#i love asriel so i love ralsei
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wooo first ralsei ever drawn! or. ralseis.
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#deltarune#dr#kris dreemurr#susie deltarune#ralsei#kris deltarune#pokemon#my art#planning on also doing noelle and berdly at some point#i really love the idea that susies applin has a bite taken out of it#it doesnt hurt since its the worm not the apple but it does lead people to believe that she treats it badly#kris's zweilous do worry that their trainer is not acting like themself#they also parallel each other because i am evil#and since ralsei gets a mimikuy you can guess what asriel has (hess so protagonist coded)#>:3c
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Say, if the Dadyrus AU has Suzy/Susie and Noelle, then what about Berdly? Is he doing anything in the AU? And what about Dess?
He is very much in the AU! Idolized Chara for years, and Man, If he had interacted with Chara even just ONE time, he would have seen that theyre just a goober, a bookworm hermit, a self sacrificial cryptic with a heart of gold!
*pulls up glock* and I better not see anybody tag this as ship, Chara ad Asriel are in college, they are ADULTS. This is an "I aspire to be this cool" type of deal, alright? not a crush
(Chara did not get nauseous bc theyre already a void monster, void goo its not toxic to them! And theyre all fine, its just like if you licked a bit of battery acid: horrible mouthfeel, but overall okay if it was just a lilbit if it)
Loved loved LOVED this ask so much, thank you!!
#and the cherry on top: when chara was finally cool‚ you can see Berdly's darkworld glasses shattered on the floor#so my boy was half blind when that happened XD#living as flowey drastically changed Asriels personality#so he would not have hanged out with his classmates outside of school#This comic and post had so much text in it so sorry!#I just deadass loved this ask so much!#and yes I accidentally licked battery acid.#dadyrus au#myart#december holiday#dess holiday#undertale#deltarune#ut#chara dreemurr#chara undertale#chara ut#asriel dreemurr#Berdly#ralsei
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i don't know if ralsei is a transfem or transmasc i just know he is trans
#melonposting#he is trans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yayy yippee#but then given his strange darkner relationship to kris' mind you'd imagine him to be some sort of gender mush#because kris a) is nonbinary b) aspires to be like older brother asriel and c) is autistic#like ralsei looks like said older brother asriel but is presumably more feminine than he is#and a stereotypical offhand for androgyny is 'feminine boy'#if we read ralsei as this trans-flavored stereotypically androgynous mush it's interesting comparing him to kris who's explicitly nonbinary#and just kinda chill about it? they'd presumably not care to fit any specifically androgynous nonbinary mold#they're just themselves#i love thinking of ralsei as this weird distorted part of kris' brain. like what if i were what you could be#like you could be your brother. you can be a wonderful boss monster boy like him#but oh you aren't a boy? okay you can be nonbinary. here's what a wonderful boss monster enby would look like#being nonbinary in the most inoffensive and palatable way possible. ha! you cannot tell what gender i am#but a lot of people assumed ralsei was a girl at first glance so i suppose it isn't entirely fair to say he passes as androgynous anyway#whatever. stuff to think about
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obviously if you’re busy leave this alone but: your tag essay has made me VERY intrigued about Dess and Azzy’s relationship in this AU. Tell me about it?
(also, did you see they did an announcement about Starship Iris season 3? It’s finally gonna happen!)
okay IM HERE TO TALK LOL i will NEVER not talk about this au <3 uhhh under a cut bc. really i should just expect these get super long.
big important note up top: all of this is in! early stages! things are not fully formed and researched yet so please keep that in mind as you read this. ideas might change and will get deeper as i do more work for this au, but since rn im focusing on owl house most of these are my ideas i've had without time to do deeper dives into them.
okay so with asriel i've always sort of written him as this guy who like...has an idea of what is 'normal' in his head, ie, what society wants from people, and what it doesnt want, and he has tried his hardest his entire life to always fit into this box. (think about i know im not well--this is why he's always seen kris as a human. being nonhuman is abnormal and gets you punished in society. to an extent this is also how he views dess being aromantic.)
i think a lot of this comes from fear--asriel IS for sure contorting himself and actively harming himself to stay inside this narrow box of 'normal' (think of this as another sort of prophecy--these are all touching on the same themes). and he applies this same mentality to other people BECAUSE of this fear, because he doesnt want his loved ones to be hurt, to be punished, ostracized, etc by society--which are i wanna be clear VERY MUCH THINGS THAT HAPPEN--but in doing this he sort of just hurts the people he loves. because instead of being someone who rejects these boxes hes like. no we gotta be good and fit into the boxes and then everything will be okay.
