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Podcast Jam!
The PBC’s 2024 Podcast Jam is a collaborative event running from early February to May for anyone interested in creating an audio drama, both prior creators and newcomers to podcasting. Inspired by game jam events, teams of writers, voice actors, editors and artists will collaborate to create the pilot episode of a fiction podcast from start to finish, with the last weekend of the event dedicated solely to recording and editing of the episodes.
We know that, while the barrier of entry for podcasting is low, it can still be intimidating to jump into a show alone without any experience in the field. Thus, we hope this event will encourage new folks to try their hand at creating in a relatively low-stress, community-based environment, alongside giving current podcasters a fun change of pace from their ongoing shows. Though only a pilot will be created for the jam, participants are welcome and encouraged to continue their show beyond the event if so desired (we would love to have some new shows to keep up with!)
Event Schedule:
Sign-ups: February 5th - March 23rd
Team Submission Form Deadline: March 30th
Team Announcements: April 6th
Project Withdraw Date: April 20th
Jam Weekend: May 3rd - May 6th
Episode Submission: May 6th
Public Episode Release: May 25th
Jam Closing Ceremony: June 1st
To join the event, please fill out the Participant Sign-Up here. The jam will be hosted through the Podcast Book Club Discord - if you are not already a member, you can join the server here. For existing members, be sure to grab the Jam Participant role from the role selection channel to gain access to the PodJam chats! Additionally, we've set up a sideblog, @podcastjam, that you can follow to keep up with the event here on Tumblr!
#finch here - i am INCREDIBLY excited for this event and i really hope it encourages more folks to get involved in the audio drama scene :)#pbc podcast jam#podcast jam#podcasting#audio drama#Moderator Finch
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would the dog royal families be like pugs because of all the inbreeding? would love to see your take on a dog form of the Hapsburgs lol
Probably nowhere near as extreme as modern pugs and other hyper exaggerated breeds today, but to some degree certainly.
#royals and nobles were very inbred folk it's bound to create some hereditary health issues#Habsburgs spread so far and wide in European upper class circles they eventually had to start marrying each other#and are infamous for their protruding lower jaws#I think I'd have to come up with a specific Habsburg breed or something#because sometimes you see brachycephalic dogs with really truly bad underbites#but I believe most of those breeds emerged in the 1800s and looked much more moderate back then#answered#anonymous
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Hey, sorry to be a bother, but I was Tinkaqueer and I got termed, could you please help me find ppl in the proship community again? You're a huge voice here and I figured I'd try and ask for help
It's ruthless out there 😭 good luck rebuilding!
#i tend to forget this account is moderately popular lmfao#folks are like 'oh my god you run that really cool big blog' and im just here in a wrinkled tshirt with a bagel like '...no'#proshippers against censorship#jackal barks#proship please interact#proshippers please interact#proship positivity#proship#proshipper safe#proshipping#proshipper#anti anti#ask#asks#pro stance
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I don't know what I love more, the fact that as rook you can make a statement in NO uncertain terms that you are NOT responsible one way or the other for the theological implications of the shit you're discovering in the 'regrets of the dread wolf' memories. not my jurisdiction. quite simply none of my business. not my chantry circus not my chantry monkeys. irrelevant to the matter at hand here we'll kill that god if we get to him he can get in line. or if the best thing about it is seeing the lone little 'lucanis approves' that pops up right after choosing it. corvid with a knife about to commit deicide keeping it real and sensibly, pragmatically, wilfully agnostic with me here in this magical lighthouse today
#we do not see it. we cannot read all of a sudden.#rye having war flashbacks to watcher conferences and firmly going 'we are *not* getting derailed by the metaphysics here folks'#rare stern moderator/dad hat moment from ingellvar lol. he's Seen Some Shit in his time (debates that raged over the multiple#and not always concurrent life times of the participants involved. ain't no academic rivalry like watcher academic rivalry#because watcher academic rivalry doesn't stop even when everyone involved is dead. and the rest of us have to live with it)#I. do not think the way I'm getting this quest is how it's meant to be experienced so I'm a bit at a loss as to how to pace it out#I've been an annoying little completionist so I have ALL the statues and could just marathon it out#but that does not feel like the best way for the story and upcoming reveals to work. hm. how to do this#I'm supposed to go fail to save