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cassiansrebels · 1 year ago
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❝she's a rebel.❞
💭 andor monologues:
maarva andor's funeral speech
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flythesail · 2 years ago
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I've seen a lot of "there was no reason for Luthen to be on Ferrix other than to just Be There." Especially since he had two fully competent and trustworthy people already there on Ferrix.
But that's the point! Kleya doesn't think he should go either. The point is he shouldn't go, doesn't have to go, and he does anyway.
It's like he can't take a backseat to this. It's a situation he already technically has control of and he still wants to be the one in control by being there.
He says in an earlier episode, "I'm not slipping, Kleya. I've just been hiding for too long." In the finale, he gets out there to see it all for himself.
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serceleste · 24 days ago
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andor
So I FINALLY watched Andor and damn it was good, I can't believe I waited so long to watch it, it honestly reminded me that yes, I still love Star Wars, actually, and just... it was SO GOOD.
Here's some random thoughts! Many spoilers!
love that the main villains were mostly ISB agents because I've always thought the ISB is terrifying so I think it's amazing Andor made use of that
Bee!!! Thank you for giving me another droid I would die for. He was sad about Maarva! He didn't want to leave!!! 😭😭😭😭
The writing was so good, especially for Star Wars, so many banger lines. Cassian's "I would rather die trying to take them down than live giving them what they want" now lives rent free in my mind.
I wanted Andy Serkis (sorry, Kino Loy) to live SO BAD, his "I can't swim" wrecked me.
More Mon Mothma! Wonderful getting so much depth to her as a politician, a Rebel, and as a woman.
I LOVED how much it delved into the grit of the Rebellion, of what it actually would have been like trying to fight that war, of the sacrifices and choices made. The fact that there was someone like Luthen deciding what assets were the most valuable and what lives could be lost in order to protect them, that fifty deaths were acceptable if it would protect an asset in the ISB, that there were people like Cinta who would do ANYTHING for the Rebellion and sacrifice anyone because the Rebellion had to come first, who wouldn't blink twice at murdering Cassian if Luthen said it had to happen.
They brought Saw back!
I adore that random guy in the tower, banging away <3
Everything about the funeral sequence was brilliant
Luthen and his ISB asset, that speech he made about what he had sacrificed, A++++
Bix was so fucking beautiful and the way she was tortured fucked me up.
Goddamn but Syril is a fucking weirdo
I also loved that because it was very much a show about being on the ground in the days of the Empire that it showed what life was like, that Cassian could be in the wrong place at the wrong time and wind up with a ridiculous prison sentence for not really doing much of anything. Watching him and the other prisoners stuck in that mindless factory and always threatened with torture and death was so rough, and how conditioned they had become to just do it, just get by, because they'll get out eventually, and then to realize that no one was actually getting out!
And of course that they were building for the Death Star because OF COURSE they were. And it being Cassian just made that so much more of a gut punch.
I really liked Vel, like, a lot.
Finally, Cassian is just so beautiful and so sad and so determined and I want him to have everything and I want him to have people love him to happiness đŸ„șđŸ„șđŸ„ș😭😭😭
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hermitmoss · 1 year ago
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Disability Pride flag + Star Wars
Image description: 7 panels toned in the colours of the disability pride flag, with text indicating their meanings, with backdrops of Disabled characters in Star Wars.
1: A black-toned panel that says "BLACK" and "commemoration + mourning". The pictures are of a community carrying out a funeral march for Maarva Andor, a Disabled leader and organiser, Hera Syndulla mourning Kanan Jarrus, her Blind spouse, and Poe Dameron mourning Leia Organa, a Disabled woman and leader.
2: A green-toned panel that says "GREEN" and "sensory disabilities". The pictures are of Kanan Jarrus and Chirrut Îmwe, both Blind people.
3: A blue-toned panel that says "BLUE" and "emotional + psychiatric disabilities". The pictures are of Obi-wan Kenobi and Reva Sevander, who both have mental health disabilities that include flashbacks, and of Leia Organa, whose actress was bipolar, and who described herself and Leia as being so similar it was hard to tell where one ended and the other began.
4: A gold-toned panel that says "GOLD" and "neurodiversity". The pictures are of Theron Shan, who has a different neurotype to the one he was expected to at birth, Hardcase, who has hyperactivity, and Yoda (who is also a mobility aid user) and Jedi younglings, who all have a different neurotype (Force-sensitivity) from the norm. In the picture of Yoda and the younglings, he is talking about how he values how their minds work differently from other peoples'.
