#jo x meg

[haxo-wolfie]

oh my silly girls how they massacred you...

redraw of this!!

[reputayswift]

THE MARCH SISTERS as ORIGINAL ALBUMS OWNED BY TAYLOR SWIFT (inspired by x & x)

[daemonsdarksister]

Laurie studies her face, and we know that he sees her and loves her

Laurie catches her face with his hands, and kisses her

LITTLE WOMEN (2019)

Florence Pugh and Timothée Chalamet <3

[princesssarisa]

"Little Women" collectible plates, designed by Elaine Gignilliat

Meg

Jo

Beth

Amy

Marmee nursing Beth

Meg's wedding day

Amy and Laurie

@littlewomenpodcast, @thatscarletflycatcher, @joandfriedrich, @fandomsarefamily1966

[papenathys]

Meg, Jo, Beth and Amy being the original quartet of coquette / dark academia / cottagecore / light academia aesthetics will never not be funny to me. Like I know they would each have insane Tumblr game. Meanwhile, Laurie would be haunting the old money-Greek classics-Iliad yaoi tags and posting bait photography in thrifted sweaters, corduroy pants and black nail polish captioned "how I look with she/they pronouns in bio"

[whenthegoldrays]

So I’m not sure if it was Greta Gerwig herself or a movie reviewer but I once read a criticism of the men in Little Women, saying that the March women’s husbands are all varying degrees of useless or disrespectful. Saying that John belittles Meg and her housework and that Friedrich has no respect for Jo’s work. And I have to say… what??

Meg and John are a great example of a healthy couple. Yes, he laughs when her jelly doesn’t turn out, but is he belittling her? No! He just finds it amusing because it is, at least to an observer. And he gets miffed that the house isn’t in order, but in fairness, she did say he could bring a friend whenever and dinner would be ready. They go through rough patches, but they always talk it out and keep on pulling as a team.

And the big one that everyone is mad about, Friedrich criticizing Jo’s writing. I think these people didn’t read the book because Fritz never reads Jo’s sensational stories. He finds a story in a newspaper — specifically stated to not be one of hers — and broadly criticizes that kind of story. This isn’t directed at Jo, it’s directed at writers of these stories in general (again, Friedrich doesn’t know Jo is one of them). But Jo takes his words to heart because he’s spoken to her conscience, and then she makes the decision to burn them all up and quit writing that genre of story. She listens to him because she knows him to have a strong moral compass, which is a big part of why she likes him so much. He helps her grow and become a better person and writer without having to give her direct advice!! And that’s beautiful!! And I’m sick of people who wanted Jo to stay single taking their disappointment and turning it into “all the husbands in Little Women were bad husbands and the second half is a commentary on how terrible it is to be married.” No. Stop it. Read the book. Cut it out with the cynicism.

[distressedjellyfish]

Things I think about with frequency

Amy March

How we deserved to see Amy and Laurie's wedding, and them falling in love, and just more of them

How Amy March is hated by many because LMA based the characters off her own sisters, and Amy was obviously written with some bias (as were all the sisters), which shines through and makes us feel similarly about Amy that "Jo" felt about her younger sister.

That line where Amy says "I've been second to Jo my whole life" hits A LOT harder when you realize that Louisa's (Jo) middle name is May, and her younger sister, who she based Amy off, is named May, after LMA's middle name.

I think that people see Amy as this vapid little bitch because she always knew she wanted to be a wife, and she knew she wanted to be rich. But what people fail to consider is that a lot of the time the youngest is the one that sees all the flaws in their family’s lives and feels responsible for taking care of them, even if its not expressly stated. Jo was a wild card. She was free to do as she wanted and nothing could stop her and God love Marmee for never trying. Meg was docile and almost polar opposite of Jo, and as the eldest sister she felt the same burden but lessened because yes she had typical Eldest Sister Syndrome where she had the need to take care of the family, but she also was the first, and therefore had no pre-set markers and expectations that she needed to meet or surpass. She wanted to marry and all that, but it didn't super matter about finances to her. Beth was unable to do "better" than her sisters "mistakes" flat out. And its not through any fault of her own, its just the way it was.

