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oooooo please tell me (who knows nothing on the subject) about orv swap au
hehehe. hehehehehehe. hehehehehehehhehehehhheheheh <- guy who is so normal
the premise of orv swap au (name has yet to be finalized) is this: what if kdj and yjh swapped narrative positions (reader <-> character) but very little else? what if a video game player enters a time loop to save his favorite character from dying over and over again and also to end the apocalypse?
admittedly it's not super fleshed out yet (a lot of the changes this premise would introduce are still not hammered out yet) but here are some points under the cut (novel spoilers ahead!)
orv swap au starts with pro gamer yjh who feels :/ abt his job, but hey, it pays the bills. despite (or maybe because of) his relative popularity as a pro gamer and networking with the agency/sponsors/people to impress, he's kind of isolated in a way that's detrimental, a facade of someone he's not whenever he's on camera
something to play around with is the idea of agency? maybe this yjh doesn't feel like he has any and has his hands tied between the lifestyle and being under public scrutiny and not having enough of a support system to leave everything behind. maybe he doesn't know what else he would even do. maybe he's aimless and drifting with nothing to hold on to.
his favorite video game is what i've been thinking of as World's Hardest To Play Indie Game (not based on difficulty but just on the experience of consuming it) a boring, exposition heavy, player-hostile, poorly designed, slightly buggy mess of a barely-playable game: twsa, a game that was not finished upon release and experiences with sporadic updates every now and then.
the ending tree to this game is so convoluted its insane. also theres no save states so if you die (very likely) u restart babeyyy.
twsa (video game) does have multiple endings, all of which happen when kdj, your main character, dies. some are farther into the apocolypse than others, some paths require meta knowledge of future events or character actions or items or whatever. the "true ending" is either analogous to the original 1863: kdj makes it to the end at the cost of everyone he loves, or hsy's modified 1863: kdj makes himself enemy of the scenario to secure a way out for the kimcom remnants.
there's branches on the choices tree where everyone dies and everything sucks and is bad forever and theres choices to make where kdj gets to make a family and they don't really get to settle down but they can get pretty close to it among the ruins of the apocalypse. through all his testing, yjh finds that these endings are nice but peter out - to get to the end of the apocalypse yjh has to claw his way there inch by painful inch, through betrayal and sacrifice, and he still cant fully get past it
i originally wanted to finagle a yoohankim 3 way swap but i couldn't figure it out. swap aus are a lot easier to work with when they're even numbers, at least to me, so this au features a ysa who is a video game company employee by day and by night she really has become god this time (and also a terrible indie dev). and this is how jungdoksang can still win !!!!
also yjh's coworker from Real Life hsy :) i haven't decided if she's like an employee for the same agency, or if she's someone else in the gaming circles that yjh interacts with sometimes (in my heart theyre in like some sort of discord server together), or something like that but she's around. whatever she does she is twitter cancelled for something. to me.
the only other character swaps are lsk and yma. yma is yjh's estranged sister (in broad strokes there's a vague bad parent situation going on here) (they used to be close until they drifted apart and slowly started hating each other [there is an abyss between them that neither of them can bridge]) (he feels that she betrayed him and threw him under the bus so he left [maybe he gets kicked out]) (she feels that he abandoned her to whatever situation they have going on [he didn't even try to take her with him]) and he has to find her when the apocalypse starts. yjh older sibling to yma gives us a whole different little dynamic to explore from kdj ysk (there's different levels of responsibility and guilt and blame when you're talking siblings that are soooooo interesting to me. sorry that i see any set of siblings and immediately try to figure out how to make them worse)
lsk is kdj's mom who appeared into existence at some point with kdj and they were both just adults. that's weird isn't it. oh well. i guess she can become a transcendent later too for funsies
everyone else stays in the same configuration of Real Person vs Character to me this is a very important aspect
this point has no precedent with the swap, nothing particular that would change to cause this, but it would be so funny if lgy was a little gamer boy who is an avid yjh hater. hates that guy. shows up to competitions to boo him. tunes into yjh's silent no-mic speedrunning streams to mald in chat but yjh +mods don't ban him bc its kinda funny.
anyways the apocalypse starts when yjh and his coworker/fellow gamer hsy are on a train to twitchcon and lgy is also there (also headed to twitchcon) and he brings bugs because he likes them but also to sabotage yjh specifically. its just funny if this happened. you understand
instead of having reader-related skills and abilities, yjh's skills are video game player based! he gets flavor text insight on people, location, and items, things like that. notably, he has the ability to reset, to bring himself back to the beginning of the apocalypse
orv swap proper follows yjh as the Player of the Game (Consumer of the Narrative) who lives hundred of lifetimes in this ruined-world-become-reality "replaying" [read: time looping through] the game to reshape it to save his fave character from self implosion (kdj with no dissociation is very prone to dying. all the time.). to revisit the idea of playing with yjh and the idea of agency, of creation, the only way to get past the apocalypse is to go off the beaten path, to choose options that weren't even there in the game. when in space, at his darkest point, yjh becomes a writer. in this story, at his darkest point, he has to become a creator too
please do not ask me how the epilogues go i dont know how the epilogues go (i don't want to throw yjh back into a train for milennia after he Just went through a thousand resets so i'm sending kdj for that but i havent fully planned how or why)
anyways, hope that helps!!! :)
#orv au#orvswap#i think i will main tag this. just the one tag tho. poorly planned au be upon ye.#orv#orv spoilers#<- for blacklists!#i only realized after creating this au that this is just how p//mmm goes except its videogame themed and hater lgy is there lol#anyways wheres that post that says time loops are about tragedy and theyre about saying i will make this right#and secret third thing time loops are about love#also each individual dynamic for the creater-player-character triangle in this is so interesting to me to explore like#you have the new kdj-yjh one (mostly similar tbh. was the crux of the au after all) which is a fun space to play in#but then you have a brand new kdj-ysa one to work with which is !!!! a writer and her character. a creator and her creation#and then you have ysa-yjh as the creator and her audience of 1!!!!!!! where is yjh that he needs to be saved? how does ysa answer that call#to love to the point of creation.... to tear the world asunder..... to create the worlds most unplayable rpg.......#lets meet again in another life. ysa reaches out toward yjh but cant reach him before she wakes up. cant quite tell him its not his fault#and Dont Even get me Started on yoo sister dynamics ill go insane#because theyre siblings but for a while (and def at the beginning of the story) it hurts to be around each other (its a betrayal#its a pang in your chest its a you were supposed to protect me and you were supposed to love me and i dont even know you anymore)#but also the swap means the 4th wall eats yma and leaves yjh begging for her back ('dont you hate her?' 'shes my little sister'#which is neither agreement nor denial but also both at once)#its ya boi#tango mango#anyways thanks for the ask im very normal about the ask
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GRID ACE 0.4
Gamer Reader x Lestappen SMAU
AHHHH PART 0.4. Honestly this is helping me grow my creativity and learn to love a new fandom even more! Sorry for the brief disappearance, being an adult with a big girl job makes me cry sometimes hehe!!
As always all pictures are from Pinterest and reader has various face claims!
Please leave me requests.
I have a part five planned for this... one shot style
With that LET’S GO
Masterlsit / Previous Part / Next Part
F1forthegirls Fans seem to think the picture added to y/n’s story yesterday was considered a soft conformation of her involvement with both drivers and them arriving to the paddock together this morning is their first public outing
User1 The real question is did they all leave the same hotel together this morning?
-> F1forthegirls I hate to be that person but if they all arrived together this morning it can be assumed they left the hotel together.
-> User2 I’m staying in the same hotel as most of the crew and drivers and saw them leave together this morning! They got off the elevator together and Y/N was sandwiched between the two of them while they waited for their car.
-> User3 the plot is getting thickerrrrrrrr
User4 is anyone able to find details on if they all have their own rooms or not?
-> F1forthegirls we report on the information we are given, we will not invade the driver’s privacy to try and confirm an speculations.
-> User3 respectful queens
-> Xx.y/n.xX is it really respectful when every single move I make is currently being watched and talked about?
-> User4 OH MY GOD
-> Xx.y/n.xX I was actually being kind of serious but okay...
-> F1forthegirls If you'd like to reply to us directly feel free to DM us! We'd be happy to share your side also!
-> Xx.y/n.xX 🙄
User3 are we not going to talk about Y/N/ being annoyed in the replies??
-> User2 Like no girly you're the one who chose to step out into public with these men and post THAT on your Instagram story for the whole ass world to see
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User5 WAIT this is INSANE, the FIA really said give the girlies what they want with COTA.
-> User6 NO because I NEED to know who's behind this tomfoolery. They really said HERE YOU GO when they gave us Lestappen pressers.
-> User7 Ferrari and RB are doing a fan event together later too.
-> User5 their media teams know what they're doing. You'd think they'd want to quash any rumors flying around. Two drivers in a relationship with the same girl???
-> User8 Not to be THAT person but they're potentially looking at pulling in a pretty new demographic to the sport and they'd be fans of arguably two of the most recognizable teams in the sport.
-> User9 No because that's smart... maybe this whole thing had been an RB pub stunt and Charles just got pulled in??? Lando too TBH.
-> User8 RIGHT??? Pulling in the gamer girlies with max and Y/N streaming together first and Charles and Lando just kind of got dragged into it.
-> User10 I feel like they were going for a love triangle and Max and Charles are just too nice for that and it turned into whatever this friendship is. Lando and Y/N just give sibling vibes, McLaren is bound to get some fans from that dynamic also.
F1forthegirls We would once again like to state that we personally will not speculate on the driver's personal relationships on this page, our twitter is purely for news. If you want a more in depth take on F1 news each week tune into our podcast that releases Monday at noon eastern time!
-> User11 we don't speculate on drivers relationships here but we will absolutely do it on our podcast. we love hypocritical queens. Please leave Max, Charles and Y/N alone.
-> User12 girl this is not a good look they're public figures
-> User11 Public figures who still deserve privacy
-> User13 I think they deserve privacy but if they are in a poly relationship I don't think y'all realize how good and bad this could be at the same time
-> User14 I don't think Red Bull and Ferrari of all teams would be overjoyed to see their two top drivers in a relationship with the same girl.
-> User13 But consider the fact that this would really be one of the first public poly couples of such a high status
-> User15 I work in marketing in motorsports and the teams would either dive head first with marketing or absolutely not allow it to be public.
->User14 From a contract standpoint they'd need to write in so many NDA's for Max and Charles so they can't share team information or anything.
-> User15 They probably already have those NDA's in place...
->Xx.y/n.xX do I get a say in this conversation or?????
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Xx.y/n.xX just added to their story
REPLIES ARE DIABLED FOR THIS STORY
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Xx.y/n.xX Mama told me to only date winners, so I picked two. As Miley Cyrus once said "It's a party in the U.S.A."
-> Yourbestfriend HARD LAUNCH OF THE CENTURY
-> Xx.y/n.xX 😘
Maxverstappen1 ❤️
-> Charles_leclerc 💕💕
-> Xx.y/n.xX @ maxverstappen1 Char put two hearts I think he wins
-> Charles_leclerc I also got first place in the actual race Max only got first in the sprint 🙄
-> Xx.y/n.xX @ maxverstappen1 he has a point Maxie
-> Landonorris ew save the nicknames please
-> Xx.y/n.xX I'm sorry mister 5 second penalty I didn't say you could speak.