weisshaupt right around now I can't be having study group with all of you rn as much of a delight as it is#rye is nominally an andrastian as mainstream nevarrans generally are but as I gather is the case with many of the watchers#what he *actually* believes in is the grand necropolis itself haha#(and the philosophy of history memory death and relationship (as well as responsibility) between the past and the present#and indeed the future that it represents. we have a duty. to what has been to what is and to what will come after us. good shit)#the nevarran/mortalitasi element just makes their lack of care or respect for chantry orthodoxy *mwha* that extra bit special#the nevarran lack of concern bordering on quiet condescending disdain for official chantry doctrine and policy my beloved#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard spoilers#dragon age spoilers#poor harding really is living through the most relentless 'if this is the maker testing my faith he sure be testing me' gauntlet of all tim#good news: god might be real! bad news: god might not even be a real thing but more like a magical accident or vibration or something#honestly tho. if we could get full lovecraftian incomprehensible to human conception the maker -- He is a particle and a wave style --#that's the only way I'd be cool with him or them actually answering the question of his existence. that'd be kind of sick#'yes. but no. but maybe. depends on how you define god. and exist. and he. and does.' *ingellvar sets of the METAPHYSICS!! klaxon#that's a time out folks good game but easy on the jargon and navel-gazing definition of terms next round#rye and lucanis have some slightly differing views about at what exact stage of a problem murder becomes a valid solution#('well you just kill them and then I'm the one who has to deal with the next much longer part')#but they're surprisingly kind of vibing on a lot of other stuff lol. good for them <3#oc: Ellaryen Ingellvar
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GRAAAHHH SORRY THIS IS SUDDEN BUT OH MY GOD I FINALLY FOUND YOU. IM THE BENREY THAT RAN UP TO YOUR BOOTH AR AMW THIS YEAR AND MY FRIEND BOUGHT ME LIKE ALMOST ALL YOUR VALVE STUFF, I LITERALLY CRIED WHEN I GOT BACK TO THEIR ROOM CAUSE LIKE DUDE. THAT MEANT EVERYTHING FOR ME, I WAS GENUINELY SO SO SO HAPPY TO SEE THE FANDOM IS STILL ALIVE AND IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR FANS IN THE WILD FOR YEARS. THE EXPERIENCE WAS ENLIGHTENING TO SAY THE LEAST AND IM SO SO JOYOUS ABOUT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH !1!11! :•3
:D !!!! HI!!! I REMEMBER YOU!!! THANK YOU FOR STOPPING BY, I'M SO HAPPY IT WAS MEMORABLE FOR YOU!!
people who are so enthusiastic about the things i make and the fandoms i rep at my booth are THE #1 coolest part of the experience 🥺 i feel like convention artist alleys these days are mostly filled with the same 4 popular anime/mobile games and it's really hard to find less popular anime, let alone things like video games and webseries. you would not believe how many comments I got that people never see things like Team Fortress 2 or Portal in AAs, let alone stuff like Infinity Train or HLVRAI 😭 the people who recognize them are always SO excited and then I'M excited and we are BOTH excited and nerding out together. it's fantastic!!!
the hlvrai fandom is definitely still going strong! i still see a lot of fanart and community posts and my sales on my few hlvrai things on my etsy have Not slowed down lmao. i'm sure if covid didn't happen there would have been so many benry cosplayers in 2020. we were ROBBED </3 i've seen You and one benry cosplayer at ACEN last year and that was IT </3 </3 </3
#ask#agoraphobiclemons#at anime central i had an admin for one of the radiotvsolutions folks stop by my booth. they were also very excited#to see my art prints i had of the science team!! they were also very nice :3 and a neopets fan. big W#hlvrai is one of those fandoms where you might not meet them super often but when you do they're the coolest people#anyway hearing from people who saw me at cons is so so so fun#im booked for the same con next year already and fingers crossed i can get into acen again#anyway. fellow artists. bring some merch for things that aren't the biggest thing in the world#if everyone's selling genshit midpact you have to split the attention of every attendee who plays it#if you're the only booth selling something thats only moderately popular though. you'll get all that attention to yourself#and everyone that recognizes it will be really really excited about it. and then its not a Transaction its an Interaction and its FUN#i am saying this as somebody who never watches popular anime or plays gacha games pleeeeeeease diversify your catalogues dhjbdsfbhj#i started attending cons in 2016 and the 2016 ~ 2019 cons were completely different from cons in 2022 ~ 2024#and 'oh well they're Anime Cons ofc they have an emphasis on anime' isnt even an excuse because before 2020 it wasnt like that#esp here in chicago where we have like. three pop culture cons total. and they all have Anime in the name. doesnt stop anybody#or at least it didnt used to#anyway i am mentally pinning this ask in my brain corkboard and i will look at it forever <3 fandom is beautiful#THANK YOU FOR THE MESSAGE !!!! <3
