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Can't believe "hey Kellin, your mother was a whore" is canon
#like imagine S5 john saying that#I'd go ballistic#Malevolent#john malevolent#john doe malevolent#kellin malevolent
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s5 episode 3 thoughts
it’s been a bit since i last watched an episode (count: 5 whole days!) and i need my hit of scully and mulder time. so imagine my surprise when i went to watch today’s episode, and saw it is not about scully and mulder, but the lone gunmen?
hmm. hmm hmm. well, how do i feel about this?
let’s just say that when i was doing my preliminary research to see if i wanted to watch this show, i came across a plot point that is going to be addressed in a few episodes, and i want to reach them NOW to see how they play out. and that is all i will say on the matter.
even if i really really really REALLY want to say more. i will not.
(author's note: imagine me sadly pressing my palm against a rainy window... no scully and mulder time today 😔)
okay. so lone gunmen origin story… let’s see where this brings us!!
it’s 1989 (the intro riff to style begins playing from an unknown source)
the swat people are here in maryland because there are a lot of gunshots. so they’re going into this mysterious building, rifles drawn, and everything is very very dark.
there’s blood on the floor but nobody around!!! and then they hear a guy groaning under a cardboard box???
whoever it is keeps moaning “they’re here, they’re here” <- WHO IS HERE?
woahhhh another guy finds the lone gunmen!!! they say they didn’t do it!!
while they’re being arrested, the guy under the box keeps yelling that they’re here. which does not clear up anything.
was that naked box man mulder…? no, it can’t be….
the intro was shorter again this time. i WILL make note of it no matter how many times it happens.
sad byers is in a jail cell with the homies :( the girls are fighting!!!! it seems they did NOT get along at first
IT WAS MULDER IN THAT CARDBOARD BOX?????? “he’s currently being held in five point restraints”, says the cop talking to byers <- what does THAT MEAN (types furiously into a search engine) ohhh okay. okay. got it now.
byers wants to know where a lady is, and he says that she IS real, because mulder saw her, but…. this answers none of my, nor the cop's, questions
“so what i’m looking at here is a warehouse break-in with nothing stolen, a shootout but no guns, lots of blood but no bodies, and an FBI agent who likes to take off all his clothes and talk about space aliens” <- yeah, that sounds about right
BYERS WAS BORN THE DAY KENNEDY DIED???? okay that is crazy for reincarnation theorists 🔥
LMAO is that why his name is “john fitzgerald” … my brain put together the date quicker than the name itself
yes, he confirms this immediately after i type it up. fun byers trivia for ya, i guess.
so he works for the federal communications commission, for now at least. he was at a computer con booth giving out buttons when all of this began!! aww, he looks so happy to be gathering your information
NO some random people were mean to him and he looks so sad now :( (him being referred to as narc is a repeated occurrence throughout the episode)
he sees a mysterious woman at the booth?? who starts to say something, but then leaves. and he follows her while his coworker is going to town on some computer games. aww man, i wanna show this guy tears of the kingdom. he’d be so happy.
mysterious woman runs into frohike, who is giving her a speech on a machine he made that gives you 33 channels of premium TV??
(i was going to say "i do not think that sounds legal" but i didn't want to sound like a Youngling. but yeah. not legal)
and langly is in the booth next door to him heckling him 💀
they’re fighting over who sells better bootleg cable LMAOOOOO!! who will win?!
this spat allows mystery woman to escape, but byers runs into her!!! she drops a photo of a child and he says “she’s very cute” as he hands it back to her. byers, why are you kind of a puppy dog here? look at him. aww.
he is stuttering and says she looks like she could use some help, but not in a way that sounds condescending at all; he seems like he genuinely means it, even if he doesn’t know wtf is going on.
oh my god, well looks like he is good at sniffing out the truth. he sits down with mysterious lady, who begins to tell him about how her child, who just turned three, was kidnapped by her boyfriend recently. the ex boyfriend is very dark and mysterious but dipped when there was a kid involved… but then came back and took her??! who is this man????
and the investigators are not finding anything!!! EXCEPT that the guy is in baltimore somewhere. but now the guy knows she’s looking for him!!!!!
she hands byers a card that says "arpanet/whtcorps" which he knows the meaning of; apparently it’s a special government project, and you can access it through the internet. glad it means something to him because it sure doesn't to me.
ohhhh, byers says he’ll try and go online and figure it out… i feel like he’s being drawn into some sort of trap, but he just wants to do the right thing….
they finally introduce each other, and now we know that mystery woman is named holly. good to know. he points out that there is a pack of sugar right in front of them that says holly?? ohhhh is she lying and that was the first name she came up with…….?
so byers comes back and kicks his coworker ken off of the computer. ken has been EVICTED!!!
the code brought them to the defense data network!!! and she wants him to hack into it??? that feels like a huge ask….
he betrays his FCC code of ethics and tries to get in there… and it takes him literally 3 seconds. damn. he could have been doing that all along. it was simply his moral code holding him back.
they find an encoded file allegedly for her daughter susanne modeski, but i don’t buy it….
but as they’re printing out the papers with the code on them, she says she sees the crazy ex boyfriend!!! they hide… why am i scared it’ll be mulder lmaooo
AND IT IS????????
what the fuck.
so, obviously she’s lying on a bunch of different levels. i'm trying to imagine mulder kidnapping a child. it’s laughable.
he runs into frohike and says “no thanks, handsome” to his offer of bootleg cable and frohike responds with “ah, a man of distinction” <- LMAO so they've just been flirting with each other from the very start?? good to know
mulder’s hair is fluffy to try and make him look younger, and it’s kinda funny and kinda adorable, but mostly funny
byers and holly go to frohike for help, because he is a very good hacker!!! he says, why are we trying to crack this code if we can just beat the shit out of your ex boyfriend and find your daughter??? it’s a very good point. holly says it’s too dangerous.
“lady, I’M dangerous” <- LMAOOOO frohike is a king of knowing his value
frohike says i’ll just go find him!! he could have the girl here for all we know!! that's direct action baby!!
holly’s trying to get them to stop following mulder, the "mysterious ex", while byers and frohike watch him…… mulder grabs some alien detection machine and it goes off (lmao) but then he darts into a back corridor.
and he finds them first!!! OHHHH he busts out the picture of holly and says they’re looking for her at the FBI ohhh nooooo
NOOOO... holly’s gone and ken is being taken away because they think he did the hacking… but all he did was play dig dug 😭😭 poor ken
byers starts to say it was him that did it, when frohike says you cannot turn yourself in as a hacker!!! aww byers :( he doesn't want any trouble... how far he has progressed in the episodes during which we come to know him since these initial moments of guilt and doubt
frohike says they need to hack into the FBI so they can figure out what is up with this woman. byers is gagged at such a request, but then frohike reminds him he’s literally already hacked into the government today, so get used to it.
meanwhile, langly is gambling??? wait. they’re playing D&D. how do you gamble while playing D&D??? no time to answer that. byers and frohike interrupt to request his assistance!
before he can agree to anything, langly makes frohike confess that HIS is the best kung fu 💀💀💀😭😭
byers is having a crisis as he realizes he will probably go to jail… meanwhile, langly hacked right into the FBI!!!! with great efficiency!!
omg wait!!! we have mulder’s info here…. he was born 10/31/61 and his eyes are green??? i guess i don’t spend a lot of time admiring his eyes. and he has a telephone number that i’m sure people still call and whoever it belongs to gets (rightfully) pissed tf off.
WAIT, IT LISTS HIS CAREER HISTORY….
"1983-1986: oxford university
1986: quantico academy
1988: currently assigned to the violent crimes unit"
this answers almost none of my questions, and if i think about it for longer than 3 seconds, i will end up doing a whole post trying to figure out HIS timeline in addition to scully’s. so now i have to struggle with THAT. we’ll circle back to it.
(i'm going to assume those 3 years at oxford would be for a grad degree? unless he went off and traveled the world before attending undergrad? because he would be 26 when went to quantico and then 23 when he started oxford, which gives him enough time to have done an undergrad degree somewhere else?? yeah. let's go with that for now)
they realize there is nothing in his profile about being psychotic or having a daughter, so that’s a point against holly. look at the man! looks totally sane.
OH tea…. HOLLY *is* susanne modeski, wanted for MURDER, SABOTAGE, and other crimes such as TERRORISM!!!! she blew up a lab!!!! this is... not good.
poor byers is realizing what he has done while someone enters the room!!! it’s HER!!!!!!
now what is going on here!!!!! she denies the blowing up of the lab and the killing of people, saying instead she tried to quit her job, which is not a job where you can just quit. and there is no daughter. byers looks so hurt. aww :(
she says that the coded file he found earlier contains everything she needs to expose the government’s plot against its own people… and she had unwittingly moved it forward by developing “ergotamine-histamine gas” <- well. that doesn’t sound good.
it causes anxiety and paranoia on its subjects!! is that what was released in mulder’s apartment at the end of s2??
