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characters who see themselves as more of a Force or an abstract concept acting in the world than as a person. characters who prioritize their role as a cog in some greater mechanism over their own personhood. characters who get their hands dirty, who run themselves ragged, who take on an unbearable weight, who hurt or neglect or give up or straight-up betray the people and things they once held close, because they believe in doing so they are fulfilling their Purpose, the thing they exist in this world to do (and no one else will do it, *can* do it, so it has to be them). characters who've determined that they are constructs bound to preprogrammed code, to a script already written for them by someone/something else, and have been operating under that mindset for so long that they don't know how to live on their own terms. characters who uphold the fate that is smothering them. can anyone hear me
#it's the combo of objectification of the self + self-sabotaging devotion to an Other#or maybe it's nothing and i'm just yapping when i should be getting ready for bed. you decide!#narrative nonsense#this is inspired by my newest blorbo (the angel hare one) but also#chara dreemurr#(specifically their mindset in the Bad Time route)#some parts of this are also... janus (in my headcanons). and guildenstern. (different parts to be clear)#bonus points if they did it all or mostly to themselves#shout-out to one of the main characters from my current wip novel who would say she's long moved past this phase#(she has not. not really.)
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Guess what media i'm getting dragged back into
#i've been binging sander sides videos#I would draw janus and remus but i got lazy after these 4#sander sides#logan sanders#virgil sanders#roman sanders#patton sanders#i just needed to get the demons out#It was kinda fun to try to make the same person look like 4 different people
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Have this piece, I'm stupid proud of it. Based on @greenninjagal-blog's AU <3
With the accompanying character reference for Janus because why not :)
Merry insanity everyone I'm gay
#best art ive done since forever. There Is A Background. like an ACTUAL BACKRGOUND#don't @ me about janus' gayass fuckin design. the prompt was ''inhumanly pretty‚ could kill you with a look‚ God Janus''#if anything i wasn't the only one simping at least#drawing#art#digital#sanders sides#janus sanders#virgil sanders#ts janus#ts virgil#anxceit#greenninjagal#ktsawtg#<- au tag.....#i wanted to wait to post it so more people would see it but ive decided no actually ill just self reblog it to death later
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My sasi animatics are usually just recaps of episodes but I had an idea that I aggroed on LOL so (ill explain the idea more vvv because im insane)
I don’t think that Logan would ever duck out as a result of the lack of acknowledgement he receives. I don’t think he would ever take HIMSELF out of the picture… but I don’t know… him taking the others out is an interesting idea. tehehehee..
I really liked the idea of Logan cutting all contact between Thomas and the others via restricting everyone to their rooms (even if I don’t really rhink something like this would canonically happen, still an interesting thought). And Virgil wants to help him, or stop him, or do anything about this, but seeing someone you are possibly the closest with being corrupted by someone you’ve distanced yourself from for so long kind of muddles what the right way to go about that would be.
So Thomas can feel himself falling into the steadfast work prioritization. And Remus, well Remus is no stranger to being hidden away from Thomas, so he wont let himself mourn the prematurely fleeting liberation. Roman, not used to being trapped in the confines of his own room, is quickly holed into an unbreakable maladaptive daydreaming state. Janus knows well and good what’s happening, it was inevitable, he just never expected such a direct approach from Logan. And Patton,, we know how Patton gets when stuck in his room too long :///
But with that all out of the way Logan and Thomas can finally start a new day and get working. yaayyy..!
#logan serving very just monika here hope u guys enjoy#thomas sanders#sanders sides#sanders sides fanart#sanders sides animatic#animatic#logan sanders#virgil sanders#character thomas#c!thomas#remus sanders#roman sanders#janus sanders#patton sanders#tss#tss fanart#i wont tag as ship because i already did for my LAST analogical angst post and that would just be cruel and unusual behavior LMFAOOO
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i've. i've been rewatching the sanders sides
#if i had the sides these is what they would be btw. in case that wasn't clear#definitely art#id in alt text#rare me drawing myself moment#ohhhhhh....... the sides drawings i got too embarrassed to post....... looks longingly off into the distance#<- who said that#this was a funny little warmup :)#as i'm writing this i don't currently understand what time is but i did just listen to janus and remus' playlists#so you can imagine the state of mind i'm in
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Roman: hey can I have a sip of that water?
Logan/Janus/Remus: it's not water
Roman: Vodka! I like your style-
Logan/Janus/Remus: it's vinegar.
