#la révolution

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123 ICONS OF GAIA WEISS IN LA REVOLUTION

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[azlia-iconoclast]

Aujourd'hui, c'est l'anniversaire de la fin de la révolution. Certaines des choses dont on ne parle jamais sont que Robespierre a décidé de ne pas abuser de son pouvoir et d'autoriser les élections même s'il savait que l'aristocratie avait soutenu les généraux, à la fin, il savait qu'il avait échoué la révolution le jour où il a trahi Paul Marat qui était le radical que le peuple aimait vraiment, Robespierre savait que la modération au nom de l'unité avec les libéraux a mis fin à son soutien, il aimait tellement la démocratie qu'elle a appelé aux élections même s'il savait qu'en conséquence un nationaliste se lèverait et déferait tous les progrès de fraternité et d'égalité que nous étions en train de transformer. Je ne sais pas s'il était conscient que le nationaliste allait être Napoléon ou s'il savait qu'il allait être diabolisé au point qu'à ce jour, les gens appellent les peines légales qui ont fait payer enfin à l'aristocratie ses crimes "règne de la terreur" au lieu de justice. nous avons essayé de maintenir la révolution en vie dans les années qui ont suivi mais c'était une cause perdue, qui valait la peine de mourir mais une cause perdue néanmoins. Les gens ont fait confiance à un général qui prétendait être un révolutionnaire tout en étant financé par les aristocrates et les marchands les plus haineux, avec Napoléon la révolution a pris fin, nous savions tous ce qu'il était vraiment mais personne ne l'a écouté, ils ont préféré le confort aux difficultés de la solidarité, ils ont détesté les réformes athées et la nouvelle liberté des femmes au point de vendre leurs nouveaux droits au nom de cette haine, ils l'ont choisi malgré les avertissements, ce n'était pas une surprise quand il a trahi la démocratie et s'est déclaré empereur, les premières années ont été prospères en raison des fruits des horribles guerres à l'étranger mais ensuite vient le prix, Napoléon a mis fin à la possibilité d'élever et de révolutionner l'esprit humain dans la solidarité et l'égalité et il l'a fait avec un énorme applaudissement nous ramenant à un monarchisme divisé en classes, plus jamais même après sa mort les idées d'unité et d'économie inclusive ne sont revenues en France jusqu'à la fin du siècle entier. les gens ne savent pas mais Napoléon et son héritage étaient considérés comme les pires des pires, avant Hitler, les gens considéraient Napoléon comme le pire de l'Europe

History doesn't repeat but sometimes rythms, i feel this so vividly bow that the justices in america who are lifelong positions are all going to be young for a judge and ultraconservatives, as it was with Napoleon backwards policies that cost us the whole century and the future of europe now europe even after trump has lost the century, any attempt to change what trump will do or rebuilt what he will destroy will be blocked by the justices until their death or more given that humanity doesn't learn and repeat it's mistakes ober and over. your whole generation, your children and half the life of their children will suffer the consequences of this choice, choice that would had not happened if you had demanded of democrats to keep their promises and not their greed.

i pity you we should had demanded revenge for Marat that way robespierre would had never be in power and decide to appeal to conservatives losing the people's trust in the moderation. but at least we had true revolutionaries, you comformed with having 2 parties founded by merchants and genociders so no even a dignified end you had as we did, just a silent one.

[manicdream13]

cette émission est tellement chouette (je la regarde à nouveau pour la deuxième fois)

[lucy-and-loki]

just finished watching la révolution on netflix and damn why did it have to get cancelled after one season

[lil-gingerbread-queen]

Maybe it's my own fault for not checking the news

UK folks, listen, it's time for you to unify to destroy the UK once and for all. Scotland & Wales, do everything to declare independence, Ireland, become one again, English people, get rid of those nobles treating you like dirt. Overwelm them, get your freedom back. Others gov cannot support you, but the people are. The EU is waiting for you, folks.