(sometimes i miss big pieces because i'm so tuned into the little details. like finding out birthdays and the character's wall decorations. ergot i remember from never again, though)
susanne slash holly says the government is going to release this chemical onto the public in baltimore!!
she says the government is behind what happened to JFK and also placing bibles in hotel rooms. you see, i do not think these are quite on the same level of crime. oh, she says it’s for surveillance. well. okay. i guess.
they don’t seem to believe her, but she has a gun so they move forward with cracking the code as she requests. the message talks of an “E.B.O.”, an engineered biological operation, using toxins on humans.
ohhhhh there’s an address for where the toxins are located!!!! and she is being watched at all times, ordered by dr. kilbourne, who she says is her dentist??????
now what does her dentist have to do with this? OH, a mouth implant!!! i realize this mere milliseconds before she takes some pliers and leaves the room. you can imagine what will happen next.
she goes to the bathroom to pull out a tooth and it has a…. thingy in it????? what it actually does is incredibly unclear, and tbh i'm cool with that. i don't need to know everything
they flushed the tooth for the fear of giving away the location. which does make sense, but part of me thought they would study it. then they go to the warehouse and find the chemicals in the boxes as described. they are keeping the chemicals in asthma inhalers!!! that's just diabolical.
NOOOO, mulder is here!!!! and he is placing them all under arrest!!!
but then two other people come to grab her??? and mulder is like who tf are you????? they start shooting!!!! and the gas is spilling all over him!!!!!! which is why he’s ripping off his clothes!!!
the two mystery men go to shoot him, but susanne shoots them first!!!!
he’s writhing about….. and she runs away…. when a team arrives wearing gas masks???
AND THEY HAVE X WITH THEM?? who walks up to the lone gunmen, past them, and over to mulder????
X tells them to “sanitize it” while the lone gunmen are watching…… it is giving that scene in monsters inc
mulder is seeing aliens due to the drugs!!!! and that’s why he’s saying “they’re here” ohhh okay that makes sense
they take the guys susanne shot, and they throw 'em in body bags. then seal all of the other boxes of the gas, as well as the opened packaging on the floor that came from the boxes being shot a billion times.
byers asks X what authority he has to do this, which leads him to being told to stfu by frohike…. but he’s not letting it go!!!! ohhhh now they’re being sat down execution style…. X has the gun, and it is behind the head of byers...
the gun is empty, though!!!! so he tells them to "behave yourselves" and leaves. THAT'S ALL HE'S GOING TO DO?? he's going to let them simply walk away???
“it’s all true what susanne said about you people, isn’t it?", asks byers, as X leaves; "about john f kennedy, dallas?”
“i heard it was a lone gunman” <- OHHHH NAME ORIGIN REVEAL 🔥🔥🔥
(i’ve missed X rolling up, saying the coldest lines, and disappearing into the night air... rest in peace king)
someone comes to pick him up, and he leaves. just an average day on the job for a guy like him.
back to byers being questioned, where we began all of this. and the cop does not believe him at all, lmao. would you??
frohike and langly are groaning about women because “your molar pulling girlfriend roped us in and left us swinging in the breeze” (crazy sentence btw) (let's not get misogynistic about it)
oh byers is PISSED at this “i’m here because i wanted to learn the truth” <- YEAH, YOU TELL EM!!
he says she doesn’t owe him anything!!! she opened his eyes to the truth!!! i love a sad looking man with a moral compass!!
and mulder verified their story so they can leave now!!!
mulder’s car was stolen, so they think that susanne took it and went to the newspaper... and sure enough, we see her leaving the building.
they run to find her, knocking down some random guy in the process (LMAOOO) she says the reporters didn’t believe her story, and no one would, but she appreciates their help
oh, and now she’s kissing byers. you see, i didn’t want it to go in that direction. but here we are.
the pay phone right next to them starts ringing,,, and she says “no matter how paranoid you are, you’re not paranoid enough” and that they need to tell as many people as they can the truth; that is their weapon!!! so that must be why they started their organization? to spread the truth?
she is then shoved in a dark car with X in the backseat????
the three or them are then at the convention center while things are getting cleaned up. and mulder is here!!! he says he has weird ideas. susanne is no longer wanted by the FBI… he needs to know wtf happened last night!!
(zoom out as they begin explaining that the government wishes to control and surveil our lives)
mulder does a shocked “whaaa?” at this news and it was so funny lmao
yeah yeah yeah the government is always watching us. we all know that.
so! an interesting episode to see the origins of the nerds, but i’m not sure exactly what it’s leading to? why did we get an origin story for them now? are they going to be playing a bigger role in the rest of the season? or did they just think this was a nice time for a lore reveal?
hmm. hmm.
well, you may recall that earlier i specially was craving scully and mulder time. and i got NONE OF THAT HERE. so frankly, yes, i am annoyed. i’m not even saying it was a bad episode!! it just didn’t have scully in it, which makes it far less enjoyable than it could be.
i did enjoy seeing more into each of their individual personalities, though, so that is good? and i love how byers wants to be a good guy. aww. he's adorable.
i guess this was a fine episode, but it wasn't what i was looking forward to when i sat down and began watching, which was agents on the case time, so i may have no choice but to watch another episode tonight in an attempt to scratch that itch.
#to the lone gunmen: i do love you.... but i wanted scully time#you cannot blame a girl for having a preference#the thought of mulder kidnapping a child is so outrageous you have to laugh a little#everyone needs to apologize to ken who just wanted to play dig dug#not really more for me to say tbh!! it wasn't bad but i'm curious as to why their origins are being revealed now#and i guess i'm also glad that mulder's timeline seems more straightforward than hers LMAO#although i'm sure there is some complex piece of information that i am forgetting that will make my life hard#the x files#txf#juni's x files liveblog
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What I like about the show is that it is very good at showing the consequences of a life full of violence. And like Tommy had everything he wanted but because of that life he leads, the moment he started to enjoy it, he lost it, in a second. And that made his life literally go to hell, his life was a complete hell after losing Grace. And he went so far down that path that by the last season he lost everything. And the show is very good at not romanticizing violence but the only thing they completely failed at was the story between Tommy and Lizzie. It was very, very bad written, meaningless, they downgraded Tommy's character, because S1 and S2 would never have started anything with her, much less married her, and they made Lizzie a very sad woman because of how toxic she was and like never before she respected herself as a woman. In 5 seasons, we were shown Tommy using and treating her as a prostitute. And Lizzie, the worse he treated her, the more obsessed she became with the fact that she had to be with him.
S1, ok she was a prostitute, he didn't trust her, and she proved him right by saying yes, and cheating on John with several men, I guess it was her karma later. That season is fine, it makes sense, and they both feel disgust for each other.
But S2, Tommy is her client again, and we see how Lizzie likes him, and tells him I hope you won't pay me once as if we were normal people WTF?? Haha, how did it come to that, when before John was a hundred times better than him? And why does she have this fantasy that he may want something with her? Did she really think he was going to say yes? Sex is very sad, emotionless, cold and distant. Then he hires her as a secretary, because she is not someone respectable, and tells her to leave her other job, and then.... tells her that he needs her to seduce a man, that he knows how violent he is with women, he doesn't care, she is raped by this man. And that's when Lizzie's sick obsession begins: she has to do everything possible to be with Tommy.
S3, he continues to treat her like a prostitute, he pays her in front of the whole family, for allowing herself to be fucked, he pays her! And she was no longer a prostitute, he didn't have to pay her.
S4 he continues to pay her for her services, he is only with prostitutes, one of them is Lizzie. He takes her to a tunnel, so he can imagine that she is another woman, she knows it, she doesn't care, then he ignores her because he wants to be with May, a woman he respects. Lizzie becomes more obsessed, trying to humiliate other women, for doing the same as her. Then she tells him about the pregnancy, he suggests abortion and then he's going to buy her a house and the company is going to pay her but Lizzie continues in her own toxic fantasy, it's like she doesn't listen to what he tells her, she covered her ears and convinces herself that he loves her.
S5, already married, and he continues to treat her like a prostitute, he tells her that in his mind he continues to pay her, he literally calls her a prostitute, he calls her property, and she has to beg him at least in bed. The two were lowered in level, they were reduced to the lowest level as characters, which made them very unlikeable. Tommy cheats on her with many women, she accepts it. (Her karma)
And S6, before I thought that in this season Tommy learned to love her a little, to love her as a friend but I think not even that. I think he only esteems her a little, but he never respected her or loved her, because he was really very cruel to her. She is also with him, and I don't think she really loved Tommy, but it was more of an obsession that she had to be a Shelby and she had to marry him, that was her goal, which makes her a sad character,.which makes her unlikeable. A lot of people stopped like her after S3.
I think the karma of both of them is to be in that miserable relationship and be completely unhappy, but I think the show didn't need that story, much less S5 and S6. Because it doesn't make sense, why so much sick obsession? I never understood how Tommy could marry her, but I think that for him, she was another person that he used and manipulated, and it was easy because she was desperate for him. But it might even make sense.
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Leverage character asks: 1,3,17,45 (your choice on character)
thank you for the ask & for fueling my leverage obsession lol <3
1. Canon I outright reject
honestly i love the character development on leverage, even when it means the character has some negative traits or weaknesses or something. hmm… i think one thing i disliked was hardison being a super bad tipper (some ep in s5). he doesn’t care about workers? particularly after five years of leverage? idk.
i also wish eliot didn’t seem to like cops so much, but thats more of a gripe with the show’s/showrunners’ attitudes towards police.
