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What’s with this sassy, lost child?
#my art#artists on tumblr#yun did a thing#obey me#obey me shall we date#omswd#obey me nightbringer#obey me meme#obey me memes#luke obey me#obey me luke#omswd meme#om! meme#this is basically his introduction#it’s canon I’m solmare#om! swd#AAAAHAHUEGSAI HIS HANDS ARE BACKWARDS IM SORRY#I REALIZE THIS LIKE 14 HOURS AFTER POSTING
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People don’t talk about MC needing to wear a magical ring to not accidentally yk cause NATURAL DISASTERS with their powers??? Not only accidentally but without realising???
Diavolo or smthn is asking too much of MC or being a bit too annoying and their other hand slowly drifts towards the ring and they hold onto it while maintaining dead eye contact. Like continue to piss me off hoe I’ll blink and blow a hole in your castle idk
Obv they never do it (or do they?) but the threat is there and it’s a risk dia (or whoever but I’m using dia) can’t take
#‘MC it’s your turn to take the trash out!’#*slowly reaches for the ring*#‘on second thought-‘#type beat#no cause why have I not seen ANYONE talk about how MCs magic is so strong they were GETTING RID OF PONDS in the celestial realm#and CREATING SINK HOLES in the devildom#I’ve also heard they were causing Natural disasters in the human world but I don’t remember if that was canon or not#imagine an MC that has sensory issues that means they struggle to wear rings to sleep#or just the DENT MC would get on their fingers from it😭#uf it was lucifers ring then it might not even fit on most fingers if your MC is small. like#new toe ring just dropped ig? gotta go on the thumb dude#obey me#obey me solmare#obey me!#obey me shall we date#btw if ur seeing this#are you guys getting tired of these low effort posts that just revise the canon in joke form#because I’m just being lazy and I can try putting in more effort and writing more full five if u want💔#I have a fic and some ideas in my drafts but i can never seem to put my motivation towards writing#always art#which I don’t even post 99%#and when I do it’s basically never on this acc it’s my art/oc one#so this acc gets neglected#these tags are too long peace out chat
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i know you probably have a lot of requests so pls no pressure but can i pretty pLEASE beg you for transmasc mammon i’m on my Knees 🫶🏻 him being trans is so canon btw i know bc mammon is just like me fr (i’m threatening solmare to never mess with my mammon hcs, so real) (i’m sane about mammon)
HELLO ANON im so sorry this took me forever to get around to, here's transmasc mams for your pocket :D i hope it's okay i gave him nipple piercings hahaha my friend has converted me and i fully believe he has them now
#ask box#obey me mammon#obey me#obey me art#sorry i dont have any interesting ideas for his top scars this time but im happy to accept any ideas if yall have any >:3
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“Solmare please look up continuity”
//Yes 💯 please I’m suffering over here with conflicting pieces of lore that I have to still treat each separate item as canon…
I swear the devs don’t even keep track of the random facts they drop in their own game
I feel bad sometimes when I see certain facts get put out by the bot because it’s like Schrodinger’s lore over here, and when people ask me like “but that doesn’t make sense because (other canon piece of lore)!” All I can say is “yes ���” because the devs can’t keep their own lore straight
Yes I’m talking about Beel being able to smell angels/demons/humans, being basically ignored for the first several lessons of NB
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Just wanted to say how grateful I am to have artists, and content creators in general, like you in the fandom❤️ I like your portrayal to every character, the four stages concept is so interesting.❤️
It's a shame solmare never thought about going beyond showing a pair of horns and wings as a "demonic" form, the designs makes them look like they're wearing a halloween costume rather than being actual high ranked demons, and now with how their personalities have wattered down, they're just men with demon names.
That means a lot to me! I’m still surprised my designs are getting as much traction as they are when I first made them 2-3 years ago. Concept art is my profession so creating new ideas is what I love to do, even playing around with things that already exist.
I got into Obey me! originally because I did like the designs at first. The RAD uniform is great, and the characters “demon” outfits are also nicely designed, in my opinion. Everything feels it “goes together”. But I noticed as time went on and new events came out, the design choices were…interesting. Some of the costumes are just??? Like the color choices, the shapes??? Even now I’ll see some stuff and I’m like WHO IS DESIGNING THIS?? Now if you like it, that’s cool, it just ain’t for me. So, I’ll make content I do like and share it with others who might like it too!
I personally love horror and dark art, and monsters (obviously), and when I want demons, I want DEMONS. I want the story to be messy, tragic, and horrifying, but some humor to lighten it up, you know? If Obey me! had any of that I would still be playing. So as of now, I just have my own fan canon and story for it for fun.
I’m currently looking forward to the new game TouchStarved and hope it might be more what my taste is.
Also, I did get some attention from the official obey me twitter when I first uploaded the monster design of Leviathan. And that was super cool! But that also means that since they’ve seen it, it will most likely not happen, because I know some things can get messy if they start creating concept based on fanart. (I believe Tekken had some issues creating some characters because they kept seeing fanart of what they wanted to make but couldn’t, because of legal reasons). But then again, they could also make their own designs but uhhh…my expectations are not high. I’ve seen other artists create their own monster versions and the creativity is incredible. Sometimes fans make better content, honestly.
Thanks for sticking around and liking my stuff! I’ll keep making it if you guys keep liking it. 🙂↕️
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So, I’m working on some big worldbuilding things for my Obey Me! rewrite. So, I must ask-
Would you rather the rewrite be more biblically accurate (ex, the angels being reorganized into whatever rank they would ACTUALLY hold according to the lore) or should I stick with what Solmare has given us as canon in that respect?
I personally would have to do a lot of research, as i am ex-mormon and blocked out pretty much everything I learned with the church from my mind, but I’m more than willing to do so if people are interested in the accuracy.
