#lati twins

[amavaria]

Soaring Altomare 🎐🌊

[front-facing-pokemon]

[simply-serperior]

TEASER.

[penroseparticle]

Raikou is my least favorite child

[komaedamizuki]

Latias: *exists*

Mira: That. I want to look like that.

[phlurrii]

so Unrelated but is Circe's future partner a shiny Latias?? :0 if so, can i have a tid bit of lore if that doesnt involve any spoilers? :D

Been working on this like a mad man to condense it, the first draft was way too long XD

Okay for for context, Citrine is a shiny Latias that will eventually become Circe’s partner down the road. This was based off the fact when I was shiny hunting Mewtwo, I couldn’t find it in the wormholes in USUM, but I did find Latias! So I took a break to shiny hunt her instead. I found her 7000 encounters in and then found Circe 2-3k encounters later after finally tracking her down X3

The two girlies are a sapphic couple, they won’t adopt or have any kidlets, but will be the type of aunts that show up to family events, spoil the niece’s and nephew’s, then dip after hyping them up on sugar.

Some old art I made of them a while back for visual enjoyment, but onto to explaining for how Lati’s work in this world and where Citrine and Circe come into play amongst it!

Lati’s are a companion based species, requiring a partner to survive whether platonic or romantic. Otherwise they are known to decline both physically and mentally, eventually perishing from loneliness. They also require a partner to reproduce, however both genders can lay egg making the sex of the Lati companions irrelevant. Due to being hunted by humans and predators alike, as well as Latias’s bright red colouring making it easier to spot has greatly reduced the number of their population. Causing even more to die from being unable to locate a partner, resulting in their very culturally strict mating/breeding habits.

Lati’s often pair up into larger pods in order to ensure survival of their chicks, of which are always guaranteed to be twins! However, if a Lati couple fails to produce two living, healthy kits they will be ejected from the pod. This is because:

1) They fear the miscarry was a genetic flaw and will be carried down by the chicks.

2) It causes an uneven of Lati’s, guaranteeing it or another will struggle to find a companion.

Ejecting the family removes the threat of tainting the gene pool and prevents a guaranteed uneven spread of Lati’s! As while more chicks can still die from illness, hunting, or accidents, it’s not a guarantee. The pods do everything in their power to prevent it, given to reproduce its required to have 2 Lati’s of which can only produce 2 chicks in their entire lifetime. Making uneven numbers very dangerous! Since every pair can only reproduce once.

Ejecting a family is treated as a death sentence, as often without the assistance of the pod it becomes difficult to raise and care for the chicks. The parents splitting up as one cares for the babies and the other provides. However if one parent is ever picked off by predators, it forces the remaining parent to risk leaving the chicks alone. All accumulating to a higher chance of the family perishing all together.

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So how does this all affect the gals? Well, Citrine is shiny, that’s a problem for Lati’s.

Shiny’s in my story, by admittedly accident, usually spell a bad omen or follow up a tradegy, a death, or a life altering event. Citrine continues this trend.

She was born alongside her twin brother we’ll just call Latios for now. Latios was a normal, non shiny Lati, while Citrine was bright gold/yellow. Upon their pod seeing this, her family was ejected from the pod and forced to live on their own. Her parents did not abandon her and happily, albeit struggling, raised her and her twin brother despite the HEAVY judgement from other pods. Given Shinys were ejected not because of any inherent defects, but rather because they were infertile.

Shiny Lati’s cannot produce offspring, and given it takes two Lati’s to make a kiddo, if one can’t contribute their side of the equation, their partner can’t have the chicks either. They are not asexual reducers and require the both partners to be fertile!

So upon seeing Citrine was a shiny Latias, her family was ejected due to the guaranteed inability for her to pair up. And whilst her family did successfully raise both her and her brother to adulthood. Even in lone Lati’s search for companions, no one will take a shiny. Which is a shame, give shinies are often larger, bulkier, more powerful, and their colors help them blend in BETTER then normal Latias’s especially. Latios’s stay generally the same with colour camp shiny or otherwise. So despite this, Citrine has a very good chance at surviving on her own!

If dying slowly from loneliness and depression was a thing.

Cue Circe.

Circe finds Citrine very much on her last legs, the will to move or find food is all, but gone. So she’s wasting away on a cliff face near an ocean. Circe, a shiny herself and having 0 concept of Lati’s or most Pokémon for that matter, helps her and slowly nurses her back to health. Her disregard for shinies, their status in the general population, and genuinely caring for Citrine as she is and not what she is ends up being the first time she ever has someone really look beyond her colours. Breaking out of a toxic mindset her species imprinted on her due to fear and desperation to keep their species alive in the first place.

From there it’s a very classic lesbian love story. No one confesses for 8 years and eventually they realize their “friendship” is very, very, very, very much not a friendship anymore and hasn’t been for a while ;]

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Anyways YAY INFODUMP!!! I’ve sat on this info for months and developing An entire Lati side story for ages. I love those goofy jet plane birds.

[loupy-mongoose]

Last night, despite getting done with a week-long subbing stint at work and finally arriving at that sweet SWEET weekend... I lost my drawing drive. X3

So, I decided to play some Pokemon.

And I went on a Lati spree.

