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horror sub-genres: lovecraftian/cosmic
#disclaimer i don't agree with or like the person of hp lovecraft but to make it easier to categorize the sub-genre#but it does also go by cosmic horror as well#horror#horror movies#lovecraftian horror#cosmic horror#horroredit#moviesedit#filmedit#cinema#horror cinema#horror aesthetic#i used ones that have inspiration or are direct stories#a cure for wellness#the beyond#event horizon#alien#evil dead#dagon#annihilation#re-animator#call of cthulhu#color out of space#the dunwich horror#from beyond#the haunted palace#edgar allan poe title but hp lovecraft story#in the mouth of madness#necronomicon#the resurrected
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The villain successfully corrupts the hero to their side and regrets it. Maybe the hero is releasing their repressed anger and they are far more brutal, sadistic and violent then the villain anticipated. The villain has to witness their new "partner" commit atrocities they wouldn't dream of. The line of who's the true leader of evil organization eventually gets very very blurred.
#writers on tumblr#writeblr#writing#writing prompt#writerscommunity#writing ideas#writing inspiration#writing inspo#story ideas#story prompt#story inspiration#story inspo#creative writing#hero to villain#hero x villain#heros and villains#hero and villain#fallen hero#villain arc#evil hero#corruption arc#villain x hero
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i think the thing that most grinds my gears about the “jin guangyao HAS to be duplicitous and evil” crowd is the way they have to tie wei wuxian’s morality into it like a counterweight.
for some fans, it really seems like the only way that wei wuxian’s story retains any thematic or moral cohesion is if it can find its clear and unambiguous antithesis in everything jin guangyao does. because if you begin your argument with the thesis statement that “everything jin guangyao does is rooted exclusively in self-interested self-preservation,” and if you are positioning him as the representative of all that is morally bankrupt with the mdzs jianghu, it becomes easier to argue that everything wei wuxian does stems from selflessness and self-sacrifice.
don’t get me wrong, a story like this could still be very compelling. but it isn’t reflective of what is going on with either of these characters.
#jin guangyao doesn’t have to be an evil monster for wei wuxian’s journey to pack a gut punch#finding jgy deeply sympathetic and unjustly punished by the narrative#doesn’t have to take anything away from wwx’s suffering and sacrifice#mdzs meta#jin guangyao#wei wuxian#salty peak sect 🧂#i think it is probably better for me to just write my thoughts here as a separate post#rather than engage directly with the post that inspired me to write this#edited to add that bit about positioning jgy as the immoral heart of the story#bc i think it makes the wwx stans actions make more sense with that included
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Misery AU where Yoichi is the author of the Captain Hero comics and AFO throws him into the vault when he discovers that Yoichi is planning to kill off the Demon Lord
#yoichi wrote the comic to make the public more sympathic towards metahumans#but it has the opposite effect AFO has found a way to use it as inspiration for evil regardless#when Yoichi continues to refuse to rewrite the story AFO just starts uploading his fanfiction under Yoichi's pen name#his fans grow more and more concerned by the villain apologism and assume that the real author has died and was replaced with a ghostwriter#second is a diehard fan who believes in the conspiration theory that the real author is being held hostage#and forced to change the story at gunpoint#they break into Yoichi's mansion#yoichi shigaraki#afo#concepts#my hero academia#afo funded his villain career with yoichi's money
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watching people discover the fucked up science guy part of viktor's lore and then being like "we need to acknowledge that he's a fucked up science guy 😔" is so funny. like yeah, he is a fucked up science guy who thinks ethics committees are bullshit because in his mind having rights temporarily violated is perfectly fine if it means saving lives—especially when the ones condemning his beliefs don't offer what they consider to be an ethical alternative to fix the problem and simply let it continue to exist.
and yeah, he's a fucked up science guy who experimented on himself following a, quote: traumatic period of introspection. he had a mental breakdown, fell into a major depressive episode, and spending this horrible time of his life "alone in the depths" reinforced and radicalized his previous beliefs, and to showcase his beliefs (and to try and get rid of his emotions because of how overwhelming they were) he turned himself into a cyborg (and did in fact make himself worse in certain ways but ehh who cares /j).
