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Tension rippled in the air as Lance stared at Keith in the flower field on his family farm. He clutched the juniberry flower he’d picked tightly, the sun beating down on the both of them as silence persisted. It was the first sunny day of the entire week.
Keith’s expression was contorted into one of sympathy, which stirred dormant fear and resentment inside of Lance all at once. His long black ponytail barely lifted with a slight breeze as he opened his mouth.
“Lance… that’s, well,” Keith started, jaw open and closing like he didn’t know how to respond. “I’m honored, really. I mean, you’re one of my best friends. You’re my best friend.”
Lance’s heart cracked. He stopped breathing. He waited, disbelieving, sure that he hadn’t been wrong.
“But I thought that you liked me,” he weakly protested, his voice thin. “All those years we spent, I was sure that I remembered something there. I was too blind to see it then! I wasn’t ready.” Keith’s answering smile was both delicate and nostalgic.
“I did like you then,” he agreed. “In all that time it took you to realize, though, I was trying to move on. Lance, you saw so much of what mattered, and that wasn’t me at the time. It’s okay. I just need you to let me go now.”
“No. This can’t be it. We were supposed to go out together, I know it. You know it too. We’re two halves, man, and we aren’t going to be the same alone. Please don’t punish me for not seeing it sooner, okay? I was so young. We all were.”
Keith turned away. “Thanks for inviting me to the farm Lance. This week was relaxing, it was fun, but I don’t think I should stay much longer.” He started to walk to the barn where his ship was hidden.
“Fine, Kogane, run away again,” Lance hissed at his retreating back. He reeled back as if he'd been slapped. “We’ll just end up here again and again. I can’t be late every time.”
Keith shrugged as he pushed open the door. “A broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.”
Lance scoffed. "I'm not broken."
"Do you know that?"
The barn door thudded shut.
#klance except what the fuck was i on when i wrote this#klance except you hate them#klance#lance mcclain#keith kogane#klance fic#angst#klance angst#klangst#so sorry guys myyyyy badddd (everyone throws tomatoes)
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can i confess something else that will absolutely get me stoned in the town square since im dropping my unpopular opinions. I don’t like altean broadsword Lance. i already disliked red paladin Lance. the broadsword was like rubbing salt in the wound. why couldn’t he have his own niche. why was his character development just making him keith. i understand that it was like “he accepts that he doesn’t have to be a leader and excels as a co-leader and you can find happiness that way yada yada yada”. but you could’ve done that without making him keith. also now give him something unique, cool, that falls in line with his sniper bit. i’m not saying just give him another gun, im saying give him something quiet and lethal. like a garotte. yeah i want garotte lance.
i yap a lot more in my notes by the way if you were interested in other unpopular opinions. don’t send me hate messages or comments i won’t read it and will block viciously i also will not be debating this this is my hill to die on <3
#voltron#if you wanna hate on me uh maybe don’t#i just also think everyone’s writing was lazy except allura’s by the end#i don’t go into RP/BP klance posts and hate on them so don’t come into my space i’m warning you im liberal with the block button#that’s my OPINIOOONNNNNN#voltron legendary defender#moths unpopular opinions#i hate red paladin lance and black paladin keith im not sorry#i also dislike the idea that the black paladin has a designated right hand man (figuratively)#that feels unfair in a way i can’t explain#to me#black paladin is someone that creates harmony in the group#not necessarily is the Ultimate Most Important dude#but the guy that can listen to all the noise and filter it out and come up with reasonable ideas and facilitate discussion#and make well informed snap decisions to guide the team#i don’t think there’s space for a right hand#moth speaks#lance mcclain#and i hate that shiro got side lined because they shot themselves in the foy#foot#anyways having a lion swap betrays the fundamentals of voltron we were introduced to#you can’t introduce a hard magic system and then say no thanks#like oh ok i guess it doesn’t matter if the lion chooses the paladin whatever#which by the way is my biggest issue with season one#i think it was structured badly and having allura designate lions from the get go also betrayed the principle#which you could argue for the lion swap using that argument but lance is really the only one who was without a doubt chosen by his lion#so#no#anyways#thanks for listening to me yap
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I STILL NEED TO FINISH SEASON 8 luckily I found a google drive with all the episodes so I can finish the show BUT
VOLTRON THOUGHTS!!!!
-I don’t think I actually watched the show the first time I watched it cause everything was new to me except for the stuff that was in the AvoRabo reaction videos+I didn’t even finish the show the first time around
-I yearned for more of the characters themselves the entire show. There were so many times where I just felt like I didn’t care about the plot and wanted to see the characters actually interact.
-I wish we got more Hunk dialogue that wasn’t fat jokes. I really would’ve cared about him more in the show itself if it wasn’t for that
-I miss my wife tails (Pidge)
-Ngl I did not care for most of what we saw of Keith and Shiros backstories and arcs and stuff because I didn’t care about them as characters. They were all plot and no personality most of the show. I couldn’t even name a hobby they have even if I tried really hard
-I have a headcanon that Lance got a buzz cut before he went to the garrison and he had been trying to grow his hair back out since which is why it looks like that.
-Honestly I think the Klance art is cute and I see the vision. But it’s not my thing. Honestly, I dig Plance (this may be biased because I initially got into VLD because of a friend who shipped Plance and Ngl I’d rather ship Pidge with myself I love Pidge) and Heith more
-Pidge is hot I love Pidge
-I see Pidge as nonbinary but I respect the people who hc them as a trans guy or even a trans girl I think that’s cool as hell. I’m just nonbinary so I’m somewhat projecting.
-Lance is so bisexual I like to think Pidge was like how he realized he was bi. But also because I’m not totally against Klance, I like to think he didn’t think he could possibly like guys and so his crushes on guys kind of like manifested as insecurity and jealousy and that’s what was going on with him and Keith.
-I wish Hunk and Keith would’ve interacted more
-I like Punk as besties they’re so best friends
-hc that Punk is actually punk
-I’ve only watched the first episode of season 8 but I feel like Pidge is getting done so dirty
-the callback to the old Voltron is cool but I kind of hated the way they did it
-Why did I care more about Sven getting hurt in the alternate reality episode than I did for most of Keith’s backstory stuff
-I heart Allura so much omg there was one episode where she fucking threw Shiro through that door and I was like WOAAAAHHHH
-They did her so dirty towards the end of the show and Allurances development had nearly no build up. I don’t hate Allurance but it’s just :|
-I like how Pidge is thought of as a voice of reason but they’re not. Girl snuck into a government facility with a new identity and had got into their systems multiple times before. They are insane in the best way I love them
-I cut my hair because of Pidge I’m ngl with you guys they’re so gender
-Pidge Holtttt
-I wish we got to know why Matt nicknamed Pidge that. Like where did that come from. Like I know the real reason is because the original shows but like I mean in universe.