Now, excusez-moi, but I'm going to prepare myself for my brother saying that British are happy to not have heat if the King gets a great ceremony.

[enlitment]

Camille Desmoulins and Maximilien Robespierre – doomed by the Revolution?

a second part of the answer to the ask kindly sent by @iron--and--blood - first part can be found here

Okay, so I tried to follow the sources and I ended up missing what is arguably the key question. I think that there is enough evidence that warrants seeing Camille and Maximilien’s relationship as a ‘friendship torn apart but the revolution’, but could it in fact be something more that the chain of events of the mid-1790s ended up destroying?

(aka the good old “were they gay?” question)

It’s probably not surprising to anyone that there is no conclusive evidence that would suggest that either of them was definitely queer or that they were involved in some kind of a relationship. For context, the French Constitutional Assembly did decriminalise homosexuality, since there was simply no mention of private same-sex relationships it in the penal code of 1791.

Of course, there would still be a stigma surrounding queerness, seeing how France was a Catholic country – well, up to that point. On the other hand, it is also important to remember that anyone who received a higher education at that time would be well versed in classical authors (Greek and Roman that is), so they would have a framework for a positively viewed queer attraction/relationship (I'm mostly thinking of a kind of Alcibiades/Socrates vibes here. I think it sort of fits? Well it does in my headcanon anyway...). Camille especially seemed to be really into classics, making references to classical authors, history or mythology in approximately every other sentence.

CAMILLE – VICES HONTEUX AND A POSSIBILE BICON

If we consider Camille, I think it is clear that he was attracted to women. I think that the historical sources show that he genuinely did love his wife - Lucile - although it may also be true he was bit of a cad. There is a whole deal with him and Lucile’s mother with whom he apparently exchanged some flirty letters? I honestly need to look into it more at some point.

That said, attraction to women of course doesn’t exclude attraction to men. The one thing that would suggest Camille might have pursued a same-sex relationships is the reference to “vices honteux“ (shameful vices), which Saint-Just claims were attributed to Camille by Danton. We also learn from Robespierre’s note that this refered to something that was ‘totally unrelated to the revolution’.

So we know it’s something that would be seen as ‘shameful’ behaviour, but nonetheless a private matter. Could it be interest in same-sex relationships? It’s of course hard to say, but the theory is not completely implausible. For a discussion about this, I recommend this article.

MAXIMILIEN – A CONFIRMED BACHELOR?

With Maximilien Robespierre, it gets a little more complicated. He was essentially a confirmed bachelor, living with a family that adored him but that was not his own (and also a dog. He had a dog.) Talk about a found family trope!

Some sources claim that he was engaged to Éléonore Duplay, but Robespierre’s sister for one vehemently denies this. It’s true that he could probably easily have married her – I can’t imagine her family being opposed to it, far from it probably – but the fact is that for one reason or another, he did not.

He also didn’t really seem to capitalise on his massive popularity among the Parisian women. (Though, to be fair, neither did Rousseau and he was… well I guess he was his own version of heterosexual.)

Sure, one can interpret that as Robespierre being a workaholic or putting the revolution above everything else, but I personally think it is very possible that he would be considered to be on the asexual spectrum by today’s standards.

That said, although France was moving away from institutionalised religion at that point, Catholic guilt could certainly play a role, especially in someone who prided himself in his moral conduct and was told to be rigid about the rules. So the possibility of him being closeted as an explanation for his lack of interest in women would also not be completely off the table.

As to Camille and Maximilien being together in some way? I think there is certainly a precedence for this type of relationship in adolescence. Seeing that they have studied together (and shared enthusiasm for classics probably), it is not impossible, though of course, it is highly speculative.

