#just another jew for a free Palestine

[stardustasincocaine]

[news4dzhozhar]

[evilkitten3]

some of you guys will proudly reblog posts like "criticism of israel is not inherently antisemitic" and then immediately follow that up with the most antisemitic post you can find

yeah criticizing israel isn't inherently antisemitic but a lot of you sure fucking seem to wish it was

[schwarzwelter]

possibly a hot take but if you as a Jewish person tie your ENTIRE identity to NEEDING an ethnostate, you need to reevaluate your relationship with your religion/ethnicity.

i know many Jewish people who i am good friends with who do NOT feel the need to tie their religion or identity to a colonial ethnostate, and support the freedom of palestinians.

this is not about your religion or your identity, this is about fascism and genocide masking itself with the suffering of the Jewish people.

Fascists are using you and your religion as a scapegoat to justify genocide.

[thehallstara]

i just like. wish ppl would realize how bad things are for most diaspora jews atm and like. take that into account wrt how they talk abt stuff

[glassrunner]

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[cooloilcloth]

Hey. With all due respect, i'm looking through some of your posts, and it is making me very angry to see you, in one post, claim that "you don't know anything about what is happening in the west bank" but you continue to post in support of the IOF, who are both neo-nazis, genocidists, and truly evil people. My point is, from your posts, I can tell how you truly do believe that yiu are supporting the right side, and doing the right thing, but you aren't. I want you to listen to Palestinian people talk about the shit that is happening to them, all done by the IOF, not Hamas as you purport.

I want you to become more educated, and even if you aren't completely in favor of palestine after researching, hopefully you can gain a less biased perspective.

With love and compassion,

-Anon

Hi anon,

I'm personally friends with a few members of the IDF. They're not neo-nazis or genocidists, they're middle eastern jews who oppose things like that on every level. They're not white colonisers, they're people of colour with Jewish blood thousands of years old.

There's no such thing as the IOF. It's the Israeli Defense Force, and it's the first and only army of the Jewish people. When the world turns against us, and they always do, the IDF defends. It doesn't start wars, it ends them. Just like it's going to end this war and end Hamas; and in doing so, free Palestine.

I am Jewish. I am a Jew. I don't support Israel, I am Israel, and Israel is me. It's our country, our state, and our self determination.

Try to come into my own home and tell me my parents are neo-nazis. Try to come into my school and tell me my teachers are genocidal. Try to come into my synagogue and tell me my rabbi is a truly evil person.

Nah.

Every claim you make is another racist conspiracy theory as old as time, and you fell for it. I'm sorry you fell for it. It happens to a lot of people. Try to unlearn it or go protest at a university and get arrested; either way, be silent now. We're all tired of hearing your blood libels and scapegoating.

With love and compassion,

Olly

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The "Free Palestine" movement is genocidal. Straight up. It's not just a few select slogans they use or some fringe members.

The very name of the movement is genocidal.

I had a conversation with my former roommates last semester where they refused to understand why "Free Palestine" in and of itself as a statement is a problem.

To them, it's a liberation movement. But the first issue arises when we ask who or what is being liberated.

What, in modern geographical terms, is Palestine? Where is Palestine? Who is the ruling party of Palestine?

Anyone with even a bit of knowledge would realize that this is a trick question. There isn't any country actually called Palestine.

When people refer to Palestinians, they typically talk about the people either in Gaza or the West Bank, which are two separate entities with two separate governments.

So who are we supposed to be freeing? Gaza, which has its own government in the form of Hamas? Or the West Bank, which has the PA as its governing group? (By the way, the PA has this little thing called pay-for-slay I suggest you look into, but that'd be a post for another time.)

The actual term "Palestine" most commonly is used to refer to the entire area of where Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank are located.

Which brings me to my main point. When people call to "Free Palestine" they aren't calling for a two-state solution. Identically to their call for "from the river to the sea", this slogan calls for the complete destruction of Israel.

A lot of people have already spoken on the issue of why "from the river to the sea" is genocidal in nature, so I won't be going too in depth on that. My point is more so that those two phrases are equivalently malevolent in nature.

There's also the people who call themselves "pro-Palestine". If we take into consideration what "Palestine" as a term means, we're left with two interpretations.

First, they just use that instead of "Free Palestine", making their use of it still equivalent for wanting the entirety of Israel gone.

Second, they want Palestine to "win" in the war.

Now, since we've established that there isn't actually a country called Palestine right now, they're either rooting for the PA or Hamas to win.

