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MXTX Side Characters Tournament
Su Minshan / Su She from from MDZS
Submission 1: Idk I just kinda like him
Submission 2: Look at him having his own life and grudges and friendships and priorities completely unrelated to the main characters! He was so right to curse Jin Zixun
Tianlang-jun from SVSSS
Submission: Incredible character who does it like him
["Anti-Propaganda" that attacks other characters is NOT allowed. Please only give reasons to vote FOR a character.]
#su she#mdzs#tianlang jun#svsss#mxtx#polls#mxtx side characters round 1#mxtx side characters round 1 side b#queue
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Introducing: The Which MXTX Character Was/Would Be Most Insufferable Online Tournament Bracket
Beginning the evening of August 23rd, 2024 (USA time), I’ll be running a tournament via tumblr polls to determine once and for all which Mo Xiang Tong Xiu web novel character was or would be most insufferable if given access to the internet.
FAQ:
Why this poll theme?
I thought it would be fun to run another big MXTX tournament bracket, since the bugpoll last year was a blast, and this was the funniest theme I could manage to think of.
Why isn't Shen Yuan/Shen Qingqiu in the bracket?
Given what we know about our dear Peerless Cucumber, I fear an SQQ sweep would be a foregone conclusion if I included him. Therefore, after the bracket finds a winner, I'll hold a bonus round and pit the winner against Shen Yuan to determine the true most internet-insufferable character.
What is wrong with you?
Yeah.
My goal is to hold one round per day every day for a week, but I'm contending with a full-time work schedule, so things may get slightly more stretched out than that. I'll also be splitting the first round into Round 1 Part 1 (the left side of the bracket) and Round 1 Part 2 (the right side of the bracket) to avoid spamming people's dashes with 32 separate polls in one day.
If you’d like to either search for or blacklist posts related to this event, all of mine will be tagged with “MXTX insufferapoll.”
The full list of matches is under the readmore here. Happy voting!
Round 1 Part 1:
Wen Chao vs Jin Guangshan
Quan Yizhen vs Mobei-jun
Mu Qingfang vs Ban Yue
Pei Xiu vs Jin Zixun
Xie Lian vs Jiang Yanli
Gongyi Xiao vs Lang Qianqiu
He Xuan vs Xue Yang
Lan Xichen vs Xiao Xingchen
Feng Xin vs Tianlang-jun
Wei Wuxian vs Liu Mingyan
Shi Qingxuan vs Nie Huaisang
Pei Ming vs Shang Qinghua
Jian Lan vs Qi Rong
Lan Wangji vs Song Lan
Nie Mingjue vs Liu Qingge
Mei Nianqing vs Lan Qiren
Round 1 Part 2:
Ling Wen vs Jin Guangyao
Sha Hualing vs Mo Xuanyu
Lang Ying (Present) vs Lan Sizhui
Bai Wuxiang vs Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu
Jiang Cheng vs Ning Yingying
Jin Ling vs Ming Fan
Mu Qing vs Luo "Mianmian" Qingyang
Yu Ziyuan vs Yue Qingyuan
Xuan Ji vs Qiu Haitang
A-Qing vs Yin Yu
Wen Ning vs Zhuzhi-lang
Luo Binghe vs Wang Lingjiao
Wen Qing vs Yushi Huang
Hua Cheng vs Su She
Jin Zixuan vs Shi Wudu
Ouyang Zizhen vs Lan Jingyi
Round 2:
Wen Chao vs Quan Yizhen
Mu Qingfang vs Jin Zixun
Xie Lian vs Lang Qianqiu
Xue Yang vs Xiao Xingchen
Tianlang-jun vs Wei Wuxian
Nie Huaisang vs Shang Qinghua
Qi Rong vs Lan Wangji
Nie Mingjue vs Lan Qiren
Jin Guangyao vs Sha Hualing
Lang Ying (Present) vs Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu
Jiang Cheng vs Jin Ling
Mu Qing vs Yu Ziyuan
Xuan Ji vs a-Qing
Zhuzhi-lang vs Luo Binghe
Wen Qing vs Su She
Shi Wudu vs Lan Jingyi
Round 3:
Wen Chao vs Jin Zixun
Lang Qianqiu vs Xue Yang
Tianlang-jun vs Shang Qinghua
Qi Rong vs Lan Qiren
Sha Hualing vs Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu
Jin Ling vs Mu Qing
Xuan Ji vs Luo Binghe
Su She vs Lan Jingyi
Quarterfinal:
Wen Chao vs Xue Yang
Tianlang-jun vs Qi Rong
Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu vs Jin Ling