and yeah, he's a fucked up science guy who gave a kid back alley anti anxiety meds so he could face down his bullies, but he did so after making him a cozy beverage, teaching him about the dangers of propaganda and baseless rumors, and having him scream into a megaphone to freak out said bullies because it was funny (not that he'd admit to finding it funny because then he'd have to admit to having emotions, and well he can't do that, no sir).
so yes, viktor is a fucked up science guy, but that's half his charm! he cares so much about helping people, but he's a weirdo and freak about it! though to be fair, in the city that also has a chemically enhanced werewolf (warwick), a sentient blob of goo (zac), a wind and water goddess (janna), and a literal war criminal who invented chemical warfare (singed), among many other wacky individuals, he's pretty normal all things considered! fucked up science is just a part of life in zaun, my dudes!
#viktor league of legends#machine herald#uhh those are the only tags I'm doing#still not making a lol tag < is my lol tag#absolutely no hate or offense intended towards anyone bringing up viktor's deeply questionable ethics btw#it's just genuinely a really funny phenomenon to me is all#fr though viktor (and zaun) are meant to represent that dark messy side of science people don't like to acknowledge exists#we would not be where we are today scientifically if it weren't for the people who willingly or unwilling crossed the line#according to a reddit ama the person who wrote viktor’s 2016 lore was directly inspired by the scientists who invented local anesthesia#and tested it on themselves before testing it on patients! obviously what viktor did is just a smidge more extreme than that#but you get the point#he's not evil he's just not exactly mentally well lmao. except the times where he is an evil super villain#95% of the time he should be a weird but otherwise normal guy and the other 5% he should rob banks with his buddies for comedic effect#as zaun is all dark and gritty and deals with complicated complex themes but also it's like a saturday morning cartoon down there#that story from legends of runeterra where viktor takes away all of jinx’s weapons and then gets beat up by vi for it bc she didn't know#that's why the two of them were causing trouble is so fucking funny. just another tuesday am I right?#to be clear I intentionally took a more comedic tone w this post bc I don't have the energy to get into a nuanced discussion of ethics#and discuss the themes of academic elitism mental illness and other stuff in viktor's lore seriously#nor am i particularly knowledgeable of certain aspects that play a part in his lore aka glorious (r)evolution
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I see portrayals of betrayal
And a brother's final stand
I see you on the brink of death
I see you draw your final breath
I see a man who gets to make it home alive
But it's no longer you
Listening to the Epic Musical and, well “No Longer You” really inspired me so enjoy Chase having to face off against a Sphinx and being forced to confront his future.
Enjoy!
#xiaolin showdown#chase young#master monk guan#grandmaster dashi#Dashi era story#Spotify#this wasn’t the story I had planned to post next#but inspiration struck and it was such a short one to throw together#and the fun parallels between Omi and Chase being the two that have to face their futures as evil~
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medical horrors au (1/2): Nurse Ex - assistant nurse of Dr.Zedaph, often judged by other nurses and doctors from the facility as "the quiet nurse of cold eyes", most assume he's the most unethical in his practices, but he's the one responsible for giving Dr.Zedaph's patients relief of death after he's done with them... not that anyone but Ex knows of Dr.Zedaph's unethical medical experiments.
when he's not at the hospital working, he's at home taking care of his sick brother Xisuma, who mysteriously fell ill and had to quit his previous job and stay home 24/7. The illness never seems to be cured, even with heavy dosages of medicine and care from Ex.
(translation of dialogue: " I need you to collaborate with me, please. No need to fear, just relax your muscles... or it will hurt more. )
#evil xisuma#my art#medical horrors au#thank you briar--wood for inspiration for this au in the tags of my original post about it#my fears of the hospital and medical treatment all looped into one horror themed au... enjoy#nurse Ex is heavily inspired by s8 Ex... I think you can piece together the pieces of this story with just this bit of information#especially his relantionship with Xisuma
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Challenge Me
Hello! I had this idea around Halloween time when all the scary movies were playing about, so excuse the morbidity!
