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//Ok but this is so important. I witnessed this happen to a friend of mine in the first Destiny community I was in. We’re no longer a part of it but it was so completely heartbreaking to experience that I’m still recovering from it.
//so please be aware of this kind of stuff. If you see it happening around you, try to take steps to help turn things around. If you see it in your own behavior, try to change it. Try to recognize your own bullying behaviors and choose differently, choose to be better, to be honest, and maybe compassionate instead.
//I don’t know if I’ve put people in the bullied situation, but if I have, I am so sorry.
//I do have some YouTube channels that have been helping me heal from the aforementioned stuff above as well as bad coping mechanisms I’ve been working on kicking. I hope they’ll help you guys too.
https://www.youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGG
https://www.youtube.com/@ManTalks
https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyinaNutshell
https://www.youtube.com/@JimmyonRelationships
https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoADHD
#ooc || out of light#bullying#healing#how to heal#how to help#how to combat indirect aggression#indirect aggression#dealing with indirect aggression#Youtube
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Review: Odd Girl Out by Rachel Simmons
Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in GirlsRachel SimmonsMariner BooksPublished August 3, 2011 Amazon | Bookshop | Goodreads About Odd Girl Out When ODD GIRL OUT was first published, it became an instant bestseller and ignited a long-overdue conversation about the hidden culture of female bullying. Today the dirty looks, taunting notes, and social exclusion that plague girls’…
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#backlist#bullying#female relationships#Girl Friends#indirect aggression#Odd Girl Out#Ophelia Project#Rachel Simmons
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#tbh George's hatred of yoko is a little overblown given that they got along later in life#and Paul credits George with convincing him to forgive her (though I'm not sure for what?)#but there was a hot minute there where holy shit he did not have nice things to say about yoko lmao#I mean I get it they all hated her at first#but vehemently hating someone bc you have so much repressed rage it feels good to see your friend get sad/mad when you hate on his wife#is 100% post-catholic culture#it's a level of passive aggression and emotional repression and indirection that normal people couldn't even comprehend#and then you wake up years later like “wait maybe that wasn't entirely about her"#but by then it's usually too late#george harrison#the beatles#op#beatles meme#shitpost#queue
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I was thinking about the masters outfits earlier and I never realised how much missys style still effects the master.
I realised this while comparing the saxon masters outfit to the spy masters, because they are very different. Then I realised, both Missy and Dhawan!Master are total outliers from the rest of the masters
The master typically wears all black, and only occasionally wears more extravagant, colourful outfits
Yana/The war master was a bit different, and big finish actually seems to give him quite a lot of variation in his outfits
But then going back to simm master, it's mostly black again, with just a pop of colour. Mainly red, which I think is a good choice for him, but also a little bit of green, which I find interesting, I suppose it matches the war master outfit above.
Then we have MISSY! She wears almost entirely purple. Sometimes darker, sometimes more vibrant, but pretty much always purple
And then the spy master (Dhawan!master) also wears purple, but he's also introduced some blue, and what i think is actually red but it often looks orange
He had a couple outfit changes but this was his primary outfit. Its so much closer to missy than to any of the other masters. I like that. I like the idea of expressing characters through outfits and so the choice to have him be closer to missy in that respect fascinates me
#doctor who#sorry long post#i was thinking about this during my lecture earlier oops#i missed something about direct vs indirect aggression#the master#dhawan master#missy
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this might sound mean but it really is a shame that mental healthcare in Ireland is so poor because I have never encountered a people more in need of extensive collective therapy than the Irish.
#there's such a huge inability to express feelings or emotions here#which contributes to a really pervasive tendency towards passive-aggression and frustrating indirectness#extreme non-confrontational attitudes and the inability to just honestly communicate with friends and family#encourages people to simply never address simmering problems until it either explodes or they just ghost their friends#which all also contributes to the culture of binge-drinking#because most Irish people can only have deep conversations when absolutely hammered#just...the widespread emotional stuntedness is not cute
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Did I just scream at a fictional character to stop smiling?
Yes I did. And you will never guess who. /s
(I'll let y'all guess anyways, even though it's obvious who- :3 I'll leave hints in the tags)
#danganronpa despair time#drdt#I make too much ANGST#This is somewhat an indirect ANGST post#I'll add who I'm talking about like#whenever I want to Ig-#No but I deadass actually went#“STOP SMILING BI—”#Hint though:#Its a certain passive aggressive blonde !#I'm currently resisting the urge to post ANGST for him here#because I made too much#Can't promise I won't post more though or even NOT make more#He's so ANGSTfiable (is that even a word)#It's quiet obvious who I'm talking about at this point#yay!!! yippee!!!