Liked by @ maxverstappen1
-> Danielricciardo C O L D
-> Xx.y/n.xX please Danny, it was a burn. I lit your ass on fire with that one @ Landonorris
User16 IM SORRY WHAT IS THIS HARD LAUNCH
-> Redbullracing an admin approved one 👍
-> Scuderiaferrari 🤭
-> User17 NOT THE ADMINS GIGGLING OVER THIS
-> User18 Admins commenting makes me think they aren't joking with this one
-> User16 No like the admins are literally insane for this.
User19 this is going to make or break the F1 community
-> User20 I just want to know the dynamic
-> User21 Lestappen girlies are QUAKING in the wake of this one
Danielricciardo SO I PUT MY HANDS UP THEY'RE PLAYING MY SONG
-> Xx.y/n.xX THE BUTTERFLIES FLY AWAY I'M NODDING MY HEAD LIKE YEAH
-> Danielricciardo I will make sure they play this BANGER at the afterparty
-> Xx.y/n.xX Like it isn't first on my list Mr. Ricciardo
-> Danielricciardo @ georgerussell63 @ alex_albon @ landonorris you British boys will be shaking in your boots hearing this one at the club
-> Georgerussell63 Yee Haw 🤠
-> Alex_albon please I'm a seasoned pro with this one
-> Landonorris you doubt my abilities when drinks, me and y/n are mixed together
-> Xx.y/n.xX 🫡
Oscarpiastri MOM, DAD... and dad??? YEAH.
-> Xx.y/n.xX SON
-> Xx.y/n.xX @ mclaren I like this one more tell Lando to go off track more often
-> Landonorris I'm not buying a round tonight now
-> Xx.y/n.xX please, as soon as T-Swift comes on you're a GONNER
User22 BUT WHY IS Y/N EXPOSING ALL OF THEM KIND OF HYSTERICAL.
-> User23 the girly we needed and never knew it
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Maxverstappen1 that you COTA!
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Charles_leclerc BEST. RACE. EVER.
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IN THE HONOUR OF SPOOKTOBER, HERE ARE SOME FIC RECS THAT WERE VERY ENTERTAINING AND SCARY AT THE SAME TIME
These fics can be a bit disturbing, so read at your own discretion. contain smut/suggestive themes. warning has been given, pls beware with your decisions.
∞ THE DOLL HOUSE | @ja3yun
synopsis: when you're strapped for cash and an opportunity arises to help you out, you're stuck in a mansion with 4 human-like dolls who do anything but sit still.
BOY WAS THIS A JOURNEY! The concept is just very interesting and i think it is PERFECT for this month. All the dolls have different personalities and their dynamics compliment each other. As you're reading the series, you might fall for jake or jay or sunghoon. nah nah honey, JUST WAIT TILL YOU GET TO HEESEUNG!! it is absolutely insane but i quite loved it! he is ultimately the alpha (please💀) and you might not agree at first but just you wait. I love how they all are so different from each other, like jake is that submissive shy one, jay is your iconic flirty one and sunghoon i believe was cold to the mc at first. and heeseung, he was just a mix of all but nowhere a sub LMAO. if anyone wondering, hoon is my fav 🤭 I RECCOMEND, READ THIS!!!!
∞ DEVIL KNIGHT'S PREY | @/dollyun
HELP SHE'S GONE 😭😭😭 I REALLY DK WHAT HAPPEND BUT I STILL WANT TO SHOW HER APPRECITAION FOR WRITING SUCH AN AMAZING FIC. IF SHE EVER COMES ON HERE AND SHE SEES THIS, HI KNOW THAT THERE ARE PPL HERE WHO CARE ABOUT YOU AND ONE OF THEM IS ME.
it was so so so interesting and horrific but very intriguing all at the same time and I truly loved her fic. ALL PARTS OF IT IT WAS JUST SO GOOD. i remember sending as ask to her saying it was nothing like what i usually read but I enjoyed all through out. I don't remember much but I loved the 'devil games' it gave like mafia irl but no one does anything. in this fic, hee was my fav. ever since he was introduced (i believe he was silver mask), you could just sense the main character energy from his character and the way he talks to mc. there was something about her writing and it was jus very alluring how each character's story was written. my fav was the maze scene (ifykyk). If you love dark romance books, you would've loved this one. TRULY LOVED THIS ONE, I WOULD'VE SAID YOU SHD READ IT BUT WE CAN'T ANYMORE SOO-
∞ I WOULD GIVE UP HEAVEN IF I HAD TO | @drunkhazed
genre. step-siblings AU, pwp, dubcon, love triangle, fluff smut humor angst etc
it's not really as dark (now that i think about it maybe not dark at all) as the other two but i do think it's perfect to read during this season. ik ik it's not one but two step brothers and ppl hate it but hey, give this one a chance, trust me. im not a fan of step-sibling trope myself but this blew my mind. the whole time you read it, you forget they are step-siblings and you have to lowkey remind yourself. i like the plot, it honestly felt like watching a movie and i loved the humor. in this one, its sunghoon. he was just the type to tease and be cocky and behave all push and pull but im all for it. heeseung was sweet and cute, but sunghoon's character definitely dominated over hee's for me. the paris trip was everythinggg it just gave so much potential to sunghoon and he was just all swoony and ughh. IF YOU DON'T MIND THE STEP SIBLING PART, I RECCOMEND YOU READ THIS.
#abby recs 🤩#honestly thought i read more dark fics but i jus can't remember them-#myb i shd do a angstober recc cus i def read more angst than dark horror themes#enhypen#enhypen au#enhypen fanfiction#enhypen hard hours#enhypen imagines#enhypen recs#enhypen x reader
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Coming back from the dead for Heartbreak High S2∘—✧₊
Freaking out crying sobbing smiling laughing!!!!!!!!!!
Breakdown of trailer and initial reactions:
Amerie and Malakai are FWBs (strangers-to-friends-to-lovers-to-friends-to-FWBs-to-lovers slow burn i see the vision)
New love interest for Amerie causing a love triangle (I would theorize it ending up as a throuple if only Malakai didn't say he was done with threesomes lol) (i prob wont want them to end up as a throuple tho. we'll see when we meet this guy)
Ant and Harper ???? (kinda into it idk. did yall see that part where she tackled him on the field? Ant will be into being dominated i swear to god. we've already had one love interest that made her feel small we dont need another. also ant would never)
Missy and Spider ???? (so many random pairings this season i love it. if you think about it tho who better to put spider in his fucking place than Missy? it could work it could work) (thank fuck amerie/spider aint happening lmao sorry to yalls stans)
"Amerie's an asshole" again (idk what it is but youll never make me hate her so im not even gonna waste time trying to figure it out)
Malakai and Darren ???? (that feels cursed idk im sorry. they are siblingS. do yall not remember "do u want something gay to wear?" "yes pls" ?? it's giving eldest child and baby bro. But also i think it mightve just been a trailer bait type of thing. we're never giving up on ca$h and the writers should know that)
Darren in their celibacy era (I have no faith in u girlie but i love u dw)
idk what's up with Quinni but im still gonna mention her because I MISS HER SO MUCHHHHHHHHHHH please don't get back together with Sasha
I am very here for Amerie/Malakai, Ant/Harper and generally having a deeper dive into Ant, Missy and Spider. I want to see an out and about Malakai, cutesy dates for all my ships, even more Quinni & Darren, and Harper's friendship dynamics w everyone in the group.
SO EXCITED !!!!
#heartbreak high#heartbreak high season 2#amerie wadia#malakai mitchell#darren rivers#quinni gallagher jones#harper mclean#ca$h piggott#ant i still dont know his last name#missy i dont know her last name either#amerie x malakai#harper x ant#missy x spider#ca$h x darren
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My opinions on EVERY romantic stranger things ship (at least the ones I could think of, if I missed a ship you care about let me know and ill tell you what i think)
And of course, these are my OPINIONS and aren't that serious 🙏🙏 you can ship whatever the hell you want as long as it's not illegal.
I love making posts like these and sharing my opinions so please keep it respectful even if I don't like your ship, thank you :)
Mileven (Mike x Eleven): solid 8/10. I think they're cute in the 1st season and they have their moments, but their chemistry is definitely feeling more forced recently and I just don't see them working out.
Byler (Will x Mike): definitely a 10/10, it just makes sense. Byler proof is so thick and it's so obvious to anyone who actually cares to look. I'm not a hardcore shipper or anything but they're happening.
Willel (Will x Eleven): get this shit out of here bro, -10/10. Like Will is gay and they're practically siblings 😭
Wheelson (Dustin x Mike): there's nothing wrong with this ship, I just don't see it and I haven't seen enough content to base my opinion off of that so 0/10.
Wheelclair (Mike x Lucas): again, just don't see it and haven't seen enough content. So 0/10, however, I feel like their dynamic could be cute in both a romantic and platonic sense.
Byclair (Will x Lucas): I don't see it ever happening but oh my lord y'all the fan art and content for them is so cute so they get a solid 3/10 purely for the cuteness.
Byson (Will x Dustin): I've never seen any content for this. Like at all. I don't think anyone ships this. 0/10 only because I haven't seen anything to make me want to ship this.
Henclair (Lucas x Dustin): y'all... they're so cute. Here me out, the fics, the fan art, the dynamics, it's amazing. They get a 5/10.
Lumax (Lucas x Max): 10/10, angel babies, would die for them. I need them to have a happy ending and if they don't, I won't have a happy ending
Elmax (Eleven x Max): they're so stinking cute, 9/10. As much as I love lumax, I think the dynamics of this ship and just the thought of it is perfection.
Madwheeler (Max x Mike): eh...no. 0/10. They are like the same person and would kill each other in any other scenario. However, platonically? Yes please!
Henfield (Max x Dustin): 4/10. They have potential but they both have such better ships.
Duzie (Dustin x Suzie): 9/10. I am a SUCKER for nerd x nerd ships and I need them to have at least one scene together. Just one. Like please duffers, I need to see them just once.
Jancy (Jonathan x Nancy): 1000/10 YES YES YES YES. MY BABIES, I LOVE THEM SO MUCH. PLEASE DUFFERS, MAKE UP ALL THAT FUCKERY IN S4 AND GIVE THEM A HAPPY ENDING!!
Stancy aka Stanky (Steve x Nancy): -10/10. I hate this ship so much. Nancy "I don't think my parents ever loved each other. My mom was younger and my dad was older with a cushy job and made good money. So they got married and bought a house at the end of a cul-de-sac and started their nuclear family" Wheeler would EVER settle down with 6 kids. Ever. There was 0 reason to bring back the love triangle. Let Steve move on and let Nancy be happy, Jesus 😭
Ronance (Nancy x Robin): 100/10. There's a reason this page is called ronancecats. I love them so much and even though they will never happen, it's fun to think about. Every piece of ronance fan art is gorgeous and the fics are everything to me. Plus, Natalia is like the president of the ronance shipping club. "All hail Natalia Dyer," we all say in unison.