3. Obscure headcanon
sophie: that she’s trans! love that hc. shout out to @transsophiedevereaux. also that sophie had a drunken one night stand with maggie, which is actually (word of god) canon rather than a head canon, but seems to be rarely mentioned.
nate: nate x sophie x sterling… it’s happened at least once.
parker: so many!! but the one i’ll share is that. uh. she’s probably killed someone. pre-leverage, she’s known to be dangerous for a reason, and she’s been in a lot of awful situations unfortunately. she would probably have done so out of necessity, it might even have been self defense, but yk. it’s still killing someone. and no, i don’t mean the pilot flashback - according to word of god (ie john rogers) she probably didn’t kill her foster parents when exploding their house. anyway, i’ve seen some cool fics about this idea and discussed this topic w @laser-tripwires and i think it’s really interesting for a variety of reasons, but i won’t list them here bc this is already getting so long lol.
hardison: that he still secretly adds to nana’s income somehow (he canonically paid off her medical bills), that he plays D&D, that he likes [insert media beloved by geeks that i don’t really know much about, but i love that people hc him as enjoying the things they enjoy so much].
eliot: my own silly hc that many of his scars are actually from kitchen accidents rather than fights lol
17. Quotes, songs, poems, etc. that I associate with them
gonna answer this one for sophie only, cause i have quite a few answers just for her!
1) i saw a gif set of sophie once with the lyrics of "thief" by imagine dragons, and it was a really gorgeous gif set and the lyrics fit very well.
2) yk the fable "the scorpion and the frog"? at the end of s1, she seems to excuse her actions (conning the team) like the scorpion - that it’s just in her nature, lying is who she is, she’s a thief and this is what thieves do, etc. additionally, it’s what sterling says about her, that her behaviour was predictable because it’s "who she is".
3) the gambler by kenny rogers. bc the chorus is canonically her life philosophy lmao (according to the last dam job).
45. Their favorite celebrity
sophie: canonically, db cooper. she idolises him in the db cooper job lol. poster above her bed as a teenager etc etc.
nate: man, his would be oddly specific im sure. like he reads war strategy books, maybe sun tzu. or perhaps a chess grandmaster, like bobby fischer. i don’t know much about war strategists nor chess players, so if anyone does, then maybe you can suggest a more specific person.
hardison: i know he loves star trek, doctor who, star wars - im simply not pop culture savvy enough to know who his fave actors from those shows might be. BUT. i think it would be funny if his fave celebrity was wil wheaton (who was in star trek, and who, of course, played cha0s in leverage). also, wil wheaton is famously into D&D, video games, comics, and other "geek" stuff that hardison proudly enjoys too. hardison does not see the resemblance btwn wheaton and his nemesis, no idea what you’re taking about.
eliot: i think he would have people he looks up to or thinks are incredible, who are celebrities but only in a very specific field. like a renowned chef, but not a "celebrity chef" as in one who’s on tv. i mean like a chef who is famous among chefs, for being one of the most talented in the world.
parker: i feel her definition of celebrity would be somewhat different to most people’s. plus, her knowledge of the world is deep but narrow - she knows everything possible about thievery and anything even tangentially related (probably a decent amount of physics, for example), but pop culture? not so much. she later gets into stuff like dr who via hardison though, so perhaps the actor of the current doctor, ncuti gatwa. now, there’s also famous thieves, BUT they’re generally only famous because they eventually got caught. parker does not get caught. she would not idolise someone who ended up caught. maybe the thief of an unsolved heist. honestly, parker is famous in the leverage crime world. so. herself? not that she enjoys being a celebrity lol.
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I was thinking about Sam running off to Flagstaff in relation to Dean going to Sonny's. Must have been about the same time if Sam was 12.
So is it that no one was super concerned when Dean 'was missing' for months so Sam thought his 2 week adventure was no big deal.
Or was Dean left at Sonny's as punishment for losing Sam.
Neither paint a great picture of John, but the first does make Sam's attitude to running away more understandable (plus John's constant disappearing act wouldn't help). Either way, I think s5 sam is still immature enough to think 'you left, dad left, whys it only a problem when I do'.
So, 5.16 doesn't mention Sam's age when he ran away, but I estimated around 12 because of 11.08 "Just My Imagination", and how it centers around Sam considering running away for the first time as a kid. Though it isn't to get away from their dad—it's neglect that drives him, and then he ends up leaving to find and join John and Dean on their hunt without John's permission to try and prove himself. I actually went back to double check though, and 11.08 takes place in 1992, so Sam was actually around 10. This doesn't give us a very solid timeline—just enough to say Flagstaff probably happened after Sam turned 10. "Bad Boys" takes place in 1995, when Sam is around 12. Sam's dietary preference for "Funions and Mr. Pibb" probably still suggests he was young—from 10-13 when Flagstaff happened—because by 1997 flashbacks in 4.13 "After School Special", Sam has settled on college as his method of escape, and I don't think his hopes for full ride scholarships mesh with plots to run away and have to fend for himself. In fact, I am fairly certain Sam spent all of high school with his nose stuck in a book at every possible moment. Having to worry about his own food or lodging or the lack of credentials being a runaway wouldn't be logical in achieving his goal.
It's very possible Flagstaff happens after "Bad Boys", but it's also possible it happens before. That said, the story John told Sam about Flagstaff was that Dean got lost on a hunt, and John had to go and find him. He dropped Sam off at Bobby's for a couple of months, making Sam think John was actually searching for Dean that whole time:
Yeah. Uh, y-you disappeared. Dad came back. You were gone. He shipped me off to Bobby's for a couple months and went and… found you. You were lost on a hunt or something.
Did "Lost on a hunt" mean John told Sam that Dean got captured by a monster, or that Dean left Sam alone to hunt on his own...? Hard to say.
That said, we also get this nugget from Dean in 14.12 "Prophet and Loss":
I know things got dicey… you know, with dad… the way he was. And I just… I didn’t always look out for you the way that I should’ve. I mean, I had my own stuff, you know. In order to keep the peace, it probably looked like I took his side quite a bit. Sometimes when I was… when I was away, you know it wasn’t ‘cause I just ran out, right? Dad would… he would send me away when I really pissed him off. I think you knew that.
I have no beef with Sam running away, as I have said a couple of times now. I don't care if Sam runs away. In the case of Flagstaff—kids, especially, run away. I just think that from Dean's side, what hurts the most is that Sam never thinks back and reexamines running away to Flagstaff as an adult, and thinks about how dangerous it was, and how terrified Dean must have been, and how angry their father must have been with Dean.
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still thinking about aro!dean btw. thinking about that passage in john’s journal where he laments that at dean’s age, he had a wife and kids while dean is a hunter. and like. do you think john ever told him that? i imagine he did, set the scene, he’s drunk and dean has been pulling his boots off before bed since he was seven years old and now he’s in his twenties, still that boy taking care of his father, and john is apologizing for once. for how dean didn’t get the chance for what he had (except even now, all this mourning is framed around dean, but it’s not about dean, it’s about john, what he lost and can’t get back) and dean is listening to his father tell him he should’ve had a wife, should’ve had kids, should’ve had a house and the whole nine yards.
because more than the rest of the world telling dean what he should have, should want, his father crying to him that he ruined it all is gonna dig it’s claws into his head the most.
maybe john doesn’t even remember it in the morning. dean does.
so now that hangs over him, too. every feeling of ‘this isn’t quite right, isn’t what I’m comfortable with’ has to contend with the knowledge that his dad felt guilt he couldn’t have it. (compound that with sam’s request at the end of s5, and of course he ends up on lisa’s doorstep. it’s what they thought he wanted, so they told him to take it once he was free, but in doing so, culled his freedom down to a backyard and a shared bed with someone he barely knows and tries to love the way he should.)
and most importantly of all, obviously, I’m thinking about dean getting older. about how the weight of his father never really falls off, but he gets better at carrying it. and he can say to himself, he’s long past the point where he should’ve gotten all that stuff in order anyway. might as well work with what he’s got. (while what he’s got makes him happier than the life john imagined he stole ever could have.) new freedom that comes with aging out of expectation, in a way. a space to build his own life. and so one day, when dean the age john was when he wrote about it in his journal, he’s doesn’t feel like he missed out on anything at all.