-guys I’m literally Pidge Holt I’m also Italian
-I wish Romelle was an actual character
-Veronica is hot
-Pidge Holt looks somewhat similar to my irl partner fun fact
-I love Pidge and Matt’s dynamic they’re so cutie patootie :(((
-this might just devolve into me obsessing over Pidge
-GARFLE WARFLE SNICK 🔥🔥🔥🔥
-I loved how silly the Galran team was in that episode
-I loved seeing Zarkon and Honerva in their backstory they were kind of cutie patootie
-I also loved Monsters and Mana
-I also loved Lotors generals but I wish Zethrid had more dialogue other than “punch stuff >:(“
-I can’t believe I didn’t appreciate Coran before. I love him, he’s so silly.
-I think too many people simplify Pidge to smol gremlin and I hate it.
-Some of the outfits I see people put Keith and Lance in are so not them. Keith is NOT going to wear an eboy outfit
-I hate the way they did Keith becoming the black paladin I’m sorry
-some of the battles were such bullshit I’m sorry like I know it’d be boring if Voltron was literally invincible to everything but it’s supposed to be the most powerful weapon??? A lot of battles were really boring too.
-also why is there ALWAYS something like we couldn’t even have a nice Pidge and Matt reunion they got interrupted by that one guy.
-Honestly I was never fully convinced on the bond they told us the paladins had. I feel like I didn’t see enough to fully believe they were like a team and friends like that
-Tbh I never cared about Keith and Shiro as much as I think I was supposed to.
-I hated how 90% of Lances interaction with Pidge was just them saying something sciency and him going “wtf r u saying” THEY WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL HE SHOULD KNOW SOMETHINGGG IDC IF THEY WERE FOCUSING ON DIFFERENT THINGS LET HIM BE SMART MORE
-I love how the Paladins gradually started using Altean/Space time measurements I think that’s a cool immersive detail to bring home the point that they’re not on Earth and they’re dealing with Alien civilizations and stuff
-what was the deal with the pure yellow eyes, the Balmerans have them, the lions have them, the Galra has them, is there any significance to them???
-I’m not normal about Pidge guys
#pidge holt#VLD#voltron#allura#hunk garrett#heith#plance#klance#allurance#vld coran#coran hieronymus wimbleton smythe
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KLANCE MOMENTS THAT STILL LIVES INSIDE MY HEAD AFTER 8YEARS BUT WITH THE EYES OF A 20YO
1. We are a good team
Remember how we were all so moved up by that one scene where they just stare at each other and say something meaningful AFTER A FIGHT (where Lance was severely injured). We were all freaking out but it was totally normal that Keith would be emotional by the fact that one of his teammate was okay, we were just freaking out bc the scene was in purple bc the spaceship was infested by the galra which means everything was totally not trying to say anything else, it was just coherent :,)
2. Lance and Keiths drones scene

We were so thirsty for anything that even just a little fight (which was totally a daily occurance) would be turned into something else. Like yeah they were bumping into each other but people were freaking out by saying they basically accidently kissed like what????
3. The elevator scene

Okay imma be honest this scene is quite suggestive especially when your primarly audience are teenage girls that are into shipping boys. But now that i look at it with my adult eyes i just cant imagine how incomfortable that must been to be back to back topless with someone you can't stand. Like the friction of the skin it itches my brain. Also the shot of Keith's foot? Was it really necessary
4. Keith? My man

Again what were we thinking??? They just bonded over a little something ofc Lance was happy that Keith was being nice with him bc he thinks that he hate him (which he don't). I dont even know what to say but dear god that scene was so important to klance shippers. Anyway we were thirsty god
5.Scene where Lance goes to Keith to talk to him about not feeling like he belongs in the crew after Allura piloted the blue lion
Basically just a normal conversation. They've been through so much together and Keith is their designated leader, so ofc hes going to talk to Keith about his place in the team and ofc Keith is going to reassure him that his place is with them bc he actually cares about him since they need to bond to form Voltron??? But yeah this scene is cute and it still makes me go aaawww
6.Blaytz (original paladin of the blue lion) being implied that he might be queer
Okay Ive only remembered this while rewatching the show but i remember everyone went crazy bc if the original blue paladin was queer (implied during one scene that didnt even last 3sec) that means Lance was queer as well. Like what were we thinking??? Were we out of our minds (yes definitly and im still ashamed) (but shoutout to Blaytz for being the best original paladin nothinh can makes me hates him)
7. The sunset scene
OKAY LISTEN IDC WHAT YOU SAYS IDC ABOUT ANYONE'S OPINION BUT THIS SCENE HAS ME BAWLING
AS A 20YO WATCHING THE SHOW NOW, THIS EXACT SCENE CONVINCED ME OF KEITH'S FEELING FOR LANCE. IDC ABOUT ANY OTHER "SUGGESTED KLANCE" SCENE BEFORE THIS ONE, THIS SCENE IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL KLANCE SCENE AND IDC IF ANYONE SAYS THAT KEITH SAID THAT BC THEYRE JUST FRIENDS.
AS A GAY MAN WHO HAD AN HOMOEROTIC SITUATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER GUY BEFORE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU ONLY SAY THIS KIND OF STUFD TO THE GUY YOU LIKE BC YOURE TOO AFRAID TO TELL YOUR FEELINGS TO YOUR FRIEND IN FEAR OF REJECTION AND BECAUSE YOUVE JUST LEARNED HES GOING ON A DATE WITH AN AMAZING GIRL AND YOU ONOW THEYLL BE HAPPY TOGETHER WHILE YOU JUST WATCH WONDRRING WHY YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING
(this scene hits too much home than it should be and i think i only speaks with my feelings for this one)
ANYWAY
As a 20yo person with 8years of hindsight I'll say that Keith definitly had feelings for Lance, the sunset scene was placed on a perfect time while this dialogue could have been said anywhere else in the season or even the show, and Ive just recently refinished the entire show and Keith never said something so emotional to someone except Shiro (but he considers him as a brother and he was about to kill him so i understand the whole emotional dialogue).
As for Lance, I doubt he has feelings for Keith canonically but hey that doesn't mean we can't imagine things.
Looking back now, I realize how fucked up some of us were for this ship and we probably bored everyone of the cast with this freaking ship. Honestly Voltron is such a good show with good animation and well written characters and we shouldnt have been so angry that a silly little ship wasnt endgame while they gave us such beautiful content for two years(except the end of s8, sleep with one eye open).
