#i love kevin and all his lines tbh

[herlade]

[jeanmoreautemple]

Thoughts on Kevin or your favorite things about his character and relationship with others ?

Hiii

I like Kevin a lot as a character, as of now he’s the most complex out of the cast and he has the most interesting relationship dynamics with Andrew, Neil, Jean and (ugh) Riko. I actually wasn’t crazy about him until TSC tbh. Seeing him through Jean’s eyes was a revelation: his tender, kind gestures to Jean mean the world to me. How he was this kind in the nest while being Riko’s brother? A miracle.

Right now I’m most intrigued (and afraid to learn more) about his relationship with Jean at the nest. How much exactly did he know about what Riko was doing to Jean, if the “if we were ever friends” line means that at some point they had fall out and when did it happen, does he know about Elodie? Will Nora have them talk about the nest in the next books? I’m scared.

I also like his relationship with Wymack (even though Wymack didn’t handle him well at times) and I wish Kevin talked more about his mom too, like, they lived together until he was 12. Does he have pictures of her? Where did they live? I think they were kinda rich. Also— how exactly did him and Jeremy become friends?

Something about him that makes me sad is how he hasn’t made any supportive and attentive relationships since leaving the nest? I used to think that’s not what he needs but seeing him in TSC made me realize he’s a deeply emotional person. But right now he doesn’t have anyone who really treats him gently and comforts him, even though he’s had quite a few panic attacks throughout the trilogy (they just give him alcohol!) Andrew, Neil and Wymack more or less all give him tough love (Wymack is more soft with him but— the alcohol!!) and Thea is playing pro miles away. I guess there’s Abby but we don’t her much.

[codename-adler]

hello adler!! if you're still doing the character asks, my love my life jeremy knox please :)

-@you-know-i-get-itt

of course sweetpea 🌸

How I feel about this character

for a loooooong while i simply liked him because of Jean, because he was basically a pretty vase i could fill up with whatever flowers of personality i felt like. now with the TSC trilogy, haha! he's got a little sour taste and i can't say i'm mad about it! he intrigues me SO MUCH. also i don't trust him :)

All the people I ship romantically with this character

Jean - Kevin - Jean & Kevin - Neil - Andrew - Neil & Andrew - Aaron - Jean & Aaron - Kevin/Neil/Andrew/Jean - Stuart - now that's enough

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Andrew 😈

My unpopular opinion about this character

i don't! trust! him! not rn. not with Jean in the balance. and i will gladly eat my words when he is proven innocent-ish, i will, i promise, but for now i am keeping a respectful distance. i'm really scared, tbh. and he could have killed someone, and it wouldn't matter to me. it's how he handles things... the situation with Lucas? he's the Cap, he's supposed to be better, no? maybe i have to high a standard thanks too Danielle Leigh Wilds, but i still have that pill stuck in my throat. idk i was not impressed. for both the Trojans' and Jean's sake, he's gotta be more observant, available and rigorous. imo. nobody kill me...

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon

god so many possibilities... i know it's not going to happen, i know it doesn't line up, but if Seth could somehow have been his brother... it would hurt so good

[billiessillywife]

HI BABIES

since i’m really lovin this app and i have hella free time till i get back to university i wanna do a lil get to know me so that u guys can GET TO KNOW ME LMAO okay yeah!!! ENJOY MY LOVES

music

okay so first uppp i’m a huuuuuuuge music lover i love love music i literally have my airpods on 24/7

so my top artists

billie ofc my fav songs

male fantasy

halley’s comet

listen before i go

hostage ( js started listening to it)

literally all of hmhas cause it’s perfect

and everybody dies

YOU POWER and again all of happier than ever cause billie is a genius and js amazing

brent faiyaz / sonder

IM A HUUUGE RNB GIRLIE makes me feel like sexy masc ish😭

so my favs are

break you off sonder

one might only sonder

FAST SONDER ( this one is gold)

natural release brent ( so so good)

dsn brent ( this one too has this slow and backseat vibe pls listen to it )

poison brent

clouded brent

taylor swift

da queen i’ve grown to love her music i used to think it’s cringy but i acc love it

my favs are

lavender haze

gold rush

my tears ricochet

and all of folklore cause my heart is yearning💔

widest dreams and cruel summer ( they give me 2 teens in love romance movie i love it)

gracie abrams

my girl i love her sm

my favs

full machine ( been on repeat lately )

fault line

camden ( so good i cry everytime )

mess it up

us ft taylor

i miss you i’m sorry and i love you i’m sorry

stay

reneè rapp

our no media training queen

she’s so baby and i love her songs

my favs

in the kitchen

tattoos

dont tell my mum

i do

the wedding song

partynextdoor

again rnb masc vibe

my favs ( this a long one i love him)

west district

tbh

welcome to the party

sex on the beach

her way

east liberty

1942

joy

recognize ft drake

the news

savage anthem

many others literally i can’t name them all

now honorable mentions

2 am and miles sza so good

also her new album perfect

summer walker ( session 32 and playing games ft partynexdoor)

nobody but you ( jorja smith and sonder)

the zone and crew love ( drake and the weekend)

montreal , the party & the after party, wicked games ( the weekend)

let her go, prblms, pretty little fears ( 6lack)

kevin’s heart, she’s mine p1 and p2 ( best to listen together) , dejavu and wet dreamz ( jcole)

valentina , best part, loose, hold me down, death and taxes, get you , blessed and we find love daniel caesar

love you better, extra , puffin on zootiz ( future)

earned it ( the weeknd)

luther ( kendrick lamar and sza) also all the stars and pray for me

vibez, still got time , dusk till dawn, pillowtalk ( zayn)

mirror on the wall , my favorite part , the weekend

( mac miller)

onto movies

i’m a big rom com girly

i love interstellar ( watched it and couldn’t understand it then watched it again and i fell in love)

