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It's a bit above pay grade (more emotional bandwidth than intellectual understanding).
But been talking abt the age old fandom scenario abt Virgil and anxiety medication. And how there's nuances there depending on which class of medication we're talking about.
Like - talk therapies and serotonergics like SSRIs are better for folks who have more constant/chronic anxiety. And the way they work tends to take months/years to fully become effective (because they're giving your brain some building blocks to make healthier bridges with, aiming to slowly tame your anxiety to becoming more appropriate and manageable).
Benzos are extremely fast acting and potent - and are best used extremely short term and on an as needed basis (i.e. someone w/ acrophobia NEEDING to get on a flight for some reason, kinda deal; tho ideally they should be working on other strategies over time to not need the benzos forever). They're very appropriate for acute episodes of anxiety/panic.
But one of the main risks they pose is addiction, because the withdrawal symptoms can render them completely copeless. And this ramble got me thinking abt an intense what if, "What if c!Thomas is experiencing benzo (or other substance filling that specific need, w/ similar drawbacks) withdrawal? What would Virgil and the others be like?"
#sanders sides#virgil sanders#medication/#substance use disorder/#medical geekery#(in which sleep dep has me a tendency to /ramble/)#(i generally prefer the freedom of working in 'human/adjacent' aus...)#(but i do enjoy me some cognitive analysis and character work in canon divergent aus)#(there's obv less specifically psychiatric indications for benzos - such as dealing w/ muscle spasms and seizures)#(but i'm just focusing on the psych stuff here)
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Just wanna let my panic disorder and somnophobia folks know that it’s okay if you’re a grown ass adult and still need to hop in bed with your mum/dad/parent.
For me personally, I cannot sleep alone. Luckily I’ve found a way around it: weighted blanket, electric blanket, body pillow, background ambience of people, audiobook. This works for me, but it might not work for you.
Before I figured this out, I’m literally over 20 and my brother (6 years younger than me) would laugh at me because every night between 1 and 3AM I would run into my mother’s bedroom and get into bed with her because my panic attacks convince me that something is seriously medically wrong with me, that I’ll die painfully in the middle of the night or stop breathing in my sleep and that nobody will be around to help me.
He stopped laughing about it when he came into my room when I was already asleep (moments before a panic attack woke me up - he came in at 1AM roughly because he wanted his water bottle and I’d nicked it) and saw that I was thrashing around and making sounds of extreme distress.
The only way to calm me down would be to wake my mother up, get her to check my pulse/temperature, reassure me that my symptoms are just a panic attack and then have her hold me until I would fall asleep.
It’s a fucking nightmare and it’s embarrassing as hell, but you have to do whatever helps, and if that means being a grown man who still needs to be cuddled to sleep by his mother then so be it.
#mental health#panic attack#panic attack tips#panic disorder#somnophobia#sleep anxiety#medical anxiety#this is a source of shame for me so please be gentle#it’s okay to wake someone else up if you physically cannot handle the panic attack#I feel horrifically guilty whenever I need to wake my mum up#but at the end of the day she’s fine with being woken up if it means I’m not suffering#don’t let yourself feel like a burden#you’re not a burden
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Nightime Anxiety
Also called: Nocturnal Anxiety, Sleep Anxiety, and more
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Definition: Nighttime Anxiety, also known as Nocturnal Anxiety, is a type of anxiety that occurs during nighttime hours. It is characterized by feelings of fear, worry, and unease that may interfere with a person's ability to fall asleep or stay asleep.
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#Disorder#anxiety#anxiety disorder#disability#nighttime anxiety#Nocturnal Anxiety#Sleep Anxiety#neurodivergent#disability flag#disorder flag#pride flag#medically unrecognized disorder#mad pride#tags for reach →#mogai#mogai blog#mogai community#liom#mogai pride
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lol. i think ive reached my limit.
