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Shit shit shit I've (finally) been getting into tma over the past couple days and I was already headcanoning Jon as ace but ITS FUCKIN CANON???????
My ace-dar is so fucking good lmfao
This is the best news I've received this pride month, tma is all my favourite things, asexual people, horror, need I mention ASEXUAL PEOPLE AND HORROR
#love it when asexual men#cuz same#i was doing my fun this of hc a character as ace because im too attached to them#save me dweeby British man#the magnus archives#tma#tma podcast#jonathan sims#tma jon#flapjackboi rants#asexual#ace
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Being Aroace is like the power move of anyone who is AroAce. āI have a crush on youā Iām AroAce. Instant broken heart. āWanna bang?ā Iām AroAce. Horniness? GONE. āWe should dateā Iām AroAce. Instant broken heart part 2. āOmg you two should dateā Iām AroAce. Instant payback. āOmg is that your boyfriend?ā Iām AroAce. Wait nope that doesnāt workā¦ Iām a QPR lesbianā¦ nope still doesnāt workā¦ god my friends are annoyingā¦
#aromantic#aro#arospec#aromantism#asexual#ace#acespec#asexuality#aroace#Iām just a silly little gal#whose friendās donāt understand that I wouldnāt date anyone ESPECIALLY men#send help#like my other lgbt friend in the friend group this happens in literally encourages this??? wtf girl???#anyways shoutout to my other two lgbt friends for not being annoying about me being AroAce š#lgbtq#god I love being AroAce (when my friends actually acknowledge it)#aroace struggles
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two took edibles now all I can think about is you being takiishiās little drug obsessed housewife that wanders around his home and annoys the crap out of Endo for taking up so much of Chikaās weird affection even tho youāre too spacey to acknowledge it fully
#takiishi#endo#endo x reader#chika takiishi x reader#you know that tik tok sound āwhat tha fakāā¦ thatās me thinking of this#being someone chika wants to protect but obvs he canāt do it in a sane way#so he keeps you locked up with all men toys clothes and weed you could ask for#and never lets you leave or go anywhere without him and / or endo ā¦#but it never seems to interest you.. HOLD ON Iām getting too high to uh . finish these thoughts but Iām gonna make a banger post tomorrow#when Iām sober and recovered from a 10-2 am concert#lmao I love chika tho I want his ass for very specific reasons which I later may reveal#(me being. a closet asexual but refusing to admit it bc of trauma )#sober me is gonna be so mad I said that#out loud at least sheās not THAT delulu#oh boy I better go#caitie blabs#drugs tw
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it is literally not about legality, if youāre in your late 30s literally what are you hitting up 21 y/os for. Donāt you have investments to make.
#Astonishing number of people will jump on the ābut itās technically legal!ā defence#But will not answer my question of whyyyyyy. If your date sounds like PTA night and you need to parent your girlfriend#you have an age gap! And! You are the lamest loser on earth; that is fact; hope this helps!!#(Okay. Lowkey? I shouldnāt be thinking about this STILL. Given itās been like a MONTH since#But I feel a lil let down and betrayed and I think Iām still kinda processing thatā¦ but I#I confided in my bestestest friend that an older man was creeping on me. And I expected her to have my back 100%#And idkā I think sheās just had worse experiences with men and has a higher tolerance to bad behaviour than I an asexual person do#But her response was along the lines of āyouāre an adult; thereās no problem with it really;#canāt blame him for shooting his shot; itās not really a weird age gapā#And worst of allļæ½ļæ½ļæ½ āmaybe he just has an age kink; maybe he gets off on you being youngerā#I have to say. I donāt care. The point is that I discouraged it several times and was getting increasingly uncomfortable with it#I feel like in that situation the thing to do is side with me especially when Iām telling you all this.#And like. Sigh i donāt know. I still love her with all my heart but itās feeling a lil awkward rn#Iām still thinking about that and obviously I donāt want it to ruin the best friendship Iāve ever had#But itās feeling a little forced right now. I expected her to have my back and for some reason her brushing this aside did make me#Feel completely invalidated and like I should just stop feeling weirded out and man up and discourage this man in wordsā#When the thing is there was NEVER any hint of interest. I donāt feel like I should have to dignify his behaviour in terms of interest or#Attraction. Because! I just donāt think you should be that forward with strangers repeatedly!! and if I think thatās weird then Iām sorry i#It wonāt work with me! I donāt like it! I think thatās grounds enough to stop oh my god.#Iāll be seeing my bestie in a couple of weeks. Flying all the way out to England for her. I donāt want this to be awkwardā¦#but something in me is just a lil heartbroken. Like I feel the girlcode was broken. Weāve always told each other#Not to let men affect our self worth or alter our boundaries. I feel like that was violated.#(ik she said that bc her bf at the time was 30 but like. Listen to my individual situation no? This one wasnāt about you I came for advice)#Rant
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i absolutely do not vibe at all with any red hood steph concept ive ever seen because fucking nobody engages with it in any depth its just š¤š¤ steph is basically the same as jason right? people who dont like jason online say so so it must be true~
like i need you first of all to walk back several steps and understand two major things about utrh and stephanie brown here. the first is that steph got into crime fighting in the first place bc she wanted to ~spoil~ the crimes of her c-list supervillain father. the second is that the core of the tragedy of the red hood is that batman is supposed to be his fucking dad.