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{{ roleplay blog for belphegor from obey me!: one master to rule them all. remake. }}
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21+/indie/semi selective
mostly blog/online style posting supplemented with narrative. may do threads as though theyre in-person, but i like to talk about them first rather than just have it happen suddenly.
only canon up to the pact; if you know what that means, that’s good! if you don’t, it isn’t a big issue.
please don’t just approach my character as though it’s in person without first asking me; that is to say, if you’d like that sort of thread/roleplay, please talk with me first.
ic is not ooc. this is playing pretend on the internet for fun, fictional stories.
potentially mature themes; this is one of the cardinal sins. he likes horror and isn’t immune to violent outbursts; canonically, he’s murdered the protagonist in cold blood once and then he really tried it twice the moment he thought he saw them breathing and upright again. him and his brothers have eviscerated other demons as a bonding exercise. his favorite food involves monster brains in a stew. themes of depression and grief. discretion advised.
do feel free to throw anons/magic anons at belphie. magic is a factor in this universe, it’s not beyond the pale to think a mysterious power can throw things at him; i do have a right to pick or not pick ones i do or don’t like.
do feel free to make comments at belphie on the dashboard, i mean. hopefully obviously. interaction is good.
do feel free to message me/dm me if you need anything. let me know if i’ve missed something, or tell me if you have any ideas or want to see about anything. its fun to bounce ideas around, it feels friendly and sociable.
i am so relaxed. very little bothers me fictionally/media-wise. i am not going into politics on this blog, let alone over cartoons, i mean… i made it to relax and have fun… please understand.
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another sin on solmare’s tally: i just crossed the 25k mark of my fic and i have to rewrite like.. at MINIMUM a third of it because solmare decided to put their lore behind a paywall and relying on me being able to coherently read the (two separate and disconnected) wiki(s) means i misinterpret fundamental parts of canon and only find out i’m wrong after i make said incorrect fact a borderline centerpiece of the fic.
this post is about simeon lore. solmare got one thing about biblical canon correct and it’s that lemons taste sweet when compared to god’s ‘grace’
— blue
IM SO LATE TO THIS BUT BLUE. BLUE NO. BLUE NO!!!!!!! you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! canon is YOURS now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly the lore for this game is SO inaccessible i just make things up as i go along. the more confidence you play it with, the better. I think stressing over canon details and stuff makes writing more difficult at times, especially when you've found inspiration in a specific idea .
listen if solmare wont comply to the canon of their source material (bible) then you dont have to comply to the source material of your writing (obm) . shakes you
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I’ve made a few posts on the topic! You may be on to something!
So, one of my theories is that NB could be Barbatos working under Solomon via pact. That could be why he’s so angry.
Another is that NB could be both Barb and Sol working together and it’s an alias for the two of them.
And I have touched on Sol being NB. It’s funny that so many characters comment on not considering him human anymore. It might not mean anything but then again it might be a hint to something more. Thirteen notes that his soul changed after he made his pact with Barb. Sol’s soul was once similar to MC’s before that.
I’m not sure what the timelines are going to end up being. If this is past Sol or current Sol is hard to tell due to his access to Barbatos’ time knowledge.
There’s even a possibility no one is in the past. A lot of characters are exhibiting symptoms more similar to amnesia or trauma related memory loss. This could be one mass illusion that only MC and Solomon can see through. And if Solomon’s the one that started it…he could have lied about MC disappearing from their world.
Otherwise, if they truly are in a different timeline (as things have been altered now), there’s no way present day Solomon could have past Barbatos in the NB timeline under his control bc the timeline has split and there’s another Solomon for that timeline, not just the past. They talked about the multiverse theory in game through Solomon so it’s canon that multiple timelines can exist. I’m not sure the direction Solmare is going yet but they have options. As someone who’s watched documentaries on quantum physics it’s interesting and a pleasant surprise to find in an otome.
As far as intentions go, I’m honestly wondering what it is for Solomon.
Initially, I thought that maybe he wanted someone to help him defend humanity as it’s lonely to be the sole protector.
Later, I thought that maybe he wants to use MC as an example of how humans should be seen on equal footing as demons and angels.
Recently, I’m almost concerned it’s because he wants MC all to himself or to make MC rely on him. Some of the texts between them are getting a little too comfortable - almost like he planned this. The tone sounds almost manipulative in a way. It’s hard to explain but something just seems off. I really like Solomon regardless lol so this would just make him all the more interesting to me!
I don’t necessarily think his motives are bad either. He just may not have the right approach. Humans are viewed as inferior to demons and angels and the other beings are often butting into their lives and trying to influence their world from what recent lessons show. He’s trying to change their views and again, he’s the only human that can currently hold his own against them. MC is getting there so this may even be some sort of trial.
[THEORY. SPOILERS INCLUDED]
Imagine if Solomon is Nightbringer. Point being:
-Future Solomon knows MC’s relationship with the brothers well. So does Nightbringer.
- He is also the first to reach out to us. Wouldn’t it be easier for him to ask Barbatos to contact us and pull our ass back?
Some of y’all may want to argue that if Solomon is the past Solomon, why didn’t he remember the beef he had with Barbatos?
He DOES. You’re telling me he can remember some ancient ass spells and can’t remember the beef that got the time demon to despise him. X to doubt. Would he really tell you his true motive? After all he is the witty sorcerer.
More proof? Nightbringer is brought up at one point in the lesson too. Some dead person said that Nightbringer told them their prophecy and that MC has the capability of fulfilling it. So Nightbringer do know the power MC has.
- Why is this being brought up? Who else is messing with the past like Nightbringer is? Solomon. Like him casually saying that they should avoid doing anything that messes with the future but also making a pact with Asmo and yet no consequences. He’s fine.
- Maybe past Solomon also heard about his prophecy from Nightbringer.
- Not to mention he doesn’t really act the same as he did in the present. Given that Solomon did live for a long time, it’s safe to assume that he knows a thing or two about capturing one’s heart, whether human or demons.
Want even more proof? Who’s the one narrating the Prologue Movie? Solomon.
Not to mention the lines from it:
“With a flurry of trumpets from his king, the demon appeared.”
- The only king we ever known is probably the Demon King (Diavolo’s dad) but would he really care about some human? Not likely.
- However in biblical textbooks, Solomon is referred to as King Solomon. He also mentions somewhere in season 2 in the original game that he did build a large “house” (looks at castle in the video that is not likely the demon lord’s castle 👀).
- King of the time demon, perhaps a pack master?
I believe his plan goes like this:
Send MC back to the past to his past self.
No brother is gonna cockblock them since they live under the same roof and the brothers are not familiar with MC yet.
Flirty sorcerer becomes the only source of comfort, only one MC can rely on.
Use MC as a tool to gain respect. If his apprentice is strong enough to handle the seven demon brothers, it’ll make other demons see him as more of a threat.
Persuading them to stand by Humanity. Who is the only human other than MC we know? Solomon. Standing by humanity means he wants us to stand by HIM.
But that’s just a theory. A game theory! And cut.