#I just. I just. I love him. I.#what matters to dean more: society telling him what a normal life should look like or his father saying that he ruined dean’s chance for it#when dean is haunted 😵💫😵💫#also thinking about Sam here and like. how getting to see Dean grow into this is. first of all a revelation.#I mean he’s read the same journal dean has. he knows what John thought.#knows how losing Lisa & Ben hurt. didn’t get the why. never got the why. assumed.#but now it’s them. it’s Cas. Jack. Mary. an extended group of friends and family. close to stable as they can get.#and this is what Dean wanted. this is what he deserved. this is the family he built.#it’s a lot more to him than a marriage could have been. you know? and I want Sam to see that. and just. be happy.#I want them to be happy do u see#aro!dean#dean winchester#spn
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Been thinking about during the hug scene in nam between terry and John after that while fighting to the death the ghost of Betsy and ponytail both hugged them from behind telling them to take care of each other
(but considering the horrible things in s4 and s5 with there divorce for the 5 time in the role we didn’t get happily evil after we got rank pulling and framing people and being jealous when idk that person could have noticed that other person was kind of upset about that person talking about the kid he choked in the parking lot,stole cobra Kai from after lying to him,karate wars and basically tried to kill him on multiply times but it okay because that his father figure or some shit so he gets a pass 😐 and he deserves to get redemption definitely🤨 but I’m going off track with my older John kreese cobra Kai hate because god damn the writer! ugh like work on cobra husband before you start with this whole kreese cares about Johnny bullshit
I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m going off track again I just aghhh like how did the writers fuck up a friendship that was ride or die and made to people were pulling ranks and throwing people in jail and 😭😭😭 leaving a person for 35 years like are you kidding me
But yes yes let’s turn there whole friendship around a whole 180 to cause drama
I’m sorry but kk3 John would have opened up his damn eyes and saw terry was jealous tho and young kreese to because he is self aware of terry mood change and I know it who am I kidding I don’t even think it jealousy I think it feeling abandoned by John for someone else
I’m sorry but that whole john cares more about Johnny then he does terry it just it doesn’t make sense to me considering all the hell those two went back and forth for each other I’m sorry but I don’t think John has fought to the death for Johnny no he has actually killed him in his Hullucation and you know imagine himself in his knees infornt of his quote “war buddy, best friend,the cobra to his Kai,his sugar daddy since nam,the boy he fought to the death for and always saying he didn’t owe him anything but apparently the writers fucked that up in s4 because pulling ranks and triggering ptsd is definitely the way to go good job kreese especially when terry looks so cute in his hoodie 😔
Ahem! Going back to what I was saying before I just ramble off sorry that happens)
And that John feels like that he kind of redeemed himself by saving Terry since he couldn’t save ponytail and Betsy
There 🙂
Oh, sweetie. 🫂
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happy wincest wednesday! what's your favorite wincest ep for each season?
a big ask!! thank you for this one, i am going to have a very hard time deciding but it'll be fun to sort through them all--
s1: so, so many. i’m going to have to go with something wicked, for all the lovely understanding sam comes to about dean in that episode-- it’s fantastic watching him be so soft towards dean when dean tells him what happened, and it’s an ep where we see the seeds john sowed to shape the boys around each other. fabulously written and so fucked up. runner-up goes to faith for showing the way sam desperately works to save dean, and for “he was probably gonna die anyway.”
s2: WAAAY too many to choose from, so runner up goes to every single episode-- i’m going with born under a bad sign for this one, because i am weak like soggy paper when a character is unable to stop the one they love even when they probably really should. dean walked in on this:
and imagining what jo’s thinking in that moment, when she’s narrowly escaped sexual violence and death, and dean can’t help her because it’s sammy? 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌
s3: time is on my side, for that scene where sam is talking about maggots while dean’s eating just to tease him, and he’s so delighted about it. also for the immortal corpse-brothers we almost got. doc benton is a fantastic villain who i wish they could have done more with, and i loved the way he tried to make them an offer they can’t refuse. so much excellence and “how are you gonna stop me?” UUUUGH 🐳
s4: fucking every episode, are you kidding me? this season is dripping in fucked-up dark romance between these two. dysfunction and desire galore, sam fucking a corpse because she reminds him of dean and he can’t function with his guilt and his need for his brother, dean’s betrayal and slowly growing resentment without being able to let him go-- if anything will convince people that sam and dean are erotically obsessed with each other, it has to be this season. predictably, i’m going for sex and violence. need i explain?
s5: season five is my least favourite season to rewatch 😬 going off my spotty memory from two years ago, i’m choosing the end for the conversation sam and dean have before the credits roll. <3
s6: you can’t handle the truth, for how desperately dean wants to believe that there’s nothing wrong with sam. truthfully, there’s a ton of great shit with soulless sam, but the scene where he lies to dean and then turns away and his expression just drops is in my top scenes of the entire show, with how dean is crying right in front of him so torn up over the last ep and so grateful that sam didn’t allow him to get turned-- and then the blow up at the end of the episode? delicious.
s7: another one that’s a little difficult for me, but i’m going with party on garth exclusively for the scene where sam and dean get drunk and silly together because i love it <3
s8: there’s a ton of fantastic wincesty moments in this season, but they’re usually in episodes where there’s a lot of other stuff going on. sacrifice is obvious, so obvious it’s cheating, so i’m going with goodbye stranger for so many reasons-- how delighted dean is when sam teases him about his porn addiction, and then his worry when he sees sam’s bloody tissue-- brotherly banter!! most importantly, this is the episode where dean says this:
there’s also that scene in taxi driver where we see how hard it is for dean to kill benny, but how he does it anyway just because he needs sam.
s9: i am everybody’s favourite season nine stan 🙏 i will forever be obsessed with this season for it’s heartbreak and all the wild punches it throws. i’m choosing blade runners for this, which is a super underrated episode. sam is pissed the hell off at dean, and he’s murderous with crowley, but he doesn’t let that stop him from saving his brother. the hints we get that sam isn’t giving up on their relationship in this episode set up the rest of the season as well as his unstoppable drive in season ten. the finale is my TRUE fave from this season, but blade runners tells the story in a fabulously subtle way.
s10: my, my, my. mark of cain my dearly beloved. SO much good shit. my rewatch is stalled about halfway through, so while i’d choose a later episode, at the top of my mind is the things we left behind for this:
HELLO???? there are so many choice moments in season ten for sam just being The Most, but the face cradling and the way sam goes right for dean and begs him to say he had to do it... kisses for all the writers.
s11: everything :D season 11 fed us SO good. going off of my season ten choice, though, i’m choosing safe house for sam bodily cradling dean at the end, with his huge sigh of relief when he has him in his arms, and for being the person dean sees. i mean, look at this romance:
gifs from here, go reblog it
s12: regarding dean because i’m on a huge protective sam kick in this post, apparently. sam is so worried ;~;
s13: a most holy man, for the super cute brotherly banter in that episode, and both of them looking sexy as hell. they for sure banged after that ep.
s14: nihilism, for the way that sam appearing immediately begins to break the fantasy dean’s trapped in, the way cas pleading with dean changes nothing, and the fact that one of dean’s happiest memories in his mindscape is from sex and violence??? proof that sam and dean fucked that episode #real
s15: controversial of course but carry on is all i can say because most of this season is bonkers.
#wincest wednesday#.ask#thank you for this even though it took me forever#fun exercise to try to remember wincest moments in eps i haven't seen for a while
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My opinion on a possible Sherlock S5
So, I kinda forgot I have a tumblr account lol. But anyways, let me hop on the BBC Sherlock bandwagon because I've just finished rewatching s4 for the millionth time. And here's what I think about a possible s5
I think that s5 will not be possible - and it's not even necessary. Some spoilers ahead so please proceed with caution.
Let's be real, the whole storyline since s3 finale has been ridiculous. From Mary turning out to be an undercover assassin, to Sherlock's sister Eurus appearing out of nowhere - firstly posing as John's "friend over text messages", then as his new therapist, then as Faith, then as a little girl on a plane, but plot twist! She's been locked at Sherrinford for years!
I kinda feel like both Assassin!Mary and Eurus came out of nowhere. In Doyle's original stories, Mary is just a normal girl who meets and falls in love with John on a case, and I don't even remember Sherlock having a sister in the original stories.
I understand that the writers wanted to put a twist on the original stories and make this series unique - and I could somehow understand the Assassin!Mary storyline. I could not, however, understand, how she managed to still be friends with Sherlock after she LITERALLY SHOT HIM AND DRUGGED HIM. And then her pathetic death scene in The Six Thatchers. Even though she was trying to redeem herself the whole time, I found her annoying and it made me change my previously positive opinion about her.
Now let's talk about Eurus... Where do I even start? She made NO DAMN SENSE. I found her character ridiculous and the whole series has been ruined with her character. Making all those traps and tricks, driving Sherlock insane, playing with his emotions... It was a disaster.
MORIARTYYYYYYYY. Seriously, he was the best villain. He should have been more in the show. Or even Irene Adler. They were such great intellectual equals for Sherlock and it's such a bad how they only get thrown around for references, especially Moriarty with all that fake foreshadowing - ohh, he's coming, HAHA JUST KIDDING, THAT WAS 5 YEARS AGO
And the ending of The Final Problem. I guess after suffering a traumatic experience, all of them just... went back to normal lives and old-school murder mysteries, right? If series 5 is ever announced, I could not imagine it going back to normal.
Because The Final Problem is exactly what the title says. It's Sherlock's final battle. It's supposed to wrap up the whole show. I can't even see how they would continue with ideas after this disaster. Even if s5 ever happens, the show won't be the same.
That's enough for tonight. I'll get back to tumblr, dw.