so if you do want to do a red hood stephie concept here which. to be clear is not something i am INHERENTLY opposed to. you have a couple options to make it potentially coherent but you need to actually be deliberate and clear about what youre trying to do with that concept. you need to step away from jasons tragedy and look at hers and figure out where exactly her anger and hurt are coming from and who exactly theyre directed at, as well as what specifically in your au concept it would be so different than the canon one where when she comes back she wants to do pretty much the opposite of what jason wanted when *he* came back.
and. crucially. if the difference is the relationship she has to bruce being different you actually do need to show not tell that dude. im sorry but if you just *tell* me that in your universe that steph has a more deep and meaningful relationship to bruce i 100% always am like "ill believe it when i fucking see it". like, she has parents of her own and while that doesnt preclude having a more signficant relationship with bruce (see: timmy)... you really do have to do the legwork or it looks like youre just writing them out and asking us to take your word for it that Of Course steph wants bruce to adopt her, hes batman! gag, retch, spew. do notdo this.
FRANKLY in a reverse robins concept i vibe way more with steph as red robin than anything specifically her getting the dumpster costume from whoever you do put in the red hood role. (frankly x2 i still think if they really truly had to do the storyline they did in canon where shes still trying to do bruces dirty work for him and hires assassins to kill tim to ~make him better~ lmao she should have been the one who wore the Bad Robin uniform before tim got it instead of fuckin ulysses i just think it would have been more coherent and also funner for me personally)
anyway if you link me a red hood steph concept here and it sucks or does any of the things i Just finished critiquing i will be very irritated and i will not be polite to you about it. just as a fair warning.
#still kind of mad about this one time the topic came up and someone linked me a rh steph bc 'shes so sexy in it'#i was like bestie does the term gay man mean anything to you. and they were like#'oh sorry im asexual so i forgot that when some people say sexy it means they want to Fuck them'#...#like can you walk me through any of your logic here. why sexy was the adjective you used in the first place instead of like#'interesting'. 'compelling.' 'charismatic' even#why are you acting like im the weird one for assuming you meant attractive or swoonworthy being the main draw of the character.#why am i supposdly the one who made it about whether or not *either of us* wants to fuckthe fictional character. i wasnt even thinking that#i truly madly deeply did not assume anything more than that you meant attractive when you said attractive#lmfao.#this wasnt even the only time that shit has happened to me. please do not do this.#i would love to say with confidence 'you wouldnt say shit like that to a lesbian about sexy men' but frankly i do have a sinking feeling+#that they would#whatever. none of that was the fucking point#the point is jasons evil era doesnt work if u just copypaste it on steph shes a totally different character the context is totally differen#text#dc#steph text
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Astarion talking about his time with Cazador and Vykrum is like oh yes the boss. The boss you have sex with so he stops being the way he is for a few minutes. The sex he demands just to demonstrate his superiority over you or whatever. Yes. Of course I understand. And Astarion is like what. No. We never had- well certainly he wished we did, that bastard, but no. We never had sex. What are you talking about. And Vykrum is like ohhh this isn't a safe space suddenly.