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Lowkey glad I never really fleshed out that thing I had with Dola and the Reaper granting her some kind of conditional immortality because that’s going to be a lot of rewriting depending on how Thirteen is
#I’ve got this wip just titled ‘meeting the reaper’ and my god already solmare do the work for me I guess#though since I’ve gone super off canon anyway idk might not follow what the writers actually put in#depends#i love the idea that thirteen recognizes mc because they’ve died twice (or more depending on your mcs background)#and I’m so aaaaaaaa#cannot wait to meet thirteen please#dolasach
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I HALF CALLED IT!
Lesson 56 spoilers
I’m over here still struggling to get my DK headcanon story together and Solmare is over there dropping the actually canon lol~
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MC’s Half Demon and They Look Awfully Familiar Part 4
(The side characters strike again!)
Part 1 Part 2 Lessons 1-5 Part 2.5 Group Retreat Lessons 10-12 Part 3
L!MC= Lucifer’s kid | M!MC= Mammon’s kid | A!MC=Asmo’s kid
Let’s get right to it!
The Uncle That Hardcore Simps For His Spouse In the Most Wholesome Way (Diavolo)
Gasp! More half-demon kids? Oh my! Maybe if he tried again next year a kid of his own would pop down! Hang on- he hadn’t slept with a human in almost a century... dang. No kids for him...
...maybe...
Remember when I said Diavolo would try to do those stereotypical dad (tm) things and be hip with the kids? Yeah he keeps doing that.
The number of broken windows related to wayward baseballs goes up 150%. At least that’s how they all figured out that M!MC is nearsighted like their dad!
M!MC had developed a bit of a habit of telling Diavolo about cool human stuff and making the Crown Prince even more interested in the human world than normal.
You may be thinking “what’s so bad about that?” well, the number of yo-yos at RAD went up so high that Lucifer had to ban them.
Belphie and Satan, being the rebels they are, became yo-yo masters specifically to spite Lucifer.
It was sort of like the fidget spinners craze if you were in school for that.
Oh, hi Lord Diavolo. What’s a fidget spinner? It’s this- I should stop talking...
Since no one learned their lesson from the previous incident, Diavolo threw another BBQ.
“Why are we doing this again?” L!MC asked to no one in particular.
“Don’t worry, L!MC. I’ve taken every precaution possible to make sure that what happened last time doesn’t happen again.” Diavolo said and continued in his crusade to cover the entire pathway with sidewalk chalk doodles.
L!MC, Luke, Diavolo, M!MC, Belphie, and A!MC were all busily drawing a wide variety of doodles and drawings with chalk while the other guests milled around nearby. A!MC was in the middle of drawing quite the nice looking Cerberus chibi, while M!MC and Belphie were drawing a lot of stick figures. L!MC and Luke had just finished a wonderful drawing of... an alpaca? Giraffe? Thing...? Hell, even they didn’t know what it was.
Diavolo looked over at M!MC’s stick figure army with a big smile on his face. “So what are all of them doing? It looks like that one’s flying!”
You could practically hear the Addam’s Family theme play as M!MC and Belphie looked at each other and grinned.
“Oh Belphie was just talking about L!MC’s flying lesson fails and I felt that an artist’s rendition was needed.” M!MC explained, he began to point out certain doodles. “Here’s L!MC getting up off the ground, then there’s them actually flying, and this is them falling in the fountain.”
L!MC looked over at the chalk and glared at M!MC. “It’s generous to call that an artist’s rendition. It looks like crap.”
“And what did you draw?” Belphie smirked at the alpaca-giraffe-thing, Luke protectively covered up the drawing (side note, Luke was wearing white and playing with sidewalk chalk, by the end of the day he looked like a walking pride flag).
“None of your business!” Luke huffed.
“And what about that one?” Diavolo seemed completely oblivious to the hostility brewing between the two groups, A!MC was completely used to this and walked away to grab a drink.
“Ah, good eye, Lord Diavolo!” M!MC chirped. “This is a drawing of the time L!MC almost burned down your kitchen.”
Diavolo laughed and gave M!MC a few pats on the head. “Very accurate!”
“You’re so lucky I followed the rules and didn’t bring a water gun...” L!MC growled as they slowly reached for their backpack.
“Yeah... lucky. Real lucky...” M!MC nodded as they tried to casually reach for their bag, Belphie followed suit.
“I’m so glad we all followed the rules.” Luke smiled, his own hand inching towards his bag.
There was a brief moment of stillness before the four of them whipped out their water guns and pointed them at each other.
“This BBQ ain’t big enough for the both of us!” M!MC’s terrible cowboy impression aside, their gun was poised to shoot directly at Luke and L!MC’s alpaca-giraffe-thing.
“Everyone, I know this is a human world tradition but-”
Belphie silenced Diavolo by pointing his water gun at him. “Sh, don’t talk unless you have a water gun as well.”
Deciding not to smite Belphie for treason, Diavolo pulled his own water gun out of his shirt. “Okay, what now?”
“Now, we’re in a standoff...” L!MC glowered at M!MC, the air was practically crackling with hostility...
Until a burst of flames got everyone to whirl around to see A!MC with hairspray and a lighter.
“No water guns! I refuse to go home shivering and covered in grass again!”
Crisis averted. Everyone went to go fail at throwing beanbags into a hole instead of shooting each other.
That was probably for the best... Belphie filled everyone’s water guns with paint.
The Uncle That Does All the Cooking for Family Dinners (Barbatos)
Remember how I said that Barbs liked smol Lucifer? Yea, he likes smol Asmo too. Smol Asmo is willing to admit that they don’t know how to use an oven and is willing to learn.
M!MC is formally banned from being within 50 feet of the kitchen. It’s for the best.
A!MC often tries to get Barbatos to look into the possible futures so they can see if they can avoid messing anything up and A!MC is just so adorable that Barbatos actually thinks about it.
He still says no every single time.
“Could you at least tell me if I have the possibility of doing something embarrassing in the near future?”
“My apologies, A!MC, but no.”
“P-please?”
“The answer remains the same.”
A!MC sighed and went back to helping chop vegetables. Under Barbatos’ tutelage, A!MC’s cooking ability had increased tenfold, they could now make as many burgers as they wanted without worrying about burning down the kitchen.
Pitying the anxious half-demon, Barbatos sighed. “I cannot confirm nor deny a future where your outfit gets ruined.”
A!MC perked up. “H-huh?”
“I cannot confirm nor deny a future where your outfit gets ruined.”
Quickly understanding what Barbatos was trying to do, A!MC quickly nodded and spent the rest of the cooking time carefully taking note of their surroundings.
“Hey! What’re you guys doin’?” M!MC had managed to get in... damn! Everyone must have been putting their best efforts in keeping Solomon away from the kitchen and forgot about M!MC...
