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Why Do Old-School TV Duos Have SUCH MLM Vibes?!
I think there’s something very specific about the formula and writing style of non-serialized/semi-serialized shows from the 60s to 80s that featured two grown men going on wacky dangerous adventures that makes my gay little literary analysis brain go absolutely off the wall bonkers. I’m trying to figure out why!
I’m writing this on my Trek blog because I don’t think this pattern in people actually shipping these types of relationships the way they do if fandom as we know it wasn’t born via TOS in syndication. That being said! I also think it has to do with the way these shows are designed that makes myself and others OBSESSED with a specific character dynamic that feels (to me) damn near impossible to replicate in modern television. In a way that’s more than just fandom, it’s in the way TV like this was written at the time!
Further explanation under the cut!
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I think what it usually boils down to is this. There’s a charming protagonist whom without the series could not operate, frequently top billed or the title character! (See: Wild Wild West, Starsky & Hutch) BUT he doesn’t have anyone to play off of! So what do they do pretty much every single time? Give Mr. Idealized Vision of Time-Period Masculinity For Genre a second guy to rhyme with!
See but the other guy has to play opposite but parallel to our hypermasculine protagonist. So what frequently ends up happening is that in order to play off our “normal” guy, even though he’s also a white dude, is that he’s still somehow Other.
They’re always perfect for each other, and they always get into scenarios that would be written, shot and interpreted by conventional audiences as romantic IF either one of those characters were a woman! Especially at the time these shows were made in.
If the one is aggressive, the other is gentle. If the protagonist is violent, his counterpart is intellectual. If the one is stoic, the other is emotional. Which (while one size def doesn’t fit all) usually makes the second guy come off as much more queer-coded (and sometimes other minorities like neurodivergent/disabled etc) than the other because of the traits associated with masculinity vs gayness at the time! Our prime examples in these gifs are Spock, Hutch, Artemus, and also *BJ!
*(M*A*S*H is a bit of a unique case since the show flirts with queerness more openly in ways that people more into the series have explained better than me but I think it still fits the formula I’m discussing.)
Here’s the thing though right? We’ve got two best friends, and the show NEVER really feels right if one of them is missing unless the focus of the story is how A & B operate without each other while trying to find the other one. They stick with and rescue each other unfailingly in scenarios that might destroy a regular friendship.
Hell, there’s often stuff that would emotionally/physically destroy a regular person/character in modern media. But because it’s not serialized they always seem to pull through seemingly through the power of friendship alone or dealing with it off-screen! Emotional consequences? Yuck! (Unless it’s M*A*S*H or Starsky & Hutch, like I said, not monolithic)
Here’s the thing that some people might say throws a wrench into the interpretation I’m discussing. What about the absolutely non-stop parade of conventionally attractive women the main protagonist (and less frequently the supporting man) goes through?
I would reply: how many of those female characters actually emotionally impact our protagonists as characters long term?
The answer is of course, because it’s NOT serialized, almost none! Kirk can watch Edith Keeler get killed by a car accident and still be making eyes at Spock the next episode. Hawkeye can have a “life changing” romance with a Vietnamese humanitarian woman, then share a blanket with BJ next episode like she never existed!
The Doylist explanation of course is not just the fact it wasn’t serialized but also just, constant, blatant 20th century sexism. Which SUCKS!!! As well as not wanting a long term love interest to throw off the character dynamic of our duderagonists. It’s the 20th century tv equivalent of bros before hoes.
However the Watsonian explanation always seems to result in no love interest EVER being more important than what the two protagonists have no matter whether you think they’re queer or not. No attractive woman could make our reputed babe-hound protagonist abandon his buddy. There’s no earnest romance our more queer-coded supporting man doesn’t end (or get ended for him) often for the protagonist’s sake.
Now some of these women are incredibly well written and straight up GOOD matches for our guys. So why wouldn’t they get involved in something long term UNLESS!! They were in love with each other the WHOLE time?
What if protagonist (frequently the babe hound) doesnt know he’s queer, or knows but doesn’t know he’s in love with his bestie, or any number of similar fruity explanations? The supporting man also runs into this explanation but people tend to believe he’s already aware that he’s queer but either also doesn’t know he’s in love or is keeping it to himself because time-period homophobia and/or thinking (probably not unreasonably) that babe hound is straight?
Between the inherent closeness of being narrative foils. The regularly scheduled life or death drama creating sometimes insanely romantic (in the narrative if not a literal sense) drama between the two. The revolving door of weekly women they never seem to get attached to enough to leave one another. The non-serialized nature resulting in sparse personal information/history about the protagonists as a result.
I think between the very NATURE of the way tv shows were written at the time. Plus the way fandom was shaped by a dynamic that has rippled through how media works and is interpreted by fans for decades upon decades. It’s not hard to imagine getting really emotionally invested in the possibility of the protagonists being in love is a fantastic way to enjoy the media!
