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rayraygo1267 · 8 months ago
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Gabenath Memes because I’m Bored
Note: Featuring Adrien bc he’s pookie
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yunyin · 4 months ago
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Do you ever think about how Adrien being perfect has a new meaning when you consider that he is a sentibeing created from (presumably) the love between him and Emilie? How Gabriel pretty much idolizes her and their love? The love he justifies as being so special and important it's worth everything he's doing? How Adrien's perfection proves how special their love is? That maybe he's worthy of her?
Cuz I've thought about it a bit.
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theluckiestlb · 2 years ago
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I literally do not care if they say he’s a widower or it’s simply poor coping skills—unless the man were suddenly possessed by satan himself—no amount of grief can turn someone so callously cruel. I simply do not buy the Jekyll and Hyde narrative. 
We’ve been told Gabriel had been a normal parent once...then underwent a drastic personality change after his wife expired. 
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Adrien’s autonomy and consent have been continuously violated since his inception. He’s unaware of the fact and unsurprisingly blames himself for bending to Gabriel’s will. 
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His son is crying, on the verge of breakdown—literally begging—and Gabriel is completely unfazed by this distress.
Just as Colt Fathom came to despise/blame Félix for his illness, I suspect Gabriel harbors some degree of resentment towards Adrien due to Emilie’s passing. He may not be conscious of it, but there is a clear undercurrent of spite fueling his behavior. 
The series has drawn explicit parallels between the senti-twins. They mirror each other’s pain and story. Félix has experienced cruelty firsthand and I don’t think he would go through so much effort to free his cousin/brother for naught.
(Also, before anyone boards the Emilie-hate bandwagon, please note/recall Félix’s reaction to her portrait. He has strongly held convictions, especially with respect to sentibeings and misuse of the peacock miraculous. I don’t believe he’d feel such fondness toward someone complicit in Adrien’s mistreatment.)
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wisteriasymphony · 2 months ago
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back to wax pondering. oopsies
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wield-the-mighty-pen · 9 months ago
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Adrien Agreste as Family Line By Conan Gray
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miraculoustakes · 5 months ago
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Eminath and Gabenath in particular are so fucked up and toxic (positive) that I love to read more porn of them. There are 133 E-rated Gabenath fics on AO3 rn, which is kinda a drop in the ocean. She’s destroying her body for live of him! She’s letting his son believe they’re engaged! She’s pinning him against his kitchen table and threatening him!
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goggles-mcgee · 1 year ago
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Wish Me Away: What Goes Around Comes Around
Notes: I'm so sorry for the wait but things piled up and it overwhelmed me. My mental health declined and physical health fluctuated, lot's of personal things happened and then I just got caught up in my commissions. I try my best to multi-task but it always gets hard for me. Sometimes I'll hit a streak and then I'll hit a block.
Overall, I'm just sorry and I thank all of those who are still sticking with this story and me as an author.
Warnings for this chapter are descriptions of injuries.
Beginning Last Chapter
Summary: The Agreste's face their Karma
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Karma was a beautiful, beautiful thing if you asked Tikki. One of the only beautiful things born from her and Plagg’s combined powers. They were young when they created it, back when they hid from all, be it humanity or the wide variety of Gods and Goddesses. Kwami weren’t known to man, and to the Gods…well, some didn’t understand them, or they saw them as competition, but there were some Gods who sought them out to talk and bounce ideas off of. It was nice and it fueled her need to create. One conversation with some lovely Hindu Gods had her mind spinning to the point she demanded Plagg help her with her idea. He was reluctant, of course he was, combining their powers had proved to be a great yet terrifying thing. One that wasn’t exactly forbidden by Them before they had actually become Them , but it wasn’t highly encouraged either. 
Luck and Creation were Tikki’s domains, Bad Luck and Destruction were Plagg’s, so it was safe to assume they didn’t collaborate often. When they did though, they created such intriguing yet beautiful things that had the power to do as much good as they did harm. An example being the Lazarus Pit. It was just one pit that ended up somehow multiplying and they were spread around the globe. They were misleadingly called the Fountain of Youth, not many knew there was more than one so whichever one they discovered or heard of that was nearby or far away was deemed the fabled fountain. Human tales were such interesting things, Tikki loved hearing and reading them, even in her smaller form. They were shining examples of Creation and what could be done with the gift of Creativity. It was wonderful! Tikki loved seeing Creation in motion but it was something else to see Plagg and Destruction in work.
It was art.  
Maybe it was horrible of her to say but without him there would be no her. Creation needed Destruction and vice versa. They were an endless cycle and there was something just absolutely breathtaking about that. It was no wonder that Tikki wanted to try and merge their powers and see what could be born from it. They saw what happened when they combined their Creation and Destruction powers, but Tikki had been curious about their Luck based powers and Plagg had been a lot easier to convince once she explained that. It had been laughably easy, the power glowed above them for a couple of seconds and it was beautiful, it was more so when it separated into what Tikki could only describe as magic dust and flew in every direction. The dust coated everything and then it was gone. Naked to the eye but Tikki could feel it all around. 
At first, they had no idea what this new thing did but it became apparent the more they observed humanity.  A human would be kind or helpful in some way and Tikki would get this feeling of tickling warmth around her, this person would get a bit of good luck, nobody else could see it but Tikki, Plagg and the other Kwami (and Tikki would wager also the Gods) would see this human surrounded by some sort of glow. It was beautiful, it never stayed one color, it fluctuated and changed but always remained this soft, gentle glow. Eventually it would fade, but Tikki noticed some humans seemed to be constantly surrounded by the glow and it wasn’t a surprise to note they were some of the kindest, most generous and passionate humans she had observed. They were wonderful and Tikki felt they deserved the boost of luck, the Kwami as a whole were in awe. Then they saw the other side of things. 
Tikki knew humans weren’t perfect, that was part of their allure and all, but sometimes some of their actions truly disgusted her. They lied, which isn’t all bad, but some just lied and lied as easily as breathing and did so with no remorse even if a lie caused a problem. Sometimes they even looked proud if it caused some form of problem to happen. There were those who stole just to steal and just because they could, and there were those who killed with no guilt. Tikki and Plagg started to notice that these people started to be surrounded by a dark cloud of energy. The cloud was sometimes small, sometimes big but it always ended in some odd rain of black energy that coated the person till they resembled some sort of shadow being. How covered and how dark they became seemed to be tied to their actions and some time after that person would experience bad luck. 
Sometimes it was something as simple as something breaking right as they were used, be it old or new, and sometimes…sometimes it was a broken bone, getting an illness or even death. But the deaths were never swift, never painless, they were drawn out and full of such misery it was nearly tangible. Tikki couldn’t help but feel proud of what they created, it had some…drawbacks but overall, it was a beautiful, curious thing. Plagg had been so interested in her side of things, he chose to ignore what his had done but that was okay because Tikki found it just as, if not more fascinating than the good luck boost. It was like the world itself demanded justice and it got it when no one or nothing else did. Plagg at first had loved his powers but when he saw the hurt and hate, he stopped loving it, to an extent Tikki understood but at the same time she wanted to knock him upside the head. Without him, there would be no need for her. 