Rockie/Rovickie (Robin x Vickie): 6/10. They're cute but they literally made Vickie an exact carbon copy of Robin and it's boring. I really hope they build on Vickie's character next season because they are boring and lack depth.
Stobin (Steve x Robin): absolutely not. Get out. -100000000/10. Robin. Is. A. Lesbian. She. Likes. Boobies. Not. Greasy. Men. They. Are. Platonic. Soulmates.
Steddie (Steve x Eddie): 4/10. Their fan art is cool and the dynamic I like, but I just can't get past it. I don't like them all that much.
Harringgrove (Steve x Billy): no thank you, no toxic ships here. 0/10.
Stonathan (Jonathan x Steve): hell yes. 9/10. I'm not even sure why but they are just perfect in my mind. The dynamics are there and the fan art is perfection, plus I just think the idea of them fighting over Nancy but then turning to each other is kinda cute.
Jargyle (Jonathan x Argyle) 8/10. I don't think about them much but whenever I do I love it. They're idiots but two idiots that are better together idk about y'all.
Neddie (Nancy x Eddie): Eddie can NOT handle all that (but I can) 0/10.
Reddie (Robin x Eddie): 0/10. Both these bitches are gay so get out.
Hellcheer (Eddie x Chrissy): gives me the ick. I'm not ever sure why but they do and all their scenes just feel like there's no romantic undertones, at least to me. So 2/10.
Buckingham (Chrissy x Robin): this is what I'm talking about. A popular cheerleader having an existential crisis when she realizes she's a lesbian and not only that but realizes she's in love with the social outcast? Hell yes. 9/10. Give it to me.
Bancy (Nancy x Barb): 6/10. They are tragic.
Jopper (Joyce x Hopper): 10/10. My parents fr, they raised me. Everything about them makes me happy and I love them.
Boyce (Bob x Joyce): 7/10. Cuties and it's so obvious Bob cared about her and the kids. Jopper will forever be better but I can't ignore their cuteness.
Jaren (Joyce x Karen): okay y'all, hear me out...8/10. I love the idea of this so much and every single fic I've read is so well written and incredible. Lesbian Karen Wheeler truthers unite.
Murlexi (Murray x Alexi) 7/10. I like the idea of them and I will support any content I see of them even though I'm not a hardcore shipper.
Murray x Joyce (what are they called?): 0/10. Nope, nope, nope on a rope.
Okay, anyway y'all those are my opinions on a bunch of stranger things ships that I've seen. Please be respectful even if you don't agree, these are literally opinions about a FICTIONAL show and FICTIONAL relationships with FICTIONAL characters and aren't that deep.
#stranger things#opinion#ships#mileven#byler#lumax#elmax#henclair#byclair#duzie#madwheeler#jancy#ronance#jargyle#steddie#stonathan#stobin#jopper#karen x joyce#rovickie#buckingham#anti stancy
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"SMASH AND GRAB"
"THE BAD BATCH FEM READER X HUNTER/ECHO ACTION/ANGST FAN FIC"
Angsty angst between the reader (mildly Force sensitive/empath-nothing super powerful), a lover and a friend regarding the fate of the squad. Someone needs to listen and realize there is more than one future for Clone FAMILY 99.
BE PUNK. DO CRIME. FIGHT FACISM.
Background: Love is hard and I wanted to capture a relationship that is trying to survive in a time of chaos and oppression. Where nothing is a sure bet, and the thought of losing loved ones is terrifying and a real possibility. How long can CF99 stay hidden on Ord Mantell? The reader experiences a sense of dread that their sanctuary may not last long.
...with a little Punk shenanigans thrown in to show the Fascists just WHO they are kriffin' around with!
Y'all, this started as a fun romp in Punk Crime...then got REAL deep. Couldn't help the word count. The story just kind wrote itself.
Note: This story hints at a possible LOVE TRIANGLE. Not extremely apparent. But those of you who code Hunter as "The Boyfriend" and code Echo as "The Close Friend" might see it. Also, Passion and Practicality as dramatic opposites.
Those of you who wish to NOT SEE A LOVE TRIANGLE. Please just read this dynamic as a caring lover vs a caring friend. Hopefully it's ambiguous enough for EVERYONE.
People who aren't particularly fond of Hunter's character arc while on Ord Mantell during S2 of the actual series will LOVE that I pick on him a bit in this fic.
Word Count: 3.5K
WARNING: Star Wars Canon Violence, someone is stabbed in shoulder w/no mention of blood, blood smear on a bottle, fear, angst, maybe mild swearing, briefly implied sex in one sentence.
(Credit: Cool moving star dividers by @4ngelic-wh1spers )
“Aww...” Omega kicked the dirt and hung her head...twisting the pendant around her neck.
“Sorry kiddo. We just...don’t have the credits.” I shrugged feeling defeated.
She gave one last glance at the chocolate bar, nodded and shuffled off to the next vendor’s stand.
“Hey.” Getting the attention of the vendor who owned the stand. “Would you take 2 credits instead of 3? For the kid??” Pointing in Omega’s direction.
It was worth a try.
“Come back when ya got the credits...or DON’T come back AT ALL!” The vendor waved me away from their stand.’
“Geez, you don’t have to be so RUDE about it!” I shot back as I left to catch up with Omega.
The vendor yelled after me “YOU PEOPLE...always wanting a handout! Glad the Empire is cleaning up the planets in this system. SICK OF YOUR KIND!”
I waved back to him with a very specific hand signal...
Being poor sucks.
We’ve been scraping by since working for Cid on Ord Mantell. Hunter and I have been talking about taking the squad and bailing soon...
...after the NEXT job.
We’ve been talking about this for a while. But it’s always about the NEXT job...even if that was the last job we just did.
He’s scared to leave and face the unknown.
It’s the devil he knows. And, somehow, it’s a kind of unfavorable comfort.
But I HATE that Cid holds shit over our heads constantly.
It’s making me seethe. Making me resent my scared lover a bit. And it breaks my heart that Omega can’t be a child...
If Crosshair was here, he’d have set shit straight right away...
But The Empire took him away from us.
Echo agrees with me and tries to reason with Hunter.
Tech gets sidetracked with everything going on.
Wrecker, ever the supportive sibling goes along for the ride.
Omega falls in with them too. It’s all an adventure for her...
Until it’s not. And, I’m worried that’s going to be very soon.
I can feel it.
Every day SOMETHING is getting closer.
And, I itch to escape this planet.
But I WON’T go without them. Life is nothing without them ALL.
My opinion: We ALL can do better somewhere else. Somewhere that WON’T have us living hand to mouth.
But we MUST leave Ord Mantell. Or we’ll never know what the future might hold for us.
ANOTHER mission for Cid. And this one requiring that I and Omega stay behind for “safety reasons.”
Hunter’s words, not mine.
And this time Echo spoke up “The fact that we are leaving them behind means it’s time for us to terminate Cid’s employ.”
“Where would we go? Cid was YOUR contact, remember.” Hunter shot back.
Echo nodded across the room to me “She can FEEL it. I believe her that we don’t have much time left. Can’t you feel it too???”
Hunter sat down wearily and sighed. “EVERYTHING has been a blur since losing Crosshair...” Putting his hand to his brow “Been missing a LOT lately.”
Omega is sitting next to me. I can see the panic in her eyes. “Why are they arguing?”
“Because they love us. And, making decisions for the ones you love is difficult.” I didn’t want to tell Omega that these men who normally have such a close camaraderie are only openly arguing because they are AFRAID. The dynamic in our squad is starting to break down. She’s seen and been through enough. I try to shield her from what I can when I can.
Tech and Wrecker weighed in on the situation...which now REALLY doesn’t help.
Their voices rose higher. I don’t hear the words anymore. Just FEEL the emotions behind them: accusations, defensiveness, declarations to fight the Empire, plans to score big one last time and retire for good...
I can’t sit here anymore. Gently took Omega’s hand, leading her out of Cid’s Parlor with the lure of a “window shopping” to blow off steam. Basically poor-person's shopping.
She stops at the doorway, looking up at me. So many emotions on her face. “Shouldn't we tell them where we’re going?” Omega remembers the last time she stepped out without checking in.
I survey the loud debate between four grown men...four grown men who are scared, unsure boys who never had to live this way before. My heart went out to every one of them. I tried to tell them, to contribute to this discussion...so many times. But they defer to two polar opposites with nothing in-between:
Stay and keep working for Cid, hoping to eventually get ahead...then go retire on some fictional planet with a slim hope the Empire will never find us.
Or, leave Ord Mantell forever and fly away with false fantasies of a battle leading to victory while heading right into the belly of the BEAST.
“They won’t notice.” It wasn’t the best answer...but I was mentally and emotionally exhausted. “We’ll be back before then...”
Omega, not totally buying my reply, still relented...
But not without an unsure glance behind her at her brother’s grousing.
Apparently...they DID notice.
“Just where did you both go???” Hunters concerned and frustrated face met us as we descended the stairs.
I could see Echo across the room sitting at the bar “pretending” not to pay attention to our conversation.
“Omega and I wanted to skip the big multi-person argument.” I cooly clapped back.
He relaxed after seeing Omega with a big smile on her face.
Then tensed up after she told him why she’s smiling:
“Hunter, I met a Wino tonight. He smells funny, but he does fantastic magic tricks!”
Then she skipped away to see what Tech had on his datapad. Wrecker handed her a fizzy kiddy beverage dressed up with a slice of Meileroon on the rim.
Hunter gave me a... face. The kind he gives me when I have some explaining to do.
“What?”
He sighed.
“Please use your words.”
“Ok. DON’T leave without telling us where you are going. Double if Omega is with you.”
“Sure thing, Sergeant.” Then I turned and walked away. Settling in the furthest corner of the bar to be alone.
Hunter shook his head and scoffed. Strolled defeatedly back to the bar, then gave Tech a slight bump on the shoulder. Tech immediately slid off the stool and followed Hunter into Cid’s empty office...and shut the door.
I leaned back into the sofa and closed my eyes. I felt so exhausted...
A few minutes later a warm hand patted my shoulder. I opened my eyes.
Echo set down a drink on the table beside me. “Glad you and Omega are back. We get worried sometimes. Things are getting...complicated and dangerous. He’s...WE are ALL looking out for you both.”
He walked away and entered Cid’s office, closing the door behind him.
Kriff...they DEFINITELY are planning ANOTHER mission...
Put it all out of my mind and settled in to watch Wrecker and Omega play several rounds of “KABOOM!” It’s a chaotic card game Wrecker made up to keep Omega busy. She loves Dejarik, but Wrecker tires of it easily. KABOOM! is really an old card deck CF99 has carried with them forever, and Wrecker has scrawled writing all over them with his own “game script.”
“KABOOM!” Omega yells after she picks a particular marked card. Then throws her hand up into the air to symbolize an explosion...
Kaboom indeed...hopefully not us and not anytime soon...but the cards will fall wherever they may...I have no control over them.
“Hey...” Smoky whisper in my ear.
I open my eyes and see Hunter hovering over me. His eyes are soft and loving while he runs his fingers though my hair. I’m covered with a blanket and there’s a pillow under my head. The game room is empty, silent, and dark.
“How long have I been out?”
“Couple hours.” Then he plants a kiss on my forehead. “Apologies for earlier today.”