so when it comes to dess, dess has always very much Done Her Own Thing, consequences be damned. partly this is who she is, partly this is hashtag undiagnosed and untreated mental illness, the onset of which happens around when shes 18 and everything is going down with the bunker (which is NOT helping at ALL). and so when dess comes back from the bunker asriel does very much go 'oh. shes delusional.' and proceed to be No Help At All.
and like, the thing is dess IS very much having a psychotic break. this bit is very much still in deep research (sidenote: anybody in my audience who has experience w/ these things. feel free to hit me up/dm me lol i'd love to talk through some of my ideas as a sort of preliminary sensitivity read, but of course only do this if you are up to it, no pressure lol bc again we're in early stages) but she has schizoaffective + bipolar disorder. dark worlds dont help with this, asriel SUPER doesnt help with this (he doesnt know her actual disorder--neither of them do, this is the onset of things. but tbf even if he did he Would Not Help asriel is essentially doing everything wrong here.) and what dess needs is literally one single person in her corner but the person who is supposed to be in her corner (azzy) is basically being like 'you are making this up' and shes like im NOT, and everything is all mixed together, terrible, bad, awful, and eventually everything culminates and. we know what happens.
(side note but this is why she and chara work real well together actually--chara gets her when asriel doesnt!!)
asriel never actually like. tells anybody about this though. in his head after its assumed dess and kris have died he sort of just. is like well this proves it. i cant let anybody else i care about go that far EVER AGAIN, because if i was a better friend i would've noticed and i wouldve stopped it and made dess "normal." (yes asriel sucks here. the focus is on the kids but. he's getting an arc. i do promise he will get better but. that doesnt really fix what he's done in the past.)
and all of this is like. it fucking sucks for the people around asriel. in hurting himself he's hurting his loved ones--it pushes dess away, and that relationship is never going to be the same. even when asriel realizes how he fucked up i dont think dess really forgives him. because if asriel had just believed her, or at least even if he didnt actually took her seriously and tried to help, shes like. things wouldve gone differently. and asriel knows this too.
and then when it comes to NOELLE, well. asriel's always been very overprotective of her. terrified the world is going to hurt her. and so when noelle starts experiencing things, things she cant tell if theyre real or not...
she doesnt tell him. she doesnt tell anybody. she keeps it all to herself, and this means its a hell of a lot easier for the player/red soul to manipulate her. and nobody finds out until its too late.
#ask#drkau#hi welcome to the reveal of a real big thing this au is about that i havent mentioned anywhere yet <3#unless youre one of two people in which case hey. hey guys.#but yeah uh. ive had some thoughts. about what i want to do. try to say.#about prophecy and how that relates to This World Here#and yes the only place i can say those things is in a deltarune au <3 i love my life#also STARSHIP IRIS S3 YES. I SAW. SO EXCITED.#also also. writing this it hit me that holy shit asriel is the monster in 'human monster prince from the dark' isnt he. fuck. god.#GOD BC. if this is all tying back into prophecy...we get the red soul upholding it...azzy upholding it..and ralsei who was supposed to#but shes the one who BREAKS IT. oh my god. okay lemme write this down love having banger ideas in the tags
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Hey guys sorry for being inactive AGAIN I’m starting to get a little more tired out than usual just like before ;(
( here are some sketches to make up for it )
#‘hey guys sorry I wasn’t posting much I will soon though’#that’s what I said to myself in the asgore with a gun post..#yep uh I didn’t promise myself that at all#also I just played oneshot recently and omg I love the game so much it’s a hidden gem check it out guys#ralsei#ralsei deltarune#ralsei dr#niko#niko oneshot#niko os#flowey#flowey the flower#flowey undertale#flowey ut#papyrus#the great papyrus#papyrus the skeleton#papyrus undertale#papyrus ut#asriel#asriel dreemurr#undertale asriel#ut asriel#undertale#deltarune#utdr#oneshot#oneshot (game)
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actually while im at it. flowey undertale. im getting his stupid fanclub pin because unfortunately i am a fan
#hes literally just an 8 year old trying to be. not cool but Smart and Dark#like on one hand he knows more about the game due to resetting and hes also soulless which on one hand sort of mirrors players and rheir bo#redom but also it could range from depression to apathy though thats my hc#so he thinks hes smarter than everyone else#and also that 8 year old has. so much baggage#his alarm clock dialogue.