5: A red-toned panel that says "RED" and "physical disabilities". The pictures are of Saw Gerrera, an amputee who uses supplementary oxygen and a staff as a mobility aid, Weazel, who has dwarfism, Luke Skywalker, an amputee, and Lando Calrissian, a cane user.
6: A white-toned panel that says "WHITE" and "invisible + undiagnosed [disabilities]". The pictures are of Finn, who was unaware of his neurodivergence for the first decades of his life, Cere Junda, who has trauma, and Greez Dritus, who has an addiction.
7: A black-toned panel that says "BLACK" and "rage, protest + rebellion". The pictures are of Chirrut Îmwe and Kanan Jarrus fighting in the Rebellion against the Galactic Empire, Reva Sevandar fighting against one of its enforcers, screaming in rage at somebody who traumatised her, Maarva Andor giving a posthumous speech encouraging rebellion, and Leia Organa giving orders to Rebellion fighters who are about to engage the Empire. /End.
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petals42 · 2 years ago
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okay but ANDOR you guys.
I just watched the last episode (spoilers) and I just cannot get over it. These lines "Remember this. Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they've already enlisted in the cause. Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward." from Nemik and then they are proven SO TRUE
Like in the last episode, it really struck me how little Cassian mattered-- okay, obviously he mattered, he saves Bix in the midst of all the chaos and it is his show and i'm obsessed with him so of COURSE my boy mattered but--
But so much of the rebellion is not because of him. he doesn't get a big action star moment or dramatic speech or direct role in the rebellion of Ferrix--tbh, he is less involved than he was in the prison break.
instead his success is directly linked to OTHERS spontaneously deciding to revolt. It's maarva's speech, yes, but it's also the town deciding to have the funeral at noon, like they wanted, instead of the time on their permit; it's them bringing many more than 40 people. it's the boy who made the bomb (who i THINK is the son of the man who was tortured and then hung, apologies for not remembering his name); it's brasso just swinging that brick for all he's worth; it's the man running up to start the anvil/gong sound again and just pushing off the storm trooper who tries to stop him; it's this little chain of rebellions-- literally none at all organized by any kind of higher power or group-- that made it so Cassian could save Bix, and escape to join the rebellion and ITS JUST SO GOOD.
I am just obsessed with this show. i want season 2 out immediately.
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andorshitdaily · 8 months ago
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Phoenix stole my absolute fave moment with Mon trapped in the hexagon of evil, so a few faves that happen in just seconds: Andor showing the true mental toll the empire take by showing Cassian fully dissociating his first night on the bridge in Narkina Luthen realising "oh fuck she's speaking my language, this is what it's really about" during Maarva's speech the whole entire weight of the galaxy's future and her own soul's damnation weighing on Mon after Sculdun leaves Dedra's smug face against Blevin when Partagaz says she was right (in short) Dedra evil face twitch when questioning Bix Adria's stellar acting of hearing children being genocided as a torture method the Velcinta handhold (LET THEM KISS DISNEY YOU COWARDS!) Nemik's manifesto narrating Cassian's come to antifa moment in the rain in the ship the night before Maarva's funeral
you challenged me and i accepted the challenge.
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(you know i can't just pick one of those)
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okay i'm tired now
Tell me your favorite Andor quote or screenshot because I'm bored and I miss it!
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claudia1829things · 3 months ago
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"ANDOR" Season One (2022) Commentary
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"ANDOR" SEASON ONE (2022) COMMENTARY
Ever since Season One of the Lucasfilm series, "ANDOR" was released on the DisneyPlus streaming channel, it has received a great deal of accolades and high praise. In fact, the series is now regarded as one of the best productions from the STAR WARS franchise, if not the best.
I find this high regard ironic, considering how many STAR WARS fans had reacted to Disney Studios' announcement about a series focused around the character of Cassian Andor, from the 2016 hit film, "ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY". Many were not happy. I, on the other hand, had looked forward to the series. Not only had I been a major fan of "ROGUE ONE", I had regarded both the Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso characters as one of the film's highlights. So, when I finally sat in front of my television series and watched an episode of "ANDOR" unfold each week during the fall of 2022, my reaction resulted in . . . hmmm, mixed feelings?