It took him a couple decades but he got there, and their strange new power grew the more time passed. It got mixed reviews from their peers and the wide array of gods but some Hindu Gods loved it. They even helped them name it as they had a similar idea but Tikki and Plagg seemed to have brought power to it. It was a great collaboration and thus Karma was born. Tikki and Plagg found it utterly fascinating and found themselves watching the humans for long periods of time. That was until They came back in their weakened state and all the Kwami came together to try and help them, it ended up being all for naught but They were not short of their wisdom and critics even in their final days. They saw Karma and though they found it just as fascinating they also scolded Tikki and Plagg for mixing their powers together without notifying them. It was a messy argument but one that ended with Tikki and Plagg getting to let Karma keep on. 
Once they were sealed in the Miraculi though, the effects of Karma weakened. It never disappeared but it did fade into a lesser version of itself. There were rare times where Tikki and Plagg were able to see Karma back in its true form and it was almost always after a Wish or after a catastrophic event in their universe. Karma followed and it healed the balance of the world. Many believed it was the Wish that did this, that took and gave in equal parts but that wasn’t true. The Wish brought about whatever change the Hopeful who had managed to obtain both the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculi together had requested, and yes They took something of equal value to the Hopeful in exchange, but it wasn’t balanced. Karma helped balance out all the negatives that came after such events, but when it was caused by a Wish it tended to be more … unpredictable. It was more powerful, more spread out, more vicious and bountiful. 
It would reach everywhere a Kwami, and later, a Miraculous had touched. For those who had any saved up Good Karma, Good Fortune would follow them for a while. How long was never determined as sometimes it went on longer than expected or someone had used up all their collected Good Karma on one big thing. Again, it was unpredictable. The same was true for those who had built up Bad Karma, they could have a lot of low level Bad Fortune or even a lot of high level Bad Fortune. And like Good Fortune, someone could use up all their built up Bad Fortune on something big. When that happened, it was a terrifying sight. The punishments that Karma dictated for those with Bad Fortune could be deadly and some were. Tikki remembered them well. So she knew that no matter what, after Gabriel had made his Wish that Karma would be back in its full power and it was something that would have excited her if she had not been actively losing her latest Bug. She had been so close to losing Marinette and her heart raced whenever she thought about it at Wayne Manor. She wanted her revenge. 
That’s why she had asked Them if she could enact Karma, not natural Karma, that would happen regardless. No, Tikki had asked permission for Kwami Karma, a very special type of Karma that allowed Tikki and Plagg and whichever Kwami’s felt wronged or blessed by a former Holder, some of their former power from before they were Sealed and let them bestow Gifts/Blessings. Though some of the Gifts could very well be called curses, that was part of the Kwami Karma and how a Kwami felt towards the person receiving the Karma. It had been something that Tikki and Plagg last collaborated on as a branch of Karma, many people who had worshiped them had called it Divine Honor or Divine Punishment, whichever applied. It was Hippolyta that bestowed the updated name upon them, really she had been joking, “ Ah, so it is to be a Karma of the Kwami? ” The name stuck though as it had made Tikki laugh. 
Though the name brought a smile to her face once more, it wasn’t a fond smile nor one born of laughter, no this smile was one that promised vengeance. The wind rushed around her and the others as they flew across the Paris sky.  Bruce hadn’t been happy about what they were going to do and yet he had still offered to take them to Paris, Tim had even thought about letting them use something called a Zeta-Tube, they were both very nice offers but this was something that had to be done only by the Kwami. Thankfully they had been given some of their former power that morning, it had been hard to hide it from the new family but Tikki thought they had managed well. Kaalki had opened a portal for them after they had all said goodbye to little Marietta, some goodbyes took longer than normal despite everyone knowing they would be home before the day was up but Tikki couldn’t be mad about it. Marietta deserved every bit of love she got. 
“So, are we doing the announcement first or the Gifts first, Lovebug?” Plagg asked, his voice fluctuating between the high-pitched one Tikki had gotten used to hearing and his old one, his original voice, the one she missed more than she could say. 
“The announcement will be first, but before that, we need to give out some Gifts .” Her voice fluctuated too now that they were close to accomplishing their Karma. 
“Are we starting with…with them, then?” Nooroo asked, his voice soft no matter if it was fluctuating. He had yet to raise his voice above anything other than a soft tone and it hurt Tikki’s heart to see her fellow Kwami like that. It made her furious. 
“Yes, Nooroo. We are starting with the worst of them. Gabriel Agreste and-” Tikki started.
“And Adrien Agreste.” Plagg finished in a hard voice. She gave a short nod as she didn’t know what to say to help Plagg. He was betrayed once more and so was one of her Bugs and it never got easier to deal with. 
It wasn’t long before they got to the Agreste Mansion and Tikki felt all her anger and fury rise once more. She looked at the others, then toward Nooroo who flew to her side to join her and Plagg. The others gave them nods before they found spots to hide on the property until Tikki called them. Tikki looked at Nooroo who was staring blankly at the large window in the back of the mansion where the lair had been, he was shaking slightly. “Come. They will get what they deserve My Friend, and you will get closure.” 
“I would like to come as well, if you don’t mind. I know my Holder is no more, but…” Tikki turned back to see Duusuu floating a little behind them all. Her voice was hopeful yet weak. She was still recovering from the damage that had befallen her Miraculous and now that They had fixed it, her recovery was a sure thing, but it was a slow process. Tikki hadn’t even wanted Duusuu to fly out with them all, but she was a stubborn Kwami. Tikki couldn’t deny her, her own closure in that mansion. 
“Of course Duusedda,” It had been many many years since the Kwami as a whole have used their full names, but this was an important moment and Tikki felt like the Kwami before her deserved to hear her own name in full before they all confronted the Agrestes. The smile she got in response made her resolve all the more stronger. So the four Kwami phased into the mansion and followed the voices. Plagg took the lead on the flight as he was the more familiar with the house, Nooroo was confined to two rooms so wasn’t all that familiar with the home if you could even call it that. 
Tikki could hear the voices more clearly and did not hesitate to go towards the doors and use a power boost to blow them open. She had not been expecting the sight of Emilie Agreste to strike her like it did but she did not let it hinder her mission. Though, a big part of her wished that the woman was included in her Karma. She may not have been revived with her consent but she almost took her Baby Bug from her and that was not something Tikki tolerated. For the sake of balance and for Them , she would not do anything to the woman, plus nothing Miraculous would affect the woman since she was a product of a Wish, it was something Tikki brooded about a lot before this day. She may not be able to touch the woman, but she could touch Gabriel and Adrien who were present and immediately tried to fight off whatever kept them stuck to their chairs. Tikki, Duusuu, Plagg and Nooroo all made their way to the center of the table, which was a longer flight than Tikki expected. What was the point of such a long table? No reasons seemed to be good enough reasons to Tikki and by the look on Plagg’s face, she knew she wasn’t alone in the thought. 