Speaking from experience, its always been clear to me that as the youngest of 3, I would have to do better. My half brother got a girl pregnant on his gap year when he was 18, so I was never allowed to take one, even though it would have probably helped in the long run. My half sister has always been mean to my parents, and won't let my dad see his only biological grandkid, which rips my dad apart, so of course I feel the pressure to have a child to give my dad a bio grandkid to dote on like he does with his non-bio grandkids, even though he's never outwardly expressed to anyone ever that he feels any disconnect from my niece because they aren't related, or that he wants me to have kids for any reason other than he wants them.

Anyways, my point is that Amy felt that pressure from a young age, hence always saying this or that about marrying rich. Add onto that when Aunt March tells her she's her family’s only hope of not being in the lower class/lower middle class for the rest of their lives. And just because that's the only time we see it, but that doesn't mean that there weren't other similar conversations had. Do you really think Aunt March never made her snide comments about the family and their status in front of Amy?

Amy's entire character revolves around this point, she's focused on being a proper lady, being delicate and pretty, in hopes of one day being able to bag someone rich, for her family.

Obviously, she falls into infatuation with Laurie when she meets him at the ripe age of 12??? She idolizes Jo, and Laurie is basically just the boy version (with some exceptions). He's also rich, young, handsome, and charming, and adores the family for who they are, including all their flaws. He's exactly what Amy had been saying she would marry, with the added bonus of him loving Jo the way she is, the exact opposite of Amy, proving that there are rich lovely men out there who will love you even if you aren't perfect, even if you falter. He's proof she can have the life she knows she needs to have for her family, and also still enjoy it and not be stressed all the time about being perfect.

Of course Laurie loves Jo first, for very similar reasons that Amy is infatuated with him. At 15, his whole life has been spent at dinner parties with girls the exact opposite of Jo, all proper and lovely and so so similar to one another, being told he'll marry one of them, everyone expecting him to be polished and well spoken and everything that no 15 year old boy wants to be. So then in comes this whirlwind girl who is completely different, a breath of fresh air that never wants to marry and can't ballroom dance for shit and laughs too loud, and shows him that life can be the Something Different he so desperately craves.

And of course, he ends up with Amy. He was Jo's best friend, so for 6 years all he knew of her was the way she was presented through Jo's eyes. A bratty little girl, who was the same as the other vapid girls he knew, that wasn't worth a thought. And he never paid her any mind because he spent 6 years thinking Jo loved him back, so why would he think of other girls? Then, at 21, he is essentially dumped by the love of his life, and travels abroad to find who he is without her. He meets Amy again, the girl who was always happy to see him. Of course he's going to spend time with her, she's familiar enough to feel like home, but different enough from Jo that it doesn't hurt. And there's the added validation of her liking him, which sometimes you need after your heart has been ripped apart. Plus, she's the only one he really knows in Paris. So they spend time together, and in that time he learns that she's not at all the way he's seen her over the last 6 years. Where he always saw someone not very bright, with a dim personality, that didn't stand up for anything or really rock the boat unless seriously provoked, who would do anything for him, he now finds a strong, funny, kind, beautiful girl, who is very intelligent and has a deep understanding of how cruel the world is (maybe ((definitely)) moreso than her sister) and knows how to manipulate said world in such a way that she can come out close to on top, who cares about her family enough to put everything else aside in order to become the person they need her to be in order to support them, who would still do anything for him but will absolutely call him on his shit and put him in his place when necessary. And how could he not love that?

She's not all that much like Jo, sure, but she is so much more. And she deserves so much more than people calling her his second choice.

Also I think that its criminal that most people don't see that obviously Jo loved her family but she loved herself more. Her sense of duty was to herself, and finding the place that would make her happy. She was also kind of a brat? Things didn't go her way? Editor is a dick? Boy critisizes her writing? Tantrum.

Whereas Amy loved her family more than herself. She was willing to put aside her dreams in order to support her family, and growing up was very rarely bitter about it. She decided, on her own, that her family was her number one priority, and that regardless of the fact that she could be happier doing other things, she wanted to do what she could to provide for her family. She knew how the world treated women, and she learned how to take that, and general criticism, on the chin.