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#alex yells at the void#bpd is such a fun disorder and by fun i mean one of the most painful mental disorders to live with#sometimes i feel bad for projecting so much one ellie cause she will be going through it tm#but then again my therapist said projection is good and helpful so there's that#love being caught in the dilemma of tell ppl you're struggling and risk annoying them#and dont tell them and risk the same#like bestie my options arent really great here isnt there a secret third way#you wont get too much they say and then leave because i got too much like ok how do you expect me to actually believe anyone telling me tha#my therapist said it's fine and understandable that im scared etc. etc.#as long as i try to take good experiences as they come#but bestie i am very tired of getting like one good experience every two years and nothing but horrible shit for the rest#also very tired of passive aggressive bullshit and indirectness like if there's something bothering you just fucking tell me#dont be like my ex or my parents or anyone else ever#the world isnt all like that they say as if it hasnt been that way my entire life because the universe hates me and i dont deserve happines#i dont do diaries or journaling i just do vague vents in tumblr tags but it is what it is
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#experiencing someone tell you they don’t give a shit about the happiness in your life because there are people suffering in the world#is kind of one of those full stop end of discussion moments#even when it’s said in a passive aggressive or indirect way#the intent is clear and it’s something you can’t argue with#you just have to say I guess I officially know where I stand with you then and move on#anyways#don’t let you performative activism ruin your personal relationships irl#learn to balance your activism with your daily life#being logged into the horrors 24/7 is not healthy and it doesn’t make you a better person
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hi do y'all remember lj
#this is not about lj#its his roommate#he's the only person in boys that bcg don't actively talks to and im sure they don't like each other#and he is my friend because he is my practical batch so more than anyone he is around me all day#and i really like being his friend he's witty he enjoy doing laboratories and would make you enjoy them too#but idk why he's so bummed about me choosing bcg instead of lj dude it's been 6 months what the fuck#and he shouldn't have a say in it#lj is literally moved on is really good friends with bcg and talks to me just fine#but i don't seem to understand why this guy literally has a problem he'll make indirect jokes about me choosing bcg#so much too the point lj shouted on him said kya faaltu baat karta rehta hai bhenchod#and he kept asking me why did you chose him what did you like specially the question why did you go in so quick#no?? you think i was quick because you didn't see what was happening all the time#and idk after batches changed and roll number shuffled and we came in second year he's only really the person that's remained from my#previous batch so im comfortable with him#but why the passive aggressive attacks on bcg#and whenever i stopped it he was like chill can you take a joke#but im at my limit rn#literally
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i'm not close with both sides of my family for two vastly different reasons. my maternal family is because of the language barrier and the first 11 years of my life having been dedicated to making me as white american as possible. and my paternal family is because they are super conservative mormons who are perhaps some of the worst representations of US culture and people and i am a proudly mexican-american dyke
#at least my mexican family dont judge me openly and theres always copious alcohol#meanwhile the mormons....no drinks.....all judgement.....#tragically my mom is just as passive aggressive and indirect as them. and so am i despite my best efforts#when my mental health is bad i revert back to those because that is my base setting#editing to add in the tags bc this isnt twitter: i have had a fair amount of sangria and i am so sad that i cant text the person im talking#to lately bc i wanna FLIRT. i wanna show her my fit..........but my roaming plan changed and i dont have free texting in mexico anymore :(#probably a concern that im amorous/romantically inclined only when inebriated
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Types of Betrayals and the 12th House
Sun in the 12th House
self-betrayal, neglecting personal identity in favor of others
putting on a false persona to fit in
unacknowledged talents, not pursuing creative passions due to fear of judgment
abandoning leadership roles due to self-doubt
being overlooked for achievements or efforts
partners undermining self-worth or ambitions
hidden competitors, friends or colleagues sabotaging success
feeling unsupported by family in personal ambitions
public shaming or criticism
Moon in the 12th House
friends or family hiding true feelings or secrets
self-neglect, like ignoring emotional needs
trust issues
subconscious sabotaging
disillusioned by family or nurturing figures
inconsistent emotional support
manipulative partners
isolation or feeling emotionally abandoned by loved ones
mood swings
Mercury in the 12th House
miscommunication, or through lies or misrepresentation
stolen ideas
gossip or harmful rumors
hidden agendas
self-censorship