Season One of "ANDOR" certainly had its highlights. I admired the excellent performances from a cast led by the very talented Diego Luna. I thought showrunner Tony Gilroy's portrayal of a corrupt and violent Galactic Empire seemed pretty spot on. In fact, Gilroy's portrayal of the galaxy at this point in the timeline pretty much matched his, Chris Weitz and director Gareth Edwards' portrayal of the galaxy in "ROGUE ONE". Although the 1980 movie, "STAR WARS: EPISODE FIVE - THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" was the first STAR WARS film to portray its protagonists ambiguously, the ambiguous portrayal of the Rebel Alliance first appeared in "ROGUE ONE". Gilroy continued this ambiguity of the Rebel Alliance in the "ANDOR" series. Season One featured scenes that impressed me very much. They included Cassian Andor’s escape from Ferrix in the third episode, (1.03) "Reckoning"; the Rebels Alliance of heist of the payroll of the Imperial garrison on Aldhani in (1.06) "The Eye"; and Cassian’s rescue of Bix and the anti-Imperial riot on Ferrix. Featured in (1.12) "Rix Road", the season finale. But the sequence featuring his stint at the Narkina 5 prison and especially his escape in (1.10) "One Way Out" nearly struck me as brilliant.
Despite these virtues, Season One of "ANDOR" also featured issues that I either found questionable or simply did not work for me. The season's narrative structure of a group of three (or four) episodes per arc barely worked for me. I say barely, because the arcs still managed to form one season-long arc. But it did so in a way that some of the episodes felt like mere padding. And this proved to be one of my main problems with "ANDOR". As I have stated before, the first two episodes could have merged into one. And the fourth and fifth episodes could have merged into one. I also believe that the seventh episode could have merged into the eighth one. For me, twelve episodes seemed like too much for the narrative featured in the series. And I found some of the episodes' endings rather abrupt and problematic. This especially seemed to be the case with the earlier episodes.
I still find myself wondering about the purpose behind those flashbacks featuring Cassian Andor’s childhood in the first two episodes were about, other than revealing his origins. But why feature flashbacks of his past, when they had no real impact on the season’s main narrative? Also, the last two episodes seemed anti-climactic to me. This especially seemed to be the case for "Rix Road", the season's finale. One might questioned this opinion, considering "Rix Road" featured the funeral of Maarva Andor, the protagonist's adoptive mother, her pre-recorded speech bashing the Galactic Empire, the riot that followed and the Rebel Alliance's attempt to kill Cassian before the Empire could capture him. The reason I found all of this anti-climatic is that the series' protagonist had played little or no role in these incidents. During all of these events, Cassian was busy trying to rescue his captured close friend, Bix Caleen, from the Empire's Imperial Security Bureau (ISB). Cassian's rescue of his friend proved to be a lot less difficult than I had assumed it would be. And the Rebel Alliance had decided not to kill him at the last moment.
Speaking of "Rix Road", it had provided one aspect of "ANDOR" that really annoyed me. The episode had paused its narrative to convey Maarva Andor's pre-recorded speech against the Empire. But this was not the first time something like this happened. Two or three times, the series paused the story in order for a character to give this great speech or monologue on the evils of fascism and tyranny. It almost felt as if Tony Gilroy was trying to shove politics down our throats. I am not one of those yahoos who constantly complain about "woke" politics in pop culture movies and TV. But the numerous pauses that resulted in a monologue or speech really got on my nerves. George Lucas managed to do the same with two lines in two separate movies. One line came from the mouth of Princess Leia Organa in "STAR WARS: EPISODE FOUR - A NEW HOPE". Her mother, Senator Padmé Amidala, had uttered an even more famous line in "STAR WARS: EPISODE THREE - REVENGE OF THE SITH". Two separate lines. It seemed a pity that Gilroy was unable to do the same.
