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Here is a continuation of the family tree collaboration project with @konstantynowitz. Originally, my main focus was on the Rosier family, but before we get into that side of the tree, I'm going to introduce you to earlier generations of the Volants. I have been connected to the French branch of the Lestrange family through a Volant ancestor, and this might be a long shot, but just bear with me. Benouét Volant was born in 1794 as the nephew of Jodelle Lestrange (née Volant) who married Floxel Lestrange. In the year 1782, Jodelle had one daughter with her husband: Quintilla Lestrange, the mother of Nozéa Lestrange. Benouét was taken in by his aunt and uncle as a child when his parents died of a dragon pox outbreak. He was raised by Jodelle and Floxel, growing up alongside Quintilla as if she were his elder sister. Benouét later named his son Floxel Volant (I) in honor of his uncle.
For the time being, I do not have a name for Benouét's spouse, but I suspect that I'll make her a close relative of Floxel maybe through his mother Luminosa. Floxel Volant's mother may be a descendant from the Trouche family as I'm sure Benouét must've interacted with his uncle's extended family growing up, perhaps developing a close relationship with a potential bride through the Trouches.
I believe that Jodelle would have arranged for Benouét to marry a relative of her husband so that he could stay closely connected with the family. Floxel and Jodelle cared for Benouét as if he were their own child, so I think they thought that marrying him off to a Trouche was almost like an affectionate way of officially recognizing their nephew as an adoptive son of sorts.
Floxel Volant (I) was born in 1826 to Benouét Volant and his wife, his father was thirty-two at the time of his birth. Floxel remained a bachelor for the majority of his adulthood, enjoying the luxuries and privileges of his family's wealth. He was quite the lady-killer in his youth, so if he did have any children they'd be unacknowledged bastards that he never involved himself with, even if he was aware of their existence. Within the year 1870, at the age of forty-four, an unmarried Floxel impregnated his young mistress at the time, but the only difference between his current mistress and his mistresses of the past was that she also came from an influential French pure-blood family. Because of this, Floxel would be forced to marry his mistress who would later give birth to their only son Étienne Volant.
Something that needs to be acknowledged: I cannot take credit for this next half of the tree, as I had the help of @lazyreinelle when coming up with the backgrounds and names of the characters about to be mentioned. Of course, I've made a few little tweaks of my own when it comes to birth dates and certain aspects of their backstories, but really it is all thanks to the creative mind of @lazyreinelle that I was able to fill in the blanks of the tree.
Étienne Volant was born in 1870 and married Clotilde de Trefle-Picques, a seemingly mild-mannered girl, yet popular because of her family. She is betrothed off to Étienne during her penultimate year at Beauxbatons. Despite being ten years her senior, Étienne often acted like a man-child and was incredibly irresponsible. So, when it came to raising children, he would mostly never be around, goofing around in bars or sleeping with any veela he met. Clotilde had to raise her children: an elder daughter Eglantine (b. 1904), and two younger twin sons Floxel (II) and Claude (b. 1906), all by herself naturally instilling them with rather harsh views of blood purity.
In spite of his absence, Étienne was closest to his daughter Eglantine, who inherited his free-spirit, although it was much more reigned in than her father's was. Even so, she was frequently challenging authority and diving headfirst into escapades that left her mother exasperated. Clotilde always cursed her husband for passing on such a wild spirit to Eglantine, wishing instead that their daughter possessed a more measured temperament that would ease her worries and keep her out of trouble. Eglantine did not want to follow the expected societal norms for young witches of the time, nor did she wish to conform to the wishes and expectations of a future spouse, believing that her personal freedoms should be valued if she were to find herself married one day. Eglantine Volant harbored a fondness for her father, as he was the only one who could ever understand her. He never saw her as being unreasonable when voicing her standards for a hypothetical husband. Clotilde always believed that her daughter was being ridiculous when forming these ideas of a marriage of compromise, dismissing them as fanciful daydreams. Whenever Étienne was around he'd spoil his little daughter with small gifts and let her skip piano lessons or her early homeschooling to spend time "adventuring" with him on the estate's property. She grew up knowing that her father was not a dependable man, but that did not make him a bad parent to his children, at least during the times he occasionally visited them.