As I recommended before, it'd be fantastic if you could just take time to read up on what pay-for-slay is. As a quick summary, that's exactly what it sounds like. The PA pays people money for killing Israelis/Jews. (That's the very vague version, since this isn't the point of the post.)

Therefore, you can probably imagine what would happen to Israelis if the PA were to take over Israel (G-d forbid).

If, G-d forbid, Hamas were to take over Israel, we'd end up with a series of atrocities akin to the horrors of Oct 7th. How do I know? Hamas leaders have repeatedly promised to repeat Oct 7th again and again and again.

Both the PA and Hamas have killed their own people for suspected collaboration with Israel, in rather cruel ways. So you can probably imagine what'd happen to Israelis in both scenarios.

I have seen very very few people who align themselves with either phrasing of the movement actually calling for two states, or for any viable solution. (And no, a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power is not a viable solution. We had a ceasefire until the moment they attacked on Oct 7th.)

(I say "very few" as an allowance that some may exist, but in reality I haven't seen any.)

If your solution involves the dissolution of Israel and giving power to either the PA or Hamas, congratulations. You are actively backing a genocidal "solution".

And much like a previous "solution", most of the victims of this proposed genocide would be Jewish.

[notaplaceofhonour]

There is a version of “Free Palestine” that is simply a call for Palestinian Independence—no more expansionist settlements, an end to sanctions & blockades, a renegotiation of borders between Israel & Palestine, international recognition of Palestine, water rights, unfettered access to energy & other utilities, freedom of movement, etc.—and I think this is what a lot of Anti-Zionists have in mind when they say it.

There is another version which imposes on Israel-Palestine a framework that characterizes any and all Jewish presence “from the river to the sea” as an occupation, and the entire region’s population of Jews as “settler-colonizers”. I think this is a very dangerous way of characterizing Jewish existence in the Levant, because if any and all Jews in the region are inherently “Zionist colonizers”, then any “decolonization” will de facto just be dejudification—the removal or death of Jewish people and Jewish culture. This would be, at best, an ethnic cleansing—at worst, a genocide.

“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” is a slogan that really seems to presuppose the latter framework and makes little sense outside of it; thus, it’s hard to hear as anything other than a call to either ethnically cleanse or genocide Israeli Jews.

This is why many Jews are scared right now—even ones who are not Pro-Israel and who’ve been highly critical of Zionism for a very long time (hi that’s me). Because we are seeing our neighbors sign onto the goal of dejudification, and repeating slogans that call for the ethnic cleansing & genocide of our people.

And many Anti-Zionists will be quick to push back against this by saying “Well, no, we don’t hate all Jews, just Zionists”. The problem with that is that many of y’all are labeling all Israelis “Zionists”, any Jews outside of Israel who mourn their deaths “Zionists”, any Jews who point out antisemitism or make any criticism of anyone but Israel “Zionists”, any Jews who acknowledge that Jews are indigenous to the Levant or that pogroms were a huge motivating factor in Zionism “Zionists”; there are almost definitely going to be people reblogging or commenting on this post to call me a Zionist. Even if you just pare that down to only Israeli Jews, that’s about half of all Jews on the face of the planet you believe deserve to be ethnically cleansed.

“I don’t hate all Jews, just most of them” and “I hate 7 million+ Jews, but not for being Jewish, just for being part of a distinctly Jewish ideology” is not the progressive take you think it is. It is, in fact, just antisemitism.

[edenfenixblogs]

Shut up you genocide supporter

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So, just to be clear, I made a post specifically explaining that I hear this phrase as a call for my death personally. I hear this phrase as a call for the death of all Jews to be murdered and denied burial and to be shoved into the sea and provided examples as of why. And I received this in my inbox less than a minute later.

I also explained explicitly that I believe Palestinian people have a right to use this phrase and reclaim it from terrorists who took it from them. I explained that my ultimate goal is peace for Palestinians and for Jews. I explained that I wish for Palestinians to live as full and equal citizens in their homeland. I explained that anything that does not contribute to this goal of peace is causing active harm to Jews as well as deepening the conflict going on right now.

Given that information, you chose to send me this.

So you want me to die? You want to kill me, a Jewish person who does not live in and has never been to Israel? You want to kill all Jews?

Hmmm…it sounds like only one of us actually supports genocide, and it sure isn’t me.

Next time you want to tell me that you want me dead and want to kill all Jewish people, you can just say that. There’s no need to pretend you’re helping Palestinians at the same time.