My last major issues regarding "ANDOR" revolved around the characters of Syril Karn, a security inspector for a corporate conglomerate and Senator Mon Mothma of the Imperial Senate. Karn spent the first two episodes investigating the deaths of two fellow security officers killed by Cassian on Morlana One. The security officer's investigation led to his violent encounter with Cassian on Ferrix during the third episode, (1.03) "Reckoning". Following Cassian's escape, Karn spent the next nine episodes developing two obsessions - finding and capturing Cassian and developing a romantic (if you want to call it that) fixation for ISB Agent Dedra Meero, while he continuously engaged in verbal combat with his domineering mother. After wasting away for eight episode, Karn learned about Maarva Andor's death and decided to travel to Ferrix to snatch Cassian. Only . . . he never encountered his prey. Not once. Karn only ended up saving Agent Meero from angry rioters. One could say this was a lead up to Karn joining the ISB. But this all felt like such a waste. Perhaps Gilroy could have allowed Karn to be an ISB agent from the beginning. This could have allowed him to take a more active role in the season's narrative.
Finally we come to Senator Mon Mothma of Chandrila. I had assumed her presence in the series would be a repeat of her presence in "ROGUE ONE" - simply there to fill in the role as one of the Rebel Alliance's leaders. Instead, Gilroy provided an in-depth look into her private life and her efforts to keep her role as one of the Rebels' leaders a secret. To my surprise, Senator Mothma's arc came dangerously close to dominating this series . . . in which Cassian served as the main protagonist. The worst part - at least for me - is that her arc had no real impact on Cassian’s arc. Or served as any kind of catalyst to Cassian’s arc during this first season.
I find this ironic, considering the numerous complaints lobbied at 2022's "OBI-WAN KENOBI" limited series over the strong presence of the Reva Sevander character. What many have forgotten was that Reva's experiences during the Order 66 purge had led her to seek revenge against former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader. Reva's quest for revenge led her to use both the 10 year-old Princess Leia and former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi to achieve it. Her actions ended up serving as a catalyst for Obi-Wan's character arc in the series. Senator Mothma had no such impact on Cassian Andor's arc. Hell, she never met him in person in any of the season's twelve episodes. The only connection they had was Mothma's cousin Vel Sartha, who had led Cassian and others in the Aldhani heist. If Tony Gilroy and Lucasfilm had wanted a heavy emphasis on Senator Mothma that badly, they could have made her serve as the catalyst for Cassian's recruitment into the Rebel Alliance, not Luthen Rael. Or they could have created a separate limited series for her. Tony Gilroy, Lucasfilm and many critics and fans had forgotten the name of this series, which is "ANDOR"; not "THE REBEL ALLIANCE", "REBELS II" or "MOTHMA".
Ever since I had expressed my complaints about Season One of "ANDOR", many have accused me of not liking the series. As if my opinions of it was a damn crime or something. One, I am entitled to my opinion of any movie, television series or any other form of entertainment. Due to my positive opinion of the Cassian Andor character, I had hoped to really enjoy "ANDOR". Unfortunately, that never happened. The first season possessed enough virtues for me to like it. But I believe it also possessed enough flaws for me not to regard it as highly as many others have. Frankly, I believe Season One of "ANDOR" proved to be one of the most overrated productions created by Lucasfilm.
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unitedfrontvarietyhour · 6 months ago
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Maarva's Andor's funeral speech from Andor, S1E12 "Rix Road"
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adidegmez · 8 months ago
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I watched andor. I liked it.
Andor and Rogue One Spoilers...
Cassian is a good guy but he kills people. I understand why he killed on rogue one he just followed orders(he was being a good soldier😕)And the speech he gave to jyn when he explained they were following orders they were doing all the bad things for the rebellion, for th greater good.They knew what they were doing was wrong but they belived in the rebellion and did what they said to them. But i still dont like that he killed a lot of people, other than that, I liked Cassian.
Seeing people rise up for themselves, i like it. I really love rebellions. And Andor gave us rebellion in sw universe.
I think syril and deedra was useless i didnt like them.
Cassians promise in the last episode. Did he keep his promise? I know he died in rogue one but will there be a season 2. And that season will maybe tell us what did cassian did between the movie and season 1. Did he find his sister? maybe that season they can give some answers. well maybe they answered but i am new to this universe so i dont know if they did.
Luthen's converstation to Lonni. It is sad but true. Luthen is so cool. But he did so many bad things to save the days he will never see. And some good people became what they swore to destroy and Luthen is one of those people.
Prison scenes were good when they got out i was so happy. but Kino didnt come with cassian and melshi what happend to him after that?
Nemik's manifesto did Cassian read it? so amny questions ı hope there will be a season 2.
Maarva's funeral was good to. Show's effects were so good but in storytelling there were something that not right or there should be more to it.