The Volants were deeply in debt because of Étienne's tendencies to gamble away a lot of his inheritance at the bars he frequented at. Clotilde, who came from a family who specialized in concealment charms, was able to hide the decline in the Volant's wealth by casting mirages that could make a simple lump of coal appear to be a bar of gold or some type of jewel. These charms especially helped in regard to paying off Étienne's debts, often conning the people he owed money to with his wife's illusions. Although, after a while, the charm of their fabricated wealth began to wear off and those who Étienne paid his debts to with these charmed objects would find out that they were tricked once the enchantments wore off.
As a result, one night when Étienne was drunk at a bar, he was confronted by one of the men he conned. Étienne was challenged in a magical duel by the man, but ultimately lost and was killed. This is why Clotilde was overjoyed when Eglantine got a proposal from the Rosier family, especially Laurent Rosier. The Rosiers, having already established themselves long back in France, were practically akin to wizarding nobility, matching the Blacks. Eglantine's marriage ensured that the Volants would not go bankrupt and reinstated stability within the family.
Featured at the top, is a tree which connects the Rosier family to the French branch of the Lestrange family. As I mentioned in my first post for the tree, Laurent Rosier is the great-great-nephew of Minette Rosier, making him third cousins with Leta Lestrange and her younger half-brother Corvus V. In addition to this, Laurent's father was first cousins with Fèlicule Lestrange (née Rosier), also known as F. Lestrange, the grandmother of Radolphus Lestrange II.
To give you guys a little bit more background of Clotilde Volant (née de Trefle-Picques), she was born to Adélard Duc de Trefle-Picques, a descendant of Vincent Duc de Trefle-Picques, a French nobleman and wizard active around the time of the French Revolution. Her mother was originally introduced as Faustine Escoffier-Floquet, but I changed my mind and renamed her as Touènette de Trefle-Picques (née Beaufort). There is not much I have to tell you about them right now, but soon I will post another update on this tree and hopefully by that time I'll have a little more to share on them. As for their grandsons, Eglantine's younger brothers that were created by @lazyreinelle: Floxel II and Claude Volant, I do have a bit more to share about them.
Floxel Volant II married Pascaline Volant (née Perrott), a classmate of his elder sister during her years at Beauxbatons. Floxel had a few children with Pascaline, namely their daughter Ghislaine Volant. There are a few more which I will be sharing in the near future, but right now Ghislaine is the only one who will be mentioned at the moment since the other children have more expanded and complex trees in regard to their future descendants.
Before Floxel's marriage to Pascaline, Clotilde started to be a lot more harsh with him, scrutinizing every move of his, and forcibly making him meet potential brides for him yet not allowing him to choose. The Volant heir longed to be free like his twin, Claude without any worry in the world, without someone constantly breathing down your neck. Being the older twin by five minutes was perhaps the only thing Floxel could uphold Claude over. The younger had all the other luxuries to bed, flirt with any one he liked, regardless of blood-status. As the second son, Claude was the spare and therefore didn't have as much responsibility to the family. Claude could often cross the line, becoming even worse than his father Étienne.
Claude Volant was notorious for philandering about, oftentimes bedding attractive veela ballerinas. He would later be disowned by his family for impregnating his veela mistress, leading to a bitter estrangement that would cause him to lose contact with his elder sister and twin brother.
Well, that's it for now! The next post I make will probably be more focused on the Rosier-Volant descendants, and maybe I'll give a little more insight on the Rosier family itself, especially Laurent and Vinda Rosier's parents.
#family trees#collaboration project#druella rosier#eglantine rosier#eglantine volant#druella black#evan rosier#felix rosier#etienne rosier#étienne volant#claude volant#floxel volant ii#floxel volant i#minette rosier ii#minette rosier i#minette lestrange#floxel lestrange#jodelle volant#pascaline perrott#clotilde volant#clotilde de Trefle-Picques#laurent rosier#quintilla lestrange#lestrange family#fèlicule rosier
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How would Vinda and Queenie had kids together? Just curious! And how would that work according to the FBAWTFT timeline?