PS: to all the goyim who replied to my recent posts that they support Jews and abhor antisemitism—now would be a good time to show support.

Jews cannot continue to receive this kind of targeted harassment in the name of people who claim to support peace. Standing up to antisemitism means loudly and clearly denouncing this. And if you don’t do so, I’m just gonna assume you stand with @pata-hikari, who wants me dead.

I have made it abundantly clear that I don’t support the violent response to the 10/7 attacks. I have made it abundantly clear I want freedom and equality for Palestinians. It’s time for y’all to make it abundantly clear that you understand that this message was a death threat. That people are using a phrase coined to promote hope and peace and liberation to threaten (another) mass Jewish slaughter. Do you care about me or not? Stop fence sitting or choosing sides. Fight for peace or stop pretending to be my friend and ally. An ally doesn’t stand idly by while someone they claim to support gets death threats.

Again, I don’t want ANY violence. I don’t want anyone to attack this person. What I want is to stop having to deal with this shit every day. What I want is for people to be as loud in their opposition to antisemitism as they are for Palestinian self determination. What I want is to stop having to be regarded as a good guy or a bad guy. I just want to be a fucking person and I want PEACE ONLY.

[tungledotedu]

[image ID: a tumblr post by afurioushawk, dated 14 hours ago. it reads: 'Saying "Never visit Hawaii at all, even if you're otherwise respectful of the Native culture!" sounds as insane to a normie as "Never visit New Mexico, never give the Navajo Nation your tourist money!" Yeah, why only Hawaii? Are the Native Hawaiians more ~exotic~ than mainland or Alaskan Natives in these idiots' eyes, is that it?' the hashtag 'segregation but make it left wing' is underneath the post. end ID.]

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'segregation is when indigenous people try to exercise sovereignty over their own homes and want tourists to stop visiting sites of cultural and ecological importance. i'm showing them respect by throwing a temper tantrum at the prospect of not being allowed to do whatever i want on someone else's land!!!'

i wonder if this person has normal opinions about other indigenous issues like palestine...

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[image ID: a tumblr post by mascula-sappho, reblogged by afurioushawk from short-wooloo. it reads: 'a free multiethnic Palestine requires you to stop murdering Jews and taking them hostage.'

mascula-sappho's addition reads:

'In case the Hamasniks reblog this post and continue to spout Nazi rhetoric and blood libel: I said this in the context of how stupid it is to believe that there WILL be a multiethnic Palestine, unless a drastic change of heart happens. Because "free Palestine" effectively means "free us from living beside Jews" and Jews happen to be an ethnicity from that region. Currently most governments in the Middle East are hellbent on religious authoritarianism and also murdering Jews. You should see the interviews with proud Palestinian parents talking about how because their son died murdering Jews (which Hamas has publicly said is their goal) and how he will go to the the highest heaven. The third line in the motto of the Houthis is "death to Jews". Now would also be a convenient time to remind you that Jews are not the only ethnic group being oppressed and colonized in the Middle East: please look to Druze, Kurds, how Persian culture was arabicized and Islamified even more, and others that I don't know about yet. Also, if Arabs are oppressed brown indigenous people, why does half of Africa speak Arabic??? That's not normal for African countries, there are like 294829+ languages per country and HALF OF THEM SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE?? this is what actual colonization looks like. Please I'm begging you, pick up a history book and come back.'

afurioushawk's hashtags read: '#they just want another arab ethnostate#a recognized palestinian state must allow for the safe passage of ethnic minorities#but nobody chanting free palestine cares about anyone from mena who isn't arab#arab supremacy/white supremacy name a more iconic duo'. end ID.]

'arabs are the real colonisers and palestinians just want to murder every jewish person! this is a real fear and not one white people fabricated to justify imposing apartheid and committing a genocide against them!'

