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final totk verdict.
#totk critical#loz#zelda#.txt#tldr: why didnt we get to experience the MAIN STORYLINE#why didnt zelda and link get to grow closer and stronger TOGETHER#why did we do laundry for 3 months while zelda fought a war#and she said it was cool and we just had to take her word for it#also i#i dont care abt. s/onia or r/auru or. any of the champions#their designs are cool esp sonia but like..#theyre. empty. and flawless. and they rob screentime from the development of link. of zelink. of the champions we DO know and care about.#i guarantee i would have enjoyed son/rau more if i was able to INTERACT WITH THEM!!!! :[#im bitter sorry#oh yeah and why arent link and zelda like. in love anymore.#in botw they were so insane crazy in love with eachother it ruled the fate of hyrule#and now theyre like...... coworkers... who went out to get chipotle or somnething together and got split up in timeline traffic#and theyre just like oh well#ill see ya when i see ya ig#idk. its so... weird. its so relaxed. its so distant.#the one serious thing is offscreen#link isnt just a side character hes a background character#while the main story takes place offscreen#://
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not to actually be delusional but why does revali have gold shit braided into his hair and why does it lowkey match link's hair color.
#loz#botw#loz botw#legend of zelda#revalink#i dont care that it’s supposed to match his eyebrows or whatever#HIM AND LINK WERE MEANT TO BE#*wendy williams voice* now come on now....#thinking about the hc where rito braid each other's feathers into their hair as a symbol of courtship/marriage#hylia herself had revali born with gold streaks to indicate ties to her champion#revali but he’s ebony dark’ness dementia raven way or something#hi my name is revali most skilled archer and champion of the rito#and i have long dark navy hair (that’s how i got my name)#with gold streaks and gold tips that reaches my mid-back#and bright green eyes like emeralds and a lot of people say i look like farore#(AN: if u don’t who she is get da hell out of here!)#“revali” is rito language for “navy blue” now i will not be taking criticism at this time. thank you.#amihan's revalinkverse
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I'm ngl the longer it's been since I've played TOTK the less I like it I think
#do not get me wrong i think the game is fun to play and that was like 80% of where my concern lied#but godddd the story sucks so bad. i love the draconification bit with zelda but the rest. augh#why do we need Another ancient civilization literally appearing out of nowhere and infesting hyrule with its ruins#they got rid of all the sheikah stuff with literally no explanation to shove the zonai into the region#but why are we even focusing on the ancient civilizations again????#it would have made so much more sense to focus on hyrule in the present day. work with the npcs to make hyrule greater than it was#move on from the calamity and turn hyrule into a strong bustling country#the zonai were hinted at in botw but they feel so shoehorned in because they have nothing to do with anything in botw#i dont care about the secret stones we had champion abilities#i dont care about the sages the champion descendants had the champions to look up to#i dont care about rauru and sonia because sonia got fridged hard and rauru's character is flat. pleasant but flat#and i dont care at all about ganondorf because the most interesting thing he ever does is do the gmod face#its so frustrating watching the same 'woah secret stones! sages??' cutscene 4 times with Da New Sages and its so frustrating#watching the other characters speculate what happened to zelda and chase down her ghostly paper trail#when like. i can see her in the sky. she's over there guys#the memories were one of my favorite things in botw bc they all subtly stitched together the story of what happened#in totk they are incredibly plot dense and very linear and very confusing to watch out of order. which is easy to do#the one where sonia gets murked is like. the third memory i found#id at least be more interested in all the zonai stuff if link was the one to get teleported to the past while zelda has to try and save him#giving zelda agency. craziest thing they could have done#ok sorry this is a Lot of salt but just. raaaaagh#maybe my expectations were astronomical but outside of gameplay totk brings nothing good to the table imo#i'd significantly rather they made botw2 more gameplay focused where you can do something like make meaningful changes to the map#tarrey town style#than try to shove a whole different zelda game's plot into a carefully constructed preexisting world#i think the zonai story would be cool in its own game but not botw
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Regarding Demise: He is an interesting concept, as is the whole eternal cycle, but for that to actually become something worthwhile the games/stories would have to actually DO something with it. So far they are introduced in Skyward Sword and thats it! No other game even references them. And, yes, that cheapens EVERY other game because there is this implication that its all out of the control of the actual characters in the story because of this one asshole that we only ever saw once! Why not have Ganondorf realize that he is possessed/manipulated by this weird old Demon God? How would he react, would he embrace it, would he rebel, would he be broken by the realization that none of his actions were ever *his*? I dont even care which of these options they pick, as long as they pick any of it and do just ANYTHING with the concept.
Or maybe Link or Zelda figures out the Cycle and starts looking into breaking it because endlessly repeating Demon Attacks kinda suck and you dont want that for your descendants.
Or have a game focus on them remembering bits from past lives and having to piece it all together or, again, just ANYTHING!
The closest they ever came to was with BOTW Zelda praying to Hylia, aka HERSELF, to unlock her powers, which is some brutal narrative irony, but not much more.
And regarding the whole Zelda is Hylia thing, I've seen some headcanons about how Skyward Sword Zelda is terrified of herself after learning that, because she now has to assume that everything she did was planned by a version of her that she no longer is. Is Link her friend or is he the useful pawn that Hylia needs to turn into the Hero? Does she even deserve his affection when she probably manipulated him into becoming her champion and fighting, possibly dying for her all her life?