Be fucking grateful you dipshits. We werent queerbaited, we had others queer reprensation throughout the show (alien lesbians my beloved) and Voltron isnt a romance show
But still kind of sad that Klance isnt canon but thats my 12yo talking i guess
#voltron#vld#vld keith#vld lance#vld klance#klance#its fucking 2024 why am i still watching this show#voltron nothing can makes me hate you#except the feral fandom#but hey its been 8years yall have grown up right#still scared to post anything that doesnt agree with the klance narrative#thats ptsd from the fandom#im scared some people will cyberbully me for not agreeing with this
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I saw your Voltron pfp and had to ask
Do you remember how antis would (and still do) hate Shiro x anyone except for maybe Allura, but turn around and ship Klance despite them being 17 and 18 respectively in the beginning, which is considered "bad" by them? I don't agree with the antis, but the double standards are crazy
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Okay, if you were asked who are in Merlin BBC & Voltron that you can see based on canon that are gay/bi/pan/demi, which characters are they? Why?
What a fun ask I'm totally not doing to procastinate on cooking... XD
BBC Merlin
Arthur Pendragon is, in my head, demiromantic and bisexual... It sort of depends on the circumstances/episode. Arthur needs a very long time to really feel connections with people and only starts to consider love after he really gets to know them, hence his constant search for true love in the show. With Merlin I'm not entirely sure if he was attracted to him instantly, strangely enough feeling a connection from the moment they met, or if it takes him till the end of the series when Merlin confesses his magic and finally shows his true self to realise the depth of his feelings.
Merlin is, well... Bi Bi Bi. A disaster bi in fact. With a preference for sweaty men in metal boxes, he's not very peculiar. However, Merlin is a one person hyperfixation kind of guy. Most people are convinced that Merlin's gay.
Gwen: I feel like most people in BBC Merlin are bi and Gwen is no exception. Like Merlin, she prefers the hero type in metal uniforms. But she also had a thing for Morgana in the beginning.
Morgana: lesbian. I have never seen a woman so disinterested in men, I'm not surprised that they casted Katie McGrath in supergirl as supergirls love interest. I might settle for homoromantic and asexual. But definitly in love with Gwen in the very beginning.
Sir Leon, my beloved, the immortal, the one and only, the eternal suffering aro/ace. I don't have to explain this one. The only counter moment is the Lamia episode where Leon suddenly develops interest in women out of nowhere. My personal take is that anyone could be fallen under a Lamia's spell, this one just had a taste for men (and male presenting).
Sir Elian: once upon a time I clocked them as nonbinary and sadly that's as far as I thought into this character. Pretty sure he's aromantic. He/they pronouns. I dunno, I don't think Elian would conform to anything if given a choice. Aromantic too, I think. Like Leon, there is no interest there, but he does play around with Percival and Gwaine quite often, so I'd take that as allosexual.
I am excluding Gwaine because I think canon Gwaine is written as a straight oblivious fuckboy. Albeit a kind one XD fanon Gwaine is often poly/ pan... Or into apples. Lmao XD and I'm not sure about Percival because the man has a dead wife and kids.
Voltron
Keith: with his lack of interest in women, he can only be gay. That man looks at no one quite the same as he looks at Lance. what the hell was the whole bonding thing if not a hint for post canon klance? Sorry, not sorry XD rivals to best friends to lovers.
Lance: *bi bo bi* bisexual lighting Lance. Doesn't matter if you prefer klance or shallura, this man is a walking bi flag. I don't know what you mean by proof, just look at this wiggly boy with the fingerguns. He can't even sit straight! Can't do math either. He's perfect!
Shiro: probably the only character in my entire history of shipping that I would unqueer without feeling bad about it. I know he's gay, I just don't really see it in the writing. Of course there aren't always clear signs that someone is gay which is why this is good rep actually (+he's married), but you asked me for proof in the show and all I see is that this man is a dad. That's his gender and his orientation and that's all I really need to know.
Pidge: aro/ace because I love my aroaces and this child loves robots and robots only. Also nonbinary/genderqueer. Pronouns: fuck/off XD
I think Lotor should have been bi. Pre-canon Lotor had us Langsters ship Lotor x Lance and it was so much fun :D
Bob: gender: evil, orientation: villain. I hate this guy
Coran: the georgous man is either gay or pan. More likely pan because I vaguely remember he had a son?
I hope I answered your question reasonably enough XD thank you for the ask, anon :3
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Hello! Really random but I was talking to a friend about the deal with the “evil altean” alternative universe that unfortunately exists and knew you had some thoughts on it!
I want to be able to explain it better but you have a better understanding than I do! I hope you don’t mind me asking your thoughts on it!
Hollow-dweller has explained it much better than i ever could here and here, and most of my reply is just giving out the same points they made. Anyway in my opinion Hole in the Sky is a shit ass episode and i deeply resent it.
To start with this episode is another example of Reverse Racism the vld writers love so much and one of the many many many many Many examples of the fact that vld is very much written by white writers for a white audience and focusing on a white UsAmerican narrative that pretends to be progressive and inclusive but is absolutely shallow in its ideals and is not at all sympathetic towards minorities, victims of oppression, and those who are not white american. Furthermore this episode is yet another example of this shows contant need to criticize and punish Allura for wanting to reconnect with her dead people and culture.
First of all lets look at the motivation of Empress Allura that led her into making a colonizing mind-washing empire out of her once peace loving diplomatic people. Apparently it is similar to main reality in that the Galran attack and Alfor was killed, however this time they went with Allura's plan in the first episode to bring voltron together which leads to the Galran empire's defeat and Altea becoming the colonizing force instead (i rewatched that stupid episode just to answer this ask, so yes this is literally what happened in that episode. While the evil alteans dont say that Empress Allura brought the voltron together, it was jds who mentioned in an interview that that's what happened)
Problem with that is we already know how Allura would react to such situation! In canon! And sure she was (rightfully) hurt and angry about it, but she never let go of her kindness because of it! She lost her father And her planet And everyone she ever loved and still remained a kind and giving person to her own detriment.
And inspite of what your average Allura-hating Keith/Lotor/Klance stan would have you believe, her hatred towards Galran was never this deep to the point of enacting unjust violence on them, let alone destroying the universe because of it. Yes she was distrusting of Ulaz except he also broke into her castle and beat up her teammates which most likely did colour her opinion. Yes she was cold towards Keith except it only involved side-eye and a cold comment for which she apologized in the very next episode without anyone else's prompting. And people bring up her actions against Lotor after his reveal and rage against good!Zarkon to say she's a bigot, and i am sorry i don't have to explain how that's just plain stupid, all i can say is that even after everything the stans still think that she didn't deserve to kick both their asses let alone genuinely consider she was in the wrong then i am sorry but there really is no hope for them.
Also even if she had a damning corruption arc, do you really think Coran and the paladins of the old who very likely were alive to defeat the galran would have let her go that far? Do you really think she wouldn't have crumbled immediately if Alfor's Ai had come to know about this and looked at her with shock, pity, and disappointment?
Not to mention Alteans were established to be a peace loving diplomatic species. How did they end up being this colonizing brainwashing race? This was certainly not written to be a nuanced take on topics like "trauma and tragedy causing a massive shift in a culture causing continued cycle of violence" or "Oppression is relative in nature", because this was only one episode. One episode and the only thing we get is "All Alteans in this reality are evil" with no "it's not black or white" notion this series wants to preach but absolutely fails at.