Adoption? Surrogacy? Idk. I don’t know how things work in the magical world lol but from what I know I don’t think there is such a thing as w|w pregnancies. There could be! But personally I feel like that’s a little too… outlandish? Of course everyone has different viewpoints on how these things work but for me I feel like adoption or surrogacy is the best option.
It could maybe be like a gestational surrogacy where either Vinda or Queenie transfers a fertilized embryo to the other (I think it’d be Queenie since I view her as being more maternal and likely would want to carry the baby). This would therefore make Vinda the biological mother, but as for the identity of the father… well I guess I could just leave that up to you to figure out for yourself. Could it be Grindelwald? Sure! As a reward for Vinda’s services as his most loyal acolyte he could’ve given her a baby. But then again the father could be anyone.
As for the timeline, I’ve made it so that Vinda would’ve had to successfully fertilized and transferred their embryo into Queenie within the year 1945, so that the baby would be born in 1946. This all happens after Grindelwald’s imprisonment so Queenie would’ve been pregnant while Vinda was put on trial alongside the rest of the acolytes. If we are going for the whole Grindelwald being the father thing, then it’s still possible because the ‘conception’ could’ve taken place in 1945 before he was imprisoned.
Queenie and Vinda’s second baby would later be born in the year 1948 and they probably would’ve gone through the same process as they did with their firstborn. Obviously if we wanted Grindelwald to be the father that would no longer be a possibility since he’s imprisoned, but then again there’s other fish in the sea 😅
I don’t know about the whole genetics thing works since if Queenie were the carrier of Vinda’s egg then they wouldn’t technically be her biological kids, but tbh I don’t really care. For creativity’s sake we’re gonna let at least one of their babies inherit Queenie’s legilimency. Maybe while they were in the womb they just… developed the ability? But that’s a long-shot.
If you’re also curious about Minette Rosier (II), she doesn’t have a second parent that’s named as of now. She could be used as a Rosegold lovechild but at this moment that remains undecided. Minette was born in the mid to late 1920s, so she’d be a bit older than her ‘half-siblings’ and therefore might not fit the timeline in order to be Queenie’s daughter. Of course, this can all be changed and I could give her a later date of birth! Or I could even take a risk and say that once Queenie joined Grindelwald’s Alliance (circa 1927) she could’ve immediately gotten into a relationship with Vinda and had Minette the following year. I don’t know if I’d actually do that, but I’m not opposed to it either.
Sorry for the long response! Thanks for the ask!
#druella rosier#riddle era#druella black#hogwarts 1940s#etienne rosier#celease rosier#minette rosier ii#vinda x queenie child#vinda rosier x queenie goldstein#vinda rosier#queenie goldstein#hogwarts 1950s (?)#gellert grindelwald#rosegold child#rosegold#rosier cousins#rosier family#asks
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The Lestrange Family Tree
In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, the subject of the Lestrange Family Tree is somewhat explained. The Lestrange family tree starts with a man named Radolphus Lestrange. Radolphus was minister for magic from 1835 until 1845 when he stepped down due to health reasons. It is unknown if Corvus Lestrange I was Radolphus’s son, but Corvus married a woman named Heloise Beaufort. The couple then had a son, Corvus Ⅱ. Corvus II married Minette Rosier and they had three children, someone with the first initial M(their full name is not yet known), Josette, and Corvus III. Corvus the third married his cousin, Eglantine Lestrange and they had a son. Can you guess his name? It was Corvus Ⅳ.
This is where The Crimes of Grindelwald comes in. Leta Lestrange father was Corvus Ⅳ. Corvus Ⅳ gave birth to Leta and Corvus Ⅴ. However, since both of them are dead, that branch on the family tree died with them. So how does Bellatrix Lestrange exist? Many people believe that Leta’s supposed brother Yusuf could have been a direct relative of Bellatrix, but he was born before Corvus Ⅳ imperiused Laurena and had Leta and Corvus Ⅴ. Therefore, Yusuf’s father was not Corvus Lestrange IV, it was Mustafa Kama, making him a Kama, not a Lestrange.