sharing secrets with those who shouldn’t know
receiving poor advice from trusted sources
signing contracts without full disclosure, deceptive agreements
Venus in the 12th House
infidelity or secret affairs
one-sided love or emotional neglect
partners misuse financial resources
hidden jealousy
feeling reduced to an object of desire rather than valued
love scams
being ostracized by a social group
artistic suppression
lack of appreciation
Mars in the 12th House
passive-aggressiveness or indirect hostility from close relations
friends not supporting you in times of need, maybe they compete instead of supporting
repressed anger
health neglect
hidden animosity from acquaintances
fighting battles or challenges alone
misguided aggression, like lashing out at those who haven’t wronged you
holding grudges that lead to isolation
colleagues sabotage your projects or ambitions
Jupiter in the 12th House
overindulgence that harms well-being
isolation from knowledge
overconfidence
judgmental attitudes
secret limitations that hinder success
misplaced faith
ignoring significant truths due to complacency
philosophical conflicts, betrayals through differing values
betrayals from mentors or spiritual leaders
Saturn in the 12th House
unspoken fears that lead to isolation
humiliation due to one’s past
burdens from unsaid expectations from others
others limiting your self-expression
others questioning your authority or competency behind your back
sacrificing personal goals for the sake of others
friends or family compromising your public image
secret resentment or holding onto grudges
Uranus in the 12th House
sudden ending in relationships without warning
disruption of stability, like sudden changes in life leading to chaos
deceitful friendships, not as supportive as they appear
neglecting personal freedom
feeling misunderstood due to eccentricities or uniqueness
no support when you rebel against conformity
fear of change
betrayal through unorthodox relationship dynamics
Neptune in the 12th House
illusions of trust
hidden addictions or unhealthy habits
living in denial regarding relationships
victim mentality
losing faith in spiritual beliefs or mentors due betrayal or doubt
confusion about personal limits leading to exploitation
escapism
others using emotional manipulation
Pluto in the 12th House
through power struggles and hidden manipulation
fear of transformation
disguised motivations
obsession with loss
emotional scars
hidden control issues, like others may exert unseen control over your personal choices
powerlessness, feeling victimized in situations that call for action
fear of intimacy
self-destructive patterns
Rahu/North Node in the 12th House
believing that you’re more than you are, illusions of grandeur
hidden envy from others or yourself
secret addictions
escapism
victim mentality
destructive fantasies
evasion of responsibility
friends using deceit to gain favor or control
disregarding boundaries, yours or others
Ketu/South Node in the 12th House
unconscious withdrawal from personal connections
past conflicts surfacing unexpectedly
denial of reality
fear of intimacy
confusion about identity
holding onto toxic relationships
overlooking self-care
friends who are secretly resentful or envious
feeling disconnected from spiritual communities
Black Moon Lilith in the 12th House
suppressed desires
fear of rejection
undermined feminine energy, like not valuing your power or intuition
using guilt to control or influence other
not confronting truths about yourself
obsession with control
allowing past experiences to dictate current behavior
secretive relationships
Chiron in the 12th House
seeking help from those unqualified or deceptive guides
not seeking help due to pride or shame
being exposed to harm due to not showing true self
fear of abandonment
wounds from isolation or solitude during challenging times
behaviors that prevent healing
not recognizing the source of emotional pain
#astrology#astrology observations#astro notes#astro community#astro observations#astrology signs#astronotes#jupiter in the 12th house#saturn in the 12th house#mercury in the 12th house#venus in the 12th house#sun in the 12th house#moon in the 12th house#mars in the 12th house#12th house
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I've seen a lot of "You have to communicate directly/don't expect other people to read your mind" posts going around tumblr lately and while I really do appreciate them because it's a skill a LOT of people need to work on, I do want to remind everyone to please meet people halfway sometimes.
I recently read a story on Reddit about a guy's pregnant wife texting him "I'm craving donuts but we don't have any in the house 😔" and he DIDN'T stop to pick up donuts on the way home from work. Everyone was taking his side because "she needs to communicate" and "he's not a mind reader" and "How was he supposed to know she wanted him to get donuts???" People, ffs, why on earth would she text him that while he was at work if not because she wanted him to get donuts? I was flabbergasted everyone was taking his side. "How was he supposed to know??" What? Like yeah it's true she didn't say "I want you to get me donuts" with those exact words in that exact order but the reason why people get upset if they hint they want you to do something and you don't do it is because they feel like you don't care about them and aren't actively thinking about their feelings. Especially in a marriage or LTR they are in a situation where the assumption is you care about filling the other person's needs.