“Accepted. I could have handled that interaction better myself...”
“No...I’ve...got to get my shit together.”
“I won’t argue with that.” I snicker.
He smiles. It’s been SO long since I’ve seen him do that. My heart aches for a time before this one...a simpler time for all of us.
His expression switches to a forlorn one...
“You’re leaving soon...”
“Yes. But I promise it’s the LAST mission for Cid. EVER.”
“I recall you’ve said that before.” I grumped, attempting to get up from the couch.
“But this time I MEAN it.” He grabs my hand and I stop.
He drops something cold into my palm and the chain it’s attached to trails out of his hand. Then he cups his hand affectionately under mine.
It’s a necklace. The pendant a shard of deep green meteorite Hunter and I had witnessed impacting a planet when we first kissed. How’s that for symbolism? When it finally cooled, he snuck back to the site, fishing it out and surprised me with this as a gift. Carried in my pockets for forever...until recently I thought it had been lost.
“You got sneaky there, Bandana.”
“Tech set it so you can wear it. It’s made of the metal that doesn’t irritate your skin...that doesn’t sound very romantic...does it?” Hunter grimaced.
I snort and it elicits a chuckle from him. “For most people, probably not. But I deeply appreciate the gesture. Also, the practicality. Thanks.” His words may falter, but I can FEEL the intensity of his emotions in this moment. The depth of his affection and devotion.
He lovingly takes the necklace from my hand and clasps it around my neck. I lift the blanket and Hunter crawls in next to me on the sofa.
“I love you so much Y/N. Have a hard time showing it sometimes...please understand I just want the best for us...”
I shush him with my finger to his lips. “I love you too, Hunter...and I struggle in the same way. Let’s call a truce...for tonight.”
He nods and I kiss him...kiss him with all the fire and passion that I cannot say with words. He answers my love language in kind. We heat up that sofa like nothing it’s ever seen before.
That fateful day I’ve been worried about finally came...
An Imperial Class Venator loomed over the city.
So large, it blocked out part of the sun.
White armored stormtroopers, dispatched to the planet swarmed Ord Mantell. They kicked in doors and terrorized the locals.
Were they searching for us? Or just taking over the planet, like so many others in the galaxy?
“Havoc 1, do you copy?” Echo tries to comm Hunter...
Nothing.
“Empire is jamming all ground communications.” He sneered.
Omega and I sat crouched across from Echo under a vendor table. The tablecloth kept us hidden.
Today was our day to shop for supplies. Of course, Echo tagged along. If Hunter wasn’t with us, it would always be Echo.
I was already a bundle of nerves that my “bad feeling” came true. Echo’s presence helped me keep it hidden around Omega.
“Oh NO!” Omega started to fret. “Maybe they’ve been captured? How will they find us? We’ll be separated!” The fear rising in her voice made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
I put my arm around her, giving a firm squeeze. “Don’t worry, Hunter and Tech probably got it under control. And Wrecker will smash heads.”
“Yeah, kiddo what Y/N said.” Echo put a calm face on it.
He knew something I didn’t...I could FEEL it.
“We need to get to them!” Omega whispered
“No Havoc 5. We’re sitting tight. They’ll find us.” Echo winked.
He DID know something...
“Out with it, Echo.”
“What?” His expression innocent.
“What do YOU know that Omega and I don’t?”
“Nothing...” Smiling with that shit eating grin if his. Sassy, yet charming.
Omega and I glance at one another. Then glare at Echo.
“Hey, I was sworn to secrecy.” His expression turned from mild to hardened soldier as the sound of marching feet rounded the corner of the vendor’s square.
Echo silently pulled his weapon...having it on the ready.
They stopped next to our table.
“FREEZE Civilian! Come out with your hands up!!!”
All three of us froze, staring at one another.
Echo had a look...like he was ready to kill whoever was out there...
Omega put both hands over her mouth. Her eyes wide in abject fear.
I squeezed her closer to me...
The trooper violently kicked over the table...
...next to us.
A man’s scream rang out and continued to do so as they beat and kicked him.
We recognized the voice. It was the local street wino. Nice man...just liked his Spotchka a bit TOO much.
“Evading Emperial soldiers is a crime Civilian...so is stealing.”
The wino’s bottle of unopened Spotchka rolled under the table, stopping to rest against my knee...
...blood smeared across it.
A trooper’s hand groped under the tablecloth for the bottle.
Omega mewled in terror quietly behind her hands.
Echo readjusted the grip on his weapon.
I silently pulled the small vibro dagger from my belt...
...hovering it over the groping hand.
“LEAVE IT!” Another trooper barked at the one reaching for the bottle.
“I’VE ALMOST GOT IT!” He crankily barked back.
The hand hovered over the bottle...
Then suddenly gripped my leg and yanked me out from under the table!
The trooper seemed shocked at what he pulled out. He crouched there staring dumbly at me. I lay in the dust stunned...
...for a split second...
Then I viciously stabbed him in the shoulder.
The trooper screamed. Echo knocked the table over and opened fired on the rest of the Imps. He laid them all to rest efficiently.
But our cover was blown.
I pulled my dagger from the dead trooper, sheathing it.
The wino, bloody and battered, staggered to his feet.
“THERE THEY ARE!!!”
All of us turned to see the vendor from the other day pointing in our direction. He was standing at his stall with a HUGE satisfied grin on his face.
More imps passed him running toward us. The wino found his feet and fled quickly from the scene.
To add insult to injury, the vendor felt the need to keep speaking...
“WARNED YOU THE EMPIRE IS CLEANING UP THE GALAXY! YOU PEOPLE DON’T DESERVE TO LIVE...”
The roar of an engine overhead thankfully drowned out the rest.
Tech fired the Marauder’s cannons into the crowd of Imps, decimating them. Then swooped in lower to pick us up.
Echo grabbed Omega’s hand, and before she could be whisked away, she pushed something cold and hard into my hand...
The bottle of Spotchka...opened...with a strip of the torn tablecloth stuffed into it...
A makeshift wick.
Did I mention how much I LOVE THAT LITTLE HOOLIGAN!
The vendor locked eyes with me. His hateful stare...all the horrible things he said to us while on Ord Mantell...his lack of empathy for our plight...his open contempt for the poor...outcasts...those that don’t fit into HIS version of society...his alliance with The Empire...the unyielding hand of power beating down EVERYONE in the galaxy...
RIGHTOUS ANGER welled up within me...
We kept eye contact as I calmly pulled the small torch from my belt.
And lit the wick.
Then smiled at that kriffing piece of Bantha waste.
The haughty expression left his face damned quick...and he turned tail and ran.
I chucked that Flaming Bottle of Rebellion as hard as I possibly could and ran towards the ship. The explosion rang out as I reached the Marauder, pushing me backwards onto the gangplank.
All manner of debris rained down from the sky.
And... for some STRANGE reason, I reached out to catch one particular piece...
...just a FEELING...a hunch...some random, strange reflex...no thinking involved whatsoever...
My arms enclosed around it...as it slammed squarely into my midsection, knocking the wind out of me...
I gasped for air...
Barely registering Hunter reaching out and yanking me into the Marauder...
The flight away from Ord Mantell was ROCKY with extremely heavy space traffic!
Tech navigated through all manner of passenger and cargo ships around the planet trying to escape being captured by the Empire. Echo at his side assisting with hyperspace jump codes.
Just the thing we needed to get away undetected...for now.
Hunter rubbed my back as I struggled to breathe. Finally, I got my wind back, then looked down at what hit me in the gut.
A FULL unopened box of exported Coruscant designer chocolate bars.
“Huh...sometimes that Force stuff really does work out.” I muttered. “OMEGA!”
She ran over.
"Here ya go, kiddo.” Handing her the whole box. “Btw...thanks for the Spotchka Cocktail.”
She smiled like a fox in an Endorian henhouse and ran away with the box. I could hear Wrecker’s excited voice as he helped her open it.
I gently fell back and relaxed against Hunter’s chest, exhaling away all the stress.
He put his arms around me, inhaling the scent of my hair.
“Hey?”
“Hmmm?” He hummed into my hair.
“How did you know EXACTLY where we were?”
His hand slowly snaked up and tapped the keepsake necklace around my neck.
“You...have a TRACKER on...ME???” I glanced over to the necklace around Omega’s neck.
“Uh huh.” Tracing a heart shape slowly against the skin of my chest.
He didn’t even have to look up from nuzzling my hair. Hunter KNEW I understood Omega was also carrying one as well.
I glanced across the Marauder to Echo.
“YOU LITTLE MECHANICAL SHIT!” I teased.
“Of course. You wouldn’t expect anything less?” He smirked, then swung his chair around to converse with Tech.
“So...you put a bell and collar on us BOTH?” I addressed Hunter.
“For safety reasons only. Can’t have anything bad happening to our girls.” He caressed my face. “Originally it was only for Omega...you know...her wandering off problem. Just couldn’t cope if we lost you both...”
I sat up to turn around and face him. Putting his face in my hands.
“Hunter, we’re finally free from Cid and Ord Mantell. But I’m upset it took something like THIS for us to leave. I’ve been asking for MONTHS!”
Behind me I could FEEL Echo turning his attention back to us. FEEL him nodding in agreement with my statement. Almost FEEL him thinking “We got lucky this time.”
Hunter’s eyes flicked up to Echo, then back to me.
“You’re BOTH right. I’m sorry. Bad at this civilian business. I’ll do better in the future...we have one now.”
“Except for the Empire...” Echo clapped back.
Hunter’s eyes flicked back up to Echo. He nodded, slight defeat on his face.
“HUNTER.” I implored. His eyes focused back on me. “PROMISE me we’ll stay off the radar for a while...and make our OWN way as much as possible.”
“I promise.”
“PROMISE that you will LISTEN to me when I give you my input about what I sense and think. I’m an important part of this squad...oh let’s stop saying that...FAMILY!
Hunter waited...I felt him SENSING that I wasn’t done speaking. Was he finally getting his senses back???
“AND STOP STONEWALLING ME! It’s disrespectful. I’m a grown woman and your partner...hopefully for the long run...but it WON’T be if you don’t respect me and start having the harder conversations.”
Ouch...I could see that cut deep. What I said wasn’t hurtful. Hunter was recognizing his mistake. He was really listening to my brutal honesty.
“And...STOP beating yourself up...that’s MY job!”
He raised an eyebrow.
I finished...and could FEEL the weight of several pairs of eyes on us. Everyone else in the ship was watching my and Hunter’s interaction.
Hunter and I met every pair of eyes in the place.
“No arguing with her AT ALL! She’s RIGHT.” Echo smirked and turned back towards the Marauder's dash.
"Agreed.” Tech following suit.
“Let’s let them work it out, eh?” Wrecker put his hand on Omega’s shoulder.
Ever astute, Omega nodded, then took her box of chocolates and went to the gunner’s loft with Wrecker.
Hunter stared into my eyes with a clarity that I had only witnessed BEFORE our arrival to Ord Mantell “I’ve been neglecting you...and our relationship too.” He sighed. “If you would rather go off with Echo and run missions for the resistance, I wouldn't blame you.”
