#mr. perry can go die

[janeiscompletelyfine]

Speaking of torture I decided to hurt myself again (second time this week?!) and watched the Dead Poets Society for the first time hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :)

And. Um.

✨Keen✨

Ohh he's just a little guy with social anxiety leave him aloneeee

Rrrrrip! Thank you Keating I needed that.

No :)

I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK, CUTTING THROUGH THE JUNGLE WITH A GOLDEN TRACK!

Oh my gosh they're so gay. All of them. Do we ship Keating and the Latin teacher? Because I do.

ThE sAxOpHoNe

Fuck that guy.

Those two are the gayest of gay your honor. This is truth.

GO KNOX (that girl is really pretty jriwoghosj)

OH FUCK THAT GUY!

Oh shit.

Uh, did I have a soul before this? I don't think so.

Oh Captain, My Captain! says Jane, me, in tears, forever changed.

He's alright he's alright he's alright he's alright broke my heart into a million little pieces, I don't know who I am anymore, everybody's sad, and now I have to do things?! I need to go contemplate life and write poetry actually. That's my calling now. My reference: John Keating.

❤️Jane

[ace-with--a-mace]

mr neils father pls compliment your son tell him he was amazing pls he was so good

[oraclefreak]

I think we, DPS fans, don't talk about Charlie during the school's tribute to Neil enough.

He's not singing.

Meeks, Pitts and Knox are singing, letting all their feelings out.

Cameron is singing a little calmer. You can see the sadness in him though.

Todd is stuttering words, not even singing—but he's trying.

Charlie does not sing.

I'm sorry for the picture's quality.

At first I thought he didn't sing because he was angry at Neil for leaving all of them; the Dead Poets, Keating and his dreams of becoming an actor. We saw at the beginning of the film how Charlie tried to convince Neil to speak up to his parents. I think he really wanted Neil to be happy, and he knew he wouldn't be if he stayed silent and pursued being a doctor because of his father.

During Neil and Mr. Keating's talk in the office, Neil mentioned Charlie: "We are not a rich family like Charlie's" (quoted by memory). Charlie tried to make Neil pursue acting when they had different social backgrounds; Charlie could go against his parents and not ruin everything. But Neil was an only child from a family that was mantained by his father and no one else... and not particularly wealthy either.

Even if they had those differences, they didn't separate them. And both of them were boys with dreams they couldn't follow easily. Charlie was more rebellious (especially when it came to school's authorities). Neil was more of the type to go with whatever people wanted. Charlie was more risk-taking. Neil's risk in the whole movie was participating in the play (yes, the club wasn't a Neil risk; it was all of the poets').

Charlie was really proud of Neil for finally following his dreams.

"He's good. He's really good."

Sounds familiar?

"I was good. I was really good."

This parallel makes sense to me, especially if we analyze the very first scene of Charlie and Neil in the movie. As I said, Charlie wanted Neil to speak up to his father. And when he did and it all broke apart; Neil said words Charlie had said about him during the play.

Obviously, Charlie disliked Neil's dad. We can be sure about that, definitely.

The school's tribute to Neil was either Mr. Perry's idea or he gave the permission to do it. The authorities thought of Neil's death as the institution's problem. Keating was suspicious from the beginning because of his unconventional teaching methods (plus Mr. Perry thought Keating told Neil to keep his place in the performance, which he did—but he made it look like it was a real problem... 1950s, let's go).

Charlie didn't think this event of singing words of grief and so on was for Neil. Neil didn't die to be missed. Neil died because he would miss out on what he wanted to do. But that reasoning didn't even come across the authorities' heads.

I think of Charlie as a person who has an internal philosophy, a reasoning that most people wouldn't think of. So, when every single one of his friends are singing because they miss Neil; Charlie does not sing because this is a way to pay respects to Mr. Perry for losing his son. A way to say the authorities are right. A way to say "Neil... poor boy." Neil was miserable because he wasn't free. And his only way to be free was... not living.

I believe this "Charlie wasn't singing" thing can be interpreted in many, many ways. I probably overanalyzed it because 6 years of DPS make someone go insane eventually. What I do think is clear is that Neil and Charlie's friendship was very obvious from the start. And yes, the not singing thing is something to observe and think about... but their whole friendship isn't very talked about in the fandom! And I had the idea to write about not only the movie's scenes that have both of them, but also how I perceive it (hence why I would describe this post as a theory rather than facts).

I would love to see other people's takes on this subject too !!

[sheeezu]

It's my first time seeing DPS shifter!! That movie is such a comfort for me (I know haha). I even got matching tattoos with my sibling based off of it with "Make your lives extraordinary". I would love to hear you talk more about it if you're comfortable with that. Do you maybe have any stories from that DR? Do you have an S/O there or made it different from the source material?

Hi :) I actually got a similar ask, asking about my dps society, it got lost in the drafts.

(I hope that person sees this)

(What fun boys they are)

My dead poets society dr

It was mostly based on the source material but a special someone does not die. Also I couldn't fit a girl in an all boys school, nor did I wanted to, so I went in as male.

It also took place in 1989, I wasn't going back that far.

I love Neil Perry, I wasn't going to leave him alone so we ended up as roommates, and adjusted Todd with Knox.

My S/O was my unassuming Neil Perry (ofc)

I actually have a lot to talk about, but I'm just going to break down how each character was like, kind of like a storytime which could fit in one post (if you're unsatisfied, you can always ring my inbox again, even disguise yourself by changing your tone of writing a bit)

Neil Perry

I'd like to say, this guy has no object permeance. If he get's excited then he becomes a literal hazard. One time, he pulled me so harshly by my wrist, to the point of dislocating my shoulder. disclaimer, he will vent out to you all night long if he's upset, not realizing it's 3am and you both have classes tomorrow, and you can barely keep your eyes open. Otherwise he's really sweet, and nice class participation as well. (idk why i mentioned that)

Todd Anderson

Todd, even though he claims "he can take care of himself", he can't. He's always lost, and childishly likes to ignore social cues. He's actually very gullible, at least with me. Other than that, for no reason at all, i'd sneak into his room to read his personal diary; like it was simply an interesting novel and not an invasion of someone's privacy, he wrote about every single social interaction he had that day.