This article was very messy but I sent it without editing. Because while I was writing this article, I finished Star Wars 5. I finished Rogue One and Star Wars 4 yesterday. There are things I need to write about them before I forget.
I have one last question, mon mathma was lider of the rebellion in rebels but in andor she is not yet. I was watching Star Wars chronologically and according to the order I watched rebels was before andor. does it take place simultaneously, like the clone wars and Star Wars 3?
In the end i liked the show and it's tone. i'll probably start writing about rogue one tomorrow .
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authoreeknight · 2 years ago
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Stellan SkarsgÄrd bringing every iota of his acting game to the funeral speech scene. Without a line of dialogue. Frame 1: Watching the Imperial and local activity searching for any trace of a wake left by Cassian Andor. Frame 2: He's caught up in Maarva's self-eulogy. Frame 3: He knows, before anyone, what's about to happen. Frame 4: Realizing that he, in this place, at this time, is about to see the first hint of light of that sunrise he won't live to see. No pieces carefully arranged on a chessboard. Not an "op." Not a work of political engineering. A community that's done with the Empire.
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littlecarjaflame · 2 years ago
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Just a couple of Andor-related thoughts I need to get out of my head (don’t mind me :))
1) The sheer brilliance of having Maarva deliver her rousing speech from beyond the grave. If she did this while alive, the Empire would’ve been able to hurt her, break her. But what are you going to do to her now? She is already dead. She is a ghost. You can’t hurt her. (Also ties in beautifully with what Nemik says about freedom being an idea)
1a) Brasso using Maarva’s brick to hit an Imperial in the face was tacky and on the nose, and so, so satisfying.
1b) Kino Loy was the parallel to this. He knew he was already dead when they started the prison break. Once he realized they were not letting him go, he was dead. So, like Maarva, he went all in.
2) I still believe that Han shot first. On that note, there is no doubt that Cassian always shoots first. It is remarkable, how absolutely ruthless all the supposed good guys are. Cassian kills almost as an afterthought, he rarely knocks people out, he goes in for the kill and does it with terrifying efficiency - his first scene in Rogue One was not an exception stemming from desperate measures, it was his standard MO. Look at Skeen. Even at Maarva’s funeral, there is no scene of him stopping what he’s doing to listen to his mother’s last message. He just keeps going, because he has a job to do. Cassian looks hot and cute and burns with love for his friends, but he will not hesitate to end anyone in his way. Not for a second.
2a) Cassian is not the only one. Vel is pretty much the only person who does not have laser focus on the cause and everything else be damned. Luthen doesn’t even try to hide it. Kleya is so cold and calculating, she puts Luthen to shame. Mon acts high and mighty, but in the end, she throws her husband and her daughter under the bus. Cinta barely even looks at Vel when there is work to be done. And once again - this is the same franchise, which had Luke quitting his Jedi training and racing off to save his friends, which had Anakin abandoning all his beliefs for love. I have not seen every bit of SW media out there, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the sheer coldness and ruthlessness of Andor characters is unprecedented.
3) Cassian is not the hero of this story. He is the protagonist (or one of the protagonists, maybe?), but he is not the hero. I fully expected him to have a big moment in the finale, showing up, leading a riot maybe? But they went a different route, and one much more fitting to the character. When you think about it, in the end the Empire doesn’t even have proof that he actually was on Ferrix, except for what someone told them. Cassian stays hidden, ties up the loose ends, and slips out of Ferrix as if he had never been there.
This is an origin story, but not one of a hero. Cassian is not a leader, he never takes the front seat. He is the grey eminence, the person behind the Kino Loys and Jyn Ersos, not necessarily manipulating the leaders themselves, but pulling the strings, so that the leader figure can (that is, has the soldiers and a ship to go on Scarif) and will (that is, asking him is that the best you have to spur him on). From a writing standpoint, this is difficult to pull off, because a character like this is, by definition, not in the spotlight. But even though it wobbles slightly (for a show named after him, Cassian gets surprisingly little screen time and at the beginning he is rather passive protagonist), the writers come through in the end.
3a) Sometimes, I like to think that the titular “Andor” is actually Maarva.