“It’s true that I may not want to totally settle down on some back-alley planet. But then, I’m certainly not ready to run off and wage war with a huge oppressive regime just yet, ok? Maybe something in-between. I’m not an all or nothing kind of gal.”
Hunter nodded and glanced briefly at Echo again. Then back to me.
“It’s true...I DO love him.” I revealed.
Hunter’s face showed a very brief, very hurt micro expression.
“But It’s true that I love YOU too. And I love Omega, Wrecker, and Tech... I still love Crosshair...wherever he is. I love you all so much sometimes it hurts. Love you all so much, that I can’t leave you even though I could feel the Empire closing in on us...”
“We don’t leave our own behind...” Hunter whispered.
“Never.” I answered. “Let’s work on being a family that can come together and plan our future...ok? If you and I DON’T plan our future, we won’t ever have one. Does that answer your question?”
“Completely.” Hunter’s voice cracked.
I put my arms around Hunter and held him close.
Then we quietly contemplated what the future would hold...and where we would go next.
Not before catching Echo’s expression and FEELING the words behind it:
You’re brave...and I’m very PROUD of you!
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Ok, I finished it. Here is my review, I'll do a little rewrite in a separate post. Spoilers for season 4.
Boy, am I sad that TUA was canceled after just two seasons!
For real though. This was shit. Truly and utterly shit. And it is a shame too, because it had potential.
Let's make something clear: TUA started as a parody/critique of superhero shows and an exploration of what happens when a superhero team akin to the Xmen split up. It explores how the superhero life can break someone, either from being a superhero or being pushed away from that life. Yes, the ending of season one with the world being destroyed was beautiful. But it shouldn't have been the main take away. Explaining the lore should never have been your take away. People watch the show for the characters, not your bullshit lore that makes no sense with made up elements and trying to redeem an abuser.
Season 2 was flawed, but it was beautiful, mostly because of Viktor and his discover of himself and who he was. I didn't really care for the other characters as much, but I still had a good time. It was fun! It was colorful! And people all and all felt like themselves, broken, messy but themselves.
Then came season 3, aka the character assassination of Allison Hargreeves, and I swear this season is just there to be there to make her unlikable, do the whole bullshit with Luther, who until that point was my least favorite character and then make you feel bad to dislike her as if she could be compared to Viktor in season 1. Viktor in season 1 was flawed, yes, but he didn't make every single decision to piss off the audience, and season 2 was all about him trying to prove himself to his siblings. But no. Allison just gets a get out of jail free card and gets everything go her way, but hey, if you ignore the shit show that was Allison's you have, well, you have what could have been an interesting dynamic between the families. It wasn't. But it could have been if the Sparrows hadn't been immediately killed.
And then we had season 4 which had the exact same issues as season 3 but worse because now, it isn't just Allison who is getting ruined, oh no, it is Fives, Lila and Diego because we need that forced romance and that stupid dreaded love triangle. And this is all this season is. A bunch of montages of nothing leading to an ending that is honestly very unsatisfying and doesn't make any sense:
A- They already were in a timeline where the Marigold was never released seeing as they didn't have any powers and yet they still existed.
B- They weren't the only source of Marigold. Maybe in this universe, but I'm pretty certain that Ben didn't drink all the Marigold. What about the guy Klaus splashed in Marigold? Did he get any powers? Christ, what is this bullshit?
C- No, no, I still need someone to explain to me why having multiple timelines is a bad thing??? What the fuck do you mean 'does this feel right?' There is a tentacle monster devouring that world, does that feel right? And that's the thing, you could fix this by saying that, instead of having multiple timelines be the issue, the issue is that the Marigold being released leads to the end of the world no matter what. Multiple timelines are a widely accepted theory, and isn't timelines bleeding into each other eventually going to fix the issue you have in the first place since it implies that they are all converging into one??? Stupidest time bullshit I've heard in a WHILE
D- This really leaves a sour taste in my mouth as does any and all endings that have 'death is the answer' as their conclusion. My dude, the whole point of the finale of season 1 was how no matter what, it's never too late, how people can still be saved, that's what they do with Viktor, it is all about healing and no we are abandoning that for what??? Getting gooed?! I hate this ending. I think that this trope needs to be killed and buried just like the characters they want to kill themselves.
But the ending is not even my main issue with this series. What is this show's issue with side characters? They just hate anyone who isn't Lila and the original Umbrella Academy. Why did we have to kill Luther's girlfriend in season 3? Why couldn't Fives have another love interest that wasn't the daughter of the people he killed AND the wife of his fucking brother? Also, Five felt weird this entire season, he lacked his quips and his mannerism and everything that made him Five, he just felt like a kid who was a genius or something except he never does anything particularly smart. He is just a completely different character, an emo kid who doesn't care about his family and is more interested in getting laid? Ugh. Back to the side characters, though, they implied that Viktor was having relationship issues in this season and yet that goes nowhere. Klaus and his sexuality is treated as a joke to the point of it being insulting and finally we have the final one. The big one. Ben and what's her face? I swear she gets like 10 lines max in the show despite being integral to the plot and 8 of them are spoken to Ben or about Ben. I've seen a lot of bad cases of female characters being just objects to their male counterparts but YIKES. That one was something. I'll talk more about this about my proposed rewrite for this season, however.
Also, Reginald does not deserve forgiveness. This is a Reginald hate account. Bro traumatized his son. The take away shouldn't be "maybe your abusive dad wasn't bad" the take away should be "your abusive dad doesn't deserve your forgiveness, get the fuck away from him, you don't need him, be with the people you love who love you back." Ah, found families, how I love you baby.
Those are my overall complaints. Everything else in this season hust felt pointless. You could have written this season to be 2 episodes long without really losing anything. The jokes were too childish, the choreography was ok I guess and the music (save baby shark, whoever decided to do that bit, I'm outside your house with a shotgun, don't worry, I just wanna talk) was the best part.
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so x-men 97 ended a month or so ago, I just finished last week and wanted to compose my thoughts.
the Bad
the soap opera level nature of the show is back and I get why it's there, but damn I was sick of the relationship drama when I was a kid, now that I'm 30 and don't care about any of the pairings in the show it's even more annoying. Except Romy, I love them, but could have done without a second love triangle.
Roberto's character felt weird and should have either been cut or been more involved with the X-Men as the new guy. He only really interacts with Jubilee because they intended to make them a couple from the start. There were better ways without just making them a couple or projecting it so hard.
I think 2 episodes were bad, ep 4 and ep 6. I personally don't care for the Shia'r or Prof X. The Jubilee stuff was fine but felt like filler which isn't really needed for a 10 ep show. And I don't think Storm's story was done justice.
Storm was underused. She's my favorite character and had a story about being depowered and getting them back that I thought started strong but didn't live up to the hype. Then despite coming back she doesn't have much plot significance and is just a powerful member of the team. Maybe season 2 will change that and I'm jumping the gun, but it felt like a waste. '
Morph was cool and I'm happy they are nonbinary in this show despite the writers keeping it in the 90's timezone. Not a huge fan of their character still though, I thought they were more cool with their powers than interesting as a character. Hopefully that will change in season 2
Magneto's plan by the end made no sense to me by the end. I know he was angry and pushed too far once more, but killing 7 billion people, mutants included. Yeah he made an offer to the x-men, but there are still hundreds of mutants that survived Genosha and he's putting a target on their back and they will also die without power. and he has 3 people in an asteroid above earth, what is the plan for things to continue
Also Bastion's plan was good, but I don't agree with the whole, people's response to tragedy that they don't care about is apathy. it's a hard world, but people care far more than you might think. It felt poorly written, like the show wanted to make all humans monsters so that's what happened. If the plan was to destroy Genosha and then let Magneto do his thing to get people to hate mutants because of what he would do afterwards I would understand, but it wasn't.
The Good
Overall, the whole series is a good adaption of the 90's series, warts and all. The love triangle stuff is annoying, but part of the show so I accept it and even the dumb puns made me smile. But the fact that they aged it up worked amazing, they blended seamlessly to me.
The action and animation were perfect to me, crisp and clear and dynamic. It let the characters show off what they could do in ways the 90's show and their restrictions wouldn't allow them to.
I liked most of the characters, Storm is my favorite character, Scott is my second, and Kurt is in my top 5. I mention that Storm kind of shafted, but Scott and Kurt were allowed to shine.
Kurt and Rogue's relationship was great, I'm glad that the writers remembered they were adopted siblings, I wondered after ep 5 if they did, but I also think calling each other sister or brother in the ep would have been awkward. The way they interact in later eps was perfect to me.
I like that people kept tell Xavier to shut up because I don't like him as a character. He has done so much shit and is still considered a hero in the comics, it makes him at best a naive fool and at worse the real villain of X-Men.
I like that Cyclops was so much more than the block of wood a lot of the fandom and even some writers make him out to be. He's a complex character and it's good to see that not only a deep character like he's supposed to be, but a good hero and leader.
I also like how the Cable stuff was done. like it's rocky and quick because they only have 10 eps but it was nice to see since Cable never revealed himself as Scott's son in the original show.
I love that the show wasn't just another version of the wolverine show. I like the character, but he's been over used and makes his appearances over saturated. He still had a presence in the show, but it doesn't make him the main character while shutting down other characters.
I will always love the family aspect of x-men, angry and fighting but loving all the same.
8 episodes of the show were great and I loved them, I would recommend it to anyone.
Ep 5 was the standout, and amazing. I loved how Gambit was portrayed as sympathetic and a good person with his relationship with Rogue and accepted that she wanted to be with Magneto. It was great to see him being allowed to be a badass as a swansong, even if I think he'll be death in season 2
#xmen#xmen 97#xmen 97 spoilers#scott summers#cyclops#magneto#erik lehnsherr#kurt wagner#nightcrawler
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what demigods from each cabin would get along together you think? Like I headcanon that the Hephaestus and Hecate kids get along because they’re always thinking up new things like be it spells or machinery. But I wanna hear your take on compatibility between godly parents? 😀
-Casimir 🔮Cabin 20🔮 Son of Hecate
oh i LOVE the idea of Hecate and Hephaestus kids getting up to mischief. I've thought about this a bit so I'll go through the ones I have strong dynamic ideas off the top of my head, sticking mostly to CHB's main 20 cabins and then a couple of bonuses. Also some bonus "who hates each other." (Under cut for length)
Ever since TLO the Apollo and Ares cabins have had an alliance. Mostly built out of the Ares kids feeling really guilty about arriving late to war and nearly all the Apollo kids dying in the Battle of Manhattan, wondering if there would have been fewer casualties between both cabins if they had gotten over their stubborn pride faster like the Apollo kids had. Ares kids kind of guard the Apollo kids and tolerate them more than other cabins, and the Apollo kids are considered off-limits for bullying.
Hephaestus, Ares, and Aphrodite kids have a very bizarre dynamic, besides the whole canonical love triangle curse nonsense they have going on. They tend to be drawn to each other one way or another. Very common to see them together. The question is just are they besties or are they trying to kill each other.
Big 3 kids either have immense solidarity or totally loathe each other and there's no in-between. Sometimes it's both.
Demeter and Hades kids have a very tenuous alliance. They're a little scared of each other. They would fight to the death over who gets to adopt a Persephone kid as a sibling though.