[mossadspypigeon]

I do not understand how you could possibly be so offended by someone pointing out the simpliest of truths. That Palestinians are human beings, and that share the planet with every one of us. Tell me who suffers when faced with this reality? Tell me how it is anti semetic to care about Palestinians who are suffering?

how was my answer in any way offended? and why can’t you answer my question?

why do you assume jews who dont support hamas and talk about arab colonization hate palestinians and other arabs? i have said numerous times that i do not hate all arabs.

you say it isnt “antisemetic” (antiSEMITIC) to care about palestinians…so why is it anti palestinian to care about jews and israelis?

have you studied palestinian nationalist ideology and why it was created? if palestinians left jews and israel alone, i would love to share the planet with them. however, the majority of palestinians (NOT ALL PALESTINIANS) have shown time and again they cant leave us alone or let us live. their nationalist ideology argues for eradication of jews. their leaders, both political and religious, in gaza and the wb brainwash the population with antisemitic rhetoric.

let’s look at some examples:

even many palestinians outside of gaza, the wb, and east jerusalem share these sentiments:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE80L0KX/

we can go all the way back to Amin Al Husseini, one of the grandfathers of the palestinian national cause and the grand mufti of jerusalem who was an ally of hitler (tbh we should go back to arabs conquering the levant but whatever). "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs" or “فلسطين بلادنا واليهود كلابنا” was a slogan like hamas’ “khaybar khaybar ya yahood” (a reminder of khaybar, when muhammad led a massacre of jews in saudi arabia) created by husseini’s fans. it was chanted at a demonstration led by him that turned into the nebi musa riots, a pogrom against jews. the slogan was used during the intifadas all the way to today.

another? the original “from the river to the sea”: “from water to water, palestine will be arab.”

want some palestinian nursery rhymes?

“Palestine is our country

The Jews our dogs

Put one branch on top of another

May Allah break the Jews,

Put one bag on top of another bag

May Allah release the prisoners

PLO yes, Israel no

Palestine yes!”

“Revolt, revolt and let the revolution be Islamic

Revolt, revolt and live free for eternity.”

“The rhymes taught to children in the religious schools claim that all of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf. Accordingly, all of Palestine, and not just the West Bank and Gaza Strip, should be liberated from the Jews and declared an Islamic state”

by pro palestine authors btw

this is all a drop in the well that is palestinian national judeophobia/jew hate. and i say well purposely bc abbas claimed jews poison palestinian wells a few years ago.

once palestinians stop teaching their children blatant lies, colonization, and jew hatred, then we will have peace. until then, they will continue to want jews dead. no other group facing this would be asked what you asked me btw.

maybe read and listen to actual palestinian sources. watch al aqsa tv. watch PIJ videos and fatah videos. read about the crimes palestinians committed against my people like blowing up children on school buses, stabbing parents in front of their babies, raping and decapitating young women, burning families alive. watch the videos of the oct 7 celebrations and how civilians treated the bodies of jews and other israelis. how civilians participated in oct 7 and how they even shot our dogs. read about the lynchings of jews in the west bank. and then ask me to love those people.

do i hate every palestinian? no. there are some who support peace and blatantly hate their leadership. do i love the palestinian nationalist narrative though? no and i don’t have to. it’s a narrative based on arab supremacy and nazi rhetoric. its goal is to eradicate jews and to coopt our history so they can claim indigeneity.

so when palestinians who support this narrative start a war intending to murder all jews and israelis and then whine about losing the war? a war their leadership started fully intending to make their own people suffer? tough fucking titties dude. don’t try to eradicate the jews. leave us the fuck alone already.

[matan4il]

I’m muslim but I’m upset with the free Palestine movement especially as a woman. they are only making it worse for Muslim women subject to governments which are misusing the teachings of the Quran. they do not care even about Uyghur or Rohingya Muslims

I'm a day late, but I hope it's still okay to wish you Jumaat Mubaraka, lovely Nonnie! *hugs*

I feel you. A few years ago, I took a course and ended up becoming friends with the lady who happened to choose the seat next to me. She's a Muslim Israeli Arab woman. She had the audacity of divorcing her husband. She has a son who came out as gay, and she had the audacity to accept him as he is. Under Hamas or the Palestinian Authority's rule, she could be severely punished socially for either. Worse, her son would likely be terrified for his life, and might have ended up like one of my gay Palestinian friends, who have been forced into heterosexual marriages because the threat to their lives was so great. Instead, her son lives in Tel Aviv, is openly gay, and is an advocate for both the State of Israel and gay Israeli Arabs and Palestinians. She's an advocate for the State of Israel and Israeli Arab Muslim women. She gets to speak and be heard because she's an Israeli citizen. And it's not by chance that she is one. Her family made a choice in 1948, to stand by the Jews, rather than join the Arab attack on them. She once opened the Quran, showed me a specific surah, and told me, "This is why I know that as a Muslim, I must love the Jews, and stand by their state."