Luo Binghe vs Su She
Semifinal:
Wen Chao vs Qi Rong
Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu vs Luo Binghe
Final:
Qi Rong vs Luo Binghe
Bonus:
Qi Rong vs Shen (Yuan) Qingqiu
#forgive me for slapping a whole bunch of tags on this. but the tournament will be more fun if people are aware and voting#so:#mxtx#mdzs#svsss#tgcf#mo dao zu shi#ren zha fanpai zijiu xitong#tian guan ci fu#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the scum villain's self-saving system#heaven official's blessing#mxtx insufferapoll#ID in alt text
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Reading SVSSS: Bonus- Chapter 32
For those who don't know, I am reading SVSSS for the first time and sharing my thoughts!
If you have not read it, there will be spoilers! Consider this a warning.
Also- if you want to follow along, I am aiming to post updates daily. You can find all the posts in the tag bloopitynoot reads SVSSS. You can also check out the intro post for context on my read.
Yes it is 8 am and yes I am eating chicken gnocchi soup for breakfast. I stand that soup is and always will be a breakfast food.
No hot drinks today! This wedding required a feast :'3
I can't believe this is it! The series finale if you will.
I have been waiting 32 chapters for this moment. at last!!!
This man (SQQ) has been sleeping with this other man for what- months(?) years(?) at this point and he is STILL over here totally bewildered at the fact that LBH does not want to marry a woman. p355
This is kind of sweet though. I'm so glad Cang Qiong Mountain sect has embraced these two absolute weirdos. I love that they can visit now! It warms my romantic heart that they can travel for a while and then come "home" for a time. p355
omg these two are so embarrassing. The way in which LBH is asking him to marry him is so awkward. p359
oh no, now I feel like an asshole because LBH was SO NERVOUS the days leading up to him asking. (granted totally fair with how SQQ acts towards him/about their relationship- I too would not know if he wanted to actually marry me or not in this situation). I just want to pinch LBH's cheeks though, why is he so cute. p360
aaaaaah- this is so cute. SQQ being actually happy about him asking instead of trying to gaslight himself and side step his feelings or "reluctantly" agreeing to marry LBH pp360-361
my heaaaaaaaart LBH's confession pp362-363
The fact that LBH had wedding outfits ready. I need to know two things; 1. where/how did he get them and 2. how long has he had them and had this planned. p363
I truly don't know if MXTX has written a tender sex scene. Why does it always have to be a little traumatic? Granted I have only read SVSSS and MDZS BUT both of these series have either uncomfortable (SVSSS) or just have freak4freak energy (MDZS-but I will take this over crying and bleeding) there's never something soft and lubed. I hope that TGCH has something (no spoilers pls) but my bar is so low. (okay but wangxian was fine for the most part- they just were also dry and mutually unhinged). pp366-367
NO LOL the wife-ing of SQQ. p370
Okay okay- the ending was so sweet. The little shy embarrassed SQQ calling Binghe husband and him pretending not to hear. My headcanon is that eventually over time SQQ feels less and less embarrassed, works through his internalized homophobia, and learns to say what he actually feels more often. Even without my hopes and dreams, I still think this ending was such good character growth for SQQ.
Holy shit we did it!
Thank you to everyone who joined me on this reading journey. It has been so fun getting to read the books along with you and talk about the experience.
I am a little bit sad that it is over :'3
I do however, now have a pile of fanfic to start working through and am so stoked to continue this journey via fan works. Thank you, thank you to everyone who sent me fics to read!!