“Hello Gabriel.” Nooroo said, his voice surprisingly and not so surprisingly was cold as steel. Gabriel looked like he was yelling silently at them all but Tikki felt no need to subject them all to his pathetic voice and demands. Unlike Nino’s family who were frozen and aware, the Agreste’s could move their upper body and somewhat legs, they were just stuck to the chairs they sat in and the chairs were firmly stuck to the floor. Tikki did steal their ability to talk or more so muted them as she did not need them to try and justify their actions, she did not want to hear their anger, hers was louder and they would be her first audience. 
“Kid.” Plagg said with a smile that was all teeth. His pupils slit so thin they almost looked like they disappeared in the sea of green that was his sclera. 
“Emilie, it is nice to see you awake.” Duusuu said softly, Tikki didn’t agree with her statement but well, the Peacock Kwami always was one of the nicer beings. They were nice but they did hold grudges for a long amount of time if someone wronged them. They got attached fast though, though to say that would make Tikki a hypocrite. 
“I won’t drag this out. The less time I have to be in the presence of you three would be a blessing.” Tikki growled out. She swiftly looked at Nooroo and Plagg and the three of them shared a grim nod. “Gabriel Agreste, former holder of the Butterfly Miraculous, you have been deemed an enemy of the Miraculi. As such you are forbidden from wielding any Miraculous as long as you shall live.”
The shock in Gabriel’s eyes was delicious as was the panic in Adrien’s. Emilie looked horrified but not shocked and that also gave Tikki some pleasure but not as much as she thought it would. “You, Gabriel Agreste are the catalyst to this Karma, in a way, I suppose I could thank you but that would be giving you too much credit. Besides, you do not deserve my thanks or anyone else’s. You invoked my wrath. You killed my Chosen! You destroyed her! Erased her. I take great pleasure in bestowing unto you, your Karma. I, Tikki, Kwami of Creation curse you with memory.”
Gabriel, who had been doing his best to escape the chair, paused at her words. Was the man really that surprised? Did he truly not think there would be consequences to his actions? The thought made Tikki sneer. 
“You will remember the prices others paid for your selfishness. You will remember Nathalie,” Emilie looked genuinely shocked at the name of her friend and equally heartbroken. “Your devoted right hand who did and would do everything for you. You will dream of the woman you erased from the world. You will see every time she sacrificed her happiness for you and your whims. You will feel the love she had for you and the pain she felt every time her love was rejected, you will feel the pain she was in once she started using the Peacock Miraculous. This pain will last for all the years Nathalie Adeline Sancoeur was alive.” 
Emilie was sobbing but her tears were silent due to the magic that was placed on all three Agrestes. She was yelling, presumably at Gabriel who was not paying her any attention. His face was pale, his mouth agape. “You will also remember Marinette Meiying Dupain-Cheng, also known as Li-Mei by her family in China. You will be plagued by visions of possible futures had you not taken her from this world. You will see how Paris would have mourned her as the hero Ladybug, as the classmate many admired and also her as the kind baker’s daughter. You will never know rest. My final ‘ gift ’ upon you Gabriel Agreste, is the gift of a long, healthy life. And for my parting curse, as I am Creation and Creation is me, I curse you with the loss of skill. You will retain your creative spirit but you will never be able to bring to life one of your ideas ever again.”
Next up was Nooroo, he looked nervous but determined. “I, Nooroo, Kwami of Transmission bestow upon you the curse of never wielding my Miraculous as long as you live. You corrupted a Miraculous, you imprisoned me and you did it all with no hesitation, no remorse and I will repay that to you. With no hesitation in my heart and no remorse to be felt I bestow the marks of a traitor to me and an enemy of the Miraculi unto you Gabriel Agreste.”
As soon as the last word fell from Nooroo’s lips, Gabriel spasmed and clutched at his chest and back. His silent screams meant nothing to the Kwami but it seemed like they affected both Emilie and Adrien who tried to reach out to Gabriel. Their mouths were asking questions no one could or would answer. Nooroo felt no relief or vindication at what he had done and would do but he also felt no guilt. “I also give you the…’gift’ of memory and pain. You will remember each ‘akuma’ you created and all the pain they caused to the people of Paris. You will feel each death as if it were your own, you will feel the break of each bone and you will feel the sting of each scratch. That is my parting gift to you, I have nothing else to say.”
Plagg put a hand on Nooroo’s shoulder and gave him a rueful grin before he took his place in front of Gabriel. “I, Plagg, Kwami of Destruction curse you Gabriel Agreste, with a curse of destruction. As I am Destruction and Destruction is me, I bestow upon you this curse of destruction, you will destroy every relationship you have, had and are going to have. No one will ever trust you, no one will ever like you and no one will ever love you again. You tore relationships and strained them during your tantrum as Hawkmoth, you will experience that first hand now.” 
With Plagg’s final words Tikki knew their curses and gifts were placed and finalized. She watched impassively as Gabriel tore his shirt off and finally saw what his marks were. Emilie had a hand over her mouth as she stared in horror at the red, irritated and raised skin on his chest that took the shape of the Butterfly Brooch, he would carry the reminder of his failures by the burn on his chest. It would never fade, it could never be removed or covered by tattoos. It was his brand as an enemy, it would be the first of many marks given today but his and Adrien’s would be the only ones whose marks caused them pain. Everyone else would possibly feel a slightly uncomfortable itch at first or nothing when given their marks. But these two? These two deserved the pain Tikki felt, they had caused her and many others pain by almost taking away her Baby Bug, so they would feel pain in return. Let the world know that they, the Kwami, were not as benevolent as rumored or to be believed, they were higher beings of morally gray standings and it was time they showed it. 
Gabriel turned around to show Nooroo’s parting mark, the mark that he betrayed the Kwami. Two large yet not so deep gashes ran across his back, deep enough to scar, which was Nooroo’s goal. The gashes were parallel and symmetrical, if Gabriel had had wings, Tikki was sure that’s where they would have been placed on his back. Gabriel had lost his wings and now it was time to show the whole of Paris that. “We have punished you, Gabriel Agreste, as we see fit, but the people of Paris haven’t punished you yet. So, as a peace offering you will be locked in one of their jails, La Santé. Should anyone…desire to help you, they will be sorely disappointed to find you can never leave. I am not cruel, you will be provided meals even if those at the prison decide not to give you some. You will be provided a TV so you can watch everything happen around you. So mote it be.” 
Just like that, Gabriel was gone from his seat, Emilie was crying while Adrien also looked close to tears but was yelling at them. His hair was a mess, his face red and spittle flying from his mouth. He looked as unhinged as Tikki imagined, she knew the boy was hiding a darker side like all did, she just never thought it reached this far. All Black Cat’s had darker sides but they all knew how to control it or embrace it, Adrien was not one of those that could do so. It was a mark, one of many of a False Cat. Thankfully, they would leave this place soon. “Adrien Agreste, former holder of the Cat Miraculous, you have been deemed an enemy of the Miraculi. As such you are forbidden from wielding any Miraculous as long as you shall live.”