Warning for numerous mentions of death and vague depictions of a dead body
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Villain should have looked more unsettling. Pale, maybe, or even blue. Perhaps it was simply too good to be true. Not that Hero necessarily wished him dead, but the alternative was...her stomach churned and she reluctantly touched her own neck. If she thought about it too long, she'd feel the cold of that knife again.
This wasn't what she wanted, yet she was ashamed to admit her relief at the sight.
"You're debating who the real villain is."
She froze, staring at the body, wondering if she truly watched its still lips actually move.
I'm hallucinating, I must be. Hero stepped closer. Suddenly, the walls of the cell felt much closer. It was just her and Villain's body in this confined space. Leader had stepped away. 'So you can process without influence,' he said. She didn't mind or even acknowledge that he had shut the door until now.
Her hand waivered as she reached down, down, down until her second and third finger rested against the artery of Villain's neck. No beat.
If his heart wasn't beating, surely there was no breath. But that voice. It was so distinctly Villain's. Hero leaned down and held her own breath. Villain, too, held his, as all dead bodies did. That was until-
"Should I watch you convince yourself you've lost your mind?"
Hero was halfway across the cell before the body uttered its third word.
"Are you alive?" It came out as a desperate whisper, one so rushed she barely understood her own words.
"Depends on who you're asking." This time, the voice came from the cell door. Hero released a breath, relieved at the sight of Leader. It wasn't until she'd walked close enough to the bars of the cell door that she cocked her head. Shouldn't he have already opened it by now? Come to think of it, why had he closed it at all? It must have been her. She shut it subconsciously, right?
"I'm glad you're back. I didn't realize I closed the door behind me and you're the only one with a set of keys." She chuckled awkwardly, and tucked a strand of hair back, hoping it might also push away the thoughts of the body behind her, of it moving and speaking.
Leader smiled with closed lips and Hero noticed that, for once, his lips were chapped. He made no move to open the door, just stood there with his fingers tucked in his front pockets.
"Did you step outside while you were gone?" she ventured. Why wouldn't he open the door?
"Can't."
She wrapped her fingers around one of the bars, hoping to signal Leader to the door again. "You said he was dead, right? Surely, it's not HR's rules keeping you prisoner to the body."
The body. She was still in the room with Villain's body.
"Not Villain's. Look again."
Her brows drew together and she tilted her head. It was as if Leader read her mind, but she'd known him for at least three years now; he didn't have that ability.
"Sorry?"
"Look again," he repeated. His voice verged on amused, like he was waiting on someone's reaction to a sweet surprise.
"I'm okay," Hero said. Sweat was forming on the back of her next, against her palms, now squeezing the bars. "I've seen enough. I'm just- I'm ready to go home now, Leader. You have the keys."
"Look."
"Leader-"
He took his hands out of his pockets, and if Hero weren't so anxious, she wouldn't have noticed that it was his left hand which held the key to the cell door.
"I didn't know you were ambidextrous." Leader used his right hand, right leg, right everything for all tasks. Hero would know. They used to play games between missions; Inverted Hangman was the game. They would write phrases in reverse order, start drawing from the feet, and use their less-dominant hand. Hero and Leader were both right-handed.
"I'm left-handed," he said simply as he turned the key. Hero stepped back as the door swung open, but Leader gave her no time to step through. Instead, he blocked the way out. "When I tell you to look, I expect you'll do as I say."
His hand shot out in the next moment and grasped Hero's right wrist before twisting it. Her shoulder twisted with and she yelped as Leader grabbed her once again, this time by the shoulder. He pulled her until he was able to capture both shoulders.
Hero slammed her eyes shut and held her breath as her back was spun, held against Leader's chest. Not Leader. This wasn't Leader, and she knew what sight would be before her if she opened her eyes. A confirmation she didn't want.
Leader was dead, and the body on the table wasn't Villain's.
"You're a stubborn one, aren't you?" There it was- Villain's voice, but this time it came from behind her. The body in front of her was as silent as before, only this time, she knew it would be pale, blue, cold, and unmoving. Dead. "I thought you would have figured it out sooner. This was supposed to be fun! Entertaining!"