#mistaking the player for chara#you know the drill#plus his personality#while im glad undertale had the ending it did#i feel like asriel ppprobably couldve been handled better </3#but thats in the past!!! yeag#ALSO alsoalso flowey parallels to ralsei i think its super neat#i do wonder if more parallels will show up. like flowey getting bored of a game he plays a million times vs ralsei which he doesnt seem to#be bored? he does know the game far better than kris susie or even the player do#so i wonder if thatll come up? floweys boredom vs ralseis unboredom. keeping them in a world thatll forever loop if the player doesnt let g#o#seeing the same thinf a bunch of times and getting sick of it vs hearing the same thing over and over and loving it#please not theres not any basis for this ralsei doesnt seem to really… fit into that#its more of escapism and him taking it to the farthest he can (avoiding negative thoughts even when they need to be confronted. ignoring th#e elephant in the room) which is how he mightve had to cope? or maybe its just because of the whole game aspects#also ralsei doesnt see other darkners as as important as the lightners/kris/mmmaybe us?????????? we dont know if he knows#like how flowey puts most other monsters beneath him except for chara/by proxy frisk and us#ralsei doesnt see himself as above the darkners but he sees susie and kris above them. i think its the same for flowey#though. flowey is debatable i think he might put himself above others considering genocide#yeah!!!!!!! i love gaymes
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Ralsei deltarune is literally so sketchy but also have we considered. That’s hes cute your honor have we considered this
#deltarune#decided im gonna replay deltarune and then maybe attempt to do evil bastard shit in undertale#cuz i am just so hyped up after replaying the pacifist route and want to do more but hm#just dont think im mentally prepared to kill these bitches yet#and ive literally forgotten everything that happens in ch1 of deltarune#im halfway through the first chapter and damn lol ralsei really is just so fucking sketchy#like he tells kris that their choices matter of course and he’ll support whatever they decide#but obviously kris cant actually make any decisions of their own and ralsei is like following the hero script to a T#and he gets upset with susie for constantly defying the narrative#i dont think id say ralsei is like the mastermind of this strange universe where you cant make choices#but he is suspiciously conformist like hes very eager to uphold a narrative and its like hes on a completely different planet#also you know theres the fact that hes like an alternate asriel or some shit#i dont trust him but despite this. he is very cute i do wanna kiss his nose#like hes such a satirized version of the pacifist that it feels fake as shit but i still love him#like. we go through the acid tunnel of love. DOES THIS MEAN NOTHING TO YOU#he could kill everyone and i wouldnt be surprised in the slightest and also im squishing his face
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#badger_yells#kris really saw what spamton did and went damb.. that’s a good idea right there#i AM confused about the whole slashing the tires thing though#was it to get more people to go to kris’s house or something? Or to stop the fam from getting asriel?#that being said it was very cute that susie slept over 🥺 her asking her parents practically didn’t happen so im oooughh#btw queen? Love her. so true she’s the og parent for lancer idk who kingy wingy and roluxs are#and am grateful for the whole ‘mercy percentage’ thing that was v helpful#one last thing:#ralsei is gonna snap at some point on god. that toothpaste boy contains multitudes.. his reaction to spamton was so unnerving#he only really cared when kris was visibly upset (he says you yelled at him) and his platitudes were so toxicly positive#idk if he’s gonna be a schemer or become an antagonist because he’s very fixated on the hero/destiny thing#because kris obviously isn’t actually in control in chap 1 and 2 and assuming they Are in 3 it’d be interesting if he had to go against em
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Ok first, this new Page is awosome, i think that Lily made a really good job with that New page! ( as always ) >:D
And Second, now i really scared about how the fuck Chara can think that be crontolling is something... great? And i pretty interested on why they protec and defend that " Human Souls possesion" thing-
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Part 19 || First || Previous || Next (Coming Tomorrow!)…
—Full Series—
Thought I’d split it into two parts bc 9 pages is a lot to scroll through :) plus reasons! See you tomorrow!
#lily doing a great page as always#this is so creepy and i loving it 👀#poor kids#kris needs therapy and chara too#deltarune chara timeline#bread#art#deltarune#Deltarune chara timeline comic#chara#Asriel#ralsei#Kris#Susie#susie deltarune#kris dreemurr#asriel dremuur#oh no they’re arguing 😔#the mayor#tw blood#original tags#reblog
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Nah kralsei is weird because ralsei is obviously an anagram of asriel and that's kris's sibling 😭 like...he obviously represents asriel in many ways so it's just weird. Like... yeah
I agree, it is weird! it's weird to look at as an audience. but it is THERE. I think it's pretty undeniable that ralsei has some sort of crush on kris, he's so blatant about it. "are you proposing?" he asks. and there's the whole acid tunnel of love scene. like, it's literally a tunnel of love. ralsei is being set up as kris's love interest, by the narrative or by ralsei himself, if those two are even different things, we dont know yet. or maybe ralsei is in love with us, the player, and using kris as a proxy. that would still be weird though! whatever the case though like, it's there. it's there and it's extremely intentional.