#bbc sherlock#sherlock s4#sherlock s5#sherlock fandom#steven moffat#jim moriarty#john watson#sherlock holmes#sherlock tag#bbc tag#sherlock series 4#the final problem#mary watson#sherlock series 5#sherlock season 4
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it's very funny to me how some (let's hope it's not that many) people think either Beth or Rip are gonna die in the second part of s5. Whilst i don't know why people think that, i assume it's because of the amount of flashback of Rip and his relationship with John and Beth, we got in the first part of s5, and i'm just here thinking that we got that amount of flashback because they knew in advance that Kevin will likely depart from the show soon, or he had already made it known to everyone that this would be his last season.
My thoughts are: John in s2 or even s4 changed his will to add Rip, [i'm thinking could be 4 because bethrip were engaged and with how s3 ended and s4 started.. and also i'm thinking maybe he could have taken jamie out, but that seems unlikely because he still loves him] and Rip and Kayce will likely take over the ranch together, kinda confirmed with how the first part of s5 ended, John discussed it with both Rip and Kayce, not just with Kayce? So back to my thought, i think the writers had to give us a lot more context to Rip background and his relationship with John, Lloyd and deeper meaning with Beth. Because whilst we've known since the pilot and further just with s1, how loyal Rip is to John, the ranch, we didn't know until s5 why John was also [as much] loyal to Rip. He legit gave that man a cabin? Called him a son in s2? When in that same season he told Beth that he already had a son and that son is Kayce? Obviously John loyalty and love for Rip is rooted in Rip being loyal to him first and always being there for his family and having killed several people for his daughter...
BUT i truly don't think either Rip nor Beth are gonna die in the second part of the season. I personally would rather see Jamie dead.. and if you don't agree i don't care. Like there is a lot of reason why Jamie could end up dead, he put a bounty on Beth's head... which? He isn't at all loyal to the Dutton.. he is only loyal to himself, Rip hasn't yet found out about what he did to teenage Beth and i fear that might be also one of the reason why he ends up dead. Also that woman he is sleeping with, doesn't care about him, further than caring that she is sleeping with a Dutton to get to what she wants.. And through that he can easily become collateral damage? I think Jamie has more likeliness to die than either Beth and Rip, the writers has given us too much of them to turn around and kill them and let Jamie alive? but that's maybe because i'm biased and i love them.
i mean i say all that and imagine them doing a 180 and just killing the golden boy Kayce? or just killing John because Kevin is not coming back?
#weird rant#no coherent thoughts#just thoughts#yellowstone#beth dutton#rip wheeler#john dutton#jamie dutton#kayce dutton
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supernatural s1e11 scarecrow (teleplay: john shiban, story: patrick sean smith)
(this is a rewatch so spoilers abound)
this episode was my first spn hey i know you - which was a piggyback on an xfiles hiky for an actor that was in the killing as well, triple threat. and ofc william b davis (who is the cigarette smoking man in xf) that's in this spn episode too, i may have screeched when i saw him in the credits
also have a feeling in this rewatch the brother angst is what's gonna cause me the most strife. i was so, so exhausted by that plot mechanic by the time i was solidly reaching the 2/3 point of the series. i do wonder if when it gets really heavy or repetitive, if i'll be able to power through. i won't be surprised if i can't. anyway, onwards to the first spat
the teaser music was very on theme xfiles-y, but then it shifts to eye rolling (for me) territory and you guessed it, jay gruska. there was a vibe, and then it was gone. so in this clip, i'm digging it (it has some of what i call an xfiles sound) and it's tense and present feeling. but then once the... urgent? music starts when they start to run with these really flat bland sounding strings.. it just feels so. cliche and boring and sitting in the background. to me, it's actively taking away tension instead of adding it. like maybe if the software they were using had better strings or it was mixed differently, it would be better. or, you know, had recorded actual strings (but i can also imagine the limitations with 22+ episode seasons on a relatively low budget b level network show so). anyway, #choices
you know what is also #choices, me wasting 30+ minutes trying to find actual details on the budget for the show and getting nowhere, other than people saying it was low 🥴 this has some general speculation of $2mil per episode but also details that they don't release cost and revenue numbers. i imagine s1's budget was different from s5
could the beds BE any closer? i know i commented on that the first time through too. and also figure it's so they could get this shot of them both sleeping and then pan around to sam sitting up in bed but it's funny regardless of silly production reasons! gotta be in literal arm's length from your brother who you have very normal and chill feelings about
also like, sam shoulda been smacking the shit out of dean to wake him up after he realized john was on the phone. HELLO what's the point of being in arm's reach if you don't use the arm to reach out and slap them when needed haha
as ever just thinking how potentially uncomfortable it would be to sleep with the amulet on, but also the commitment of wearing it, even sleeping, from 12 years old to 31. damn. now i'm sad again lol. so like, totally understand why jensen was glad to get rid of it - it was big and he mentioned he forgot to swap out to the stunt one and chipped his teeth with it smacking him in the mouth. maybe if had been less giant and heavy, they could have reincorporated/had a real fix-it for it. womp womp
SAM We’ve been looking for you everywhere. We didn’t know where you were, if you were okay. JOHN Sammy, I’m all right. What about you and Dean? (At the motel, DEAN is waking up.) SAM We’re fine. Dad, where are you? (DEAN sits up in bed.) JOHN Sorry, kiddo, I can’t tell you that. SAM What? Why not? DEAN Is that Dad? JOHN Look, I know this is hard for you to understand. You’re just gonna have to trust me on this.
taking a moment to address how deeply unsettling and weird it would be to have your dad who you have been living and working with forever to ghost you with no explanation for what.. 6 months now? pilot was set in end of october, this ep is april
SAM You’re after it, aren’t you? The thing that killed Mom. JOHN Yeah. It’s a demon, Sam. SAM A demon? You know for sure? DEAN A demon? What’s he saying?
so i had thought he knew about hunting before, but refreshed my memory that he didn't here last time it came up, but also just thinking about how mary never told him about the demon and the deal - at least when the time was approaching. she didn't know what the demon wanted, or that she was gonna end up dying in the process, but damn. give your man a heads up that a demon is coming inside your house. i can also see why she might not, but ugh. anyway, plot needs must
JOHN I do. Listen, Sammy, I, uh…I also know what happened to your girlfriend. I’m so sorry. I would’ve done anything to protect you from that. SAM You know where it is? JOHN Yeah, I think I’m finally closing in on it. SAM Let us help. JOHN You can’t. You can’t be any part of it. SAM Why not? DEAN Give me the phone. JOHN Listen, Sammy, that’s why I’m calling. You and your brother, you gotta stop looking for me. Alright, now, I need you to write down these names. SAM Names? What names, Dad—talk to me, tell me what’s going on. JOHN Look, we don’t have time for this. This is bigger than you think, they’re everywhere. Even us talking right now, it’s not safe. SAM No. Alright? No way. DEAN Give me the phone. JOHN I have given you an order. Now, you stop following me, and you do your job. You understand me? Now, take down these names. (DEAN grabs the phone from SAM.)
man oh man. it's a good thing john has dean so thoroughly trained to fall in line like an actual soldier because i'm right there with sam, it's a really tough pill to swallow without any explanation as to WHY they can't be involved. it sounds like writers who haven't decided exactly why, other than we just need them to stay apart for now :P so frustrating!
DEAN Dad, it’s me. Where are you? (…) Yes, sir. (…) Uh, yeah, I got a pen. What are their names?
dean's face when he goes from frustrated and concerned, where are you? to "yes, sir" 💔 yet again, i made gifs.
DEAN Dad doesn’t want our help. SAM I don’t care. DEAN He’s given us an order. SAM (firmly) I don’t care. We don’t always have to do what he says. DEAN Sam, Dad is asking us to work jobs, to save lives, it’s important. SAM Alright, I understand, believe me, I understand. But I’m talking one week here, man, to get answers. To get revenge. DEAN Alright, look, I know how you feel. SAM Do you? How old were you when Mom died? Four? Jess died six months ago. How the hell would you know how I feel?
that was a low blow, sammy. not cool. so dean deflects with something else that is also logical
DEAN Dad said it wasn’t safe. For any of us. I mean, he obviously knows something that we don’t, so if he says to stay away, we stay away. SAM I don’t understand the blind faith you have in the man. I mean, it’s like you don’t even question him. DEAN Yeah, it’s called being a good son!
i don't think sam's right in tearing off to track john down, i don't think it's right that john is keeping them still basically entirely in the dark, but i also don't think dean's right in the blind faith/following bit. everyone is wrong 🎉 but again, dean was raised like a literal soldier. that following orders is life or death. it's not being a good son, it's being a good soldier. which should be separate things! and i don't know the nuances of military command, but honestly, questioning the guy in charge seems like kind of a thing you need to do sometimes too, which maybe means the only choice is to bail
ANYWAY
DEAN You’re a selfish bastard, you know that? You just do whatever you want. Don’t care what anybody thinks. SAM That’s what you really think? DEAN Yes, it is. SAM Well, then this selfish bastard is going to California. DEAN Come on, you’re not serious. SAM I am serious. DEAN It’s the middle of the night! Hey, I’m taking off, I will leave your ass, you hear me? SAM That’s what I want you to do. DEAN Goodbye, Sam.
