#i love problematic ships
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we are gonna have so much silly proship and comship stuff and puritans are gonna have a fucking aneurysm
you’re laughing. everybody has come back to tumblr bc every other social media site is breaking just as homestuck comes back, david tennant comes back to doctor who, news is conveyed via canon destiel meme, and a show about MCU loki is airing, in a full revival of the 2012 tumblr era, and you’re laughing.
#sunny yelling at u#proship positivity#proship#anti anti#anti proshitter#problematic ships#i love problematic ships#they are fun to me#fiction ≠ irl#pro fiction#pro kink#pro selfship#self ship#f/o community#anti puritan#anti purity culture#puriteens
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Beetlejuice in the first movie: I want to get back to the land of the living to terrorize humanity in any way that I can, this weird goth girl is just a means to an end
Beetlejuice in the sequel, who keeps a framed picture of Lydia on his desk: It has been thirty years since I've seen my wife Lydia Deetz, the love of my life, my one and only, my other half, the only woman I’ve ever truly loved, my—
#he’s delusional and in love and we love him for it#we ship problematic pairings here sir#my headcanon is that they’ll find each other in the afterlife when lydia dies#until then all he can do is pine#beetlejuice#beetlejuice beetlejuice#beetlejuice beetlejuice spoilers#beetlejuice x lydia#beetlebabes#I think that’s their ship name
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#I don't ship incest stuff because I like it but because I am just interested in the outcome#See?!#This was my first thought when I made the meme#I LOVE problematic ships#But never got to look into them#I used to lightly ship Reiji and Shu#Not anymore because Shuuma and ReijiRuki came into my view#talk#tw incest mention
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Okay literally no one asked but as a former Hobbit movie hater who has since experienced character growth, I feel compelled to share my thoughts on the movies on my gay little blog.
Listen. There are legit reasons to be critical of these movies. They were made on a rushed timeline, at time where CGI overuse was the thing and there are definitely unnecessary moments. But despite those issues, these movies still have a lot of heart and character and some really wonderful acting! To compare them to LOTR, is unfair I think because LOTR was such an unimaginable success and I truly believe no other movie franchise can do what those movies did. To expect the Hobbit movies to be the same caliber considering the behind the scenes drama and massive difference in timeline is just not it.
Truly I think that the Hobbit could have been much more than it was and it’s sad to see the amazing moments and realize that we could have had movies that were maybe closer to the level of LOTR, but that doesn’t take away from all of the great things that the movies gave us! Despite what he may be like irl, Martin Freeman was a great young Bilbo, Richard Armitage was insanely good as Thorin (despite the change in age) and the other dwarf actors brought a great sense of loyalty, brotherhood and shared loss to their roles. The music is still dope as hell and there are some beautiful shots despite all the CGI.
This is way too long and I’ve not said anything that hasn’t been said before but honestly, I’m so glad that I stopped hating on these movies and have seen the special things about them. Nothing will ever compare to LOTR, but that doesn’t make these movies bad. They’re fun, they’re emotional, they have great characterization and it’s super valid to enjoy them.
Final gay thoughts because I’m obligated, but I struggle with people who argue against Bagginshield with the whole “why does everyone have to make everything gay?” thing. Because Hollywood is so deeply homophobic that we see so little genuine queer representation, so forgive us for enjoying the chemistry we find and making it our own since our society gives us breadcrumbs. If you’re not into Bagginshield, totally legit and fine, but don’t hate on other people (especially queer people) trying to find some romantic love in media that we enjoy. Also no one can convince me that Richard Armitage wasn’t at least somewhat intentionally putting his queer energy into this role, I will die on this hill.
