#intp rants

[intp-t-bestanalyst]

so you know that official art that Wakui made of south singing?

Yeah that one. It reminded my friend of that one place that nobita from doraemon went with his friends and she sent me these

And so now I think - even though it’s a very small chance - that wakui did this on purpose and I find it so funny and amazing and cool.

like imagine he used to watch it and loved it and then was like “lets remake that one scene” and he did. Like. That’s so cool.

[brynn-lear]

Idk why I find it funny that there's 3 ENTPs for H:SR in the personality database website. And they're all people I know I'd vibe with irl HAHAHHA-

[welivetodream]

The jealousy of other people's skills, the weight of insurmountable expectations, the fear of not achieving and the limitless procrastination keeps me from doing anything.

The fact there's someone out there working hours after midnight and into the lazy afternoons. The fact there's people who run in the rain to reach a destination. The fact there's people who have someone they think of when they sleep or someone that makes them feel alive. The fact there's someone who works harder than you ever could. The fact there's someone who is way better at what you do without any extra effort. The fact.....you will never be what you want to be in life.

I wish I didn't care about anything. To live a life with no destinations, a path where I don't know to what it is leading to. I want to be a no thoughts; head empty kind of person. I want to have no interests in life or so many interests that the failure of a particular thing doesn't bother me, that I can move on freely from one thing to other without regrets. A life of no assumptions, regrets, resolutions, promises, expectations. A life that's full of colour and light, where I walk as if no one else is watching, talk as if none of my words matter, eat as if there's no effect of the food on my body, sleep as if I can be in an endless slumber.

If you don't have to think or care about anything, you can live a life of a nobody. Your actions won't matter and that's okay, actions make past or future but you would always live in the present.

[lemonthepotato]

MBTI Userboxes 2/2

Here from the 16personalities test? Here’s why you might be mistyped.

[god-of-knk]

I had to do the whole MBTI again and this time it isn't even gonna tell me what I got? Asshole website.

[auspicious-poppy]

still thinking about that one tumblr post that went something like "I didn't know why people fought wars over the bible until I discovered fandoms"

[d-lone-vultywr]

Note to others #19: There's always a place for anyone and everyone..... And as for me, my place is up at the metaphorical landfills. Because I pick up on the spoiled refuse that others left behind and forgotten by time (particularly, childhood interests).

That doesn't mean, however, that the feeling of being in love is among the refuse I'd willingly take. No one is obligated to "love" me per se, and also I'm not obligated to"love" anyone --- particularly the skewed definition that the word love is often associated with.

[individualist-infp]

Why do INTP have the great skill of making you change your mind? I'm 100% sure about something I want to do or not do, BUT my INTP mom always ends up convincing me me to do the opposite, even though I knew it wasn't good for me. I always regret it, but it sounded extremely good reasoning coming from her at the moment. Ugh. Hate when that happens. Ti-Ne gives extremely good logical reasoning with new possibilities. INTP also have the great skill of making you doubt about ideas or beliefs you were certain about. They're the ultimate devil's advocate and tricksters.

[a1sh1teruu]

i just took an mbti test and i am istj now lol

[why-dontiknow]

Realising I'll have to actively recover from my depression is hard.

Like, realising I'll NOT be heavily chronically depressed forever is great, the dysthymia might stick with me for longer, maybe forever, but the severe depressive episodes are fading out the more I work on my mental health.

Yet, it's weird. Recovering from depression I mean. It's hard.

Because I actively need to stop dragging myself back by thinking: "this is how I'll be for the rest of my life, there's nothing I can do." I need to stop thinking that I can't do certain stuff because of my depression. And if you've been depressed for so long, you know that's not easy. At all.

Lying in bed when you're depressed is so much easier than going on that walk, or taking that shower, or doing that mentally stimulating tasks, because your energy is so fucking low.

And since there were (and still are) times were I actually still can't do it, it's so incredibly hard to get up when I know I probably could. When I know I need to use that small amount of energy I do have to better my mental health, even though it's so incredibly draining at first.

Part of my mind now knows what I have to do, when and how to do it, the tools to use to better my psychological state. but the other part of my brain and my body are still stuck in that terrible phase were I couldn't use any of it. Where I had to conserve every small amount of energy to "stay functioning".

And just because I'm healing doesn't mean I don't struggle anymore. I just struggle differently. I struggle to actually live now, not just survive.