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Thanks to everyone who shared their kind words! To those who came into DMs to check in and to those who weighted in with their thoughts on what happened 🤲
I have wonderful people around me, wonderful friends that have been making such unecessary drama way easier to handle; I'm fine and will resume normal posting soon 👀
#There's still a lot of good in this community - it's good to see 🧡#I wish they'd stop using Queer People and Inclusivity as the reason behind all this#Folks aren't slow - You're just mad I'm not refiting my clothes for a certain body mods#that is my right - just like any other moders - regardless of the reasons#I've already explained myself as to why it is that way#and I've already explained that the existence of my flat chest doesn't have anything to do with the body mod#this is not a rival mod - this is an option for people#and these will be my final words on the subject! 🙏#blah blah
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So lemme tell you a secret
Most people you meet in a day are at least a little conflict averse. Most people do not want to make a scene
People who know this and are not averse to making a scene can become fucking unstoppable, and many of them use this power for evil
You can stop them in their goddamn tracks about 55% of the time by doing your best impression of someone who is not conflict averse
If someone comes up to you and you have any feeling they wanna give you a bad time, do not greet them quietly
Greet them loudly, as loudly as they greet you if not a little louder
This tells them they can’t make you back down or give in on the threat of drawing attention; a good chunk of the time, they will not want attention themselves if you’re the one drawing it
You don’t need to be confrontational or aggressive; just turn, greet them as normal, and up the volume just enough to show you’re not hiding or scared of loud noises
(This does not need to be true so long as you fake it well)
Note: this is not a guarantee, but honestly if they were gonna give you a hard time and draw attention they were probably gonna do that anyway
Stay cool, stay polite, and don’t let them intimidate you into whispering to avoid creating a scene. If they wanna make a scene, let them play the villain
#social hacks#conflict avoidance#it solves so much if you just. don’t whisper#makes you seem much more powerful than you might be#ymmv#as always#but it works for me real good#the kind of person who starts an interaction thinking they can step on you tend to shut right up if you aren’t quiet#it’s like fake confidence#i’m like moderate conflict averse (never trouble for the service folks) but all my friends are SUPER conflict averse#so i have been dragooned into it#and yeah this saves a lot of time#just keep in your heart that if they say ‘or what’ or ‘what’ll you do about it’#the correct answer is a blank look like they’re fucking insane and a gentle ‘judge you along with everyone else in this room’#even if they misbehave 10/10 you are automatically the adult
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I think a common trend I've noticed on Twitch is that the less a person streams, the worse their chat is.
Consistent streams (or at least, semi-regular streams) means there's more consistent mods and moderation, chatters who aren't super familiar with Twitch etiquette have more opportunities to learn what's acceptable and what isn't, and a better sense of community is created amongst chatters (and hopefully as a result, chat stops being dominated by thousands of individuals screaming at the top of their lungs into the void).
#i talk#streamer talk#All this to say I'm not super Thrilled about one of the people on the ''new person'' list solely because I can't stand their community#Streamer himself is fine his community / chatters are just unbearable#I just opened up his stream since it's been a while and I wanted to see if it's still as bad#And it's actually worse! So that's great (Sarcasm)#I'm real strict about moderation and etiquette on Twitch because it's always a matter of Common Sense and Decency#and like yeah we've all had our ''learning period'' when we first start using Twitch#But I'm always just Flabbergasted when a streamer has no mods or only 1 mod when they have thousands or tens of thousands of people watchin#It's a huge reason why I only watch a handful of people and have stopped watching some folks whose content I used to enjoy#If I can't enjoy the chat then it doesn't matter how much I like the streamer – I just won't watch#¯\_(ツ)_/¯#Anyways that's my petty complaint for the day. I'm frustrated about tech stuff rn so I'm a bit more irritable than usual#But I'm always a bit irritable about this topic anyways so whatever
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Hi folks! It seems like people are discovering that there are people online who write some WEIRD! 👎 stuff for Nevermoor. Some tips and tricks for dealing with that:
Don't engage. Don't read the fics. Don't even comment to say how much you hate it.