dysfunctional relationship written all over it, that couple that is always breaking up and making up. hard to watch. and this is just a tiny sliver of the iceberg o'brotherly angst to come. but also reminding myself that a) sam is only 22 and i think he had some flexibility to be childish in a way that dean never did. and i think it's pretty immature to just bail on the car and walk because you're disagreeing over doing what dad wants you to do. and we're establishing that sam (and dean) can be as stubborn as a mule. and b) i'm feeling the weight of the brother conflict from the entire series but trying to watch this with less baggage. so, chill out, friend
another little moment i could gif but won't waste my time again on, when sam says "that's what i want you to do" dean looks genuinely upset/taken aback briefly before he locks down his expression and says goodbye
i have got to finish this episode. it's like 45 minutes of thinking and rambling to watch a couple minutes then i'm like welp it's too late at night to finish it, guess tomorrow. x5
just call him!
they were testing my suspension of disbelief when i first watched this. that open, straight ass road, sam surely wasn't walking backwards long enough to not have reasonably been able to see her before getting right up on her, yet doesn't question how this girl just appeared at his feet. anyway, hi meg. (rip nicki aycox, passed away at 47 in 2022)
MEG You could be some kind of freak. I mean, you are hitchhiking.
there's that freak label again
that said, they had this all happen so flash bang boom and she's off with shady van guy and not trusting him but also being funny and cute, i can see how the logistics of her appearance maybe could have been distracted from
her big smile is kinda scary, i dunno if that was intentional lol. but padalecki did good in this, very natural. good stuff
s1e11 / the x-files s5e9 schizogeny
i'm doing it again. looking up for details on the xfiles episode that had a very similar looking orchard to see if they're the same 🤦focus! look at baby face dean's cute little scowl. and those apparently are hazelnut trees. shrubs. something. i had to confirm that apple trees really don't look like this so i don't know why they used it. kim manners was with xf at the time but didn't direct schizogeny (credited as producer). anyway! focus did not happen! it's been 15 minutes!
do it, babes!!! foiled by meg
DEAN You know, my brother could give you this puppy dog look, and you’d just buy right into it.
cracks me up that dean talking about sam's puppy face is canonical, to me it doesn't read as puppy much unless he's making it at dean like in home and faith - otherwise just kind of earnest and empathetic when he's dealing with other people. but also, dean, not gonna help your case not coming across as a creeper to these people by saying that lol
the sheriff literally driving him out of town
forgot how much he utilized the short over long sleeve look
MEG I love my parents. And they wanted what’s best for me. They just didn’t care if I wanted it. I was supposed to be smart. But not smart enough to scare away a husband. It’s just…because my family said so, I was supposed to sit there and do what I was told. So I just went on my own way instead. I’m sorry. The things you say to people you hardly know. SAM No, no, it’s okay. I know how you feel. Remember that brother I mentioned before, that I was road-tripping with? It’s, uh, it’s kind of the same deal. MEG And that’s why you’re not riding with him anymore? (SAM shakes his head. MEG raises her beer bottle.) Here’s to us. The food might be bad, and the beds might be hard. But at least we’re living our own lives. And nobody else’s.
it feels a little on the nose to have her story be so similar, but also can imagine in this situation it's like music to sam's ears to have someone who would understand so well where he's coming from
DEAN I’m actually on my way to a local community college. I’ve got an appointment with a professor. You know, since I don’t have my trusty sidekick geek boy to do all the research. SAM You know, if you’re hinting you need my help, just ask. DEAN I’m not hinting anything. Actually, uh—I want you to know….I mean, don’t think…. SAM Yeah. I’m sorry, too.
DEAN Sam. You were right. You gotta do your own thing. You gotta live your own life. SAM Are you serious? DEAN You’ve always known what you want. And you go after it. You stand up to Dad. And you always have. Hell, I wish I—anyway….I admire that about you. I’m proud of you, Sammy. SAM I don’t even know what to say. DEAN Say you’ll take care of yourself. SAM I will. DEAN Call me when you find Dad. SAM (sadly) OK. Bye, Dean.
ok i was not expecting to end up crying over this episode. dean acknowledging how he wished he could stand up to john like sam does, and was so sweet and forthcoming about being proud, and sam was ready to hear it, goddamn. but he wasn't ready for dean to let him go
MEG Who was that? SAM My brother. MEG What’d he say? SAM Goodbye.
sammy 😭 pushed so hard to forge off on his own do what he thinks is right but maybe he wants dean to rein him back in. and also want to acknowledge jared hit all the right emotions with that phone call with dean and this after. i think he can do the quiet moments well already
i love that they got william b davis for this little part. he brings all the creep factor especially for xfiles fans
dean's belly getting a surprising amount of screentime in s1
imagining kim manners, well if they won't let the boys have umbrellas, i'm getting a cool shot with these rando characters with umbrellas!
MEG But I don’t understand. You’re running back to your brother? The guy you ran away from? Why, because he won’t pick up his phone? Sam—come with me to California. SAM I can’t. I’m sorry. MEG Why not? SAM He’s my family.
❤️ i know that's right. also, "he's my family" not just "he's family" and with the softest expression. don't need to think or care about banging to ship this, they're just out there doing this stuff and being this way about each other and i eat it all up
DEAN How’d you get here? SAM I, uh—I stole a car. DEAN Haha! That’s my boy!
even more proud
DEAN So, can I drop you off somewhere? SAM No, I think you’re stuck with me. DEAN What made you change your mind? SAM I didn’t. I still wanna find Dad. And you’re still a pain in the ass. But, Jess and Mom—they’re both gone. Dad is God knows where. You and me. We’re all that’s left. So, if we’re gonna see this through, we’re gonna do it together.
my cup runneth over. of course, still have the hill to climb for sam to want to stay with dean for the long run, but. ❤️
DEAN Hold me, Sam. That was beautiful.
such an ass, he was just as mushy literally the day before LOL but the d in dean stands for deflect :p
good grief, man. this show! agh. i'm again reminded why it sucked me in. the overarching plot and monsters of the week are like, whatever, but the sam and dean of it all is so good. and what they established in these early days carried me through 15 seasons where i got increasingly frustrated with all of the non-sam and dean aspects, and overused sam and dean conflict, etc. truly a feat
and we find out meg is a baddie with her phone home to azazel via bowl o'blood
#supernatural#spnwatch#spn 1x11#spnrewatch#sam and dean mush#spnhiky#dean's belly#the xfiles#schizogeny#john shiban#patrick sean smith#spn clip#jay gruska#spn musical score#sam's canonical puppy dog look
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ok so back in like 2014 i watched supernatural for a solid 3 years until they killed kevin and charlie and i got bored of the bmol storyline. now im here again let’s not talk about it. BUT during this time i accumulated a Lot of fic and in the past two months i’ve gone through all 213 of my bookmarks and gone through like every rec list made after s12 in order to read fic set during every specific season while i rewatch the show. because im insane <3 im on s8 rn and wanted to share my list of favourites from each season so far as well as my favourite aus ! they’re all generally nsfw so minors be careful, and also check the warnings ! and i will update this when i finish s15 <3
aus
asunder by rageprufrock (23.8k, e, background samruby)
obviously the most perfect thing to ever exist.
and this, your living kiss by opal_bullets (56k, m, background saileen)
poet dean fic need i say more. part dean studies if dean studies was elaborated on lovingly in detail for 56k words, part gorgeous and beautiful poetry, part incredibly clever commentary on meta and fan allusions, and part stunning exploration of the relationships in the show turned on their heads.
one white little lie by komodobits (11k, gen)
this is SOOO cute. cas is so embarrassing i was covering my face the entire time i was reading it. if u want to be cheered up. read this.
broadway musical by griftings (12k, m)
this is genuinely sooo funny. big “castiel did you fuck the michael sword” energy and jimmy novak as that “am not against gays” tweet, plus jo <3
c-s-t-l by komodobits (90k, m)
i haven't read this in a while but from what i remember it was incredible and also had cassie <3
rest is under the cut because it got long fhjfkfklf
pre-series/season 1-3*
a turn of the earth by microcomets (time travel, 95k, standford era, m)
i think everyone’s read this at this point but if u haven't. what are u doing. go read it. it’s absolutely everything i reread it in the week before the finale without remembering half of the stuff it talked about and i was a WRECK. if u think about standford era dean every day read this. cas punches john winchester in the FACE.
geography by aeli_kindara (3k, teen and up, warnings for discussion of rape/non-con and prostitution)
not dean/cas but a really wonderful and needed conversation with sam and dean during 2x02.
season 4
so says the sword by komodobits (85k, e)
yeah. i dont need to say anything.
consequences of falling by fayjay (37k, e, background samruby, warnings for rape/non-con)
THISSSS FIC. pls it’s perfect literally everything i wanted when i was watching s4 and obsessed with love as an act of worship + ruby and cas parallels. ruby and cas get drunk together! ruby says this: “dean and castiel sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First comes love, then comes the fall from grace, then comes battling the hosts of hell and wishing that you’d managed to get your skinny ass laid before the freaking apocalypse”! what more could u want!