In terms of what is next- I will likely spend some time reading SVSSS fanfic- if I get to a point where like Wangxian, I have hundreds of fics in my collection, I may start recing Bingqiu!
BUT in terms of danmei, I am hoping to read TGCF next and round out my MXTX collection (likely end of December start)!
This has been such an amazing experience that I will continue to live blog future danmei series :)
Thank you thank you again!
#bloopitynoot reads svsss#svsss spoilers#mxtx svsss#svsss#scum villans self saving system#scum villain#mxtx#I cant believe it's over!#this has been so fun#tgcf next#I will be live blogging again
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SVSSS’s women and MXTX’s commentary on sexism
Every time someone starts with ‘MXTX is great but her women…’, I feel conflicted. I think the way she writes women is secretly brilliant, but that was a conclusion I came to after a long hard think about SVSSS (which was the third series I got into). I absolutely went through the 'MXTX is great but her women...' phase.
So thoughts for my fellow travelers on this journey of enlightenment or whatever. I’m focusing on SVSSS here, because otherwise the post would be more than three times as long. I'm also not... idk how to phrase it... 'starting at the basics' since I think there's plenty already out there on MXTX's strong/not strong presence of female characters. (There’s this for advertisement. Then a somewhat more involved post on Su Xiyan which is brilliant btw. defo recommend.) This is more like... side notes, of things I have yet to see discussed. (maybe someone has discussed them and I've yet to find it.)
1. Ning Yingying, Institutionalised Sexism, and Growth
There were also some incredible female cultivators, but on the whole, these girls’ strength and mental fortitude was lacking, and they often required help… they spent their time playing around instead of actually working. Basically they looked quite hopeless.
What I really have to appreciate about SVSSS is that it slaps you around the face with a giant cucumber so you really can't miss it. This was the passage that made me put down the book and think. Why is this here? What is the point? Idk it just stuck out to me.
So there's a lot to say here about SY's stunning narration, what that says about his internalised beliefs, as well as the portrayal of women in certain genres and how frustrating it can be as a reader/viewer (looking at you, shonen), but I wanted to divest for a second to mention implicit sexism (for no other reason than I happen to care).
In SVSSS, there isn’t much explicit sexism aimed at female characters in world. By this, I mean there is no point at which a character in the world of SVSSS says sexist things to a female character, nor are there moments were female characters are specifically barred from doing anything because of their gender. Of course, it could in part be due to SQQ’s blindness to such issues, but there’s also another facet to this – the abundance of implicit sexism.
The Little Palace Mistress was the Old Palace Master’s beloved daughter. Her martial skills were the product of his hands-on teaching… Meanwhile, Ning Yingying was the beloved youngest shimei who was pampered by the entirety of Qing Jing Peak; she very rarely encountered danger and had virtually no real battle experience.
Ning Yingying is never pushed. She’s loved and cared for, but not expected to excel. The thing with implicit/institutionalised anything is that it’s hard to point to any specific case and go ‘that’s sexist’ or whatever. The effect is only clear when taken over a larger group. Returning to the Immortal Alliance Conference, what do our female participants look like? We have LMY doing her thing, ofc. But QWY? QWR? Their immediate reaction to danger is to cling to the nearest strong person and rely on them for protection. It feels like they’ve never learnt to stand for themselves.
MXTX’s later works often get the ‘there aren’t enough female characters in positions of power’ or ‘all the female characters die’ kind of remarks, but I think there’s something deeper to be said about the kind of commentary it's making on society. Anyway, I won't go deeper here, but the subversion of NYY’s stereotypical role (and so arguably the whole point of her character thematically) is that she doesn’t continue to be the loli icon with IQ 40. When NYY is forced to fend for herself and given the space to grow, she does grow. And isn’t that a nice message?
2. LMY, the Daoist Nuns, and Sex Positivity
Because her face was excessively beautiful, capable of stealing souls, she had to hide it behind a veil all year round, rendering her like unto a flower on a high cliff, unattainable and out of reach.