to be clear I'm not saying all this bc I "ship" kralsei or think it's endgame or whatever. I'm not coming at this from a fandom or discourse angle at all. but I do think it's necessary to acknowledge what's being imparted to us by the text, which is both that it's there AND it's weird. if it's making you uncomfortable it's probably on purpose, because the story is trying to tell you something. this is especially important with something like deltarune because it's being set up (from my angle, at least) that the narrative ITSELF is a character and it wants you to question why things are happening the way they are. why is kris being set up with somebody who looks like their brother? why is ralsei in love with kris? if ralsei ISN'T in love with kris, why is he acting like he is? what is ralsei, and what circumstances made him this way? you can't just say "that's gross, don't look at that" and turn away in a situation like this. even if it makes you too uncomfortable to do so, you gotta at least let other people analyze why it's happening and what it means.
er, all this to say, whether anybody ships kralsei sincerely or thinks it's nasty or whatever, I don't really care. I just think it's really interesting as a part of the story lol. you don't like thinking about it, that's fine, I don't blame you, but I don't think it's fair to tell people to not engage with it when it's begging to be engaged with.
#asks#kralsei#incest tw#hold on theres a really good post about this by somebody else I wanna find. i'll rb with it
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I feel like the four leads of Deltarune--Kris, Susie, Ralsei, and Noelle-are just. Somehow two different levels of queer-coded.
(Edit: Just to be clear: not saying any of this to disparage or insult shippers of Kralsei, Suselle, or Kriselle, I've just seen a lot of cool analysis about tropes, romance, and lack of choice in Deltarune and wanted to chime in with some of my own thoughts. If you ship any of those ships in Deltarune--fantastic! May you find a lot of content precisely to your taste.)
Like. On the one hand, if you're looking at tropes, they are very neatly set up into two romantic partnerships. Noelle is very blatantly interested in Susie, and Ralsei's feelings for Kris are often portrayed similarly. On a surface level, both pairings appear very clear. Noelle is a girl in love with another girl, while Ralsei is a very effeminate boy in love with a teen who doesn't appear to use pronouns. And a big deal isn't made of either pairing, there's nothing really in the way of Suselle or Kralsei on a societal level we've encountered so far. At least in terms of gender and sexuality. But if you look a little closer, it's kind of...'these are a very straight idea of queer ships', y'know?
Noelle and Susie are both girls, but one is very effeminately coded, anxious, uses magic, and is more traditionally cute, while they other is crass, crude, intimidating, and physically strong. Ralsei and Kris are gender-noncomforming, but Ralsei is a sweet pacifistic healer who bakes cakes while Kris uses a sword, and keeps being mistaken for a boy by much of Youtube and Reddit. The active one and the passive one, the fighter and the mage, the one with cute hobbies and the one who eats moss, the one in pants and the one in a dress.
And here, I start thinking of some posts I've seen analyzing how, in Deltarune, romance is used to explore how Kris doesn't really get choices. Kris has been cast as the leader and knight, and Ralsei has been cast as the healer and Princess, even if he is a boy. The leader often ends up with the healer. The knight often gets the princess as a happy ending. But Kris doesn't seem to like this! Their reactions to Ralsei are constantly lukewarm at best, and that's not getting into how Ralsei seems to be in love with his idea of Kris, while being very. Asriel-coded, who the game describes often as Kris' brother, in sharp contrast to how ambiguous Chara and Frisk's relationships with the Dreemurrs were.
If we and Kris reject Ralsei as a love interest, we can a different romantic partner in Noelle...but this choice has a bodycount, traumatizes Noelle, doesn't seem to leave Kris any happier, and it's still a kind of straight-coded ship. Now it's the knight being paired up with the apocalypse maiden, for the doomed codepedent toxic tragedy lovers out there. But it kinda makes sense too, right? If Kralsei is the expected RPG romance, then Kriselle would be the expected romance if there were no Dark World and Ralsei weren't an option. They're childhood friends and neighbors in a small town, their families used to be very close, Rudy is still very fond of Kris. They're even extremely angel/devil coded.