Charlie Dalton

CHARLIE, CHARLIE, CHARLIE. other than his usual obnoxiousness (as seen in the media) he will get serious when required, personally for me, he had been the person I could tell ANYTHING to. He's responsible for writing inappropriate words in the bathroom stalls (this is the dr where i removed urinals, because excuse you, i am not man-ing like this; instead there were stalls) Sleeps with his mouth open, hits on every breathing things, but doesn't have interest in anyone.

Mr. Keating

I ASPIRE to be this man. Honestly throughout the lectures, when they took a weird turn, i was very much the "I'd like to be excluded from this narrative" type of guy.

He would never get mad if any of the student were to visit him, no matter the time, whether it was late at night, he never got mad at all!

I ended up having an entire convo on the multiverse with him, and he agreed and patted me on the back, saying "you're onto something, pal."

...

This was getting long, but tbh I enjoyed writing this (this had been in my drafts for weeks) im pretty sure their are only a handful of dps shifters, a handful of people shifting for THE BEST MEDIA EVER.

i get that your ask, requested a storytime, and this isn't that, i'm sure i'll make one, that'll actually be in the form of a story.

(also of course, some people are left out, will come to them later ..?)

...

[hardkittyprince]

Dear Neil Perry,

I am graving you even though I didn’t know you, even though I know you were just a character written by some brilliant mind. But deep inside my heart, I swim in sorrow and happiness too. I’m sorrowful because the time I see you die, it felt like I died or a part of me died who did the crime to dream, to think, to hope—maybe it? I decided to do what I really want. I’ll be happy without feeling suffocated or feeling like I am alive but living someone else's dream every time I breathe. And when you finally knew what you wanted to do, I felt giddy and over the moon for you so much that my family thought that I was having an affair. But as much as Todd was worried about what your father will do when he find out, I too was feeling anxious the whole time and when I see you reach the part where you reach the hall and saw your fellow co-actors, rehearsing then the spark I saw for that time in your eyes make me feel relief. But when you reached your room and saw your father, I can see how your eyes were in pain knowing your dreams were going to get crushed by the expectations of your father and mother. But you had Keating who supported you. Even if it's for the same time he was there and made you live. You live your dream for the first time but sadly Mr. Keating didn’t know it will also be the last time when you feel fully lived without any burden on your shoulder.( I can’t write more or i will cry. When you died, a part of me died too. Knowing not everyone’s dreams come true. I feel so connected to you that it hurts. You will always be the best and loved/missed character I have ever watched in my current and upcoming life i promise I will make myself better I will try my best to be a part that i learnt from you thank you

[bee--28]

Why Mr. Perry isn't the worst human known to mankind, with textual exidence!

Welcome one, welcome all to the hill I will die upon. This could be an academic essay, but I'm on an airplane, typing this with less than an hour left in my flight, on my phone. Plus, I got less than 2 hours a sleep, so I don't have the brain power for a proper essay.

Now, into the meat of it. Mr. Perry, while a bad father and not an all-around great guy, wasn't evil or horrible or anything else people like to say he was, and he doesn't deserve the death penalty. He was a middle-class father trying to give his son the most prosperous life while not thinking about what that meant for Neil or Neil's feelings in the matter. Did he go about any of it in the proper, good parent ideal we like to push onto fictional characters? No, absolutely not. Is this ideal realistic? Also, no. Does the unrealism of it all excuse anything? Still no.

We, as humans, are inherently flawed. We do bad things without realizing, we hurt people. These are facts. Some more than others, but all of us still do it, mostly, unconsciously. And all of us should be held accountable for these actions. Mr. Perry's actions are flawed, he is not a good parent, and none of my later statements will be made with the intention of implying anything of the sort. However, he was not coming from a place of malice with his actions. He cared for his son, deeply, and I personally believe some people in this fandom are far too wrapped up in their personal feelings toward their own parents to realize such. And this is not to say people who relate to Neil cannot feel a specific way about Mr. Perry or his actions, but analysis is not the place for projections.

You may be thinking, "Woah woah woah, hold up just a minute, you said you had textual evidence, this just looks like you're making generalizations as proof!" To those of you who are thinking this, you hold up just a minute, I'm getting there. Examining textual evidence is visual media, like movies, can be incredibly difficult but let us remember that every acting choice, directing choice, and writing choice is 100% intentional and nothing that makes the final cut is a blunder or too minute of a detail.

I'm going to cite from Neil's post death scene when his parents find his body, as that is the moment we see Mr. Perry express care for Neil.

Mr. Perry is the one to hear the gun shot, he is first to Neil's body, he is cradling his son, and he is crying out to his son. Let's disect this piece by piece. Mr. Perry hearing the gunshot, which is silent to the viewer as a way of showing that Neil was as silenced in death as he was in life. But Mr. Perry heard it. This is showing that Mr. Perry is finally hearing his son, seconds too late to save him. Thus, this is reflective of Mr. Perry finally understanding Neil as well, understanding how he compromised his son's life.

Then, Mr. Perry is quick to Neil's body. Before Mrs. Perry. "Oh, pish posh, why does that matter!" Because it's the writers' and director's way of showing us Mr. Perry cares. Movies don't have the ability to spell out the meanings of certain things like books do so we, as viewers, must infer. In a typical 1950s dynamic, the mother, the nurture, will always be the first one there in a situation like this. However, it's Mr. Perry who runs to Neil's body. It's Mr. Perry who cradles his dead son. This is important, this is intentional, this is showing the viewer that Mr. Perry isn't a heartless abusive father, even though he seems to be.