However, there is still a way for Bellatrix Lestrange to be a member of the Black family. If you remember, far back in the beginning, it is unsure whether or not Radolphus Lestrange is Corvus I’s father or how many children he had, so it’s likely that he had more than one child and one of his children began a branch on the tree that led to a man that went to Hogwarts at the same time as Tom Riddle. His first name is unknown, but he’s referred to as Lestrange and he was one of Voldemort’s first death eaters. It is thought that this Lestrange is the father of Rabastan and Rodolphus Lestrange. Rodolphus goes on to marry Bellatrix Black and they never had any children together. However, and spoiler alert for the cursed child ahead, in The Cursed Child, it is revealed that the main antagonist, Delphini is the child of Bellatrix and Lord Voldemort. And Since Delphini dies in The Cursed Child, unless Rodolphus remarried after he got out of Azkaban, that branch of the Lestrange family tree is dead.
#crimes of grindelwald#credence barebone#leta lestrange#bellatrix lestrange#rabastan lestrange#lestrange family#bellatrix black lestrange#fantastic beasts and where to find them#theories#theory#family tree#hp#harry potter
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Otra vez el anon de la sugerencia. Quisiera formar parte de alguna familia de los sagrados 28, pero en la petición no especifican casi nada concreto, ni el total de miembros que espera tener el linaje (no puedo estar seguro de con cuántos usuarios me estaré involucrando). Hacer un registro de identidad con un “Apellido (0/5)” podría ayudar a aclarar más la situación, o solicitar descripción en la petición con los miembros directos de la familia, estilo “Hijo/a - XX años - Ocupación”.
Las familias de los Sagrados 28 disponibles son las siguientes:
Abbott, completamente libre para decidir la cantidad de descendientes.
Avery, con Freya Greengrass descendiente por su parte materna, libre para que otro usuario decida la cantidad de descendientes (tomando en cuenta a la madre de Freya).
Bulstrode, completamente libre para decidir la cantidad de descendientes.
Burke, con Melpomene a la cabeza, no se aceptan más descendientes (excepto por el lado materno, que está reservado para sus hijos).
Carrow, con Alecto a la cabeza, que quiere ampliar su familia, pero se debe hablar con ella con antelación.
Crouch, con Barty Crouch Sr. y Jr. a la cabeza, y solo admitiendo descendientes por su parte materna, entre ellos Lucifer Nott.
Fawley, con Nergal Rowle descendiente por su parte materna, y libre para que otro usuario decida la cantidad de descendientes (tomando en cuenta a la madre de Nergal).
Greengrass, con Freya a la cabeza. Esta familia es sangre pura y parte de los Sagrados 28. En caso de desear formar parte de esta familia, se debe hablar con Freya para ver qué rama familiar sería.
MacMillan, con Hékate a la cabeza. Se aceptan otros miembros familiares siempre que se hable con ella.
Nott, con Lucifer a la cabeza. No se aceptan más miembros familiares.
Parkinson, completamente libre para decidir la cantidad de descendientes.
Rosier, con Amandine a la cabeza. Se aceptan miembros de la rama familiar descendiente de Félix Rosier. El matrimonio Rosier concibió a cuatro hijos: Minette, Druella, Félix y Evan. Evan y Vinda tienen tres hijos: Alain (padre de Amandine y sus hermanas en búsqueda), Amance y Evan II. Druella, casada con Cygnus Black, han dado tres hijas (Bellatrix, Andrómeda y Narcissa).
Rowle, con Nergal a la cabeza, quien acepta descendientes pues tiene una cantidad indeterminada de hermanos menores, habiendo nacido el menor de ellos 6 años después que Nergal. Se aceptan hijos, primos, sobrinos, y más a hablar. También está Morgan, quien tiene el apellido por descendencia materna.
Selwyn, con Morgan a la cabeza, quien acepta descendientes de otras ramas familiares.
Shafiq, completamente libre para decidir la cantidad de descendientes.