Leader is dead. He was more than the leader of the team. He was a friend, and he was kind and fun and...and he didn't deserve this. Hero opened her eyes. "No." Leader wasn't just dead. He was...A whine rose in her throat. She squeezed her eyes shut again.
"He was entertaining, kept bargaining. Leave her out of this. She has nothing to do with this anymore. Please. She doesn't deserve this. Kind of like what you thought, huh? Come to think of it, he was a little predictable. Everyone is."
Villain's voice made her sick. She could feel the bile rise, taste it in the back of her throat. "Is that all you want? Someone to surprise you, say something you haven't heard before?" What could she say or do that would rid him? Was it even worth it? Leader was already gone, and if he were gone, so were the others.
"Probably. Haven't figured it out yet." She felt that smile of his creep against the back of her head, felt the slight pulling of her hair as his lips lifted. "The chase was exciting." Hero hated the way he spoke to her like an old friend having small talk one year after graduating from high school. "They hid you well. I just outsmarted them. It's crazy," he said, "I've had this type of...of access to the mind for years, and yet I still learn new things to do with it." The smile fell, and he whispered, "Can you feel that, Hero?"
The cold. The thin, sharp cold she was too familiar with. A blade. Hero didn't dare swallow, no matter how much saliva instinctively gathered on her tongue.
"What's even crazier," he ventured, "is that there's no knife at all. I just found it in that hazy corner of your mind which you try to keep hidden. You can't forget me, Hero, but I like to watch you try. I like to prove to you in every new way that you can't."
Why me?
"You were the first." He said it so sweetly, as if a body didn't lay in front of them, and a body they both knew to be alive at once. "You were confident. Told me to explore the ability. Told me it could do so much and I was wasting it by hiding. Aren't you just so happy I discovered I wasn't the monster I told myself I was?"
"There are other ways"- she gasped as the imaginary knife dug deeper- "to use your abilities. I didn't mean for you to-"
"Become this?"
She nodded.
"Predictable." He sighed, and the sting of the blade evaporated. "I'm going to let you go, and you're going to run as far away from me as you can, okay?"
"How can I run when you know my every move?" Still, she kept her eyes closed, unable to face Leader, and her arms were stiff as she was held back. She ached to run, but how could she?
"Challenge me, Hero. Prove to me that I'm not the monster I told you I was all those years ago, the monster you tried to convince yourself didn't exist. Prove it." He released her. "Run."
#hero x villain#hero x villain story#heroes and villains#hero#villain#not a pr0mpt#evil villain#I've been away long enough that I've forgotten all my tags so if you find this then it was meant to be.#Peace! I know I don't write nearly as often but my inbox is still always open. Your idea might be the next inspiration :)
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This video analysis is absolutely valid and I want to rant about it.
TW: child abuse, child exploitaton
This is the type of fictional trope I hate the most. Not because I think it should be "censured" or because people cannot enjoy this media, no, on the contrary, enjoy and consume the media you like, but also, be critical of it. In all of these "spooky little girls" (western*) movies, we're met with the same premise: these little girls may seem like victims, but they're actually spiteful little bitches and dangerous monsters that need to be punished. The abuse done against them is justified!
*I'm not entitled to speak about oriental movies because I'm not oriental nor am educated in oriental culture/pop culture, but I'd like to point how the original Japanese "Ringu" presents Sadako as victim, an intersex woman that suffered crimes, was abused and killed for being different, while her American version is an "evil little girl that not only deserved, but needed to be abused, isolated and killed." This is one of the many reasons that make the American version inferior.
Take Case 39 as an example (not mentioned in the video essay, but the finest example of this trope): Lilith's parents try to burn her alive in the start of the movie, and their action is not only justified, but also seen as necessary. Lilith is a demonic little girl that needs to be killed. The protagonist, Emily, is a social worker that wants to protect the little girl, but is later haunted by her, a karmic consequence for her compassion. Lilith has lines such as:
"We need to learn healthier ways of resolving conflict (...)" a mockery of non-abusive parents that don't punish nor hurt their child when they do something wrong. A parent communicating with their child? Admitting when the mistake is actually theirs? Not beating up their child? Actually explaining why X and Y is wrong and why A and B is right instead of yelling "obey me"? No, this is useless. The result of a non-abusive education is a demonic little kid.