I have seen some say that Mr. Perry was mourning the loss of what he was forcing Neil to be, I'm gonna need those people to shut up, leave, and block me. 1st off, the scene in which Neil's body is found is the first time we aren't getting the story from a child's eyes. Every other moment of Mr. Perry's screen time is from Neil's perspective. We must take it with a grain of salt and understand that Neil has felt like he and his feelings don't matter to his father. The wondrous thing about perspective is that it in itself shifts the narrative. This scene all my evidence is from is a shift in the narrative, it lets us in on the knowledge that Mr. Perry wasn't the worst father ever. Mr. Perry didn't know what his actions were doing to Neil, as we all know, Neil is an excellent actor and deliberately didn't allow himself to be vulnerable and show his father how he felt. This is, of course, because of his fear that his father wouldn't listen, etc, etc. Anyone who cares to read this far already knows Neil's perspective on the situation, and in the interest of saving time and my thumbs the strain, I will not be getting into that.

There's certainly more that I could talk about on the matter, but thoughts are slipping into the abyss as I'm exhausted, so maybe another day :/

Also! The whole thing that makes Dead Poets Society the masterpiece that it is, is that no character is truly "bad" or at fault for what happens in it. Everyone is a victim of the times and societal pressures.

[yournormalidiot]

More hc!! (They are all mini essay's again:})

Todd has a strined relationship with his parents but is closer to his mother, sense she was always more warm to him and he has less bad memories. (There's a few and there really bad, like they thing when he thinks about him) he's still second to Jeff, like his mam will fawn over Jeff than todd, unlike his dad who just goes on about Jeff and only Jeff.

Meeks is a complete and utterly mamas boy, he is a carbon copy of his mother and she loves it so much. She fawns over him and happy she is that they look the same. (They also have similar interests, she's a big nerd to and his dad's more sporty but loves him non the less) also super close with all his aunts

Pitts adores his both his parents, he lives baking with his mom and gossiping and talking about who he likes and blah blah. (She's really cool and chill, like super excepting of everything) but also his dad, they go photographying together and was the one who got him into it.

Knox loves both his parents, not super close to either but very close to his grandparents on his mom's side (his favourite is his grandad) also adores his nana on his dad side, helps take Carr if her alot (she has dementia and also his grandad is dead)

Charile likes his parents, doesn't love them and isn't close with either and pretends he doesn't care. (He does and desperately wants their love, part if the reason he acts out sm) he's closest with his older sister and would die for her. (She loves him just as much if not more)

Neil is complicated, he loves both his parents even if it's hard. He's nit very close with either, his father is to strict and controlling (Neil's understands why he's like that but still hates it) and his mother is very closed off (she has some from of depression, I don't think she wanted to marry Mr Perry but was forced and it effected her badly over the years. Plus his lack if effective make it worse)

Cameron loves his parents and they love him, but in more of a "i love you cause we're family and I have to" way. I don't think Cameron was panned for and it made their lives very messy (also partly why the moved to England) they were never bad to Cameron, they act very much like aunt/uncle and nephew. So their all close but not in a typical way basically. Unlike with his little sister, she was planned and they are great parents. (Cameron knows this and doesn't care, it does sadden him somtimes but he loves his sister to much ti really care)

He's probably closer with his grandparents (Mostly his granny) his granddad is a bit old fashion and also very old so he can't do alot. But his granny is very relaxed and fit so she does alot. (He helps her and takes care of them both when he can)

[crybabysunflower]

TW// suicide

Sometimes I keep thinking about the interview with the Dead Poets Society boys where Bobby revealed that some random woman yelled at him for "showing suicide in a heroic light" and I cant help but seethe at her for being so fucking wrong (besides the fact that she should have left him alone, he was not the one who came up with that idea, it was Tom Schulman). The whole point of Neil's character arc went above her head.

Neil's death was the final blow to the Dead Poets Society and everything starts to go all downwards after that part. Keating gets expelled for "influencing Neil to pursue acting", Charlie, who was his best friend also gets expelled for not signing the letter. And most importantly, Thomas Perry felt zero remorse over his son's dying. He took no accountability for it and blamed it all on Keating. If the writers really wanted to show anything positive about his suicide they could have atleast made Mr Perry own up his actions and try to be a better person. BUT THEY DID NOT.

Besides, as someone who relates to Neil and one of the major reasons being my own history with self harm and failed attempts, if anything that scene did to me is to punch me hard in the gut. It was a harrowing watch. Many time whenever I have wanted to take my own life I actually did not particularly want to die but to simply escape my trapping situation and in my own personal interpretation, I find that it likely stands true for Neil as well. After the play not only he gets forever trapped in the clutches of his father, but also loses most people he cherishes, The Poets, Mr Keatings, his best friend Charlie and his room mate Todd. In his hopeless mental state, he was left with no other option but to choose death. He could have had tried to run away from home but was likely caught and thats why it never crossed his mind. Neil's situation is a horrifying reality because I can see it happening to me, one of my biggest fear includes losing all of my friends and never being able to escape my abusers and thats exactly what happened.