Travers, completamente libre para decidir la cantidad de descendientes.
Entiendo que es más organizado tenerlo definido con un registro, por lo que voy a tomarlo en cuenta para crearlo pronto, pero por ahora, la mayoría de usuarios no ha decidido aún la cantidad de descendientes que tiene su familia. Si quieres tomar una que ya tenga usuarios registrados, es necesario hablar con ellos antes para aprobarse.
Sin embargo, para que te organices mejor, tienes también los libres (Abbott, Bulstrode, Shafiq y Travers).
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Céléase Rosier - Headcanons Pt.1
Céléase Rosier is my own OC I made to be the sister of Druella Black (née Rosier) and @konstantynowitz's Étienne Rosier.
Keep in mind this is just a brain dump so not everything typed is going to give the full picture, but it should at least give you guys an idea and better outlook on this oc.
Céléase Rosier was born in 1934 to Eglantine Volant and Laurent Rosier, the younger brother of Grindelwald's most loyal acolyte Vinda Rosier. She had two elder siblings: Étienne Rosier, the father of Evan and Felix; and Druella Rosier, who married Cygnus Black and with whom she had three daughters with: Bellatrix, Andromeda and Narcissa.
She grew up in the shadow of her sister Druella, the most desired of the two. Ella was already out in society by the time Céléase was fourteen, collecting suitors left and right, all of which were from noble pure-blood families of their own.
Despite being only two years younger than her sister, Céléase often found herself overlooked by wizards eager to win Druella's favor. As the suitors scrambled for Druella's hand, Céléase was frequently forgotten, even though her own introduction to society was approaching soon.
Eglantine was very protective of Céléase and had the tendency of treating her like a fragile little flower, refusing to accept that like the rest of her children, her youngest was also beginning to grow up. Her mother's insistence on keeping Céléase sheltered served as a kind of confinement for the youngest Rosier sibling.
Some could say that Céléase was Eglantine's favorite child, but others would say that Eglantine's constant smothering was more suffocating than nurturing. While Eglantine believed she was shielding Céléase from the harsh realities of the world, her overprotectiveness stifled her daughter’s independence.
The only taste of freedom she managed to get during her youth was through Étienne, who would usually be tasked by Eglantine to accompany his sister if she wished to go somewhere off the estate property; Céléase could only leave the manor when a chaperone was present.
Arm-in-arm they'd walk with one another, Étienne always being the one on the sidewalk nearest to the road just in case a carriage passed by. He wouldn't want his little sister being trampled by a Pegasus or have an allergic reaction to their feathers.
(because Céléase was indeed allergic and it would not be a pleasant sight for Étienne to see his sister breaking out in hives)
Eglantine would've killed her son if that were to have happened.
Anyways, compared to his mother, Étienne wasn't as overbearing. While Eglantine's protective nature often bordered on suffocating, Étienne understood the importance of allowing Céléase some freedom to explore. He balanced his instinct to safeguard her with the realization that his sister needed the space to grow and discover the world on her own terms.
This nuanced approach made their relationship more open and trusting; Céléase knew that she was able to depend on Étienne to provide support and exhibit respect in areas that their mother lacked when it came to her own independence.
If you've watched FBWTFT then you'd remember the jazz club disguised by that enchanted advertisement on the wall. Well, lets just say that when Céléase was a little older, maybe around the ages of sixteen or seventeen, her brother would take her to something like that.
Sometimes on Céléase's little excursions with Étienne, the siblings would visit hidden bars or clubs so that she could see a little bit more their world had to offer, rather than being stuck at home with Eglantine breathing down her neck.
By this time, Étienne was twenty-four and had already graduated from Hogwarts, dedicating himself to the early uprising of Voldemort as one of his Death Eaters. In spite of this, he still made time to look after his little sister.
Céléase always admired the jazz singers that would perform on stage in the late evenings when her brother would take her. She'd love to sing along to the music, especially to the ones her mother usually forbade her to listen to when in the house.
There was this one special singer that Céléase loved the most: Imelda, a half-goblin, half-elf who frequently sang at the club Étienne took her to (which he did with purpose since he knew that his sister loved Imelda and he'd always be looking at her schedule so that he knew when she was going to be on stage).