Don't spread it around. It's gross as hell, I know! But being like "ew, guys, I found this gross fic" just means you're causing more people to seek out said gross fic, and that's just not great. If you don't want to see it, no one else wants to either.
If you can: block, mute, or filter. I don't really use any fanfic sites to know if these functionalities exist, but I'm sure people online have found ways. Edit: here's a way to do it on Ao3.
TL;DR: Ignore, Ignore, Ignore. 👍
(PS: Same thing goes for when people send weird inappropriate anon messages. Just delete them from your inbox and don't subject others to them.)
This is unfortunately something that's been present for years in the fandom, on both Ao3 and Wattpad. This is also why I essentially don't read Nevermoor fics unless they're for Mogtober, and even then I'm cautious. I have seen some weird stuff written about my favorite characters that I wish I could pluck from my brain and set on fire, or worse! But when I stumble across that stuff, I just quickly close the tab and pivot to something else to get my mind off of it.
We should not entertain these types of people in a fandom full of minors about a middle grade series, so: just don't engage with them, ignore them, filter them out, and maybe even drown them out with some fics of your own.
#good talk 👍#nevermoor#nevermoor fandom#nevermoor fanfic#why oh why does this fandom attract the occasional weirdo.#I'd be using stronger language when talking abt these types of folks but i'd prob get banned.#as an adult in this fandom I feel I have a responsibility to keep folks safe from weirdos 👍 i've banned folks on discord + i'd do it again#years ago there was a weird af fic on ao3 that I noticed folks were kudos'ing and I had to be like. hey guys pls don't do that 😭#unfortunately ao3 moderation and rules are NONEXISTENT!!! so there's nothing ppl can do except the stuff above :/#and I wouldn't know abt wattpad bc I went on there once to see what mogtober stuff ppl wrote and was horrified and noped out of there 😬#anyways. all the more reason to participate in mogtober. so everyone's writing stuff in order to bury the gross stuff. creation for a cause#(and bc mogtober is fun and everyone should participate. lol)#soz for the psa folks but I deemed it necessary 🤷 feel free to enjoy the art I just posted as well#just been on the internet toooo long and don't like the thought or reality of young folks being exposed in any way to this kind of stuff. 😕#couldn't figure out where to fit this emoji in so here: 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢. thats me and my constant feeling whenever this stuff pops up again. 😑
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Moder.
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Jötunn Moder says to come and visit him in his forest! Nothing bad will happen!!!!!
#digital art#cryptid#horror#horror films#folk horror#horror movies#the ritual#eldritch#eldritch horror#lovecraftian#monster#moder#norse mythology#loki
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Trans People are an oppressed group of people who are getting legislated "out of existence". They are being legislated out of sports. They are being legislated out of bathrooms. There is legislation denying them gender affirming care. They are still being discriminated against for employment. They are still being discriminated against for housing. The Rightwing and Reactionaries want to control how Trans People dress and present (what do you think the Drag Bans were about). So why are we still having conversations that Trans People do not exist. If they do not exist, why is the Rightwing so viciously cracking down on them? We have seen Trans People of every race, ethnicity, sex, etc. These people exist. And they are in danger. The Rightwing is going on a full war to erase/eradicate Trans People. The truth is Trans People will always exist (just like Gay People will always exist), but they are being actively oppressed and harmed. This wave of anti-trans legislation and anti-trans rhetoric will lead to suppression of their identity ("being closeted"), will lead to Trans People committing Suicide, will lead to Trans People & Allies being imprisoned, and will lead to Hate Crimes. Whether Anarchist, Communist, Socialist, Social Democrat, Moderates, Liberals, etc. You need to be advocating for and protecting Trans People.
#Anarchist#Communist#Social Democrat#Socialist#Moderate#Liberal#Trans People#Trans Folks#Transgender#Trans Rights
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Tumblr just nuked one of my nonbinary moots out of nowhere, but yeah sure okay, “queerest site on the internet.” 🙄
#staff bring back rydenxo#& while you’re at it bring back all the other trans folks blogs you unfairly banned while literall stolen content blogs roam free#how many of my trans siblings must suffer your unfair moderation practices?#transphobia 100% is what this is#mine#op
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I started to write this as a reply to @vex-verlain but realized it should be it's own post.
To be clear, this is about @end-otw-racism and why I support this movement (even if I don't agree with all their proposals).
I am profoundly anti-censorship. It has been one of my biggest personal issues my entire adult life. I will absolutely defend the speech rights even of people I think are utterly reprehensible, even the rights of people who want me and my family dead. I think their speech has a right to exist, full stop.