Roman: ... what?-
Logan/Janus/Remus: it's vinegar. pussy.
#idk which one is more accurate#they would all just.... do that#sanders sides#thomas sanders#sasi#ts sides#fanders#sander sides incorrect quotes#incorrect sanders sides quotes#sanders sides incorrect quotes#incorrect sanders sides#incorrect quotes#remus sanders#tss remus#remus sanders sides#sanders sides remus#ts remus#sanders sides roman#roman sanders sides#ts roman#roman sanders#tss roman#logan sanders sides#sanders sides logan#ts logan#logan sanders#ts logan sanders#janus sanders sides#sasi janus#janus sanders
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It says a lot about the TSC fandom that the second we hear Cassie say "it would be a spoiler" we immediately think someone will die.
#for what's worth i dont think cc would kill TMI in TEC.#thats a MAJOR event and nothing That Big can happen in a series CC knows just a small part of us will read. same login than with SoBH#i do think it might be related to Janus or the princes of hell though#the wicked powers#cassandra clare#the eldest curses
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thought about the livvy & jace/janus parallels again 378 dead 2992 injured... like wdym they were killed by the exact same sword, with jace being stabbed in the back & livvy stabbed in the front. wdym they were raised on the shores of the exact same lake almost exactly five years apart. wdym they were both came back wrong. the way livvy and janus share the common goal of just wanting to get what they lost too, and they both spend their gotsm stories watching their loved ones with no way to properly interact with them despite how badly they want to.
it's arguably one of the things that terrifies me the most going into twp like literally what does it all mean... what does this mean for livvy...
#like it feels like it can't be accidental there's too many parallels#especially since the characters we see the most of in thule is livvy janus and ash#positive spin maybe this means livvy isn't totally doomed like Jace is fine now!! maybe she has two possible futures in front of her#and it could go either way!!#imagine me clutching red string rn because that's how I feel whenever I think about it#in another life livvy and jace would have loved talking about swords together 😔😔#would she think Clary proposing to him with an engraved sword is the coolest thing ever#just remembered livvy wanted to run an Institute when she was older... shes so Jace Herondale coded she never stood a chance#bella talks#tsc#the shadowhunter chronicles#the wicked powers#the last king of faerie#tlkof#twp#livvy blackthorn#jace herondale#janus herondale#the dark artifices#tda#ghosts of the shadow market#gotsm
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*Sighs dreamily* Sanders Sides swap AUs.. My beloveds..
#I love them so much you don't even realize#there's so many ways you can go with them#are Logan Patton and Roman still the “core sides” of Thomas's mind in season one?#is it Virgil and Janus and Remus?#Does Virgil join the Roman Logan and Patton or does one of them join Virgil Janus and Remus?#Are the relationship dynamics the same?#or are they different?#how much do the personalities change?#or is it just Thomas's views on certain sides swapping?#I love them so much#how much does Thomas's personality change?#I have one of my own that I would spurt on about forever should anyone ask about it#this is my very subtle way of asking you guys to ask about my swap au#remus sanders#roman sanders#logan sanders#patton sanders#virgil sanders#janus sanders#thomas sanders#sanders sides
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Janus: I am an excellent secret keeper. I’ve kept all the secretssss.
Logan: What secrets?
Janus: Oh, no way! Nope! I can’t tell you, I’m the holder of all the secrets!
Logan: *sighs* Fine. *walks away*
Remus: You’ll tell me later?