Besides Hades, Demeter kids either get along great or horribly with Big 3 kids. Again, no in-between, or sometimes both.
Zeus kids and Athena kids tend to get along like a house on fire. Insert School of Athens fresco here. They are Thinking Thoughts and will have the most passionate debates about the wildest topics you have ever heard.
Cabins 5 and 6 have a very strong ongoing rivalry. If it's a friendly rivalry or true rivalry shifts depending on counselors. They LOOOOVE competing with each other though, and have some amount of unwavering respect for each other as the war cabins. Post-TLO the Nike cabin starts getting in on that dynamic too and Cabins 5 and 6 are very excited for some new challenges.
Tyche and Nemesis cabins tend to be buddies
Apollo, Athena, Dionysus, and Iris cabins love being artsy together. 100% lead a lot of the art activities at camp.
Similarly, Athena, Apollo, Hephaestus, Hermes, and Hecate cabins love being nerdy together.
Chthonic solidarity! Hermes, Hades, Hypnos, Hecate, etc. Usually the other chthonic cabins are the only ones brave enough to poke fun at the Hades kids.
Mad scientist gang Athena, Hephaestus, Hecate. Sometimes the Apollo kids join in to help give them ideas and enable them.
Athena, Hecate, Apollo, and Hades meanwhile are Mad Scientist: Biology Edition™. They're dissecting weird stuff and will figure out how to make Frankenstein's monster.
Also, Athena, Apollo, Hebe - medical cabins gang. Vision/eye health, general health, and general health + youthfulness.
Demeter and Dionysus gardening buddies!!!!!! Sometimes they let the Apollo and Iris kids hang out too. Zeus and Poseidon kids are a strong "maybe."
Apollo and Hebe cabins get along super well, also with Zeus cabin. They're totally vibing being all youthful and beautiful together. Sometimes Aphrodite cabin also join them. Pretty cabins gangs.
Apollo, Iris, and Zeus cabins (and Hera cabin if there are actually any kids there for that. hi Jason) - sky deities buddies!
Dionysus cabin has a bizarre comradery with the Hades cabin nobody can figure out but everyone is mildly afraid of (it's Zagreus stuff).
Iris and Hermes kids get along super well. Iris cabin also probably loves hanging out with the Aphrodite and Apollo kids. They're talking about art and color theory.
Bonuses: Philotes + Aphrodite + Erotes kids obviously all get along fantastically. Psyche kids and Aphrodite kids either get along well or clash horribly.
Hebe and Ganymede kids are shaking hands. Cupbearer parents (who are also both youthful and pretty).
Iris and Arke kids are very one-in-the-same except the Arke kids all have So Many Problems. Iris kids tend to be "excuse me they asked for no pickles" on the Arke kids' behalf often.
Thetis kids and Arke kids have beef and it's kind of funny (cause Thetis got Arke's wings as a wedding gift after they were stolen from Arke as punishment for siding with the Titans).
Enyo/Bellona and Ares/Mars kids LOOOOVE each other. Immediate best friends. Same hat, spiderman pointing meme, etc etc. Absolutely built for each other. They just click. And also tend to enable each other a little bit. Do not let the Nike kids around both of them at the same time because they will all begin to enable each other in a feedback loop and get up to mayhem.
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Which Ships do you like about Avatar 2?
I am very neutral about ships tbh. I just kind of like all of them, but I don't have any that I really really hate or really really love (except for the pedophilic ones cause yikes!). I don't think I could muster up a strong opinion about ships if you put a gun to my head lol
I enjoy the canon ships of course, like JakeXNeytiri and Lo'akXTsireya, but I can also appreciate people playing around and exploring noncanon ships.
Like NeteyamXAonung is a popular noncanon ship, and while I don't really get where it came from, I can imagine they'd have an interesting dynamic with them starting out as rivals but then gradually developing a mutual respect for each other and realizing they have things in common as the eldest sons of their clans' olo'ektans.
NormXTsutey is another one I've seen that I think is fun just because of the opposites attract trope.
I also see the appeal of SpiderXKiri even though I'm personally hoping their relationship will stay platonic/sibling-like.
Polyamorous ships are also really fun, like JakeXNeytiriXTsu'tey, cause then you don't have to pick just two characters from a love triangle, you can have all three! I've seen some really cute fanart of Jake, Neytiri, and Tsu'tey starting a family together.
Bitter exes QuaritchXJake is probably the funniest interpretation of any Avatar ship, cause the way Quaritch lets Jake live in his head rent free 24/7 is pretty gay lmao. Plus they lowkey share custody of a kid together. "Neytiri, I'm sorry, but you're gonna have to kill my crazy evil ex if you want to marry me." "Ma Jake, I have to kill your WHAT?"
Honestly, I can appreciate any ship, whether it be canon, non-canon, or crackship. Imo, people get wayyy too upset about shipping sometimes. Unless it's pedophilic, who gives a shit if somebody wants to draw two characters kissing even if they would never kiss in canon, ya know?
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out of curiosity, what would it mean to you for fiction to replicate the maizula dynamic? like what features are most salient?
the heart of their relationship i think is replicable to an extent in that it's this sort of rotted love where you have known each other so long and so well that you couldn't not love each other but you have known each other so long and so well that you couldn't not hate each other as well. so that integral piece is absolutely something we can find in other relationship dynamics. like the rich girl/weird friend dynamic absolutely exists.
the sibling love triangle aspect with maiko's existence is also a hugely important and compelling aspect of maizula! this is techniaclly replicable in theory in terms of you can absolutely do love triangles where two members are related, but also it's so hard to duplicate the maizula-maiko triangle because mai is supposed to love zuko, and you can interpret her as actually loving him, and he feels like he's supposed to love her too, but they don't work fundamentally because he doesn't want to understand the worst parts of her, doesn't even want to admit that they exist, and she is so horribly caught up in azula who makes her feel so alive by acknowledging and knowing and seeing all these parts of her and bringing them out even more that she could say she chooses zuko because it's the right thing to do in terms of both heteronormativity and what choosing zuko represents, but i don't think realistically mai can actually turn away from azula and everything she's ever known and hated and loved and wanted to leave her alone and not known how to live without. not without regrets.
i think it's also so hard to replicate the way that their individual characters are and come together in the ship as a whole. like azula being a prodigious princess with such an insane relationship with gender and having such a tragic domestic origin and mai being a noblegirl who is so sullen and depressed and dead inside and has such an awful domestic life as well and who has to obey azula's orders but also absolutely doesn't do that because the power dynamic of their relationship is so complex by complete accident that while azula is higher ranking than mai socially and financially and in the military sense, mai absolutely has more power on an interpersonal level. that's something that you see a lot in lesser degrees in media with toxic female friendships sure, but never to the extent that one of the parties can literally have the other executed if she wants to, but she chooses not to do so even when she imprisons her former friend.
i wrote a mini essay on this here, but the way in which they play with the rich girl/weird friend dynamic is also INSANE on a level i have yet to see anyone else touch really except maybe rhaenicent.
speaking of other posts i've made abt their dynamic being so fascinating, this one about the "i love zuko more than i fear you" line vs what atla's show canon actually demonstrates is something i think is vital to understanding what makes them so insane. and i do think it's unique, if only because of what the narrative wants to tell you vs what it actually shows you.
also, one of the most important things which i touched a little on earlier is just... the politics of atla as a setting for their relationship. that makes it 10x more compelling that azula is this tragic figure who is on the completely wrong side of history, a child soldier who fights for imperialism and racism and xenophobia because she has been indoctrinated and abused and made into a weapon, and mai is someone who fought alongside with her until it inconvenienced her to do so, then switched sides in the name of love without ever actually analyzing or critiquing her own beliefs about what her country was doing. mai chooses the good and moral side by choosing zuko (who also doesn't actually reflect internally and... gets to kind of just keep doing a friendlier imperialism when we look at the comics and lok, but that's another topic), but does she actually want that? does she actually believe in that? has she actually let azula go? the comics can try to whitewash her morality more by pretending she cares abt tom-tom and she's totally reformed, but the show doesn't actually support that, and with no material in-between to show us mai's redemption beyond her betraying azula, not because she cares abt what's good and right but because she cares abt zuko, we as an audience have no real reason to believe that.
so yeah, maizula is endlessly fascinating to me, and i wish a ship would be more interesting than them
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Does Brenner really asks Henry "what changed your mind? Is there someone else"? Are you serious? Is that actual dialogue?? I'm just shocked, how is no one talking about how weird Brenner is with Henry? does it just flies over most peoples heads?? What the hell
That is straight out of the plays I saw. Both of them. Verbatim.
Henry decides to leave HNL because Patty asked him to come back to do the school play. He tells Brenner he wants to leave, and the scene more or less goes like this:
"I'm leaving." "I'm sorry to hear that. Can I ask why?" "I've decided I don't want to do this (read: make contact with the Shadow) anymore." "What changed your mind? Is there someone else?" "...No." "What, you think you can be normal? Go to prom with some stupid girl?" (Taking pages out of byler's playbook, I see)
And if I recall correctly, that's when Henry starts trying the theater doors to get out. Brenner goes on to tell Henry that he's all Henry will every have, etc. Brenner also, at one point, refers to Henry as "my boy", to which Henry whirls around and storms back towards the stage while growl-yelling "I'M NOT YOUR BOY". (And god it's so fucking good in person.)
Brenner very much treats Henry like a misbehaving/unfaithful wife. It had me gasping even the second time I saw the show and knew it was coming. I expected their dynamic to be clear, but I didn't expect it to be this blatant.
(Right down to love triangle blocking and shared color palettes! Slay. I hate it.)
More "fun" freak facts: Brenner kisses Henry on the head twice during his first stay in the lab:
When he's trying to trauma-bond Henry to himself by forcing him to lose control and kill a rat, only to present himself as a sole possible source of comfort for Henry. After Brenner cups Henry's face in his hands to take readings of his pupil sizes (1.9 and 5.9 respective to left and right eyes...1959...), Henry turns to sob into Brenner's shoulder about it, and Brenner hugs him/kisses his hair and tells him that what he did was "very good". (All of this while Henry's displaying, and I quote, "traumatic mydriasis", which is consistent with strokes and major head injuries. No medical treatment for Henry, just kisses and petting from Brenner.)
When Henry's having his grand mal seizure after displaying images of Dimension X. Brenner doesn't give him proper seizure care, he just cradles him, pets him, and kisses the top of his head. While Henry's half-aware post-seizure, Brenner asks him if he'd like to make contact with the Shadow. Henry agrees, but then as soon as he's slightly more aware he looks to a doctor behind him and literally asks for help. He looks back and says "Help..." Brenner also massages Henry's shoulders while he's ball-gagged in the '70s, and tells him he's been "such a good boy these past few years", which means he's fit to meet the children, which are referred to both as his and Brenner's children, but also as his siblings.
This means he kisses/caresses Henry more than Patty does. Period. Point blank.
Brenner also has some choice lines about Henry and killing. Henry's being forced into killing this whole time, but Brenner turns it around on him and says, verbatim, "You liked it more than you thought you would". It's 10000% giving "You actually wanted it/You were asking for it" irt being, uh, forced into doing something that you didn't want to do. (Especially irt the Shadow and all of its rape coding...Yikes!)
