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chinposan Ā· 3 months ago
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Well, I got this on my feed thanks to the algorithm, so now I kinda feel obliged to reply as an Obikin enjoyer.
I think three important notions of having a ship and let ship mentality is 1. awareness of the fact that we all interpret a body of work differently. Even what is explicitly said in text may be interpreted through storytelling devices like unreliable narrators or by assuming omission. 2. Remembering that the whole point of fandom is finding new angles/creating narratives based on the stories we love. Shipping especially so. And finally, that 3. it's all fictional good fun. Disregard the author, do your what-if's, write a bunch of noncon pwp, crack-ship characters who've never met or whatever.
In my humble opinion, you don't 'ship and let ship' nor are you fandom-friendly on this topic šŸ¤·. I say this because you first claim that your interpretation is more valid than anybody elses by stating that Obikin and Quiobi don't work in-universe without saying why. Then you instead list a bunch your own preferred real-world norms, moral standards and associations as if they apply to others' fictional narratives.
To answer your question "Why can't Obikin be in a familiar relationship, not romantic?" it's because I don't interpret Star Wars the same way you do, I want to explore other kinds of narratives than you do, and I like to have good fun in the fandom we all love, just like you.
The world is a complex place and some of us prefer to explore other scenarios and narratives than those that are normative and entirely expected. For me personally it's because I find those narratives uninspiring.
To go into specifics, which you may not care about, I personally ship obikin as something in between platonic, romantic and familiar that is both intense, complex and blurry - feelings that they themselves don't fully understand or ever get to explore due to Obi-Wans repressed nature and reluctance towards discussing emotions. I see these feelings as existing parallel to Anakin's infatuation with PadmĆØ - you can love more than one person - and for Anakin that's a big narrative theme. This interpretation is based on my reading of the 20 years or so of legends, canon and reference material out there. I enjoy this narrative becasue it enhances the tragedy of Mustafar, as there are extra layers of unresolved emotional tension there when the plot drives our trio into a corner.
I also enjoy jokingly referring to Obikin as endgame in reference to their reunion in the Force that is orchestrated by Obi-Wan while PadmĆ© remains gone. But of course that's up to interpretation like everything else šŸ¤­.
I really canā€™t understand Obikin and Quiobi. For me it tastes as both partially pedophilia and partially incest. Just think of it ā€“ both Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon have known their padawans since kids were 9 and 12 respectively. They were parent figures, literally brought their padawans up. And then ā€“ romance? How can any adult feel romantic towards a person who they remember as a child? Itā€™s not the same situation when people with big age difference meet as grown-ups. Also marriage between step-parents and step-children or adoptive parents and adopted children, although not blood-related, is considered incest.
Ship and let ship, I know, but in-universe these ships just donā€™t work at all ā€“ and thereā€™re a lot of shippers who insist Obikin is endgame and it has always been so. Specifically thanks to Matthew Stover, the author of ROTS novelization, who inserted a lot of ā€˜Obikinā€™ moments which are often translated as a prove of in-universe romance.
And Iā€™m not even mentioning power imbalance of ā€˜teacher-studentā€™ relationship. Why canā€™t Quiobi and Obikin be in ā€˜familiarā€™ relationship, not romantic? After all, Anakin canonically has Padme, and Obi-Wan is shippable with lots of characters without weird pedo stink (including clones, because clones are adult men who grew up faster, not kids in adult bodies).
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selfshipping-haven Ā· 9 months ago
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Okay. I'm gonna be real with you.
Yes, selfshipping should be for you. It should make you happy. You should make things for yourself.
But also, humans are social creatures, right? We like to share things with others and make connections, right?
So why should we look people in the eye, people who get 0 notes and interactions, and tell them that they should be doing all this for themselves, when other people get fanart for their ships?
Would it really kill people to interract more with people they don't know? People who can't draw as well or as constantly, or have less stamina, or just aren't talked to very much? Would that really hurt?
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mukimokai Ā· 1 month ago
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they're married !! šŸ›šŸŒ±
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myuminji Ā· 1 year ago
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[not ship/ not romantic]
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nai who's full of love instead of hatred. Nai who's full of love instead of fear. nai who knows only to love, that all he knows is love. and he hates that it's the only thing he can doā€”loving. being alone. loving. never loved.
and he hates the things that made him love: his love for rem, his love for the plants, his love for his brother. all his life he'd loved and love and love, and he's tired of loving despite never knowing what love is.