When Imelda started releasing her own albums, Étienne would purchase them for his sister without their mother's knowledge so that she could listen to them from the comfort of her own room on the nights when she couldn't go out.
One evening, Étienne took Céléase backstage before one of Imelda’s performances as a surprise and by the end of the night she found herself singing alongside her idol.
Let’s just say that this is when Céléase really began to break free from the golden cage she’d been living in for so long, having finally just seen a glimpse of a life she could only ever imagine in a fever dream.
Due to Grindelwald’s imprisonment in 1945, the Rosier family were permitted to return to France. At this time, Céléase was expected to be enrolling at Hogwarts like her elder siblings before her, but instead her mother decided to send her to Beauxbatons now that they were allowed to return to their home country.
Céléase went to live with her uncle Floxel Volant and his wife Pascaline, staying with them for seven years while she attended Beauxbatons. To their niece, Floxel and Pascaline became second parents and treated her like their daughter.
Druella was already in her third year at Hogwarts so she wasn't going to be transferring to Beauxbatons and go to live with her mother's family like her sister was.
Besides, one of the main reasons why Eglantine wanted her youngest daughter to go to France was to find a potential husband. Ella herself had already been offered plenty of promising betrothals so her mother wasn't worried about her eldest finding a good husband while remaining in England.
Eglantine tasked her sister-in-law Pascaline to introduce her daughter to a few pure-blood nobles within French society, hoping that in time one of them would ask for Céléase's hand in marriage.
While living with her aunt and uncle, she was closest with her cousin Gabriel Volant, who like Céléase, was not an extremist when it came to their family's purist ideologies. He was more open-minded and accepting towards muggles, and did not believe that just because he was a pure-blood he had the right to belittle and oppress them.
Gabriel was the youngest of Floxel and Pascaline's children, having been born around 1931, making him only three years older than his little cousin. Due to the slight age gap, this would mean that Gabriel was already in his fourth year at Beauxbatons Academy of Magic when Céléase enrolled.
The cousins did not interact with each other much during their early childhoods because of the Rosier family's inability to return to France during Grindelwald's uprising. Even so, Céléase and Gabriel managed to reconnect fairly quickly. Gabriel did not shy away from his little cousin, in spite of their earlier estrangement.
The last time the two saw each other was in 1936, before Laurent Rosier moved his family to England. At the time, Gabriel would've only been five and Céléase was two. Of course, the cousins would correspond through letters on holidays and birthdays, but they never met again in person up until Céléase went to live with Floxel and Pascaline.
#céléase rosier#floxel volant#pascaline perrott#gabriel volant#volant family#rosier family#laurent rosier#eglantine volant#eglantine rosier#etienne rosier#druella rosier#druella black#headcanons#riddle era#minette rosier ii#vinda rosier#my ocs#ocs
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Rosier cousins + Rosegold child
featuring Céléase Rosier and @konstantynowitz’s Étienne Rosier and Minette Rosier (II) with at least one of the petites roses.
#etienne rosier#minette rosier ii#celease rosier#rosegold child#rosegold#vinda x queenie child#vinda rosier x queenie goldstein#vinda rosier#queenie goldstein#rosier cousins#rosier family#rosier sr#rosier siblings#druella rosier#druella black#aesthetic
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Who is the father of Minette Rosier?
If you’re talking about Minette (II) who is the daughter of Vinda then she doesn’t really have a named father at the moment. Minette is the oc of @konstantynowitz who I’ve been helping on their family tree project. The thing about Minette is that she could be potentially used as a Rosegold love lovechild (Rosegold is the ship name for Vinda Rosier and Queenie Goldstein). For now it’s not currently decided on whether or not she would be a child of Vinda and Queenie so we’ve just put Vinda as a parent.