named by rc_machlan (94k, m)
literally the best fic in the world i am not going to say Anything if you love dean and angels and the mythology of s4-s5 that was promptly dropped, you absolutely have to read this.
four people ruby seduced & one she actually fell for (or: ruby's epic love affair with humanity in general and sam in specific) by tuesday (3.7k, e, samruby, ruby/jo)
this is more background deancas than anything else and does contain brief, not romantic in any way dean/ruby and dean/cas, but like. if u love ruby (which i do) u have to read this.
season 5
final fantasy by orange_crushed (1.9k, m)
endverse.....this made me want to die
the (mostly accidental) courtship of dean winchester by tuesday (11k, m)
a classic for a reason. really cute and soft and the handprint and cas beating dean up in 5x18 are angelic marriage rites. what more could you ask for.
the girlfriend experience by rageprufrock (15k, explicit)
of Course i mean of COURSE. thee s5 deancas fic.
strike me down and i’ll come back more powerful than you can possibly imagine by trinityofone (10k, gen)
post 5x22 dean and cas rescue sam from hell with the help of some special guests. PERFECT. the only valid good omens crossover.
season 6**
something stupid by zatnikatel (20k, e)
this broke my heart and put it back together. one of my favourite cas characterizations, takes place over s5-s6 and it’s just stunning.
a crash course in someone else’s history by annie d (11k, teen and up)
s4 cas ends up in the body of cas in 6x20. fucking life-ruining.
season 7
make known by domesticadventures (16k, teen and up)
this is a really heartbreaking look at dean’s headspace near the end of s6 and throughout s7, and it’s really wonderful with a hopeful ending.
redemption road by a whole bunch of people (652k, virtual season, explicit)
oh boy. ok. know ur herstory ! this was written from 2011 to 2012 and it is thee s7 fic, a virtual season written by 17 fans all together. it’s very very long and it suffers sometimes from having being written a decade ago, but im making my way through it right now and it still fucking holds up. i really do recommend reading at least some of it, you can stop around halfway through and you should be fine.
season 8***
rinse, repeat by ias (3k, teen and up)
exploration of cas when naomi forces him to kill copies of dean and then his perspective in goodbye stranger.
my keeper by whelvenwings (5k, gen)
another goodbye stranger fic, this time with bonus artist cas!
though the course may change by imogenbynight (51k, e)
au after 8x23. i love this fic so much. dean accidentally ends up making himself have to go undercover with cas and pretend to be fake engaged. also, charlie and kevin. do i need to say more.
apres by imogenbynight (24k, e)
au after 8x23 where dean goes to find cas after the angels fall in paris 🥺
*i have found exactly one bela fic that i loved, and zero henriksen fics that i loved, so IF u have recs for those. i would appreciate that.
**mostly the s6 fics i read were uh...vampire dean fics...
***have found one (1) good dean/aaron fic but im still searching for the perfect purgatory crew fics
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Can I ask for headcanons or imagine about ten!reader joining Peaky Blinders in boy's disguise and becoming right hand and close friend of Thomas Shelby? Like no romance, just platonic. Thank you.
[Containing mild Peaky Blinders S5 Spoilers]
“You’re going to regret this,” you quietly said. Your eyes burned into the nun’s corneas. The rosary she held was nothing more than an accessory to her outfit. She was no servant of God. No one at St. Hilda’s Orphanage was. You braided your hair down, wrapping it in the long red scarf Polly Gray gave to you for Christmas. It hid the bottom half of your face while the secondhand Peaky Blinder cap covered the top.
As much as you pleaded, Thomas didn’t let you carry a razor underneath it like the rest of the Peaky Blinders did. He claimed it was ‘for grown-ups’ and that you’d have one soon. It didn’t help you today. The Nuns’ fury maimed you for the last time. As much as you enjoyed having four walls and sometimes a meal, you’d rather crawl in the dark coldness than return to the women who called themselves saints.
It was Polly who saw you first. Usually, John’s children greeted you first. They were envious of you, and you were just as envious of them. How wonderful it must be to have both parents who dirtied their hands so their children’s hands were kept clean. You watched Polly’s face turn from endearment to a vengeful scowl in seconds. She escorted you towards Thomas’ office. Locking the door behind her, you heard Thomas complain to her about invading privacy…until he saw you.
Thomas leapt from his seat. He bent down, holding your small face in his hands. Your bloody nose smeared all over your face. Your eyes burned with tears.
“I told you I needed one.” You said, trying to keep calm. “I told you!”
“Who did this to you?” He asked. He offered you a handkerchief.
“The Nuns.” You explained. “We’re all scared of them. They kicked me out. I found Patricia hanging in the bathroom. She was scared of them too.”
“What?” Polly reacted with horror. Thomas stayed still in front of you. His anger casted a shadow over his being. You weren’t sure if there was a God, but you were sure there was a hellfire inside Thomas Shelby’s eyes.
Two days passed when you snuck your way back into St. Hilda’s Orphanage. Your boyish disguise hid in your Catholic uniform. The blue light of dawn colored everything somber. You wished Patricia were here. Pressing your ear against the thin door, you heard glass smashing. Thomas Shelby’s words delighted your ears.
“Now, put them on. Put them on your face, or it’ll be your eyes that are broken. Please don’t imagine that I won’t use this minute to do it or that I am afraid of your prayers or your crosses.”
You heard a silence in the air as still as gravestones.
“You see the world broken,” Polly’s voice mused. “Like those beaten children will.”
A whispered turned into a roar. “Look at me!” Thomas Shelby’s next words put a smile on your face. “Funding withdrawn.”
“All children to be taken into our own institutions.” Polly Gray instructed. You peeked into room. The Head Sister stood up from her seat. You flinched in fear.
“You have no say in where the children—
Polly’s metal weapon sung in the air. Her threat whispered more quietly than their prayers. “If I come for you, and I still might yet decide to come for you, I will wear high heels so you can hear my approach on the cobblestones and have time to repent.”
As other children were being taken from St. Hilda’s, you were taken into Polly’s home. Your eyes widened as Thomas handed you a new cap. A razor hid on the inside just like all the other Peaky Blinders. You couldn’t hide your smile.
“Thank you, Mr. Shelby.” You bowed your head. Securing your new capon your head, a new sense of pride washed over you.
“Thank you, Y/N.” Thomas stood up from being your height. He seemed like a giant compared to you. “Now, is my newest right hand man ready for their first official job?”
Your innocent smile turned into a mischievous smirk. “What’s the job?”
“How well can you eavesdrop?” Thomas said, showing off a picture of Oswald Mosley.
[This was so much fun to write!!! Absolutely loved writing this!]
#thomas shelby#ten!reader#thomas shelby imagine#imagine thomas shelby#peaky blinders#peaky blinders imagine#imagine peaky blinders#s5 spoilers#peaky blinders s5 spoilers#spoilers
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Top 5 supernatural episodes to rewatch
YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO SUPERNATURAL NOSTALGIA.MEME
5.04 The End: for starters, this was the first episode of Supernatural I watched as it aired. imagine. for seconds, THIS. EPISODE. HAS. EVERYTHING. hippie Cas with his thigh holster and his orgies, 2009 Dean yelling at 2014 Dean and vice versa, LUCIFER!SAM. “you’ve changed” bro I watched Lucifer wearing Sam wearing that white suit in the rose garden... honestly it’s just a real all-rounder: angel nonsense, time travel, Croatoan throwback, major character death, tie-in to the major arc. not to mention it spawned s e v e r a l subgenres of fic -- 2009 Dean/2014 Cas, 2009 Dean/2014 Dean, 2014 Cas/Dean Smith (see #4 for full details) -- and that’s what you really want from an episode.
4.14 Sex and Violence: YYYOOOOO. I will always love this episode. a siren is morphing itself into dudes’ dream women, dosing them with Obey The Siren juice via saliva, fucking their brains out, and then getting them to kill their closest loved one... and Dean’s siren is a dude. I have seen people be-heeennd over backwards to somehow make that Not A Gay Thing, but listen: HIS SIREN IS A DUDE. HEWWO? HEWWO???
4.01 Lazarus Rising: [clutches chest] [eyes fill with tears] I’m the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition. kadsjlsdkjfjg
4.17 It’s A Terrible Life: this episode is amazing for so many reasons and it’s got LAYERS. LAYERS AND LAYERS. the whole ‘this is who you would be if you weren’t a hunter, Dean!’ thing encompasses a multitude, MAINLY that Dean blink-and-you’ll-miss-it mentions that his parents names are Bobby and Ellen, so it’s actually a This Is Who You Would Be If You Weren’t Raised By John Winchester, Dean thing. AND LOOK AT HIM. LOOK AT HIM! snappily dressed, eats healthy, doesn’t drink beer, drives a regular company car, watches Project Runway, implies that he hooks up with dudes at the health club... it doesn’t take a lot for me to be like Actually, this is a nod to how being brought up by a stereotypically masculine father caused Dean to overcompensate and repress major parts of himself! but actually this is a nod to how being brought up by a stereotypically masculine father caused Dean to overcompensate and repress major parts of himself.
