#lesboys are not valid

[bloodpopsoda]

When women engage with mlm / nwlnw, it’s fetish.

but when men engage with wlw / nmlnm, lesbians aren’t being inclusive enough.

What is this double standard ?

[ilviloebseie]

I find it funny that if you call out people for being lesbophobic who are usually mostly immature minors, and that mspec "lesbians" don't exist they'll literally prove how lesbophobic they are, and will talk about how so and so existed in history, as if there wasn't several problematic flags/terms, that were used in history and called out later, this is literally one of the dumbest excuses Lesbophobes use. There was a time with other problematic things existed but couldn't be focused on because the had other problems, but now as we have involved we can call out these problems that's literally how you grow over decades it doesn't matter if you think it's small it's not to a person who's whole identity is being talked over by a person who's not even lesbian. I'm not lesbian so I don't have a place to talk over lesbians or have a say on lesbianism but I can: listen to their voices because I know just from this app alone how isolated you all make them feel, because they're the only sexuality that doesn't like men, and you villainize and seem to only talk over lesbians and gay men, not only that some of you stereotype them as any other type of queer phobia to other communities, when they speak on their issues respectfully and when really any queer phobia comes from every community and it's just as lesbophobic to them. You can easily call out any type of queer phobia to EVERY community, without targeting a one whole community.

Lesbian: a person who's NOT a man attracted to anyone who's NOT a man (zero attraction to men, sexually or romantically it's not possible, there's a thing called bi-romantic homosexual, because that's an umbrella term, lesbian is not an umbrella term.) Please for the love of god learn the difference between sapphic and lesbian.

But I'm not gonna argue with minors or immature adults, who like to pretend they aren't lesbophobic and tbh they just don't like when they're not involved, and when it doesn't affect them, and They know they're wrong too when they turn off the comments or when they have a petty reply "lmao" "womp womp" how original. You are proving the point, even Tiktok is not as bad as this.

[moxx-n-angel]

”Stop being queerphobic during pride month” I’ve never been queerphobic. I’m a transmasc pansexual who doesn’t support straight people trying to be special.

[adderal1-0]

Just got an anon ask hating me for not supporting lesboys lmao 😭

Babies first hater I’m famous guys!!!

[thurio-edau]

um, actually yes, trans men can and will be lesbians. and each time you complain about them 3 (three) more trans men convert to lesbianism

[genderstarbucks]

Lesboys who smoke weed? Real? Never.

Inspired by this bc it's so cute

@someguythatdrawsstuff

[gur0hana]

Can anyone tell me why lesboys/turigirls/gaybians are so hated in the queer community when the entire point of this community is to be yourselves and destroy gender norms?

Aren’t we supposed to be supporting every form of queerness, even weird and confusing forms, and continuing to break down those societal pressures around sexuality?

Everyone preaches inclusivity, freedom, and equality, and tells you to be queer and proud! Until you’re too queer. Until your queerness can’t just be boiled down to “boy who likes girls” or “nonbinary who likes girls”. Sometimes gender and sexuality are twisted up and combined together, sometimes they’re complicated. Sometimes gender isn’t one feeling, but a bunch of tiny feelings. Sometimes gender is several things at once.

So why is all of that so easy to accept… until it comes to lesboys/turigirls/gaybians? Why is it so hard to understand that I’m both a boy and a girl who is gay for men and lesbian for women? Using the terms I use gives me euphoria. And why is it okay to take my euphoria from me when you just don’t want to understand my identity?

The same arguments I see thrown around attacking lesboys have been used against neopronouns and xenogenders. But now xeno/neo users are LITERALLY using those arguments against other identities. How does that make sense??

[gonzosslaughterhouse]

My lovely wives

[sirenium]

'Safequeer' mfers when people are queer in a way they don't like:

[GIF ID: a toy decor skeleton getting absolutely eviscerated in a blue shredder with silver blades. Said skeleton looks like it's thrashing and flailing about as it slowly gets consumed. End ID]

[gg0dzzz]

[cryinginthefkncorner]

Do you accept m-spec women into all sapphic spaces and understand they are individuals not responsible for the actions of people who hurt wlw like a normal person, or do you demonize them and blame them for the fetishization lesbians face at the hands of perverted cishet men like an exclus misogynistic pick-me freak?

Please note there is a right answer and the validity of your opinions on the queer community rely on giving and holding true to the right answer.

[tinkaqueer]

Lesbitwt when Lesboys try to celebrate lesbian visibility day too

[plague-and-creatures]

People who try to define lesbian solely by the exclusion on men and men aligned people are weird and come off as kinda immature to me

And I'm not just talking about the "nmlnm" people, I'm also talking about the people that will question a lesbian's sexuality if she idolizes a male celebrity, because no lesbian could ever like a man enough to put pictures of him all over her wall unless she wasn't really a lesbian

Apparently????

It's the people who make it a point that they have a distaste for or hatred of men, and they've tied that into their sexual orientation

Then they go "can we have something that's not all about men for once?", not realizing that by using the exclusion of men to define a certain identity they still are making it all about men

And talking about bi-lesbians with people like this always comes down to what is basically "well bisexuality can include attraction to men and I don't want boy cooties on my sexuality!"

Literally grow up

[curekirin]

— LESBOY+TURIGIRL GAYBIAN

Flags for gaybians who are both lesboys and turigirls! Flags in order are turilesboy gaybian, transfem turilesboy gaybian, and transmasc turilesboy gaybian.

[our-lesboy-experience]

it's upsetting to see people online against your identity who are queer, themselves. I'm mostly desensitized to it because I'm trans lol, but I do still experience frustration towards the people so hellbent on ripping apart the queer community with their intolerance. Just pick up a book, listen to other people about their experiences for ONCE in your life, people. 'Oh it's just fetishistic cis men' when a huge chunk of us are multigender, or nonbinary, or anything but cis and/or binary men. And yes, there are binary men who are lesboys who deserve just as much respect and I'm tired of accepting this idea that if you're a binary man you cannot be a lesbian, cis or otherwise. It's absurd to pretend that sexuality is a box with correct and incorrect ways of being, because that's what cishet homophobes believe too. It's no better to be anti lesboy than homophobic.

I know, when we're placed in a world that seems so man centered, and you're pressured to be into men as a woman when you're not, you can feel insulted by lesbian men and stuff like that. But once you learn that queer people being queer differently than you aren't trying to hurt you, you'll thank yourself for it. Once I stopped believing in some made up rules, my rollercoaster of an identity isn't so confusing or stressful anymore. We can view gender AND sexuality like this, and that's where a good chunk of progressives fall flat. Because when the average person thinks of 'lesbian' they think of women attracted to women exclusively, with hardly any room for gender fuckery or malleable attraction... and the 'nonman x nonman' definition isn't much better. It's still rigid with its allowances.

It's time to leave boxes behind as a community. That's why when I'm elected as president-

sirenium is going to be participating in the election this november. make sure to vote lesboy no matter who

[arlosworld91]

Friendly reminder anyone can be a lesbian. <33

All gays and lesbians are valid.

Fuck the label/identity police.