Maybe some people might assume that Neil was happy when he killed himself. But for me I believe, he wasnt, I believe he wanted to live but unfortunately was put in such a harrowing situation that he found no way out

[pookielious]

Everything Richard Cameron did was a grief response to Neil's death and vaild, Neil's death was impacted on everyone especially on charlie and todd BUT it was also impacted cameron to the extent it moved along the storyline

Before I get into why it was vaild we have to look at his relationship with Neil, it's basically established that all of the poets (- todd ofc) has known each for at least a year prior to the events of the movie,charlie is roomed with cameron which he wasn't excited about most likely due to him being a goody too shoes and a avid rule follower, neil himself even says that he's tackles and born with a foot in his mouth so clearly he isn't one of the more favorite friends

However neil can be seen attempting to include cameron is group activities for example they are talking about restarting the dead poet society, and he agrees to join after neil insists on him joining, Neil was basically the only poet to not act annoyed by him for a good chunk of the film unlike charlie who's always ripping on him for one thing or another

As the poet society thrives you can see more and more of cameron being more loose about the rules and alot more scenes were he's clearly happy and getting along with the others alot more

There is some grey area after the play its unknown what he did after since he wasnt with the rest of the group during the deleted meeting with ginny and chris but eventually we get to the day after Neil's death, it's also unclear exactly what he'd been doing that morning but it's safe to assume he wasn't not around when the others went to tell todd, but after we see Todd's reaction it's cut to the assembly with the rest of the school and clearly like all of the poets he's devastated by the news of Neil's death; it's unclear if he'd already known about it similar to the other boys or if he'd learned right before/during the assembly

Oh course like all of the poets at the time he was clearly vulnerable at the time, we aren't sure alot of what happened with cameron most of this time but we do know he did tell nolan just about everything about the club which is the main reason alot of the fandom is mad at him for which is valid BUT we still have to consider he's still a child, going through as much grief as the others AND that he basically lost on of the only people in his friend group that was actually nice to him alot of the him and that actively showed interest in wanting to include him in things,Neil's death makes a rivet in the group and caneron isolated himself, taking comfort in the rules again and the stability that they'd offer in his life that's seems to be falling apart, of course die to his comfort in the rules and the stress it caused he tells nolan everything about the club most likely thinking that that mightve been the only thing he could to to save his friends in the club and himself even though it'd throw Keating under the bust

Personally I don't think it would've been cameron to be the one who blamed Keating it most likely would've been mr perry due to his distain for Keating due to the night before; Mr perry clearly blames Keating for Neil's death and his love for acting shown in the deleted funeral scene they talk in, cameron was most likely convinced into saying it was Keating so somebody besides nolan was to blame, as charlie said that the trustees of the school wouldn'tve let the death slide and the school would've most likely been closed do to some sort of negligents

Cameron who was already stressed about the situation goes to his friends, the people he was trying to save by saying it was Keating, his whole speech about how they shouldn't ruin their lives pretty much explained itself

In conclusion he wasn't manipulative (cough cough villain wiki) or a antagonist he was just a guy going though a thought time like the rest of the group, his response to it was just different; the rest of the poets of vaild for being mad but the fandoms over hatred for him and the villainization wasn't deserved ty for reading🛐🛐

He's so silly

[superman-the-secret-third-thing]

Radio Superman is Lizard-Brained

I'm not listening to it all- since there's so much of it, but I listened to first thirty or so episodes and plan on listening to further highlights such as "The Clan of the Fiery Cross" which irl directly lead to the KKK's loss of power in the US.

The show started in 1940, and differs greatly from the comics of the time:

Krypton is on the other side of the sun.

Superman can fly from the beginning.

Most importantly- Superman gestated in the pod and arrived in the US as a fully grown man.

The last one- the lack of Kents or any human experience have lead to some strange moments.

Superman feels an urge to help people he can't explain, and his first action is rescuing a boy named Jimmy and his grandfather from a car crash. They react predictably- screaming for him to let go. He presumably rolls his eyes at the ungrateful fellows and drops them less gently than intended. They calm down, thank him, and ask him if they can do anything. He asks for two things- how to find more people to save and to keep his existence a secret.

Pointing him towards the Daily Planet, he presumably steals clothing from someone along the way. He walks in through the front door, heads to Perry White's office, gives him a firm handshake and asks for a job as reporter-

White says no, who the hell are you you have no experience and Clark interrupts him to ask if he gets the story on a nearby train robbery will he get the job. White questions how he heard about that (he'd been on the phone), and Clark flawlessly ignores him with his super-hearing (a running gag in the series). The editor sighs and says, "Sure kid, whatever."

He walks into the hallway, establishes a repetoire with Lois Lane who is surprised at the sudden application, but offers him directions to the train station. He gives her his thanks, bows, and then leaps out the window. Lois screams in horror (because it looks like he committed suicide) and it spends a minute with her in hysterics before cutting to him on the train.

Clark does shenanigans on the train, and sits back down with a sigh of relief, only to be confronted by the conductor, who notes his lack of ticket and becomes angry, accusing him of being a stowaway and intending to toss him in the jail.

Clark, nervous, realizing that he's broken a rule and doesn't want trouble, just insists that he be thrown off the train. Just out the window, throw me out the window, its fine, i've been a bad boy.

The conductor, previously angry, now concerned, tries to wrestle the strange man to prevent him from committing suicide- but loses his grip and the strange man is suddenly gone.

This all happens in the first couple of episodes.

There's more stuff, like he continually forgets that humans need to breathe air.

Being a terrible liar...

Criminal: "Worry not, Mr. Reporter. We're gonna leave you here, in this steel-plated, concrete room....forever! Hahaha!"

Clark: "Oh, okay."

Criminal: "..."

Clark (realizing something): "Oh no! I'm gonna die in here because I need to breathe human air with my human lungs, and my human arms can't get through all this metal and concrete."

Criminal: (eyebrow raised, closes the door.)

Clark puts on his Superman face and laughs jubilantly as he digs through the concrete wall, bragging about how thin the metal walls are- but....Clark. There's a door right there. Just take the door!

It's surprising how funny it is, and there's more interesting stuff. Many things originated in radio canon which then were quietly inserted into comics continuity.

The comics called it The Daily Star, not the Daily Planet.