Adrien stopped his silent screaming and looked at her like she had grown another head, honestly, she wasn’t even one of the Kwami that did possess two heads in the original form, so she felt like it was rude. “You can glare at me all you want, little boy, but it will do nothing to help you. You are the one who betrayed the Miraculi, not the other way around. As such, I, Tikki, Kwami of Creation bestow upon you the curse of memory. You will remember Marinette, you will remember every instance she put her happiness aside for your own. You will see all the times your ‘flirting’ made her uncomfortable as Ladybug and Marinette. You will see every time you let her down. You will remember Nathalie and every time she made excuses for you and all the times she got in trouble because of you. They also give you a curse, you can never tell anyone about the Miraculi, about us Kwami, but if asked you will only admit to being the traitor Chat Noir. Finally, I bestow upon you a gift. You never wanted Marinette so I shall make everything she ever gave you, turn to ash. It’s only fair after all. My gift will make it so you won’t be so cruelly reminded of Marinette, well, visually at least.”
After saying her peace, Tikki flew to the flowers in the middle of the table and sat upon a leaf, though she would hear everything, she wanted to give Plagg his space to say his own peace. She knew it was going to be hard on him but he always did prefer to show his emotions in private so he wouldn’t break in front of his peers. He rarely let Tikki in so she felt bad that they were present for this moment, but it was needed. She watched as Plagg flew towards Adrien and landed in front of the boy far enough to not be grabbed. His antennae were flat against his head and back, it hurt Tikki’s heart to see. “Kid… Adrien, I’ve thought long and hard about this. You may not have been my True Chosen, but you had potential and I…I cared for you, I thought you would have grown into a great Cat. You had spirit, but somewhere along the way you lost sight of what was important. My Cats tend to be on the reckless side but they have heart and are more than willing to lend a paw when they are needed. You are not Cat of mine.”
“With all that said, I, Plagg, Kwami of Destruction bestow upon you the curse of Bad Luck. You will forever be plagued with bad luck, some days can be better than others but that will all depend on you. If you genuinely do something to help someone or comfort someone with no ill intent or selfish gain, your bad luck will be minimal. Do something out of selfishness or deceitfulness and your bad luck will become worse. I will also give you a gift, you care so much about what others think of you I give you the gift of Thoughts. You will hear every single negative thought anyone has had about you. You as Adrien and you as Chat Noir. You, like your father, will bear the marks of enemy and traitor.” Plagg said in a monotone voice. At the end of his speech Adrien spasmed much like Gabriel had but this time he clutched at his right hand before his head was forcefully turned to the side by an invisible force.
Emilie tried to go to her baby boy and Tikki, feeling merciful, allowed it. Emilie shot out of her chair and to Adrien at incredible speed she cradled him to her as best she could while she sobbed. She ran a hand through his hair and pressed a hand to the supposed scratch marks on Adrien’s face and even though he couldn’t hear her, she was trying to calm him as best she could. Her words may not have been heard but her actions were. Well, to Tikki at least. As much as she despised the woman in front of her, she knew it truly wasn’t her fault and let herself feel bad for her. She awoke to pain and even if Tikki believed she had a part in Marinette being erased she also acknowledged it was Gabriel who started everything in a way. Tikki sighed before looking at Duusuu. “Duusuu.”
The Peacock Kwami looked at her and with just a look they knew what she was going to say, so the Kwami gave her a soft smile. “Emilie, I know you never wanted this. But you did ignore my warnings so long ago and though I can’t give a gift of any great weight and can still give you a small one. So I, Duusuu, Kwami of Emotion, bestow the gift of Innocence. No matter what comes to light you will never hold any blame or suspicion. Given what has happened and what will happen, you need not be punished more than you already have.”
“I will not fight Duusuu’s decision.” Tikki said after a while of silence. “We leave you here as I have a broadcast to make but one final word, Adrien, there is… hope for you. You can be rid of your curses if you realize and admit your guilt in all that has happened. That and accept it wholeheartedly, only then will you be free, but you will never rid yourself of your marks. This will be the last time you see us in person.”
No other words were said before the four Kwami left the house. There was no time for delays, Tikki and the others had Karma to deliver and there would be plenty to go around.
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let-me-be-an-egg-toast · 19 hours ago
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emilie and nathalie peacock forms!
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rapaonne and mayura :D
(btw mayura's sleeves are not a cape just open sleeves)
these are my designs for the canon reverse au (the mlb special) where gabe really said "yeah my name is betterfly" and bug and cat were (poorly) emo asf
in my slight rewrite (?) au of sorts emilie actually started the rebellion (she was the only fighter during that time). duusu managed to cunningly escape the supreme and landed near the agreste home. emilie took duusu in, and the rest was history. she unfortunately died to the supreme themself but managed to steal the butterfly miraculous before dying, giving the miraculous to gabe. gabe got so heartbroken he legit gaslighted himself into thinking her death was all his fault
adrien is their BIOLOGICAL FULL BLOODED SON and he was just 6 when emilie died (and yes unbeknownst to gabe that time HE SAW THE BODY) and got scarred
from this event he became averse to heroes and fighting back against the supreme
nathalie wasn't here during this time but she did admire Rapaonne and was shocked when she turned out to be emilie agreste
gabe hired nathalie when adrien was 8 because he realized he cant properly handle the fighting-citizen balance
nathalie becomes adrien's mom figure and funnily ironically enough gabe kinda becomes the "mom's bf (derogatory)" instead of "my dad" to adrien
nath is less professional-stoic in here and more openly expressive and comfortable (i mean considering the gabe and adrien here are you suprised /j) even helping whenever gabe has a creative block or smth
nath finds out about gabe's whole thing and demanded she help him to his reluctance. she didn't get to wear the miraculous until an attack where my oc (ophelia sue/pilopollen) got backed into a corner while trying to protect nath. nath was forced to become mayura to protect them both
the costume still takes on its form based on the user BUT duusu kinda takes control on the creative aspect - considering how peacocks are sometimes symbols of beauty and well ya gotta SHOW OFF THOSE FEATHERS YK
said feathers are as strong as IRON and can be used to protect from mostly anything even bullets and peacock users can actually see through walls and shit (all of these are inspired from diff symbolisms)
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miraculouslbcnreactions · 6 months ago
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So I absolutely despise the Senti-Rich kids plot, and I get the feeling you dont like it much either
Can you think of any way to make a plotline like that actually work in ML?
You would be correct in your assumption! There are a lot of ways to make that plot work. I'll list a few going in rough order from least changes to canon to most extreme changes to canon:
Never use the peacock for canon fodder sentimonsters or mention that sentimonsters have a remote control and the ethical issues become a lot less complicated, letting you treat the peacock like a wacky fertility drug. This path is kinda boring and still makes the Agrestes look bad, but it would remove all my main issues.