The women of SVSSS are all about subversions of troupes, and the subversion of LMY’s troupe is twofold. At first, she is introduced as the ‘pure’ one, in contrast to SHL’s ‘sexy’ (commentary on the ‘two types of women: frigid and slut’ narrative). Then she’s the ‘not like other girls’. She’s beautiful but doesn’t care for her looks. She doesn’t care for men but they fall at her feet. She’s stoic and competent, the ideal of a ‘strong independent woman’. And then, right at the end, we learn that she writes very kinky gay porn.
I think there's a lot of disappointment around for LMY's potential not being fulfilled, and while I agree SVSSS on the whole wrapped things up very quickly, honestly? I think this is the funniest twist ever.
LMY a fanfic writer, a shipper, a BL enthusiast. The kind of woman whose literature has always been regarded with something between confusion, denial, and disgust: from the rise of shonen ai and Yaoi of the 60s-80s, or slash fiction in 70s, to the popularity of danmei in China. The CP fan, in all its bravery and ugliness. She's not a hero, she doesn't particularly do anything, other than pursue her hobbies. She's neither ‘pure’ nor ‘strong’, but touchingly realistic.
And even better, she’s not alone. There’s the Daoist nuns, who (hilariously) are nuns who in an apparently life-or-death situations suggest dual cultivation??? (Now celibacy was necessary in some Daoist schools but not all, but since Shen Jiu mentions specifically that there’s nothing strictly wrong with him sleeping with prostitutes because they’re not a Daoist sect, it feels like there’s a subversion lurking there.) (idk they have Catholic girl school vibes.)
ngl, I just love LMY. She's very sexy.
3. LPM, QWY, and Breaking Down the Mean Girl
If LMY is ‘not like other girls’ then the LPM is the ‘mean girl’. Also, the ‘girl who tries to break up the MLs’ of a BL. The two troupes are in the same ballpark. Rich, pretty, privileged. Also petty, stupid, and unnecessarily cruel. More generally, the Huan Hua trio - LPM, QWY, QWR all take different elements of the 'unlikable girl'.
I don’t have many deep thoughts about this, other than their abject failure to make a dent on LBH’s devotion to SQQ being really funny (and an excellent post on QWY which breaks down her character and her relationship to og!LBH), but something that snagged with me is the comparison between these extracts.
Why did he act like one of those bitter courtyard complex concubines with too much time on their hands?
This is about Shen Jiu. Ya know, Shen abuses children Jiu.
He very much did not enjoy the sight of a sixty-year-old coot and a young girl in her teens cooing at each other right in front of him.
This is one of two (?) times that svsss mentions a young girl being married to an old coot (the second being SJ's mysterious jiejie). If you didn't know, the situation of women in much of Chinese history is... not great.
The Little Palace Mistress: Bitter, locked-up woman. She herself says that Luo Binghe treats her like a kept pig.
Also, the existence of Wang Lingjiao in MDZS, servant turned lover, who everyone hates (she’s the one stuck to Wen Chao if you’re like me and forgot her name most the time).
There’s condemnation there (none of these characters are portrayed in a sympathetic light) but there’s a hint of pity there too. LPM has lost a father. QWY a sister. And in MDZS, WLJ is plagued by the anxiety of an unfaithful lover who she relies on entirely for her power.
(Someone (irl!) mentioned Beauvoir to me in a (not svsss!) conversation (lol the brain rot is real but not 100% yet) and now I feel like maybe I should go back to the Second Sex for svsss reasons (so maybe the brain rot is real 🤔). Beauvoir writes a lot about 'bad women'.)
Anyway, this is not particularly organised and doesn't really have a point. I might expand some more on something at some point, but that requires me having coherent thoughts, which probably requires me having actual conversations to get a few things straight, so no guarantees. Whatever. Have a great day :)
#svsss#svsss meta#ning yingying#liu mingyan#little palace mistress#qin wanyue#qin wanrong#mxtx meta#the thing I happen to care about is women in STEM#which means my knowledge is super skewed#I have more thoughts about the world building related to this#but it would probably turn into an unrelated rant
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MXTX NIGHTMARE SHIP BRACKET
Time for the tournament!!! We are here to find the worst possible mxtx pairing. The instructions were to have fun and be creative and Boy Did You Do that. Round 1 will start tonight, let's do this! May the worst possible combination of characters win!