Janus: You already know—
#just between Remus and Janus and no one else#ok Remus has to tell Patton and NO ONE ELSE#ok Patton had to tell Roman or he would burst but NO ONE ELSE—#ok Roman had to—#Janus sanders#Remus sanders#logan sanders#thomas sanders#sanders sides#roman sanders#ts roman#incorrect sanders sides#patton sanders#virgil sanders#ts logan
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Also kind of funny that I always assumed the snake side of Janus’s face was intentionally made paler for contrast/to look more inhuman but it turns out this whole time they were just only putting foundation on half of his face lmao
#makes sense i guess. like why put foundation and nothing else on the other side#i would just never ever think to do something like that ig#janus tss#sanders sides#tss janus#ts janus#janus sanders#tss#thomas sanders sides
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I blacked out and more Logince HS AU appeared on my canvas idk what happened (also ty @oatmeal-stans-the-trash-rat for some inspiration sorry it took so long to make a post about Them <3)
#spoondoodles#sanders sides#sanders sides fanart#ts sides#tss#logan sanders#roman sanders#patton sanders#remus sanders#janus sanders#logince#I am here!!! for the platonic relationships!!!!! in this AU!!!!!!!#i have a strong character arc in my head about platonic logicality growing up together as childhood friends you have no idea asdfghj#i think they were very dependent on each other for many years so much so they'd copy each other but they're much more independent in HS#only remnant of that is that they have the same glasses + emotionally vent to each other a lot - their friends circle has grown enough#they don't live in each others' pockets anymore. roman + janus met in theatre + are gossip besties like they just talk shit together#(not completely sold on janus' design yet ngl i'm not happy with how i drew the vitilego but i'm working on it)#remus + logan are partners in chemistry in a classic teacher act of putting the 'disruptive' kid next to the 'good student' kid in hopes#that logan would stop remus acting out. predictably what happened instead is that they're friends now + remus is still as disruptive#but in a way that entertains logan so they get their work done early. now the teacher can't separate them. lol lmao.#remus knows ALL. but has been sworn to secrecy so can't say shit. janus knows roman's feelings but only suspects logan's.#patton didn't even have to be told by logan he just KNEW + is choosing not to speculate on roman's feelings b/c he's too polite.#virgil isn't here but that's b/c he also KNOWS without being told + is in an even more precarious position than remus. if they were#on better speaking terms he'd commiserate with remus. alas they are suffering separately.#anyway enough rambling from me. many thoughts head full.
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Two questions regarding the Wardi religion:
In addition to the bull and the lioness, what are the seven faces of god/sacrificial animals?
Given that white animals seem to be sacred, does that influence how albino humans/other sophents are treated by society?
The seven faces of God are as follows:
-the lunar, horned, or 'wild ox' face of God, which presides over the moons, and the fertility of the land, animals, and people. In pre-imperial times, this was functionally the most central face of God (replaced by the lion face/odomache). The most ideal sacrifice is a wild ox (especially white or albino) that has never been bred. -the ‘ox’ face of God, presides over agriculture and labor, as well as the domestic sphere. The most ideal sacrifice is a healthy plow oxen or khait who has never been yoked or bred (if the sacrifice is towards Ox-Face as the domestic sphere, this should be a heifer). -the lion face of God, presides over sovereignty, statehood, military might, and is most associated with the health and continuing existence of the imperial entity. The most ideal sacrifice is a maned lioness (functionally white, though this is a trait of the captive population). -the ocean or skimmer face of God, presides over the seas, winds, as well as fortune and mercantilism. The ideal sacrifice is the skimmer gull or an albatross, especially one taken from one of the sacred rocks in the 'mouth' of the Viper sea. -the serpent face of God, presides over the cosmos and divine Mysteries, associated with funerary rites and death. Also has a wildly disparate association with royalty (which is derived from entirely separate traditions and has not yet fully been reconciled into the faith). The ideal sacrifice is a two headed or melanistic snake, especially a venomous one (both would be MOST ideal, but this is rare beyond any practicality) -The solar face of God, presides over the sun, stars, and fire, also heavily associated with khait and mounted warriors. (this is a VERY direct import from the chief solar god in the Burri pantheon (who rides and/or is a khait with the sun between its horns), hence the seemingly random khait association). The ideal sacrifice is a healthy riding khait (especially with a white spotted coat), or alternatively a golden eagle. -The river face of God, presides over fresh water, seasonal flooding, and the rains. The ideal sacrifice is the migratory reed duck (which arrives at the onset of the wet season) or a freshwater hesperornis (ideally taken from one of the sacred waters). An-Nechoi are also occasionally given.
Though the core religion is monotheistic, each face of God is functionally a syncretic fusion of older ethnic Wardi beliefs, the Burri pantheon, and other regionally native traditions, which have not all been fully reconciled (the process of fusion is more or less still ongoing). Each face in of itself has dozens or more epithets with distinct features. For example, the river face has a specific epithet for each major riverway, each venerated as a distinct aspect of the Godhead. Functionally, common practice of the Wardi faith is pretty indistinguishable from polytheism, and most of the religious authority does not care as long as required orthopraxy is maintained (the central dogma of the religion does not care How you believe, but that the correct practices are enacted).
Also for reference, these are the specific animals taken on the pilgrimage in the story (transporting seven rare animals cross country can be fraught, so each had at least a few backups):
A pure white aurochs calf, found naturally born in a wild herd.