Modify the peacock so that there's something to make it clear that the senti kids are different from a normal sentimonster. I think I've seen someone mention the idea that, to make a living senti, you have to give up part of yourself and that's an interesting idea, though I think that sort of nuanced commentary on infertility is too complex for a kids show. Still, the general concept could work, especially if you added a way for a living sentimonster to break free of their amok.
Lean into the secret society stuff the show hinted at with things like the Diamond Dance and whatever the weird mask party was back in season four. Have some sort of rich people conspiracy to have perfect children that the heroes have to stop.
Along similar lines to the previous or in addition to the previous: actually acknowledge that you've introduced a slavery plot to your show and let there be a free the slaves plot. And I mean really free them. None of this, "well, you're technically still a slave, but we've given you the remote control, so it's fine! Just never ever let that ring out of your sight, okay? And be careful about giving yourself orders by accident!"
My favorite path: change the peacock's power to be something else, but keep the general plot line of that power being used in relation to Adrien (and the other two, if you want). I'll admit that this one is somewhat similar to the first idea, but the reason I like this and not that is that I just generally hate the idea of magical designer babies, but I like the idea that Emilie used the peacock for Adrien's sake. It's nice dramatic tension. I actually assumed this was going to be the big reveal up until we learned the peacock's power. Post reveal, I assumed that I was wrong because the sentimonster stuff seemed like too stupid of a move for anyone to make. I also find the peacock both overpowered and too similar to the butterfly, so I've wanted it to be something else ever since it was first introduced. The sentibaby plot line just further fueled my dislike.
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porryc · 1 year ago
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Reverse Emilie Agreste didn’t die from a broken miraculous she clearly murdered by Superme
Gabriel mentions that he used to work for Superme's court but stole the miraculous of butterfly and peacock for what he wanted most
What he wanted the most is of course ; create Adrien
However the miraculous in Emilie's hand in the Gabriel’s song is not broken
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Even if it was already broken it is very likely that this person who also gave Toxinelle and Griffe Noir their miraculous is Master Fu which is the evil antagonist of that universe and we all know he have the knowledge to fix a broken miraculous
Also there blood details around Emilie's hand in the image
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There is a huge Superme logo behind Gabriel who is crying hysterically and holding Emilie's dead body
This entire image which looks like a murder scene gives the impression that Superme killed Gabriel's wife Emilie in revenge for stealing peacock and butterly miraculous
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At the end of the generic we see Gabriel who fights with Superme to avenge his wife and wants to bring peace to the Dystopia he lives in
Also that means Griffe Noir working for his mom’s killer without knowing when he wanted to bring her back to life so badly
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rayraygo1267 · 1 year ago
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A Gabenath Fanfiction
Note: I haven’t written fanfiction in a while so this might be really cringe..and I’m a horrible editor so I sincerely apologize for any grammatical errors.
Also I wanna give a shout-out to a friend of mine who helped me brainstorm for this piece. They didn’t want me to share any of their information but they deserve the credit :)
Rated: T
Summary: After a not so helpful conversation with Nino, Adrien is at a loss on how to go about having his first kiss with Marinette. With Nino out of the equation, Adrien decides he’ll go to the next best thing, his parents. While trying to pry for information from both Gabriel and Nathalie, Adrien may come to find out an interesting secret that lays in their past.
Title: Just a Peck on the Lips
"Dude! How have you two not kissed yet?"
Adrien sighed, his cheeks warming.
"I mean...I want to and I think Marinette wants to, but I don't know..."
Nino grinned, nudging Adrien's arm.
"What is there to not know? You just take her out on a nice date and do whatever it is you two do, and then at the end just when the moment is right you kiss her."
Well that was easy for Nino to say, him and Ayla have been together for months now. They've surely kissed countless times.
"But how do I know when the moment is just right?" Adrien murmured more to himself rather than to Nino.
Nino placed a finger to his chin contemplating.
"I don't know dude. You just...know."
Again he said it as if it was so easy.
"Right." Adrien agreed not wanting to touch on the subject matter any longer. He waved goodbye to Nino, who seemed to be none the wiser to his distress.
Adrien knew he had to get home soon or he'd be late for his Chinese lesson.  However, despite trying to get his mind to focus on more pressing issues, he couldn't stop thinking about Marinette and what a kiss with her would be like. The only thing he couldn't seem to figure out was when he was going to kiss her. Should he ask for her permission first or should he just go for it?
As he made his way up to his room, Nino's words began to echo in his ears.
You just know...
"Father." Adrien called, knocking gently three times on the double doors of his father's office. He could hear his father walking about in there muttering about designs and pattern choices to himself.
"Father!" He called again. He heard as the older man let out a deep sigh and an aggravated grunt.
"What is it, Adrien?"
"Can I talk to you for a second?"
Another grunt.
"Can it wait? I'm very busy."
Adrien sighed, his heart sinking.
"Never mind..."
Adrien blew out a breath. He hadn't expected anything more. Really, what could one expect from someone like Gabriel Agreste?
Luckily after fourteen years of dealing with Gabriel, he knew all the ways to get under his skin. After a few moments of watching him through the door crack, his breath coming out in puffs, Gabriel let out a sigh that honestly sounded more like a snarl.
“Fine Adrien. I'll give you five minutes, five minutes and that’s it.”
Five minutes was all Adrien needed.
“Why are you asking me this?”
Out of all the things that could’ve come out of his father’s mouth, Adrien had not been expecting this. Did he really want to tell his father about Marinette? Would his father even care? Would he care too much?
“I…well there’s this girl—“
His father immediately waved him away, brows furrowing in revulsion.
“Adrien,” he began, his tone as stern as ever, “I don’t want to hear any more of this girl and details on what has happened in my life is most certainly none of your concern.”
“But Father!” Adrien cried frantically, though it came out more whiny than he had intended it to. To make matters worse, his father was already standing up, ready to turn on his heel and act as if this conversation never happened.
Out of desperation for his only chance of finding out how to court Marinette, Adrien bolted forward pawing at the fabric of his father’s shirt.
“Father please!” He wailed. Surprisingly, Gabriel didn’t make any moves to go away, stopping in his tracks completely. Was he actually bothering to listen to what Adrien had to say?
Before he lost his nerve, Adrien went on, “I barely know anything about your past and I just want to get closer to you…I…aren’t son’s supposed to come to their father’s to talk about things like this?”
Adrien felt his father stiffen and watched with bolstering anticipation as the older Agreste turned to face him.
Gabriel huffed, his expression sour, “if you must know...it was at a college party back in my days at Sorbonne.”
Adrien’s eyes widened. He had not been expecting that. His father’s first kiss was at a college party. Huh.
His father did not say anything more and Adrien didn’t get the chance to pry due to an office door being slammed in his face, but this was a start…even if he didn’t get any actual advice at least he got to know a little something more about his dear old dad.
So yes, even though he was elated with his results, he knew due to his father's lack of communication skills that he'd have to resort to a far more promising resource.