“We’re just finishing up, M!MC,” Barbatos had on his ‘oh no...’ smile. “We don’t need any help.”
“Really? You guys sure?”
“Why are you so interested?” A!MC asked.
“Lucifer said that idle hands are the devil’s playthings and that I should go look for something productive to do.” M!MC huffed. “Very ironic phrase.”
“F-fine, I guess you can...” A!MC searched for the least destructive task they could give. “Take the utensils and set the table.”
M!MC gave them a mock salute and grabbed the utensils, as they turned to leave, they knocked a large bowl of chopped fruit over, sending the fruit pieces flying.
Remembering Barbatos’ prediction, A!MC didn’t bother to try and stop the fruit from falling, they only grabbed the nearest big plate they could find and shielded their outfit from harm. The fruit splattered harmlessly against the shield.
“Whoops... my bad. You alright, A!MC?” M!MC asked as A!MC inspected their outfit.
“Y-yes actually...” A!MC turned to Barbatos, who was already getting the cleaning supplies.
“Thank you!” A!MC whispered.
Barbatos smiled and nodded. “You’re very welcome, A!MC.”
Barbatos now has two sorta-children. A!MC and Luke!
M!MC means well, I swear! He just shouldn’t be allowed in a cooking environment!
The Cousin That Your Mom Points at and Goes “Look at Him, He Helps With the Dishes, Be More Like Him.” (Simeon)
Oh man... time for some more embarrassing stories.
“Asmo was the most adorable child, it’s a shame he was such a troublemaker...”
“Really? My dad?”
“What about mine?”
“I think you can guess.”
I cannot comment on Simeon’s help with flying lessons because I refuse to Headcanon what Simeon’s wings look like until canon gives us a GLIMMER. LIKE SERIOUSLY SOLMARE IM CURIOUS-
I have a feeling the children were quite curious as well.
“What do you think his wings look like?” M!MC asked A!MC as the two peered around the corner of one of the hallways in Purgatory Hall.
“I bet they’re super nice. But besides that...” A!MC leaned over and squinted. “Why is Simeon writing with a pen and pencil? He’s writing a book... shouldn’t he use a computer?”
“Bold of you to assume he knows how to use a computer.” M!MC snickered.
A!MC frowned. “Don’t be mean... I’m sure he knows how...”
Simeon picked up his DDD and took a picture of his face, seemingly by accident, with the flash on, causing him to drop the phone in surprise.
“Probably...”
The two surveyed their angel friend like two wildlife documenters, here we see, the Simeon, not in his natural habitat, surrounded by confusing technology...
“Do you think if we scare him his wings might pop out in surprise?” M!MC wondered aloud, A!MC shrugged.
“Maybe... but I don’t think we should bother him...” A!MC whispered. “He looks busy.”
“What are you two doing?”
It took literally every bit of willpower for the two half demons to not scream in absolute terror at the sudden interruption.
Ah... it was just Solomon... in an apron... Solomon... in cooking clothes...
Oh no.
“Spying on Simeon?” Solomon asked.
“N-no...” A!MC giggled nervously. “Just crouching casually in this hallway...”
“...smooth, A!MC.” M!MC rolled their eyes.
“Well, it’s great that you two are here, I made lunch!”
A!MC and M!MC looked at each other in pure horror, they needed to get out of there!
“Uh- um... we’d love to but...” M!MC looked around frantically before just pointing at a random spot behind Solomon. “LOOK! A DISTRACTION!”
A!MC and M!MC ran out of there as fast as their legs could carry them. Finding out if Simeon had wings was not worth being poisoned. Not at all...
Good ol’ Simeon... Mr. Cristopher Peugeot on the other hand- M!MC had some questions for him.
“TSL is literally the most popular book series ever, does that mean you’re completely loaded?”
“Oh, no I’m not, I don’t have any use for human world money in the Celestial Realm. All the profits go to charity.”
“...Dude really?”
“That’s nice of you, Simeon!”
“You didn’t keep any of it..?”
Wait... Who the Hell Are You..? (Solomon)
So A!MC basically has three dads; Fabulous-dad, butler-dad, and wizard-dad!
“So you just... have capes lying around?”
“Yes, would you like a cape?”
“Okay if they don’t take the cape I want it.”
Solomon shows up to RAD with his nails painted different wacky styles every week, courtesy of A!MC.
Though- the unholy combination that is M!MC and Solomon is feared by all.
“Road work ahead?”
“Uh, yeah I sure hope it does.”
Solomon and M!MC’s rampant quoting of vines elicited another glare from Lucifer.
Despite Solomon having literally been alive since the seven rulers of hell were angels, he had kept up with pop culture fairly decently. Decently enough that M!MC had someone that wasn’t Levi to bounce memes off.
“Pff...” M!MC suppressed a laugh at a seemingly normal water bottle advertisement. “Enslaved moisture.”
“I’m not going crazy, right Simeon? You’re hearing this too?” Lucifer tiredly turned to the angel, who shook his head.
“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Solomon quacked at M!MC earlier and they lost their minds laughing about it.” Simeon shrugged, unbothered by the sorcerer and the half demon’s rampant meme-ing behind them.
Lucifer on the other hand, was quite bothered. Incredibly bothered, if you will. “If you two don’t shut up right now I’m going to-”
“Quick! We must abscond!” Solomon turned and heelied away, followed by M!MC. The shoes that Mammon bought to replace the ones lost during the casino incident were apparently heelies as well...
The day was saved when a rock jammed one of Solomon’s wheels and he slammed face first into the concrete. Yikes... that had to hurt.
A!MC had fun glow in the dark bandaids for Solomon to patch up his face. Even though he he could heal himself with magic, he let A!MC do what they wanted because they were just too adorable to say no to.
Asmo has pictures
The Cousin Squad (tm)
(Luke, L!MC, A!MC, and M!MC)
Ah yes, the bab squad. The most adorable group in the Devildom. Surrender your candy immediately or face destruction.
M!MC teases the crap out of Luke, and A!MC tries to stop it, but L!MC is the one who manages to actually make M!MC stop.
Only L!MC gets to pick on the smol angel. GOT IT?!
A!MC and Luke are already baking buddies because of butler-dad so they get along swimmingly.
Poor Luke’s the victim of many of M!MC’s shenanigans.
Luke: Are you sure this is safe, M!MC?
M!MC (about to put mentos into the bottle of coke Luke is holding): No.