Round 1: complete!
Left side
Nie Mingjue x Shen Jiu VS Wang Lingjiao x Sha Hualing Yiling Laozu Wei Wuxian x Bai Wuxiang VS Qi Rong x Xue Yang Wen Chao x Ning Yingying VS Jin Guangshan x Old Palace Master Lan Wangji x Hua Cheng VS Madam Yu x Qi Rong
Right side
Shen Jiu x Jin Guangyao VS Ling Wen x Shang Qinghua Jiang Cheng x Liu Qingge VS Qi Rong x Shen Jiu Feng Xin x Sha Hualing VS Wei Wuxian x Luo Binghe Little Palace Mistress x Yushi Huang VS Jun Wu x Reader
#mxtx#mdzs#tgcf#svsss#nightmare bracket#mj talks#hey look. i know i am several months late. however.#it's happening now so at least there's that!!!#my graphic design skills may be lacking but my heart is in it#and that's what counts in the end right??#i'm gonna edit this to include links to all the posts#let's gooooo!!!!
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why MXTX is my new most favourite author
So recently, I started watching The Untamed and then decided midway through that I want that bl so I tried to switch to the novel and that... was a whole fcking mess where now I have no clue what's canon and what's not cause I ended up finishing it by half watching through The Untamed, half through the manhua and half through the novel...
And then I decided to try Scum Villain (SVSSS) and then Heaven Official's Blessing (TGCF) as well because I enjoyed both MDZS and SVSSS. And 3 books later, I'm now writing a post just to express my love for MXTX's wonderful amazing writing. And just to scream into the void of all the reasons why I love her works.
1. Premises
Starting off, her ideas are just very unique and I absolutely love how hooking each of them are!! The world building, the plotting and the settings are insane in practically all of her novels and I'm just in awe of how consistently she keeps coming up with something fresh and interesting that will grab the interest of everyone who stumbles across it.
2. Genres
As somebody who likes to write myself, I consider comedy as the hardest genre to write. Followed by sexual/erotic scenes. And action too! MXTX somehow manages to do all of them so well and I just feel a lot of admiration for her as a writer for all the fun and the heartbreak that she puts into her stories.
3. Romance
MXTX's romance is just *chef's kiss*. There's no other word for it, it's just mind blowingly good. It never gets to the point of being "cheesy" or "cringey" or too forced. It always sounds natural, feels good and feels deep. There is a pattern to how she writes her main characters but I love it. I love that pattern. It's always the other MC (LBG, LWJ, HC) that falls first and falls deep while we see the story from the point of view of someone who falls without even knowing it (SY, WWX, XL). What that leaves behind is the constant thrum of anticipation, of knowing what their actions mean while the main MC is being dumb and frustrating lol. Her dialogues and scenes between them are always just 😵💫 [Eg. wangxian's first kiss?? hua cheng's 3000 lanterns??] There is so much love through actions and acts of service and it translates so well into what they have. She writes romance that is meant for the centuries.
4. Characters
MXTX's characters are just. so. good??? Like I'm not even talking about the main characters, it's always the side characters. Like she just has a way of writing such rounded fleshed-out characters with their own stories and own behaviours and own reasonings and you can't help but love them. Really, even the antagonists have so much in them that you can't help but feel for them, even if you hate what they have done. I love how her characterization for each of them is so distinct and clear and their conversations are always so so natural and real and I feel so in awe of the situations she builds up around them. Their problems are always something that can never be blamed onto a single person– they are deep and multi-faceted just like real life. The choices made by the characters are always right in their own terms and you can't even hate them for those choices because you understand the reasoning. That is how real life is and MXTX captures it so so well.
5. Side Stories
Also, what's with her side stories being so fcking angsty 😭 Like beefleaf (Shi Qingxuan and He Xuan) and Banyue in TGCF, XXC/SXC/Xue Yang in MDZS, Shen Jiu and Yue Qingyuan in SVSSS??? She does NOT hold back on the side characters and gives them so much depth that you just start caring for each and every one of them. You see them in a thousand different lights from their own monsters to the smiles they have on now. She writes her side characters like they are real people too and I absolutely love that. So much. That automatically made her one of my favourite authors ever.
