, by all means, I just know having a bunch of guests show up can be overwhelming in any scenario, but there's no need to feel rushed or locked into anything-- you're looking to communicate or at least somehow know more, and that seems like a reasonable start.

Best of luck, and I hope some of that was helpful to you!

- Mod V

[lilatreus]

how many kids does loki have in the comics? are all of his mythical kids in the comics or no?

Almost all of Loki’s mythical children are within the comics, but they’re not really his children depending on which character as well as who’s writing the story. Canonically Loki has at least six main children we know of and “hundreds more” that we don’t actually know of (from Spider-Man (1999) #504).

TESS BLACK

Tess Black is one of Loki’s children. She’s a mortal who was possessed by Morwen for a short time until Spider-Man and Loki came to rescue her. I honestly like her story because I like that Loki cares for his mortal children and wants them to stay safe. She’s from The Amazing Spider-Man (1999) #503 - #504.

the amazing Spider-Man (1999) #504

HELA

So Hela is tricky from the 2011 run of journey into Mystery we’re told that Hela isn’t actually Loki’s daughter. She’s in fact way older than him and that the myths are incorrect.

journey into mystery (2011) #641

However in Thor’s 2018 run we see Loki calling Hela their daughter and in The Mighty Valkyries (2021) we see Hela consider Jormungand her brother.

thor (2018) #3

And here’s another panel from the same comic where Loki out right says “it’s my children” with a panel featuring both Hela and Fenris.

thor (2018) #2

and here’s the narrator saying saying jormungand is her brother/relative.

the mighty valkyries (2021) #3

Also in Agent of Asgard (2014) #13 Loki straight up calls Hela daughter.

SLEIPNIR

While the wiki says that Sleipnir is Loki’s child. I cannot find any actual comic panel within marvel comics that states him as the son of Loki. For the comics universe he’s just Odin’s horse who makes a few appearances here and there. There is one comic that has a young Odin and sleipnir together where Odin is fighting the horse, so we can all say that he isn’t actually Loki’s son.

mighty thor (2011) #7

NARVI (+váli)

while he’s not actually present in the comics we do get a hint about him via Loki. He’s already dead by this time, but he is one of Loki’s canon children. His brother, however, we can speculate that since Narvi is canon in the comics so is Váli, but there’s no mention of Váli whatsoever so he is up for debate.

free comic book day (avengers) (2018) #1

FENRIS

Because of Thor (2018) we can safely say that Fenris is in fact Loki’s child. But for more proof Loki says in The Mighty Valkyries (2021) #1 that Fenris is in fact his child.

JORMUNGAND

In Agent of Asgard Loki calls Jormungand their son, even going so far to call himself his father and saying he wants to spend time with his kids.

Agent of Asgard #13

There’s also a panel of Freyja calling herself Jormungand’s grandmother in Agent of Asgard #14.

VALI HALFLING

to be completely truthful I don’t know much about him, but with research it is true that he’s one of Loki’s sons. He was also called Agamemnon and was murdered in x-factor (2005) #224. He’s more prominent in Hulk comics which is why he’s never really been on my radar. I literally went and looked up this character and nothing really pops out to me so if you’re a hulk fan or know more about Hulk characters, feel free to correct me on this one.

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Sigyn’s Lineage

A matrilineal mashup of the most informative (while incomplete and inconsistent) marvel and myth sources [ 1 2 3 4 ]

Njörðr (Vanir) & Skaði (Jotunn): parents of twin brother and sister Freyr and Freyja.

Freyr & Gerda (Jotunn): rulers of Alfheim, parents of Frigga Queen of Asgard and younger sister Gullveig Steward of Vanaheim.

Freyja (Vanir): sister of Freyr; aunt to Frigga and Gullveig; mother of Iðunn (wife of Bragi), Nanna (wife of Baldr, mother of Forseti), Sigyn (wife of Loki, mother of Váli & Narvi), Syn, Sjǫfn, Lofn (Frigga’s unwed handmaids)

Hnossa & Snotra: Sigyn’s half-sisters by father Iwaldi.

Frigga and Gullveig are cousins to Sigyn and her sisters.

Thor and Sigyn are first cousins once removed; Loki is her foster first cousin once removed.

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