L!MC and A!MC get along really well, being honest, everyone loves A!MC.
A!MC makes sure L!MC gets some sleep because they don’t want their cousin picking up on Lucifer’s habit of living off of coffee and coffee alone. L!MC doesn’t get it but they’re very grateful anyway.
M!MC and A!MC were friends from the start. Well... M!MC decided they were friends right from the start and A!MC did not have the ability to fight the power of friendship.
M!MC: You are being befriended. Please do not resist.
Since M!MC is great and amazing like their pop, they took it upon themselves to be the friend that speaks up when A!MC is too nervous to do so.
M!MC and L!MC? Lucifer and Mammon 2 electric boogaloo. Sorta.
L!MC and M!MC bicker all the time but the babs bounce back from their fights way easier.
One minute they’re at each other’s throats and the next they’re showing each other memes.
“There’s no escaping this.”
Lucifer stood between M!MC and the door... their one way ticket to freedom...
“You need to go to the dentist.”
The entire HOL plus the Purgatory Hall crew were getting ready to go visit the dentist to get their teeth cleaned. It was the time of the year that Mammon dreaded most... and his child felt the same way.
“My teeth are fine! Lemme stay home! I’ll hold down the fort with dad!” M!MC smiled and nodded as enthusiastically as they could, but even the most unobservant person couldn’t miss the sweat beading on their forehead.
“Beel.” Lucifer snapped his fingers and before M!MC could do anything Beel had thrown them over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.
“Don’t worry M!MC, the dentist isn’t that scary.” Beel tried to assure them. By the way M!MC was still kicking and screaming, they were not convinced.
“Y-yeah kiddo, suck it up! Don’t be a baby! I’m just gonna take my car there-”
“MAAAAAAMOOOON?!”
“YIKES!”
Lucifer had the important task of keeping a hold of Mammon as the very large group made their way to the dentist’s office.
A devious little idea popped into L!MC’s head as they all sat down in the waiting room. They began to hum a familiar little tune.
“She said be a deeeentiiiist~ a dentist!” L!MC sang to M!MC, who’s attempts to escape increased tenfold after hearing the song.
A!MC began to hum along, not seeming to notice the commotion going on next to them.
“Son be a deeentiiiiiist~ people will pay you for causing them PAIN! She said be a deeentiiiiiist~”
Belphie perked up and smiled deviously as he realized what L!MC was doing, he began to sing along as well. The three were a veritable choir of terror to poor M!MC. Mammon did not understand his child’s terror and was more unnerved by what a great team Belphie and L!MC made.
Satan rolled his eyes and tried to focus on his book, Asmo was absorbed in his magazine, Levi was having a very in depth conversation with the fish in the aquarium, Simeon and Solomon chatted about school, and Luke was stuck watching the train wreck go down.
Thankfully, it was halted by Lucifer. “L!MC, A!MC, Belphegor, stop tormenting M!MC with show tunes.”
“You would have made a good dentist in another life, Lucifer,” Belphie cooed. “You know what they say, the only difference between a dentist and a sadist is that one has newer magazines.”
Asmo grimaced at his magazine. “Is it the sadist? Because I’m reading a magazine from 1843...”
The conversation was interrupted by one of the dental hygienists coming into the waiting room and saying that Mammon was up first. The Avatar of Greed’s final escape attempt was foiled by Satan (not even looking up from his book) clotheslining him.
Thirty minutes later, Mammon emerged from the forbidden dentist room, with the look of trauma in his eyes and eating a lollipop.
One by one, the group went in, A!MC took it upon themselves to try and make the rapidly panicking Luke feel better.
“It won’t be too scary, in the human world dentists are usually very nice.” A!MC smiled encouragingly.
“I-I’m sure that’s true but...” Luke looked around. “We aren’t in the human world...”
Asmo skipped back in and flashed a blinding grin to the group. “Absolutely perfect, no flaws! It’s your turn, A!MC!”
“If you die I get to say I told ya so!” M!MC shouted as A!MC walked into the dentist’s room.
They did not in fact, die because of the dentist. A!MC walked out and gave a thumbs up. “The dentist said they had never seen a kid with such perfect teeth.”
“That’s my baby!” Asmo chirped.
“M!MC, you’re up.” A!MC and Beel had to practically drag the poor kid out of the room and into the dentist area of doom.
“GO BE A DEEEEEENTIIIIIIST!” Belphie and L!MC shouted one last time as the doors shut. Wow, what dickheads...
Mammon probably would have tried to save his poor little bugger, but he was in the middle an impromptu therapy session with Simeon over the scary scraping dentist knife thingie.
Beel was the last to go, and he walked out of the dentist’s room with his face covered in blood, the dentist walked out after him, missing a hand.
“You tasted like toothpaste.” Beel sighed. “Not good.”
“Don’t worry,” The dentist said to Luke, who looked like he was about to pass out. “My hand will grow back in about four to five minutes.”
Luke, still terrified, nodded. L!MC patted him on the shoulder.
“Anyway, almost all of you are fine, but I have to recommend M!MC to the orthodontist.” The dentist flipped through their notepad one-handed. “Their secondary set of fangs are coming out crooked and need to be corrected with braces immediately.”
M!MC sat calmly for a moment, then attempted to sprint out the door. “NO NO NO NO NO!” One of the dental hygienists grabbed them by the back of their shirt and halted their escape.
“Sucks to be you.” L!MC smirked.
“And L!MC needs to fix their cross bite, braces are a strong possibility.”
The colour drained from L!MC’s face as the news dawned upon them. “Pardon, but what exactly are you talking about..?”
“Your top jaw and bottom jaw aren’t properly lined up.” The dentist explained. “It will lead to problems later if it’s not fixed now.”
Lucifer rubbed his temples and sighed. “L!MC, if you try and run away I swear...”
L!MC stiffened and shook their head. “I’m not some coward, I’m not running away. Just... what exactly are you going to do to my mouth?”
The dentist pulled up a few pictures of the braces and explained what would be done. L!MC nodded, and turned to their father with a big smile on their face.
“It won’t be so bad, mind if I go to the bathroom before I get the mold for my teeth made?”
Lucifer nodded and almost audibly sighed in relief. He basked in the glory of having a child that wasn’t afraid of the dentist and faced their fears like an adult-
L!MC sprinted past the dentist’s office, they had busted out of the bathroom window.
“...Beel.”
“Yep.”
A few minutes later, Beel returned with a completely irate L!MC who was screaming their demands to be put down and be allowed to run for the hills. Taking advantage of the distraction, M!MC ran for the door again, only for Belphie to tap them on the forehead.