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pixlatedvampire Ā· 5 months ago
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Someone come help me kill my ghoul and skeleton so I can have Ragnvaldr and Cahara in my party
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venice-1987 Ā· 2 months ago
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An annoying phenomenon I've noticed
Alternatively: Whatever you do, don't go onto the TDP reddit
(Alternatively, let people ship things)
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solivagantingrebel Ā· 8 months ago
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OKAY SO GHOSTSOAP AND PET NAME THOUGHTS,,
Ghost who just got in a relationship with Soap and is pretty new to dating and being in a committed relationship, he wants to do couple-y things with Soap, and he knows Soap wants more lovey dovey stuff from him but he's somewhat clueless about the whole thing and ends up being way too serious and intense about it.
He gets in this weird conundrum about names - pet names in particular. He wants to give Soap one, and 'Johnny' can definitely count as something similar since he exclusively uses it for him but it's not exactly that. He also does not want to be awkward about the whole thing. Johnny deserves the world and then some, the least he can do is put an effort and be purposeful about it. So, he ends up researching pet names, reading relationship articles, running himself mad trying to figure out what would be perfect; to the point of whispering different pet names out when he's cuddling with Johnny and thinks he's asleep. (he's not - completely that is- soap dismissed that it was real the first few times but after it kept happening, he secretly relishes how cute ghost is being)
It gets to the point that Soap is already casually dropping all these Gaelic pet names for him and he's still stiffly calling him 'Johnny' and nothing else because for the life of him, he can't figure it out. Then, one day, he's just randomly bantering and cuddling with Soap and Johnny says something stupid and he just goes "fucking hell, love" while shaking his head and he freezes a second after because he realises what he said and Johnny's staring at him all wide eyed and shocked, and he's panicking.
Because out of everything, anything, the most basic of pet names slips out. Hell, 'love' is something you can say to a stranger, something you can say to anyone where he's from and it doesn't even-
Johnny's looking at him, blue eyes murky with the slightest hint of tears and yet there's a smile on his lips that's softer than anything he's ever seen. He doesn't even get to think before he's leaning over to grasp Ghost's face tightly to kiss him until they don't have a breath left in their lungs and when they finally pull away, Johnny looks at him like he's holding everything and more between his hands.
(because soap knows ghost, he knows he doesn't say things he doesn't mean and when he said love casually, as if there wasn't a world where he wasn't his love - he knew he meant it wholeheartedly)
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carnivalcarriondiscarded Ā· 1 year ago
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alright ill admit it. popstar is pretty cute
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lethality-of-dual-strike Ā· 8 days ago
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(most of) my favorite fop character sketches to take my mind off of the sense of impending doom
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jupiter--dream Ā· 1 month ago
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So tired of Cream being considered "the vanilla/super wholesome ship" when, yes, it ends like that at one point, but both Dream and Cross are characters who have a hard time seeing their own value past their usefulness, I wish there were more fics exploring the ways their tendency to self-sacrifice would hurt the relationship
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the-sleepless Ā· 10 months ago
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Drew some peskyblaze inspired by @mudboowlā€™s design of tango, and his wonderful artworks!
It was quite fun doing the lighting effects-
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orphicauroras Ā· 3 months ago
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Yep antis got it right. I ship my absolute favorite character with my least favorite batboy simply because I hate Elain. Nope, it has nothing to do with Gwyn feeling comfortable or Azriel feeling settled. It has nothing to do with their banter and chemistry. It's all because I hate the third archeron.
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kay-selfships Ā· 7 months ago
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me clicking ā€œnot interestedā€ on a post about a canon x canon ship involving my f/o knowing full well it doesnā€™t do anything
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lunarbun-ships Ā· 1 year ago
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its not official until i draw sleepy cuddles with my f/os, its a must at this point
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shadowfern Ā· 7 months ago
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they're the funniest rivals to lovers ship as apprentices y'all don't see the vision
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citroncynique Ā· 7 months ago
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My yearly tradition of drawing my Homestuck OTP from 10+ years ago on this religious holiday CONTINUES!! HAPPY 413 YOU FILTHY ANIMALS ā™„
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