#GWMABDHA Vykrum was like that couldn't be me when the guy in charge starts being annoying you just fuck him so he stops for awhile#bonus if this is durgestarion so astarion starts to shake him like did you fuck your abuser Dirge. Dirge. We have to fuck to beat them#To prove we're so much sexier without them#Dirge. Let's fuck.#and Vyk is like NAUR!!!!!!! MERCY#local sex repulsed asexual constantly fucking weird men so they don't pester him. More news at 11#double bonus if Vykrum's hesitation and refusal to have sex gets in Astarion's head and he's like oh I see.#You slept with your abuser but not me. I see. That's fine of course#I understand. Boundaries and all.#(He turns 10 percent eviler) Anyway do you really love me <- weird about sex forever#stabtxt#vykstarion
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hawkeye and margaret and their patient/doctor kink (heās the patient, sheās the doctor, he calls her sir)
#hawkeye pierce#margaret houlihan#MASH#this goes under my:#aromantic hawkeye#could also tbh be:#asexual hawkeye#also ofc#aromantic margaret#the way she describes why she wants to marry/be in relationships#the way she reacts when she's actually IN those relationships#tied of course to the way all these men expect her to be#the way she and hawkeye seem to have an instinctive (unspoken because what are the words) understanding of their mutual#inability to conform to the standards expected to them vis a vis romantic love#and ofc the gender of it all -- doctor is gender and sir is pronoun#and and ofc the mad of it all#and hawkeye can relinquish his brain for a bit/turn off the thoughts
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about one of my last rbs. so like remember when i was like "haha but what if.. what if bi lesbian actually does fit me as a label.." and. IT ACTUALLY KINDA DOES. like when i simply say i'm bi it feels a bit weird bc it's like "o-oh but like 90% of people i'm attracted to are women" but when i say i'm a lesbian it's like "OH NO. I AM LYING. I AM A HORRIBLE LIAR BECAUSE I STILL DO LIKE MEN AND NONBINARY PEOPLE AND ANY OTHER GENDERS TOO. OH NO.... SO SORRY LESBIABS.." so it's like. yeah i'm kind of a mix of those
now we have another problem. saying i'm a graysexual bi lesbian demigirl is. is really. it's way too long.
#I HATE LABELS!!!!!! BUT I ALSO LOVE THEM BC IT FEELS NICE TO HAVE A NAME FOR EVERYTHING!!!!! RAAHHHHHHH#ykw. idk. if anyone is curious about my sexuality or gender i'll just go āassign me oneā HSHSAKAKSLSL#but also yeah i actually changed labels many times throughout my life#like i tried an asexual label for some time but it didn't feel quite right#(aroace people y'all will always be so much stronger than me)#and i actually did think i'm a lesbian when i was VERY young but then i was like āno i'm still attracted to men. fuckā#SORRY FOR RAMBLING. LINA'S OUT#[ š š„š¢š§š ššš„š¤š¬ ]
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#hiding this in the tags bc itās kind of embarrassing and i need to get it off my chest#and i could journal about it but i just want someone to see me#sorry for being cringe <333#but i donāt know what the hell i am like i donāt know if iām even nonbinary anymore and that scares me like being nonbinary felt like coming#home after a long trip#and now iām having all these thoughts about wanting to be a man? like near tears rn bc i want to be a guy but then when i think of actually#being a guy i freak out a bit#bc i like being seen as feminine too and i know that there are feminine men and they get treated so terribly#and i feel like all the men i see that i want to be like or look like are white! why donāt i see any black trans men like i feel so alone#and iām scared to look/be openly trans bc thereās so much violence against people like us that it feels safer to just cosplay as a cis woman#even though iām not#like i donāt want to be a boy but i want to be one and i absolutely donāt want to be a girl but iād like to be seen as someone sometimes#itās all very confusing#AND like i know iām biromantic like im attracted to all genders and people#but im like? am i on the ace spectrum#bc i have a low sex drive am often sex repulsed and will sometimes ātestā#myself to see if im sexually attracted to people and most of the time itās like#itās like meh not really but sometimes im like sure but thatās rarer and rarer these days?? and like. tmi here but i jerk off and enjoy it#so i canāt be asexual right?? i tried looking it up but the articles just confused me#but then i also am like with the right person if i had a connection to them i wouldnāt mind having sex with them! but like. then i think#about actually having to be in a relationship and iām like gross no but i think thatās just relationship trauma and fear of being#vulnerable#and like i know i donāt HAVE to have a label on my gender or sexuality but for me personally it helps to know What i am#and and i love butches so so so much and if iām a man how can i love butches? like#itās all so confusing#i feel like iām 14 and going through puberty again
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i am literally. this close. THIS. close. to. fucking. cry. and shout.