But the most interesting part is. It's implied that there IS someone that Kris is very interested in, either platonically or romantically. It's Susie. Kris never seems frightened by Susie when they're bullied by her, and rejects Noelle's offers to switch seats. They seek comfort from Susie rather than Ralsei after the Spamton fight, they call her their friend when Toriel calls, they share moss with her, they refuse to think about her during Snowgrave when Ralsei prompts them, they make it clear that out of all the people they COULD go to the Carnival with, Susie is the one they'd ACTUALLY want to choose.
And this is the part that drives me crazy. Because while Kris is so tightly controlled by genre and narrative, and those things would usually push them towards Ralsei or Noelle, and Ralsei keeps encouraging Kris to stick to the narrative. Susie is the one who refuses to be bound to the narrative. Susie is the character of Deltarune who is most unapologetically herself--and isn't that a very queer thing, refusing to be anyone but yourself despite everything? She says no thanks to the prophecy, until she comes around to it on her own terms! She makes herself and Ralsei learn to take their own actions, and drags Ralsei off to have fun with him instead of letting Kris choose who to with! She doesn't stay in her box of the damage-dealing fighter, she insists on learning Healing magic, even if she's not particularly skilled at it at first! Even Ralsei is forced to admit that it's wonderful that Susie is Susie, and not anyone else!
I think Kris likes Susie a lot. And part of it may be admiration. That while Kris is controlled by the player and the narrative and the prophecy and humanity and divorce and a dozen things outside their control, Susie refuses to ever be bound by anything. And Kris and Susie together happen to be the two more masculinely-coded party members, the two melee fighters, the two troublemakers. It honestly makes me wonder a little if Susie and Kris might be able to make their own ending beyond the bounds of gender expectations and romance expectations together? It would be cool. And I think it would make Kris very happy to break free like that.
#deltarune#deltarune meta#deltarune analysis#deltarune theory#kris dreemurr#susie#noelle holiday#ralsei#kralsei#kriselle#krusie
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help now that i finished toh daemon au i keep thinking about deltarune again.
IM JUST. DESS RAISES KRIS AU OKAY like this isnt to be mean to my old stuff for the most part i like the deltarune stuff i've written but. but i had to write all of that to come to Here, where for my versions of the characters dess raises kris au will be the Peak.
also i get to finally finally FINALLY explore susie/ralsei/noelle like i know its just me in this corner and it literally only works in my specific stories i like to tell w these three (particularly ralsei lol) but. but I Am Looking. okay.
#chatter#do NOT expect this au anytime soon btw#'thinking' and 'will write it' are two very different things ndfgdfg i need to Not write an epic for a while#and also bc in my head this is fic would span the entirely of deltarune#it would be nice if there was a bit more deltarune so the paths fox is going down are made more clear#not to say i'd follow them i dont care what deltarune says im keeping my versions of dess asriel ralsei kris etc etc#but STILL i would LOVE to know more about how dark worlds work n the endgame here#anyways noelle <3 i mentioned here once here but i am actually thinking about her#also aromantic kris but thats another story lol
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speaking of dr, there's something that really annoys me about how shallow the ship discourse around kr4lsei is. I'm not sure I'm 100% behind this for the same reasons i doubt toby will go full in with noelle's mom being abusive, ie "those are very delicate and complex topics to handle, does he have the time and space to deal with them in deltarune's story?" so take this with a grain of salt.
(warning for brief mention of incest, so I'm putting this under a readmore)
i think the discourse being framed as "thinking ralsei is presented as a romantic interest" vs "thinking ralsei is compared to kris' brother or like a family member" is incredibly stupid because those are... both true at the same time. yes, there's an unskippable "tunnel of love" scene, and it looks like ralsei could have somewhat of a crush on kris. but ralsei still 1) looks just like a dreemurr, 2) clearly plays, as a character, on our feelings and memories of asriel from playing undertale, as evident by their designs and their names being anagrams 3) i am 99% sure Noelle was going to say "that kinda looks like asriel" while looking at him eating cotton candy with Susie, and Susie herself suggests telling toriel he's "a long lost cousin". either way, if ralsei is meant to play on our feelings towards asriel, then as asriel's sibling, kris is likely gonna feel similarly.
are you uncomfortable? good! you should be. that's the point.
it's not random that the snowgrave route was framed and portrayed with the imagery of a wedding. first the freezering, then the thorn ring are explicitly compared to wedding rings. "we're just friends"/"we're something else". "YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [hyperlink blocked (...LoVE?)], HAVEN'T YOU?" noelle with whom kris had a strained relationship, whose feelings (platonic? romantic? we don't know) we brute force in what is the most chilling, manipulative, cruel iteration of chapter 2's story we could take... it's almost as if deltarune uses kris being forced into romantically coded situations they're deeply uncomfortable with as a way to showcase their lack of agency in the story.