Brenner also massages Henry's shoulders while Henry's ball-gagged and belted to a chair in the '70s, all while telling Henry he's "been such a good boy these past years", which means Brenner has deemed him fit to meet the children...the children which are referred to both as Henry/Brenner's children, but also as Henry's siblings.
Yeah. They're considered Brenner and Henry's children ("You're as much a father to these children as I am"), but they're also Henry's "brothers and sisters". You do the math on that one.
Lots of freak vibes all around.
#it's genuinely so uncomfortable to watch#equally as uncomfortable as the Virginia stuff#my ass was shocked stiff about it. like get Away from him. what the fuck dude.#tw rape#tw csa#just in case#st: tfs#asks#tfs spoilers
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Most alysmond writers (like you) are helaena haters, you hates the thought of helaemond and barely ever even mention helaena in your fanfics.
Wrong!
i do not hate helaena. i never have. i actually love her. i don't follow, support or know any alysmond writer that does. i also do not support people infantilising her character or trashing her to prop up alysmond. there is NO REASON to ever hate her or do that.
helaena is a dreamer. she's neurodivergent. her dragon's name is dreamfyre. she's alicent's only daughter. she's her mother's longing and tragedy staring back at her. she's her father's dreamer, his long-awaited prodigy, staring back at him, only to be ignored. she is a mother. she is a queen, but she's cassandra! i love helaena immensely! i love phia saban! she was fantastic in ltk and i know that when b&c comes around she WILL be showing us how it's done
2. Right!
i am not a fan of helaemond.
it seems to me that most people that love this ship don't even love helaena. i'm speaking on the way i've seen (not all, but some) people reframe her grief and trauma of the murder of her child, to instead, be all about her relationship with aemond. or they make her tragic suicide be about aemond. they want her children to be aemond's instead. they want her to be the one at god's eye to witness aemond's death. they want to change the sibling's dynamic to mimic aegon/naerys/aemon love triangle.
if you think about it beyond any fanfic trope, it does not serve any character or the dance. i fail to see how it improves aemond's arc, helaeana's or even aegon's.
and if you want to ship them, that's totally fine. i'm not trying to change your mind. and nobody needs to be out here trying to change mine. i am not wasting my time hating any specific person or writer whereas there is some helaemond telling me to off myself every other week in my inbox any time i mention alys rivers.
i haven't gotten a chance to write about helaena seeing as my fics start with aemond in harrenhal up to god's eye. i'm sorry! but you can literally say the same about every single other character that's not in my fic. it doesn't mean i hate them! i love love love a lot of them, helaena targaryen included
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thoughts on that Wednesday Addams show
-the writing is incredibly juvenile in a way only an adult man who is not actually nor ever has been an "outcast" could accomplish
-that being said all the actors were really amazing! Especially Jenna Ortega!!!
-One thing I liked but felt was more by accident than by design was the way that this school of "outcasts" were like, really normal?? Like theyre just teenagers who happen to not be human. Which makes the fact that Wednesday is a human who's Not Normal kind of compelling. Wish this was an intentional idea though, it could've been played with a whole lot more.... also i just kinda wish they'd picked a word other than "outcasts" to call them. like oh my god i could absolutely see some line during the climax where theres all this petty teen drama where someones like "i might not be human, but at least im not a Monster like you Wednesday" woulda been AWESOME
-Wednesday's love triangle was lame and if she had to get with a guy I'd've preferred Eugene. I love his sibling relationship with wednesday sooo much. One of my favorite dynamics. However if she HAD to get with a guy. Id pick him. He reminds me of Joel from Addams Family Values.
-the fact that two guys fell wildly in love with Wednesday without her doing absolutely anything and also very clearly not returning the sentiment whatsoever and instead just using them whenever she needs them was really funny and on brand, wished the show had been self aware about it
-I really wish the other female characters played bigger roles? Like Enid was Great and I loved the glimpses of her friendship with Wednesday and Thing and their HUG omg,,, I wish the romance plots had been axed in favor of giving Wednesday's friendships more time to shine.
-I also wish Enid and Wednesday had danced together at the Rave'N. Enid goes and dances with all her friends but she never goes over to have fun with Wednesday :( it just felt wrong like, narratively, we saw how excited Enid was about Wednesday going to the dance and then the camera seems to cut to show Enid get excited from watching Wednesday dance and then they dont even Talk?? I hated that.
-also, Bianca. I really loved the way she was basically friends with Wednesday by the end of the show. Wish the show had done a better job at the Enemies to Friendly Rivals to Friends dynamic. Bianca in general is a REALLY cool character that I want more time with.
-Both Enid and Bianca would've made better love interests than the guys imo
-I did like the mysteries, though I'm not sure how well it actually works with the Addams. Because they wound up adding this plot line, no spoilers, about Gomez being accused of murder and Morticia gets super touchy about it. But like?? theyre the ADDAMS why would they be behaving like this about a death???? Makes no sense to me. Needed to be reworked, cuz there definitely are Ways to have made it work imo.
-I really loved all of the costuming for Wednesday though the color correction done on the uniforms makes me kinda sad. i think it would've been fun if the school had been more vibrant and full of life to better contrast who Wednesday is and how she stands out.
-Wednesday's relationship with Morticia is really weird, but in general I get the feeling that certain people involved didn't actually know what Morticia's character was like... at all? And a lot of the problems with the family dynamics stems from this mischaracterization of Morticia in particular. I know some people didn't like Wednesday going through a rebellious phase, but I actually think that fit her character just fine, it's how her parents react to this rebellion that feels out of character to me.
-the fact that they had a romance arc about a werewolf who struggled to be a werewolf and an awkward gorgon..... Very Monster High 2022 to me ngl
-Wednesday is Autistic and you can't convince me otherwise. Everything from the way all of her social interactions are written to the way she literally diverts eye contact whenever theres a closeup shot while she talks to people. shes just like me fr.
overall i give it a 6 out of 10. I wouldn't go around recommending it to people, it's kinda bad, but I got some enjoyment out of it,, so not fully the worst.
But Also if you haven't seen it I WOULD recommend you go watch the fanmade Adult Wednesday Addams series on youtube. It's a classic!
#sorry long post#i just wanted to get all my thoughts down since I literally just finished watching it#i am in fact an addams family enthusiast#addams family values was a fave of mine as a kid tho i think i like the addams family(1991) better now#i also liked the newer animated addams family movies tho they also suck cuz theyre kinda boring#but in some ways theyre better at capturing the family than this show was LOL#ive also seen a couple episodes of the old stuff but like i stg#old shows and movies are impossible to understand without stubtitles i cant process a word they say
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Romance Tropes Bracket
@purlturtle is doing this really cool thing and they said I could ramble about it too! And how could I resist talking story? Do you know me? Hahaha.
Anyway they made this spreadsheet and screenshot and you can check them out on their post (clicky here).
So in the BLUE CORNER
Bodyguard vs Love Triangle
Workplace vs High School
Second Chances vs. Made A Bet (90s style)
Sibling's Best Friend vs Nanny/Governess
Rocking that RED we have
Grumpy/Sunshine vs Someone Else's SO
Accidental Pregnancy vs Just To Get It Out Of Our Systems
Family Feud (Romeo&Juliet style) vs Holiday Romance
Billionaire vs Soulmates
The sun shines down on YELLOW
Mistaken Identity vs Age Gap
Love Potion/Aphrodisiac vs Only One Bed
Amnesia vs Kissing Lessons
Forced Proximity (road trip etc.) vs Secretly a celeb/royal
Aaaaaand finally working that GREEN
Marriage of Convenience vs Fake Dating
Snowed In vs Friends To Lovers
Bad Boy/Girl vs Sworn Off Love
Supernatural (vampires etc.) vs Enemies To Lovers
Under the cut for my picks and rambles!
Bodyguard vs Love Triangle I don't do Love Triangle, either pick one and then let everyone move on or all be together as a trio. My very first real 'ship' had a sort of love triangle (the lady dated one guy, then the other, then back to the first etc.) but I only shipped her with the first guy (it was Jack Malone and Sam Spade from Without a Trace). So the whole 'love triangle' aspect was lost on me as I just did not care.
Bodyguard though... that has serious potential. So much so I have some vague concepts for an original novel trilogy based around it. Bodyguard is sort of what Eve Baird does on the Librarians (Guardian) but also not. I mean it can depend a little bit. I like the whole protective part to a point, but not if it takes the protectees agency away. I'm not fond of 'damsel', I would rather they kick butt together.
WINNER: Bodyguard
Workplace vs High School This one is super easy - has to be Workplace because High School = kids. I have no interest in teenagers. Teachers maybe but that would be a workplace. Even when I was a kid I didn't write about kids. I skipped the whole YA thing completely.
WINNER: Workplace
Second Chances vs. Made a Bet (90's Style) I had to ask what 'Made a Bet' was because I didn't know. @purlturtle suggested it was like a '10 things I hate about you' thing, where they date on a bet and then catch real feelings. Now catching feels - that's cool, but the whole bet thing? I don't know...
I did write a fic prompt once where they were in a bar and two characters were challenging each other to see who could pull the guy they picked out. I suppose that's ok as a concept. I didn't develop it so it clearly didn't grab me that much though.
Second Chances though - this I like. I mean I suppose there's the whole "if it didn't work out before, why would it work now?" question, as in their relationship failed for a reason. But maybe that's because they needed to work on themselves. Sometimes people are just idiots and make assumptions and don't communicate properly. I'm actually writing a serial at the moment with a second chance romance in it (divorced ex-wives have to work together). So this does grab me.
WINNER: Second Chances
Sibling's Best Friend vs Nanny/Governess Got to be honest neither of these jump out at me as being something I'm really drawn to. Although I am sniggering a little bit as I think Nanny/Governess is a favourite of Janeway's (wasn't that her preferred holonovel?). So I'm tempted to vote for Janeway but ehhh. It has a bit of a power dynamic vibe I don't like.
Sibling's Best Friend is very... cute I guess. I don't really have much to say about it to be honest. I'm going to make it win on default but meh.
WINNER: Sibling's Best Friend
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Mistaken Identity vs Age Gap I have written Age Gap - obviously, as I wrote a hell of a lot of Rumbelle (Rumple and Belle, Once Upon a Time) back in the day. Only... I got to be honest I never really saw it as an age gap thing. It totally was and by a LOT because Rumple was semi-immortal as the dark one. He was a couple of centuries old when they met but... age gap romances usually make me uncomfortable because of the inherent power dynamic. Rumple had so little self-confidence that just wasn't an issue.
Mistaken Identity - "do you let them hate the real you, or love the fake you" - HELL YES! Quote from Sophie Devereaux there and the espionage/heist fan in me is compelled. Also superheroes I guess ala Supercorp. Give me all the stories about masks people wear and just wanting to be loved for who they really are.
WINNER: Mistaken Identity
Love Potion/Aphrodisiac vs Only One Bed *cough* show me a person who wasn't read a few sex pollen fics in their time in fandom, and I'll show you a liar. I jest, I jest but also not really. It's not a bad setup for a PWP so long as consent is clearly established and we know before they are under the influence that they are into one another. I suppose there could be a fair bit of plot in terms of consequences but I have no wish personally to write about consent issues.