Superman can fly- he couldn't in the comics at the time.

The Editor was someone named Thomas, and was retconned into Perry.

Most amusingly, Kryptonite was invented to give Bud Hollyer (Superman's VA) a holiday.

Jimmy Olson.

[orange-s-mario]

Supermen:

this is going to be a long one

1. Kal-L/Clark Kent/Superman

this guy is the actual golden age superman. This universe was basically were they put him since Earth-Two and Golden Age Superman stories; had some inconsistencies. 2. Kal-El/Sonn/Clark Kent. First he was Superboy, then he was Superman

I love this guy. He's great. He feels alienated all the time and is also almost always going through it. He is NOT well at all. He also has a large dating life - mostly with women with L. L. initials; most notably Lois, Lana, and Lori. He also remembers Krypton due to supermemory. He is friends with the Legion of Superheroes (Original)

NON-CLARK DETOUR #1 3. Ar-Val, the tyrant Superman

Kal handpicked a Kandorian successor after some tests, due to Clark losing his powers. It didn't quite go well and ended in tragedy for Ar-Val 4. Not a Superman but a "Skyman," Klar-Don, a predecessor to Superman

He's basically just Superman on Krypton; Although it seems like he just has Flight due to his Flight Belt (the other Superman past lives only had one power; Erok the magnificent had a potion that made him have super-strength, and Skuldor had V-goggles which let him use X-ray vision). He works for the Daily World, he has a friend named Jol-Lar, there's a Lois, and a Perry. I like to think he's the ancestor of Vol-Don (a member of the Kryptonian lookalike Squad

-End detour

5. Kal-L/Superman

This is Earth-Two Kal-L. He's basically golden age Superman with a few differences to make him standout from Earth-One Superman. He also married Lois, and met Lana again after he married Lois. There's also only 4 other survivors of Krypton. He's also great. also I want to give a shoutout to his "Mr. and Mrs. Superman" S logo.

I just think it's neat

6. Clark Joseph Kent/Kal-El

...he was literally born on this planet. At least at first. THIS GUY has THREE ORIGINS. First Man of Steel, then Birthright, then Secret Origins. Secret Origins adds Superboy back to his mythos. He has met all versions of the Legion, but was specifically part of "Original" Legion (Retroboot)

NON-CLARK DETOUR #2

7. Steel 1 (the only Reign of Supermen character to NOT claim he was Superman)

He's cool. Also when Christopher Priest was writing him, he was basing him off Dwayne Mcduffie, I just wanted to let you know that. He's had multiple origins as well, but I think the gist is that the new 52 beginning stuff happens first and then Death of Superman.

8. Eradicator... 2(?)

HE WAS AN EGG. his lore gets pretty complicated, especially due to all the weird absorbing other people's consciousness parts; He was actually made by a different alien, but Kem-L made him a xenophobe. Or something like that. I think all Post-Crisis Eradicator appearances are the same guy? Apparently not; New Krypton Eradicator is a different one, but he DOES have the og's memories. So it's a David Conner situation. He can sense things from not the main universe being in the main universe. He changed and grew as a person because of Guy Gardner 8.5 Eradicator...3 ?

(apparently not the same guy; this guy must have even more identity issues then post-david connor eradicator)

9. Superboy (Kon-El, later Conner Kent)*

He also has two origins. His original origin links him to many Jack Kirby concepts and makes him one - a DNAlien, a metahuman made by genetically modifying human DNA. He was the clone of Paul Westfield (westfield is evil btw). Johns retcons this into a half-Luthor half-Superman clone (superman is good btw), who always is worried about turning EVIL due to EVILLL GENES. Anyways Young Justice (2019) revealed he was on gemworld during flashpoint so he survived. He's also met the legion (reboot) *He has referred to himself as Superman

10. Cyborg Superman (Hank Henshaw)

he has Reed Richard's origins, except his crew doesn't really survive. He became a mass of energy and basically can't die. Much more of a GL villain, but has become a Superman villain again recently

-End detour

11. Kal-El/Clark Joseph Kent

This Superman starts out as a Champion of the Oppressed like his golden age counterpart, then quickly gets into bigger and bigger ideas like a 5th dimensional being trying to sell out Superman. He also met a version of the legion that doesn't exist anymore due to saving him. He died and also maybe he got better (see Sideways) and also he fused with the post-crisis guy, leading to:

12. Superman Reborn (Kal-El/Clark Joseph Kent)

yeah sure this makes sense. (it does not, Superman has a bunch of contradictions with just post-crisis and post-flashpoint) 12.5 Infinite Frontier Superman (Kal-El/Clark Joseph Kent... maybe also Sonn?)

everything is canon now. How does that work with the various versions of Superman? It doesn't. This is where we are now. There really hasn't been much changes to Superman lore though. The biggest thing was probably Lex being a superhero in early metropolis. The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that this Clark has met all the legions

NON-CLARK DETOUR #3 13. Alexander "Lex" Luthor

After Prime Earth Superman died, many people took to the skies to carry on his legacy. One of such people is Lex Luthor

14. Kong Kenan, the New Super-Man

Kenan is imbued with the chi of Prime Earth Superman and gains superpowers, He develops and changes and grows as a person and learns how to use his powers as well as learns more about his family. Highly recommend New Super-Man

15. Denny Swan

He was hit by a sentient bolt of energy that carried a mutated genome of Prime Earth Superman so he thinks he's Superman, He blew up.