Nathalie.
                    
He found Nathalie at her usual spot in the desk to the side of the entryway. She had a look of deep concentration, her eyes scanning over her tablet. As he approached, he saw as her focus broke, her gaze diverting up to his.
"Hey Nathalie," Adrien said, his voice wavering. Was it obvious what his intentions were? Nathalie was smart, he wouldn't put it past her to have somehow already figured out his dilemma, but perhaps that meant she had a solution.
Nathalie pulled her glasses up, setting her tablet to the side.
"Do you need something Adrien?"  
"So..." he trailed off, wringing his figures together.
She made a ticking motion with her hands, obviously aggravated by being distracted from her work. Adrien felt his cheeks heat up as all his questions hung on the tip of his tongue.
"Well I want to kiss Marinette but I don't know how. I don't know if she's ready or if I'm ready and I..." he paused his rampage coming to a halt. Nathalie hadn't even flinched as she looked at him expectantly to continue. Even without her judgment, he felt his embarrassment coming to full front.
"Do you...have any tips?"
Nathalie blinked and sighed, her demeanor seemingly uncomfortable.
“Tips?” She questioned.
“Yeah like how should I go about it and all that? I mean I’m sure you have experience—“
Nathalie cringed, nose wrinkling, “Adrien,” she started, “maybe this is a conversation you'd prefer to have with your father—"
"I already tried that!"
Nathalie startled, taken aback. Adrien flushed even more and raised his hands in a gesture of surrender.
“Look, you don't even have to give me tips, just tell me what your first kiss was like."
Nathalie's eyes widened, her mouth parting.
"Excuse me?”
"Your first kiss, what was it like?"
Well..." she hesitated, she’d normally shut Adrien down but it sounded like she was his last resort anyway, might as well give him something.
“It was very quick and unexpected, more like a peck on the lips."
Adrien frowned, "but aren't first kisses supposed to be special? What made yours so chaste?"
Nathalie made a face, biting her lip in contemplation. After a moment she replied, “He was already interested in somebody else.”
The room suddenly became rigid. Guilt lanced through Adrien’s chest. He shouldn’t have been so nosy. Nathalie’s past was her business and he shouldn’t have pried.
“Oh…I’m sorry—“
“Don’t be. Really, it was just a game of spin the bottle at a college party back in my days at Sorbonne."
Adrien quirked a brow, his curiosity returning with a vengeance as the gears in his brain began to churn.
“Didn't Dad go to Sorbonne too?"
Nathalie looked brought up short, her lips pursing, "well yes but—"
There was an audible click as the conclusion formed itself in his mind.
His father's first kiss was at a college party, Sorbonne which also happened to be where Nathalie attended as well, not only that but the timings would line up too because Nathalie and his father had met at the beginning of their second semester of college and in just a few short weeks his mother came along for the ride joining the complementary duo. They were their own little tight-knit group, they were all each other had. 
The three of them even had their graduation photos taken together, grad caps, diplomas and all. Adrien had a personal copy of said graduation photo in his room. It had been his mother’s but since her disappearance, he felt the compulsion to hold onto it as a personal keepsake.
Now as he watched Nathalie, his mind clicking as what felt like all the missing pieces fell into place, he couldn’t help but smirk.
“Nathalie..." he began cheekily, "was your first kiss my father?"
Nathalie coughed though it came out more as a gag.
"I-I hardly see why that is relevant!" She stuttered, her cheeks burning with a bright hue of color. Adrien gasped, his shock palpable.
"Oh my god! It totally was!" He squealed. Nathalie stiffened, her fists clenched,
"Adrien—"
"Dad!" Adrien hollered, turning on his heel and bolting down to his father's office.
"Adrien!" Nathalie jumped to her feet, practically leaping over her desk, determined to catch the young boy.
"Adrien Agreste! Do not bother your father with such trivial things!" She cried. With the resounding click of her stilettos she sped up the marble stairs. She could hear what she would normally consider Adrien's bubbly, cheerful laughter as he called out for his father.
Her fingers twitched just as she yanked Adrien by the shoulder, pulling him backward. She could feel her heart pumping at a fast plateau against her chest at the sound of rummaging and angry footsteps coming from behind Gabriel’s office door.
Her knuckles were white, her grip like a claw on Adrien’s shoulder. Both of them knew what was coming next and only one of them seemed pleased by it, if Adrien’s smug smile was anything to go by.
In the next moment a very much agitated Gabriel Agreste flung open the door.
"Adrien!" He bellowed, his eyes bulging, “what is the meaning of all this ruckus?"
Without missing a beat the young Agreste piped up, “was Nathalie—"
"Sir, I can explain!" Nathalie interjected, her stomach falling to the floor with what almost felt like an audible slush. Gabriel tsked waving his hand in annoyance and to both Nathalie and Adrien's surprise, he seemed to have turned his focus to his son.
In that moment Nathalie could see the likes of her career flashing before her eyes just as Adrien spoke his next words, "was Nathalie your first kiss?"
Nathalie’s insides crumbled.
Gabriel's eyes widened, his mouth falling into a perfect o. If she was being honest with herself, Nathalie was pretty sure she'd never seen her boss at such a loss for words in her entire life. After a few moments of what can only be described as deafeningly tense silence, Gabriel muttered, "yes but I don't see how that's relevant or any of your business—"
"Exactly as I said sir!" Nathalie butted in. She could put up with a lot of things but she would not be humiliated in front of her boss.
The room was stiff, the air practically being engulfed by the tension. While certainly not his current objective, Adrien did consider today's events to result in him learning a valuable lesson. Perhaps it was best to just stick with his friend's advice from now on.
Now as he stood there. looking between his father and Nathalie, their eyes locked as they held a silent conversation, he knew that that was his cue.
"Well," he said slyly, "it looks like you two have a lot to talk about." And with that he turned on his heel and left the two adults to question nothing but themselves.
A/N: Thanks for reading! I hope you guys liked it! I did a lot of revising before I posted this so hopefully it came out in something that wasn’t a complete incoherent mess. Also I was wondering would you guys want me to write a prequel to this, like where I go into full detail about how Gabriel and Nathalie’s first kiss really went down, almost like a flashback sorta thing? If y’all have any other gabenath fanfic ideas or prompts please send them my way! I’ll take any requests!
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buggachat · 1 year ago
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honestly i wonder if the reason nathalie isn't mentioned in the emoverse is because she just straight up isn't there. not that she's dead or anything but she's just not there. in canonverse nathalie actually met gabriel and emilie while on an expedition to find the lost miraculouses because she was an archeological looter, and then they decided to hire her as a bodyguard/assistant after that... but if in this universe, gabriel instead stole the miraculouses from some high class political cult that he was a part of...... maybe he simply never hired nathalie to help him, and thus never met her. maybe emonathalie is just chilling in the bahamas or something as far away from the agrestes as possible. good for her
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familyagrestefanblog · 1 year ago
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Jep, this is basically it.