10 thing i hate about you

how to loose a guy 10 days

the wedding planner

i love horrors too

i love writing poems i try to do them sometimes i feel like my words dont make sense but i love it

i love reading too

i’m a psychology girl ( my major too)

i’m a huge introvert yet i yapp my ass off with the right people

i’m a soccer girl

OH and any adele song plus yebbas heart break ( drake) and TEMS ANY TEMS SONG ( found ft brent priceless)

AND YEAH GUYS

so this is my amazing get to know me

i love you guys

i might do a face reveal idk ( my overthinking gnna def eat my ass)

fine i’ll give it to u guys js cause i love you😏

[radio-star8]

do you have any headcanons about the alternate bens like Mad, Bad, Zarro, etc? I'd love to hear them if you have any 😭😭

SRRY THIS TOOK SO LONG FOR ME TO ANSWER I FORGOT ABOUT TBH PLEASE FORGIVE ME 🙏

Anyways here's a shit ton of headcanons and storylines

Bad Ben:

Story stuff--

His grandpa Max is not gone, just evil

Instead of the plumbers being intergalactic peacekeeping organization they are a anti-alien army set on separating Earth from other alien species.

Grandpa Max instills this idea that aliens are all bad into Ben and Gwen's head from a very young age

Grandpa Max adopted Ben into the plumbers organization way earlier. So he's kind of an alien butt kicking machine.

He's not a celebrity like Ben 23 but everybody knows who he is, He's seen as Earth's protector but not a hero.

He finds out that he's a quarter Anodite around the same time as Gwen (15). Well Gwen embraces her alien origin Ben is pissed and feels betrayed.

He decides to work with a different faction of the plumbers to separate himself from Grandpa Max

This faction works more with infiltrations rather than first line responders (if that makes sense)

Ben would currently be working on how to get rid of Gwen, Kevin, and the rest of the plumber kids including Argit who are seen as illegal aliens and are basically on the run.

Ben hides the fact that Gwen is his cousin and that he is a quarter and  Anodite. Cuz if it ever got out it would ruin his rep.

Personal--

I think he's super self-absorbed he'll take an extra few seconds just to look at himself in the mirror and sigh dramatically

He has a dog named Buster (or something stupid like that)

As mentioned Buster is the only living thing he actually seems to like.

Doesn't name his aliens

His favorite animals are dogs or sharks

He thinks he's funny and that he has really good one liners but he actually kind of sucks at it

He seems like the type of guy to have a TikTok page centered around thirst trap POVs

He's actually not the goalie on his soccer team

I think instead of a smoothie guy he's more of a shake enjoyer

Same goes for chili fries... He probably eaten animal style fries from In-N-Out or something 🙏

He definitely litters

Grinds his teeth while he's sleeping

Would definitely ask for the manager

Physical--

Negative Ben:

Storyline--

His Grandpa Max is alive and well. There's no such thing as the plumbers but there is an task force specifically for alien activity which he is part of.

Aliens are not very common on Earth whatsoever and Earth never becomes a open planet. There's no undertown or anything like that.

Ben got the Omnitrix way younger I'd say around 7-8

At first he wanted to be a hero and use it for good but when immediate success didn't follow he gave up

They did not go on a giant summer road trip, the escape pod crashed in Grandpa Max's backyard or something like that

Grandpa Max is very bitter that he never got the chance to have the Omnitrix and Ben knows this very well.

As for Gwen she's never had an interest in the alien shenanigans and is more focused on normal life. She pretends to be dumber than she actually is secretly practicing magic with her friend Hope (aka negative charmcaster)

I think Gwen would be besties with Michael Morningstar and is dating Kevin who's this beach blonde jock.

Kevin is not a mutant in this timeline. Gwen basically uses him for money and to look cool. (We love toxic gwevin)

Ben has no ambitions in life and rarely ever uses the Omnitrix for anything. Since Earth is a closed off planet he kind of has no need.

His azimuth is dead and vilgax seems to not be in this timeline either

I think Ben is a super toxic person he reminds me of the sad boy flop version of Nicole from class of '09 if that makes sense

I think he has a super toxic relationship with Julie and then goes on to date Kai who in this timeline is a celebrity (she's a famous singer) the second him and julie break up. I think he would probably cheat on Kai with Hope (she's the same age as Gwen and Ben in this timeline)

Since they both got played they would leave his ass and he would be alone forever (possibly some toxic benrook, or bevin action)

In an effort to rehabilitate Rook and Ben both Grandpa Max teams them up to run missions and whatnot.

In this timeline Rook is a con artist, he is  ostracized from his home planet. (His parents hate him lol). And in an effort to not go to jail he agrees with Grandpa Max to team up with Ben.

I believe this Ben also has an Albedo who is super happy-go-lucky and was a big fan of azimuth and really wants to get to know Ben who is just not having it.

Personal--

He is definitely incel

He room is so messy you can't see the floor

He names his aliens really stupid stuff like "nightstalker"

Only uses aliens that he thinks are cool

Favorite animals are cats or wolves

He really likes horror movies (favorite yt channel is probably dead meat)

He spends most of his time drawing anime characters or something like that

Favorite genre of anime is harem animes

he will verbally insult you but if you even dare say that he looks kind of funny he'll start crying

Has like 3,000 followers on Twitter

He's very scared of spiders

He's definitely the type to laugh at you for being uncomfortable around bloody or gory scenes.

"it's fake, besides it's not even that scary... I could probably do way worse"

I think he says edgy stuff like that all the time

Lives on monster energy and coffee

Physical--

This is a lot cuz I really like Negative Ben idk he has a hold on me anyway...

Benzarro:

Storyline--

I think Ben had the spark as well as Gwen so they both were super into magic.

I also like to believe that Earth is more of a magic realm than it is a planet.