16. Emperor Super-Man/Super-Man Zero

A prototype Super-Man, also made by infusing him with the chi of prime earth superman; he was lab-grown

[introverting-rn]

i listen to history podcasts as though i can change what happened if i leave enough swear words in historical figure’s voicemails

“hindenburg. hindenburg, listen to me- HINDENBURG, YOU WHORE, DO NOT MAKE HIM CHANCELLOR HE WILL NOT WORK WITH YOU PEACEFULLY”

“wilson you absolute fucker what have you done with the peace points. wilson you were gonna build a new world - wilson how the fuck do you have airpods in did you seriously get all those reparations just to buy airpods”

“shove that espionage job up your own fucking arse don’t give it to the toothbrush - oh for fucks sake. you’ve ruined a perfectly good workers party is what you’ve done. look at it! it has a dictator!!”

“listen, nicky, i know you want to help your people but please just stay in your fucking room you don’t know shit about running an army. nicky go back inside and take off the fucking general badge”

“MATTHEW FUCKING PERRY I WILL SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE JUST DIE”

“hey nicky it’s me again. look i just think you should be focusing on how much he reeks instead of how he ‘healed’ your son, he smells like a goat that shat itself… you know he actually might be a goat. check his ears”

“mr archduke sir i respect your compassion for your soldiers. you’re an honourable man. tell your chauffeur to go around the block instead of doing a three point turn thanks i love you bye”

[driftinghorse]

a writing snippet since i havent made any new drawings asjhakfhkakdj - a study in stars

“I heard you went to her sister’s wedding?” Perry questions, leaning over his desk.

“I’ve talked to you about bugging me during class hours.”

“They’re working on Field Day investigations right now, dude, no one’s here.”

“Still on the clock. And, did she tell you?”

“Oh,” she laughs out, “she did. She told me just how much fun she had, and just how handsome you looked.”

“Get to the point.”

“Fine,” Perry bites out, “all this stuff that she told me you did for her—it doesn’t sound like you. At all. So spit it out. You like Phoebe, don’t you?”

“Yes.”

“And don’t even bother lying to me, I know—wait, just like that?!”

His eyelids narrow at her, and he deadpans, “What, did you expect me to be difficult?”

“When are you not? And, since when?!”

“I’m not exactly sure.”

All of his blunt and suspiciously honest sounding answers are beginning to scare her, so she scoffs, “And you said you didn’t want to see her the first day you two met.”

“I do recall that, yes. But I also recall that we never quite discussed the fact that you went behind my back and tricked me into—”

“Oops, gotta go now, got meetings with the kids, you know!!” Perry straightens up, immediately heading for the door. “Good luck with your love life, you’ll do great, I’m rootin’ for ya, bye!!”

---

Not long after they’ve begun dating, he’s standing out in the rain with her. She twirls happily, seemingly unbothered by the fact that she does not have an umbrella.

A fact that he himself is very much bothered by.

She calls out to him, “Doesn’t this feel great?”

“You’ll catch a cold, Phoebe Fray.”

“Spoilsport! Can’t you enjoy something romantic just once?”

It’s then that Darius remembers something. “You’re half French, correct? Say something romantic, then.”

She stops her twirling and bounding, glancing at him behind her shoulder.

“Il pleut comme vache qui pisse,” she says through the world’s most shit-eating grin.

---

Death has never scared him. He knows, just as well as anyone else, that where there is life, there is death. All things die eventually. No one’s special.

But how do the ones left alive continue? Who is he now?

She was the best part of him. Her and him, him and her, two matching pieces, facing the world together. She was his other half, his one and only, so how…

How does he go back to being just one half?

Where does he put his heart, which has been returned to him against his will?

It’s so heavy.

After a long time, he slowly rises from his seat. So that’s what happens when you give a part of yourself away. It gets given back.

He’s not afraid of death. He is, in fact, a very practical man.

He’s just afraid of living.

---

The next few years pass by in what seems to Darius is a never ending daze. He can’t bring himself to care about much, and his teaching style becomes much harsher. His shell reforms, only this time, with a renewed vigor, one that could only be the result of the worst heartbreak.

He doesn’t talk much. Perry tries to do what she can to keep him socialized and provide company, but even she gets tired of fighting off his refusals, and even she still feels the sharp aches of loss.

So one annoyingly sunny day, in the sixth year of this daze, Perry strides into Darius’s classroom on the first day of school, approaching him and his newest trouble student: a girl named Haley Chiaki.

“Ah, you two have met?” She forces a smile, internally cursing herself for not informing Darius of this situation sooner. She had hoped the girl wouldn’t attract attention to herself, but alas, that was in vain. “That makes my job easier.”

A lie, of course. That makes this ten times harder.

“Mr. Culbert, this is Haley Chiaki, as I’m sure you already know, and she is a… very special girl. You see, the School accepted her this summer, but there is a problem.”

“And what is that, Miss Perry?”

“Ah… here, read her file,” she answers, handing a thin file off to him, in an attempt to save herself from his wrath.

The room is silent for a few beats, before he reads aloud:

“'Inability to utilize magic of any kind'?”

Perry winces. “Yeah. She was a last minute acceptance, so we weren’t able to inform you of this before the year started, but we hoped… with your reputation and expertise, that you would be able to deal with this… problem.”

“Hey, I’m right here,” the girl, Haley, deadpans.

“Aware,” Darius shoots back tiredly. Turning to Perry, he hisses, “And you couldn’t have told me of this any sooner?”

The woman only offers a shy grin in apology. “Sorry… to be honest, I didn’t expect she’d be able to get in at all.”

“Still right here,” Haley says.

They only both give her a mildly curious look, as if she is a fly in their room, before turning back to one another. “Miss Perry… fine, I’ll see what I can do. But currently, I have an outstanding commission from the School, so if you’ll excuse me—”

“Oh, that’s perfect!”

He stops cold. “What?”

Perry smiles brightly, grabbing Haley by her shoulders and tugging her softly. “You can take her! She’s never seen a Source before, and you’ll be her teacher, anyway, so what better way than by example?”