4) Once again, I haven’t seen all the SW shows, but what I love about Andor is that they show us the Empire side of things. Not only the big players, the villains, but ordinary Imperial officers. And they are human. They have loyalty to each other, personalities, nagging mothers, obsessions, dreams. Even though they are still at core bad people, they are people. There is a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it shot during the prison escape, when a bunch of guards is cowering in what looks like a utility cabinet, keeping as quiet as they can, sweating and trembling, while outside the door, the prisoners are running. You know Syrill - he is the guy which makes the hair on the back of your neck stand. For Dedra, I loved a little scene in one of the early episodes, where she was going over some reports with one of her underling, and the underling suggests that they can stay a little longer to work some more. She doesn’t bully him into staying late, she doesn’t even hint that he should. And yet he offers. A nameless, completely unimportant person shows agency, making him, with one line, more than an anonymous extra.
5) The irony in this show is something so darkly hilarious, I can’t help to chuckle at points. Sometimes it can be a little heavy-handed, like Nemik being literally killed by the stolen money or Cassian building parts of the Death Star, but this show has so many subtle ironic moments. Cassian taking part in the Aldhani heist, so that he can escape Ferrix with his mother, is exactly what motivates his mother to stay. The prisoners are able to orchestrate the escape, because the working program forces them into cooperating - you can see it, they work as a well-oiled machine. The Empire looking all over for a man who is sitting in one of their own prisons. And so on and so on...
5a) Syrill and Dedra are absolutely played as a twist of the stalker-y Twilight-y kind of romance, complete with the lines like I’d never lie to you and just being in your presence, I realized life was worth living. Look me in the eye and tell me that it is not straight out of a trashy romance - and Dedra reacts to him the way any sane woman would. That wasn’t a conversation, you were brought in for questioning. They are highlighting how creepy some of these romances are, and I am here for it.
5b) The irony, along with the main theme of the show (”the surprise from below”), climaxes beutifully in the finale. Everyone is so obsessed with Cassian, where he is and whether he is coming, that they don’t notice the rebellion brewing under their feet. Dedra says she wants a funeral, without realizing it is the last thing she needs. Even when it starts, she is running around, looking up where she thinks Cassian is, and not looking down. And for this exact reason, I think the most potentially dangerous antagonist in the show is Syrill. Because he is the only one who looks down, who recognizes the danger of Cassian Andor (partly because he is also one of the ordinary people). He is set up to be mocked, with his obsession with Dedra and his mundane job and his nagging mother, but I think that makes us overlook the terrifiying idea of what Syrill Karn would be like if he actually got the resources and authority to do something. Like Cassian said, power doesn’t panic, and who is the only Imperial in the riot who kept a cool head? Not Ice Queen Dedra, not the local officers, but wimpy-looking, played-for-laughs Syrill Karn. Dedra sees the big picture, can connect the dots where noone else can, and Syrill understands where to look for those dots. Those two together - terrifying. Without irony.
Anyway, rant over, move along.
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nonhumanhottie · 1 year ago
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Andor rewatch
Announcement
Syril's mum is such an important addition to the star wars universe
Mon is ready to fucken scunt Luthen go off queen
Maarva gives me aunt may vibes
Mon really said fuck Perrin and I respect that so much
The way I didn't notice it's clone troopers in the flashback too caught up in Maarva being I queen I guess
My housemate has no idea why I keep groaning in distress at mention of Cassian's future
Housemate so mad at the beach troopers lmao
Narkina 5
Syril just cracks me up
Yularen is still a Sass king good to see you again you bitch
I'm so glad star wars double dipped with Andy Serkis
Oh saw I will always stan you
Nobody's listening!
Not Dr Gorst smiling and waving
Dedra absolutely slays top isb officer
Housemate was so sad about the batshit torture method
The stupid prison PA voice reminds me of Jigsaw in Saw lmaooo
God I love Andy's face. It's just. Everything. It's so much.