Personally, I think that Amy is a way better character, and I'll die on this hill

Amy March

[thestarlight3]

Little Women (1994)

[alfalfapie]

And before anyone says anything in the tags, I left John and Mary off cause 1) I didn't wanna put them and 2) Cas definitely vetoed that right out of the gate.

[lunasbookshelf4]

"Jo loved Laurie! they were meant to be!"

As much as I loved Laurie and Jo's dynamic, Jo never loved Laurie romantically, it's even clearer in the books. She did have an intense amount of love for him, but it was strictly platonical.

After Jo rejected Laurie and he was off abroad, she had a conversation with her mother where she stated that she didn't love him as she should but just wanted to be loved by him.

Jo only wanted to be loved by Laurie because of how lonely she felt, especially after the loss of Beth.

[haxo-wolfie]

my honest thoughts on burst angel after watching it:

i really enjoyed it! but i feel like alot of things weren't clear or explained like at all unfortunately

just because i say i enjoyed it doesnt make up for the fact that the anime is bad

though i do really enjoy all the characters, they were written very well. the plot was just really all over the place. episodes would start where i wouldnt know what the fuck was going on that really shouldnt happen!

jo and meg should've definitely been around 18-19 and sei should atleast be like mid-late 20's. the canon ages are stupid and i hate how much they sexualized meg as if they didnt make her a literal child. it wasnt as prevalent in the beginning but i feel like the mid episodes really started making her fanservicey.

i think the designs are fine, but i would tweak them to make them less like. revealing. ( minus sei. shes fine since shes an adult ) amy doesnt need the tummy window shes like fucking 9

the ending was super rushed and i wish it would explain things better, but i kinda like the idea that meg kinda takes up jo's work. i kinda imagine if there was ever another season or a sequel to burst angel, there would be signs of jo outside tokyo and meg makes it her mission to find her once again. ( im still cooking w/ this idea but i still think its rlly cool )

i feel like meg should have somewhat kept her clothes and just added jo's jacket onto it to kinda make her own identity bc i feel like her just getting jo's clothing is lazy character design

the worldbuilding is really good but poorly executed.. the fact that they're making mutant people and then using their brains to make powerful, intelligent, military war robots is insane and i really like it. but then again, the episodes felt rough with explaining it and i didnt really get what they were doing until like episode 12

most of the fights were really fucking cool, especially with the mechs. they honestly really impressed me

i really enjoyed those tender moments jo and meg have, it was really heartbreaking to see jo hit her unconscious so she wouldnt get hurt thought.

i wish they had meg be in more fights instead of her being a damsel in distress most of the time. like i understand shes not some hyperflexible fighter like jo, but i'd be nice to see her kick ass too

THEY NEED TO REANIMATE/REMAKE BURST ANGEL IN THE OVA'S STYLE LIKE IMMEDIATELY. The OVA did everything so right it was genuinely my favorite piece of burst angel media. ( minus the part where meg was being racist but that isnt real to me <3 )

adding onto the last point, i feel like there were points in the anime where they lost the budget and it made me laugh a bit.

i doubt they'd ever reanimate burst angel but if they do god please stop sexualizing them if you're going to keep your characters as minors its weird and gross

ok thats it for my little rant :3 im currently reading the manga and its really fun so far!! im enjoying it. i wish there were more than 17 chapters tho :( a shame

[littlewomenpodcast]

Little Women Inspirations: Friedrich Schiller (With Hejar Sinem) Part 2

Niina: Exactly, the proposal scene, it is often romanticized, you don't really see how uncomfortable Jo feels that in the book, the way he's treating her, that's a problem. His apology in the book makes a lot of sense, because Laurie himself realized that it wasn't a right thing to do.