This show does this thing a lot where it's much more critical of victims being angry at their treatment while coddling the perpetrators. Galra get the "They are not All Bad, they were just following Zarkon's orders who is also Not All Bad poor baby just got corrupted by bad quintessence and also if you are mean to them you are just as bad uwu 🥺🥺🥺". Meanwhile Alteans are just, "All Alteans in this reality are evil", and there's certainly no corrupting purple quintessence involved cause otherwise everything would be purple.
And yeah i knowww it's because it's one off episode vs entire series but it still could and should have been better. Have Sven be an Altean which actually makes sense given Guns of Gamara represent Blade of Marmora in this reality, or make it so it's not Allura who created this empire, or better yet! Just Don't Write that episode! One of the links i added above talks about an alternative dark!Allura which i found to be much more interesting and provided for a much more meaningful introspection and possible arc for Allura without turning into another "Oppressed can be as bad oppressors" shallow life lesson white people seems to think is height of nuanced truthful worldview. You could have had a Galra-won bad end timeline to establish multiple realities. There were just so many options.
And of course this episode is another example of putting down characters of colour to put fucking Keith on pedestal. All throughout the episode is Keith as this "logical, voice of reason who's always correct" white-coded man, While making Allura out to be "illogical dumbass who nearly handed clearly evil alteans an ore that would threaten all the realities all because she wanted the help from those Alteans 🙄🙄🙄" Black-coded woman. Maybe it was her trauma and wishful thinking talking but i feel like the moment she heard them call her Empress Allura while a Shiro looking hates Alteans, she should atleast some suspicions. But nope, Allura has to be an idiot specifically because she wants to get in touch with her culture while Keith is the extremely Specialist Boy who is always right. I fucking hate it here.
And of course the shit cherry on the top of this enormous shit pile of tone-deafness, you have this episode framing Alfor's decision to hide the lions be that if they had formed it.... It would result in evil altean reality. Not because the head of voltron is controlled by Zarkon, not because it's an extremely powerful weapon with very high chance of falling into wrong hands, not because they did not have enough paladins to pilot the whole thing, not because it was literally a losing battle. Nope! Apparently it was possible to win the war 10k years ago, but there was a possibility that living Alteans, including his own daughter would go on to take over the universe for asinine reasons so he pretty much hid the weapon so that the Galran can take over the universe and take over the universe and destroy multiple planets including his own. Yup this is totally a normal and logical thought process to have, nevermind that Alfor's ai literally says they should have gone with Allura's plan in the very first episode. Yup this a totally normal and logical thought process to have/s
Tldr- it's a shit ass episode
Honestly if you want to improve on it/keep it's elements here are my suggestions-
Make it a Lotor focused episode instead of Allura focused episode. Let other reality Lotor be the one who formed the empire instead of Allura. Especially if you want to redeem him. He's the one this obsessed with Alteans and this hateful towards Galran. He's the one who believes in sacrificing as many people as there needs to be in order to achieve peace. (In this episode it is implied he cause the death of many pilots while trying to get the Ore). Let him see this version of him who has achieved what he could only dream of, except he can stare in horror seeing a version of him has become just like their father
Or
2) Make Sven and Slav be unreliable narrators being lied to by Guns of Gamara and the two Alteans we see as lying liars who lie. Make these two Alteans extremists lying to Allura because they truly believed that she would agree with their plans and wanted to impress her. There's no Altean empire just Altean planet ruled by one of Allura's descendant who's trying extremely hard to arrest this extremist almost cultish group. No they haven't captured entire planets but instead kidnapped few aliens and brain washed them and the descendant is trying their best to stop these idiots. Have Sven and Slav be ex-victims of brainwashing by the extremist Alteans only to be "saved" By Guns of Gamara, who is anti-Altean faction who lied to them that the Alteans have colonized the entire universe whereas the truth is Alteans are just.... Alteans. Nothing sinister going on.
#Empty answers#Empty salt#Anyway thank you for asking#The only good thing that comes from this au is Sven and Allura's hair down while wearing an armour look#Man this got long#Also great tragedy- i rewatched this ep specifically to answer this ask#i have watched this episode total of three times in my lifetime making it my most watched episode of vld#Everytime i watch it i find new things that piss me off#I hate this. I do not want to be the person who watched this episode multiple times but i have to#To analyze and shit on it more thoroughly and precise#While i was watching it today it pissed me off so much that i literally have to pause every five minutes and take a walk to calm down
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My favorite tropes in klance fanfics that are never not funny (to me):
"Fighting" over little things
Lance: "I cannot believe you just said that......" Keith: "What?? I stand by what I said. Anchovies are objectively bad and are by far the worst pizza topping." Lance: "What! A pizza without anchovies is like— like a rose without petals! an ocean without waves! a night sky without stars! Keith: "Don't care. They're gross." Lance, theatrically: "You wound me!"
Then bringing the others into it
Lance: "Hunk, are you hearing this nonsense??" Hunk: "Nope, sorry bud, I'm with Keith on this one— anchovies are nasty." Lance: *clutches his chest like he's been fucking shot*
Keith getting confused by Lance's bad flirting but it ends up working on him anyways (i.e. wrong formula right answer)
Lance: "Holy shit, dude. Your hand looks super heavy. Do you want me to hold it for you? Keith, confused: "It's uh... I was— my hand? I— uhh...... yes...?"
Keith pretending he hates pet names/PDA
Lance, planting a wet kiss on Keith's cheek: "Anything for you, baby." Keith, trying really hard not to smile: "Oh my god you're so embarrassing."
Casual sibling-energy banter among the team
Lance: "Pidge is sooooo tiny. She's like. Three feet tall! So cute!" Pidge: "Lance, I swear to God. I will beat your ass." Lance: "Bring it, munchkin. We put out the mousetraps." Hunk: "Oohhh!" *high fives Lance* Pidge: "I am going to bash in your kneecaps." Keith, deadpan: "He'll just stand on the table then." Hunk: "OOHHHH" *high fives Keith* Pidge: *deep inhale* Pidge, eerily calm: "I'm gonna give you guys. a five-second head start... One..." Keith: "Uh... a head start for what?" Pidge: "Two..." Lance: "Wait, like five seconds each or...?" Pidge, gritting: "THREE..." Hunk: "Go go go gogogogogo—"
(unabashedly stole part of that from "Shut Up and Dance With Me" by wittyy_name on ao3)
Everyone knows they're in love EXCEPT them/the team placing bets on them (is it overdone? yes. is it still funny? to me?? also yes.)
Keith: "And uh... guys? There's... one more thing we need to tell you—" Lance, blurting: "WE'RE DATING." Everyone: "..." Pidge: "Fucking finally." Hunk: "Hah! Pay up, guys!" Shiro, pulling a $20 out of his wallet: "Seriously? You guys couldn't wait one more week?" Coran, whispering to Allura: "They weren't courting before??" Allura: "I'm just as confused as you are."