But.
Being anti-censorship in no way means being anti-moderation. I often see people who are pro-ship, anti-anti, or "too old to use a name for telling yall you're clowning" say that AO3 is supposed to be a safe space for WRITERS, not READERS, and that to me is one of the big ways that the current harassment and moderation policies are badly failing writers of color. There's no way to 100% protect all writers, period, on AO3, and to me it seems like a no-brainer that if the goal is "protect all speech, avoid all censorship, minimize harm to real people," the only way to accomplish all those goals it to have a really robust, well-moderated system that prioritizes reducing harassment - ALL harassment - without looking the other way on certain topics just because they're harder and thornier to sort through. A way to section the groups that are oil and water away from each other, through blocking, powerful filters, comment options, etc (some strategies we do have now, btw! They HAVE been adding functionality in this direction, but it's clearly not enough.)
Currently, protecting people who write bigoted shit is causing active harm to fans of color. We see the impacts of this harm constantly; I personally have seen many, many Chinese and Chinese diaspora fans driven out of white danmei fandom circles for all sorts of reasons, and if yall are in fandoms that often have bipoc in them I'm sure you've seen the same (and if you are in a fandom that doesn't have many bipoc it might be wise to take a moment and consider why it doesn't.)
I just really want more people to take a step back and ask themselves why they think an anti-censorship position necessitates an anti-moderation stance, and also why they think being pro-moderation is the same as being pro-censorship.
I defend the rights of bigoted shit to exist.
What I don't defend is the right of the people who create that stuff to weaponize it against vulnerable people.
Regarding AO3, I personally support a solution that involves some way of sectioning off the bigoted shit. I'm not sure exactly how that would work but I think some kind of major archive warning is a solid start. Also maybe a way of flagging authors who are frequent offenders. And to be clear...it's not my job or responsibility to know exactly how to accomplish this. I'm no expert. That's why I'm supporting a movement that explicitly says AO3/OTW SHOULD HIRE AN EXPERT. And I know it would be expensive...and I know many, many of us would donate to a funds drive to raise the money to cover that expense.
I've seen too many friends get profoundly hurt, and I'm so tired of (overwhelmingly white) fandom circles pearl clutching over this not being an issue, that the real problem is that this will lead to censorship of (checks notes) Nazi shit, spitefic, and the other dregs of fanfiction (which, again, has a right to exist! But God why are so many of y'all favoring IT over ALL THE FIC THAT WILL NOW NEVER EXIST BECAUSE BIPOC GET BULLIED OUT OF WRITING IT.)
It's clearly an issue.
And we have to speak up and demand better or it will continue to be an issue.
Please, please listen to the bipoc who've managed to not be driven out of fandom and understand that *things need to change,* which means, for us white folks:
1. A lot of listening to the people who've been harmed
2. Using our voices to amplify theirs
3. Standing up to bigotry we see in our fandom communities
4. Shutting up when they ask us to shut up
5. Checking our own behavior and doing our best not to be part of the problem, and, if and when we go awry, owning it with maturity and apologizing and doing our best to make amends and not repeat our mistakes
...and probably more but those are the first things to come to mind.
Please stop siding with people who've decided they are entitled to spew vile shit, stop prioritizing their writerly protection over the safety of equally valid writers who also deserve protection and are being targeted and hurt. All you do by siding with the assholes is amplify their voices while silencing bipoc and create a space that protects bigots. Is that REALLY the hill you want to fight on?
None of us know it all. We can all learn to do better. I'm personally here to learn, and listen, and improve.
And I'm here to shout from the rooftops that we can be anti-censorship and pro-moderation.
I am, and you should be too.
#unforth rambles#end racism in the otw#end otw racism#hi folks this white jew supports you#id like more tools for moderation too cause ive gotten a little antisemitic shit over the years#but thats not in the post cause this aint about me and its not really about judaism#and if we protect bipoc jews will have more protections too#there are so many reasons to support this guys#just cause yall cant imagine what better would look like doesnt mean better doesnt exist#demand better and expect better and be part of trying to make things better#i will never stop supporting all authors and right now doing that means protecting some of the most vulnerable#from some of the most heinous#i truly think we can develop better protections and maintain posting freedoms
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I’ve recently rewatched a movie called The Ritual(2017) based on the book writed by Adam Nevill and I must say that I truly loved this movie!