Someone who loves and cares about someone will get the donuts "without being asked" just because their partner expresses a want or need. That's what someone is fishing for when they say "Aaaah I'm craving donuts 🥺🥺🥺" It's less about the donuts and more about feeling cared for. Sometimes straight up asking "Can you get me donuts?" defeats the purpose.
Also, women are typically socialized to communicate this way because they're punished socially for being too direct. I've heard that people of color, especially black people, often do this too because they're likely to be branded as "aggressive" if they're too direct with white people. So it might be a good idea to be a bit intersectional if we're trying to encourage people to be more direct.
Take the stereotypical example of a wife gets a new haircut and then gets upset that the husband doesn't notice. She's not literally mad at him for not saying the exact words "I like your new haircut." She's upset because she feels like he doesn't look at her and appreciate the efforts she's putting in anymore.
Obviously this will vary widely depending on the nature of your relationship with someone, but especially when it comes to intimate partnerships, there are certain things your significant other should not have to tell you directly. It's probably safe to assume your wife or husband wants a birthday present even if they don't ask for it. It's probably safe to assume your bf or gf would appreciate a valentine's day present or a compliment without them having to literally ask for it, unless they explicitly say otherwise.
This is difficult for a lot of neurodivergent people to learn manually if it's not instinctual and they didn't learn it growing up (lord knows I didn't) and yes, it's true that most people (especially NT people) should learn to communicate more directly. But also, your relationships would probably benefit from learning to read indirect cues and just pick up the donuts on the way home because you heard your wife is craving them. Sometimes what someone wants is for you to think about what they're feeling and what they want and do it without them asking directly. It's up to you whether or not you do that, but sometimes that is asking. I think this is what people generally mean when they say their partner is "thoughtful."
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Absolutely this. When my boss starts walking quickly around the office, it’s triggering for me. All related to growing up with two abusers.
abuse victims are very sensitive to passive aggressive acts of indirect violence. shit like slamming doors and stomping around doesn’t make a statement; it puts us in a state of panic. don’t make noise simply to rattle someone else. if you’re angry step outside and breathe. go for a walk and collect your thoughts otherwise we will not feel safe with you if you insist on expressing your anger through intimidation and force.
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List of 400+ Dialogue Tags
Below is a full (but not exhaustive) and updated list of dialogue tags. Dialogue tags are a widely debated topic for writers, some saying you should only use said, others arguing the opposite. You will get no opinion for me—only a list to use as you wish :D
Some words may differ in categories based on context.
Expressing Agreement or Confirmation
Acknowledged, Admitted, Affirmed, Agreed, Apologized, Confirmed, Conceded, Gibed, Professed, Reassured, Verified, Vouched
Initiating or Continuing Conversation
Added, Began, Chimed In, Commented, Continued, Conversed, Discussed, Elaborated, Greeted, Interjected, Offered, Proposed, Remarked, Went On
Making a Declaration or Announcement
Announced, Attested, Declared, Decreed, Emphasized, Enunciated, Proclaimed, Revealed, Stated, Voiced
Formal or Deliberate Communication
Chanted, Concurred, Observed, Postulated, Preached, Put Forth, Reasoned, Surmised, Testified
Indirect Communication
Digressed, Hinted, Implied, Insinuated
Providing Information, Explanation or Speculation
Alleged, Articulated, Asserted, Clarified, Doubted, Equivocated, Explained, Guessed, Imparted, Informed, Lectured, Noted, Predicted, Quoted, Recited, Reported, Theorized
