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To me the non-op trans experience is. Designing a bg3 player character with the opposite sex characteristics than you were born with and then feeling guilty the whole time
#me afab enby creating an amab enby and describing their gender literally exactly the same as I feel mine: this is fetishising and I'm evil#but tbh I feel shit playing as a girl too lol. the trans experience is feeling guilt no matter what your fantasy self-insert looks like#but I also play with boy bod in like every game. maybe after living my whole life with girl bits I want a lil escapism okay#my terraria and stardew avatars are just like 8 pixels but they are 8 boy pixels to me.#is this trans. is this binary trans behaviour#I dont think I really want boy face I just sometimes want to be taller and also not like. inherently objectified all the time by everyone#how much of being afab is actual transness and how much is just being fed up with misogyny. age old question never been solved#this post has gotten off track I'm not tagging it. for the 2 people who actually interact w my posts
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sorry for discoursing but
#in 2016 i was more hurt by baeddelists online collectively throwing me under the bus because i had a “tme” non-binary partner at the time#than i have ever been by a “tme” person in my entire life#so people taking that punkitt post in the most bad faith way possible are getting unfollowed sory c:#yes transmisogyny is real but “irrational hatred of men” does not include valid critique of transmisogyny or wanting transfem spaces#the way people throw a fellow trans woman under the bus and mass report any dissenting account into oblivion is terf behaviour
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aigis is so gay that even when you romance her as a dude it still somehow feels gay
#like.#finding new and revolutionary ways to bone via back of neck micro chip touching is just homosexual behaviour i don't know what to tell you#but thats just the power of being an autistic non binary trans allegory robot it's always gay#persona 3#aigis
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the way i like something tagged feminism and immediately get a bunch of terf posts recommended to me it's fucking infuriating FUCK ALL TERFS FUCK GENDER ESSENTIALISM. if you're a terf you are NOT a feminist- you stand for fucking fascism.
#like fuck off we've all been traumatised by men and that has NOTHING to do with trans women#like it's wild to me to see feminist media from the 70s examine gender and sexuality in such meaningful ways outside of the gender binary#when there are people who call themselves feminists nowadays clinging to gender essentialism like a life line#what was it all for?#i feel like the goal should have been moving towards a society free from shackles of gender#yet things feel like they've only gotten more rigid#especially with the rise of conservatism globally#not to say there hasn't been progress for certain countries but change on paper doesnt equate to change in reality#it's not so easy to undo generations of learned behaviour#we still really really really need to though#anyway i need to go read some feminist literature and make my brain bigger so i can talk about these things more poignantly
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i think umm i think that prev (nyancrimew) post is pretty cool and im not going to say smth annoying in her tags but it reminded me of something related to the subject re: perception of trans people / bodies / things perceived as gendered
#so i perceive this split in what i experience as dysphoria that i like to think of as intrinsic vs extrinsic#this isnt a binary split. but its what i think of as an experience that a lot of trans ppl allude to but its rarely talked about directly?#but its the difference between feeling “my body is deviating from what i desire and am comfortable with bc of gender” and#“i am uncomfortable because my body is not conforming enough for THESE PEOPLE to see me as a man/woman etc”#these 2 facets make sense to me because in my experience discormfort obviously lessens when i am around people who see me as nonbinary#regardless of the [anything]#like its the difference between being uncomfortable in your body when you're alone or with close friends who Know you vs#being perceived by cis people who haven't separated the flesh/voice/behaviour from the gender
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Anyway. I would just like to get through one (1) casual conversation with a parent without them saying Weird Gender Shit to me
#cant wait til im more visibly trans so they just dont fucking talk to me#all kids get dirty. all kids have energy.#all kids have quiet moments!#kids of all genders have the potential to be quiet or boisterous or timid or thoughtful or affectionate or any number of things#ask yourself what you are saying and doing with your sons that encourages ‘boyish’ behaviour#ask yourself what you are saying and doing with your girls to encourage ‘girlish’ behaviour#and stop fucking saying this weird shit to me#I am literally standing here in a pride shirt looking like a faggot#stop it#the one thing I regret about being trans is I can no longer point to my sister and me as an example of kids who were the same gender#but were VERY different#I was a lot more exuberant energetic and clumsy#aneki has always been more reserved and graceful#we have a lot of similarities and overlaps but there are also a lot of binaries that people slap gender on to#that we divide over
