#kotlc animation series

[jkriordanverse]

sophie foster animation series vision when-

[winwin17]

No one ever talks about how Sophie starts a new life in the Lost Cities and has to figure out all over again things like what her favorite food and her favorite animal are.

[characterswithcolorsnamesfight]

Prelim Poll 24

Propaganda here

[obsidiandious]

I love when I think I’m past my old hyper fixations and then I just reminded of them and boy do a want to redraw that oc, and rewrite that fic idea 12 year old me had, and oh yeah I remember that fandom inside joke, oh we were kinda dumb for that theory in hind sight.

[the-way-astray]

i would’ve accepted a book 9.5 if it had been from marella’s pov and started where stellarlune ended (like unlocked did with legacy)

[xoxotwig]

i brought this up a few weeks ago with my younger sibling, and i still stand by it- the whole idea of a live action movie for a series where so many of the components would either cost way too much and look like crap or just flatout be impossible to do is not very compelling. the problem is is that the plans for the movie is already underway, and i wouldn’t know the first thing about getting a say in it- what i’m saying is this, more or less: if disney does this right (which i very highly doubt that they will) good on them, but i will not be satisfied :(

Ok so ik that they r like already making a keeper movie, (possibly- how longs has the wait been so far?) but am I the only one who thinks it would b waaayy better as like an animated show??

Like hear me out like half the book’s dialogue happens telepathically, so either the movie just has a bunch of rly random moments where the characters start staring at each other or they do like a weird echoey sound effect 2 make it sound like it’s in their heads. Neither sounds good 2 me

Also Ik that cgi is like rly good now, but I still live in constant fear of like a rly cursed looking cgi Sander (and Ro, and Calla, and any other non elf character) plus just a lot of things like vanishing and Sophie’s jacked inflicting would translate better as like a 2d animation

Last thing I wanna say is, when u make a book in2 a movie, u gotta cut stuff out- that’s just how it works. No1 wants 2 watch a 4 hour movie. But I just feel like there is 2 much stuff that’s 2 important 2 cut out. I feel that way about a lot of books. That’s why I’m happy they’re making Percy Jackson in2 a show, and why I think they should do the same with keeper

[tourmalinaer]

yapping session time!!

in my unrealistic fantasies, where kotlc and tlos both get live actions that are made in simultaneous timeframes, dex dizznee and conner bailey are played by the same person.

i do think that they would also be killer as animated series, though. these book universes are both magical asf, and I wouldn’t be surprised if either (or both) went this route.

it’s probably just the strawberry blond hair and blue eyes, but like hear me out

like come on. they’re like basically the same person, looks-wise. you can’t even say that one author copied the other since they were both published within like, three months of each other

idk who, but if it was possible to child star in two long ass tv series/movie sagas at the same time, they could totally be played by the same personnn

it’s extremely illogical and quite possibly impossible, but a girl can dream, right? (I would be fangirling over both 🎀)

yapping session over

[creetchure]

politely, to the people in the kotlc fandom complaining about the new post abt keefe befriending an animal and saying they're too old for this: yes. you are. this book series is intended for 6th graders who *do* care about what animal he'll be befriending. you are not the target audience.

i love this series, i'll finish it. but i'm more than aware that as an adult, it's not for me. it's not for you. take the books as they are, targetted at tweens.

[myfairkatiecat]

I definitely agree and on a poll a while back that I made the fandom voted that they’d prefer an animated series to a live action movie, but honestly I’ll take anything we can get at this point 😭

tbh the kotlc movie rlly should be animated

[an-j8]

if only kotlc would have an animated series like arcane instead of a movie bro

[the-great-gullon-incident]

Reasons why I want a kotlc adaption to be animated

They won’t have to deal with 21 year olds playing a 14 year olds

The fantasy elements would look better and more natural

I want to make an abridged series and that’s alot easier with animation than live action.

[homo-beehive]

sometimes i think about keeper of the lost cities (it is my special interest) and go “holy shit how is this a middle grade series”

so here is an incomplete list of things that happen in kotlc that would get a kotlc movie’s rating moved to R (read at your own risk).

kidnapping

torture

horse copulation

graphic violence

graphic birth

unspecified but apparently flavorful cursing

human experimentation

body horror

very detailed depictions of almost-deadly allergic reactions

non-consensual drugging. a lot of it. of CHILDREN

and here is a list of things that i think the US government would hate about kotlc

criticism of government and discussion of how one should handle being in a position of power (you should not enjoy being powerful)

elfin society has a eugenics problem and this is consistently criticized

queer coding isn’t even coding atp marella is GAY gay

and finally, criticisms i have of kotlc.

weird eurocentric beauty standards

tam and linh. great characters. CONSTANTLY fetishized bc they’re asian. sophie calls them k-pop idols, anime characters, etc. from what i can tell, though, they’re vietnamese. LET THEM BE VIETNAMESE WITHOUT COMPARING THEM TO EVERY EAST ASIAN STEREOTYPE

everyone is thin. LITERALLY EVERYONE. why is everyone thin and why does thin equal beautiful. shannon messenger explain your biases challenge

there are SO many poc in the books, but elf culture is shown as a monolith. show the cultural nuances that come from before humans and elves separated. i want to see the human influences in their clothing, hairstyles, accents, vernacular. have elves who have historically lived in china wearing something similar to hanfu. give tam and linh ao dai. give me a nigerian elf with fulani braids. give me culture through style and bodies and voices and music. i want to see it. it’s beautiful and it is NOT shown enough

dex needs more page time.

alden and della are NOT criticized enough. they are complicit. they are part of the problem in the lost cities. they are not all bad, but they are not all good either. CRITICIZE THEM, SHANNON.