"Most families don't even know they have a problem, until it's too late." The neglect of a child is actually the child's fault, not the parent's!
"I want what you wanted from your mother. I want you to love me." Ah yes, the old and good trauma cycle. Emily has her own trauma with her mother, she is depicted as the good victim while Lilith is the bad one. Often, abusive parents use their own trauma as an excuse to how they treat their child. "I was raised this way and I'm alive and good!", right? If you were abused in the past by your parents, it's okay to do the same with your child. You're alive, after all. It's ok to discount your own frustration on them.
"You have to do what I say. If I say I want to go to a group, you have to do it. If I say I want a new dress, you have to do it. If I say I want ice cream, you have to do it." So scary and demonic, a child demanding basic attention.
The whole point and plot-twist of Case 39 is that it was foolish of Emily to care for a child being abused and nearly killed. The 'child' is not even human, she is a demon that disobeys adults and cause harm. A karmic consequence. In the final scene where she finally kills Lilith, Emily mockingly asks "are you scared?". Killing the little girl that caused you trouble is funny. It should be mocked. Punishment against children is "right and necessary". It's funny to watch a child be punished for misbehaving. This is why child exploitation content on the internet is so popular.
Abusive parents aren't anything new, but the way abuse against children is being filmed and made public to the internet in recent years is not only disgusting but also worrying. I'm absolutely against exposing children (specially small children) on the internet for any reason, but SPECIALLY when abusing and humiliating them for hundreds and thousands of people to watch. People with the same abusive tendency that agree with the parents, mock the children and share their humiliation with friends, in their own social media, etc. The amount of "I hate kids" speech that it's getting popular in recent years is horrifying, especially when hidden with a "progressive" mask. Abusing children is not progressive. Humiliating children is not progressive, and hating this group of people that are treated as literal property is not progressive.
Brasil-related part of the most: I just watched a video narrating a horrific incident in Brazilian Tiktok media. An abusive, putrid "mother" forced her daughter to drink an unhealthy amount of juice until she cried and almost vomited, filmed the abuse, posted it on the internet, thousands of people watched her video and glorified her abuse. This disgusting human being was giving her child a "punishment", the reason: her daughter visited her aunt and said she wished her mom bought her juice. This is the reason. Her mother's ego was hurt because how dare my daughter want things, and abused her in front of a camera to gain money. This is what 's been posted online for years. This is being normalized. People online are glorifying, giving money to and supporting abusers. People online are mocking abused children. Children were always treated as property, and I doubt this is going to change any time soon. Anytime a responsible parent opens up about a positive, respectful, loving and humane way to raise their child, they're met with mockery. Anytime an isolated case where a child acts violently (for literally any reason), the same rhetoric is used as a "solution": "abusing children is right because it keeps them in line, and not abusing them will cause them to disobey you and turn evil".
This isn't just fiction. This is real life. Children should not be abused, even less exposed in social media. Abuse against children shouldn't be mocked, normalized or seeing as justifiable. Abused children can and most likely will lash out, but they are not responsible for being abused. The parents are. I'm not naive to think that "making fiction about abusive parents being held accountable instead of the abused children" will change society and free the oppressed youth, but I do think we must have this conversation more. Mainly, report and call out abusive parents, especially when they post their abuse in public online spaces. Because demonic, evil, super powerful little girls are not real, but abusive parents and abused children are.