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The aspec community REALLY needs to add intersecting identities to these analysis' instead of making general statements. How helpful is 'ace women are seen as pure because everyone thinks all women are asexual' when we look at the sexualisation of Black women and the Jezebel, the idea Black girls are 'fast' and the general sexualisation of women of colour e.g. spicy latina trope? Are we factoring in how the desexualization of women of colour e.g. the Mammy, the 'submissive' East Asian women trope, the virginity myth isn't acceptance of female asexuality? Does 'ace men are expected to be more sexual' factor in the sexualisation of Black men and other men of colour e.g. 'savage' Arab trope and the antiblack trope that they're inherently predatory? Or the desexualisation of East Asian men? How easily can we define the ace men v ace women experience at all if trans and non-binary aces are missing from most ace representation despite facing the brunt of anti ace discrimination? If we're solely defining these experiences by cis aces? How easily can aroallos 'just have sex' when you factor in the demonisation of gay sex, HIV/AIDS crisis and seraphobia and how this affects gay, lesbian, bi and pan aros? How easily can alloaces 'just partner up' when you factor in the ban of gay marriage that is still in many countries across the globe and the historical policing of 'homosexual behaviours' and this impacts gay, lesbian, bi and pan aces? And this isn't even getting into disability, religion etc. yet. When there's SO many factors that play into how an individual participates in sex and romance, or if they're even allowed to participate at all, how much can we clearly cut the aspec experience into alloace v aroace v aroallo. Or sex favourable v sex indifferent v sex repulsed. There's A LOT we can learn from each other.
#also why i'll never support the idea of 'aspec separatism' from the rest of the lgbt community or within the aspec community itself#a lot of these experiences and oppressions overlap whether you wanna admit it or not#ace tings#asexuality#aspec community#alloace#aroallo#aroace#asexual#aromantic#aspec#asexual community#aromantic community
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I come on this platform mostly to just have silly fun, but seeing queer, and especially trans infighting on my dash is so frustrating.
Friendly reminder that if you don't support all queer identities you can fuck off. Building a community requires supporting eachother, but don't think I will keep people in my community who care only about kicking down others, that's crab bucket behaviour.
Support transmascs. support transfems. support intersex people. support non-binary identities. support trans men. support trans women. support bi people. support pan people. Support Ace people. Support Aro people. support lesbians. support gay men. Especially fucking support black queer people. Especially fucking support indigenous queer people. Especially fucking support asian queer people. Especially fucking support SWANA queer people. Especially fucking support Jewish queer people. And any intersections of the above, and likely the many I've missed.
No one else's identity is lesser just because it is different,
#Kind of a vent post#probably shouldn't post like this tbh#cuz it might invite bad faith actors tbh#But I'm so damn tired about people pretending transandrophobia doesn't exist#speaking as a transfem myself#I don't care about what the specific term is or how “clunky” it sounds#Transmascs have a right to discuss their own oppression#just as us Transfems do#And a proper queer community sees us support eachother#Transfems that do not make space for transmascs in their life are not my allies#Same goes for any other queer identity#Some INDIVIDUALS are truly shitty and are not part of my community true#but we don't abandon those in our community for speaking up for themselves#Transandrophobia#transmisoginy#To be clear I am upset with people bashing transmascs and blocking those on sight#transmascs venting/talking about their oppression or the harrassment they face are not doing anything wrong#Wether they receive said harrassment from transfems or not. does not matter#Also anyone trying to argue “those don't count as queer though” about any group of queer people is a ghoul and not an ally
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The Qunari and how DATV handled Taash's character arc
Taash's character arc has been controversial for several reasons and while the grifters and rage tourists are bothered by their non-binary identity it is in fact not the problem.