“Do you mean to get her off of your hands as fast as you can, or do you genuinely think this is for the best? She won’t be able to do anything if—”

“It’s just a Source, so the vine monsters shouldn’t be any problem for you, great Flameknight,” Perry sings sarcastically. “And, yes, I do have a lunch to get to, so I won’t be able to give her a tour. Give her one for me, would you?”

Before Darius or Haley can protest (and they both look like they very much want to), Perry is out the door and gone.

Sighing heavily, Darius turns his critical gaze back on Haley. Now that it is reflecting a much stronger emotion than mild curiosity, and now that he looks pissed, Haley finds herself shrinking.

Grasping for anything to say to break the silence, she squeaks out, “So… what’s this about a Source?”

[yawping-poets-society]

i actually don’t think this is delusional at all. i fully believe none of the poets would have, after experiencing losing neil, make the same choice he did.

like op mentions, todd says "he wouldn't have left us," which stands as solid evidence on its own; todd can't fathom why neil would do this, can't believe it to the point of trying to blame mr. perry. knowing that, it seems pretty clear to me that todd wouldn't then do the same thing to his remaining friends. but i think there's more to it than that.

i remember the first time i saw the movie as i watched todd run towards the pier in the snow, there was this sinking feeling in my stomach. i was thinking “oh god, what’s he going to do, todd can’t die too” and i was so immensely relieved when he didn’t. while it might seem romantic and shakespearean, i don't think that's the direction the movie is trying to lead the audience in at all. and it’s a discredit to todd’s character to say he would do something like that.

this is also why i am Not a fan of those posts that say things like "todd would fully collapse after losing neil, probably never speak up again" because like... did we watch the same ending of the movie? everybody's entitled to their own opinions, but todd stood up on his desk first, and he did so after neil's death. he was devastated, yes, undoubtedly. but he wasn't rendered voiceless.

from my perspective, after neil's death, a sense of mortality probably really hit the poets. as a teenager, you feel a little immortal, a little invincible. neil's death shatters that illusion. in addition to this immense grief, can you imagine what was going through their heads? "holy shit, keating was right. we're actually all going to stop breathing, turn cold, and die," or perhaps even, "how much time do i have left for gathering my rosebuds, for contributing my verse?" i think neil's suicide is a tragic misinterpretation of carpe diem, but it probably really drove the idea into the boys' minds.

so no, i don't think todd would have followed neil's footsteps. i think he would have doubled down on poetry, beauty, romance, love. i think he would have tried to live his life to the fullest, because neil wasn't there to.

Unpopular opinion(?): I don't believe Todd would have killed himself after Neil died... The way he said, "He wouldn't have left us," and mentioned, "His father did it," makes me doubt he would choose the same path Neil did. Now that he understands the gut-wrenching pain of losing someone, I don't think Todd would want anyone else to experience that heartbreak. (I choose to be delusional)

[scentedchildnacho]

I dont know why cops were around last night....this bigger lady that was compulsive about appearing irish very very pale skin and bleached hair came back to the shelter after several white I guess ladies came and went....and she kind of acts like an immigrant its her place and other pale skin diasporas had to leave

Some whites become aggressive and this is always an incompetence problem there is no clinical referral it's all just suicide pogrom everything is poorly done and no help for them

There is an over dose problem in Riverside...and if people are angry enough to be aggressive then this program is kidney failure and maybe lynch intestinal syndrome they kept sending them to doctors who called them terrorists they cannot digest things

John hopkins and next generation genetic testing there is this other america like green finland where if you have a problem you call for help and people do like conduct medical process

There is a racist about the program and you can see in some church aid finally care about kidney failure there were these japaneese business women and they don't admit being who helped create this whole oriental idea

Why were we all collected here?

I don't ever take lower bunks and I may be on arrest myself I have a right to remain silent....and people don't give me a lot of consumer items because I do need a disability program to let me learn to create my own computer I can't see and that quick buy dealer creep out would just keep happening to me

Other pale characters left because of being open lesbian married or gay partners and if her pregnant wife was around access center staff had problems wanting to look at the angel of auchvitz porn or extreme fluid jail contortion insertions

Her pregnant wife in new political ideas like belief in growth and not a prior dictatorship based off bad ideas are cruel ideas ...is like a beautiful valuable model

So they did want to kill her and her baby with a he wants her that situation doesn't love her enough like the talented mr Ripley

Rawanda was a genocide engineered by fulgencio batista in Florida and inferior races to hackers can be called a pussy to re engineer as not a growth treason for the dictatorship that still won't leave

An Arab went and gave sadam Hussein his day in court and it's wrong in Arabic law to set up systems to keep pocket picking and refuse to admit wrongs and harms that should be apologized for responsibly

They don't have any language for apology and existence?

Las Cruces told me and out of the rain though told me to realize a military way or outsider is who directly terrorists on homeless people and thieves it's program funding into child soldiers and you have to get in with youth women militant trainings or they thieve all ones things

Well out of the rain lies all the time so if military process was consentive why would they have to lie and hide homeless people all the time

They need to hide that the budget is in war crimes

Consentive military uses military budgets it doesn't need to hijack civilian programs

You have to be with the families or left behind to die of pill kills...