my family has a serious obsession w me being gay and keeps forcing me to come out and out the closet. no matter how hard I say no, I REPEATEDLY hear āoh you came out? cant hide now can you?ā like no bitch i was basically out years ago at a young age w all those subtle signs of queerness but brushed it off and went w being straight until my queerness became visible to me. i just wasnt so sure and i didnt know this community existed until i was like really old. back then you never knew I was GAY LMFAO.
and they keep saying āyou owe me an explanation as to why youāre gayā, āif youre gay why watch kpop boy groups?ā (she keeps calling them chinese and i wanna fucking smash a wall omfg), āyou owe us a coming out storyā, āyoure not gay stop lyingā etc then I said I donāt owe them shit and they REALLY said āoh but weāre your family? we should knowā like.. thereās worser they said but dear god. that house is so lgbtq+ phobic, im suprised. the homophobia, lesbophobia, biphobia, transphobia, etc was REAL and showing in that HOUSE and the whole convo was just utterly disgusting.
i had my own PERSONAL experiences, lemme keep it confidential between me, myself and I.
then she says āoh but do you like š± (down there) or a š (a guys below)ā ? like dont fucking sexualise me??
they kept outing me multiple times,, and keep bringing up that i am a GAY PERSON.
LEAVE ME ALONE?? then my sis had the audacity to say im making up āexcusesā like youāre straight? stfu you are not GAY. donāt speak for me. ever heard of unattainable men? oh ofc not cause youre so ignorant lmfao
I hate it here so much...
yāall mfs need to understand, not every person who likes women is a fucking lesbian. People can be bi and have a gf / attraction to girls. and just like how having attraction to men doesnāt mean youāre ābeing gayā or āstraightā. you can be bi, pan, omni, etc even ace and like men. NOT EVERYONE WHO HAS SAME SEX ATTRACTION IS GAY AND/OR LESBIAN. bi, etc people EXIST.
I feel so annoyed and upset, and they SAW my vents in my phone about everything that happened to me. like donāt go through my fucking phone w/o permission??? and then my friend blocked me cause she got jealous AFTER ALL OF THAT.
and this is ALL on christmas. YESTERDAY.
ffs this christmas is fucked up bruh.
Iām never coming out.
and then the way I said people can change lgbtq labels of their sexuality, nothing bad and then my family goes ļæ½ļæ½but you arenāt cake? how the fuck can you change labels lmfao stop lyingā
Well done, thanks for forcing a fucking person to come out and out me numerous times.
the only way Iāll come out in when I leave this fucking dungeon. now I canāt even like women anymore now cause i feel so disgusting....
i really need help to feel comfortable in being queer. im really going through a hard time and I need some support please.
#lesbian#asexual#lgbtq community#sapphic#lgbtqia#queer pride#queer community#i fucking wish I was straight oh my GOD#āoh last your crush broke your heartā yeah he fucking did but that is not the reason why i am GAY#when will they stop saying that I should try it out and with myself w a man...#itās fucking hilarious cause i cry every fucking night watching a kpop boy group as unattainable men that i love ss a lesbian#wishing that I liked men when i know i fucking DONāT#ānext time say youāre bi or in betweenā what the actual fuck?? I AM NOT FUCKING BI???? I am gay. I LIKE GIRLS#NOT BOYS. WHERE do you NOT UNDERSTAND??#āyouāre watching kpop boy groups though? for someone whos gay they shouldn't be watching that?ā#itās unattainable men you dumb fuck. just like how lesbians can watch conan gray or post malone content#and like/love him as an artist but not ACTUALLY attracted to them cause they're GUYS. just like how lesbians can watch kpop boy groups but#not feel attraction to men at all. you appreciate them but itās not fucking attraction. man when i say#i wish i was straight#āoh im supportive to the communityā yet invalidate me like that? be serious for a second...#i fr wish i was straight and liked men cause GOD. living in a house w everyone knowing Iām gay#all my family knows... i hate how i never felt attraction to men. i just wanted a satisfying feeling but i just couldnāt. i was bullied#ALOT by men which is one of the reasons why i fucking have a hard time liking them. but no. would they understand? no. im gay whether you#remembering when i dated a boy and he automatically dumped me and i felt disgusting and he kept bullying me#lgbtqplus#lgbtqiia+#LMFAOOO SHE SAID IM ācomfusedā cause she keeps labeling me as bi
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Character: *goes to extremes for their lover* Fandom: aww, love them, theyāre so protective <3 Character: *goes to extremes for their friends or family* Fandom: omg no, so toxic, horrible </3
#my post#mine#aromantic#shipping culture#fandom wank#fandom discourse#there's also a different reaction when *male* characters go to extremes for loved ones vs when *female* characters do the same#fandom seems to much prefer when men go feral#which is honestly just such a waste because#feral women#are the hottest#(I say as an aromantic asexual)