Anyway, thank you for coming to my long rant for why I love MXTX and her writing so much lmao. I don't think anyone is interested but I had to get it out of my system. She's fcking amazing.
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4,000 Post Round Up!
I'm very behind on tag management on my side blogs, but I'm working to catch up. I did a grab of the tags on this blog around 4k posts, and I used that to fix (a lot of) mistakes, update the tag lists, etc. The blog is at almost 4,250 now, so you can see I'm lagging, but oh well.
For those that are new, I try to do a round up post every thousand new posts, mostly cause I like playing with statistics and going through the tags helps me catch and correct any errors I made when I did my initial queuing/reblogging.
Other things!
1. It took about 5 months to get from 3k works to 4k works, which is...slow...but is partially because my health issues meaning I wasn't looking for as much older stuff. I'm trying to do better now.
2. Last time, this blog at 620 followers; now it has 920 followers. Gosh, the MXTX fandoms are growing so much, so fast!
3. Always feel free to poke at my pinned post, which has a list of character tags, ships, etc. It also lists triggers and such, so you can blacklist with the specific language I use (it's uniform across all my art side blogs). Always feel free to let me know if you need anything specific tagged, and I'll do my best!
4. Lastly, artists should always feel free to DM me your work, or you can @ me - I recommend doing so on my personal blog, @unforth, because Tumblr often doesn't show me pings to the side blogs.
Thanks for your follows, welcome to SVSSS art reblogs, and always remember to reblog art you like and support artists!
-unforth
(and, lastly, after a read more, some tag stats, cause I like stats)
Top Ten Most Commonly Reblogged Characters: Still adding some side characters to the list, but the big ones remain as they are...
shen qingqiu (2,276 works) (no change)
luo binghe (1,896 works) (no change)
shang qinghua (894) (no change)
mobei jun (795 works) (no change)
liu qingge (528 works) (no change)
yue qingyuan (215 works) (no change)
original characters (111 works) (+1 from 3k post)
the system (104 works) (-1 from 3k post)
sha hualing (72 works) (no change)
zhuzhi lang (69 works) (no change)
Top Ten Most Commonly Reblogged Platonic and Romantic Relationships: the rare pairs really blew up this time, I loved to see it.
bingqiu (1,139 works) (no change)
moshang (640 works) (no change)
liushen (251 works) (no change)
qijiu (136 works) (no change)
bingjiu (50 works) (+1 from 3k post)
bingyuan (43 works) (+1 from 3k post)
bingliushen (29 works) (-2 from 3k post)
mingling (23 works) (+1 from 3k post)
liujiu (23 works) (-1 from 3k post)
shen jiu and shen yuan are brothers (15 works) (no change)
Top Ten Most Commonly Reblogged Artists: There are currently 1,008 different artists with at least one work reblogged here; that's up from 820 at the 3k check in (plus 188!). tbh I'm surprised there aren't more first timers, but hey, it's still a lot. :D And, as a reminder, the below is not a popularity list - it's a list of the most prolific artists.
asparklethatisblue (70 works) (+1 from 3k post)
selpuku (60 works) (-1 from 3k post)
thesirencat (58 works) (+8 from 3k post)
vodkassassin (53 works) (no change)
lilyfromthewood (53 works) (no change)
tossawary (45 works) (-3 from 3k post)
blackberreh-art (41 works) (new!)
labrujadelteatro (39 works) (no change)
kukuandkookie (38 works) (no change)
sevenjiu (36 works) (-4 from 3k post)
friendodo (36 works) (new!)