A+ additional tags 👏👏
ML Hot Take
Chat noir is hiding just as much from Ladybug as she is from him, and they are both doing it just so the other is kept safe and unburdened because they both have a flawed understanding of the other, which leaves them both at fault for the ladynoir fall out.
#MLB#Adrien Agreste#Marinette Dupain Cheng#Ladynoir conflict#I miss loving this girl so much#Why this 'feminist' show demanded that girls need to be praised for being questionable leaders and partners is beyond me#Even in s5 she's BARELY acknowledging that Chat exists underneath the mask and only does so in Kwamis choice when she's basically forced to#'she loves him so much!' is not an argument nor an actual Canon observation anymore bc shes beyond RECKLESS with his life and emotions#Buddy. Her not wanting him dead or not wanting him in pain is neither a standard nor an excuse fordoing everything on his damn expense#She barely ever even TRIED giving the boy underneath the mask an ounce of proper help while she is all he gets to have as support#And her wanting to kiss him in s5 doesn't equal her actually helping him either#The only time she did her damn job towards him was Passion and there Adrien was deadass basically holding her Miraculous hostage#And then she never really does anything again or before that. No matter how many times she sees Chat badly struggle in front of her#No wonder that boy didn't make it out of this partnership#My Ladynoir heart will never stop bleeding and you have to be delusional to think s4 made them STRONGER#Whne s5 Ladynoir is either kind colleagues the way she demanded in s4 or deader than Emilie bc Adrien actualy needed some stability for onc#Yes she loves her Chaton but my problem is that CHATON is all she allows him to be and treats him as if he doesnt exist as civilian#Not to mention that she's never owed up to him about having a second partner behind his back when Alya should have been the helper to BOTH#If Alya had she might hav been able to take the Ring in the finale so Mari isnt ALONE but couldnt bc Mari neglected Destruction to Alya TOO#Oc Alya was too afraid to take Destruction in the finale. Nothing about what Mari's leadership teached her gave the Black Cat any relevance#besides 'anomynous little pet to take emotions out on' & 'emotional support partner whose civilian life is irrelevant'#and all the Ladybug has to do being 'try to laugh' & 'tollerating them when they think you owe them anything unti they learned their lesson#Its not like Alya didnt just accept a random new Black Cat in Kwamis Ch. & didnt even ask for a NAME bc safety around the Cat means NOTHING#Plus LB ALSO denied him the right to get someone himself while still being perfectly fine with Chat further showering her in support#Support she's not giving back & seemingly never considered he might ever need as well beyond a little sentence and cute nickname from her#Despite him openly showing his problems in front of her in s5 several times and yet doing basically nothing to help?#What. Was she simply too comfortable gettin showered in support while hardly bein ask anythin besides not starting raging & screaming again#So she rather kept him believing her lie taht she's ALWAYS been as isolated AS HIM so nothing changes and he doesn't ask for more?#Since from Adriens perspective LB lost Scarabella in Kwamis Ch. who he was made to believe was a person she picked on the spot nothing more#What happened to the boy underneath Chats mask in the s5 finale was something Marinette was WILLING to risk by choosing to look away instea
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wisteriasymphony · 7 months ago
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Adrien was never the type to have a solid grip on living. Even at an age where he couldn't see it—much less articulate it—the misery would bleed in through the walls. Most boys his age were at worst the kind of reckless one would expect from a developing brain. Boys were meant to scrape their knees, dislodge a tooth, maybe break a wrist.
At six years old, Adrien was moved into a room without a balcony. It would be an understatement to say he couldn't be trusted with one; Had there been room on the first floor, he would've been kept down there. But sealing the windows shut was hopefully enough to keep him from jumping off the ledge again.
"We can't send him to school like this!" Emilie has initially protested, cradling her baby boy in her arms. She was lucky he wasn't human, or perhaps there wouldn't be enough left to hold. "My sweet boy," she wept. "My precious boy."
Adrien, as pristine as the day he was made, looked to his father. Gabriel creased his brows as he noticed the boy had nothing behind his eyes. Just smooth, green glass.
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ijustliketoreadstuff · 4 months ago
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Gabriel was a monster to them now.
When Felix brought up ending Gabriel's reign of controlling other people, he mentions his mother as well as himself as part of the list of people Gabriel was turning into what he wanted them to be, and no wonder. Aside from hiding the existence of the peacock miraculous from Felix, the very jewel that controlled Felix's entire existence in the world, Gabriel was deliberately trying to make sure Felix and Amelie remained as naïve as possible, unaware of his true nature and the secrets he hid from them.
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Ever since Amelie's first introduction in "Felix" it was obvious she had a lot of love and care for Emelie's family, wanting to be there for them even in their darkest times, but Gabriel for one could not care any less for Amelie.
Amelie may be Emelie's only sister, but Gabriel viewed her and the rest of her family as more of a nuisance. He hated Colt, Felix's dad, to the point of not attending his funeral, hated Felix for everything he did that led up to their confrontation in "Strike Back", where Felix threatening to expose his secrets if he didn't give up the peacock miraculous. And while Amelie made past efforts to keep their families close by visiting, Gabriel for one disliked having her around.
(Back in "Felix", Amelie planned a surprise visit to the Agreste' mansion, hoping they could all be together on the anniversary of Emelie's disappearance, something Adrien greatly appreciated, but not Gabriel.)
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Aside from her timely visits, it was Amelie's willingness to confront Gabriel’s lack of attention over important matters within their families that only ever wound up clashing with Gabriel's secrets, such as the subject of returning his and Emelie's wedding rings, the very items containing Adrien's amok, but were rings that were still very important to her too as they were originally part of the Graham De Vanily family, not the Agreste's.
In "Emotion", Amelie did eventually questioned why Gabriel had become so cruel after Emelie disappeared, but she never imagined he actually cared so little about her and Felix.
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When Felix set out his plan in "Emotion" to create a world free of anyone like Gabriel who would control others, it's shown at the end of the episode that he wanted his mom to open her eyes and realize that the people she thought were her family and friends, were all just monsters.
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Back in "Multiplication", when it was shown that Amelie was secretly hiding Felix at home after the events of "Strike back", Amelie never told anyone that Felix was never missing, and yet despite the heroes questioning and regardless of his actions in "Emotion", Amelie never saw Felix as the bad guy, partly because she was his mom, but also because she had a great deal of trust in knowing that whatever her son was doing, he had his reasons for doing it.
Of course, Felix's past actions would not be easily forgiven by the heroes, he still had to face the consequences when the time came for him to return to the public eye, but Felix's willingness to reveal his identity as Argos to his mom, likely meant that Amelie was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and trust her son on the matters of questioning who she was committing her life to.
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When Amelie showed up to the Diamonds Dance, Amelie pointed out that a search had taken place for Felix after he went "missing", but despite her hopes, Gabriel and the rest of his friends never reached out to her to offer a helping hand. It's unknown how much Felix told Amelie about what happened in "Risk" and "Strike back", but regardless, Amelie got the point of why her son wanted her to question Gabriel's lack of effort in helping her. Amelie made a lot of effort to show she still cared for Gabriel and Adrien, even after Emilie disappeared, but it was Gabriel's, and the rest of his club members, lack of compassion towards her struggles in "loosing" her son that finally made her realize she had wasted much of her life caring about members of a high society who never cared about her.