Healing is hard. I know I can do it, I'm seeing improvements an I'm so proud. But it's incredibly hard still.

[intp-t-bestanalyst]

Nightfalls gonna kill wheeler. (She’s insane)

Yuri isn’t gonna find out about twilight. (He’s oblivious)

And yor is probably grocery shopping with anya. (She’s sulking)

[nighmares-art-and-stories]

English is Weird

All languages have some form of grammer and rules to make the words make sense; with english, after a certain point, random words could be placed in a sentence so it makes no gramatical sense, but still make some cursed sense of sense.

Sentences like:

'I like to clothesline down the hall when my brain stops adulting'

Makes sense even though clothesline is used as a verb when it's a noun and adulting isn't formal english. Either case, it's confusing.

To end this rant, I'd like to say:

'Brain always, or almost always, brains logically. But when english don't english englishly, then the mind must mind that english as mindly as possible.'

Cursed no?

[sky-wisteria]

Hi. 5w4 here, wanted to talk about the “contradictions” section.

I identify as an INFP in MBTI predominantly, and observe in myself a lot of the behaviors of INTP without relating to the function stack.

When I say that I’m an INFP (or INxP, preferably) I’m mostly talking about the archetype and attempting to communicate a generalization of my personality in four individual letters. The ramifications of “INxP” is that that typing’s function stacks become invalid. But honestly, I think MBTI function stacks are - quite plainly - bullshit due to the general inaccuracy of the theory in its application to each individual human.

When I test my function stacks individually, they do not align with any of the pre-designed stacks of any type, let alone INFP or INTP. Mine also breaks the rules regarding I/E structure. Most people I have met who have done further research into their personal function stacks outside what is prescribed by type have had similar experiences.

MBTI enforces arbitrary rules on which function stacks are permitted, and there appears to be a substantial lack of a sound model to justify them.

Hence, seeing as MBTI is baseline illogical (or more kindly, a semi-useful tool for self-understanding and exploration not meant to be taken in a scientific, technical, and rigid way) I don’t think it’s wise to align MBTI with Enneagram as a quantifier for your Enneatype. They are different tests that measure different things. (Although I do agree that it would be very strange for an extrovert to be an e5.)

The Enneagram focuses on people's motivations, fears, and weak spots, while the MBTI focuses on the way people interact and perceive the world. “Divergent” typing matchups are highly statistically probable.

However, if we were to still combine the two differing typing systems, an INFP could certainly be an e5.

The difference lies in the approach of a 5 vs a 4.

Keeping in mind Fi = “emotional logic, compartmentalizes, internalizes/interprets outside stimulation” Fi ≠ “emotional crybaby, melodramatic, hyper senswitive owo”

An INFP 4 often wraps their aesthetic around the mood it creates, because while colors and shapes (for example) may not affect others substantially, the Fi-user has a noticeable emotional reaction.

As a 5, Fi is utilized to sort experiences, and come up with conclusions about the big picture. Observing one’s emotions and then sorting them in the head. While still having strong emotions, they don’t act as impulsively on them, seeing themselves as a sort of human specimen. They muse why exactly something is, and explore various possibilities.

An INFP 5w4 would think less “I love experiencing emotions because they make me feel free and authentic” (4) and more of “I love(?) experiencing emotions because they give me data points to study myself.” (5)

TL;DR:

- MBTI and Enneagram should not be used to quantify the validity of each other, seeing as they are different tests used to measure different things. It is perfectly valid to have an MBTI type that does not “align” with your Enneagram type.

- MBTI function stacks are bullshit and usually aren’t accurate in regards to the majority of people. You can be an INxP if you struggle to relate to just either F or T and feel more in the middle, as pre-made function stacks aren’t applicable most of the time anyway.

- An INFP e5 most certainly can exist, and is (non-surprisingly) pretty easy to find. Hence, the “contradiction” list is not something that should give you too much pause in deciding your Enneatype.

Enneatype 5 summarised!!

Core type-  Passion: avarice. E5s are cautious and value anonymity with what they share in order to maintain the peace and calmness they worked hard to achieve. They need this space to consume information about the world without having to participate in it. Fixation: stinginess. They have a huge thirst for knowledge, usually this will accompany knowledge on how to strategically control their environment. Trap: observer. The e5s fascination with the world comes from a place of anxiety. They want to know everything about life while refusing to really live it. Defence mechanism: isolation. To avoid emptiness and keep their self image of being knowledgeable, they isolate themselves from any painful or intense emotions. Instead they want to focus on their knowledge in hope to completely remove these thoughts. Virtue: detachment. To relieve themselves from their isolation, they will need to detach from their hiding place, experience the world and let go of the anonymity they so crave.  Key traits: The centrality of thinking, emotional detachment and feelinglessness, fear of engulfment, autonomy and self-sufficiency, hypersensitivity.