Top Ten Most Commonly Used Other Tags: I use fewer tags on here than on mdzs and tgcfartreblogs, but more than I do on the smaller fandom side blogs. Here's the ones I've used most...
comic (1,012 works) (no change)
laughs (811 works) (no change)
chibi (403 works) (no change)
shen jiu (378 works) (no change)
fantasy au (350 works) (no change)
modern au (314 works) (+1 from 3k post)
lemon (277 works) (-1 from 3k post)
creature luo binghe (206 works) (+1 from 3k post)
mo dao zu shi (202 works) (-1 from 3k post)
blood tw (200 works) (new!)
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ask lightning round 2
my ask box went over 60 again so you know what that means
truly a mixed bag this time of real answers and, uh, fake answers! there are quite a few asks in here that I either 1) don’t have the energy to write an individual post for, or 2) straight-up do not know the answer!
uh.......... is this not......... Lan Wangji’s character arc....... for the entire show........?
honestly, the show did very little discussion of Xue Yang and his cultivation, which I found Very Strange considering that we know for a fact that he isn’t trained in any form of orthodox cultivation but can still go toe-to-toe with Xiao Xingchen -- who, presumably, has been training for his whole life -- for a decent amount of time in episode 10. He’s lowkey even more of a demonic cultivation prodigy than Wei Wuxian? Wei Wuxian had a formal education in cultivation theory at the very least before his resentful energy summer intensive in the Burial Mounds; meanwhile, Xue Yang is just casually out here re-making the Stygian Tiger Seal, and we don’t even know if he’s literate. truly, idk, I’ve found that if I think too hard about the side characters I either get upset because they all deserved better
You’re not alone in this anon! I’ve heard folks say similar things on the YouTube comments for that episode, but I personally don’t have any more information than you do. I think the answer might lie somewhere in the intersection of hope and hallucination, desperation and despair, for Wei Wuxian -- it’s worthwhile noting that the “Wei Ying” we hear in Lan Wangji’s voice is what gets Wei Wuxian to finally lift his head up and start struggling to move again instead of just lying there
oh it is absolutely that ambiguous in the original. the unclear pronoun antecedent you’re running into here in English actually doesn’t exist in Chinese, because again, this is a language where you can chop off the subject and still have the sentence make absolute sense on a grammar level!
bam!
no thoughts head empty just this post
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm... I mean....... whatever reactions you can imagine people having..... they will have.....
We see how people feel about children out of wedlock in-universe (pour one out for all the illegitimate Jin kids), and people are suitably nasty about it, but also you have nice people like Lan Xichen who don’t lay the sins of the father at the feet of the son, so really........ whatever reaction you want people to have in your fic, they can and will have.....
I feel like specifically, in the case of Lan Wangji, the speculation would revolve around who the mother is, why the mother can’t take care of the child, and who the mother must have been in order for Lan Wangji to brave the hailstorm of gossip and slander that would follow this act. I like to imagine that after the initial maelstrom of chaos and ugly rumors, we get a resurgence of romantic young cultivators penning fanfiction about the tragic forbidden romance between Hanguang-jun and A-Yuan’s mystery mother. If there aren’t at least three horribly far-fetched theories about A-Yuan’s mother then you’re doing it wrong
This upsets Lan Sizhui more than he wants to let on until Lan Jingyi grabs Ouyang Zizhen and together they do an over-the-top dramatic reading of some of the more egregious ones until Lan Sizhui has no choice but to laugh and beg them to stop, please, before someone reports them for violating the noise ordinances in Cloud Recesses
bonus points if Lan Wangji walks in on the middle of this
alas, I do not understand references to other MXTX works, but can I offer you this fascinating Wikipedia page?
<3 <3 <3
you are putting words in an order that I, a sex-repulsed asexual person, do not comprehend
because I’m too busy answering asks
All! Valid! Interpretations!
does...? he....?
oh man... not going to get super into it now, but swearing in Chinese is different from swearing in English... there aren’t really exact analogues for expletives from one language to another, so odds are they were picking up on particularly vehement sentiments or emotions in the dialogue
I will say that one time I was taken aback by how vehemently Wei Wuxian was swearing was in episode 28, right after the staged fight between Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng -- Wei Wuxian swears so vehemently that it doesn’t even appear in the subs, Chinese or English:
Wei Wuxian: 江澄 / Jiang Cheng,
用不用下手这么狠啊?!/ Did you have to be so ruthless?!