Expressing Doubt or Uncertainty
Doubted, Faltered, Guessed, Hesitated, Pondered, Questioned, Speculated, Wondered, Ventured
Seeking or Giving Advice
Advised, Coaxed, Proposed, Recommended, Remonstrated, Suggested, Supposed, Urged
Animalistic
Barked, Croaked, Growled, Hissed, Hooted, Howled, Hummed, Roared, Snarled
Expressing Discontent or Frustration
Complained, Fretted, Grumbled, Protested, Ranted
Demonstrating Authority or Command
Avowed, Commanded, Crowed, Decided, Demanded, Dictated, Directed, Insisted, Instructed, Maintained, Ordered, Pressed, Proclaimed, Reprimanded
Displaying Confidence or Assertiveness
Asserted, Assured, Boasted, Bragged, Claimed, Piped Up, Pledged, Spoke Up, Told, Vowed
Exhibiting Anger or Aggression
Accused, Bristled, Challenged, Cursed, Erupted, Exasperated, Fumed, Groaned, Huffed, Raged, Seethed, Snapped, Spat, Stormed, Swore, Threatened, Whinged
Displaying Sadness or Despair
Anguished, Bawled, Bemoaned, Blubbered, Cried, Despaired, Grieved, Lamented, Mourned, Sobbed, Wept, Whimpered, Worried
Persuasiveness
Appealed, Begged, Cajoled, Convinced, Persuaded, Petitioned, Pleaded, Prayed
Conveying Fear or Worry
Cautioned, Entreated, Gasped, Quaked, Shuddered, Stressed, Trembled, Warned
Softly or Quietly
Breathed, Called, Crooned, Murmured, Mumbled, Muttered, Sighed, Whispered
Loudly or Forcefully
Bellowed, Boomed, Cried Out, Hollered, Screamed, Screeched, Shouted, Shrieked, Thundered, Wailed, Whooped, Yelled
Demonstrating Disgust or Disdain
Cringed, Gagged, Griped, Groused, Rasped, Scowled, Sneered, Snorted
Expressing Mockery, Disrespect or Sarcasm
Dared, Imitated, Insulted, Jeered, Mimicked, Mocked, Ribbed, Ridiculed, Scoffed, Snickered, Taunted
Doing Annoyingly
Gloated, Goaded, Nagged, Pestered, Provoked, Sassed, Tattled
Emotional or Expressive Communication
Grunted, Mewled, Panted, Quavered, Sniffled, Snivelled, Squawked, Whined, Yowled
Showing Empathy or Comfort
Comforted, Consoled, Empathized, Soothed, Sympathized
Indicating Thoughtfulness or Reflection
Contemplated, Echoed, Mused, Pondered, Recalled, Reflected, Remembered, Reminded, Reminisced, Retorted, Reiterated
Expressing Humour or Amusement
Cackled, Chirped, Chuckled, Giggled, Guffawed, Jested, Joked, Laughed, Quipped
Revealing Information
Confessed, Confided, Divulged, Disclosed, Expressed, Hinted, Revealed, Shared, Spilled, Uttered
In a Flirtatious Way
Bantered, Cooed, Flirted, Joshed, Moaned, Purred, Teased
Demonstrating Surprise or Astonishment
Gasped, Marvelled, Yelped
Indicating Hesitation or Reluctance
Faltered, Hesitated, Stammered, Stuttered
Engaging in a Dispute or Argument
Argued, Bargained, Bickered, Contended, Debated, Disputed, Negotiates, Objected, Rebutted, Shot Back
Showing Enthusiasm or Excitement
Beamed, Blurted, Cheered, Exclaimed, Gushed, Raved, Rejoiced, Sang, Squealed, Trumpeted
Expressing Approval or Praise
Applauded, Complimented, Encouraged, Exhorted, Extolled, Lauded, Praised
Speaking in a Continuous or Repetitive Manner
Babbled, Chattered, Jabbered, Rambled, Rattled On, Repeated
Questions and Answers
Answered, Asked, Cross-examined, Inquired, Implored, Probed. Prodded, Prompted, Queried, Questioned, Quizzed, Requested
Expressing Criticism or Disagreement
Challenged, Chastised, Chided, Condemned, Corrected, Countered, Criticized, Deflected, Demurred, Denounced, Scolded
Negative or Deceptive Communication
Denied, Droned, Exaggerated, Interrupted, Lied
Finishing the Conversation
Concluded, Finished, Thanked
Neutral or Miscellaneous
Admired, Consented, Foretold, Invited, Mentioned, Mouthed, Pointed Out, Replied, Said, Sputtered, Volunteered
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🤫🤔🫢🫦🧠🗣️ Your Communication Issues Based on Your Rising Sign 🤫🤔🫢🫦🧠🗣️
Disclaimer: If it don’t apply, let it fly ☺️😌
Aries Rising:
* Speaking aggressively even when calm.
* Noticeable anxiety when they speak ( voice getting louder, shaky voice, stuttering, mumbling).
* Struggle to listen as their minds are fired up.
* Changing their opinion frequently and playing devils advocate.
* Easily able to manipulate others, watch out for their convincing ways especially when they want something.