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In honor of pride month im thinking about my funniest gayguy memories
#Like on my birthday i was hanging out w my friend and went yeah i know i prolly dont pass well so i dont expect to be called masc shit#And then not 10 seconds later as we walked toward the gas station door some guy exiting held open the door for us & said oh after you sir#I think my concept of self is fucked up cause i expect to get ma'amed but i get called sir more often than not these days#Or when still closeted in highschool but binded every day & some random kid walked up 2 me and said youre like some transgender shapeshifer#Or all the way back in middleschool where for some reason i was like renowned for not dating people and everyone called me asexual#When i just thought everyone was really ugly & republican#Or as a kid where i wasnt exposed to gay people until i accidentally found a yuri manga online and instantly understood women & women can-#like eachother like women & men can but it didnt occur to me til like a year later that men & men can also love eachother the same way ROFL#emf
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One of these days Iām gonna suck up enough courage to put random-ass BL boys on my F/O list and then weāre ALL going to be sorry
#YES this is about Otsu Manly Appetites I am STEALING HIM#don't get me wrong I ALSO love Mingishi he's so unnormal but that's DIFFERENT#Also I can't spell his fucking name to save my life it would simply never work#but ALSO it's about this big crybaby guy#Tomoki from Melt at Night (very hardcore shit I am a degenerate at times I will admit)#But he's SO FUCKING CUTE MY GOD!!!!!! STEALING HIM!!!!#I have others they're just really hard to remember the names of because I'll read the whole series all in one night#And my brain is bunk#The day I put a random ass Boy's Love man on my F/O list is the day I've finally gone off the deep end#I will never return to the light when it finally happens#For now I'm safe but like...... eventually..........#This is such a genuinely cringe post but look man BL is like my Destresser when Regression doesn't work or I don't have TIME for it#I can either become a Toddler and watch Horror or I can sit with Koro and read about two dudes (usually) fucking really hard#I am Asexual and get nothing out of that part btw I'm not actually a degenerate I just like Gay Men as a Gay Men#I'm getting. Worse.#I should delete all these tags but I'm not going to I suppose this is the life I'm making for myself at 1:30am on a Saturday Morning#Alright back to Boy's Love
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Okay BUT that ancient idea that all 'good' women don't have any sexual desires at all, only men do is highly destructive and still influencing society today...
For a very long time, I was so uncomfortable with the idea of having a sexuality at all because I internalized that shit. YES, REALLY!
For many years, I fought for the rights of my gay friends fiercely (all the while not connecting the dots of why it mattered to me on a more personal level).
I was loudly vocal about LGBT activism at my college, all while living like a nun and avoiding ever having to deal with any of my personal feelings.
Suppressing yourself like I did is NOT healthy. I wouldn't suggest it at all.
#I tell you I was probably the least self aware person you have ever met#granted I am sort of glad it turned out this way because I didn't know I was bipolar until I was 22#So somehow younger me was just put all her manic energy into really loving the gays...hmm wonder why#I would not want to be a scary unmedicated girlfriend nooooooo because trust me it would have been UGLY#and somehow I thought I was asexual...I was just very good at supressing things which I can't any more because of the bipolar#and because I wanted to be the perfect daughter I tried to be straight and failed horribly at it...comp het is horrible it really is#don't waste your entire 20s trying to be someone you aren't#look you can be ace and be a woman that's not my point#hypersexuality which is a symptom of bipolar disorder pretty much rules out being asexual- sorry but I realized it#I wasn't asexual because I wasn't interested in men I was gay because I had been interested in women the whole time#I just aggressively ignored it for the most part since I had some fucked up ideas about myself and cared too much what people would think#one of my best friends is a lesbian irl and many many of my friends in school were LGBT of some kind#I purposely sought out other LGBT people to hang out with- because on a level I knew I belonged with them#I definitely miss the communities at school and I could just be around other gay people and just chill there#I'm lucky in that way I think and I hope all LGBT people experience that sense of belonging in their lives#Idk but I was thinking about the damaging confinement of assumed asexuality for women when uhhh that's not accurate WOMEN CAN HAVE DESIRES#mychatter
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Even INI noticed that Takumi and Yudai's hug scene was a little bit "š¤Øš³ļøāš?" and to be honest i'm glad I'm not the only one...