She has her own agency in choosing her position on the State of Israel, she has her well being, her son's, and that of many other Israeli Muslim Arab women and gay people to consider, and the anti-Israel crowd doesn't care about any of that. She's just an obstacle standing in the way of the narrative they've chosen, she shows reality is more complex than the black and white framing they embraced, which allows them to openly hate Jews while inflating their own egos, as if they're being righteous.

Not to mention coming up with ridiculous stuff like, "Palestinian men beat their wives because of the Israeli occupation!" This is honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, only topped by "Israel is using cow/dolphin spies." But think of the practical implication. It means as long as Israel exists, no one's gonna hold Palestinian men accountable for the violence they're committing against their own wives. It's a betrayal of Palestinian women, all supposedly in the name of helping Palestinian nationalism.

(on top of the criticism voiced by UN Watch, it's insane how one of the speakers blaming domestic violence against Palestinian women on Israel is the UN representative of "Etat de Palestine," state of Palestine... What an easy way to avoid a state's duty to protect the women living under its rule from any and all violence, including domestic! If you're an independent state, and deserve recognition from the world, then you also have the responsibility to tackle domestic violence. If you're not independent, then why are you demanding to be recognized as such?)

And yes, the lack of care for actual Israeli Arabs and Palestinians is what I often talk about, but you're right that the damage caused by the anti-Israel crowd is bigger than just to Jews, Israeli Arabs, and Palestinians. Holding up an Islamist cause, backing up the Islamist movement and showing them how the west can be easily won, this will only serve to harm more people. Including Muslims who are more vulnerable to human rights abuses, like women and gay people.

In the vid above, as another example, the UN Watch speaker asks the UN to compare the data on domestic violence suffered by Palestinian women, to that suffered by Jordanian, Lebanese, Egyptian women and so on... Maybe if they couldn't use Israel as their punching bag, they'd have to look at domestic violence against women in the whole region, and actually do something about it. But nah, it's easier to write off Israel as the guilty party when it comes to Palestinian domestic violence, and pretend like that's the only place in the entire Middle East where this violence stands out as an issue. And that's before we talk about observing the levels of anti-women violence in non-Arab Muslim countries, such as Iran, where the government itself has imprisoned and even killed women for not wearing a hijab correctly. This is a betrayal of Muslim women at large.

And in addition to all that, like you said, this crowd also doesn't give a shit about the Muslims being persecuted in any conflict that doesn't allow the blame to be laid on the 'evil Jews.' Even when the numbers targeted are much greater, and the scope of abuse far more severe.

Thank you for the ask, and I hope you're okay! I hope the world cares more about Muslim women, rather than posturing as if it does, but only when it can be used against Jews. xoxox

(for all of my updates and ask replies regarding Israel, click here)

[beardedmrbean]

Far-left, pro-Palestine Councilmember Shahana Hanif is suddenly bending over backwards to show support for the Chosen People — now that she’s in a tight challenge against a Jewish primary opponent.

Until just four months ago, Hanif, 33, who reps the 39th district — which includes parts of Brownstone Brooklyn, including liberal bastion Park Slope, but also heavily Orthodox Jewish Borough Park — has almost never bashed Hamas or spoken up for Israel.

But when the Israeli restaurant Miriam was vandalized last week in Park Slope, the councilwoman fired off a statement to condemn the vandalism

“This hateful act threatens the safety of our community,” she wrote on X.

On the first anniversary of the Oct. 7 massacre, Hanif released a statement of support calling out the terrorist bloodbath — something she rarely does.

Hanif was singing a far different tune before a primary threat emerged in August from Maya Kornberg, a Jewish Democrat who works at NYU’s Brennan Center for Justice.

In April 2023, Hanif was one of just two council members to vote against an ‘End Jew Hatred Day’ resolution — calling it a “far right” idea.

In the days after Hamas’ attack Hanif insisted in a since-deleted post on X “the root cause of this war is the illegal, immoral, and unjust occupation of the Palestinian people,” and that “no peace” should be expected.

At a “Cease Fire Now Rally for Gaza” in Bryant Park  where Hanif was arrested, hundreds of protestors shouted the anti-Israel chant, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”

Another since-deleted X post from Hanif demanded a “ceasefire” just five days after the slaughter in an effort to shut down any military response from Israel.

So far, Hanif, elected in 2022, has raised about $68,000 for the June 24 primary contest, while Kornberg is nipping at her heels with almost $63,000 in the bank, according to campaign finance data.

Rabbi Andy Bachman, a former senior rabbi at Congregation Beth Elohim in Brooklyn, said Hanif called him to offer support in August after a bookstore in her district canceled a talk from him because he was a “Zionist” — but described her recent outreach “too little and too late.”