* Can come across as judgmental and can make people uncomfortable with this aspect.
Taurus Rising:
* Can be hard to know how they truly feel, they can play off just how emotional they are, closed off.
* Reserved and private, hard to get these people to open up.
* They can tell people what they want to hear, instead of choosing to be honest.
* They can retreat into their own world especially to deal with their emotions, hard to reach.
* If they feel a certain way towards someone they can be stubborn, defensive, and take things personally.
* Can hold a lot of their real feelings in.
Gemini Rising:
* Needs an audience or some form of validation to be talkative and social or they will be quiet.
* A lot of pride over their opinions and perspective.
* They can dish it, but they cannot take it.
* Can struggle to allow others to shine, they want to be the brains, beauty, and more.
* Selectively choosing to engage with those who give their ego a boost.
* Saying things just so people can like them.
* Telling lies.
Cancer Rising:
* Categorizing people into boxes before getting to know them.
* Indirect communication style. ( skimming around topics, avoiding certain conversations, not allowing anyone in, passive aggressive).
* Not being authentic in their communication, saying what they believe the other wants to hear.
* Can become detached and emotionally distant when sorting through their own issues.
* Difficulty expressing their feelings, but can be a therapist for other people.
* Criticizing the way they speak too much, over analyzing their communication.
* Can be a complainer.
Leo Rising:
* Perfectionist about your social image.
* Feeling a sense of importance amongst others that can come off as a superiority complex.
* Easily see the flaws of others, but can have a hard time being forthright and transparent about their flaws.
* Always trying to make everyone happy and feel good, but struggling with their own insecurities.
* Being superficial and caring about outward appearance too much, constant criticizing people’s appearance.
* Have a big ego and feel slighted and personally offended fast.
* Wants to be popular so will people please to fit in with the in crowd.
* Can be avoidant or disappear when issues come up.
* Can gossip about people behind their back.
Virgo Rising:
* Can be detached due to their introspective and analytical nature.
* Withdraw a lot and need a lot of time to themselves to process their experiences.
* Intensely introverted and retreats a lot into their own world.
* Going through extremes of isolated and constantly socializing and talking.
* Either dead silent or chatter box’s.
* Scrutinizing themselves too much so others feel awkward around them.
* If not scrutinizing around others, mentally doing it in a conversation and then feeling the need to be quiet.
* Psychoanalyzing and probing others but get uncomfortable when people do this to them.
* Speaking intensely.
Libra Rising:
* There is an excessive need to appear positive, bordering toxic positivity.
* Head in the clouds
* A tendency to overpromise or overextend theirselves to others.
* An issue with instilling boundaries.
* Do things just to keep the peace.
* Will run away at the sight of any issue or problems.
* Friends with people they outgrew but just keep thinking things will get better.
* Can be naive in conversations.
Scorpio Rising:
* Negative, pessimistic, cynical mindset which can often undermine their communication.
* Chronic complainers.
* Feels restricted in speaking freely. Feels they need to speak when spoken to or with people they are close to.
* Reserved and timid.
* Can have a mindset that nothing matters so can a bit dry responding to people’s issues.
* Or may take on other people’s issues as their own and act like a therapist.
* They can probe and psychoanalyze others but keep a lot of their personality and business hidden.
* Need to have control when communicating with others. Control and power dynamics are apparent in their communication.
* May feel more mature than others, so constantly feeling they have to dumb theirselves down or parent others.
* Can be grammar and pronunciation police.
* Judgmental of how people present themselves. May think everyone should be like them.
* Usually ends up trauma bonding or attracting people who vent a lot of their emotions on them.
Sagittarius Rising:
* Has big ideas that often are not yet accepted or people deem crazy, unrealistic, or wishful.
* Want others to join along their ideas, and may deal with pushback from more conservative individuals.
* Interrupts mid conversation cause they have something they have to just get out.
* Doesn’t listen well when people talk to them about things that aren’t interesting.
* Challenges others beliefs which can come off as personal attacks.
* Detached and insensitive when engrossed in a new idea, project, or interests.
* Unpredictable communication.
* Can have random outbursts or random moments where they are super happy and social.
* High energy which can be overwhelming to some. Talks a lot and then distant.
Capricorn Rising:
* Feeling restricted in communication. Wanting to express themselves freely but feeling that they have to control a lot of what they say.
* A sensitive soul with a hard exterior.
* Finding that people project a lot onto them.