and being pushed into romcom-like situations with a guy who looks like their brother works pretty darn well to follow that pattern, if you ask me.
now, if a forced romance with noelle represents their lack of agency in regards to the player, then... a forced romance with ralsei could represent their lack of agency towards Fate. The Plot/Story. unskippable cutscene, remember? not to mention ralsei's whole purposepilled shtick he clearly has a complex about.
this does raise a couple of questions about susie though, as the third option in the "who would you take to the fair with you" question, the one option kris seems to agree with, as well as being a character who is actively resisting the narrative.
because there's people who are very much FOR krusie, just as there are people against it, i doubt their getting or not getting together would work to represent kris gaining their agency back. and i believe i speak for everyone when i say that susie is going to play a huge part in that arc. either way, i'm curious to see how this develops.
idk! like i said, I'm not sure just how much toby is gonna go into this because it IS a very delicate subject. but it's an example of what i mean when i say "there's more to fandom than shipping" and "fixating so hard on Shipping Good Things" can be detrimental to analysis. I'm not cancelling anyone with this post, go on doing your thing whether it's kr4lsei or r4lsusie or krus1e. but if your first thought going into this was "I'm gonna ignore the part where the game compares ralsei to asriel because that would make my ship incest and that is Bad and uncomfortable" then... that's a very cheap way to interact with media? lol. sometimes being uncomfortable IS the point. god knows utdr makes you uncomfortable on purpose sometimes. ok rant over :P
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Theories on Kris’s soul and Ralsei’s identity
Hey everyone! This is not my usual thing, but after thinking on it a whole bunch, I decided I wanted to fully write out my theory/backstory explanations based on the last two short Deltarune comics. I usually express theorizing through fanworks rather than just talking through it, but since it's still stuck in my brain even now I figured it'd be fun to also just describe it all. I hope you all find it interesting! Who knows what future chapters will bring us, and anything can (and likely will!) happen, but as of right now I'm pretty convinced this is how things are with Kris and Ralsei. It's long and there's lots of screenshots included, so check below the read more for everything. And huge thanks to DemoPhone for getting all these screenshots for me!
So, Kris is adopted by the Dreemurrs at a young age. As the only human in a town populated by monsters, they already stick out significantly. Considering Toriel checked out a book from the library on how to care for humans multiple times, the Dreemurrs were likely going through a big learning curve with Kris, too.
Kris is not just different physiologically from everyone, but they’re quiet and weird, often mischievous, and just don’t fit in. As a kid, they wear a headband with red devil horns to try and fit in with their adoptive family, and especially to emulate their older brother Asriel, who seems to be everything that Kris isn’t.
He’s popular, kind, well-loved by the town, and is always willing to make friends and do the right thing. Despite how different they are, the two kids clearly care for each other, and Asriel in many ways is Kris’s anchor to this town and this life.
Growing up, the Dreemurrs are friends with the Holidays, and the four kids spend lots of time together. Dess appears to be the more bold and outgoing of the two Holiday girls, but is tempered by Asriel’s responsible nature. Everything between them is going well until one day, when out exploring in the woods south of town, they come across the hidden bunker, and something goes wrong. It’s not clear yet exactly what it is…but it resulted in Dess going missing. Of the four kids, Dess seems to be bold, Asriel responsible, Kris mischievous, and Noelle fearful…so it seems likely that Dess and Kris investigated something in the bunker that the other two stayed away from. Kris witnessed or may have even been involved in what happened to Dess. Dess currently appears to be lost in a dark place, perhaps a place between Dark Worlds, perhaps “stuck in the code” of the game itself. Whatever it is, Dess has gone missing and may even be presumed dead by her family, and Kris witnessed it and may feel directly responsible. This is why they’re still nervous around the bunker, and perhaps even why they’re apprehensive about the appearance of the dark world in the school supply closet.
Dess’s mother, the Mayor, is not going to blame the little kids for what happened…however, she IS going to place responsibility on Asgore, who was chief of police at the time and clearly should have been watching the kids more carefully. Asgore loses his job, and as things slowly deteriorate between the Holiday and Dreemurr families, he also loses his marriage.
The kids stop hanging out together so often, and when they do, it’s more strained. Kris will be playing with Noelle when they stop, getting hit with the memory of what happened, and wander off to the piano to try and play out their feelings.
Kris builds up years of these feelings…underlying guilt for messing up the friendships and even marriages of the monsters that adopted them. Their interests are weird, their habits are offputting, and they can often only express a desire for attention through pranks.