Felix's decision to show his mom the reality of her connections, and thereby ending them, might have been crushing for his mom, but odds are, the final straw Felix had in continuing to stand by and watch his mom waste her love on people who did not deserve it, was the secret hiding under the Agreste mansion, Emelie.
(The shock of finding Emelie's body under the Agreste mansion, was enough to nearly make Felix blow his cover when he was pretending to be Adrien in "Risk")
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In "Risk", Felix found Gabriel's secret underground lair, the very place Emelie's body was being contained, but at the time, Felix was only searching for the peacock miraculous, he never imagined Gabriel was secretly hiding Emelie's body under his mansion, and this was of course extremely horrifying to discover, because he and his mom thought Emelie just straight up disappeared one day, that no one, not even Gabriel, knew what happened to her. Adrien, Gabriel and Nathalie went through their own grief after Emelie was no longer able to be part of their lives, but for Amelie, that grief would have been just as terrible to bare when she found out she had lost her only sister. Much like Adrien, Amelie had to live with knowing that she had to accept that Emelie was just gone, she would never know what happened to her, and Felix was there by his mom's side when it all happened. It doesn't seem like Felix told his mom the truth about Emelie, but given the severity of it all, he didn't want her to suffer anymore grief over the truth about his aunt.
Felix holds a great deal of respect for his aunt Emelie and obviously would have had his share of grief when he thought she was gone forever, but to know that Gabriel hid the truth behind Emelie's disappearance from his mom, along with everyone else, never giving her the chance she needed to know what really happened to her only sister and say goodbye before she finally succumbed to her illness, must have infuriated Felix.
But to know that Gabriel would even go as far as making threats to get rid of him and leave his mom to suffer the loss of another loved one ("Gabriel Agreste"), all to obtain the ring that controls Adrien, and dissuade him from further pursuing his secret as Shadow Moth, only further convinced Felix that Gabriel was the one who had to disappear, before he made things any worse for his mom, himself and Adrien.
(In "Gabriel Agreste", Gabriel spoke through his sentiGabriel to threaten Felix. In this moment, Gabriel was no longer an ordinary uncle to Felix, he was a monster)
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lostuntothisworld · 2 months ago
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Why Adrien has 2 amoks Theory: He is his own twin sister
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Mister Bug: There will be a price to pay! Safari: I have nothing left to lose! Mister Bug: You do! You can lose yourself and the ones you love. You can lose anyone who loves you back. No matter who you are, there is always someone out there who loves you!
This is a theory I’ve mentioned before but it bears repeating now that we’re (hopefully) soon getting season 6.
There’s been some salt regarding the fact that Colt died so much later than Emilie, and it’s not unfounded. We don’t have an explanation for why two “identical” sentikids caused such different outcomes for their creators.
The Peacock Miraculous was broken by mysterious circumstances prior to Adrien’s creation, and I have a separate theory for that, but that’s not the point of this post.
The theory I propose is that Emilie did not create just one, but two sentimonster embryos.
We know there’s a rule that only one sentimonster can be made at a time, and maybe the second embryo created worsened the Peacock’s damage? Still haven’t ironed out the details with that yet.
Either way, Nathalie created many more sentimonsters than Emilie and Colt, she also seemed to succumb much faster after even the first sentimonster she created in Mayura. Emilie and Colt seem to be implied that they only had effects after a period of time.
Back to the theorized Adrien’s twin. What happened to them? Here’s where things get juicy.
There’s a tragic phenomenon that can happen in early multiple births, called Vanishing Twin Syndrome. It’s when an embryo passes away and leaves the second twin alone. The deceased twin is often called a sunset baby, and the surviving twin, a sunrise baby.
Typically the embryo is absorbed by the mother, or is passed, but there’s a second phenomenon called Human Chimerism where the embryo is absorbed by their twin embryo. If the twins are fraternal, that means the surviving twin has two sets of DNA.
Two amoks joined, two rings that can be combined into a single ring, and two embryos that fused together to create one child: Adrien Agreste.
Here’s where my silly theory starts to go off the rails. I think Adrien’s twin was created to be a girl. I have no evidence of any of this other than vibes, the ridiculous amount of twin characters in Miraculous, Ivan’s baggage with his baby sister (Ivan is Comerade Aioli while Adrien is Comerade Mayonnaise), and Argos calling Red Moon “his sister”.
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And then there’s the undeniable truth of Adrien’s treatment in the show, due to his inherent femininity.
And then we have ANOTHER phenomenon where Adrien has XX/XY Chimerism.
There are few intersex characters in fiction, and most of them are intersex due to mystical means. XX/XY Chimerism is rare, but it’s a real condition that actual humans in the real world can have. While Adrien was created through magic, he very much would have a real condition that exists in real life.
[Obligatory link for my meta about Sentikids being an allagory for intersex kids]
Now here’s where my crack spaghetti theory turns into speculation and where I’d personally go with the story. Going to warn you now that it gets a bit angsty. Something had to be sacrificed in order for the new Universe to be created afterall.
I’ve mentioned before many times that Gabemoth made the Wish before, if not multiple times, and the entirety of the ML is a 15 year timeloop.
Where I’d personally go with the story is that in Universe Zero, Adrien’s twin sister was born and is alive. And she held the Black Cat Miraculous, while her brother held the Ladybug Miraculous.
I’d personally name them Adrienne and Celeste Agreste. In their Universe, Gabriel also created Alliance rings, but instead they were called True Horizon. A play on the Sea meeting the Sky.
You can’t deny the Cat and the Ladybug BOTH being connected to Gabemoth isn’t something that would have been incredible storytelling.
Anyway, I digress.
In the finale, it isn’t the Ladybug who is alone, but the Black Cat. Gabriel has somehow found out the identities of the two heroes.
 Adrienne, in her righteous fury acts impulsively, but Gabemoth is two steps ahead of her.
Because Felix wasn’t created until a later Universe, Gabemoth is still in possession of the Peacock Miraculous. He snaps Adrienne’s twin brother from existence.
Gabemoth has either an akumatized villain or a sentimonster deliver the Ladybug miraculous to him.
In her shocked grief, Gabemoth takes Adrienne’s Black Cat Ring from her.
He makes his Wish, with Adrienne as a sacrifice… The Universe is Destroyed and Remade, and the next cycle continues.
This would give meta reason that Adrien wasn’t at the final battle: he hasn’t learned about the twin sister, the original Chat Noire that loves him so much, and still exists in his heart and DNA.
It can bring about an arc of Adrien FINALLY learning to love and accept himself, flaws and all, and take off the various masks he wears both in and out of costume.
It would ALSO give a reason for Adrien to wield both the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculous in a later major finale battle.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
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