The acting, the settings, the feeling of being trapped in those woods without having a way out. I really loved all the details and I love how from a movie of 4 guys going on a hiking trip in the mountains after one of their best friends died, went to a true real life nightmare.
I first watched this movie when I was like in 7th grade and I was a scared lil kid back then and when I watched it for the first time I shit myself from how scared I was and I coudn’t watch more of the movie, I’ve watch only like half of it. And than this year I’ve decided to give it a try and man I really fell in love with it. I even rewached it three times already.
I like how there aren’t many jumpscares and just a little bit of gore but I was really interested in the nordic mythology and for me personally this movie is very important.
I really loved the 4 main characters that ones being Luke(the main protagonist), Hutch, Dom and Phil. They are just some good ol’ university friends trying to connect again after so much time by going on a trip in the Sweden mountains to honour their dead friend Rob who was killed in a store by some robers.
Luke as I said is the main protagonist and he is the one who the movie is happening around him. He was the one who was with Rob when he was killed and he didn’t take action to save him or help him and now himself and the rest of the group blames him for what happend to Rob.
Everyone blames him exept for Hutch(the second main character) who is the leader of the group and the most closest to Luke. He is the only one who don’t blames Luke and the only one who still considers Luke his friend.
Dom is like the crybaby drama queen of the group. He is always the one with the big mounth and complains alot. He is like that one annoying friend but you still care about him beacuse you know him how he is. Dom is the one who blames Luke for what happend and that grows the tension between the group.
Phill is the character with the less characterization not having a clear personality and most of the movie being in the background. Not a big fan of this character beacuse of the lack of personality he has and beacuse he had so much potential to have a good role in the group instead of just being there.
I won’t get too much into the details since I want to create separate posts for my review or discussing about this movie since this might be my new hyperfixation for a while 🤷♂️
I’ll just talk more about it and maybe starting doing some fanarts of it since I wanted to do that since my first rewatched of it.
I wanna buy the book as well to read it beacuse now I wanna consume as much as I can from this series, movies, books, youtube videos, theories, fanarts, fanfics ANYTHING.
I know not many people are interested in this movie anymore but I’ll still create these posts maybe, maybe someone who still likes this movie in 2023 will discover my blog :,)
So that’s it for now, I’ll continue posting stuff about the ritual for a while since I have this hyperfixation for two weeks already and it doesn’t wanna stop.
For now have these gifs I created from the movie they might contain spoilers. Sorry for the bad quitality I’ve made them on my phone 💀
I have more gifs which I wanna post but Tumblr doesn’t allow me to have more than 10 in one post so for the rest of the gifs I’ll just post will be these ones I have of my most favorite character from this movie
✨HUTCH✨
He is such a goof ball and a sweetheart! Plus I really love his actor Rob James Collier
#the ritual#the ritual 2017#the ritual movie#the ritual monster#the ritual moder#the ritual netflix#netflix#adam nevill#horror#book#movie#luke the ritual#hutch the ritual#hutch#dom the ritual#phil the ritual#not art this time folks#my new hyperfixation#movie gifs#gifs#my love for hutch and this movie is too much aghhhhhhh sfshsgsbsjzyzvnakauakal#i’ll talk more about this movie since I have alot to talk about#rob james collier#rafe spall#nordic mythology#forest#halloween#dissusing#love this movie
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Hey captain! What’s your take on fellswap and swapfell if you have one?
i. don't know actually?
what is the distinction between swapfell and fellswap? why is one of them purple but only sometimes and also red but only sometimes? where did the purple come from???
i know i've seen both before. it seems like they get redesigned a lot, i don't know if i've seen a canon (fanon-canon? canon-fanon?) design for either, and i'm not totally sure what makes them different.
i mean the art. slaps? it looks like it slaps. i don't have a clue what's going on here, but i'll act like i do!
(ig that means i don't really have a take. i like the underfell au enough so seeing a variety of swapped version of it is chill, i kind of get the appeal. glad people are having fun.)
#ney's chatter (ask answers)#captain talks about undertale#i'm so sorry my takes are so bland i just have such moderate opinions#like i don't have particularly strong feelings about most of this stuff beyond 'yo that looks cool as hell'#oh also there's apparently a gold one??? or is that one the red one again#undertale folks how did you keep up with all these#i just sit next to plain ol gaster and squint like i have worse vision than him ig#not that you can tell lol#seeing all these aus and the branches of said aus makes me feel old 😔
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