A massive, unbred and unyoked bull draft khait (dies en route, replaced by a less physically impressive backup with the same qualities)
A lioness with a full mane, from the white captive stock
A skimmer gull taken from a nest on the sacred rock in the waters of Od-Koto.
A baby two headed cobra (which dies en-route and is replaced with its backup, a melanistic viper)
A beautiful speckled riding khait mare whose horns form a near perfect circle (which is stolen en-route and replaced with its sister)
A rare wild hesperornis (haven't come up with an in-universe name yet) taken from the reeds of the Brilla river delta.
Anyway the sacrifices listed above are considered the absolute IDEALS when working with a specific face, but a great variety of animals will be sacrificed to various ends. There’s some very specific cultural/religious components to which animals are most valued, but in practice the value of a sacrifice is pretty close to 1:1 with the animal’s monetary value, at an intersection of utility and rarity.
So a young, healthy bull plow oxen who has never been bred or yoked is a more valued sacrifice than an old, experienced plow ox who has already sired offspring. You are giving up an extremely valuable animal and all its unused potential in a very practical sense, which makes the sacrifice more potent and valued. The 'virginal' status of the animal is key when the rite is SPECIFICALLY related to fertility, in the sense that the animal itself is sacrificing its unused fertility, allowing for the sacrifice-rebirth cycle to perpetuate. (Animals which Have been bred may be preferred in certain cases and rituals).
An animal with a rare coloration is usually going to be more valuable than one with more common genetics. This is the core root of why albino animals are of high value. It's less that white animals themselves are valued, just that rare genetics such as albinism = valuable sacrifice.
There are some specific exceptions where the color itself is significant (rather than just an extension of its rarity). God is specifically supposed to have taken the form of a white aurochs (itself emerged from the foam of the sea) during creation, so white oxen and wild oxen SPECIFICALLY have especially high value. Melanism or black scales are valued to the serpent face of God, which is associated with the cosmos and void behind the stars. (this stems from much, MUCH older beliefs in a cosmic serpent god in the region).
Animal sacrifice is a very significant part of the religious framework and involved in most rituals and prayers intended to affect significant change and transformation. (This is due in part to a deeply ingrained belief in the world being perpetually sustained in a cycle of sacrifice and rebirth, and in God Itself being the physical mechanism of rebirth and requiring sacrifice to be sustained). While blood itself is seen as potent, the nature of sacrifice isn't just 'spill blood and make thing happen', it's got a self contained value system and is very calculated and intentional in nature. You aren’t going to just grab a random rat and bleed it and pray, there needs to be a perceived ‘loss’. Sacrifice via killing is also not the only form, the most common day to day sacrifice is in (very minor) bloodletting and offerings of food and drink- the key is allowing a personal loss to sustain a greater cycle.
That being said, there is a HUGE trade system built up around the breeding and selling of animals solely for sacrifice. The industry revolves mostly around birds (doves are the cheapest, but also poultry, waterfowl, some birds of prey, a few select songbirds and ornamental birds), goats, sheep, and horses (the small, premodern kind). Cattle and camelids are a higher tier, and khait are among the highest of common sacrifices due to their great value.
Other animals that have no direct utility but are sacred are also bred or captured for sacrifice (hesperornis, lacetor, gulls and albatrosses, several kinds of snake, a bunch of wild ungulates, nechoi, etc). Some '''‘exotic’''' animals are imported specifically for this purpose, mostly as a means of displaying the wealth and reach of the state, with their sacrificial value rooted in the difficulty of acquisition. Animals taken from sacred sites are also prime candidates (ie cattle bred and grazed on the foothills of the Sons of Creation are VERY valuable).
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So all that being said the importance of albino animals has come off a little overstated on my part, and doesn't have any particular impact on how albinism in people is regarded. It’s valued mainly for its rarity in the context of animal sacrifice, which would not have direct translations to how it’s perceived in people.
Albinism in people doesn’t have a super well defined significance in broader Imperial Wardi culture, but perspectives mostly skew negative and towards seeing it as a sign of ill fortune (physical differences in people tend to be seen as a result of being cursed in the womb). Imperial Wardin is culturally diverse (united mostly by a identity based in shared religion), so exact nuances would vary and this statement should not be taken as a universal.