Housemate is screaming over Syril's mum
I love how the Narkina 5 plot shows that once communities form, they're tough to break
One way out
Housemate is absolutely living for this. It's the best of the best bestie
Davo really said rich people have no taste
The anticipation of the prison break still gets me
The speeches in this show give me years to my life
'I can't swim' still fucks me up even if i know he makes it out
Daughters of Ferrix
It's so fucked up that the droids have feelings who allowed this
I have so little to say at this point everything is so good
Mon breaks my heart oh my god
You know you've extreme when even Saw is gagged
Housemate is so mad that Cassian didn't hug Maarva one final time
Rix road
I don't even know what to say about this other than its literally A+ star wars
The lesbians in this show are so powerful
Housemate freaking out over Nemik's manifesto
'This is the funeral to be at apparently' - housemate
I'm just flailing like a muppet at this finale
Maarvas speech is peak modern star wars to me
I bet she'd be so glad to know her stone wounded an imperial
I love when Dedra's mask finally cracks
Man I i love this show and I'll happily wait years for the second season if it's just as good at this
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clementineskesh · 2 years ago
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Rob: I don’t think everyone did show up [to Maarva’s funeral thinking] “Today, we’re gonna fight the empire.” I think what's key here is that over the course of her speech, what she is saying is “We all recognize that it is time to fight the empire.” Nobody can look in themselves and take stock of all the things they have to lose, all the things they’re afraid of, nobody when they do that internal inventory shrinks from it. Because, and I think this is what he’s getting at in this is that when it is posed, when somebody sort of brings the moment to a head, there’s going to be a ton of people who are like “Now there is a choice before me.” And it’s actually a choice that’s already been made. [...] There is sometimes this idea that we come to our beliefs and our actions via a really open minded objective intellectual process, and we evaluate arguments rationally, etc., and this is how change happens. And I think, what’s kind of cool here, is that I don't think anybody, over the course of this episode, is persuaded of anything. Andor is not being persuaded in this scene. Andor is hearing things he’s already decided or put into action articulated. It is a feeling that he’s already following, now he is given words for what he is feeling and an outlook but he is not persuaded to it the way I think maybe Nemik sometimes intended. Nor is Maarva’s speech persuasive from the standpoint of ‘All these people on Ferrix were happy until she got everyone riled up.’ What it is doing is summoning this deeper-seated anger.
Austin: I mean, I think it persuades one group and it's the imperials that they are not in control. And that’s the match that lights the keg.
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notdexterousatall · 2 years ago
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I love the juxtaposition of practicality vs sentimentality in Andor. All the main rebels - Luthen, Mon Mothma, Vel, Cassian - are working to serve grand ideals, but in the course of the story have to sacrifice their own sentimentality on the altar to those ideals and act with ruthless practicality.
Vel and Cinta have to put their relationship in the last place of their priorities. Mon frames her husband for gambling and introduces her daughter to a gangster's son as a possible betrothal to cover for her rebel activities. Cassian is introduced killing a cop who is begging for his life because he can't risk that cop ratting him out, and he knows he will. Cassian also misses his mother's funeral despite how much he must have wanted to attend, because he knows he's a wanted man and it's also his best chance to rescue Bix. Acting sentimentally in that moment is never even a consideration for him. And, obviously, Luthen - as he says, he's made his mind a sunless place and is condemned to use the tools of his enemies to defeat them.
All of the rebels' actions are undeniably driven by the empire, who are acting with the same ruthless practicality, and even beyond that. But when the empire does it, their only ideal is power - the cruelty they inflict is the point. The rebels act ruthlessly while serving an ideal - freedom - and it's because of that the people around them are inspired to act as well. We see it with Nemik, who is so inspired by the rebels' cause that he throws himself into a mission he's not really qualified for and writes an entire manifesto, and then dies for it. We see it with Maarva, who is unknowingly inspired by her son to take up the cause, and then raises the rest of the town with her. We even see it with the aliens who rescue Cassian and Melshi from the prison planet, despite their bounty. All these people act against their own self interest in the short term because the rebels give them hope of fighting against the tyranny of the empire.
Obviously this is nothing new - it's the overarching message of the OT! But Andor just executes it so perfectly. We don't need the characters to tell us that the empire is evil - we see it for ourselves. And we don't need to be told that the rebels are the good guys - we see that for ourselves too, despite the undeniable ruthlessness of their actions. And it all builds to Maarva's beautiful funeral speech at the end, where she tells us what we're all - and all the characters, too - are thinking: we should be fighting these bastards. That's when sentimentality wins the day. It's so damn good.
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buckybarnesss · 2 years ago
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No but
Seriously
There's something so so so so HEALING and beautiful about the people of Ferrix welcoming Cassian back with open arms after Maarvas death like!! Yes they overreacted and thought that it was his fault that the Imps stayed at the beginning, but but but
Then they stayed under the Empire's oppressive rule and they realized MAN this SUCKS!!! Oh man this really sucks!!