#i just cannot take this torture anymore#ive been at the mercy of this horrible disease for over half my life now#imagine living knowing that roughly every 3.5 weeks youre going to experience the most excruciating pain of your life#along with crushing. usually suicidal depression. and such extreme fatigue and exhaustion that you easily sleep for 14+ hours a DAY#AND ITS ALL FOR FUCKING *NOTHING*#there is literally ZERO benefit or reason for me to be experiencing this#it is 100% extraneous#and even if you go to a dr and try to get treatment their only recommendation is 1) pain killers and/or 2) birth control#which both come with their own fucking share of unpleasant side effects#not to mention theyre not even 100% effective at stopping the problem in the first FUCKING place#and imagine even tho you have this DEBILITATING DISORDER society at large has decided it straight up DOESNT EXIST#to the point where REAL ACTUAL MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS will dismiss your symptoms#not to mention people in your life who dont understand or just straight up dont believe your disorder is real#good luck keeping a job or any other major commitments#considering you'll either be out of commission for like. 1 out of ever 4 weeks#or youll have to work/whatever WHILE experiencing said excruciating pain/crushing depression/debilitating exhaustion#not to mention the GI issues and the migraines and the brain fog and the fucking. full body aches#wanna go to a concert? or plan a vacation? or just. fucking. RELAX? you better hope its not during Hell Week or youre outta luck#and youve got roughly 30-40 YEARS of this to look forward to#maybe less IF YOURE LUCKY#im fucking over it#i cant take it anymore#im making an appt to see a dr and i WILL NOT LEAVE THEIR OFFICE until they have referred me to whoever i have to talk to to make this stop#my fucking fury at having to live like this has officially outweighed my fear of invasive procedures/recovery time/side effects#let along the torture that is navigating the medical care system as an AFAB#i just. i cant do this anymore.#i want to fucking LIVE#fuck
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Sessions with the brain-fixer and solutions
So, my nightmares from medical trauma have not been fun. I know this is my brain's way of trying to process everything that's happened, but the sleep disturbance is hard to deal with. I'll have a run of good sleep, and then nightmares busting out of the cracks. My shrink tells me it's more common than anyone imagines. She's a good shrink, very to the point, and constantly tells me that the things I am going through - as much as they suck - are normal.
It's comforting not to be the only one.
The last round of nightmares edged into night terrors with a side of waking paralysis. Spiders, claustrophobia, missing cats, then in the dream I watched black tumors erupting from my body and knew I was dying. I couldn't use lucid dreaming, the terror was too overwhelming for thought, I just managed to wake myself up. I was awake for hours, even switching from bed to couch didn't send me back to sleep. I didn't want to take a Ramelteon (works on serotonin receptors and is non-addictive) or an Ativan (asked Onco to order me a couple for my MRI because of claustrophobia and now have a bottle of 120), so I was up from 2:00AM onwards.
Nightmares can't find me during the day. Naps are great. :)
So, she wants me to try neurofeedback - a kind of biofeedback. Biofeedback has always struck me as the wooiest woo, but I am old and now it's an evidence-based treatment. I'll give it a shot, but in the meantime my gabapentin dose gets a bump.
I can't believe that in these times, people want to censor talk about mortality, death, dying, and the process of disease, treatment, and so on. Skip the next paragraph if you're that extra.
I talked with her about The End. I said it was kind of comforting to have a general idea of what would kill me. I am okay with the concept of my mortality. It's not the end, but getting there that's the Big Scary. I've seen that part of the trip. I've prepared for it was much as possible, but in the end... well... we find out, don't we? Only 15 percent of people diagnosed with my type and stage of cancer come out the other end of chemo and radiation. Twenty people walk into a room and three will walk back out. I am deeply grateful to have had two-plus years of life when I wasn't sure that I would see my 56th birthday. It's been a lovely surprise.
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Well, I have learned that the recommended dose of melatonin gummies only works for ONE night, maybe two.
After 3 nights of the recommended dose, I have developed a general lack of physical emotional responses, loss of interest in everything I enjoy, and I am drifting in and out of drowsiness like a zombie. It feels like I’m back on Zoloft like I was as a kid. NOT FUN!
Anyway, I didn’t take any last night and breathed a sigh of relief when my nightmares came back. Hopefully, the creative juices aren’t far behind.
CLOSING MY EYES AND THEN WAKING UP WITH NOTHING IN BETWEEN WAS SO SCARY!
Most people: Melatonin heightens my dreams and emotions!
Me: The rollercoaster is a flatline and night dreaming AND daydreaming are impossible.
I am going to let myself re-adjust and then only take it when I’m REALLY struggling to sleep, never for multiple days in a row. One gummy instead of two.
The pains of being AuDHD when literally every recommended dose is an overdose on you because of how your body reacts.
It’s probably going to take until Saturday to feel completely me again, but I hope I feel back to usual tomorrow.
#melatonin#audhd#actually autistic#actually audhd#adhd#gummies#sleeping#nightmares#emotional blunting#rollercoaster is flatlined#zombie#oops#also apparently you aren’t supposed to take it multiple days in a row if you take a medication for an autoimmune disorder#DOUBLE OOPS#lack of energy#drowsy#constantly tired
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guys. on top of the narcolepsy, i apparently now have mild rem-onset SLEEP APNEA. the universe was like, "you're (SOMEHOW) not sleepy enough already" and gave me TWO SLEEP DISORDERS. what kind of curse is this.