The real problem in my opinion is rather the immature way in which this was handeled and the entirety of qunari culture along with it.
Because what I came to realize at a certain point is that Taash's character arc is about identity in a broader sense. Not just in regards to gender but also to culture.
While the gender aspect is handeld immaturely the cultural aspect is not really handled at all.
Let me elaborate:
I have already explained in a previous post how DATV sets up Taash's gender identity as a conflict with their mother while there is actually none.
The game desperately wants the player to believe that Taash being non-binary is a sore subject between them and Shathann but does not actually show it.
Instead we get Taash lashing out at their mother when she was simply asking questions. That kind of behaviour only served to paint Taash as a bratty teenager á la 'It's not a phase, mom-uh'.
Not only did this portrayal not achieve its intended emotional effect but also reinforced a harmful stereotype about trans and non-binary folk I have heared in the past few years too often: 'They are just confused.' 'They are too lost in emotion and make rash decisions.' 'They are just rebelling against their parents.' You get the gist.
The devs were so concerned with not offending anyone that they became even more problematic in turn.
The Youtuber Slandered Gaming made a, in my opinion, good suggestion on how this particular character arc could have been improved upon. He suggested Taash should have been firm in their non-binary identity. There shouldn't have been a question about it in the first place. Taash would have been subsequently more mature in their approach to the topic and the discussion could have been taken deeper than that coming out scene where we have to pretend Shathann was problematic for asking questions.
Perhaps Taash could have gone no contact because of several interpersonal differences with their mother, the non-binary identity being one of them.
It's why Dorian's character quest felt deeper. He was an adult who was sure of what he wanted. There was no question about him being gay. It was about how his father reacted to the fact and how Tevinter culture and society informed that reaction. It was all so tightly knit together that it was impossible to seperate. Talking about Dorian's sexuality had to involve discussing Tevinter society.
The same was done with Krem despite being a side character you potentially could completely ignore.
Circling back to Taash their character arc pales in comparison because it always remains on that surface level of "So, I'm non-binary. I will be offended if you ask questions and don't understand me right away.'
But the kicker is that the same template was right there. They simply had to fill it out and yet they didn't.
Taash's cultural identity could have been tied so much deeper and much more intrinsicially with their gender identity. Taash, aside from struggling to find their true gender, also struggles to navigate multiple cultures.
They are the child of a qunari who has been raised in Rivain.
Taash's story is not only the expereince of a trans/non-binary kid in a hetero- and binary-normative society, it is also the story of an immigrant kid.
And this is where Bioware missed a golden opportunity to explore what it means to not only be an immigrant kid but also a queer immigrant kid.
Many of us are raised by parents who have had no experience or touching points with queer identity up to the point of us coming out or are not tolerant at all because of rigid gender roles/ideas of morality they have grown up with in their home countries. Many of us do not come out at all to our parents because of that.
Given that Shathann seems to still be very much attached to the belief system of the Qun despite having left the core society this could have been an aspect thoroughly explored. We could have gained a more nuanced and humanized depiction of the Qun instead of having it presented to us via The Butcher or the Dragon King (cringe).
Shathann could have had a very rigid idea of gender and the roles she expected of each. The constant conflict between the more conservative mother and her more flexible child could have been shown very easily and beautifully. Shathann's general perfectionist tendencies would have played very wonderfully into this. It would have made Taash lashing out at her more believable.
And I think many of us immigrant kids could have empathized with and seen ourselves more in Taash, since many of us do know this constant struggle of trying to have a family, maintain a cultural identity while also wanting to be part of the countries we've been born/raised in. Many of us can exactly recall times when the way we wanted to live was in direct opposition to what our parents expected of us. This finds its expression in mundane things like the way we want to dress and, in case of some, extends to big life decisions (expectations of getting married, in regards to education, wether you want kids and a traditional family or not, purity culture in general, etc.).