Anyway, TL;DR there’s no shame in liking or loving the Hobbit movies despite their faults and there are lots of things to appreciate and enjoy and I for one, am glad to leave my LOTR purist hater days behind me
#the hobbit#the hobbit movies#thorin oakenshield#bilbo baggins#bagginshield#lotr#I will die on this hill#as a reformed hater#I know no one cares but what is my gay blog for if not to rant about my own takes#let people enjoy things you haters#like I love LOTR more than anything in the world and I know the Hobbit movies weren’t as good but still#they are so enjoyable and I refuse to be a hater anymore#and that’s on GROWTH#life is so much more fun when you enjoy things#okay sorry another tag but it has to be said#someone shipping characters together doesn’t take away from anyone else’s desire to see those characters in a platonic way#like as long as it’s not a clearly problematic ship just leave people alone#like damn we can enjoy things in different ways and no one has to be right#I also love the argument of NO THESE CHARACTERS ARE STRAIGHT#like oh? was that explicitly said? no? well then let people interpret how they will#let’s stop assuming everything is always straight
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Hello Beetlejuice fandom, im new
I have two questions and one confession:
1. Is Betelgeuse’s nickname really ‘BJ’? 💀
2. Am I the only one who genuinely finds this weirdo attractive?
And 3. I actually only saw the first Beetlejuice one time when I was like 8 and I remember hating it but now I’ve seen Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and i am madly in love with a moldy demon.
#please accept me#I need new beetlejuice friends#new to fandom#i am so down bad for this man#and for beetlebabes#like what#we love problematic ships#beetlejuice#beetlebabes#beetlejuice 2#beetlejuice beetlejuice
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I can’t stop- I love these two so much they make me so mad
another quinobi work in progress. starting to see a trend yet?
Im not 100% happy w their faces yet, and obv quinlan is missing his whole lower half, but hey that’s a problem for future me
#obi wan x quinlan#quinobi#quinlan vos#obi wan kenobi#obi wan star wars#young obi wan#young quinlan vos#padawan obi wan#dumbasses (affectionate)#i love them#obi wan would throw quinlan off a cliff#or kiss him#depends on the day#genuinely quinobi is probably one of the least uh#problematic obiwan ships#im not gonna elaborate further#starwars fanart#wip#this is still a work in progress
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posessive old man save me
save me
save me possessive old man
#never normal about them thx#whats he doin huh? whys he sniffin that little bisexual boy??#pompous pep#pompep#danny fenton#danny phantom#vlad masters#vlad x danny#danny x vlad#yippee i love problematic ship mmm delicious flavor#jelly art
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just saw someone on a self shipping post say to not use the word "obsessed" to describe their feelings for their f/o bc it's harmful to those with ocd and as someone with severe ocd please shut the fuck up and go outside oh my god
#tbh this is why i dont interact with the selfship community that often bc so many of you need to touch grass#like im serious#i love self shipping dgmw but holy fuck some of you its like walking on eggshells#'dni if you ship with abusers or problematic characters!!!' like huh???? wha??????#im no proshipper like i dont like p*dos either but#not wanting people that ship with villains is like.#... youre blocking out like a huge chunk of the community babe#the purity culture in the selfship community is something else
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Top ten SFTH character couples
(in my biased opinion)
Okay, first of all I’m so sorry to anyone who followed me for anything other than Shoot from the Hip content; I swear I’ll put in more variety. Someday. (Also go check out Shoot from the Hip.) Second of all, I did not join Tumblr with the intention of making a bunch of lists, but they’re fun to write and people seem to enjoy them, so here goes.
10. Justin x the Beetroots MC (headcanon)
Listen, I do NOT condone the whole “if they’re bullying you, that means they like you” bullshit. That being said, years and years later, after both of them have grown as people, I think they could have a really sweet relationship, at least after they work through everything.
9. André Beetroot x Xavier (canon, somehow)
I kind of ship this in a joking way, but also kind of not? They make sense together in a really weird, fucked-up way, and I’m so here for it. (I cannot believe that they’ve canonically hooked up. Multiple times. I love AJ so much for giving us this.)
8. Andrew x Nigel (headcanon)
It’s so toxic. It’s so toxic, and I know that, and it would never be okay in real life, but some dark part of me is really fascinated by the possibilities. (I cannot emphasise enough how much I am intrigued by this in FICTION ONLY.)