And like. a million other things! i love them!!
#voltron#vld#blorbo#blorbo from my shows#keith kogane#lance mcclain#pidge gunderson#pidge holt#hunk garrett#coran hieronymus wimbleton smythe#his fucking name is so long i love him#princess allura#ao3#klance#klance renaissance#shout out to fan fiction writers#y'all are the best#stal.txt
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okay klance au time
(i don’t think it counts as an au, because it’s not changing canon, its just something that could happen after canon)
warning this is long and hard to understand i cant be bothered. u either get it or you dont.
so i haven’t actually thought out all the details and stuff, this is very much just a thought i had:
It’s set after canon, aka everything stays the same. I KNOWWWW that farm lance gets a lotta hate and i get it trust me, but that also stays the same. Non-negotiable because this whole au basically built around that fact!!! so yeah suck it.
okay so everyone’s doing their thang, the paladins are growing up and like young adults, but they’re not teens anymore!
lance is at the farm, and keith works with the blade of marmora or whatever he ended up doing. i can’t remember but that’s what we’re going with. and you know there’s obviously some klance scenes in the last season and in this au that has developed as the next few years passed.
they might’ve started out hating each other and slowly getting better at standing each other, and then friendship developed into a little more, and now they’re basically dating. except they have never said that they’re dating, but neither of them wants to be with anyone else so it’s fine, they know. and they like it that way, it takes the pressure of. (everyone knows but it’s not something that’s brought up)
and anyway point is keith works in space right? and he comes back to earth often because that’s where they all meet, and they try to meet frequently. and that’s where lance lives, so why wouldn’t he? so he stays there when he visits, and it’s nice.
Lance, as always, goes hand in hand with angst. so add some of that. lance has gotten over his feelings for allura. obviously none of them have fully moved on, but with help from the others (and especially keith) he’s come to terms with that. however, that doesn’t mean it’s not constantly affecting him anymore.
he’s already lost allura, and he’s not actually dating keith, but he’s realized that he might not be as straight as he thought over the last couple years. and maybe there’s more to it than just letting keith stay at his house when he visits because he doesn’t have a house, and more because well he might be dating keith but he doesn’t know if keith considers them that. even if it feels that way sometimes
and he’s worried that it’s gonna be another allura-situation. he doesn’t want that, and keith is out in space trying to spread peace and stuff. and lance worries. lance doesn’t want to lose him before he’s even sure that he had him.
and he’s been trying to ignore that thought because everything is fine. keith wont get hurt. he knows what he’s doing and the war is over, so what’s the chances?
but then keith gets hurt.
and the whole thing basically boils down to lance going straight to proposing. because that’s just what he’s like, it has to be good, it has to be perfect. because keith deserves perfect. and it’s not like he can ask keith if they’re dating.
and this is honestly the part i haven’t thought that much about, this idea is mostly based on the setting. but im thinking he gets some help from the other’s at earth to plan it. everyone gathers at lance’s farm because that’s what they always do when they meet up. and everyone is there because keith comes back injured and stays with lance while he gets better.
and lance is nervous because what if he read all of this wrong, he did imagine the rival thing back at garrison, but the others help calm him down. and idrk how but he proposes to keith and asks him to spend their lives together and whatnot.
they have a BEAUTIFUL wedding, and the flowers that remind him of allura are all over btw. they’re in love and everyone’s happy despite it all.
yeah idrk i haven’t worked it out but i like the story. it’s based in the song Found by Dan Davidson. I think it’s cute and it fits with the farm thing. you have to listen to it to get my vision:
#klance#voltron#vld#voltron legendary defender#lance mcclain#keith kogane#vld au#klance au#kinda#found dan davidson#Spotify#this took so long to type u have no idea#i had to actually think abiut it#im imagining it in my head#its not a full story in my head it’s just vibes and a vauge plotline#langst#just a little bit#blade of marmora keith#bom keith#farmer lance#found klance au
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Intro post :3 !!
hihi! Thought i should finally get around to making one of these so here we go ^^
*everything in this post could be subject to change with time
Basics :
My name is Trey! I am He/him transman and I'm 16 :3
(我见Trey!我是跨性别男人和我今年十六岁:3)
Im a BIG sonic fan, as you'll soon find out lol, BUT i also like Spiderman, Voltron: Legendary Defender, My Little Pony, FNAF, Hatsune Miku, Spy x Family, and a whole bunch of others i cant be bothered to list nor remember ^^
( 我是大sonic。。。,。。。,。。我。。。蜘蛛男人 (?),Voltron:。。。, 我的小马驹,无夜晚在Freddy的(?),Hatsune miku,。。。,和。。。我。。。^^) As much as I like all my interests, it is VERY likely that most of, if not all, of my posts will be sonic franchise related :3
"Rules" :
---- Firstly - DNI's
✦ If you are going to be a hateful a negative person, you can get off of my blog and any other i have right now, because i am not going to tolerate it. Be nice or BEGONE
✦ Any kind of proshipper or anything eg. comship, darkship, all that stuff
✦ honestly thats pretty much it,, just dont be a bitch and its fine lmao (this INCLUDES, but is not limited to; transphobia, homophobia, racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc..)
Other! :
Some ships that I like are
sonadow
metamy
surgamy
blazamy
knuxouge
wavouge
tailsmo
kitails/tailsuname ----
Klance
(theres a few others but i havent watched VLD in ages and kinda forgot all their names icl.. except for like the main main cast..) ----
Main six polycule (MLP)
Literally any main six pairing ngl
Im such a fake fan i forgot their names but youll maybe eventually see them after i reblog a post abt the yuri (background character yuri)
✦ Keep in mind, while i do like the romantic versions of these ships, i also like the platonic parts! I love everything about them and their dynamics ^^
✦ I have an RP blog!! Its @th3-real-sonic and its a metal sonic rp blog :3 im actually super happy with it so far so go check it out ^^
✦ I also have an Instagram :3 I havent posted anything as of now (jan19-25/2025) but i probably will soon. Its @/treymeow_
✦ I also also have a twitch! @/treymeow_ I do minecraft and whatever other free games I find because I have no money lmao
✦ I have a reblog blog!! its just @treymeow-the-sequel
✦ I have an artfight !! go check it out :3
✦ I TAKE REQUESTS.... plis.. tell me what to draw... cuz idk.. hep.. guh..