[kitttttchaos]

MAKE KOTLC ANIMATED

I’m so apprehensive towards the Keeper of the Lost Cities movie, because how??? I think the first book could adapt somewhat well to film, but Sophie spends a lot of time at school, and I don’t think people who aren’t fans of the books will want to watch that.

But then there’s the issue of every book after that. You’d have to cut down so much, and even then you’d end up with eight and a half Lord of the Rings films, plus an Oppenheimer for Flashback. And although that could be an epic series, it’s unlikely that the producers will get greenlit for every single book, and it’ll be a case of The Mortal Instruments or something.

I am BEGGING the producers to PLEASE turn KotLC into an animated series. Episodic story-structure is much more forgiving than a film arc when it comes to cutting things out, and I know that Shannon says it’s not an episodic story, but you could easily end an episode the exact same way she ends chapters. Plus, her cliffhangers would also translate well to television. With animation, you can design the world and the abilities of the characters much better than with CGI, and it’s a little more cost effective because you wouldn’t have to use a volume stage. Also, working with animation decreases the chances of actors getting brutally harassed because they look different from the characters in the books, like what happened with Percy Jackson (God bless Leah). Also, Shannon comes from an art and screenwriting background, so she might be able to be involved with the process of adapting the novels a little more than if it was a traditional film.

Does anyone else feel similarly?

[sophitz]

i think disney should option the kotlc movie rights back out to an obscure anime studio and let them make it into a magical girl tv series as god intended

[honeii-puff]

A NEW THING: Conceptualizing Middle-Grade Book Series into YA

Inspired by some stuff @ein-keiser does

So basically I'm going to take a middle grade book series I've read before and adapt it into YA; basically making it more adult. This is mainly for the concept and not me rewriting it all (rewriting 9+ books of KOTLC is not on my to-do list this winter)

And my first one is: KOTLC! Aka one of my favorite middle-grade book series.

(this is also going to be similar to @ein-keiser's format by how he does things)

KEY CONCEPTS:

-In the books, the main kind of focus is taking on the Neverseen as the Black swan, and very focused on the rebel groups. I want to touch on the politics a bit more of it; pointing out all the wrongs of the Council, The Neverseen, and the Black Swan, show how all of them have flaws in the way they handle things. -Sophie isn't going to have as many abilities, since I think 5 is overwhelming for both her and the readers. She'll keep her Telepathy and Inflicting from Elvin abilities and have her teleporting from the Alicorn DNA, but i think I'm going to erase the Polygot ability and streamline the Enhancing ability to just having more enhanced Telepathy and Inflicting instead of being essentially a battery for others. -The Moonlark symbolism is definitely going to be more prominent, about equally as prominent as the Black Swan's swan and the Neverseen's eye

SETTING:

-The Elvin world will relatively stay the same, but the species will be a bit more intermingled and less separated, aside from the Ogres, who prefer to keep their distance. Elves aren't seen as the superior species by everyone else, but they do have that inflated sense of self. The Elven council is smaller, with 7 members (odd number to prevent ties; a lot of the council members were just... there not really doing anything before), and there are representatives from the leaderships of the other species that they meet with regularly. -The society is very classist against talentless Elves and those of other species who also don't make the bar of what considers them "normal" -Violence is still very frowned upon by the Elves, and Elves themselves are all vegan, but some other races aren't. While they are all about the timeline of extinction, they also don't eat meat because they biologically cannot handle ingesting it. Due to Sophie being genetically weird, she can't eat meat, but her body can handle other animal products (Dairy and Eggs), so she was raised vegetarian (Kinda makes the 'soybean' thing funnier).

THEMES:

-It's definately more political than the original version, diving deeper into the councils wrongdoings, as well as the wrongdoings of the Neverseen and even the Black Swan. Sophie goes rogue for a while before eventually joining back up with The Black Swan. -Less focus on romantic parings when it comes to Sophie; Other characters will get romantic relationships though.

FOXFIRE:

-like the books, Foxfire is a school specifically for Elven Nobilty, though it is like a fancy prep school; there are other general Elven schools that you can go to regardless of class, and some that also have students that are other species. Like a prep school, Foxfire has optional dorms (And are only allowed for those ages 14 and older with permission from their guardian), but students aren't allowed to live in their dorms during breaks from school longer than three days. For that, they are required to be at home with their guardians. -The classes provided in the books stay the same.

CHARACTER DYNAMICS:

-It would be centered around the og main trio (Sophie, Dex, and Marella) more, with Keefe, Fitz, and Biana joining in (ofc the Twins when they come along too) - The stuff with Dex having a crush on Sophie will be omitted, instead having Dexiana coming later in the books - Keefe and Fitz stay close through the books instead of distancing from each other. -Stina and Maruca wont be as big of characters

aaand there we go