M!MC collapsed into a snoring heap on the floor.
“FATHER! DON’T MAKE ME DO THIS!” L!MC practically screamed as they tried to wrestle themselves out of Beel’s bear hug.
Lucifer rolled his eyes. “L!MC, calm yourself down. It’s just braces.”
“AS EVERYONE HERE AS MY WITNESSES I’LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS! NEVER!”
The half-demons in need of braces were dragged right back into the dentist’s area... poor fools.
“They’ll be okay... right?” Luke asked.
“Of course they will be. It’s just braces.” Simeon patted Luke on the head. “They’ll both be fine.”
The scream that came from down the hall right after Simeon said that did not reassure anyone.
“Hey,” Mammon piped up. “How much do braces cost?”
“From what I know about dental procedures,” Satan rubbed his chin. “A few thousand Grimm.”
“Mammon if you try and run for that door I will cut your credit card into a thousand pieces.” Lucifer growled.
Overall, it was a fairly average trip to the dentist. 0/10 would not recommend. A few weeks later L!MC and M!MC were fitted with their mouth prisons- I mean braces, and the two cousins bonded over their horrific mouth pain...
Seriously- braces suck.
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So! Those are the headcanons! Four and a half whole parts... phew... To all the people who enjoyed this series, thank you so so much for reading! You guys have been so super nice!
Fret not, I plan on writing more for this universe! From what I know about season 2 of Obey Me things will get... interesting. Stay tuned for more! Or don’t, I can’t force you.
...or can I?
#Obey me#Obey me!#Obey me Headcanons#obey me shall we date#obey me! headcanons#obey me! shall we date?#Obey me Lucifer#Obey me Diavolo#Obey me Simeon#Obey me Solomon#Obey me Mammon#Obey me MC#obey me beelzebub#obey me belphegor#Obey me Luke#Obey me Barbatos#Obey me Asmodeus#Obey me Fic#Lucifer’s Kid
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” @shummashum: I'm not sure but Hiro seems to have some kind of self loathing tendency? 😮”
//you know what, let’s talk about this! i’m back on a hiro loving crusade and i’m not about to stop here!
to say that he has a self loathing tendency isn’t exactly untrue, but i believe it’s a little off the mark. i wouldn’t say it’s loathing, but more of a lack of self-confidence.
now, there are things that hiro is certainly confident in: his skills as a swordsman, and that he’s the only one who can protect zeus (he says the latter in this same spin off, btw). you could also say that he’s very confident in his ability to love and care about what he DOES love and care about, if that makes sense.
now, in order to get to the core of where all this lack of self-confidence comes from, we have to think about how hiro grew up: as a retainer in the brundle household with a strict father who always reminded hiro of his status as a retainer. now, while is has been said that zeus and hiro were “raised like brothers”, hiro openly states in his route that while that is true (because of zeus and zeus’ father’s attitude towards hiro), he was raised to protect zeus. pack that in with the huge amount of magical power that zeus possesses, plus the fact that zeus is popular and canonically very attractive, and you have a big ‘ol recipe for an inferiority complex, even if hiro doesn’t fully realize it. there’s a lot that we can gather just by how zeus and hiro talk about each other, and it’s one of the things that i think solmare does almost consistently well. there’s always a reserved tone that hiro has when he talks about their relationship, but i think that’s another post entirely. one of these days i’ll talk more about it. one of these days, BUT I DIGRESS.
as a result of all that, hiro genuinely doesn’t think that he is an equal to those around him. this is prominent in his birthday spin-off (above), his own route, and even in the mr. gedonelune 2 event story. in his happy end, he says that he “was happy just being zeus’ assisstant, but [he] was left out of the loop when it came to prefect stuff.” while that inspired him to want to become a prefect himself, he initially throws in the towel during his route because he takes the defeatist mindset and thinks that his dream is impossible (this is obviously solved in his happy end where he does end up being a prefect). however, it’s that lack of confidence in himself that leads to this sort of depressive spiral. not only that, but it’s apparent in the aforementioned mr. gedonelune 2 story that he doesn’t take praise very well, and it easily embarrasses him. when liz is praising his looks and how competent he actually is, hiro asks her to stop and even covers her mouth at some point out of embarrassment, stating that “[liz] is the only person who thinks all that”. liz of course thinks he’s just being modest, but i think there’s a lot of other context clues through this and his own route that leads me to believe that he might have not been him being modest. it’s also good to note that hiro does get embarrassed when zeus straight up tells him that they are equals, pretty much like hiro has never heard it before or even considered it before zeus said it out loud for hiro to hear.
hiro does have a lot of negative tendencies towards himself, that much is apparent. i don’t think it stems from him hating himself, but more so thinking that he’s not an equal or on the same level as the others. he’s not good with his emotions in the first place, which we see in his route and this spin-off as well [side note: i love the sincerity of “i don’t know how to respond to this”. it’s very in-character for him given everything else we see of him and it’s so genuine and good and AUUUGGHHHHHH--]. the way he reacts so subtly to a lot of things as if taking a back seat, how he can be awkward when put on the spot (this is shown also in his happy end when he is asked for a speech after passing his prefect trials), and how he reacts to praise are subtle details, but very strong indicators about what sets hiro apart from the other “cool silent type” characters. there’s also been a few times where hiro has had “gap moe” moments (that others have noticed as well) that also sets him apart in this way as well, like when he becomes ecstatic upon learning he passed his prefect trials. it’s cute imo.
hiro is... complicated. and i like that.
tl;dr i don’t think hiro hates himself, i just don’t think he was raised to believe that he has worth outside of being zeus’ vassal, and it’s hard for him to think otherwise until it’s spelled out for him.
//hey remember when solmare gave hiro literally one of the best spin-offs in all of wizardess heart? and how it was super insightful to how hiro actually thinks and feels? and how it was so genuinely sweet and emotional and it's all in a fucking SPIN-OFF of all things?? i'm never allowed to forget.