From now on these will be all my tags! : #my art
all the artwork ive done after posting this intro! I may even go back and add the tag to older artworks
#rambles , #shit post , #reblog
Whatever fuckery I come up with at like 4 am, or just daily musings. reblogs dont come as often anymore cuz i have another blog just for reblogging but sometimes i put put it on here if i have anything to say :3 - these will usually be paired together, alongside #text post, lol
#text post
maybe serious stuff, maybe like big paragraph about a certain details in some media or something, headcanons, lore, whatever
#ask post
responses to whatever you guys ask me :3 idk how much ill use this buuuuut just incase
ok thats all bye

Official posting beginning January 6th 2025
#intro post#what else do ppl put on these//#idk..#sonic#voltron legendary defender#my little pony#fnaf#hatsune miku#i guess?#idk what else to tag with#guh#skibidi toielt#i am sigma#i am skibidi#<< my daily affirmations LMAO
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hi! So, I wanted to write a klance ff in a cool zombie survival au but mid-creating it I realised it wasn't klance dynamic at all but 100% pure jaith material. Except. I haven't even READ jaith yet. Could I possibly get the chance to be guided through my ignorance by the illustrious Official Jaith Guardian themself and get some fanfic recs? Some of your fav headcanons/artists perhaps? also thank you for all your work 🙏
The only jaith fic you need to read is this
All of my headcanons and stuff come from these two fics. Theyre so good. Also be sure to listen to the jaith playlist (in order! Not shuffled) i linked while reading. Double ouchie.
Their relationship is very much a constant push and pull.
Keith pushes james away because he doesn’t even know if he can love and doesnt want to lead james on (aroace spec keith for the win) and because of his perceived faults and flaws, james tries to pull him closer because keith has been one of the only people to like him for him, not for the facade he puts up in public and because he doesn’t care about Keith’s small flaws he makes out to be huge
James pushes keith away out of fear that his constantly suppressed anger and jealousy will rear its head and hurt keith (and also because of internalized homophobia), keith tries to pull him closer because james was the only one who stubbornly stuck by his side even through all the years where he was horrible to james
Basically one of the fundamental differences i feel exists between jaith and klance is the idea that james and keith grew up together and only had eachother for a significant period of time. Keith lost his father and tried closing himself off to the world, but james refused to let that happen. Keith saw right past james’ charade of charming smiles and well ironed shirts to see the real him who was in desperate need of a significant connection. For every insecurity one of them has the other vehemently insists on loving them despite (or because of) it. For every bad thing one of them does the other will insist that its alright and that people grow and change.
They exist together through mutual respect, mutual rivalry, mutual love for eachother, and mutual hatred. They’re complicated little guys but no matter how much they claim to hate eachother they know that if they were separated they’d miss eachother desperately, almost violently.
Only when they’ve matured emotionally do they finally realize just how much they like eachother lol. Things get much better when teenage hormone’s aren’t in the mix
Only when they’re older do they realize how much they needed, and still need, eachother
Theyre made for eachother but the universe seems hell bent on tearing them apart.
They are mirrors of eachother but also opposites. They love eachother so much but dont dare to let that love fully show. Im in pain i hate them sm 😞
Here is a sort of masterlist of my headcanons ive made, and also heres a few more: 1, 2, 3
#voltron#voltron legendary defender#jaith#james griffin#james voltron#keith kogane#keith voltron#shipping#headcanon#jaith is the endgame always#the perfect ship#theyre so angsty i hate my life
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Y’all know that one trope? The Growing up together trope? except they’re not friends as kids. They HATE each other as kids, they barely tolerate each other as teens, then a single event changes the course of events and they start to become friends in their early adulthood. Then they mutually pine for each other for god knows how long??
I’m a SUCKER for that trope.
So please, if you have any klance fics that fit the bill, please share them
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A through Z (minus the ones you've already answered)
A - Ships that you currently like a lot. (They don’t have to be OTPs because not everyone has OTPs.) Friendships, pairings, threesomes, etc. are allowed.
My favourite ship at the moment is FengQing (Feng Xin X Mu Qing from TGCF) and I am constantly talking @astrowaffles 's ear off about them. Platonically, I'm always mentally ill about the Shiratorizawa team and how they all support each other. Family-wise, I can't get Shen Twin aus out of my head
B - A pairing–platonic, romantic or sexual–that you initially didn’t consider, but someone changed your mind.
Yaku and Suga from Haikyuu, both platonic and romantic :) I think either way would be really sweet and funny
C - A ship you have never liked and probably never will.
Shiragoshi. I see no appeal in it for either of them and it kinda just gives me the ick
D - A pairing you wish you liked but just can’t.
Anything with Karasuno first years that aren't the stereotypical main ships except maybe Yamahina. Idk I just feel like Tsuki x either of the volleyball idiots would go terribly and someone would end up getting hurt.
Also, Yachi is very much a lesbian to me and I'm taking that to the grave 🫡
Also, kawagata doesn't click with me. I prefer reongata, since they're both third years and at least had dialogue with each other
For a non Haikyuu pairing, I've got to say giyushino or shinogiyu - I don't know if it's hinted canon or just widely popular but I really can't care for it. I don't hate it, I just have no interest
E - Have you added anything cracky/hilarious to your fandom? If so, what?
I haven't altered the fandom with it but I made #RichPrinceFuckerVirgil a trend with my friends back in 2019
G - Have you ever had an OTP? If so, do you remember your first one? Who was in it?
The timeline gets a bit confuddled here but my first otp was either prinxiety (Roman X Virgil from Sanders Sides) or klance (Keith X Lance from VLD)
I - Has Tumblr caused you to stop liking any fandoms, if so, which and why?
I scoped out the Skulduggery Pleasant fandom and I'm not planning on going back (which sucks because the books are amazing)
K - What character has your favorite development arc/the best development arc?
Either Zuko, Tsukki, Mu Qing, or Ming Fan (can you tell I'm a fan of grouchy people with the ability to do good?)
L - Say something genuinely nice about a character who isn’t one of your faves. (Characters you’re neutral about are fair game, as are characters you merely dislike. Characters that you absolutely loathe with the fire of ten thousand suns are exempt, as there is no point in giving yourself an aneurysm over a character that you hate.)
As someone very neutral over Asahi, I really have to say that he is portrayed as the ace amazingly. Even though he isn't the main character and can't score all the epic points, he's still an inherently powerful force and you always trust in him when the ball goes his way, as this viewer.
M - Name a character that you’d like to have for a friend.
Feng Xin :)
N - Name three things you wish you saw more or in your main fandom (or a fandom of choice).
Reincarnation fics (TGCF)
Multi-chap AU fics (Haikyuu)
ObaMitsu content (KNY)
O - Choose a song at random. Which ship or character does it remind you of?
The song "Black Sheep" by Gin Wigmore reminds me of Hua Cheng/TGCF calamities :))
P - Invent a random AU for any fandom (we always need more ideas).
Sendai Frogs as a forced together bounty hunting crew in a space au that becomes found family 💪
Q - A fandom you’ve abandoned and why.
DSMP/MCYT - after Technoblade sadly passed away and then the finale was handled so clumsily, I just couldn't bother with it anymore. However, I still watch a lot of those YouTubers today, like Tommyinnit and Jack Manifold :)
R - Which friendship/platonic relationship is your favorite in fandom?