In between those two lines, Wei Wuxian says 你大爷的 nidayede, literally, ‘your grandfather’s,’ and considering that 他妈的 tamade / ‘his/her mom’s’ is probably the closest tonal analogue in modern Mandarin of fuck, Wei Wuxian upgrading it to Jiang Cheng’s grandfather is upping the ante quite a bit
two separate anons about the same artist... perhaps I will return to listening songs in English now...
#ask lightning round#it's been a few months since I've listened to songs in English that it literally takes me off guard now when Bastille comes up on shuffle#BAM we're back down to forty-some asks#I can sleep easy now
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Mobei-jun from SVSSS
Submission: He's a demon tsundere who doesn't realize his human boyfriend is scared and easily squishable. Got demoted from king to cabinet minister during a hostile takeover but is pretty chill about it. Huge boobs.
Zhuzhi-lang from SVSSS
Submission 1: Snake boy my beloved
Submission 2: I love him
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#mobei jun#zhuzhi lang#svsss#mxtx#polls#mxtx side characters round 1#mxtx side characters round 1 side b#queue
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A-Qing from MDZS
Propaganda: She's so smart. She tricked so many people into thinking she was blind for so long. Also, she was really kind and considerate. Like she didn't have to save all of those people from Xue Yang. Oh and she's an excellent judge of character and super brave. Really hope she wins, she's such a fun little genius girl
Mu Qingfang from SVSSS
Submission: Ppl tend to completely forget he has a mad scientist side (see Jinlan arc) and if he gets into the tournament I'll have a reason to bring it up.
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LBH’s Harem from SVSSS
Submission: Binghe's harem the whole collection all of them together an amalgamation of all the wives
Known Members: Little Palace Mistress, Liu Mingyan, Ning Yingying, Qin Wanrong, Qin Wanyue, Qiu Haitang, Sha Hualing
Jiang Cheng from MDZS
Submission 1: Extremely traumatized yet also somehow the most normal and functional by the end. Huge bitch but I (and at least one of the other characters) think he deserves to be even worse after everything he's been through
Submission 2: Simultaneously badass and the most cringefail man. Extremely funny and stylish but still manages to be very uncool. Cries a lot. Also he's lost a lot of tumblr polls—let's give him another shot! We definitely love him more than his dad did!
Submission 3: He's got mommy issues AND daddy issues. He loves his sister and his shige so much. He's traumatised and incredibly competent. He rebuilt his whole sect! He's an asshole (affectionate). He's purple! He's got the coolest weapon ever conceived. I'm so worried about his blood pressure basically all the time.
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Mianmian / Luo Qingyang from MDZS
Girlboss instantly shut down the misogynists in her clan by leaving without hesitation. Iconic work.
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Six Balls from SVSSS
Submission: When he was born he weighed as much as six balls. Current ball number unknown.
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Jiang Yanli from MDZS
“Madam Jin. A-Xian is my younger brother. A humiliation to him is not something trivial to me.” - Drama
Elder Sister Syndrome in its highest form who is just trying to protect her loved ones despite having no talent in cultivation.
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Xue Yang from MDZS
Submission: It's not that he's evil. He lacks empathy and he goes into a disassociative state and commits atrocities.
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Wen Ning from MDZS
Submission emitted for potential character hate
Chose kindness again and again - sheltering Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng from the other Wens, sacrificing himself with his sister to save Wei Wuxian and the Wen Remnants - only to inadvertently/paritally cause Wei Wuxian’s downfall & the seige on the Burial Mounds with his own hands by killing Jin Zixuan (not of his own will, btw). Another tragic character who sacrificed and put himself at risk to protect people who died anyway
Gongyi Xiao from SVSSS
Submission: He is such a Good Person who didn't deserve his fate :(
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Lan Xichen form MDZS
Submission: Pay your respects to the captain of the WangXian ship! Those idiots would keep pining for another 13282627 years if it weren't for him!
Sha Hualing from SVSSS
Submission: Her cringefail losergirl swag has captivated me
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