And then they realized Maarva is sick and they try to take care of her, but they also knew rhat the only person she'd keep herself alive for is not there (AND while I have Many opinions about her but but)
And then she dies, and EVERYTHING stops!!
Everything!! Maarva's boy wants to come back home for the funeral. They make it happen.
They hug him so tight. They ask him what can they do to help. He says he's gonna take on an Imperial garrison by himself, and they say, okay, how can we help?
God this show!!!
bestie you are so right.
it's all about ✹community✹
if i could put a name on one aspect of andor that i truly loved it was how it really put the emphasis on the community over the individual.
the empire is individualistic. it is isolating. it severs one from their community so that they are left without support, without a safety net. they climb over each other, backstab and scheme to curry favor, to get recognition and glory and do not share it.
blevin tells dedra that when she falls she falls alone.
dedra is not saved by anyone in the empire when she's being kicked around and pulled apart by the crowd. it is syril -- someone on the outside that takes the risk to save her because he feels a connection to her.
syril is driven by his lack of community. he's hungry for it. he is consumed by need for it. he seeks it in all the wrong places and for much of the season we see him adrift. we see how little he cares about his mother but how can he when she constantly cuts him to the quick? we see his uninspiring speech to the men he is sending to their deaths because he refused to heed the warning about ferrix doing things their own way and so to feel big and in control he wields his petty authority against others which turns an entire community against him. it's part of why he latches onto dedra the way he does.
the prisoners of narkina 5 escape as a group of people acting as a whole. they are shown helping others climb up to freedom instead of over each other. kino tells them to help each other. on kenari we see the orphaned children had built a community that cared for each other and kassa was taken from that. years later cassian is still deeply hurt by this loss even if he finds another community. we see the people of ferrix rallying together. they warn each other of the pre-mor enforcement, the daughter's of ferrix care for maarva as she dies and ensure the traditional funerary rites are given to her.
brasso i would say is the character that is the biggest part of this theme. his care for cassian, bix, bee and maarva are his entire character. he is kind and compassionate. he saves wilmon from being killed during the riot. he is the one to carry maarva's brick in cassian's stead. this is a man who loves deep, hard and openly. he cares. the rebels are all about community. they are building a network. they reach out to others who feel the same as they do. they say you don't have to be alone in this fight. not to say the rebels do not sacrifice or it is without it's costs but we see it again and again that this is a group who cares about others outside of themselves.
mon mothma continues to try to help the ghorman despite her pleas falling on deaf ears. vel's rebel cell on aldhani takes advantage of a local custom of gathering as a community as cover to do the heist. a custom the empire shows nothing but contempt for whereas gorn and nemik show interest and knowledge of.
luthen's cover is an antique's dealer that sells off people's cultures. remember he tells that one woman she can just make up whatever that language said? his cover is the apathy and disregard the empire has for other cultures.
community is also vital to rogue one.
jyn is a character that is very alone at the start. she is lost in a lot of ways but she gains a community. she gains people. cassian says "welcome home" and even for the short time she has left she has a place amongst these people.
at the very end, on that beach on scarif -- cassian and jyn -- two people who lost everything over and over and over -- they had each other. they reached for each other and held on when the end came. the empire didn't win.
love thy neighbor as thyself and greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends
that is why the empire could never win. not with cassian and jyn, not with ezra bridger, and not with luke skywalker.
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watchingtheearthrise · 2 years ago
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Looking back I have to say how much I love how Andor uses sound—and the lack of it.
Sound is such an important part of the senses, so to have the lack of sound at key places in the episodes to drive the point home was just chefs kiss
But then we get to Maarva’s funeral procession and it’s loud.
After the silence, after the lack of background music, after the quietness of death, the procession begins to play and they play LOUD.
The Empire tried to place so many restrictions on them, but they chose to defy each one. The people marching, the procession playing, Maarva’s speech—they were all a raised middle finger to the Empire.
And not only that, we also see how Ferrix relies on sound not just for their way of life (The Time Grappler), but for communication as well. Their banging of metal in the beginning of the season was a warning to everyone. A warning of invasion.
The funeral procession was the opposite of a warning. It was a calling. It was to wake the people up, just like Maarva wanted. No more sleeping. One way out.
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