Shiratorizawa Third Years for the win!!!!
@/baguantte has an AMAZING piece of fanart for all of them which I regularly return to look at :))
S - Show us an example of your personal headcanon (prompts optional but encouraged)
Shen Yuan was chronically ill before he transmigrated and he died not just due to choking but because a seizure happened during his rage-eating. We know he's an unreliable narrator, hence why he never mentions this - he hated being ill and felt ashamed by it, so he never wants to think about it now he's no longer sick.
A prompt for this could be Shen Qingqui gets wife plotted and the consequence is far too similar to how he lived his old life that he keeps nearly breaking over it. Could lead to an identity reveal or just some good ol' hurt/comfort
T - Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending?
Yamagata has clinical depression. Idrk where this came from but it's something I very much stand by and have lots of interlocking ideas with so, yeah, no one is changing my mind on that.
U - Three favorite characters from three different fandoms, and why they’re your favorites.
Mu Qing (TGCF/Heaven Official's Blessing) - he's my favourite because of his complicated character. He says negative things, the rumours about him is how he is cold and unkind, yet we see his actions and behaviour portrayed very differently. He's a truly complicated guy.
Goshiki Tsutomu (Haikyuu) - I've written an essay on him which I now cannot find??? I'll have to fish it out but basically he's a really well written character whom performs so hard despite the anxiety he's visibly under being in such an infamous team
Shen Yuan (SVSSS/Scum Villain's Self Saving System) - he's a nerd who died and is now a hot guy but has the nerve to complain about it, he's just like me and I love that.
V - Which character do you relate to the most?
It sounds dramatic and emo as fuck, but Mu Qing. I just get him on a very deep level.
W - A trope which you are virtually certain to hate in any fandom.
Major Character Death or just Character Death in general - I always find it very cheap or unfulfilling. To get me on board with Major Character Death takes a LOT
X - A trope which you are almost certain to love in any fandom.
The Girlboss X Malewife ship - I don't mind the genders, I don't care for dynamics... if that ship is in there, it's likely to be my favourite!! See FengQing and KyouHaba for reference lol
Y - What are your secondhand fandoms (i.e., fandoms you aren’t in personally but are tangentially familiar with because your friends/people on your dash are in them)?
Bnha, Bungo Stray Dogs and a bit of Mob Psycho
Z - Just ramble about something fan-related, go go go! (Prompts optional but encouraged.)
AHHHHH OKAY UHHH I accidentally got my mother into not just Haikyuu and Demon Slayer but also TGCF?? We've been watching The Untamed together too - she really wants me to read her manga series Boys Over Flowers and I've been meaning to haha
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So if you know wittyy-name and zizzani fanfic shadow of the past and ghost of the future same time switch concept but different
It's not a time switch it's a dimension switch (it's a season 4 divergent?) the last thing that happens is meeting Lotor...or is it?
And the switch is from the world from the show to one where the gang is in a home of delinquents
That's right they are a bunch of hell raisers, well except for hunk he just followed Lance in.
Shiro is their live in counselor
And this delinquent home is funded by Allura in one of her many humanitarian projects.
Coran is the bus driver/delivery/if you need outside help he's the one to call. Why?
Because the house is in the middle of nowhere, and treated more like a camp than anything.
Keith is an Arsonist that burned down a building
Pidge is hacker who helped him get into that building
Lance nearly killed someone
Hunk helped drive the victim to the hospital
There's reasons why each of them did these things you can even change the reasons if you please
But the only thing that should start the same is pidge and Keith are friends and hunk and Lance are too
Keith and shiro are still brothers but because his family adopted Keith though he left Keith behind to pursue his career and left in a messy fight.
There is no aliens in this universe but there's still a kind of magic.
There are soulmate connections here.
They appear as glowing color when skin touches skin, though it's not just romantic there's also platonic/familial connections
So if Lance were to touch hunk the color will come out blue, if he were to touch a stranger nothing would happen. If he were to touch Keith it would turn purple.
Mixing colors is romantic, your color is platonic
Your color will pop up on your friend if you touch your own arm while thinking of them, but if you aren't thinking of anyone your automatically going to talk to your soulmate.
It doesn't last forever just as long as your in contact.
Also you can break the connection, however it's very painful and leaves actual scars
But if you were to truly reject your soulmate and you were to agree with it then you start to cry
But these aren't normal tears, they look like stars falling down your cheeks. And it burns like acid.
You can't melt your face off but you will be branded with a black mark where your tears fell the most
So the one who 'switch places' is Lance.
TW: major character death and mentions of sui
You can take this out if it makes you uncomfortable but the thing is the reason why they switched is because they both died at the same time.
There is another variable but I'll only tell the writer what it is!
Of course they were rescued in time to live but they did die in the medical sense for a few minutes.
Voltrons Lance, VLance, was killed by Shiro (or was he?) And woke up in a hospital bed on earth.
The Lance of this dimension was rescued after an attempt.
And everyone is shocked when he's awake.
Not because he survived, but he's nothing like their Lance. So happy and goofy and talks to everyone like they're friends.
Which is weird because they hate each other.
Even Hunk is considered barely an acquaintance.
So Lance who considers these people his family plans to fix that, while trying to find a way to get back home.
The thing is, is there really a home to go back to, or is this all in his head?
You have full range to change what you please but there's just a few things I ask to keep.
One is to keep the soulmates stuff, doesn't have to be the same thing just soul mates
The future pairings are Klance, Shiro matt, shay hunk are already a couple.
I had someone with pidge but it was just an oc that is only ever mentioned in the background (an android in the Voltron universe) so that can be scrapped if thou pleases
Lotor is there to cause a wedge between Lance and Keith. Like Lance Lotor is also bi. The two of them actually like each other, and bond over their shared interest in Allura.
It's not a ruse Lotor legit just likes Lance.
And last but definitely not least
The title, if you don't mind, can it be Astronutcase?
Love y'all!
#klance#fanfic#take my ideas#tw sui implied#soulmates#cw sui implied#tw sui attempt#tw major character death#cw major character death#Astronutcase#i want to read it#if you prefer to draw it thats okay too#if you are reading this#and you might never read it#you know who you are#but if you are reading this lets talk about it#because I will never bring what happened up on my own i prefer it stay in the grave#but if you are reading this i would like you to know everything#we need to talk
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Alright, so, in 2016, TERFs were actively inserting their rhetoric into fandom spaces to convince a new generation of teenage girls to agree with them despite the fact that everyone on tumblr understood "TERFs are bad" even if they didn't understand what all TERFs believe or why it's bad. One of the talking points that got really big was the idea that DDLG and related kinks normalized and enabled incest a pedophilia. 2016 was also the year after Hannibal finished, the year after The Force Awakens came out, the year Voltron: Legendary Defender started, and the year Donald Trump was elected.