For Taash it could have been Shathann berating the way they dressed, their very profession, going out and fighting because under the Qun only men fight or expecting them to observe certain traditions and rituals. And ultimately Shathann could have doubled down on her expectation from Taash to finally adhere to one specific gender role while refusing to understand the non-binary thing instead of simply asking questions.
This could have been so beautifully shown and resolved. It would have made the scene where Shathann finally uses the correct pronouns for Taash all the more meaningful. But Bioware adresses none of these things.
Did they really have not one single employee with an immigration background? Couldn't they have done some research? It's not so hard to find first person accounts on the internet or in the real world.
Instead the question of Taash's multiculturalism is adressed in one small quest where Rook has to make the decision for them wether they want to be rivaini or qunari.
Taash has appearantly no idea about what culture they want to practice and do not even entertain the idea of possibly being both.
The character that refuses to be bound by rigid gender roles appearantly draws the line at multiculturalism.
I cannot even begin to explain how this is so problematic on so many levels. It prepetuates this idea that people will always be seperate and if you happen to have a different cultural background you better abandone your parent culture if you want to participate in the culture of the place of your birth/upbringing.
In game it could have been an opportunity for Taash to recontextualize the Qun in a more flexible way. Seeing the positive aspects of the wisdom the belief system does have while questioning problematic parts. It would have brought nuance to the Qun that was previously othered as an orientalist religion in opposition to the Catholicism coded belief system of Andrastianism.
Without exploring these possibilities the Qun remains this strange system that is ultimately worse than anything else and not worth understanding. What semblence of nuance the Qun posessed in the previous three games has been sanded down to nothingness in DATV.
#long post#datv spoilers#datv critical#bioware critical#taash#qunari#shathann#multiculturalism#listen#they left so much potential lying on the floor#and were so tone deaf#i like the non binary representation#but inclusion can be done way better
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In many ways this is sort of a non-issue but I think people might end up talking past each other when it comes to "women and femmes" and similar stupid terms because there are two (maybe more?) completely contradictory ways that people use them.
For some people, women and femmes is about presentation, and people who use the term like this often conceptualise misogyny/sexism/patriarchy as being, at its root, a devaluation of "feminine" things and behaviours, like the colour pink, wearing dresses, make-up, fashion, nursing work, etc.
For other people, women and femmes is about "female experiences" while growing up and navigating society. What counts as a female experience is pretty nebulous but usually it ends up boiling down to birth assignment.
For the first use of the term, trans women and gay men can be part of the group provided they're feminine, but masculine non-binary people or butches, regardless of birth assignment, don't count or are only conditionally included.
For the second usage, trans men can be part of the group if they still find "AFAB" to be an important part of their identity, but trans women are not part of the group, or are only conditionally included.
Both of these are pretty terrible ways to categorise people and understand society, and their use is very revealing about someone's biases about gender, but they're different types of wrongness.
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Trans research and scientific consensus
(2020) - Study of 139,829 students finds that in comparison to other students, transgender identity, especially non-binary identity, is associated more with perpetrating bullying than being bullied. Non-binary identity was most strongly associated with involvement in bullying, followed by [transgender] opposite sex identity and cisgender identity.
(2023) 21 leading experts on pediatric gender medicine from 8 countries wrote a letter to Wall Street Journal expressing disagreement over how gender dysphoria in youth is treated, voicing concerns against things such as the affirmative model and research conducted outside of the US has found hormonal interventions for gender dysphoria to be without reliable evidence. Among these international experts is Dr. Rita Kaltiala, chief psychiatrist at Tampere university gender clinic and author of several peer-reviewed studies on trans medicine and Finland's top authority on pediatric gender care.
(2023) Landmark study from Denmark on 3,800 transgender patients pulled data from hospital records and applications from legal gender changes and discovered 43% of this group had a psychiatric illness compared with 7% of non-trans group, and despite "gender affirming care" and legal gender changes, still had 7.7 the rate of suicide attempts and 3.5 times the rate of suicide deaths. Researchers state this rate is likely even higher due to missing data.