Sinem: I also think it's important that Louisa May Alcott did have Laurie apologize, it is also an ideal way of showing that men can change and better, and that they have to acknowledge it. I think any other author would just gloss over it, but I think it is very important that Louisa May Alcott didn't gloss over it, and I think it's also important that Louisa May Alcott did have Jo uncomfortable with Laurie being so possessive of her, because I mean, who wouldn't feel uncomfortable when their friend would force them to do something they didn't want?

Niina: Yes, it's interesting, because in later chapter, I think it's Under the umbrella, Friedrich says that he thinks he knows Jo very well, and that's why he does not force himself to her. Then we have Laurie, who has known Jo since he was 15, and then he tries to force himself on Jo, and you would think that it would be the opposite.

Sinem: Yes, that is very much true, and I often have to say, I really love how Friedrich was introduced in New York, and I love how great his character was in this chapter, because when he comes to Orchard House to visit Jo, he at first doesn't want to go inside, because she's busy and all that stuff, but then he stays, because Jo looks at him in such a way, and because she just throws him into the house, he doesn't change for Jo, he doesn't pretend he is somebody else when he talks to Jo's parents, he is still himself, and I also love that in this chapter, he looks at Laurie a great deal, and he also looks at Jo a great deal, and the fact that Jo is like, she has to keep her eyes focused, because her eyes wonder towards him, her eyes work constantly, which is very funny.

Niina: There's something about him that speaks right to her soul, it reminds me of that part in New York, when he's speaking about religion, and then in that chapter, he really becomes Jo's hero, so there's something similar that happens here.

Sinem: Yes, like I said, I really love Friedrich as a character, and I also love the fact that Louisa May Alcott didn't just like gloss over the fact that Friedrich was visiting. It was a very important chapter, and it also let the audience know Friedrich even better, because he was there for Jo, but he wasn't only nice to Jo, he was nice to everybody around her, because that is who he is.

Niina: You are pretty well educated when it comes to Louisa May Alcott. Would you like to tell a little bit, how you got introduced to Little Women and her writings?

Sinem: It happened like this. I wanted to read something in English, and I was like, why not try some classic out. It was the first time I kind of discovered it, but there were a few bad reviews, so I wasn't sure, and I couldn't get a reading extract of it, so I thought to myself, let's wait a bit, but then when I got to the shop to look for some English book, there it was again, and it was like the whole version of it, several hundred pages, and I read a bit into it, and I was like, okay, this is the novel I really want to read, so I started reading and I fell in love with the writing, and then I read her other novels as well, and the one that also had a real big impact on me, besides Little Women was also ”Work”, because it is such an incredible novel. About Little women, the funny thing with it is, Meg is character similar to my aunt. Meg is really how I always imagined my own aunt to be, I have two of them, the older one especially, reminded me of her, and I have to say, I also love the fact that Louisa May Alcott included Henry David Thoreau to all of ther novels. I think that is where they start off. He is in every novel of hers, and then there are people who claim that she didn't love him, but the fact is like, okay, if she only included Henry David Thoreau kind of character, for example, into Little Women, then maybe we could say, okay, she didn't love him, but it is clear that she was very much in love with him, or had a crush on him, because that kind of character is in all of her novels, Mac. David, I wouldn't say Tom in An Old-Fashioned Girl is completely like him, but when he matured, he also kind of becomes that kind of archetype, and I think it is really important.

Niina: I think Adam in Moods is also based on Henry David Thoreau.

Sinem: Yeah, right, I really forgot him.

Niina: Then there's the German man in the Queen of Hearts, he's based on Henry David Thoreau, so the list goes on and on. At some point maybe in this podcast, I will go through all of these Henry David Thoreau archetypes. Yes, you are correct, he appears in literal disguises in pretty much every single Louisa May Alcott novel or short story.

Sinem: Yes, and also in I believe in Long Fatal Love Chase, I think that's what it's called. In that one, Henry David Thoreau kind of archetype character is, I think, Father Ignatius. I can't remember his name, but I think that was it, and he really reminded me of Friedrich, but I have to say, I still love Friedrich more, because I think to me, out of all the Henry David Thoreau archetypes, I think Friedrich is the one who speaks mostly to my heart, probably because he's German and because he can talk German.