* Feeling you they cant be themselves , so choosing to stay silent.
* Being deceitful or lying.
* Having to hold in a secret that weighs heavy on them.
* Needing someone to stimulate a conversation with them or else they don’t know what to say.
* Unclear on how to assert themselves. May come off passive aggressive.
* Off into their own world, withdrawn from the world.
Aquarius Rising:
* Can come across as less emotional and detached. Can say things bluntly and outright that shock or upset others.
* If someone isn’t being forthright and honest you can become irritated easily.
* Needing space to do their own thing. Can feel smothered by too much interaction.
* Unexpected communication. They might go weeks without talking to someone and then call them.
* On the other hand they can attract abrupt personalities where communication is spontaneous.
* Controversial opinions.
* Some of the ways they talk can be strange or odd.
* Females might carry a masculine theme to them that can intimidate others.
Pisces Rising:
* Withdrawn and uncommunicative.
* These people are sensitive and will retreat if they sense an issue or conflict.
* These people struggle to initiate conversation.
* Stubborn towards other people’s ideas.
* Can lie and fabricate things.
* Masters at deflecting and gaslighting.
* Can rationalize their feelings or at times make it seem their feelings are insignificant. They can also do this others.
* Rose colored glasses and can come across as delusional.
* May refuse to take any criticism.
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Hello this is just to say that I am very interested in that post you mentioned maybe making about indirect communication!
So to define Direct and Indirect communication with a pair of examples real fast:
Direct communication: "Hey, can you do the dishes?" Indirect communication: "There's dishes in the sink." (Please wash them.)
Indirect communication tends to trip a lot of ND, but especially Autistic people up because the implied request in the parentheses... doesn't always come through. So you don't do the dishes, and the Indirect communicator gets frustrated because they thought they had made that request perfectly clearly.
Which, in their defense, they did! ...in their micro-cultural language.
See, the actual purpose of Indirect Communication is to provide some extra verbal personal space and non-aggression measures in micro-cultures where people's personal autonomy has been compromised but there is also a high degree of understood social context.
Hm. That's a weird sentence. Let's try some more examples.
Indirect communication is most common in places or situations where people's ability to stay in their own lane is compromised, but everyone also shares the same base knowledge of what's going on. One example is in large cities, where people are PHYSICALLY up in each other's personal space because they're physically crowded. So cities have etiquette like "Don't make eye contact on public transit unless you actually need to address someone", so that, if people can't stop violating your personal space, they can at least signal non-aggression and give you some privacy. People raised in large cities, or who have lived there for a while all learn these unspoken rules by trial and error, some of us with more errors and trials than others.
Thus, in physically compact situations, "There's dishes in the sink" means "There's dishes in the sink." (I trust that you are already familiar with the social rules that dictate that dishes need to be done, and assume the reason you haven't done them is because you haven't seen the sink yet. I won't insult your intelligence by elaborating on the Do The Dishes Rule, because I know you are smart <3)
Speaking of Privacy, the other place indirect communication is common is in situations where people have Limited Privacy and thus everyone knows what's going on with them, and they know what's going on with everyone else, whether they want to or not. Close-knit families and religious communities often have this shared no-privacy pool, but it can also happen with you and two roommates in a 100sq ft apartment, or on a research vessel in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Since y'all are up in each other's business, indirect communication is there to prevent hostility in close quarters.
This, in a low-privacy situation, "There's dishes in the sink." means "There's dishes in the sink." (I know you are a good and responsible roommate who is maybe a little forgetful, and I trust you to have enough context from living in the live feed of everyone's life to know that I need them done. I won't insult you by suggesting your motivation was malicious in any way, and i trust you to do them <3)
So, to an indirect communicator, that was a perfectly clear request to do the dishes because OF COURSE you'd know what they meant- literally everyone else they deal with is in on this shared knowledge of social rules and daily updates. And not elaborating on that request is an affectionate sign of trust in your competence.
Except, you know. You're not.
So, you try to explain to your indie friend that "There's dishes in the sink." only sounds like an observation, and your brain will not auto-fill in the request like theirs does, so if you want me to do the dishes, just ask with words, okay?
And your indie friend understands this! but then instead of going "Hey, can you do the dishes?" they instead don't say ANYTHING until they're really frustrated with the state of the kitchen, and communicate VERY directly at you, and with great anger.
What happened?
So remember how indirect communication exists to prevent hostility and violence? That's because the threat of hostility and violence is VERY, VERY REAL.