In conclusion, it’s really fun and easy to go “these bitches gay! Good for them good for them!”
#Star Trek#star trek the original series#Star Trek tos#tos#james kirk#Spock#spirk#k/s#James west#Artemus Gordon#wild wild west#Jim west/artemus Gordon#m*a*s*h#hawkeye pierce#bj hunnicutt#Hawkeye/bj#Hawkeye/trapper#starsky and hutch#starsky/hutch#ken hutchinson#dave starsky#vintage television#queer#lgbt#gay#meta#meta analysis#queer analysis#queer representation#mlm
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Hello my fellow Wild Wild Westies! I’ve made a discord for this tiny little fandom so we can stay in the loop about incoming fanworks and discuss the show!
Please join if you are interested!
#the wild Wild West#wild Wild West#Artemus Gordon#Artemus#Ross martin#James west#Jim west#robert conrad#Jim/artie#Jim/artemus#1960s#1960s media#1960s television#vintage#vintage television
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Jim West's Train
The Gold Sofa
“The private railroad car loaned to James West by the U.S. government should have had its own billing as the third star of the series. Built at a cost of $35,000, the train set appears in every episode. Serving as the agents’ home, as well as their mobile base of operations, the train contains a lab, where Artemus creates his various gadgets and disguises, and the main living quarters—attractively furnished in golds and greens—where the men conduct business, as well as entertain.
“The gold sofa was a key piece of furniture on that set. During the run of the series, its luxurious, golden cushions were enjoyed by such varied personalities as the president of the United States, members of royalty, and foreign dignitaries, as well as an assortment of criminal masterminds who invariably found their way onto West’s private car.
“Both Jim and Artie would probably agree, however, that the sofa had its most memorable use at the end of each assignment—at the tag of nearly every Wild Wild West episode—when two lovely ladies would curl up on this sofa in the arms of our heroes. The theme music would swell as the train chugged along the tracks into the distance, the two agents enjoying a well-earned rest from having, once more, saved out great nation from the forces of evil.”
— "The Incredible World of Spy-Fi" by Danny Biederman (2004)
BONUS: Fringe details and Jim's red velvet smoking jacket
#James West#James T West#Jim West#Artemus Gordon#Ross Martin#Robert Conrad#The Wild Wild West#TWWW#The Wild Wild West tv#props#sets#The Wanderer#my gifs#The Incredible World of Spy-Fi#Danny Biederman#we queue we happy queue
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Jim and Artie being best friends
#whump blog#whump gif#whump community#vintage whump#james west#the wild wild west#worry#artemus gordon#best friends
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Not sure if this is the best way to do this, but I’m looking for some fanfic recommendations on the following -
DS9 - Garak/Bashir
Wild Wild West - Artie/Jim
I have only just found out about AO3, but I literally don’t know where to start, so if anyone has any recs I would be eternally grateful.
#hit me up#recommendations please#star trek#fanfic#ship fic#the wild wild west#Jim/artie#james west#artemus gordon#garak x bashir#Jim x Artie#garashir#julian x garak#star trek ds9#ds9#star trek fic#wild wild west
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WIP Wednesday
Tagging: @bearlytolerant, @silurisanguine, @aro-pancake, @fangbangerghoul, @atonalginger, @aislingdmdt, @fshenkoescape, @ninjaofnaps, @lisa-and-shadow, @a-cosmic-elf, @thatsgoodsquishy0, @hockeydemon42, @fomagranfalloon @violenceandviolets, and @artemis-crimson
Y'all know the score, post if you've got 'em, and if not, just enjoy!
from stars through my fingers like grains of sand
The remains of lunch were scattered across the table. Knowing how even a short dogfight could take it out of someone, Sam had flat refused to let Cait cook. Wasn't like she hadn't already prepared a week's worth of meals already; all he had to do was reheat a few. "I'm telling you," Cora repeated patiently, "we all need secret identities. The sidekick always has a name related to the hero."
"So what are you," Sam teased. "Insectikid?"
"Young Mantis!" Cora countered.
"Too derivative," Sam chuckled. "The Spiderette? The Caterpillar?"
"Da-ad!" Cora gave him an exasperated look while Cait sat back quietly and smiled. "Mantises don't come from caterpillars."
"So what do they come from?" she asked logically.
"Nymphs," Cait offered.
Sam shook his head. "Nope, vetoing that one right now." His daughter was too young to be 'nymph' anything.
Cait tilted her head, thinking, while Sam and Cora tossed even more ridiculous names back and forth—and not just for her. "I don't need a name," he argued. "I'm not the sidekick."
"The fearless partner," Cait murmured, low and amused.