I think the virus that turned Ben into a zombie was not in undead thingy but more of a mana absorbing parasite.

Ben is still alive but has been reduced to Benzarro

I think before the apocalypse Ben and Kevin were really close (possibly dating) so when Ben started to get sick this caused Kevin to completely shut down and run away

Ben and Gwen were also way closer in this timeline than they normally are. So it explains why she would devote her life to a cure and assisting Dr. Animo.

Ben is also patient zero most likely because the Omnitrix not only carried dna of multiple aliens but also a parasite.

this also means that Ben got the Omnitrix way later I'd say around 14-15

as for Grandpa Max and the plumbers I don't think that there is really a need for them but I do believe that Grandpa Max was still there before the apocalypse trying to train Ben the best he could.

I feel like Grandpa Max doesn't have a very good connection with his grandkids on like Grandma Verdona who decided to stay on earth and train her grandkids.

Obviously she fleas the planet after the plague starts to take over and Grandpa Max is missing

As for the state of Kevin: he is camped out in some cabin in the forest trying to survive the best he can. He lives with Cooper who is basically his best friend through all of this.

I think Kevin is a full mutant in this (I'm using the rooters retcon for this) him as well as Cooper our immune to the virus since they have no magic spark. (They're basically the cure)

Personal--

He's very popular around school and stuff.

Definitely the golden child of the family

The names of all aliens end with "y/ie"

So like. "Goopie" "Shiny" "Helpie"

Favorite animals are horses

Before he gets infected he'd probably be the type to say that everybody's overreacting and that he doesn't need to wear a mask cuz he's built different... he's got magic and stuff

I think he's zones out a lot

As a zombie he gets lots of weird food cravings

Has tried to eat the other bens

He still remembers everything before he was infected but the parasite has basically made his brain mush

He still remembers Gwen and Kevin very fondly

Contrary to popular belief his favorite color is yellow

Physical--

cw blood

Mad Ben:

Storyline--

I haven't exactly figured out what caused the a post-apocalyptic landscape that mad lives in but I think it would have something to do with a plumber war that caused a possible nuclear (???) fallout

when Ben first finds the Omnitrix he's traveling with Grandpa Max and Gwen. They're kind of aimlessly roaming the desert in search of civilization.

The Omnitrix was in Plummer custody before everything kind of exploded and was just found in an abandoned building by Ben

Grandpa Max is extremely sick and ends up leaving Gwen and Ben so he can go pass on without them having to see.

they later get separated as Gwen is picked up by Verdona.

Leaving then to fend for himself for a little bit. 

Maltruant comes along and leads Ben him to Bellwood (or what's left of it)

him and vilgax then train Ben. I like to think the conditions are tough like Ben still has to hunt for his own food and fend for himself. As well as the fact that he probably gets punished for doing stuff wrong

Side note the vilgax the trains mad Ben is mad vilgax so when he is taken to go fight in the ben war he meets prime vilgax and thinks he's hella cool.

Mad Vilgax is a militant kind of commander who Maltruant specifically tracks down to train Ben and afterwards Vilgax dips

Rook kind of just arrives one day. He is badly injured and Ben kind of takes him in. They're both like 12 or 13 at this point

Ben and Rook develop a friendship until Ben is offered the position to start digging for pieces of maltruant

he starts to yell and get angry at Rook and basically is super toxic.

basically after the two part episode in Omniverse Ben goes a little stir crazy in jail and with the help of Dr Psychobos breaks out.

He runs away to try and find Gwen who at this point is very infamous.

there is an entire cult surrounding her as her followers believe that she has the divine power to save them and bring them to salvation.

this is obviously because she is an anodite. When Verdona took her she led her to the cult and basically made her their new center of worship.

anyways the reason why he's trying to find Gwen is because he knows she's magical and in his stupid little brain that means that she can bring him to Maltruant

he would probably take Kevin hostage (somehow idk that man's a tank) leading gwen to confront him and they would have a big fight

Rook has also been looking for Ben this whole time

Personal--

He has a really bad anger issues that he's had since he was a child

Stiles his hair with motor grease

His favorite animals are hawks

Doesn't name his aliens

He skilled in many different fighting styles so is still versatile even without his omnitrix

The only reason why he has a newer omnitrix is because azimuth is a cruel bitch and gave it to him

Ben sees at azimuth as a god

Ben is the only person in Bellwood to have a mattress and a bed frame

Bro definitely has scurvy

Definitely snores

If he ever tried chili fries he'd probably throw up

His vest used to be a jacket he wore as a kid but he ripped off the sleeves to make it cool

Definitely would wear his dirty shoes around the house.

Most definitely would wear his dirty shoes on the couch

Physical--

Okay that's it sorry it was so long I just really like yeppin if you guys have any more requests about anything feel free to ask. Hopefully I won't forget about it next time 🙏

[tiny-planet-13]

no bc when I read aftg for the first time like at age thirteen or something like that I genuinely had no clue who Neil was supposed to be paired with in this series like literally going into it all I knew was gay mafia sports and it genuinely shocked me that it ended up being Andrew lmfaoo. idk who I thought it would be tbh, perhaps Kevin?, but yea like I didn't twig it was Andrew until this exact line and I remember being like oh my god this makes so much sense how have I been this dense lmaoo

also just reading this scene now makes me scream I love unfiltered Neil being his best snarky sarcastic self and I love seeing Andrew's loyalty

[akuma74]

Since I saw many people complaining about Ace Attorney name change or something and that I have way too much time on my hand I present you:

Me showing you the name change in the french version and then re-translating them back to english so you can see the difference in word-play, edition 1 on the first game.

(All characters that are not mentionned are the one who don't have a name change or those that I don't care enough to remember their existence and even less their names, so don't ask me about them)

Now let's get started:

Main:

Miles Edgeworth: Benjamin Hunter, no wordplay here they just changed his name so he wouldn't be too hard to pronounce and remember for french kids. I hate it and love it at the same time.