#not mcl#wizardess heart#mia plays wizardess heart#YES i AM going to over analyze this game and i AM going to enjoy myself while doing it#*bangs pots and pans* SOMETIMES THIS DUMB WIZARD DATING GAME CAN BE EXCELLENT#hiro is such a special boy and i am going to be so normal about him#every boy in wh is special but hiro is especially special to me <3 my dumb birthday twin <3#there is sooooo much i could say about other things regarding hiro (especially about his relationship with zeus)#(BECAUSE I'M SO NORMAL ABOUT THEM)#but this is a specific topic that i think really sets hiro apart from the cast#especially because he is one of the VERY FEW characters that actually have a pre-established relationship with another character#upon introduction that is#it's one of the things that i appreciated about the night class upon revealing#i hated when they shoehorned leslie into being a somehow very popular character lol#remember when guy said that he and leslie are like brothers and then they didn't do anything with it? lol. lmao even.#anyways thank you for letting me rant on this topic i know you said you don't have a lot of experience with the night class boys#but i think they are worth the love. if you're like me and love idiots they are incredibly charming.#i love my day class boys with my whole heart but the night class boys stole it#lucious' route made me cry for real. so did hiro's birthday spin-off. so i think like. maybe that's why i'm attached to them. LMAO
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hey, i just read your Be Not Afraid fic and i juat wanted to comment that it was MIND BLOWINGLY good. i know i'm going to be thinking about it for a while to come - especially Beel's part, i'd never considered the relationship between 'gluttony' and 'survival', i find that such an interesting parallel. i've always kinda considered the demons to be above that base level of survival bc they're immortal, so i hc they don't really need food/water/shelter/any other basic physical human need... so looking at gluttony in that manner - taking from others to ensure your continued success - adds a whole new layer to the ethical onion. idk if i can even consider that to be a sin if we are looking at it through a human's eyes. it's different for the OM demons, because presumably they have a choice, but how can humans continue to survive if we don't overindulge a little? i mean, practically everything we do is an exchange of something for something else. anyways it's a fun thing to think about when i'm bored. thank you for taking the time to write such intricately well thought out fanfics, i always enjoy your writings and this one was really incredible :)
!!!!!!! I’m really glad you enjoyed it!!!! Thank you so much for your kind words!!! 💛
I’m super happy that you enjoy my interpretation of Beel/gluttony!! I always found it a little bit shallow to just be satisfied with ‘man eats a ton and that’s his Bit’, especially when the “biblical” understanding of gluttony is not just ‘overeating’. It’s also under eating, being unnecessarily picky in circumstances where it can’t be afforded, and the ‘taking away from others their needs for survival’. When then applying that to a demon, with very different biological needs, you kind of have to do some reframing. I definitely also feel like things like sleeping/eating are an indulgence for them, rather than a need, so it definitely makes applying this logic to Beel and Belphie really interesting.
Basically, solmare gave me these characters but I’m pushing them to their limits because canon refuses to do it.
#thank you anon!!!!#I was scared no one was gonna really get where I was going with Beel#I’m glad you liked it!!!#i talk to a real human
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Rant // mild Obey Me! spoilers ahead for those who are behind on lessons.
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I love this game so I really hate to say it, but we desperately need some flavor. At the very least, I wish they’d do something interesting with the pop quizzes and call it non-canon? Give us fun AUs to work with. I’m on the third scene of the current pop quiz and it feels so mundane and fillery. I came here to fuck demon boys, not everyday college students. Hell, even college boys have more going for them than these boys atm lmao. They’re in a constant limbo where nothing of substance occurs.
It feels like we’re in some Disney wizard school now. The narrative is flat and the boys are one-note shells of their former selves. Everything is fluff and vanilla 24/7. It doesn’t feel like a game about demons and angels anymore. While I’d love to be wrong, it seems they’re afraid of featuring taboo or morally questionable content now in fear of backlash. I had a conversation with another player that’s been around long like myself (since launch) the other day and they shared the same thoughts I did.
As they said, after the good night pop quiz and Mammon devilgram situation, Solmare/SWD probably wants to avoid certain content now. This comes at a major cost because this stunts the growth and overall potential of the boys. They’re demons, they literally exist as avatars of sin. You can’t avoid dark subjects that might make people uncomfortable and portray compelling demon characters. Some kids on Twitter that don’t even spend money on the game are not the demographic they should be worried about satisfying if they want to stay afloat.
Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say the current tone is intentional because of the peace between realms goal, this plot still doesn’t visibly progress. Every few lesson they introduce a new unsubstantial gimmick or gag that doesn’t advance the story, rinse and repeat. There is literally nothing that makes it feel like there is pushback on Diavolo’s dream of achieving peace. If there are forces standing against him and the boys, SHOW that.
Hell, let’s say they do push aside the realms and demon stuff for whatever reason. We can still have the characters interact in substantial ways? They’ve fumbled so many good opportunities that ended up amounting to nothing. The Lucifer vs. Diavolo thing could’ve been a phenomenal arc and they threw it aside like it never happened by the next lesson. That single handedly could’ve started so many possible storylines and it went nowhere. Ridiculous. And yes I will complain about that particular situation forever.
Anyway, idk. It feels like they’re letting the characters and setting waste away. I want better for them and know they can do better. I’m really hoping they get it together for the next season and spice things up with the introduction of the alluded new character(s). They can’t keep people around with pretty art forever. Something has to change and hopefully soon.
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Obey Me! and Angelology and Demonology
alternatively titled Lets Get Into Lucifer
This is yet another long, long post about the lore of Obey Me! from the perspective of historical and theological angelology, and demonology or the study of angels and demons respectively, because I think it’s neat. I also talk way too much. I’m scared to check the word count on this.
Disclaimer: I am not an expert on anything, and certainly not on religion. I just like comparative theology. Also, spoilers for lesson 43/44.
What is an angel? And what, in turn, is a demon? It depends on who you ask. All religions that have angels have a general consensus that they are spiritual beings, intermediaries of some kind of higher power. Demons, on the other hand, are much more vague beyond general malevolence toward humanity. Any connection between the two is entirely dependent on the culture and religion in question. Some have angels but not demons, and many have vice versa.
There’s generally four kinds of spirits that are considered demons:
Dead people with extremely bad vibes (think mogwai, yuurei, and other revenants)
Neutral-to-malevolent energy, physical form optional (think djinni or yokai)
Cult subjects (including foreign gods and ancestor worship)
Corrupted angels (either fallen or Nephilim)
The word demon comes from the Greek δαίμ��ν, or daimon, but the concept of a demon is much older than the Greeks. The original daimon had none of the malevolent, evil associations that we now think of. Instead, daimon just described a kind of powerful spiritual entity (for example, δαίμων is the term Euripides uses for the new god Dionysus in The Bacchae). What we think of as demons now didn’t exist in Greek culture, and the negative associations came when the Tanakh was translated from Hebrew to Greek, but even then shedim aren’t identical to the contemporary depiction of demons that we see in Obey Me!, which, like everything else in Western society, came about through the domination of Christianity.