(2016) Study finds association with increased risk of multiple sclerosis for trans women taking estrogen/reducing testosterone levels.
(2023) Metadata study shows, at best, no improvement for patients in gender-affirming care. "The conclusions of the systematic reviews of evidence for adolescents are consistent with long-term adult studies, which failed to show credible improvements in mental health and suggested a pattern of treatment-associated harms. Three recent papers examined the studies that underpin the practice of youth gender transition and found the research to be deeply flawed. Evidence does not support the notion that “affirmative care” of today’s adolescents is net beneficial."
(2011) Long term follow up of 324 transgender people having undergone sex reassignment surgery in Sweden, found that trans women retained male patterned incidents and rates of violence and had a greater significance and rate of rape and sexual violence than cisgender men. The study also found, "Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
(2020) Largest study to date on 641,860 people finds association with autism and "gender diversity", "Gender-diverse people also report, on average, more traits associated with autism, such as sensory difficulties, pattern-recognition skills and lower rates of empathy — or accurately understanding and responding to another person’s emotional state".
(2022) US study examining 10 years of data on 952 people finds large percentages of young adults prescribed hormones for trans identity no longer getting the drugs 4 years later. Discontinuation rate for both sexes combined = 30%. Female discontinuation rate as high as 44%. The standard disinformation pushed is that only 1-2% of people who begin medical transition end up desisting. But these figures show that in this cohort of young adults, the overall rate of discontinuing hormone treatment ranged from a low of 10% to a high of 44% within a space of just 4 years.
Abruzzese et al. 2023 'The Myth of “Reliable Research” in Pediatric Gender Medicine: A critical evaluation of the Dutch Studies—and research that has followed'
More to come.
#trans#transgender research#transgender health#trans health care#gender critical#detrans#desistance#detransition#FTM#MTF#non binary#gender studies#gender identity#LGBTQ#trans identity#gender diverse#autism#gender dysphoria#gender affirming care#gender affirmation#transitioning#protect trans kids#protect trans youth
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How well educated is Yanagi on queer terms, culture & community in general?
I'm sure he's not transphobic but, if like, Wada for example were to abruptly transition would he be affirming of Wada's gender or would he have difficulty adjusting immediately?
I always think about whether or not characters with Yanagi's kind of archetype are trans affirming in general TBH; it's an interesting contrast to have someone with such a binary view on gender be directly challenged by someone who falls outside that immediate binary.
this is a good question and im thinking about it way too hard lmao
yanagi lives in japan where this sort of discussion happens a LOT less so hes definitely not particularly knowledgeable by western standards but he tries. yanagi himself is not exactly ultramasculine in the way he behaves so he doesnt really have a super rigid sense of gender presentation or gendered behaviour
if WADA were to abruptly transition he would be VERY supportive. after all thats more women in the world which is AWESOME he loves that. go women yay. but if it was like tsuno or something he would probably do a small frown. just because now theres more men in the world and thats unfortunate. smh. wheres all the women at am i right
but he would still be very supportive and validating! yanagi is all about making people comfortable
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I hate white people that talk about gender. You criticise them and they hide behind their gender identity and the fact there is a culture war as If other oppression has stopped on their behalf . The most common reason I see them bring up white supremacy and slavery is to talk about their gender identity and you lot pretend that's some cool solidarity moment and not insane narcissistic white behaviour
They love to bring up Black women to project their body insecurities as something that's " always been a part of white supremacy". I've seen them straight-faced claim hairiness and board shoulders is an anti-Black stereotype ( we're literally seen as balded headed and since when ? ) because they're hairy and feel ugly and they see Black womanhood and a dumping group for things that are undesirable. The things I've seen claim are misogynoir...since when ? Why lie ? ' Black women weren't seen as women' has gone from a line to talk about how white people abused Black women because they saw Black people as animals so not men or women, to pretend that there was gender confusion so the whites can centre their gender identity in slavery but misinformation is fine If it makes a white person feel valid
The only context they bring up women of colour is when they want to talk about what's ugly but white people have never brought up non-whites as a benchmark of inhumanity to feel superior, so don't be suspicious of this behaviour. They said gender, colonialism and trans so there's no way they're bringing up racism as a way to position themselves as normal or too transcendent for human labels unlike the Blacks and Browns who simply exist as " not fitting European gender binary"
Let's not even get on how they love pretending misogyny doesn't impact WOC because MOC can be targets of racism #intersectionality apparently. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand how misogyny works
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Boyah
Boyah (plural: Boyat) was subcultural identity of AFAB non-binary,tomboy,demi girl & trans-masculine folks of Persian Gulf. Boyat are asigned female at birth,but express gender atypical behaviour. The origin of this queer subculture is unclear, some boyat claimed that it was started through online forums & groups. [citation needed]
Boyah subculture was more visible in Gulf states (including Kuwait,Oman,Saudi Arabia,UAE,Bahrain). Boyah identity may fall under the modern Transgender and Non-binary umbrella. However some people may considered them as people of forth gender.