So I think it is emigration though to homeless people their families do not have heat in winter if the children are not drafted

Its probably a mixed segregation team some of it immigrants

Then another pale lady kept acting too party friendly with the men and she after a few days was gone from shelter she i saw priorly in Perris telling me she found a housing program but apparently is like Walter and is trained by her staff psychiatric help to lie a lot so there is at least not outside sometimes

I later saw her just next to the road needing food donation plates so she also if demonstrating sexually risky behaviours was not competently referred

I don't know but anything extroverted has to leave and then the Irish type who also is Irish so demonstrates shocking or belligerent conduct keeps territorializing for all of that to have to come and go

That's how I view these situations China doesn't appreciate white racist terrorism attacking them and the women here come to get help and riverside county continues to embarrass itself with giving them to cults that will keep up pill kill humiliations

Then cops with German shepherds from the city so there is no apology to whites for continuing cult pride in humiliations to create terrorists

My class in terrorism counter terrorism with universitat leiden......just said if it's white terrorism like hells angels these processes don't stop because community cults have a lot of problems not embarrassing their institutionalized claims of prestige with cult gang process that continues to pornographize terrorist white women

For instance the Boston Marathon bombing allowed police a subjective kingly hunting run continuing to chase her and wanting to re instill her fame persona as an important villainess

These new terrorists are not hells angels hells angels created the air force but rather cassils it's these deliberate jail attacks on homeless women to call them through extreme emotional cruelty trans men

But rather space corps NASA

Out of the rain just reads a veteran on staff was burned in his house fire to death so that would be access center staff and attempted auchvitz cop rapes... It probably is sad as terrorists with normal native American families their maybe nice people to whites it kept trying to rape us to understand nativists

If its the young males at the access center desk that's digit and she as native American did teach him all he knows of racist get straight now most harm cruelty

Its staff digit does take their vaccines and they finally would understand Jax or some of the worst forced to be like indigenous people here nativisms

In the art world

[truckreincarnation]

15 Pints of Sacrifice | Nao | 2.5 | Re: Bian, Vee, Germain | Attn: Avery, Frank

This time, after everything, Nao listens. If there’s one skill they’ve worked on and utilized without fail, after all, it’s their ability to listen. 

An opinion needs to be valued to want to be heard.

“...” It’s too much though. it’s all too much - watching Bian yell like that, begging Frank for anything to prove them wrong. The same sentiment Nao shares - one that they can only admire Bian for expressing. As much as it pains them to admit, they hear no arguments that have swayed them - nothing that can make them think the fault in this situation would not be attributed to Frank, however accidental everything may have been.

But then Vee speaks, and suddenly Nao can feel their heart freeze.

Something angry 

“Who are you risking, exactly?”

It slips out before Nao can stop it, something sharp and acidic. It doesn’t hurt though - and the thing in Nao seems to settle for once. It’d be easy to shut their mouth, act as though they didn’t say a word.

…After everything though, they’re tired. Tired, quite literally, from being woken up repeatedly.

Tired of being an afterthought. Even in somebody’s defense of them, that’s what they are - a sentence tacked on to the end.

And isn’t it funny? Isn’t it funny how suddenly people like Manami were oh-so willing to show off how “good-natured” they were the minute somebody else was on the chopping block? How suddenly there was such a swell to name this an accident, as soon as Nao’s name was taken off the list?

Most of the people here never bothered to hide what they thought of Nao in the first place anyways. It’s irrational, as far as thoughts go. Nao can’t bring herself to care.  

“If you want to believe, that’s fine. But why are you acting like it’s an option that guarantees no death? If this isn’t an accident, you are putting up everybody. Germain was absolutely correct in what he said. Don’t commit to it exclusively because of some senseless notion of no death - because you’re risking the lives of everybody.  There is no self-sacrifice here - even I could die.” There’s a pause, and the words sink into Nao’s brain for the first time, because it’s true, isn’t it?

“I could die, and I wouldn’t have volunteered for it. You’re taking that choice away from everybody else if you go for that route for that reason. If you believe in it because of the evidence, because you can truly whole-heartedly believe in that, fine. I don’t begrudge you, but don’t talk about goodness or being willing to risk it as if you aren’t risking everybody else too, regardless of their opinion and willingness to die. You saw how 19 perished.”

Even in that, Nao was just an afterthought, an unfortunate possibility. 

Did they really think there was any mercy to be found here? Nao couldn’t tell if the optimism - because it was optimism, no matter what they all claimed - was genuine or forced. They didn’t care for it now, in any case. 

Glancing in Avery’s direction, however, Nao’s expression settles into something more professional. Calm. Unlike Vee’s words, evoking something sharp, unforgiving, and viscerally hurt, Avery’s words… just don’t. Maybe some gratitude from earlier is leftover, or maybe… Well, maye Nao enjoys Avery’s company. Maybe the argument is solid enough. 

Details don’t matter here, do they?

Nao can’t help but pause. Even they seem somewhat surprised by their own words. It’s not normally how they speak, and clearly so selfish.

Good.

“My issue still is, if Mr. Frank entered the room and that led to Ms. Perry being startled, I do think it would be counted against Mr. Frank. I don’t think he’s lying. I do believe Mr. Frank when he says it’s an accident. I just genuinely cannot believe the idea that it will not be used against us, that there’s any mercy to be found here. And…” Nao pauses, looking back to Avery.

“The gems keep bothering me. They don’t appear to have been hit by an explosion, but they do show signs of being very minorly chipped. But they were close enough to the body that something clearly occurred. Which leads to two possible conclusions. While not caught up in the explosion, they were somehow knocked off from the shelf. Or… Well, they were there for another reason.” 

Nao lets out a sigh.

“Avery, do you think the shattershone could have shaken the shelf enough for the gems to fall? Or… Well, I suppose to anybody, do you think Ms. Perry falling would be enough to knock those two gems down from a height large enough to cause minor chipping damage? And, additionally… Mr. Frank, would you please mind speaking more about where you left the gems you apparently took, and if you can recall which gems you took? Any sapphires or emeralds? This is not an accusation. I think narrowing down these details could help, as could anybody trying to remember the state of the gems and seeing if it seems likely it fell from the shelf. I currently can’t believe this won’t be pinned to you, despite it truly not being your fault, but I am willing to see if this can change my mind. I’d like it to.”

That seems to be all you’ll get from Nao, right now.