Subtypes-  Self preservation [sp]: Sp5s build clear walls around themselves to protect their safe space. They have a strong need for things like boundaries and dislike surprises and intrusions. Once they feel as though these boundaries are crossed, they rely on their safe space to retreat to. They generally strongly value control. Sexual [sx]: Sx5s are often more artistic than the other subtypes. They want to find the perfect partner they can share every part of themselves with. Even the parts they’ve suppressed for a long time. Because of this, they are often disappointed in the people they trusted in to be like this perfect person for them. Social [so]: So5s have this same desire to be able to share their ideas and thoughts with others, but this is much more group focused for them. They want to find people who they share interests with and bring them together. They are more obvious in their search for knowledge, but focus less on truly shutting themselves off.

Contradictions-  ESFJ, ENFJ, ESFP, ENFP, ENTP, ESTP, ESTJ, ENTJ, ISFP, INFP, ISFJ The main contradiction in e5 is extroversion. E5 is a very reclusive type, they tend to observe instead of participate and try. This contradicts with the inherent external involvement of any cognitively extroverted type. The second is partially the feeling dichotomy, this is due to their emotional isolation. The sensation dichotomy is also considered to be debatable due to e5s abstract thought process.  Types you might want to look into if you are on this list are e3, e4, e6, e7 and e9.

Compatible types- Self preservation: ISTP, INTP, ISTJ, INTJ Sexual: INFJ, INTP, INTJ Social: INTP, INTJ

[cloudilee]

introvert or extrovert? understandable (same functions just swapped)

intuition or sensing? uhh ok (rarely happens tbh but it is 2 functions apart, it should be easy to tell tho)

thinking or feeling? fair enough (2 functions difference, they can be difficult to tell apart)

pErcEiVinG oR juDgInG 💀 (does not share a single function)

[ddosq]

Star Trek Continues ep7 is a disaster 🙉

(also really good representation of issues in current tv shows and movies)

story wise, it's extremely fragmented...

Now introducing the gender issue they try to address in the ep. They failed to weave it into the story intricately that'll take one along and empathize with the situation and emotions the characters are encountering. Or show different perspectives/ intrigue meaningful thoughts or discussions. Instead it's just the issue dropped in like a dry political statement at a speech, with each character throwing it around. Which makes a story based tv show lose its purpose. Not to mention the really forced mannerisms the characters take to voice the 'right opinion'.

As they didn't fill in on the details of Commander Garrett's story relevant to incident or her past. From whats given in the episode, her blaming of everything on gender discrimination, refusing any form of normal conversation and discussion to together reach an understanding and resolution is frustrating. Furthermore, making the point of 'because I have been discriminated, and therefore the rest owes me the privilege unconditionally' is just really toxic. From the hints of story, it seems there are some issues in her way of leading/collaborating with her crew? But if she gives no detail, how would one know if the underlying cause is her personal ability or a case of discrimination. It's irresponsible of her and also those who pick her to support her without a proper assessment, as she'll be putting her crew at risk. It really feels like she's taking advantage of people who's working to improve these social political issues, using discrimination blaming as an easy tool/ shortcut to reach her goal, than setting the condition fair and right so she could win over everyone with her abilities.

[d-lone-vultywr]

Note to others #21: I just hope for much of this year that my own country (where I live at) won't just throw everything away by waging war against a rather well-known national superpower ---- over some maritime territory my own country's government had already sold out to that same national superpower during the last administration. Surrendering said territory to fuel a foreign country's expansionist desires is already a detestable thing (for nationalistic eyes); forcing an irresponsible war is yet another.

Had my own country's government officials ever had diligence, rationality/forethought and merit of leadership, they should've known by now that not all issues need to be dealt with aggression and militarism. Don't even get me started on this: my own country, priding themselves to be sovereign and operating independently from world government, would want to wage war WITH THE HELP OF OTHER WEALTHIER NATIONS?? Is the idea to wage an irresponsible, aggressive war really sovereignty, or stupidity in action?