Sexuality
Boyat folk's sexuality can be confusing in various cultural contexts. Most of the Boyat had intimate and romantic relationships with cis-girls in their past life, but they do not consider themselves as homosexual.
The term Boyah itself does not mean lesbian in arabic.In later life many Boyat had to pursue a heterosexual marriage & had children.Because marriage is a obligatory in local arabic customs.In addition to this, some boyah were androsexual & interested in boys only.
Culture & Lifestyle
Trans-masculine/tomboys/AFAB non-binary/AFAB genderpunk took the “Boyah” cultural identity in their early adolescence. On the otherhand, some boyat took the male role to challenge societal gender norms and stereotypes in Arabic Gulf States.
In general, a boyah is characterized by no make-up, no feminine expressions, no feminine name,feminine pronouns.In boyah subculture, Boyat community may use a massive masculine watches.Boyat people worn loose-fitting male cloth with a touch of the military, vibrantly coloured dresses,shirts and boyah jeans(which are baggy with big prints all over them). Since the age of internet Arab's boyat community started informal groups,online forums.
Most of the boyat have to lead double lives because gulf states has strict cultural gender roles especially for womxn.Many of them are forced to get married.In general Boyah phenomena is considered a disgrace to an arab family's honour.Additionally atypical gender expression is seems to be indecent and deviant in GCC states.Many boyat face stigma for not adhering with rigid patriarchal gender roles.
After leaving home, many undergo a radical transformation,changing their clothes at school/college or a friend's house.While in transition ,they run no real risk of being caught because,while in public, Emirates women are required to wear the national dress - a long black over-garment called an abaya, which makes it easier to switch roles without drawing attention.
Media
In general, Gulf media portrays queerness in negetive ways. A Boyah named Abeer appeared on the Saudi TV Show “Ya Hala” where he/ze said that he/ze was attracted to women while still at school. He/Ze had a complete love relationship with a classmate for a long time. Another person named Hamood joined a show of Radio Sawa where he/ze explained ze was rebelling against social (gender) norms and his/zee family’s restrictions through this boyah phenomena.
On a national television of UAE, a boyah named Bandar openly spoke about his queer relationship with another girl and expressed the desire to marry her and have children with her through IVF. His statement on Abu Dhabi's national television shocked the whole nation.
Decline of Boyah Culture
In the Persian Gulf region, boyah identity became very controversial since 2007. In 2007, the Kuwaiti parliament amended Article 198 of the country’s penal code so that anyone “imitating the opposite sex in any way” could face up to a year in jail and/or a fine of 1,000 dinars ($3,500). A further problem was that the law made no attempt to define “imitating the opposite sex” So it was basically left to the discretion of the police. Within a couple of weeks at least 14 people had been arrested in Kuwait City & thrown into prison. Boyat made their debut as a public concern in 2008 when Dubai police denounced cross-dressing - its chief, Dahi Khalfan Tamim, called on the Ministry of Social Affairs to find out how widespread the practice is and what causes it.