6.20 The Man Who Would Be King: I’m a s1-s5 purist, but Ben Edlund always gets a pass. and this episode... phew. everyone’s talking about how Castiel being in love with Dean has JUST been made canon but honestly we been knew. a lot -- A LOT -- happens in this episode, Crowley cracks some excellent gay jokes, Dean’s voice breaks when he says “you gotta look at me, man” (sob), but the REAL kicker is that you find out that while Dean was like ‘we stopped the apocalypse, Sam is dead, Cas is gone, and I am living a normal man life’ Castiel was standing invisibly in Lisa’s garden, wistfully watching Dean rake leaves. HE WATCHED DEAN RAKE LEAVES. WHO DOES THAT? [TWO MEN IN LOVE BY THE IRREPRESSIBLES PLAYING SOFTLY IN THE DISTANCE]
the worst thing about this is that I didn’t have to look up a single episode number or title :( lmao :(
#shoutout to 4.20 The Rapture which narrowly missed being on here#one of my favs#I always cry when Cas possesses Claire and speaks to Jimmy. ALWAYS#Of course we keep our promises. Of course you have our gratitude. You served us well. Your work is done.#It's time to go home now. Your real home.#You'll rest forever in the fields of the Lord.#me: UUWWAAAAAHHHHHH#answered#TOP 5 MEME#Supernatural#lollllllll :(
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Fuck this I can't keep it in the tags because I'm losing my mind because I thought about it for a little too long.
I have it in my memory that he was also supposed to smoke now just imagine:
Dean smokes. And he smokes a lot bc stress and anxiety and anger and hunting is a bitch and sometimes in a motel its the only way to escape John. To leave the room because of a smoke break. I mean for his character itd be perfect (mind you i am saying all this as someone who hates smoking but anywaaay). He smokes and he smokes a lot! And then cas happens. 4x01. And Dean gets to that gas station and he also takes a pack of cigarettes bc fuck it. And later on he's with bobby waiting for whatever the fuck is about to walk through the door and he still has his cigarettes on him because he's stressed and scared but can't show it. And then Cas walks in and maybe he makes a little note about the smoking and dean tells him 'bite me'. ANYWAY the more Cas and Dean start to become Cas and Dean, the less Dean smokes. He doesnt even realize it. Until maybe someone -Sam or Bobby- make a comment on it but Dean just tosses it to being distracted and working cases and not having the time to swing by the gas station. And then Cas dies or leaves (maybe s4 when he's killed by Raphael or s5 later for that quick moment or maybe s7 bc i think that would be way more painful) and suddenly Dean smokes again like crazy. Like imagine s6 starts and all is the same but in the beginning Lisa tells Dean 'maybe you could try and quit smoking already??' And he has the look cause he knows why he started again and why he can't just stop. Imagine 15x19 opens up with Dean buying his first pack of cigarettes after god knows how long.
Randomly remembered that Dean was supposed to have tattoos. We were robbed and I will forever be pissed about that
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Ok opinion about John and Lizzso. S1 relationship ? And if he had lived, how do you think he would have reacted to her and Tommy in s4 & s5.
Thanks anon for this ask! I will call Lizzie in the futur more often Lizzso, because that sounds extremly funny XD YASS, QUEEN LIZZSO and I know it’s a typo, but gosh, I love this typo!
I think about John & Lizzie... a lot, maybe even too much. With the setting they had, like they wanted to marry, but we barely see them as a couple... or never see them as a couple, it’s so interesting to think about those two.
The only interaction we get from these two are only after they have broken up, but they are still very friendly and compassionate about each other, which says a lot about how they were as a couple.
Every time I try to imagine them, while still being in a relationship, I picture them as friends. Talking a lot about problems and how to solve them. They are not really affectionate with each other, because of how things have started with them. It’s very likely John was a former client, who thinks he developed feelings for her, because he is sleeping with her.
A lot of people think, John is a fuckboy, and I doubt that. Even Arthur is more fuckboy than John, because Arthur acutally fucks around a lot. Let me elaborate on this:
John married young and got four kids... what a fuckboy thing to do... Just kidding, it just shows how soft John really is. I mean, neither Arthur nor Tommy married before war and neither of them had children. I think John chose this life for him, because he wanted to. He loved Martha, he loved having a family and he chose this for himself, because he likes being a father and husband. Everything around him is chaos and family is what gives his life structure and stability.
And as a man around this time, he had the choice to marry or not to marry. He could have had a completely fine life, without the trouble of getting kids. If he got Martha pregnant, before they got married, he could have also talk to her about abortion, but... he married her and raised three other kids with her.
That’s why, he is not a fuckboy ... and that’s my opinion.
So after the war John is confronted with the problem of raising four kids... alone. He knows that’s too much for him to handle alone. I bet he was sleeping with Lizzie, to just get his mind off his problems, but it was still there, everytime he was with her. And he thinks to himself: “There is this great woman, I have known all my life, who knows me, knows what life I live, still accepts me, talks with me and gets along with my children... could that be the solution to my problem?”
A part of him also wants to feel a deep connection between them, which they don’t have... not in a romantic way. John wants to sleep with a woman, he is bonded to, because that makes sex better for him and he performs better, if he is fucking somebody he loves. Love makes sex a lot better and he could fuck around all Small Heath, like Tommy and Arthur did, but that doesn’t do it for him. It’s good sex, but not fantastic or really satisfying. It’s something to calm his nerves. (Tommy does that too, but he is so cold-hearted he doesn’t bother to seek after a romantic relationship)
But why do I think, he didn’t had a romantic relationship with Lizzie? Well... because Lizzie sees him different and she is different than him. John was her client first, so all she is going to see in him... is a customer. John is a duty for her. Tommy on the other hand... I think she always had a crush on him and she is still hung up on the time before war and thinks someday she might get a happy end with him... but then they get married and she learns he will never be hers.
Lizzie and John are really good platonic friend with each other and I still want to write (actually it’s a work in progress) a fic, with a focus on their dynamic before or in season 1. John didn’t make a romantic marriage proposal and if he did... Lizzie laughed it off. It’s more likely both of them had a clean discussion about how a marriage could fix a lot of their problems. They both rationally agreed on this and then John went to tell his family about, even though he knew Tommy and the others would laugh about this plan... because clearly John isn’t the thinker of the family.
And when John learned from Tommy about Lizzie’s plans to keep working as a prostitute, he feels betrayal, because she could have told him. But instead she went behind his back and made him look like a fool. If they talked about it, they would have figured out something, that works for both of them. So John understands, he hasn’t found a partner in her... that’s not the same thing he had with Martha.... that’s not love and Lizzie is clearly not in love with him. Or why would she still sleep with other men, if she was in love with John? If she loved John, she would have a lot more faith in him, that things would work out finacially and she doesn’t have to work anymore.
John goes to Lizzie and calls the whole thing off. Lizzie realised, she is relieved, because she didn’t love John nor did she wanted to marry him. She is in love with somebody else and around that time she notices how strong her feelings are for a certain Shelby brother... who isn’t John.
Both of them go back to being friends and stop sleeping with each other, because John can’t sleep with her knowing, she is screwing others as well.
AND NOW... let’s go back to the question... if John would have survived the shooting in season 4, how would he react to Lizzie’s and Tommy’s relationship?
John as we all know him.. has a quick temper and is very hot-headed... He would be furious.
At first at both of them. He would shout and yell and when he doesn’t have the energy to do that... He would start to ignore them. keep all this hate inside him.
But then Lizzie would confront him about this and would probably say something like: “I don’t have a choice.. I want to keep the baby and therefore I have to marry him.”
John would go like: “Yeah, I know why you want to keep it. You have always loved him and not me. (bitch)”
Lizzie on the other hand would retort: “what’s so wrong about that? I can’t choose who I love... That’s just happening to me.”
John: “Why him tho? My brother is a dick... he doesn’t treat you right. He would only marry you out of duty. He doesn’t give a fuck about you and he is going to hurt your feelings.”
Lizzie: “That’S my life and I’m going to make the decision. Fuck off.”
John: “alright, fuck off.”
They wouldn’t talk to each other for week, or more likely until the wedding. John had to be there, but he would be very silent, which is not quite like him, but he feels like the second he opens his mouth he is going to say something that would ruin Lizzie’s wedding day, but he still likes her too much to do that to her. So he keeps everything to himself.
Later he would drink and yell at Tommy for destroying Lizzie’s life and confront him in private about it.
And he would be mad at Tommy for like a year at least, because he can’t forgive Tommy for treating Lizzie, the way Tommy does.... and it’s actually a good thing John died, before seeing them together, because I believe, John’s disagreements with Tommy would only become more violent, after Lizzie’s and Tommy’s marriage. And slowly John would start to hate Tommy... Not like John would actually plan to leave or do something against Tommy, but he would be bitter and resentful the whole time. He can’t leave Tommy, because they are brothers and John has a strong sense of family, but he would pick a fight with Tommy to every given chance.
He and Lizzie would be friends after a while, but his relationship with Tommy would be ruined.
#peaky blinders#peaky blinder headcanon#peaky blinders season 4#peaky blinders john#john shelby#lizzie stark#lizzie shelby#tommy shelby#peaky blinders fandom
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