#rosegold#minette rosier ii#vinda rosier#queenie goldstein#vinda rosier x queenie goldstein#druella black#druella rosier#etienne rosier#felix rosier#evan rosier#laurent rosier#eglantine volant#eglantine rosier#rosier family tree#rosier family
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@konstantynowitz’s Minette Rosier II, daughter of Vinda Rosier. She is the cousin of Étienne, Druella, and Céléase Rosier.
#minette rosier ii#vinda rosier#druella rosier#druella black#celease rosier#etienne rosier#my ocs#ocs#laurent rosier#eglantine volant#eglantine rosier#rosier family#rosier cousins
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Who is Ghislaine Volant and how is she related to the Rosier siblings? I’ve read the tree, but I’m just a little confused on their relation to each other.
Ghislaine Volant is the first cousin of the Rosier siblings through their mother Eglantine. Ghislaine’s father is Floxel Volant, the younger brother of Eglantine Rosier and the mother of the Rosier siblings.
#ghislaine volant#druella rosier#druella black#etienne rosier#eglantine rosier#eglantine volant#laurent rosier#minette rosier ii#rosier family#felix rosier#evan rosier#volant family#floxel volant#pascaline perrott#anon ask#asks#celease rosier
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@konstantynowitz this would be a perfect aesthetic for Céléase Rosier tbh
Vinda x Queenie child
#céléase rosier#rosier cousins#beauxbatons#aesthetic#my ocs#ocs#druella black#druella rosier#rosier siblings#rosier family#laurent rosier#etienne rosier#eglantine volant#eglantine rosier#vinda rosier#minette rosier ii#riddle era
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Headcanon: Céléase would help babysit her baby cousins and call them her “petites roses”.
How would Vinda and Queenie had kids together? Just curious! And how would that work according to the FBAWTFT timeline?
Adoption? Surrogacy? Idk. I don’t know how things work in the magical world lol but from what I know I don’t think there is such a thing as w|w pregnancies. There could be! But personally I feel like that’s a little too… outlandish? Of course everyone has different viewpoints on how these things work but for me I feel like adoption or surrogacy is the best option.
It could maybe be like a gestational surrogacy where either Vinda or Queenie transfers a fertilized embryo to the other (I think it’d be Queenie since I view her as being more maternal and likely would want to carry the baby). This would therefore make Vinda the biological mother, but as for the identity of the father… well I guess I could just leave that up to you to figure out for yourself. Could it be Grindelwald? Sure! As a reward for Vinda’s services as his most loyal acolyte he could’ve given her a baby. But then again the father could be anyone.
As for the timeline, I’ve made it so that Vinda would’ve had to successfully fertilized and transferred their embryo into Queenie within the year 1945, so that the baby would be born in 1946. This all happens after Grindelwald’s imprisonment so Queenie would’ve been pregnant while Vinda was put on trial alongside the rest of the acolytes. If we are going for the whole Grindelwald being the father thing, then it’s still possible because the ‘conception’ could’ve taken place in 1945 before he was imprisoned.
Queenie and Vinda’s second baby would later be born in the year 1948 and they probably would’ve gone through the same process as they did with their firstborn. Obviously if we wanted Grindelwald to be the father that would no longer be a possibility since he’s imprisoned, but then again there’s other fish in the sea 😅
I don’t know about the whole genetics thing works since if Queenie were the carrier of Vinda’s egg then they wouldn’t technically be her biological kids, but tbh I don’t really care. For creativity’s sake we’re gonna let at least one of their babies inherit Queenie’s legilimency. Maybe while they were in the womb they just… developed the ability? But that’s a long-shot.
If you’re also curious about Minette Rosier (II), she doesn’t have a second parent that’s named as of now. She could be used as a Rosegold lovechild but at this moment that remains undecided. Minette was born in the mid to late 1920s, so she’d be a bit older than her ‘half-siblings’ and therefore might not fit the timeline in order to be Queenie’s daughter. Of course, this can all be changed and I could give her a later date of birth! Or I could even take a risk and say that once Queenie joined Grindelwald’s Alliance (circa 1927) she could’ve immediately gotten into a relationship with Vinda and had Minette the following year. I don’t know if I’d actually do that, but I’m not opposed to it either.
Sorry for the long response! Thanks for the ask!
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