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wondering why im so fucking sleepy for no reason then remembered I forgot to take my meds for 3 days
#how did i live in this world unmedicated like#i have always been this sleepy and tired all the time i just thought it was a personal flaw#taking adhd meds actually made me so#idk when i first had it i coulsnt stop telling my friends how awesome it was to be awake#its like theres no longer a heavy cloud over my consciousness 80% of the time#i could actually read books without dozing off it was amazing ..#so why did i forget...idk i just forgot. i have the forgot disorder#tbh a few months ago id know if i forgot my meds bc I'd just suddenly get sleepy in the middle of the day#these few days i just attributed it to academic stress and lack of sleep and what not but it only just occured to me like#uh#5 min ago#that this is how i feel without medication#cool. cool. i forgot about my brain condition and accidentally slept my whole morning away instead of writing my reports#its actually crazy to me that i need external influences to function normally like i need my awake pills#caffeiene doesnt even do shit for me#i need my stupid fucking cocaine#sorry im just angry at myself again for 1)wasting away hours being sleepu#2)forgot my meds made me remember my debuff. a reminder that i cant ever be normal#adhd is fun except when its not fun then. it fucking sucks#its only good for yapping
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wwx has bipolar disorder I know this in my heart
#enough about adhd wei wuxian we all know he has adhd#i think he should also be bipolar!!!#they are often comorbid!!!#idk i just think about his yiling laozu days#and how he was probably going through manic and depressive episodes#throwing himself into creating inventions for days on end barely sleeping or eating#or holing away in his cave for days. drowning in self loathing and refusing to drag himself out of bed#all of this exacerbated by all the trauma he's experienced and his already volatile emotional state#whenever i write wwx please know im writing him with this in mind#especially in a modern au. if he's functioning at all in a modern au it is because one of his loved ones dragged his ass to therapy#and got him medicated#i have a modern au where jc and wwx live together#and despite driving each other nuts it's better for their mental health#bc jiang cheng's abandonment issues can be abated somewhat with wwx's company#and wwx's mental health is better bc jc forces him to stay on top of his meds#these tags are getting long. anyway. binghe has bpd and wwx has bipolar what b disorder does hua cheng have
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When your anxiety, social anxiety, depression, adhd, autism, past eating disorders, lack of sleep, INFJ straits, and forgetfulness towards taking medication come together and you're just like:
#social anxiety#anxiety#depression#adhd#adhd problems#autism#neurodivergent#past eating disorders#infj thoughts#infj#lack of sleep#I forgot to take my medication#memes
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ahghdsfjhdsfa sorry guys i forgot i had an anxiety disorder and have been doing nothing to manage it for a week 👍will probably have more energy after i remember how to deal with this
#was wondering why i was waking up into a panic attack and then feeling tired all day after for a week straight#straight up forgot an entire anxiety disorder#regular art/horseposting will resume shortly 🙇♂️#*doesn't sleep* *in a constant state of fight/flight* *dealing with medical/academic/financial stress* man why am i tired. must be lazy.
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i think my coworkers and friends think its a little excessive that Im so militant about my sleep schedule but its hard to describe the extent to which the terrors fucking get me if my circadian rhythm is even a little fucked up
#see. if i fall asleep by 10:45 or so usually the RLS doesnt start up#but if i drink a coffee too late. or im out late. or stressed. or dont get much sleep the night before#it puts me at precipitous risk of getting fucking got#and then its genuinely some of the worst suffering i ever experience... crying pacing self medicating panicking etc etc etc#would take food poisoning over a bad RLS night easy. at least inbetween the vomiting you can sometimes get some rest#rn trialing a med that totally zonks me during the day but its worth it as a PRN cause otherwise ill be zonked ND a bitch if i dont sleep#to delete#resident good#my coworker like.... you wont even go out to dinner before a work day? not if its after 9PM bro otherwise theres a chance i Will Not Sleep#and not only that I WILL suffer the whole time#man Im frustrated too! I wish I wasnt like this but thats the bitch of living with a poorly understood movement disorder!
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I want so badly for adults to understand me. Very deeply. I hope there's a day I walk into a new pharmacy and they look at me with my tattoos and my black lipstick and not see someone who abuses these medications I've taken since adolescence. I hope so deeply I do not need to convince any new doctor of my ailments. I crave so completely to have the whole world explained to me in diligent detail so I can understand.
I am 25 years old. And I do not see myself as an adult. I feel like a nervous child who, in tears, begs to be understood, and to understand. To have them see no malice in my mistakes.
I want everyone I come across to accept the olive branches I am carrying by the bundle.