Like you, your indirect communication friend made some mistakes while learning The Unsaid Rules and How To Use The Shared Information Pool, and the social hammer came down on them HARD. Ostracization, ridicule, maybe even actual, psychical harm. So they grew very, very afraid of violating those secret rules, and doubly so with people they like, so your indirect communication friend is facing this HUGE EMOTIONAL BLOCK when it comes to directly communicating with you, because to someone who grew up with their boundaries compromised and the threat of hostility if they violate the communication rules, communicating directly with someone they love feels really, really, really mean and they don't want to hurt or lose you.
For real, "Hey, please do the dishes" sounds like "Hey, please do the dishes." (You fucking moron who doesn't give a shit about our home and probably hates me) to them, and they don't want to talk like that to you. It's like how we never like picking the mean dialogue option in video games.
So instead they... just don't say anything at all, rather than risk a potential confrontation, and then the dishes don't get done and it turns into a REAL confrontation.
What a headache.
So what are we gonna do?
Well, you can't control your friend's actions, emotional reactions or interpersonal skills, but you can manage yours, and you're gonna have to meet them halfway, and it's gonna feel like training a skittish cat that coming out from under the couch is safe. Several-pronged approach:
DO NOT PUNISH BEHAVIOR YOU WANT TO SEE. When your friend does manage to say "Hey, please do the dishes?" don't go "UUUUGH IN A MINUTE." even if you are in the middle of something else and their timing sucks, which is probably does. Stick to either neutral responses ("Cool, let me finish this paragraph and I'll get on that") to positive responses ("Oh, sure! Thanks for letting me know!")
REWARD THE BEHAVIOR YOU WANT TO SEE. -and then actually go do the dishes to demonstrate that this approach not only is safe, it's effective. Also, praise your friend when they do a good job communicating with you. "Hey, thanks for actually asking me to do the dishes, that was really helpful." or "You're doing a great job navigating and giving me directions, this is much less stressful than the GPS" or "Thanks for being honest about how I was annoying you and bringing it up before it became a huge issue." This will kind of feel like you're an actor on sesame street teaching big bird how to say please and thank you, but honestly? that was the age most of us learned our communication skills, and we return to that teaching method because BY GOD IT WORKS.
MODEL THE BEHAVIORS YOU WANT TO SEE. Humans learn by copying, so lead by example with the kind of communication that helps you, and explain why it helps. "Hey friend, a question so I can schedule some stuff- Do you have any plans this weekend I should know about, or am I clear to paint the bathroom?"
This is the one that sucks but YOU GOTTA MEET THEM HALFWAY AND LEARN ABOUT THE CONTEXT POOL. Can't make everyone learn, and Indirect communication has it's uses (especially in modern jobs and social media), so you gotta learn their style too. I literally have a discord server that's just me where I keep notes on the life events and conditions of my friends, coworkers, neighbors and loved ones because I know I won't remember that shit, but they will kind of expect me to, and it's been a lifesaver in both not blundering into social faux pas, and actually getting around my crap memory to know them better. You can also model hybrid communication and practice your indirect skills by using an indirect request opener, but then saying the rest of the implied context aloud: "Hey, there's dishes in the sink. I know you'll do that ASAP because you're cool, I just wanted to make sure you knew they were there and needed to be washed, thanks <3"
Accept that some people aren't gonna change for reasons that are beyond their control and probably have nothing to do with you, and decide what you're willing to invest in learning to deal with them. I still have to play 5D words chess with my mother-in-law, who was raised in a close-physical-space-AND-no-privacy culture and is an excruciatingly anxious indirect communicator as a result. I can't make her go to therapy for the anxiety, and until she does, her ability to communicate effectively probably won't improve. It's got nothing to do with me, even if I'm the person she's most frequently at odds with. As a result, I have extremely limited contact with her. I don't see her for more than a few hours at a time, when we have an activity to do together, and only a handful of times a year. More than that, and I get brainworms by proxy, so for my sanity, I've limited what I am willing to do with her. Maybe your indirect communicator is someone worth effectively learning a second language for, like a lover. Maybe they're someone you can cut out of your life entirely without issue, like a manger at a retail job you can quit. You'll have to decide.
Anyway, that's my raised-bilingual ADHD/Autism Direct/indirect communicator ramble, hope it helps.
#Long post#communication skills#Note: I'm not a therapist#I just live this experience#so take this with a handful of salt#but this has worked for me
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