Only One Bed though - CLASSIC! I mean it's iconic. It's two people pining like idiots, putting up pillow walls between them, the inevitable cuddling in the night and then awkward aroused awakenings. I wrote this in my Conspiracy Afloat fanfic and I'm sure I'll write it again. It's the classic and you can't go wrong with a classic.
WINNER: Only One Bed
Amnesia vs Kissing Lessons Kissing Lessons? This is a new one on me but not hard to figure out. It feels quite juvenile, like maybe a good match for the teenagers in High School?
Amnesia though - oh yes! I don't know if I first loved this trope when I saw the Harrison Ford movie Regarding Henry, or if I saw the trope elsewhere first, but it's very good. The "I'm sorry who are you?" "I'm your wife" and not remembering, having to fall in love again. The agony of the lost shared memories, of not recalling the life they had together, of making new memories. Hell yeah!
WINNER: Amnesia
Forced Proximity (road trip etc.) vs Secretly a celeb/royal Forced Proximity has it's place as a supplement. Like I talked earlier about the Second Chance divorced exes who had to work together. They are getting that Second Chance because of the forced proximity. As a trope on it's own though? Ehhh.
The Secretly a Celeb/Royal... depends if you can expand that. I have long loved the idea of some super rich person being incognito because 'Rich people wear expensive clothes and drive posh cars and go fancy places' and so seeing Joe or Jane Regular, they think 'oh you look like X' rather than thinking they are actually X. I planned out a Rumbelle fic to this premise that I never wrote, but I swear I will write this someway, someday. It partly goes back to the Mistaken Identity and masks, and do they love the real you. With money, meeting someone and them not knowing you are rich is perhaps one of the few ways to be sure about that. But at what point do you tell the truth? The longer it goes on the more feelings of betrayal there are - very similar trope really. Now obviously royal is a whole thing on it's own but put the 'secretly' in front of it and it becomes something else.
WINNER: Secretly a celeb/royal
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Grumpy/Sunshine vs Someone Else's SO Someone Else's SO sounds like cheating/infidelity and I'm not interested in that. Just pick a side and then be honest about it.
I think Grumpy/Sunshine... I'm trying to think of an example. I suppose perhaps I tend to interpret it more as somebody who is reserved vs. someone who is social. Or possibly someone who is cynical/snarky/sarcastic vs. someone who is optimistic/positive/kind. I have definitely written this and will definitely write more of it. It definitely has it's place but equality works too.
WINNER: Grumpy/Sunshine
Accidental Pregnancy vs Just To Get It Out Of Our Systems Honestly not a fan of either, but definitely not a fan of oops pregnancy. It's just not a conflict I am interested in. It doesn't compel me. To be honest neither does the 'Get it out of our systems' because... well it seems odd. Like if you like one another then why is it a one and done? This wins by default but meh.
WINNER: Just To Get It Out Of Our Systems
Family Feud (Romeo & Juliet style) vs Holiday Romance A feud does have potential, the whole 'forbidden love' aspect. I have written this. I have a daughter of politically powerful parents falling in love with a rebel in my Steampunk AU. That's not a family feud, more of a civil class war thing.
Holiday Romance is pretty cool. The whole 'we really click but there is a time limit on it' thing. I did write this once (a Rushbelle fic). As a standard trope it's not something that interests me that much. Now a romance developing during the holidays as like a mutually pining idiots friends to lovers type thing - that's more what I like. I planned and never wrote 2 Bering and Wells christmas fics. First was a fake dating AU where Myka claims Helena is her girlfriend to shut up her sister only to have to invite Helena for the holidays (I know, it's cliche but fun). The other was canon-divergent off season 3 I guess where Helena rejoined the Warehouse and Myka invited her as a 'friend' for Christmas so she wasn't alone at the B&B. Only there was a mix-up and they went to Myka's parents, who weren't home (at the sisters) and they get snowed in, power cuts (huddling together for warmth), only one bed - basically every trope you can think of and hey - Forced Proximity lol - and it gets them to admit feelings. The holidays can add an intensity but neither of these two were technically holiday romance.
WINNER: Holiday Romance
Billionaire vs Soulmates I wrote Soulmates!! It was a Sanctuary fic (Time Will Tell) and it started off as a thought experiment/self-challenge. I don't like the idea of fate and then everything being happy because you have found your 'one' (or in my OT3 case, two). So I really pushed hard on the 'love is a choice' angle, and that lots of soulmate relationships failed because relationships take work. The 'this could be your future but only if you choose it, only if you work for it'. Made me love it. It was fun to explore how having this ticking timer could affect people's personalities, the development of the relationship (having the certainty could be paradoxically paralysing). What that did to society and prejudices etc.
Now of course Billionaire does sort of go back to what I described earlier with the 'Secret Celeb' trope. Having money is kind of a fantasy and it makes for a fun world. You can have them sail around in a yacht, go skiing and sit by the fire in a wood lodge, private jet travel etc. but I don't know. Apart from the 'do you like me or just my money' conflict, having a ton of money is just like so what? It removes worry about paying bills and buying food and that's awesome, takes those stresses off a relationship, but if you don't have to be a billionaire for that, and that as the sole trope... where's the story?
WINNER: Soulmates
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Marriage of Convenience vs Fake Dating OH NO YOU DIDN'T?!?! I have to choose? I suppose they are very similar. It's the pretend relationship and then the 'oh no I caught feelings' and that like Only One Bed is a complete classic.
I'm going to go with Fake Dating purely because it's likely to come up more. Although I can think of so many ideas for Marriage of Convenience. They are both so good! They are both winners in my heart.
WINNER: Fake Dating
Snowed In vs Friends To Lovers This is like a situation vs. a dynamic. Snowed In is quite specific. I talked about it earlier with the Bering and Wells christmas fic. It's not something that will happen in a lot of stories because some places don't have snow, or it's not set in winter etc.
Whereas Friends to Lovers is basically everything I write ever. How can people be lovers if they aren't friends? If they don't like one another. Friendship is the foundation. Even when I wrote Enemies to Lovers (Timeless, Flynn and Lucy) there was a loooooong stop off at friends in the middle.
WINNER: Friends to Lovers
Bad Boy/Girl vs Sworn Off Love Ok this feels like an unpopular opinion but if they are actually a 'bad boy/girl' then no, just no. If they are misunderstood, they have a heart of gold etc. then they aren't really 'bad' and so it's just aesthetics or something? Like pretending to be a rebel but not really. I don't get it to be honest.
Sworn Off Love though... so much yes. Think about Helena who didn't want to love, who intended their heart to be frozen, to no longer really beat because it belonged to Christina, their daughter who was gone. But Helena hadn't reckoned on Myka who found a way in anyway, and it was agony, but that love saved the world.
WINNER: Sworn Off Love
Supernatural (vampires etc.) vs Enemies To Lovers Ok my previous mention of Flynn and Lucy aside I really don't go in for Enemies to Lovers. If people are enemies they hate each other - hate is the opposite of love. Yes it's an extreme emotion but I don't get how it works except with a very long stop-off in friends first, and then that feels like not really Enemies to Lovers anymore.
Supernatural though can be fun. I have a long fascination with immortality. One partner living forever and the other one getting older, dying. I hate it, I hate it so much because it hurts, and yet it is compelling. I want to fix it. That's probably it. Carol and Maria from Captain Marvel. Breaks my heart :(
Doesn't just have to be immortality either. I know Harry Potter shouldn't be mentioned today but the Remus and Tonks relationship had potential as a dynamic. Remus as a werewolf saw himself as less than, as not being human - not being WORTHY. It's that kind of self-hate which makes me bond with characters (Rumple had the same thing going on). But the whole I love you, all parts of you, even the monster parts - that acceptance of the flaws. That's good stuff.
WINNER: Supernatural
I will post up the next bracket when @purlturtle does theirs! Though we did pick some different things so their bracket will look different from mine. It's going to be interesting!! :)
#romance tropes bracket#fic tropes#this was seriously fun#also I stayed up an hour past bedtime writing all of this out I was COMPELLED#put a quarter in and I will talk story for hours sorry not sorry
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Low-key Jacemond would go hard bc like...Aemond would 100% do freaky, unspeakable things to Jace considering their shared history. Their relationship would be not healthy at all, but we're throwing in Tired Cousin with Parental/Abandonment Issues, Eldest Bastard (Daughter), and Mommy Issues Pirate who'd do anything for his family.
You can't tell me the dynamic wouldn't go hard either bc like...Aemond can just.....be a more hands on Valyrian Teacher alongside Reader for Jayce. Jayce has the heart of the King. Reader has the mind for politics even if she hates it. Aemond has big, scary dragon rawr.
*squints* there's no world in which the Reader would not find the juxtaposition of Jayce's soft lips and savagery of Aemond's scar not beautiful. IT'D SOMEWHAT FIT NARRATIVELY. Like, my girl fears abandonment and gets entangled with two men who spell devotion in different ways. Aemond protects his family by accepting that to protect someone and to truly love someone, he must protect and cherish those dear to his loved one as well. And uh, Jayce....gets his Eldest Daughter foot rub. Just kidding, Jayce overcomes the circumstances of his birth by having hot people politically dispose his opponents and burn them.
Manifestind Jayce to provoke the Daddy Issues out of Aemond so we can add some spice to this too. I fear the day the three of them get busy together bc you know that Dragonpit gonna get loud 💀
"eldest bastard (daughter)" KILLED ME DEAD ANON AHJHLSJKEFJSJ yeah jace does kinda have that energy huh 😭😭😭 has to parent his younger bastard siblings and then has to parent his mom. literally there is no father figure for him to rely on either (laenor was absent, harwin is dead, and daemon is daemon) ajhhdldjskfjdkd he is truly eldest daughter representation
IM NOT RLLY SURE HOW THE JACEM*ND SHIP WORKS FOR MOST PEOPLE, but in the specific context of this fic yes it would be insanely bizarre and if they ever have a single normal moment it's because their cousin is working overtime to manage the relationship 😭 U ARE SO RIGHT THO they would be an absolute power throuple... all the answers to jace's problems as heir to the throne was just marrying a guy who gives him scary dog privilege & his gaslight gatekeep girlboss cousin. ("eldest daughter foot rub" LMAOOOO u are so funny oh my god)
"juxtaposition of jace's soft lips and savagery of aemond's scar" stop this nonsense anon u are making me so h-word. I will never be able to write a sentence as erotic as that one. you are very right though lol I feel like this reader is SO starved for love and in a way this is the best endgame for her too. aemond is so batshit fucking crazy that she will never feel lonely. jace is so sensitive and kind and devoted that she will never feel unloved. the sad thing about this love triangle is that if she ends up with just one guy, there will be a kind of emptiness that only the other one would know how to fix. a throuple would circumvent that immediately 😭
PLEASE ANON do not make me think about a jacem*nd/reader nsfw scene I would literally die of horny. jace bringing out aemond's daddy issues in the middle of a threesome would make for some truly insane sex...... aemond is getting his shit wrecked by you both tbh aaghgldjdkwfjsjj
#SADGE because i want JACE to be the one getting his shit wrecked but alas. it is aemond who leans sub here 😞#egg.asks
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