Despite the fact that the monsters in the town act friendly towards them, they still feel outcast and misunderstood. Their popular and beloved brother Asriel is their one solid anchor to everything, and Kris often wonders “wouldn’t things be easier and better if I was just like him?”
But eventually, Asriel gets old enough and leaves for college. Kris is left alone in the town with all their feelings, but no anchor. In some ways, it gets worse, as the other townsfolk continue to talk about how great Asriel is with him absent. And Kris agrees with them…but that doesn’t help at all how they feel.
To top it off, a new girl arrives in the town, who immediately presents herself as a troublemaker. She seems to have some deep problems of her own, perhaps stemming from her own rough upbringing, and takes out her aggression on Kris, the only human in the town. Despite the bullying, Kris takes it all in stride, even amusement. Susie isn’t saying anything about them that Kris doesn’t already believe about themself. If anything, Kris admires how unapologetic Susie is about her behavior, and sees a kindred spirit in her. They’re both outcasts, after all, with gross and offputting interests. And it is pretty funny how clearly Noelle is infatuated with Susie, too.
And yet, Susie doesn’t seem interested in actually being friends now, and while Susie is admirable, she’s not helping Kris’s long-standing guilt, loneliness and depression. They start resenting how things have gone. They start looking for unconventional solutions. Perhaps they try the church, but the church doesn’t seem to have answers, so they look elsewhere. Maybe things would just be better if someone else was running their life. Maybe someone bigger than them can fix these seemingly insurmountable problems. They start looking up how to do magic online. How to summon demons, stuff like that.
When that doesn’t work out, they turn to the local goth girl for help. After all, they’ve done occult spells with Catti before…protection spells for Noelle; something to ease Kris’s worries so that Noelle doesn’t suffer from the same misfortune Dess did.
One night, Kris asks Catti to perform a spell to summon a spirit. And surprisingly…something seems to happen. Kris is suddenly confronted with a strange figure who seems to be the devil. The figure says that it can bring Kris what they want: a spirit that can possess them and potentially even solve all their problems. But the figure requires something in exchange: their soul. Kris is at first reluctant, but the devil figure promises that the arrangement is only temporary: they’ll get their soul back when the spirit is no longer possessing them. So Kris agrees, and gives up their soul in exchange for another one.
The deal supposedly goes over, but Kris finds that it doesn’t seem like anything has changed once the spell ends. They’ve gotten a new soul, but it doesn’t seem to do anything. If anything, everything becomes harder. They start operating on autopilot…saying very little, only doing what’s required of them, and sleeping for huge amounts of time.
The joke around town now is that they seem like a walking corpse. Sure, they’re not dead, but it often kind of looks like it.
Maybe this spirit was just a total dud? Maybe that devil cheated them out of their own soul after all and they didn’t get anything in return. They try more than a few times to remove the new soul on their own, in the hopes that maybe taking it out by force will get them their own soul back. They find that they can remove the red soul with great effort! However, without it, they’re even slower and it’s even more difficult to move or act in any way. Removing it at least grants them a small degree of agency, and it seems to prove that their own soul is definitely around somewhere, because they’re still alive. But they can’t go for too long without putting the new red soul back in, because moving without it is such a strain.
Meanwhile, Kris’s request for something to possess them has worked, just not in an obvious way. The player experiences the passage of time very differently than the game characters they’re playing as, after all. To the player, they’ve suddenly gotten an invitation from an unknown character that they suspect they recognize from another game they’ve played. They don’t know what the invitation is for, but they’re more than ready to find out, even if it means downloading an unknown and potentially shady “survey program.”
Conveniently enough, this invitation and download become available on Halloween. A bit of an odd day to choose if you want a lot of people to download and play your game right away, since it’s a major holiday and most people already have plans. However…Halloween is a great time to summon a demon.
And to Kris, they wake up one morning exactly a week before their brother is scheduled to return home for a visit, and suddenly find that something else is moving their body for them. That new soul wasn’t a dud after all.
No time to even get really used to suddenly being physically possessed, as Kris and that school bully they admire just go to pick up some missing school supplies and get swept up into a strange place that Kris feels might be distinctly familiar. Once there, they meet someone else who, strangely, already knows who they are: Ralsei.
While Kris has been shambling around town with their player soul not in use, their own soul still needs to be kept in good condition. You can’t just leave a human soul out on its own for a long period of time. It at least needs some kind of container…a vessel. And the devil figure works out a perfect vessel for it…an object close to Kris, that they have a lot of sentimental value around. Something that symbolizes their desire to fit in with their family, and be just like their brother. Kris might have given it to the figure willingly, or it might have been taken without their knowledge, but the result is the same.