I think it is also fair to say that Robespierre went above and beyond for Camille until the last few months. That is something he probably would have not done for many other people. He actually said as much himself:

“Learn, Camille, that if you were not Camille, one could not have so much indulgence for you.“

Was it because Camille was universally liked by the revolutionaries for all the good he has done? Possibly, but I think one can also read more into it. It certainly suggests that Camille was special in some way, and the fact that Robespierre uses ‚one‘ instead of ‚I‘ does not necessarily mean he is not speaking about himself here.

CAMILLE AND MAXIMILIEN IN THE MEDIA

When it comes to media portrayal, the relationship often comes across as queer-coded - to an extent.

In La Révolution française, this aspect is more prominent between Robespierre and Saint-Just, but with some well-timed smiles and glances, it almost reads as a tragic love triangle between the three. There are some unfortunate implications however, mainly that the hints of Robespierre's queerness in the movie are implicitly associated with his descent to tyrany. Ugh. (And let's face it, a kind of effeminacy linked to villainy as well. Honestly, who thought that kind of portrayal would be a good idea? Kudos for making a historical movie about the French Revolution come across as homophobic I guess.)

Hilary Mantel straight-up makes Camille Desmoulins bisexual (ish?) in A Place of Greater Safety, though there are <a lot of> issues with that portrayal, as discussed here (watch me linking another mutual's great post! Frevblr is truly the best). Not sure how the relationship with Robespierre is presented here since it’s one of the books I’ve been in the middle of for months.

And then there’s Stanisława Przybyszewska of course. She would honestly warrant a separate post, but long story short: in her works, there is no doubt about the fact that she portrays the relationship between them as queer. She invokes the Erastes/eromenos dynamic between them (quite explicitly, referring to Camille as an ephebe at one point) and makes the attraction between the two seem palpable. There is plenty of queer (under)tones to be found in The Danton Case, but in Last Nights of Ventôse , she straight up interprets the fall of the Dantonists as Camille running into Danton’s arms to spite Robespierre for snubbing him and rejecting his devotion (romantic advances?). And it gets quite physical – not in a way that would warrant an E rating, but it would certainly deserve one for the sheer emotional intensity.

[potatosonnet]

Watched La Révolution Française, part one was amazing, part two is unhinged gay drama at its finest

[diana-andraste]

Je ne vois pas la [femme] cachée dans la forêt La Révolution surréaliste, Paris no. 12, December 15, 1929

The Surrealist group around Magritte's I do not see the (Woman) hidden in the Forest

[argentangelhelps]

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[bonbonanza]

[o-link]

La Liberté guidant le peuple de Delacroix

[ecofmaster]

wait what is the revolution??

also hi :3 🎀💖

BRUH

MY HEADER IS PROPAGANDA

MY PROFILE HAS A REVOLUTIONARY JACKET

MY PROFILE SAYS MY NAME IS REVOLUTIONIST ECOF

How did you manage to ignore all of that and not notice there is A WAR going on?!?!?!

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I am fighting a war against @21ducky aka the queen.

And I'm winning.

I also have an omniversal being on my side.

(My OC)

(also when I talk with parentheses it's not canon)

(just to clear that up)

Plz join the revolution

We are the cooler side

[sansterreurnivertu]

Thanks for voting in Best Camille poll. Napoleon swept in the early going, but LRF made a late surge. Since it was so close, a runoff will be held.

[bizarreauhavre]

Guillotine with figure.

[empirearchives]

“He [Napoleon] remained deeply attached to the refusal of the Ancien Régime, to the refusal of national degradation in the face of the Bourbons and aristocratic Europe. It is from this refusal that he will draw the strength to think and set up this powerful resistance movement which will be the return from the island of Elba in March 1815. This is why the forces of the Holy Alliance reject him, ostracizing him from humanity as an ‘anarchist’. He was in his time ‘the revolutionary emperor’ because his conquest was transformative for the social order.”

— Antoine Casanova, Vive la Révolution: 1789-1989: Réflexions autour du bicentenaire

[roehenstart]

Toussaint L'Ouverture by George De Baptiste.