Dick Gumshoe: Dick Tektiv, wordplay on "détective" which is kind of work but also not since in french this word is almost exclusively use for private detective, not cops.

First Turnabout:

Larry Butz: Paul Defès, wordplay with "poil de fesse" litterally "butt's hair", appropriate and that guy doesn't deserve a better name.

Winston Payne: Victor Boulay, play on "boulet" which is use to describe someone that is so bad and who screw up so much that they're a burden. Kind of like it better than the english one tbh

Frank Sahwit: Frank Khavu, play on "qu'à vu" litterally "saw it".

Second Turnabout:

Marvin Grossberg: Samuel Rosenberg, apparently no word play or joke here. But some people think that giving a name of jewish origin specifically to the corrupt lawyer may be based on anti-semitic stereotype.

April May: Marsha Vrill, play on "Mars-Avril" litterally "March-April".

Third Turnabout:

Wendy Oldbag: Flavie Eïchouette, play on "vieille chouette" a pejorative way to call an older woman which litterally mean "old owl".

Will Powers: Gustavo Lonté, play on "volonté" which is just "will", boring.

Cody Hackins: Kevin Miron, the joke is the name Kevin that's it. But to be more precise at the time the first game was released in France "Kevin" was internet slang who was kind of an insult toward kids spending way too much time online or others immature people lurking in the internet.

Fourth Turnabout:

Lotta Hart: Eva Cozésouci, play on "elle va causer des soucis" meaning "she is going to be trouble", which I find kind of more appropriate. Also not name related but they changed her "southern country accents" by a "Marseille accent" a southern french city whose accent is often mocked. Find it funny that If they're is one thing 'Murican and French share is their love of making fun of southern accents.

Fifth Turnabout:

Mike Meekins: Bill Ballaud, play on "ballot" which mean someone dumb and quite clumsy

Damon Gaunt, Jake Marshall and Angel Starr: useless name change that annoy me, in order: Damien, Alex and Angélique.

Also bonus the blue badger become "le lutin bleu" which in english is something along the line of "blue elf".

I let you decide if this is better or worse...

and if I do that for the rest of the games.

[ferfbish]

What your spooky month pfp says about you!

all my muts @mayisgoingnuts @bulldog-geckorahhhhh @candyclazzyashton @0pumpkinpie @lolipoptheclown @roy-shenanigans whoooo!

(note im not a expert on people and why they like things so if you cant relate to some of these go talk to god or something idk) (one more thing no images cuz my computer sucks and it takes forever)

kevin: overworked, overstimulated, underpaid, GAY next

skid: you are a being of complete destruction for no reason other than ''I can and I will'' and the ADHD of the two.

pump: you also are a being of conplete destruction for no reason other than ''I can and I will" you also dont have autism you have ''awwwtisum''.

happy fella: you took that ''imma little trash rat'' to heart and i love you for that.

bob: you either like him cuz hes you energy or your that ''i wanna fuck your beekeeping dad" meme.

lila: you are the mom of the group or you wish your mom was like her.

father gregor: im forced to think your also a gf fan cuz ant no way your not a MASSIVE yoai shipper also 85% chance your a mad gilf lover.

skids dad: you prob started a cult on discord when you were 12 for funnsies.

moluch: you kin him cuz you got mad anger issues you also are that ''i eat kids'' meme.

roy: your 90% of sm fans you most definitely got that cartman swagg and im willing to bet you say something like ''i will cry scream and through up in that order if xyandz doesn't happen'' same babe same.

ross: you took the one guy with the least voice lines out of anybody and went like ''i love him i love him so much''.

robert: your cool and better than them all. * cough cough awwwtisum

streber: ok i went over this list like 30 times in my head and all i could think is yaoi shipper cuz like he looks cool, he likes Halloween, hes gay and he got de armed those first three things ARE LITTERLY ALL OF US.

frank: stop now bad no STOP SIMMPING HE KIDNAPPS CHILDREN BAD NO.

the clown: clownergy.

john: yaoi shipper but depressed.

jack: basic sorry.

dexter: dog person, autistic.

patty: depressed also youd be like the bill has a gun meme if you had a gun. *cough cough lesbian

candy dealer: you dissapoint me like HES JUST A FUCKING HAT YOU ARE SIMPING FOR A FUCKING HAT????????????????.

juan: you like lesbians, as you should as you should.

radford: you like one of the better ships, idk he cool.

roys mom: you looked at the 20sec she was on screen and went like "i mean shes an asshole but DAMM IS SHE FINE" which same my pfp would be her if i didint like robert more.

the guy who keeps quitting his job (i forgor his name): you gave up before you even started: hes one of the smarter ones tbh bro went like ''im not gonna get murderd over a shitty underpaying candy job fuck this".

alright thats all i could think of. if i missed any let me know and i might make a part two. i hope some of you are offended i want all the smoke losers.

[kevinsdsy]

Hi how are you? I hope you are doing well

Can you name me some of the songs that remind you of kevin?