#friendly reminder that this isn't a manifesto against fictional tropes nor in favor of media censorship#i'm just pointing out how so many of these movies are inspired by real life rethoric and culture#guess what. I like these movies. I like the ring even tho the japanese version is better#i really like case39. I like 2009 orphan. I'm not familiar with resident evil but eveline's story was interesting#i like the movies despite my distaste for the trope they use#these tropes were used so many times that it's getting old#i think it's time we analyze *why* this genre of horror is so popular#youth liberation#children are not property#child abuse#sadako yamamura#samara morgan#case 39#resident evil 7#orphan 2009#human rights#child rights#children are people
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not shipping something subtextual? alright whatever
not shipping it because a wildly popular INACCURATE fan theory says the characters are related? annoying.
not shipping it because you believe (falsely) that they're related + claiming there's no subtext when the crux of the series is the relationship? DIE.
#i need to write my thesis on portal as a feminist story it's been brewing in my head for years and every time#someone says something stupid about caroline or chell or glados it bubbles up and i become exponentially more evil#maybe writing it will inspire less rage within my heart when I see a godawful take in the wild#even if you don't like chelldos. and I get that. you can't deny that the chell and glados' situationship is the heart of both games#the first game ends with them trying to kill each other. the second one ends with them saving each other#portal#chelldos#I swear some people opened the game and absorbed nothing but british men and glowing hole#I think of the GLaDOS line ''I'm being serious I think there's something really wrong with me'' every fucking day#the delivery and context of it. also she's just like me#oroeginals
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there’s like a surprising amount of thomas no shinzou academic essays but one thing i don’t agree about is that they all say juli has some form of internalized homophobia. simply not true
#romantic friendships & homosexuality is accepted in schlotterbetz#juli felt shame for other things#it wasn’t because thomas was a boy. it wasn’t because siegfried was a man#he was ashamed for being attracted to siegfried because he knew what type of guy he was#brutish evil etc#and he thought he was tainted from that & the abuse he suffered#and it gets to that point where i understand why people think juli struggles with his own sexuality#i think it’s just a matter of his own ‘purity’ and how he viewed that concept#anyways.#my friend put it nicely: you really have to read thomas thru the lens of the works it was inspired from#those early gay 19th century novels set in boarding schools#and not so much as a modern story#with modern concepts of what it means to be gay#Anyways rant over lul#kazeki is a different story it’s internalized homophobia level 590000#manuscript
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A villain so powerful and brutal they drive the hero into villainy out of sheer desperation. A hero who's plans to stop the villain once and for all start resembling and then surpassing the villain's plans. A hero who dosen't want to hurt anyone except for the villain but who starts to justify more and more collateral damage as the years drag on.
For example, after years of the villain committing to many war crimes to count the hero is legitimately considering just nuking the Villains's capital city to get it over with. They can even justify it to themselves after all a lot of the capital cities population are the villain's rich supporters and henchmen (but far more are starving in the slums). Maybe the villain even finds out about this plan and is horrifed, They may be evil but even they are not foolish enough to resort to nukes.
#writing#writers on tumblr#writeblr#creative writing#writing prompt#writing inspiration#writing inspo#writing ideas#writerscommunity#story prompt#story ideas#story inspo#story inspiration#heros and villains#hero to villain#villain arc#fallen hero#hero and villain#corruption arc#evil villain#morally grey characters#hero villain prompt#hero vs villain#hero villain writing#hero villain whump
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have i shown this guy yet. uuhhh dnd character 😁😁😁😁 im playing curse of stradh its my first ever full campaign ive just done a couple one-shots before this!!!! Im really excited!!!!! Pls no spoilers
his name is sanguine hes a half-elf warlock hes very weak and sickly so as a kid he would get these spells where hed just rot in bed for like weeks like a little victorian child. but he survived and now he has a zest for life since hes so fragile hes on a quest for immortality. also he joined a church and then burnt it down theres a lot of stuff hes done it's not so important but that's why he's wearing the priest get-up
#dnd#dnd art#dnd character#dungeons and dragons#curse of strahd#my art#he is just a reskin of sanguine from my story btw. just dnd-ified and not so completely evil#other inspirations include griffith and thistle from dungeon meshi!!!!#he is 18 years old btw. compared to everybody else in the party being like 22-25 at least
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The Completed version of that Daughter Son Of Evil fanart I made inspired by @rolfedewolfefan16's Villain AU (It's Peak)
File was too big so I made it a screenshot
#Idk How Servant Of Evil would Work tho#nurture not nature#vocaloid#kagamine rin#kagamine len#daughter of evil#villain rolfe#villain au#story of evil#earl schmerle#rolfe and earl#rae#rock afire explosion#rolfe dewolfe#rockafire explosion#rock a fire explosion#rocka fire explosion#showbiz pizza#the rockafire explosion#the rock afire explosion#The Rock-Afire Explosion#rolfe#My Art#art#art tumblr#digital art#photoshop#Inspired by rolfedewolfefan16#Go support them#fanart
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i read all of the denki mystery stories in a frenzy a few weeks ago and have been stewing on kiru concepts for it ever since.... shes a laundry attendant in akatsuka village with [less than] loose ties to the matsuno family. in this au shes particularly close to toshio/jyushi, who begins frequenting the laundromat after his grandmother's death in spite of the considerable wealth the ogami estate has. he seems aware that theres a connection there but he isnt sure what it really is...