#šļøššļø#Yes two men can hug without it being romantic! It can be platonic! Don't get me wrong!#But the scene itself had romantic connotation because of their facial expressions. They seemed like lovers desperate to love but can't#Also the first time I saw it I thought they were trying to reach for the key#But they got rid of the chains when they touched hands (kind of ālove saves the dayā type of thing)#Their love (romantic or platonic) saved them from the chains that imprisoned them - not the key! :3#I'm not saying Yudai and Takumi have a thing - just that they seemed like they wanted to portray a same-sex couple#Both of them can act remember? Takumi is literally in a drama and Yudai was great playing that sassy princess!#Also... I have to say it š#Some small details in the MV seem to talk about LGBTQ+ rights and Pride Parade...#Again!!! I'm not saying it IS about queerness!!!#But the whole story of the MV being about riots... Hiromu's line āfighting against prejudiceā#Rihito (a guy who openly supports LGBTQ+ rights) holding a big flag like it is a pride flag...#Their performance at Studio Choom literally making up the asexual flag at the screen and Takumi showing off a black ring in the middle#Finger of his right hand... (a.k.a asexual ring)#The line āPRIDEā itself... (Pride of what I wonder? Hmmm...) Their hair colors making up a rainbow... (ok this is just a joke) (but they do#The song being named āLOUDā (āBe Loud Be Proudā a.k.a phrase often used by queer people? Anyone??)#And last but not least it was released in JUNE (a.k.a Pride Month)!#Listen. I DO think the MV is connected to INI's MVs' storyline. Specially with SPECTRA and We Are and Password.#But... BUT. Hear me out. Please. Open your mind a little bit.#The boys (specially Hiroto who wrote the song) also want to express themselves their opinions and their feelings.#My boy Nishi LOVES doing that in the songs he writes. And maybe (just maybe) he and maybe other members wanted to#Help these queer people (specially queer MINIs) feel seem. Maybe some are queer themselves. We don't know and that is not our business.#But - whatever the reason is - they wanted to help these people feel seem and cared for. They wanted to tell them to continue fighting.#To fight against prejudice. To be LOUD and PROUD.#We MINIs know INI is not really afraid to think outside of the box... āBreaking the frame breaking the frame šµā :3#I mean Rihito literally stan an openly bisexual black man and he said āLGBTQā in an interview even if he's an IDOL!!#He wore a t-shirt that says āWhy being racist sexist HOMOPHOBIC and TRANSPHOBIC when you could just be quiet?ā#(OMG he's so my ichiban for that š)#If Rihito can do that I wouldn't be surprised if other members also did something like what I said above! š
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Also going to add that she's the only character who gets consistently hated on in my fanfiction when I allow her to have an internal life.
Salvage!Katara who's fighting to restore bending culture to her people? Apparently a SJW, whiny, too mean to Zuko, and a few other select adjectives. Whereas Salvage!Sokka, also explicitly trying to relearn his culture and actively yelling at Zuko, was a sympathetic icon.
Little Zuko!Katara was a bitch for being scared on an enemy ship, and yelling at Little Zuko for telling her he was going to poison someone's pet.
Don't even get me started on Towards the Sun!Katara. People REALLY want her to get her comeuppance in the Northern Tribe arc, for the crime of... Continuing to be suspicious of Zuko. Zuko who just advocated for keeping the Earth Kingdom's land and then started a civil war. From where she is sitting, HE IS PRETTY UNTRUSTWORTHY, FOLKS.
Let girls be angry 2023.
I just watched Avatar for the first time all the way through, and yeah, itās great, but the one thing that surprised me was how different Katara was compared to the fandom interpretation Iād seen and internalized before watching.
Like, before you watch Avatar, youāve seen all these memes about Katara and her mom, and based on those memes, you assume itās one of those lines you have to get used to hearing at least once every episode. But then you watch the show and realize that she only talks about her mom maybe five or six times per season and you also realize she only brings her up when sheās trying to comfort someone or empathize with them because thatās how she processes her grief and thatās one way she connects with people.