(more under the cut)
A bunch of would-be progressive kids felt powerless and wanted some way to take control and make a positive change in the world. A lot of these kids also hated Reylo and Hannigram because they're problematic ships that gross them out. They took the TERF talking points and ran with them, saying that shipping those two ships "normalizes abuse". This only got worse when VLD came out and the two biggest ships were Klance and Sheith. Klance had a bunch of people just here for some skinny pretty boys, and Sheith had a bunch of textual support and actual moments between the two characters, so the Klance shippers got pissed. They decided to push the line that, because Shiro is older than the rest of the cast and Keith said "you're like a brother to me" that Sheith normalized incest and pedophilia. Worse, tehy pushed the line that anyone who shipped Sheith was actively supporting incest and pedophilia and therefore was a fair target for harassment and abuse.
They called themselves "Antishaladins" and went after anyone in the Voltron fandom who shipped Shiro with one of the other paladings (except Allura, because she's a black teenage girl and so they saw her as a sexually available adult and therefore perfectly fine to ship with a canonically gay man). When antishaladins teamed up with anti-reylos and anti-hannigrams and began to apply their worldview to fandom in general, they called themselves "Antishippers" and "Antis" for short. As people got sick of this harassment, they started speaking out against it, tagging their posts with "anti anti" and then "proship". The fact that none of the ships antishippers went after are actually incestuous or pedophilic is relevant, but it wouldn't have justified their behavior if they were.
I get why you'd be skeptical of someone saying "My side just believes harassing people is bad" but that is seriously the party line here. If you ask an antishipper if they think it's okay to harass people who "like incest and pedo ships" they will say yes. If you tell an antishipper that it's not okay to harass people over ships, they will call you a proshipper for it. In practice, both antishippers and proshippers believe that being a proshipper is about being against harassment over ships.
Now, if you're asking why people would ship things that they would not condone IRL, there are several reasons. The most important thing is that it is normal and healthy to feel differently about fictional scenarios than you would about that scenario happening IRL. It's normal and healthy to enjoy watching Iron Man but also to feel shocked and appalled when a real person goes on a vigilante killing spree. It's normal to think it's cute and romantic when Jessica and Roger Rabbit kiss but to be disgusted and upset when someone sexually assaults a real rabbit. It's healthy to think it's okay for Mamoru to date Usagi but to think an actual college student dating an actual middle schooler is a predator.
Given the fact that fictional children resemble actual children and fictional siblings resemble actual siblings to about the same degree as Bugs Bunny resembles an actual rabbit, it is not surprising that people will ship a pair of characters who have an age gap or who are siblings if they would ship those same characters if that weren't the case. The characters are shippable and there's no reason that should stop them, even if it would make the relationship immoral if it were happening IRL.
There is also a distinct appeal to ships that comes from their problematic aspects. Forbidden love is a very potent romantic trope, it allows for a lot of tension and a lot of strong emotion in the form of guilt, fear, angst, and a love so strong it override's a person's moral compunctions. To love someone so much that you want to be with them, even though you know it's wrong, even though you know it could destroy you both, is a powerful narrative. It is often more powerful when the reason the pair cannot be together is something you, the reader, agree with. If they can't be together because their parents hate each other, or because they live in a homophobic society, a reader may roll their eyes when the characters treat those reasons as legitimate and not just barriers. But if that's your sister, if that's your student, if that's a child, then there is no eye-rolling.
(Interestingly, this can make it a useful metaphor for those lesser taboos like homophobia or family feuds. If you're a gay girl dealing with some amount of internalized homophobia even though your brain knows homophobia is stupid, it can be useful to sublimate your internalized feelings into a relationship you would consider actually morally wrong in order to explore and process those feelings.)
Also, breaking taboos is hot. So yes, that's a factor in the smut.
ok im doing a bit of a study
proshippers, what is that, what is a proshipper
are you guys writing incestuous/pedophilic scenarios for the sake of disgust, sexual gratification, shared catharsis, like whats the goal
and dont give me that "we just dobt harass people!!!" shit because both you guys and antis explain yourselves in the most "normal" sounding ways to sound good its what every human being does they WANT that moral superiority, i get it
if someone can explain what a proshipper is to me properly id be grateful
no judgement unironically from either side ty ty
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I saw a post in the Zuko tags arguing that Zutara is more problematic than Z*kka because Katara hates everyone in the Fire Nation while Sokka doesn't. And I'm like... did you completely switch their characters?? Katara is the one who still saw the humanity of the Fire Nation. She offered to heal Iroh and Zuko even though they was her enemies. She saved a Fire Nation village. But apparently Katara "hates" the Fire nation more than Sokka. Their lack of awareness literally astounds me.
so did they just sleep through sokka stating that absolutely everyone and everything in the fire nation was an enemy and not to be trusted, including the birds? or did i hallucinate him yelling THESE ARE ENEMY BIRDS in agitation?
i don’t know why this surprises me, though, since i’ve noticed a lot in those circles that a good chunk of that particular fanbase goes out of their way to give sokka all of katara’s defining characteristics--in particular, her compassion--to make their ship work. or, rather, because they desperately want a ship that has exactly what zutara does--the thematic parallels, the symbolism, the narrative journeys, the enemies-to-friends-to-lovers where zuko actually has to work to earn forgiveness and their bond becoming cemented by that, the sheer soulmatism inherent in their journey so closely paralleling the age-old romance told with Oma and Shu--but because they either hate katara or ‘straight’ ships so much (or both), they can’t actually stomach the thought of zuko and katara together. so they just try to take all of that and....shove it into zuko’s relationship with sokka.
which, yknow, i can almost get? red&blue gays is a fine trope, and i know a lot of them came from the vld fandom and were desperate for the sort of depth and also respect that they never got from shipping klance, but like, it’s the disrespect to katara that i just can’t tolerate. it’s the insistence that sokka is all the things that katara actually was in canon--compassionate, willing to help ‘the enemy’ even when it was dangerous because it was the right thing to do and people needed her help, the understanding--and the refusal to believe that zuko could ever fall in love with katara, based on the fact that they.......gave katara’s foundational character traits to sokka, and built their conception of zukka’s relationship off of that.
(and then justified it bc of course zuko is gay and would never be attracted to icky girls anyway, because that doesn’t have any unfortunate implications at all. insert eye rolling here.)
anyway, at the end of the day i really just have to laugh. bc like i keep seeing it when headcanons and aus and things pop up and they’re familiar except this time they’re tagged ‘zukka’ instead of ‘zutara’ and i’ve even seen people saying ‘i saw this as a zutara post but i made it better cause now it’s gay’ and im just. i guess at least they recognize, on some fundamental level, that zutara is the god tier ship of the show, and the best way to build up zukka is to take what canon gave us and pretend it was theirs to begin with, which i guess is sort of validating? but it’s still annoying as hell, because then posts like the one you mentioned come up and it’s like ‘did yall even watch the show or what???’
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