#my art#osomatsu san oc#ocs#kiru#au#it drives me CRAZY that we know nothing about matsuyo in denki mystery btw#like shes just. not even mentioned??? or alluded to at all really??????#so for kiru's story i took advantage of that a little bit lol.... evil of me but idc!!!#i have ideas for keiko + ippei as well but theyre much more loose. all i know about ippei is that hes in a comedy#while everyone else is in a mystery thriller#and keiko is probably a horror mangaka who came to the village for inspiration and left with. well a lot more than that
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I don't get why people hate the timeline so much, its not like you can't pretty much completely ignore it when you play the games. The only time it even approaches mattering to the story is when there is an explicit sequel like botw and totk or zelda and zelda 2
Hey sorry your ask got lost in the sauce of my broken tumblr, but: yeah!
I mean, I get why in some sense. It's been a heated point of debate and I think some people understandably resent the space it has taken not only in fandom discourse, but in how people began to understand the game and its narrative aesthetic choices. There is such a thing as over-rationalizing everything to hard logic, and sometimes it's just not the fandom for that --especially when you begin to forget it's all just fan theory and start to forget what the games are supposed to be like and evoke beyond just strict facts displayed in a linear way.
What I think bugs me with TotK in particular is that it both evokes and relies on continuity and the idea of a timeline, of archeology, of history itself, while being so loose and vacant with it that it both is doing Timeline Shit while also completely failing to understand why some parts of the fandom were invested in Timeline Shit to begin with.
But that's just my two cents of course!
#asks#tloz#timeline#totk critical#thanks for the ask!#I do... feel two ways about that myself#I think pure evocation is genuinely one of zelda's greatest storytelling strengths#that mood is sufficient and enough in itself and doesn't always need justification#it is the way the games center story --and that's genuinely wonderful and a strong take on narrative in games#as something freeflowing and accompanying gameplay rather than the opposite#and to ignore that and focus on hard facts all of the time kind of misses the point of the games' stories to a degree#BUT#I also get quite annoyed at the weird condescencion towards fans that do decide to engage with the stories more factually#especially since this is either revelatory regarding some of nintendo's choices#(that the aesthetics of evil are so tied to The Desert TM while taking so many inspirations from european fairy tales for example)#(it's not neutral even if we ignore ingame “lore”)#or just a great fodder for creativity and narrative play#and it is a part of the IP too!! just as much as dungeons and items and musics and curiosity-driven exploration!!#I do have beef with people not resonating with that aspect thinking others that do so are just stupid or childish#and that you can only have an enlightened relationship with zelda if you like it “the right way”#(which is somehow always mechanics/logic-driven which is. interesting to me.)#(or in a completely passively aesthetic way as in “I like fairies they're pretty”)#but you know it's the weird Triforce Shirt Dude stigma thing#that notion that you can (and must!) Love Zelda Deeply and Defensively#but you cannot be *passionate* about Zelda#then it's weird and immature#I don't know I feel like there's a lot to analyze in that arbitrary dychotomy#anyway sorry for the mega novel in the tags!!
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