Or you hear the infamous line, āthen you didnāt love [our mother] the way I didā and you prepare yourself for one of the worst character assassinations ever only to see the scene after nearly three seasons worth of context and realize she was kinda right. Sheās been the mother, the nurturer, the comforter. Sheās been patient, gentle, and accommodating where everyone else has gotten to be insensible and reckless and childish, and the one moment where she allows herself to feel her grief, suddenly sheās this evil bitch and not, yāknow, a 14 year old girl whose been thrusted into adulthood in a way no other character has. A 14 year old girl who should be allowed immaturity and raw emotion and anger instead of the patience and grace sheās been forced to extend to every character without even the smallest amount of gratitude or even consideration in return.
Or you see all of the clips where Katara puts Aang in the ļæ½ļæ½friendzoneā and you expect to have this wishy washy back and forth where Aang is putting his feelings out there only to have Katara neither commit nor express any clear reciprocation or rejection. Then you watch and realize that, as cute as the ship is initially, that thereās never a point where Aang returns any comfort or grace to Katara despite her always doing this for him to the point of coddling. That for as much as Aang says he loves her, he never seems to outgrow his perception of her so he can recognize her as someone who feels grief, anger, and pain as much as she expresses love, kindness, and maturity. And instead of having moments where he learns to see her beyond her strength or compassion, youāre instead given moments where Aang forces his feelings onto her, both romantic and non-romantic, and Katara is expected to justā¦shoulder those feelings the way she shoulders everyone elseās.
Katara is the most misunderstood character in the show. As much as people recognize the complexities of Zuko, Sokka, and Azula, they struggle to do the same for Katara because they see her struggles as somehow lesser, and therefore, less deserving of sympathy. They can handle her so long as sheās being endlessly patient and loving and kind, but the moment her endless love, patience, and kindness runs out, sheās suddenly this annoying bitch who canāt shut up about her mother or reciprocate Aangās feelings. But Kataraās trauma does matter as much as anyone elseās. No, she wasnāt banished from her kingdom. No, she didnāt lose her entire community, and no, she isnāt the only one who lost her mother. But the difference between her and everyone else whose experienced loss because of the Fire Nation is that sheās never given time to process her trauma. Aang gets to lean on Katara constantly. Toph gets to express her feelings to Katara, and yeah, Sokka also lost their mother, but unlike Katara, he isnāt put in the position of being a substitute for everyoneās parent. He even admits that he sees his sister as a mother. The only characters who ever comfort Katara or allow her to vent is Zuko and her father and thatās, like, three scenes in a show where the other characters are consistently given opportunities to seek out Katara for unconditional support.
The fandom interpretation of Katara has been so bastardized that even those who havenāt watched the show know her for this fanon version and not for who she is. Sheās such a interesting character beyond her fandom limitations, though. Sheās brave, hot-headed, and hopeful as well as gentle and caring. She wishes to learn waterbending, not only because she wants to fight in the war, but because she wants to continue her cultureās practices because, and people often forget this, she also lost an entire subculture within her already fractured tribe. And she wants to defeat the Fire Nation both because of her deep love and empathy for other people, but also because she wants to avenge her mother. But because some of the fans have reduced Katara to a bitch who constantly whines about her mother and friendzones Aang, you wouldnāt know any of this, and it sucks because sheās the only character whose been dumbed down to such an extent.
#pretty sure this is a general trend sort of thing#we all grow up consuming media largely centered on boys/men and how they express their emotions#with the women in their life there to support them#even girls internalize Much Sympathy for the male perspective#thankfully there are more female leads than when I was a kid#but there aren't many lead females who aren't Action Girls#which leaves us all unprepared to think through the POV of more complex characters#used to love Action Girl because she was the only female rep I was gonna get#but now I crave Asexual Political Ladder-Climbing Girl and her Quartet of Distinct Personality Maids#/morning rant#(but seriously why does Milady from The Three Musketeers continue to be the most diverse and awesome female rep I've ever seen?)#(we've had a century or so to top that)#(trivia: The Lady in Fox's Tongue and Kirin's Bone is absolutely named for her)#for the record there are not many anti-Katara comments on my fics#because my commenters awesome#but they sure stand out when no other character is getting that level of scrutiny#(TtS!Suki occasionally shares the hate)#(happy to report that everyone was in board with TtS!Song going apeshit)#(HE STOLE HER OSTRICH HORSE)#actually done now#bye bye
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