In 2009, Dubai launched a public campaign under the slogan "Excuse Me, I am a Girl", which cautioned against “masculine” behaviour among AFAB queers & tomboys and aimed to steer them towards "femininity". The impetus for this was a moral panic which swept through several Gulf states at that time, regarding the Boyah phenomena. 2 months after announcing the campaign the police persecuted 40 people (for their gender atypical expression), imprisoned them for 3 years in jail.In addition, trans-masculine/trans males,trans women,gender-queers were also shamed & abused by the UAE's police team.
Public Attitudes
Many conservative patriarchal arab people see a greater danger in the Boyah subcultural practices; they fear it can become permanent and cause great distress for the women and their families.
Psychiatrist Yousef Abou Allaban says, "It can go extreme, where they change their sex and have an operation.'' Saudi journalist Yousef Al-Qafari said in an interview on Radio Sawa that family disintegration and lack of true love have led women to act like a man. Al-Qafari said education was the best way to tackle this phenomenon.He called on the Ministry of Education to take up this role.
Social worker Nadia Naseer said, “Families play an essential role in such cases. Families should monitor their female members, especially when they start acting like men by cutting their hair short, wearing men’s clothing, or refusing to wear women’s accessories”. She also said, when a girl or woman does this,she is looking for attention & sending a message that she is a boyah.
Saudi writer Randa Alsheikh, in one of her columns, said that she attended a social gathering where she saw a group of females who appeared almost completely like men.“I would not be exaggerating if I say I could not tell the difference between them and men,” she wrote.She said that they looked, talked and walked like men & “even worse” some appeared to be in their 40s. We need to quickly address this phenomenon to contain these girls so that they are able to build good families and a healthy society,”
#Boyah#Booyah#Boyat#arabic#GCC#Persian Gulf#queer#trans masculine#genderqueer#gender variance#AFAB#Middle Eastern#queer culture#cultural gender identity
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AITA for "feeding my ex's internalised transphobia" by refusing to date a man as a lesbian? TW for internalised transphobia, mentions of rape and SA
TLDR: i am a lesbian. my teenage partner was sexually abusive to me for a year, mostly through enforced sexist rp scenarios. now, they are out as non-binary and accuse me of misandry and transandrophobia because i once told them i would not date a man regardless of his agab
I (NB20) started dating my ex (NB23) when i was 15. I was always openly a lesbian. When we met a year before we started dating, they identified as a butch. Throughout our relationship they explored their gender identity more, toying with the idea of being vaguely transmasc. I never had a problem with it; i enjoyed being in a butch/femme relationship and honouring their masculinity as much as I could.
For context, I am a very outspoken hardcore feminist; I don't like to generalise and i have a lot of love for the men in my life, but I have also made a couple of "kill all cishet men" jokes at a safe setting, with people who know exactly where I actually stand. I don't hate men, I just don't find them attractive and think they should be raised better. One day, they asked me if i would still be attracted to them if they fully transitioned and started living as a man. I told them I wouldn't; in my head, being butch/masc is extremely different to being a man, and I appreciated their presentation as a part of them being a lesbian (gender expression =/= gender identity, after all). They assured me that this was just a hypothetical question and just them being curious about my boundaries and limits, ended the conversation, and never brought it up again. My ex was very into roleplay during sex, and I was on board with it initially. After a while, however, the scenes they wanted to act out began to get extremely degrading, bordering on abusive, where they were embodying a man in a position of power (something that i was extremely uncomfortable with), while I was a vulnerable woman (usually a sex worker) getting degraded or even raped. Although I was deeply disturbed by some of the things we did, I was a child at the time, they were my first and i wasn't theirs. I wasn't ready to have sex yet and didn't know how to defend myself. Even when I tried to set a boundary, they would press on and claim it was their way of processing trauma, and that I was manipulative for attempting to withhold that from them. Eventually, with the help of a therapist and my family I ended things between us. I dreaded talking to or about them to anyone and mostly kept quiet about it all. Back to the present day, one of my old mutuals found my new account and texted me. They told me that my ex was posting about me, and that I should be ashamed of myself if what they said was true. I gathered up enough courage to view the posts myself. Their story is very different from what I remember. They claim I was being a misandrist and by extension transandriphobic (in their words, my distaste for the behaviour of cishet men was very damaging for masc people. it is weird, because healthy expressions of masculinity are the last thing i would judge a man for). They also claimed I made their internalised transphobia worse by refusing to date them if they transitioned. I have moved on with my life, but now other people are mixed in and im honestly at a loss. I never forced them to be someone they weren't with me. I never shamed them for their masculinity or discouraged them from exploring their identity, I just stated that dating a trans man wouldn't agree with my sexuality. A healthy response would be to be honest with me, and give me the right to decide for myself whether i would stay with them through their transition or only be able to support them as a friend. They could even just leave without justifying anything.