I feel lost at sea. Starving, exhausted, sleep deprived, and in pain. Watching the boats turn their noses up at my decaying being, and pass me by.
#personal#disabilities#disability#medication#mental health medication#pharmacy#sleep deprived#mental health#mental instability#mental illness#mentally ill#chronic pain#agoraphobia#PTSD#bad parenting#bad parents#discrimination#goth problems#agoraphobic#borderline personality disorder#bpd#bpd vent#disability vent#vent post#venting#vent
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i've had such bad insomnia these last few weeks and honestly by this point i'm just embracing it lol. if im gonna be up til 3-4 AM i may as well get some work done or have some fun yk
#maddie meows#literally anything but tossing and turning while desperately willing myself to sleep!!!#it's also so close to the weekend now that it's like yayy no consequences#what's gonna happen to me?? i'll be tired??? i'm literally ALWAYS tired i have a chronic fatigue disorder!!!!!!!#if i wanna do something that turns me into slightly more of a shriveled husk than usual that is my prerogative#also i straight up do not want to go to the doctor for sleep meds lol#asking for new medication is such an undignified experience... i hate it dearly.#either melatonin will start working for me again or i'll just stop sleeping forever creepypasta style. i'd be so productive that way
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How do you deal with doctors that are incompetent? /hj
I am pretty sure I’ve been dismissed from the care of the sleep specialists cuz my overnight study was normal and so I apparently don’t have a sleep disorder. From what I’ve read, the PSG can only rule out sleep apnea and restless legs, not narcolepsy and idiopathic hypersomnia - you need an MSLT for that. But my doc also said that I can’t have narcolepsy because I don’t fall asleep suddenly or have a full body collapse when I laugh, and I can’t have IH because I don’t sleep 16-20.
So the summary of my advice? Improve sleep hygiene. While I appreciate that can help to a degree, I’m upset that I have basically been told that I can only get better if I live my life flawlessly - I should sleep 10pm to 8am, can’t be in bed unless I’m sleeping (so screw me if I’m in pain - also I don’t rly have anywhere to go when I’m not in bed that won’t also increase my pain significantly), do activities to stimulate my brain (except everything I do makes me more tired), exercise (I said that makes me more tired), should only nap between 1-2pm (I normally get a sleepiness wave around 3pm) and only for 30-45 mins.
There are parts of this I will try like the nap duration and maybe moving my sleep time backwards, but idk how I’m expected to do all of this, especially because this isn’t my only issue. And it ticks me off that I didn’t even get thorough testing and that my concerns about N and IH were dismissed because I am not the textbook stereotype. It felt like they gave up and just told me to sleep better and all my problems would go away. Idk, I plan to eventually go back to the GP because I get the feeling my tiredness won’t go away, but I don’t know what to do to not loop back to this same situation. Maybe ask for a neurological sleep specialist? Pretty sure the one I had was a respiratory sleep specialist, which is the only reason I can hold any degree of grace.
I know there is a chance I don’t have N or IH, but I don’t feel confident in moving on when I haven’t had the proper testing for it and my lead doctor also dismissed me because I don’t fit the textbook example of narcolepsy or IH (not to mention he spoke like N with cataplexy is the only type that exists).
#medical rant#narcolepsy#idiopathic hypersomnia#sleep disorder#sleep disorders#chronic illness#chronically ill#long post#vent#nagichi talks
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Yea I didn’t rly acknowledge it continuing off that post you need to be normal about people who do drugs recreationally as well as addicts especially if you’re a self proclaimed leftist
#charlie talks#I was gonna quit smoking a little while ago bc I was stressed and dependent on it#what I really needed to do was dump my ex but I digress I hadn’t done it yet and was scared to#but I was clean for a month before breaking my sobriety#and I had two friends I told in the car and one was like oh charlie :(#and the other was like THATS SO BAD. CHARLIE OH MY GOD. NO THATS SO BAD WHY DID U DO THAT#PSA! don’t do that#and like what kinda question is that. I smoke when I’m stressed and I was stressed#well I used to now I’m chillin with it#obviously it would only be a positive if I quit but like again I’m chillin I’m otherwise healthy#it helps my appetite (I have history with eating disorders as well as food ocd and probably autism)#it helps me sleep (insomnia and chronic nightmares) and it do help me chill (I have crazy bad anxiety)#so hey it may not be the best fix for those things but I’m in control#pot especially is only mentally addictive#trust me I’ve had withdrawal from several medications before#also if your friend is struggling with anything harder than pot like you need to be calm and patient#otherwise they’re gonna go home and have another hit you dumbass!
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