AHHH I HAD KEPT THIS IN THE INBOXES BC U SENT THIS WHEN I WAS JUST MAKING PLAYLISTS FOR AFTG but i’ve been SOOO busy i never got around to it. so even though i don’t have my playlists ready i can give you a few of my thoughts.

anyways before i go on a rant here are the playlists :)) the first one is specifically songs that remind me of him and the second playlist is songs i think he would listen to :)) both need touching up, but for now this is what i have.

so nora has said kevin listens to classical music which I LOVE for him sadly i feel like i don’t listen a lot to it to give my own takes and song choices on it :(( but definitely something i want to get into one day and then i’m sure i’ll make a whole playlist of it

anyways moving on to music i do know

i think kevin listens to the neighbourhood like in my mind the neighbourhood is THE PERFECT vibe for how i envision kevin

and i mean this in a way like “i think kevin would listen to this”

same goes for florence + the machine but so many of the songs are either him or jean or ravens coded it’s insane and also so many are foxes coded too i LOVE interpreting f+tm for aftg

anyways king by f+tm IS SO !!!!!!

and how much is art really worth? the very thing you’re best at is the thing that hurts the most.

ntm shake it out for kevin during the king’s men

oh no! by MARINA (and the diamonds (rip to this name)) IS SOOOO KEVIN LIKEEE

i would use specific lyrics to prove my point but tbh: the whole song™️

this is me trying by taylor swift likeee

i’ve been having a hard time adjusting. i had the shiniest wheels, now they’re rusting.

they told me all of my cages were mental. so i got wasted like all my potential. and my words shoot to kill when i’m mad.

i was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere. fell behind all my classmates and i ended up here.

half return by adrianne lenker also reminds me of kevin, but in a ‘read between the lines it depends how you interpret it’ kind of way and i don’t even think i could really get my point across if i did try to explain it 😭😭 but the song is so devastatingly beautiful likeee (also reminds me of seth’s death)

too sweet by hozier is such a kevin song but in a way of i could see people making so many edits of him to this song and they would go viral LMAO

i think kevin would also listen to mitski but only during specific times/moods when he’s sulking and drowning in regret (and thinking about jean)

for example see i’m your man

also added je te lesserai des mots by patrick watson to the playlist of songs i think kevin would listen to— i think it has a perfect mix of classical and french music

[joejhang]

i read die free or die a failure.

spoilers ahead !!! these are my thoughts and i'm a yapper.

THINGS I LIKED (in no particular order)

andrew. (i feel like i really enjoyed his characterisation even tho it wasn't accurate. like it still felt sort of like him just like he was more vocal??? more expressive??? idk like his real personality was all there. i feel like he didn't really do anything that canon andrew wouldn't do, he just did it more openly. i love the way he handled neil and i love his smartass comments he genuinely made me laugh. and yeah protective andrew is near and dear to my heart)

kevin-neil dynamic (i would include jean in this but i hate to say it i feel like jean didn't quite fit in the narrative. like he was just there. but he didn't have a LOT of personality. it's fine tho we have tsc and that's enough for me. anyway. i loved kevin and neil's sibling dynamic it was SO funny i think they deserve to have more silly brotherhood moments in canon. i also liked how the author rlly deepened their relationship and there were a lot of layers to their bond)

SETH (i'll say it till the day i die seth deserved better. i feel like dfodaf perfectly illustrates how seth could've been if he had been allowed more time and a redemption arc. maybe it was a little rushed but i LOVED the way he became like a protective older brother to neil and actually learned about his mistakes and was willing to own up to them. GOD he had so much potential)

martyr!neil (IDK I KNOW IT'S TOXIC IT WAS JUST REALLY REALLY WELL DONE. it's not completely in line w canon neil's personality tbh but i feel like the author just got one of neil's key personality traits (a penchant for self-sacrifice and getting into near death situations) and just exaggerated for narrative purposes. which i can respect. and i just genuinely think neil is the bestest boy and this is probably very similar to what he could've been like if he had grown up in the nest)

andreil build up (i say build up bc that's the part i loved most abt their relationship in this fic. like it just felt very right for them to be together romantically after everything they went thru in this fic together. and i feel like andreil is a difficult ship to rewrite and make good bc of how well nora developed the intimacy and trust between them but this fic did it right. like the amount of trust they had in each other rlly warmed my heart!!! and i'm honestly a bit of a traditionalist and i like to stick to the canon but i think within the context of this fic their relationship was developed perfectly and paced perfectly. it just felt like the final piece in the puzzle slipped into place when they actually officially got together. like it just made sense. bc they already had that pre-existing foundation of trust and consent and they already knew each other really well. and their banter!!! it was so well written and funny. they had GREAT chemistry. they cooked w this one)

THINGS I KINDA DIDN'T LIKE (no hate!!! i'm just a natural hater and these r just some criticisms)

neil. (SORRYYYY i just can't stand when they mischaracterise my boy!!!! i feel like it kind of is a personal preference but reading this fic didn't really feel like i was reading neil. i think in the first half it was fine and i wasn't bothered by it too much but by the second half it kind of took me out of the narrative. like the neil i know and love isn't this vocal or this open about like...anything. like i just felt like neil in this fic was just very like out there and a lot louder and more...talkative??? than neil in canon. and i think it bothered me a lot bc one of the things i love most abt neil is his quiet (until he's not) personality. like he's really chill and just isn't as like vocal as he was in this fic. again it's probably just me, but i just feel like the neil characterisation in this fic didn't feel quite right to me)

the dialogue (not all of it but a lot of it i remember being like oh ok. like it felt a little too...like blunt??? like the dialogue felt kind of jarring bc i feel like real ppl wouldn't speak like that. a lot of the conversations felt kind of awkward (this isn't me imposing my own like preferences onto this fic even within the narrative it didn't feel right) and i feel like a lot of what aftg does right in terms of writing is showing not telling the characters' thoughts and feelings whether thru actions or expressions. but in this fic it kind of felt like the characters were all just saying exactly what they were thinking and feeling and experiencing at all times and it kinda took me out of the story)

ok that's it. the things i liked outnumbered the things i disliked but the things i disliked were some pretty big things. STILL. i digress. i think writing such a long and complicated fic abt such a well-loved piece of writing is such a skill and i think the author did great even if there were things i personally didn't love about it. go read it PLEASE so i can discuss this w ppl. CHECK TW!!! there are a lot and this fic is very dark and very heavy and difficult to read at times. anyway. props to the author i had a great time.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/31265498/chapters/77287217

[enigmatist17]

So I did go see the Borderlands movie this morning, and holy cannoli, it was a flaming dumpster fire of a movie. Spoilers about below just FYI

However!