7. Jack and Jackie (canon)
Complete turnaround from the last two, but these two are genuinely so sweet. I honestly don’t even have much to say about them, but I love them. So much.
6. François x Mimi (canon)
They are so toxic. They’re horrible people, and they only make each other worse. And I love it. (You know, making this list did make me worry about my mental health slightly. Just slightly.)
5. Toby x the meth wife (canon)
First of all, this is the gayest straight-presenting relationship I’ve ever seen, and I love it. (I totally headcanon them both as bi/pan/queer/etc., but that’s not the point of this post.) And honestly, they’re so supportive of each other. They’re, like, genuinely a healthy couple (in a SFTH play? Can you imagine?). They have so much love for each other, and I could talk about them all day, but I’m fairly sure no one needs that, so I’ll stop.
4. Andrews x Betruva (headcanon)
Listen, I might be a little biased because they’re new, but they kind of have everything I look for in a ship. They have millennia of history, which is always a good start. They’re ancient nemeses. They founded a church named after them both???? Honestly how much more gay can you get?
3. Esmerelda x the vampire slayer (canon)
I like to imagine that Esmeralda survived, and they fall in love, and they have to work through the trauma of the slayer (I think I saw the fanon name Samantha? But I’m not sure) trying to kill Esmeralda. There’s just so much angst potential, and oh, now I want to write a fanfic.
2. Bubba x Jeramiah (canon)
They’re a fucking classic, okay, and they’re a classic for a reason. They are the best gay cowboys, and I love them so much. I know I should have more to say, but I feel like it would just be incoherent screaming.
1. Derek x Titch (canon)
Listen, who else could it be? They are so fundamentally amazing. It’s a classic case of “he fell first, he fell harder” (even if we don’t get to see a lot of the “he fell harder” part, I believe it with all my heart). I love Titch working though his issues and learning to open up, and I love Derek being so helplessly in love with him. I love them so much, and they deserve the top spot.
#again I realise that some of these are problematic ships#and I like them in FICTION and that’s it#I just want to make that very very clear#but yeah#I love making lists#so much#shoot from the hip#sfth
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Hey guys did you know I like Royalrabbit- /silly
#art#tadc#tadc fanart#the amazing digital circus#the amazing digital circus fanart#digital circus#digital circus fanart#tadc kinger#kinger tadc#kinger#kinger the amazing digital circus#digital circus kinger#tadc jax#jax tadc#jax#jax the amazing digital circus#digital circus jax#jax the rabbit#trans jax#royalrabbit#kinger x jax#jax x kinger#i love these two so much their ship dynamic is so cute#im also so happy i keep inspiring people to make art for this ship#it genuinely makes me so happy since i've loved this ship for MONTHS now and only recently became very vocal about it#something something a lot of the fandom considered it controversial and problematic and whatever#sorry the paper drawings arent greatly lit im not great with lighting#anyways i need to draw them a lot more#the sillies ever
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Look people can discourse about how problematic a ship is and how terrible people are for shipping it all they want, but the reasons they try and assign for shipping something are usually pretty ridiculous. The only actual point of discrimination on whether or not I’m gonna ship a pairing is just how narratively compelling the character dynamic is. Do they play off each in an interesting way? Is there some good narrative symbolism involved?? I’m there.
Yes that does mean I’m often a basic bitch and end up enjoying whichever slash and femslash ships are popular BUT there’s usually a reason why a bunch of writers have gotten into something! Tbh! Shit being popular doesn’t mean it’s bad, stuff usually pops off for A reason, regardless of it’s a reason you personally agree with.