Imperial Wardi population is mostly human (with its citizen population being MAYBE 5% elowey, 2% qilik, and a decimal point of caelin). Overall sentiment towards other sophonts by the human majority is not outright hostile, but is human-centric and tinged with xenophobia (as most qilik and elowey in the region are immigrants, with the only elowey ethnic group historically inhabiting the region (the Jazait) being regarded as 'heathens'). Albino elowey or qilik might be similarly seen as products of a curse, or may be given a 'wow how beautiful' treatment (in a heavily patronizing capacity) and seen as a curiosity, or otherwise just subject to varying perspectives on albinism in the region.
The one other thing I have established in this vein is that the semi-mythological hero Janise (sworn brother of other semi-mythological founder hero Erub) is said to have been albino. While he is positively regarded, he is supposed to have died young of a snakebite (assumed to be the product of a curse from his enemies) and this would not improve perceptions of albinism being related to ill fortune.
#For a while I was typing aurochs as aurox. And this WAS intentional but I don't know what the point was because neither word would#be used in-universe (it's just translated as 'wild ox' in text) and it's not indicating a distinction with a real animal (like 'tyger' is).#So yeah it's back to just 'aurochs'.#Also Janeys is named after the historical Janise ('Janeys' is a more contemporary variant and is also a SUPER common name)#(variants include Janis Janes Jannes Janey Jani Jane Janus.....etc)#There's also like 10 trillion people named Erub or Erubi or Erubin or Erubnos or Urib or Urbi or Urbin .. etc#Super committed to realism by having several characters in the same story with the same name. There's like 4 background#characters with Erub names and 2 other Janeys variants. Which is hard on the reader and kind of bad writing but suffer with me. etc.#None of this is related to core post questions I just can't not elaborate on various niche details#OH ONE SEMI RELEVANT THING. Hesperornis is not extinct in this setting but only freshwater species survive in the contemporary#They don't get as big as the marine species we know from Real Life but they're still pretty big and flightless and only live in#large healthy river in this region (therefore are increasingly diminished) and are considered sacred#I got a couple drawings on deck that involve them but I don't think they've come up on here before#the white calf#imperial wardin
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for some of these i put more thought into their design than their character, for others i put more thought into their character than their design. can you guess which are which?
original sketch and pose reference under cut


#i totally didn't add the last bullet on the list because i put off deciding on what type of animal he should be for too long#why would you think that?#i started drawing these cause i wanted to write a fanfic about this au but i haven't been in much of a mood to write recently#i just flip between wanting to write all the time and wanting to draw all the time#sanders sides#sasi#sanders sides au#sanders sides fanart#sanders sides fusions#patton sanders#janus sanders#my art#more of these fusions are probably gonna have -us names than -an or -on names#cause it's just easier to find thematically relevant -us names#i just pick any character from greek mythology
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i have aired my frustrations about people complaining about janus’s recent characterization but i have to agree that his current makeup is a HUGE downgrade. i’m so sorry but that black line looks so weird and awkward, i keep getting distracted by it 😭 it used to look something like a scar, a lot more subtle and natural but now it looks like it was drawn on with a sharpie.
#i get that it’s because the makeup artist changed#but i wish they would try to replicate the original makeup better#i don’t want to sound rude but this just looks like the dollar store version of janus#the pink around the eye is also a lot more saturated and looks artificial#i love sanders sides but i will criticize it when necessary#sanders sides#thomas sanders#thomas sanders sides#tss#sasi#janus sanders#tss crit
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What is your unpopular shadowhunter opinions 👁️👁️
okay so i’m not sure if this can be classified as an unpopular opinion but ig it could???? but basically i am strongly against the conviction that many people in this fandom have that cassie will kill off someone from the tmi gang in twp. like… c’mon now. i think it’s highley unlikely she would kill any of such beloved characters, like people would riot (people being me). and i think her implying their deaths in any way is just her way of simply teasing us and trying to mess with the fandom before the release lol!!! (and that’s not to say that something bad won’t happen to a member of the tmi gang or that they’ll not suffer) i’m just saying i doubt she would off them,uknow? but what a punch in the gut it would be if she actually did do it!
#this is all just speculation#but idk it’s kinda a gut feeling#like she wouldnt DARE to kill any of them off#(besides probably janus and does he count really?)#but if she does decide to be E V I L then she will have to go through US (!!!)#and let me tell u it would NOT be pleasant#clary fairchild#jace herondale#alec lightwood#magnus bane#isabelle lightwood#simon lewis#the mortal instruments#tmi#the wicked powers#twp#tsc#asks
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