I always found it nice when she speaks German words. His language has English phrases and German sentences, I'm like, I can understand everything he says, and it is so cute.

Niina: Yes, and it's adorable, because in Little Women he is still trying to study English, and he speaks the broken English, and then he throws these German words here and there. Then in Little Men, the narrator says that he has improved his English a lot, but he still uses some of his favorite German phrases, like Schatz and Mein Sohn.

Sinem: Yes, that is true, and I also have to say, I think it is also very important for him to actually use this kind of language. He has a very open vocabulary, I'd say, and I think it is also very important to note that he didn't come to New York for himself. The reason why he came there was to provide for his nephews, and I think it also shows his very caring nature. It kind of a parallel to Louisa May Alcott, when she wanted to provide for her own nephews, and I think that was the reason why she started writing Little Men, she knew she wanted to write another book to the series, but she was like, okay, I have to provide for my nephews, because their father just died, and then she wrote Little Men, and that is just so sweet, and it's also a wonderful parallel to how Friedrich came to New York to provide for his nephews, and when he looks for work, so he can provide a home for Jo.

Niina: That is true, I hadn't thought about that before. That is a parallel between Louisa May Alcott and Friedrich's character. Her brother-in-law, John Pratt, had died before she started to write Little Men.

Sinem: Whenever I read Little Men, I always cry at the passage where John Brooke dies.

[spencerreidswhore187]

Little Women (2019) Directed by Greta Gerwig ⋆⭒˚.⋆ "I have loved you ever since I've known you Jo" ⋆⭒˚.⋆

[joandfriedrich]

I love these games!

8. What do they love most about the other? Why?

9. What do they dislike most about the other? Why?

For all couples :)

Yay! I am so glad! Also, I am not sure if you are the same anon who also asked this or if someone else out there had the same thought as you, but this should hopefully take care of that.

8. What do they love most about the other? Why?

Meg x John: Meg loves how reliable John is, that she can go to him for anything, financial concerns, emotionally, or chores, he is someone that she can rely on no matter what. John loves how loyal Meg can be, whether it is with him, her family, or friends, she will never turn them away even if it isn't "socially acceptable".

Jo x Friedrich: I think they both love how much the other love kids, that is something that they first noticed about the other the first time. But I can imagine Jo also loves how great of a listener he is, because he not only remembers what she says, but also never judges. Friedrich loves how strong Jo is in her conviction, she moves to the beat of her own drum, regardless what anyone says.

Amy x Laurie: Amy loves how passionate Laurie is when he sets his mind to something and it makes her so happy to see how excited he can get with his projects. Laurie loves how Amy can give it as good as she can take it. Yes, she is ladylike and charitable, but she will never take anything laying down and do it the classiest way possible.

9. What do they dislike most about the other? Why?

Meg x John: Meg doesn't like how John sometimes doesn't think before doing something. Thinking of the "Jam Incident", John treated her struggle as if it wasn't anything to be upset over, even if it wasn't meant to be cruel, it came across as such. While she has gotten better, he doesn't like that Meg will not be mindful about spending money, not only because it's not good for budget, but also he worries that it means she feels that he isn't providing as he wishes.

Jo x Friedrich: Jo has a hard time with how messy Friedrich can be. She knows she isn't the neatest, but at least it is controlled chaos, but his chaos goes beyond his area. Of course Jo's temper can be something Friedrich can find challenging. While he is able to help Jo through her tempers, it is difficult for him to see her like this.

Amy x Laurie: What bothers Amy is how lazy Laurie can get, because it isn't just lazy, it's Deadly Sin Sloth level of laziness. If he isn't motivated to do something soon, Amy would have to give him a task in order to get him out of his funk. He can take issue with how Amy, whether she knows it or not, can be a bit critical of things or people. She isn't a bully by any means, but because she sets a high standard for herself, it can mean she views things in the same lens, which can come across to some as haughty or harsh.

[stuismybf]

10 things i hate about you masterlist

last updated: 3/28/23

patrick v.

- thoughts that control me

[ginnyluvstimmy]

sorry not sorry! :]

(pt. 1 on my account)