Shedim, the precursor to the Christian demon, was more or less a term for false gods, a title for the various Levantine pagan gods (see: origin of Beelzebub, Belphegor, and pretty much every demon that starts with Bel- or Bal-).
Obey Me! pretty much canonizes Type 2 and Type 4 demons, with characters like Diavolo, Barbatos, and Satan as Type 2 and the other brothers as Type 4. Historically, Beelzebub and Belphegor are Type 3 (Beelzebub and Belphegor being Levantine gods), Mammon being Type 2 (a general personification of Wealth, although Milton did write him as a Type 4 in Paradise Lost) and Asmodeus being somewhere in between Type 2 and 3 (being heavily derived from a Zoroastrian daeva of wrath). Lucifer is, historically, the only consistently Type 4 demon.
I don’t think I have to explain what a fallen angel is to any OM! fan. But I will.
Let’s talk about these guys. We’re all familiar with Satan’s weird complex about Lucifer, and I’m sure we’re all equally familiar with how Satan and Lucifer are terms used interchangeably for whatever being is The Big Bad of Hell. However, they’re not synonymous.
Satan derives from the same Proto-Semitic root as shayatan, which... should be pretty obvious, but nonetheless has a pretty analogous role as a tempter of men in the Abrahamic religions. Beyond that “tempter of men” title, though, the actual details of what Satan is is incredibly varied, including whether or not “Satan” is a name or a title. In Christianity, the view of Satan as an extremely powerful and evil corrupter of man, wholly opposed to God, came around the Middle Ages, when witchcraft hysteria spread.
Lucifer, on the other hand, is simultaneously a figure originating in Christianity and much, much older than it. The term of course means “light-bringer”, and is heavily associated with the morning star, aka the planet Venus. To make a very long story short, many Mesopotamian, Levantine, and Mediterranean cultures saw the lowering of Venus toward the horizon at night and thought, “hey, thats a pretty neat image!” and created stories about heavenly beings falling toward the earth. Of course, they didn’t use the ‘term’ Lucifer, that’s Latin, and came from the Vulgate Bible.
The term Lucifer does not exclusively refer to The Evil Fallen Angel™ in Christian texts (some very sacred things like the Exsultet explicitly refer to Jesus as Lucifer), but it sure is the most popular interpretation. In works like Paradise Lost or the Divine Comedy, the general idea is that the angel Lucifer rebelled against God in some way and was cast out of Heaven, then becoming Satan, and thus the two are one and the same.
(inb4 some Quora-type chews me out for accuracy’s sake, the “lucifer” mentioned in Isaiah 14:12 refers not to any angel, but to a Babylonian king. The whole fallen angel thing, much like the beatitudes or Bethlehem or Christmas, is a fusion of pagan influences.)
In other words, Lucifer is always and has always been a fallen angel. Satan, on the other hand, doesn’t have those connections to angelhood, and the two figures have an undeniable connection despite their clear individual differences. Sound familiar?
The next question is then what kind of angel is Lucifer anyway? to which you might be thinking, wait, there are different kinds? Yes, holy shit, there are so many kinds of angels and very little consensus on what they are. In terms of Christian angelology (because again, Lucifer is a uniquely Christian/derivative Christian figure unless you exclude Leland’s Aradia which I don’t because lbr they were Italian anyways), most hierarchies are based on the work of this guy:
This man has the incredibly succinct name of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, and sometime in the 5th century he wrote a book called De Coelesti Hierarchia. It orders the *WTNV voice* hierarchy of angels into three levels called spheres, and each sphere has three sub-levels called choirs. Many, but not all, of the choirs are adopted from various Jewish angelic hierarchies. If you thought that it was just angels and then archangels were, like, the middle management version of angels then you are very wrong. I’m sorry that television lied.
You know who also lied? Tumblr dot com and any post that implies that the true form of angels is a big wheel with a bunch of eyes. That is, in fact, a descriptor for only one kind of angel: ophanim, or thrones. The depiction of angels runs the gamut from winged humanoids to multi-winged humanoids with multiple animal heads to burning snakes to vague heavenly mist.
Archangels and angels are the eighth and ninth lowest choirs of angels, respectively. Angels, or malakhim, are the default messengers of God and the choir from which guardian angels come from. Generally, if someone claims to have a message from God delivered to them, it will be an angel doing it. If it’s really important, it’ll be an archangel. Everyone else literally has more important things to do. No one’s getting visions from dominions.
Lucifer’s (the theological one) actual designation is kind of a mystery. Depending on the text, Lucifer has been described as a seraph (the highest), a cherub (the second highest), or an archangel (the eighth). According to Thomas Aquinas:
Lucifer, chief of the sinning angels, was probably the highest of all the angels. But there are some who think that Lucifer was highest only among the rebel angels.
Not very helpful, but hey. The question remains: what kind of angel is Lucifer, and this time I mean our Lucifer.
We know that Michael, just like his namesake, is an archangel. We also know that (SPOILERS) Simeon, unlike his namesake, is an archangel as well (Simeon is a saint, not an angel.) Lucifer likely was at their level, if not higher.
However, Lucifer was also a six-winged angel, a depiction generally reserved for seraphim (and cherubim, but far less frequently).
Moreover, in terms of role, an angellic Lucifer fits well with that of the powers, the sixth choir. Powers are in charge of moving the heavenly bodies, and are depicted as powerful warriors dressed in beautiful armor. It's fitting for a being so closely tied to the morning star to be a power, after all.
So, with all that considered, what is Lucifer?
Well, he’s a seraph (or saraph, technically). Why? Because Simeon is somehow a seraph and an archangel (I have already written too much to unpack that bullshit), and Mammon was a throne (remember those wheels with eyes?) and Beel was a cherub and therefore Lucifer had to be higher than both of them (interestingly big brother Mammon is in a lower choir than little brother Beel). This makes Michael kind of, well... weird, given the archangels’ low rank.
Some like to differentiate between archangel the eighth choir and Archangel, with a capital A, as a term for any high-ranking angel. While this is likely what Solmare is doing, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that this has zero basis in any religious text whatsoever and is solely done for the convenience of not remembering anything besides angel and archangel. Which is like, fine, but I’m a pedantic jerk who I found claims to the contrary while researching and I felt the need to correct that.
Anyways, the more you know.
#obey me#obey me shall we date#obey me theories#obey me demonology#obey me angelology#obey me lucifer#my theories#YEEHAW that was a lot. my god#anyways besties dont let this flop
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