#once again the exception is x*cheng I’m so sorry I’m saying it once again but it’s true#that’s pure pair the spares there’s nothing that narratively interesting to work off of#they barely interact in the story#I’m happy some people enjoy it but it’s very uninteresting to me#let’s see guess I’ll tag a few ships I’ve seen people complain about for being too popular and/or problematic#zosan#people are mad about that one all the time but I’m sorry I love rivalry ships and actually im not sorry#labru#people are also as ever mad about that one but they just work so well post canon#ugh just remembered I still keep seeing Takes on#catradora#oh and of course most of the ships in the locked tomb. take your pick#lawlu#shipping#shipping discourse#fandom#Caitie speaks
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Well you see they're just very good friends
#vtm#vtmb#vampire the masquerade#oc.pepper#oc.vince#technically not their first kiss but kind of their first kiss#first fr fr kiss#their actual first kiss is during italian dinner to keep up appearences bc they're posing as a couple#but their first like 'I am kissing you bc I want to and btw I'm in love w you' kiss is in the luckee star#after pepper talks to nines#it's funny to me bc they weren't in the best of terms before this#vince was kinda mad at pepper bc she almost bloodbound him while frenzied and she'd been frenzying on purpose and just generally#being rlly irresponsible#she's sorry tho. she's very very sorry and trying to do better#but like he just puts that aside bc of the bloodhunt and how worried he is abt her#and he shows up and they have a good talk and the feelings come out and etc etc and then kiss#kiss kiss smooch smooch. they love each other v much#vincent is still worried abt pepper's behavior but what can he do. she's his problematic fave 🤷🏻♀️#ship: viper#sleepyscribble#viper art
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"This fanfic is disgusting!"
Bitch, nobody Clockwork Orange'd you into reading it.
#THE TAGS ARE RIGHT THERE#archive of our own#pro-fiction#problematic fanfiction#pro-kink#purity culture#pro-ship#proship please interact#anti anti#antis dni#a clockwork orange#I love ao3#anti harassment#tw: torture
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"a victim should never be shipped with the person who tortured them even if it's ""fanon"" and written as a normal relationship" I'm BEGGING people to PLEASE stop treating fictional characters like they are real people, that's so fucking embarrassing
"I don't care what people ship as long as it's not problematic" OHH MY GODD SHUT UPP
#i love henry but hes not a real fucking person he doesn't have any rights#fiction can be as problematic as you want because its FICTION#some ships irk me so i just ignore or block them but i dont act like a fucking baby online#fucks sake#henry creel#tagging just so everyone who thinks like that will do me the favor of blocking me#the only post ill make about this
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JANET GAYNOR and GEORGE O'BRIEN as The Wife & The Man
SUNRISE: A SONG OF TWO HUMANS (1927) dir. F.W. Murnau
#me: i need to stop with problematic ships so let's watch a 1920s romance#me 2 hours later: they are soooo problematic I LOVE THEM HERE A GIFSET#sunrise#sunrise a song of two humans#classicfilmsource#classicfilmblr#classicfilmedit#oldhollywoodedit#filmgifs#fyeahmovies#moviegifs#filmedit#cinemapix#mumbledit#movieedit#perioddramaedit#George O'Brien#Janet Gaynor#F.W. Murnau#sunrise: a song of two humans#silent film
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People still making posts about how reylo is '100%' just people who want to self-insert to fuck the 'bad boy' in the Year of Our Lord 2024.
When will I know peace.
#when will people actually watch the movies are realise reylo is the fucking plot?#Rey's arc cannot be separated from her feelings for Ben you fools you clowns#he and their connection drive her character development#when she stares mesmerised and speechless at his pretty face and pretty hair#when she shipped herself to him with her mascara on#when she batted her eyes and made pouty lips while promising to save him#and when she kissed him on the mouth for ten full seconds#these were subtle hints that she likes him actually#I came across a post where a bunch of smug assholes were pontificating about how all of the ~problematic~~~ gothic b&tb ships were#dumb fangirls who don't understand they can/are too cowardly to self insert#do you ever get so annoyed you want to set yourself on fire#love how they're wrong about Rey about Ben and about shippers all at the same time#skill
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