Kevin Hart ended up being one of the saving graces when I thought he would be the worst of the lot! Sure, he doesn't physically embody Roland from the games, but performance and combat-wise, he was very solid! Jamie Lee Curtis as Tannis was alright as well. She nailed a lot of Tannis' mannerisms to a T, and overall, unlike Lilith and Moxxi, I didn't mind her being aged up. Kreig was great despite being pretty much silent most of the game, and looked like he'd been quite literally pulled right out of the game and dropped into the movie.

Tina was very meh, it's like they wanted her to me more unhinged but restrained themselves at the last moment, and it doesn't work in the Borderlands world. They also had this thing where she's really a clone of a supposed "Daughter of Eridium", whatever the hell that means??? I think if it had been rated R or unrated like it should have been, Tina would have made more of an impact, but she just ended up being very meh.

Lilith was...well, I'm not sure. Most of the movie kinda centers around her backstory/her mom, which tbh is not what I wanted to see from a Borderlands movie? Like seeing some twists about Pandora/her being older was fine, but to have almost everyone fawning over her/her mother got old super quick, and they waited until the end for her to be the badass siren we all know and love??? I'm not the biggest Lilith fan, but Cate did her best with a script that couldn't decide if they wanted Lilith to be an asshole or sympathetic, which for an actor who's played/loves the games, has to suck :/

Jack Black was not great, and to find out he VA'd the Claptrap lines before they started filming makes his odd detachment make so much freaking sense. It always felt like Claptrap was just slightly removed from everything, and I couldn't nail down why until I googled that midway through the movie (which btw my sister, a friend, and I were the only ones in it lol). They should have just gotten the VA for him, Jack was not it :/

The CGI was either really good or really bad, and Lilith's wig did not blend in with any of it at all lmao. The sets/Pandora/costumes, aside from Tina's, were pretty damn good, but where it really shined was the guns. I could literally point out specific guns and their manufacturers despite all the motion of combat, and to be able to do that for even a casual gamer? Loved it.

Sadly though, despite them having been credited for months leading up tot he film, Hammerlock, Wainwright, Ellie and Scooter all got cut from the movie and it's a fucking travesty. I was kind of hoping Hammerlock would kick ass, but to get to the end and find out the asshat who ruined this movie said "oh they were gone for pacing" made me SO mad.

THEY FILMED A WEDDING SCENE YOU ASSHAT, I WANT THAT FOOTAGE AND I WANT IT NOW

Overall, my score is a 1.5/10

[liaisun]

uhm... you're writing something from riko's pov? would you perchance like to share more details? it's okay if you don't, just curious.

hello anon!! i forgot i enabled anon asks again but i will keep it on so people arent scared away from asking abt these things LOL. i would absolutely love to share the details :3c

the fic is 2nd person pov, flashes of riko’s life through the years and the way he perceives the world, the development/degeneration of riko and kevin's relationship, riko becoming who he is, and his descent into madness

it all began with my most trusted confidant sending a msg abt “all the ways riko could have been different and all the ways his pathways were cut”, riko being ONLY 19 like he wasn’t even 20 when he died… augh what the hell . so i immediately started thinking abt riko’s thoughts and state of mind at the time of his death

do we think he didn’t see his kingdom crumbling? that he was holding on the tightest to the only thing he had, until it destroyed him? icarus to the sun? AHGH. and yet riko is such a clear case of a made monster.

riko’s convictions are fragile. that's why he constantly needs external validation of his superiority over others by exercising control over them; moriyama family status being the excuse provided to him, and it's what he clings onto when he sees behavior that doesn't fit into his worldview (like when he is with kevin and sees kayleigh/a loving parent.) you're a moriyama, you're different, you're not lonely, you aren't affected by things like that because you're better.

tbh i think riko doesn’t even conceptualize himself as a person. he’s a vessel for success, he calls himself king (a title rather than a name), he’s defined by the number on his face and is part of a set with kevin (his relationship w kevin is whole other can of worms lmfao). riko is simultaneously above everyone else and yet worth nothing, because he will never have the thing he truly wants— his father’s regard, a place in the main line

many of tetsuji's statments are translated as riko's own thoughts and he repeats them as children do. his behavior becomes more controlling but it isn't maliciously intentioned; riko genuinely believes he is protecting kevin by doing this, because he knows how the nest works and kevin doesn't yet. it's heartbreaking!!! it's also at this unstable time when kevin is taken in by tetsuji where you can see the dynamic between riko and kev take root and become twisted.

also, riko's thoughts on family and brotherhood are so contradictory— he sososo severely values the idea of a brother. yet he's seen how tetsuji's been treated by kengo as well, understands that brotherhood is conditional. so it's this thing to want and to fear, which leads to how kevin is simultaneously idolized and adored, while being objectified and diminished at the same time. kevin is his brother, but only when it's convenient. over time, it's less and less of kevin as a separate person, and more of seeing kevin as an extension of riko.

this became a meta LOL but that's what happens when u write a character study i suppose! most of the fic is written i just need to clean it up, hoping to post by the end of the year :-)

[leejynz]

the boyz - younger or older preference | fluff!