I don't know. Maybe my trauma is blinding me, but I keep going over the memories in my head trying to figure out how I might be the one behind all that hatred and violence. I don't want to be unfair to them, even if it's just in my own mind, so I'm just speaking up about it for the first time in my life through an AITA tumblr post. Any advice or insight is appreciated.
What are these acronyms?
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do you support trans people?
let's just assume youre asking this in good faith despite this being an extremely vague question that doesn't really ask anything specific lol. so i'll give you answers to a few different interpretations of it and you can let me know if i've missed any that you're especially concerned about 👍
oh and bear in mind the context that i have transitioned medically and lived as both stealth ftm and openly trans/nonbinary and have experienced being trans first person 🙏
do i support trans people's right to live safe and happy lives free from harrassment and discrimination? yes, of course
do i support trans people's right to present themselves however they want to? yes, of course
do i use the correct names and pronouns of trans people that i interact with in real life? of course!
do i believe people when they tell me their gender identity? sure. i have experienced gender dysphoria lol. i get it
do i support trans people's right to good healthcare? yes of course
do i support adult's decisions to transition medically? if they have ACTUAL full informed consent, sure. many many MANY people are not being provided with FULL, INFORMED consent before opting for medical transition. this is not their fault.
do i think it's irresponsible and stupid to tout medical transition as a risk free, reversible, totally harmless way to experiment with gender? yes
do i think any of this should mean that women should scrupulously monitor their language and behaviour at all times to make sure that no one might possibly feel excluded or offended by anything at all? no
am i personally going to walk on eggshells with the language i use to avoid being called names online when anyone with a working brain knows exactly what i'm talking about? no
am i going to police my own presence online to make sure i'm not interacting even remotely with any bloggers who might have different or even distasteful beliefs or opinions to my own? no
do i think the existence of people with gender dysphoria and people who choose to reject binary gender labels and/or whatever other interpretations you might have of any variety of trans identities means that biological sex is suddenly somehow irrelevant and should be ignored? no
do i think that ANYONE AT ALL AT ANY TIME, regardless of identity, has the right to sexual access to women's bodies? no
do i think that any woman should be obliged to date or have sex with anyone she doesn't want to date or have sex with, for any reason at all, including to make that person feel validated? no
do i think that trans women face the same struggles and experiences with misogyny as cis women? no
do i think that you're being wilfully stupid if you claim these two groups of people are indistinguishable? yes
do i think women should have to prioritise the feelings and sensibilities of any other group, even marginalised groups, over their own safety in the face of being raped/forcefully impregnated/abused/killed by men? no <3
anon as ive said before, you're welcome to make your own decisions about me based on these answers & the content of my blog. you can ask me more questions if you want. but i'm not going to give any black and white sweeping statement answers to appease random anonymous tumblr users and i'm not going to pretend i don't see, experience, and understand material reality. i'm not going to pretend that women aren't my priority lol. i'm not going to pretend that i care that much about being careful to use inclusive language instead of just saying "women" and "men". if that's your priority then that's great for you but it's not mine and it doesn't have to be lol
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