But hey…why not make things even more interesting? A dark fountain can bring objects to life in their own dark world. What happens if you were to take an object currently carrying a human soul, and bring it to life with a dark fountain? What would it look like if Kris’s soul, filtered through an object that symbolizes their desire to be just like their beloved brother, was given its own form and identity?
You get Ralsei. A “lonely prince” who looks an awful lot like Asriel, but seems to more closely match Kris’s age and stature. He seems to be more like a remixed version of Asriel than identical to him. He already knows who Kris and Susie are, and he knows where things are located in the light world…because Kris knows all that.
He’s able to travel between different dark worlds without being affected by them the way other Darkners are, because he carries a Lightner’s soul.
While it’s unclear if he is talking directly to the player, just to Kris, or to both, he is at least aware of an entity distinct from Kris, since he names the castle town after the player. It would certainly make sense for him to be aware of the player’s presence and influence because he was a part of that whole exchange between souls in the first place. There’s even implications that Ralsei is, perhaps, communicating with Kris in ways that don’t involve speaking aloud to them. When asking Kris to pick up the items from the classroom, he uses parentheses, which typically seem to indicate a character’s thoughts rather than dialogue.
Since the player is able to read other characters’ thoughts, Kris can even respond to them if no one is speaking.
If parentheses for Ralsei indicate thinking rather than speaking, he is perhaps aware of how to communicate with Kris and/or the player in ways that other characters won’t hear…or perhaps is only even capable of it at all because he has Kris’s soul.
He is always deferring to Kris, even when Kris makes questionable choices. While he’s eager for friends, he seems desperate for Kris’s approval in particular, and takes great pains to not upset them…or allow other things to upset them. He seems to be confident in who Kris is, but struggles more with his own identity.
For Kris, seeing their own wish to be like their brother come to life, and then to have the spirit possessing them keep directing them to hug him…well, it’s kind of awkward.
Just to speculate on the future, if it is true that Ralsei has Kris’s soul, this has the potential for some serious drama, and even setting Ralsei up as an antagonist without him being generically “evil.” Ralsei hasn’t had contact with anyone before meeting Susie and Kris. However, as they go on adventures together, he’s meeting lots of new people and gaining new perspectives. He’s steadily growing more independent from Kris, and establishing his own identity apart from them. What happens if Ralsei comes to the conclusion that Kris was right to trade him away all along…that not only does Kris not need him, but that he’s just fine without Kris? That he, perhaps, prefers being Ralsei to being Kris’s discarded soul?
Considering the player can’t keep playing the game forever, and Kris really can’t be left the rest of their life with a nonfunctional soul that leaves them on eternal autopilot, they’ll have to get their own soul back eventually. And after several chapters of the player themselves getting really attached to sweet and friendly Ralsei, that opens up the potential for some truly heartwrenching conflict.
#deltarune#deltarune theorizing#kris#ralsei#red soul#and a lot more references and such#haha somehow I'm more nervous about this than I am usually posting comics!!#I hope it all makes sense!#I think there's even other theories that can branch off from this#but they're even more speculative#I guess we'll see eventually!!
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Over!Deltafell Kris (Rika)
So, I really do love deltarune. And I also love aus from undertale, like... for example, overtale (where monsters and humans swap places) and underfell (an alternate reality where the main moto is "kill or be killed)
And so, around a year ago, I had the genius idea of... "oh, what if I just mash them all together?" And that's how I got here.
Rika is a sassy 17 year old who lives in a war-torn country that is currently going through what is considered "the great human-monster war" in modern times, and not hundreds of thousands of years ago like it does in canon undertale. Instead of being the "main character" that is the "key to closing the fountains," that role belongs to their human brother, Damion (a human!fell asriel that belongs to @tealeaf-alo).
Also, for lore reasons, I couldn't really figure out a way to keep ralsei and I really wanted to keep the male/female/nonbinary trio dynamic in tact, ralsei was replaced with a new oc that goes by the name sayori (because obviously they would choose a very anime esque name, the two siblings love anime a lot) and she is the "princess of darkness" instead of a prince. She fits into a sort of sister role for the two and keeps them out of trouble and on the right path. For... the most part, anyway. Good role model for them :)
Anyway, I might draw them/talk about them more at a later date but for now, here are some more doodles I did of my baby
Ignore how I forgot to draw their ears in this one...
#undertale#undertale au#utmv#deltarune#deltarune au#overfell#deltafell#delta!overfell#fell kris#underfell kris#monster kris#rika#rika kris#kris#sketch#my ocs#my art
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