*note this is all fictional and just based off of my opinion of the boyz*

sangyeon | younger

he’s been stuck with 10 younger brothers so he’s definitely used to being the older one

definitely would tease and make fun of his s/o

wants to take bigger responsibilities (man of the house sort of vibe)

big spooning and driving the kids to school

jacob | same age/younger

tbh he prolly doesnt mind age *kevin doesn’t use honorifics for him*

definitely extremely caring to his s/o and will treat you like his queen

he’d take care of you and sleep w/u when you have a cold so both of u can be sick together

will teach you how to play guitar and pat your head when you make mistakes

younghoon | older

even though he’s hyungline, he secretly wants his s/o to be older than him

wants his s/o to comfort him when he cries

teases his noona and gets yelled at for but he enjoys it

younghoon can be shy so having an older s/o can be his perfect half

hyunjae | older

some might disagree but hyunjae would love calling his s/o ‘noona’ all the time

likes to joke around his s/o by calling her full name just to make her angry

sneaky and mischievous and jokes around with his s/o and loves to catch her off guard

wants his s/o taking care of him especially on trips and vacations (putting sunscreen, cooking, setting up plans)

juyeon | same age

i can’t see older or younger idk why?? juyeon definitely wants his s/o to have lots of similarities with him and similar opinions

been together with three other 98liners so he wants his s/o to be his best friend too

he wants to take care of his s/o and be taken cared of at the same time

love at first sight typa vibe.. gets even more attracted if his s/o has more things in common

kevin | same age/younger

at first i thought older but kevin is also on the younger side. like juyeon, he wants his s/o to be his best friend and lover at the same time

would carry you at any random time (with those big ass arm muscles)

panics and starts high pitch screaming whenever his s/o makes mistakes/accidents

calls his s/o cute when she looses in arm wrestles and tries to come up with excuses

chanhee | younger

i’m lowkey contemplating myself on this one but tbh i’ve noticed new gets rlly energetic with the members especially the maknae line

new would find his s/o cute if she was like innocent but immature at the same time

pranks his s/o at a serious situation just to see her reaction after

starts laughing when his s/o cries during a movie but hugs her and comforts her after

changmin | older

changmin def wants his s/o to be more calm and collected (kinda) like his hyungline

loves to see his s/o loose in a bet and does aegyo for the punishment

likes to scare his s/o just like his hyungs and records the reactions

when he sees his “noona” cry but doesn’t know what to do so he lets her head lay on his chest

juhaknyeon | younger

most confident with this one; ngl i thought he was in the hyungline when i first saw tbz

wants to be the “older one” and would teach his s/o english and chinese words everyday

gets mad at his s/o whenever she’d skip meals or gets injured/hurt

during a fight with his s/o, he sees her cry and suddenly worries. puts her to sleep after.

sunwoo | older

no i will not be biasing him or eric bc they r the maknaes

sunwoo is def mature for his age but also a little kid sometimes. s/o def has to match his energy 100%

s/o will put portions of food in his mouth and ask him if her cooking skills are good

will continuously remind sunwoo his daily schedule every single morning

eric | older

eric wants somebody he can lean on to and someone he can learn from.

makes big accidents and pretends nothing happened in front of his s/o (she obvi knows)

whenever s/o starts yelling at him, eric starts joking around and keeps saying he’s sorry

tries to impress his noona with his dancing skills whenever she’s upset (and it works)

[ardentpoop]

I dont mean this as a dig, but as a genuine question: why do you feel like the S9 finale "undid" Sams character development? Cause I think it was like, very in character. Sam spent S8 being guilttripped for not looking for Dean in Purgatory, gave up Amelia and the chance at a normal life once again. Then he spent the 2nd half of S8 doing the trials and dying, and blaming himself for "letting Dean down" and internalizing Deans words. Then Gadreel, and the guilt of "killing" Kevin– and then he did stand up to Dean, which was immediately followed by Dean spiraling out and their relationship being all over the place. And I mean, even when Sam stands up for himself, he still always ends up feeling guilty. So even when Sam says and believes "I wouldn't do the same, in the same circumstances", its something else entirely when something actually happens. Its easy to say and believe "I wouldnt/would do this" until it actually comes to it. Especially with it NOT being the same circumstances and Dean battering into him how "Sam not doing the same for him" was something Sam should feel bad for. He was gonna trade his soul for Dean to come back (not sure if S10 retracks on that, I only have up to S9 finale on my mind), which he tried to before in S4 even after they said they wouldn't do it again. In S8 he got hit with the "yeah, your agreement? thats a non agreement". And its one thing when your brother just suddenly goes invisible like with purgatory, and another when your brother dies in your arms and you actually have a body lying in his bed. I dont know, I just dont think its undoing anything. I think with everything Sam has been through, and everything Sam was manipulated into doing, and having his body and mind violated so so many times, especially now after the trials and Gadreel, and knowing he cant go back to Amelia, and knowing Dean and Kevin are dead, not just missing or whatever... I dont think it was bad or out of character writing. Sorry i hope my words are making sense, english isnt my first language and i know i get a little all over the place sometimes

hi! tbh you really don’t need to provide this much context for me next time as I’m always able to make sense of sam’s motivations no matter how the narrative is framing them. however your objection here is exactly what I’m talking about when I tell you guys the inconsistent writing confuses the audience. what I’m criticizing carver’s writing for in the s9 finale is not the idea that sam would resurrect dean to keep them together - that is so obviously in line with sam’s past behavior that it shouldn’t even be worth debating. are you aware that during samndean’s confrontation in “the purge” they were talking about two different things? sam was telling dean that he would never violate his autonomy the way dean did his by tricking him into letting gadreel into his body. dean was taking this as sam saying that he wouldn’t resurrect him from the dead period i.e. he loves dean less than dean loves him - a frankly very juvenile and frustrating POV that completely glosses over the heart of the issue, but that’s our dean lmfao. would be fun and great to work with if not for most of this audience taking dean’s perspective as fact and disregarding any ideas that deviate from it, which is how we always end up with fandom invalidating sam’s feelings sometimes even worse than dean does onscreen.