"Auuuugh! Dad, that's not how it works! If you're the partner of the Mantis, you can't be just you! You might blow her cover, or someone could use you to get to her!" Cora got up and was pacing back and forth, throwing her hands around in a twelve-year-old frenzy.
"If I might?" Cait was turning something over in her hands, and she had a wry smile on her face. "I think I can solve both these conundrums." She looked over at Cora. "For you? The Phasmid. Phasmids are related to mantises, but sneakier."
"Ooooh, I know what those are!" Cora enthused. "They're ambush predators that look like other things, like leaves and sticks and flowers!"
"Or in your case, a twelve-year-old girl," Sam teased. "Waiting to strike against any unwary library or bookstore that might pass her way."
"I LOVE IT!" Cora bounced over and gave Cait a hug. Cait, for her part, seemed to be getting used to Cora's adolescent enthusiasm, and returned it less awkwardly than usual. "So what's that?" Cora pointed at the thing Cait was fiddling with.
"Something I found in one of the abandoned bases we were exploring," Cait said, laying it on the table. It was a hand-written card; on yellowing paper, it read:
MERC FOR HIRE HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL SSCOM: 1957PDIN
Sam looked down at it, then back up at Cait, raising an eyebrow. "Seriously?" He'd been a fan of the classic vids as a kid, of course, had thrilled to the adventures of Josh Randall, Agents James West and Artemus Gordon, and—of course—Paladin.
She shrugged. "Aren't you always telling me to go big or go home? Besides, we've resurrected one legend today, why not two?"
Sam felt a slow smile cross his face. "I do cut a dashing figure in black…" He slapped the table in sudden decision. "All right. Let's do it. The Mantis and Paladin, partners in anti-crime."
"And me!" Cora piped up.
"And our fearless sidekick the Phasmid," he agreed. Drink packs were awkward for making a toast, but they managed to slosh them together anyway. "May all our victories be as sweet," Sam declared.
#sam coe#fanfic#eridani writes#starfield#caitlyn lynch#stars through my fingers like grains of sand#wip wednesday#josh randall - wanted dead or alive#james west and artemus gordon - wild wild west#the tv series not the wretched movie#paladin - have gun will travel
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James West & Artemus Gordon “The Wild Wild West”
“Soldier”
#robert conrad#james west#the wild wild west#the wild wild west tv#jim west#the-wild-wild-west#twww#www#tww#artemus gordon#Youtube
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The Death Stare
Summary: How much are James West and Artemus Gordon willing to sacrifice, in order to prevent a stolen experimental lethal virus to fall into the wrong hands?
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”WEST!” Thomas Gabriel was intently scanning the area, gun clasped firmly in his right hand and the left arm keeping a solid grip around Artemus’ neck – cowardly using the agent as a human shield. A trail of blood originated from Artie’s right eyebrow, the gaze from the normally warm brown eyes was slightly dimmed and unfocused following the hard blow he had previously received. Artie’s hands were now cuffed in front of him, but despite this restrain, he still weakly struggled to pry the arm away from his throat to get free, but the other man did not even flinch at his futile attempts. The chains kept clanking, as Gordon was harshly steered around on wobbly legs by the armed goon, down the main street passing through the heart of the abandoned eerily town, constantly moving jerkily, making it near impossible to shoot the armed man without first hitting the agent.
”I KNOW YOU’RE SOMEWHERE IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY, MR WEST! IF YOU DON’T COME OUT THIS INSTANT, AND WILLINGLY HAND OVER THE VIRUS TO ME, YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MR GORDON’S IMMINENT SUFFERING AND DEATH!”
”JIM, DON’T-”, Artemus begun, but the muzzle was immediately moved from his temple to below his cheek, forcing his head to lean back, silencing him with an accompanied gentle hush.
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Read the full story here:
…or here:
~ Kangelane_Wild Wild West 🤓📚📖
#my fanfiction#wild wild west#james west#jim west#artemus gordon#artie#jim#AO3#fanfic.net#Kangelane_Wild Wild West#Kangelane
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Cool News Guys
Guess who finally has an AO3 Account?! MEEEEEE!
Am I slowly but surely putting all of my Captain Pike x Reader fics on there? YES!
Would it be awesome if y'all checked it out? ALSO YES!!
BEHOLD :D
All of my Star Trek stuff is under IchayaLovesYou as a pseudonym of my main account! My non-trek (BG3 and WIld WIld West) stuff are under my main account.
#ao3#archive of our own#blog news#excited!!!#fanfiction#fanfic#fan writing#fan works#captain pike#captain pike x reader#christopher pike x reader#chris pike x reader#star trek#star trek strange new worlds#star trek discovery#wild wild west#the wild wild west#james west#artemus gordon#jim west/artemus gordon#halsin#halsin silverbough#bg3#baldur's gate 3#tav x halsin
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When I say I was not PREPARED. I mean, I had seen gif sets of this clip before but I was NOT prepared for the AUDIO. Oh my god poor Artie!