I brought up that Jamie knows a Latias and Latios on her blog. I've had the LatiAs in question for a few years now, but as far as the LatiOs... I had nothing to work with. XD

So, I started an Omega Ruby (accidentally started Alpha Sapphire first, thankfully realized my mistake early on) and binge played to the point that I could get the boi~

And now that I have him... I thought I'd dive into their characters and some small Lati lore!

And my current idea for how I'd draw them~

Playingaroundwiththeirnameshehe~

Mention of death and injury ahead, but nothing graphic.

Areth and Thusa are siblings--Older sister and younger brother. I'm leaning toward having Latis be laid in twin pairs. However, due to unfortunate circumstances, these two both lost their respective twins, and they come from separate clutches.

Their parents were also lost when Thusa was young, so Areth took up the role of raising her little brother.

One day, Areth was attacked and badly wounded by Sharpedos, so her devoted little brother went to find help. That help was in the form of Jamie's eventual sister-in-law, Rose, who was in the midst of her own trainer journey through Hoenn. Rose took Areth to the Pokemon Center and provided comfort for Thusa as she recovered. Although wary of her, Areth came to trust the human and became a loyal member of her team. Thusa himself never battled, but tagged along and had a jolly old time~

In Scarlet, Areth is a good sight larger than normal, while Thusa is a little bit smaller. I was kinda hoping he'd be smaller than that, but I adore the dynamic I have going with these two! ^w^

[quins-makeshift-menagerie]

I know it isn’t pride month anymore but I was wondering the cast’s romantic orientations?

Pff doesn’t need to be Pride Month for me to answer something like this

Zeus & Mnemosyne are polyamorous/demiromantic

Fuji, Joyce, and the Latis are monogamous/heteroromantic

Janus is SOMEWHERE on the ace spectrum I know that much

Not doing Bella, the mittens, or the Lati twins since they’re still young but they’ll figure things out eventually

Goopy has no room in his barely beating heart for romance

[fulisha-of-light]

I was gonna compare these guys until I realized their beta sprites are 128x128 pixels while final ones are 64x64. Kinda annoying.

I did some trickery in GIMP to try and cleanly resize the final sprites so you can compare them to the beta ones with ease. Hopefully they're accurate.

Obviously Latios's front sprite somewhat remained the same: they removed a wing, redrew the right arm, fixed the ears, and adjusted the colors. Same could be said for the back sprite, biggest change was removing the wing so it looked less awkward.

Surprising that beta Latias had the same front pose and went through the most changes. A shame since I like beta Latias's sprite more than the final, it looks cuter.

Latiken doesn't appear to share much of anything with the others other than a similar back sprite pose.

I'm a little disappointed there hasn't been any other drafts of the Lati twins, but maybe some other WIP sprites will turn up.

[zeravmeta]

Cynthia has her beta outfit reused for the anime as her casual clothes!

As a whole, some of the anime stuff (Lucario Movie's Tree of Life, Lati Twins being Ocean guardians in the expanded creation myth and set in Altomare) makes me feel like the Anime Writers were IN on the series bibles

Oh yeah they were 100% in on the behind the scenes stuff The big thing abt these leaks imo is that Nintendo/Gamefreak NEVER release this type of concept stuff that most other franchises do, so for the most part we never had a good idea for how they saw their own series and what type of ideas they were trying to express, which is why this is pretty significant to me

[kafus]

i think it’s really funny that when i was young, i was under the impression for quite a long time that the lati twins were johto pokemon, because my main exposure to them was the movie (pokemon heroes my absolute beloved) and the first time i actually caught one in my games was in HGSS, because while i beat ruby as a kid, i barely played any of its postgame and just wasn’t much of a hoenn girl in general, so i never encountered the roamer. i also didn’t have any gen 2 games as a kid and didn’t really know GSC existed, so i didn’t have that to disprove it either (i’m talking so young that i was not yet using the internet really, so anything i knew about pokemon were things my mom found out or commercials on TV, which were firmly in gen 4 era at that point)

i’m not sure when i got this misunderstanding corrected? i wasn’t surprised when ORAS came out and the latis were a huge part of the hoenn remakes so it was definitely before that. i’m just going to assume that i stumbled on this information when i was like 9 or so and starting to use the internet a lot more, as well as learn romhacking skills which had me tinkering with gen 3 wayyy more than before lmao. but it’s funny to think about. the latis definitely don’t look like johto pokemon in terms of design but the ideal GSC to me is everything is the same but latias and latios are there

[s0bk]

Your Lati twins posts from a while back actually got me wondering how you'd handle Koraidon and Miraidon

N-not because I crush on the former or anything.... ahaha ^^'

Who said that?

they're cute but i've never thought about it lol i'm trying to work on a lugia.... it's coming along very slowly </3

[front-facing-pokemon]

[sendinganew]

Lati@s? (Feel free to include both)

In this world you can’t have one without the other. Cause (Latias) and Effect (Latios) are conjoined twins whose combined psychic powers allow them to see the past and the future. Cause is very quiet and shy while Effect is more outgoing. They work together to control their body and spend a lot of their time simply flying around the world.

[goldmouse]

For a hot sec I tried having a set of lati twins for a blog. I didnt vibe as much with it as I thought I would but here's the first concepts for Felix and Felicity

[fangaminghell]

If you're wondering, I like to think the lati twins think of Bree as their mom lmao. She was always nice to them and the pokemon that she would catch on TV, so they trusted her waaaay more than the director.