the s9 finale reducing this conversation and related conversations in the aftermath of the gadreel issue to “I thought you said you were okay with [me dying]” / “I lied” DOES do a massive disservice to sam’s character development earlier in the season by badly obfuscating his possession trauma and the horrific horrific betrayal of dean tricking sam into being possessed without his informed consent and then quite literally gaslighting him about it. this writing choice also ensures that dean doesn’t have to change a damn thing abt his behavior, as is always the case in this story. dean wriggled in the cold for a little bit post-gadreel, then while he was in this fucked up headspace he decided to take on the MOC of which one of its cute little side effects was possibly eventually making him murder sam (lol), then in the s9 finale he punched sam out so he could Nobly go off to fight metatron alone after sam generously entrusted him with the first blade, then he got to hear sam telling him Forget Everything I’ve Said All Season, It’s Fine That You’d Do This To Me Again, then he fuckin pathetically died in sam’s arms, then next season he wakes up as a demon and tries to kill sam with a hammer after rattling off a bunch of nonsense abt Who’s The Real Monster Here Sammy. Really Makes You Think.

like I’m sorry the conclusion to s9 IS a bunch of bullshit that dropped every satisfying thread of character development that the rest of the season had been semi-competently weaving together, and s10 is even worse - a complete mess in terms of storytelling. and again, this is me talking about the way that the events are framed and the narrative bias in dean’s favor. if we’re talking in-universe samndean characterization of course their motivations make sense to me these guys live inside my brain permanently.

[hbogirls]

Riverdale characters as Swiftie stereotypes/archetypes?

veronica posts stuff like "unpopular opinion: [something really inflammatory]" or "am i the only one who [something that causes many people to rush in and say that they agree with her]." basically she puts engagement above all else and finds great success that way

kevin believes every single theory that passes in front of his eyes. he's very into the numerology of it all and believes she is sending him messages through even her casual outfits. obviously should the tide ever turn against her again, he is going with the tide.

betty also loves the clues, but she's far more judicious about which ones she believes than kevin is. she will occasionally lean gaylor if that's where the facts take her, but she mostly gets likes on joke posts.

cheryl is a gaylor for sure. it's partly rooted in her already seeing things through a queer lens and partly rooted in her being nosy as fuck, but she knows the texts and the theories, make no mistake about that. toni is a more casual fan, but cheryl got her into gaylor stuff, and she thinks it's fun in a semi-ironic way

archie is a swiftie in the way nfl and mlb players are swifties. he gets asked about it for a funny little tiktok once a year, and everyone is impressed when he pulls a deep cut as his fav

jughead makes fun of her endlessly online, but he can't post his spotify wrapped because, well, there she is.

tabitha is like a classic, offline, lifelong swiftie. she's gonna like all of taylor's ig posts, she knows all of the songs, she's gonna wear a fun outfit to the concert, and she knows nothing of any discourse. she's a nice and normal girl!! ditto for reggie tbh

uncle frank and gay kevin's gay dad attend the eras tour together and get mad at girls using the men's bathroom because the women's line is too long

[aalyre]

I actually didn't view Kevin as a coward myself until recently. Seeing Nora say Neil wouldn't have left Jean at the Nest changed the way I saw Kevin. I don't think anything can change my mind now tbh.

Especially because in some ways, like the other anon said, it could have been harder for Neil to stay. He would have been property like Jean, unlike Kevin. He wouldn't have gotten to travel or leave the Nest or been loved by the public, etc. He probably would have endured similar physical, psychological, and sexual abuse that Jean did.

I know it's hard to say who has it worse in the Nest (and cults in general). But I know for certain if somebody told me I had to join one and I had the choice of being 2nd/3rd in the hierarchy (depends on whether you count Tetsuji), or being even lower than dead last, like I'm literal property of the cult and its leaders... I'm choosing 2nd/3rd...

Not one of the others anons btw- just to avoid any confusion haha 😅

hi!! i can actually see that, but i think for me i don’t really count levels of cowardice based on whether he stayed or not.

don’t get me wrong, i think that the way he did it, using jean and all, wasn’t the bravest thing at all.

but i actually think that leaving in the first place was a brave act. especially when the nest was what he knew best, and in the series we see this very clearly in the way that he acts (still has some raven reflexes/habits)

i do think neil would have stayed (based on his personality not was nora said) but is it bravery? or recklessness? because we know neil has a tendency of putting himself in very dangerous/mortal situations, and i’m not sure that this equals bravery to me (not yet set on this, would need a ten hours discussion)

my bottom line is that i feel we could argue that neil is also a coward in some ways, but in the end no one really thinks that because his ultimate choices are bold, and this boldness i believe is a mix of recklessness and courage (i personally don’t think i see neil as a coward either, but he fits the comparison)

i think kevin is similar to him in that sense, but without the recklessness. he’s not reckless that’s for sure. he’s cautious, prudent in the way he acts (mostly in front of the public eye)

i also dont believe that kevin should have stayed in the nest for jean. like i get the whole, he left him there alone, and i totally agree that using him was wrong (as jean said, he didn’t have to slit his throat on the way out) but staying wouldn’t have made him brave to me.

i’ll make a small comparison that might not talk to you and then i’ll stop bc this is becoming way too long but basically i’m in the marauders fandom and there is a similar situation where Sirius Black left his abusive home (House of Black) and “left” his little brother Regulus Black behind. and there is a huge discourse about who was right (sirius for saving himself although he left his brother who wouldn’t come with him, or regulus for resenting him for leaving/thinking sirius should have stayed) but one thing everyone agrees on is that Sirius is one of the bravest characters.

kevin and sirius black are very different but basically i don’t believe that one can mesure cowardice/braveness on whether someone stays of leaves an abusing household. in the end it’s about survival and i’m not sure that bravery/cowardice have a place in survival.

anyway i liked reading about ur pov so thank you!! and pls don’t hesitate to tell me more. also thank u for specifying about the anon because i admit i wasn’t sure ahaha