The Night of The Death Masks really was Artemus's terrible no good very bad day. He gets betrayed, drugged, kidnapped, shot in the leg and then is led to believe he killed his boyfriend best friend!
The dropping the gun and then to his knees in despair, the terrible little "oh no's" and the way his voice breaks when he says "Jim". The closest we get to this level of sad before then I think is in Druid's Blood where Artemus is very visibly trying not to break down while Jim is seemingly gravely injured and comatose.
But what REALLY gets me in this scene is the sobbing, which is wild considering by that point Artie knows Jim isn't dead! A testament to how good of an actor Artie/Ross is!
I mean it's really difficult to get crying/sobbing to sound right when you aren't actually crying let alone look real and he does both. He's actually shaking and everything, you can feel it, I feel like some actors even today forget we cry with our whole bodies, and he does.
That's really impressive. Especially considering the fact that art hadn't exactly been perfected for TV or film yet. Male characters in particular considering how such intense displays of sadness were rare (unless somebody actually died) and even then it was kinda hit or miss at times. I'm just so impressed.
Acting (good acting anyway) tends to lead you to pull from real life experiences to put emotion into your performance. I can only imagine Artie just sort of, unpaused the emotional reaction he was having when he really thought Jim was dead in order to convince Stark and Co that he still believed it.
It would've been really easy for them to have played this scene for laughs. To let Artie play up the crying as a comedic bit, but neither Ross nor the director took that angle I really love that.
The emotional depth of Jim and Artemus's relationship is really well displayed in how this scene was done. Even if part of it was a ploy and they jump back into the action-adventure shenanigans right after. It's really well balanced, and in a time where it feels like a lot of TV writing has lost touch with when to be tender/intense and when to be funny this scene just really stuck out to me.
I really do love this show.
#wild wild west#the wild wild west#artemus gordon#artemus#jim west#james west#ross martin#robert conrad#jim/artie#jim/artemus#the night of the death masks#the night of the druids blood#tnot death masks#tnot druids blood#vintage television#1960s television#meta#meta analysis#wild wild west meta
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IT'S FINALLY STREAMING! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
Right now it's on Amazon Prime, for those of you who have it.
#the wild wild west#the wild wild west tv#robert conrad#ross martin#jim west#james west#artemus gordon
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Jim and Artie, The Wild Wild West
#best friends#television#vintage#vintage television#the wild wild west#jim west#james west#artemus gordon#ross martin#robert conrad
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19!!!! 😘
Skyeeeeeee! You got it babe!
19. name a movie so bad it’s good
THERE ARE SO MANY. But I gotta throw back to a movie I watched probably 15 times when I was a kid - Wild Wild West. Was it good? No. Do I remember any of the plot? Also no. But why did I watch it so much?
I really couldn't tell you.
But if you want a fun recommendation, you would actually enjoy the TV show the movie was loosely based on, The Wild Wild West. I watched it most Sunday mornings with my dad and it was super fun! From Wikipedia:
Developed at a time when the television Western was losing ground to the spy genre, this show was conceived by its creator, Michael Garrison, as "James Bond on horseback."[5] Set during the administration of President Ulysses S. Grant (1869–1877), the series followed Secret Service agents James West (Robert Conrad) and Artemus Gordon (Ross Martin) as they foiled the plans of megalomaniacal villains to take over part or all of the United States, protected the President, and solved crimes. The show featured a number of fantasy elements, such as the technologically advanced devices used by the agents and their adversaries. The combination of the Victorian era time-frame and the use of Vernean technology has led several steampunk web sites to cite the show as a pioneering influence on the genre.[6] This aspect was accentuated even more in the 1999 film adaptation.
I need to find somewhere to watch it again!
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thinking about ~ * them * ~
#the wild wild west#the wild wild west tv#james west#jim west#robert conrad#artemus gordon#ross martin
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#The Wild Wild West#James West#Artemus Gordon#whump#The Night of the Simian Terror#my gifs#I made this gifset a year and a half ago#and then tragically my computer ate the rest of the gifs 😡#I've been meaning to redo them but clearly that hasn't happened yet#so here you go#weird episode but the whump is stellar#original post
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I cannot get over how Jim looks at Artemus while Arte is pretending to be a saddlebag preacher
And then Arte coming into the crowd andanding out pamphlets about The Devil's Temptations and directly handing one to Jim and saying it'll help him specifically 😂
#wild wild west#james west#artemus gordon#nothing like flirting with the power of 1800's chick tracts#shortly after this Jim actually rejects a woman's overtures for once#Implication: Jim agrees he needs to resist temptation in order to impress the preacher man
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