“My perspective is as a lifelong proud Democrat, any politician who is unwilling to . . . condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization is simply not fit to lead,” he said.

In a statement Team Hanif said she would “always work to keep all New Yorkers safe by addressing the root causes of violence” and insisted that she had “repeatedly and categorically condemned Hamas.”

They refused to send any past example of her doing so.

[jewish-vents]

one of my boyfriend's friends who already weirded me out walked into the cafe on campus with FREE PALESTINE and Palestine's flag scrawled on their face and said 'yeah ive got a whole look going on.'

i dont know if this person is an antisemite or 'just antizionist' (very likely to be an antisemite but hiding behind a word that they dont actually understand). i dont know that if it came up that im planning to convert to Judaism, if theyd decide to try and argue with me Israel's actions, of which i have no useful amount of information on, and obviously no part in. If theyd just see me as another 'bloodthirsty, vermin Jew that wants to see Palestinian babies dead and raped' when thats not at all what i fucking want. i want the war to end but I have no way at all of ending it. Neither does he, by writing on his face and walking around campus on October 7 2024, the anniversary of Hamas attack on Israel one year ago. no one on campus from what ive seen has done this either

and i wasnt expecting fucking anything like that today of all days but i guess i should have because college students have a mindblowing level of ballsiness. i feel like i just got flashbanged or something by their audacity

i dont trust them not to be incredibly antisemitic and i wont be interacting with them from here on as much as possible, to preserve my mental health and safety, and possibly my boyfriend's. and im going to bring this up to my boyfriend, that i dont want to be around that person and that i dont want him talking to them about me anymore or vise versa

- Xo

People treating their support for Palestinians like they're rooting for a sports team just never sits right with me.

I do think you made the right choice Anon, stay safe

-🐺

[sethshead]

Annual reminder that Jesus was not Palestinian and that Palestine as legally defined region did not exist at that time, nor did the Palestinian nation. This is empirically documented fact. Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew in Roman Judea. If “Palestine” was used in some Greek texts to describe the region it was because of the Philistines (who aren’t Arab in origin) having lived here once. I’m now hearing people saying Christianity is Palestinian in origin. This is also sheer idiocy. Even if we allow for the fact that Jesus isn’t the progenitor of Christianity (again he died a Jew, his followers were all Jewish and they defined themselves as a sect of Judaism, not a new religion) and attribute the foundation to Paul and people of his generation, which I would say is true. Paul was born a Jew in Roman Judea and died 70 years before the region was renamed Palestine. Jesus and the founding of Christianity has everything to do with the Jews and zero to do with Palestine and Palestinians. And it goes without saying they have nothing to do with Arabs and Islam, except insofar as Islam tells it story with Jesus (and for that matter Judaism) being part of its origin story, which did not happen until the 600s. I will also point out that those western activists (historically clueless) who are making this claim are actually doing a great disservice to the Palestinian people. Why? Because they are inventing ancient Palestinian history that is easily refutable by fact, as I have just done. Given how easy it is to undermine such claims, when people who don’t know much about the region (but joined the river to the sea crowd because that’s what the cool kids do) learn the truth they will become skeptical about other claims made by Palestinians, some of which are true, some of which deserve acknowledgment. But the American left doesn’t care. They don’t actually care about the Palestinians. They are driven by Jew-hatred, and Zionism is the most convenient demon in their social justice arsenal. They will never help free Palestine. But what they will continue to do is endanger diaspora Jewry, which is their goal, or at least a means to their end. Such was also the case with the Arab regimes who opposed a Jewish state from the very beginning. They weren’t advocating for Palestinians, they were advocating for non Jewish state anywhere min the region. The left has constructed a binary opposition that undergirds their theology that pits the evil oppressive (((Zionists))) against the eternally oppressed Palestinians. Their construct is false, an eschatological theology and nothing else, with both “Zionists” and “Palestinians” being little more than constructs they have thrown together to advance their revolutionary (and profoundly anti-Western) agenda. But if they want to claim Palestinians as the progenitors of Christianity then, well, let me point out, that “Christianity” persecuted the Jews severely at least until the early modern era and in some parts of Europe far beyond that time, culminating in The Holocaust. So sure, you want to claim Jesus for Palestine, then you also acquire all the baggage that comes with him.

-- Jarrod Tanny

It’s all just another form of supersession.