Thats juicy, thats something you can do something with but Nintendo really does like to plan those stories game per game without any care for the larger story.
Which I guess is the Irony of it all. They tried the whole larger connected story/universe thing once: With Skyward Sword. After all that was also the time we got the first Hyrule Historia & "official timeline" as well as "How it all began" in the game itself.
It felt like the start of a new era for Zelda games and stories and then it just... wasn't.
And while I get that they want to focus on gameplay over story, I will never stop mourning the stories we could get/have gotten, if they put a bit more thought into things.
I actually feel like its harder to make the 'cycle' into an interesting plot point when its a .. divine thing that happens, and not perpetuated by the people (though not impossible, given how the series is build up it would need alot of work to not make it worse still..)-
i actually cannot stand the idea that ganondorf is possessed or manipulated, made eviler by demise somehow (demise is dead, leave him beeeeee hes not some evil master mind behind anything aaaaah) bc it STILL takes away ganondorfs agency and character and gives right into the whole hes basically born evil and just pushes the fault tm onto someone else it in turn legitimizes that the kingdom of hyrule and its high rule (heehoo) is right and if only gan wasnt manipulated hed be good tm, aka allied with the goodest guys, hed gladly accept their invitation and join their holy empire of goodness tm if wasnt for da demon
(and i love to say, who decides what is good tm and evil tm? bc hyrules monarchs making every other tribe their subordinate and persecuting shiekah for example isnt what id call good but its fine bc the good holy guys did it in the name of "peace" -what is their idea of peace? everyones under their rule and must worship their god? uh oh- and resistance to it is gonna get you labelled as evil!! (unless you join their holy kingdom and become their vassal of GOOD) what good and evil boils down to in zelda is .. being allied/ruled by the kingdom of hyrule and being opposed to them, even if its only not wanting to be subjugated by them)
i can see the appeal to some degree, but i dont like the idea of ganondorf even being able to be manipulated or possessed, what makes his character, before it got flattened into well he just be demon in the eyes of the average fandom, interesting is his unbreakable will, that drive to keep on living and resisting those that want him dead, its poetic and sad, to the point that (until totk ...) it was really just ONE ganondorf that refused to die and came back over and over (also something i found a compelling thought for botw, that after all this time theres nothing left BUT his will to resist, its a tragic idea that rly spoke to me)
my personal idea of the cycle is that its only a cycle bc they, the kingdom of hyrule and their belief system, keep it going, its not a divine thing that needs to be broken (though the divine surely messes with it, just for the bit i guess) but something that keeps repeating bc hyrule is so soaked into the idea that their princess once was a god and hers is the right to rule it all in light- so anyone who doesnt agree must be of the demons from the darkness seeking to destroy the world, and what means the 'world' could just mean the kingdom of hyrule- in botw even with the calamity people went on and lived, same in windwaker, they dont need the holy kingdom to live- (who is to say the 'monsters' are bad for the land, to me they mostly looked like well adapted territorial beasts, and the bokblins etc clearly arent mindless monsters either, why do they need to be eradicated? they attack you? ok dont go into their territory, or defend yourself, you dont need to exterminate something just bc it could be a threat at some point)
(i do agree that conflict with zelda being interesting but uuuh .. well they never did anythign with that huh)
in the end, demise was just a throw away villain, and if i may get my tin foil hat back here, i feel like the whole creation myth skyward sword does was really just a way for them to get out of the predicament of having to consider a villain to be treated like a person to save themselves from having to think about what they imply and can just go, well this is the evil demons, this is the good gods- ironically enough the attempt to get out of having to consider complicated writing it ends up reversing straight back into the WORST of kinds of implications .. that arent even subtext anymore, if totk is anythign to go by, the most 'simple' or 'easy' narrative to go for might not be actually simple, just a so often retold one that it appears simple if not made aware of its dark maw, the status quo repeated ad nauseam
(and if i may, the whole gameplay over story thing is bs in my eyes, that sounds like the typical attempt of dismissing any critique, just like the stupid, and frankly, offensive "its just for kids" argument, story and gameplay are inherently intertwined, the story influences the gameplay, the gameplay influences the story, especially in a series like zelda that is a futile thing to go for and a reason why the stories themselves lack depth, how are you gonna have an epic adventure that drives you to get through any amount of puzzles and battles if there is no story to motivate you, at this point it feels like the series has set itself up for catastrophic failure bc i imagine, people might just keep buying and playing the games bc its attached to the series, bc they hope to see characters they loved return, new ones that will grab their attention, perhaps be taken away by a world that meant alot to them once before, hope that there will be something exciting-
i am not saying the series has no value or doesnt do anything well (hello who am i) but how many times can you repeat 'this guy good he fight evil guy he get the pretty princess as reward' without any interesting twists or narrative, even the most beloved characters can only keep it passable for so long, even the best gameplay loses its potential if its surrounded by cardboard characters and a story so "simple" as offensive it fits into a single page, i often wonder how a game would be seen if it wasnt titled -the legend of zelda- ..
it hurts especially when looking at its long history, how much estblished thigns it could exploit and expand, the potential the series has is still immense, it hurts to see it be wasted over and over :(
#ganondoodles answers#ganondoodles talks#zelda#i dont need it to be mind breaking#i just want it to be interesting#botw was interesting to me!! so much so!! god i miss loving that game- totk just gives everything a bitter taste..#i dont find echoes of wisdoms lore that interesting as some seem to do#the main thing being you play.. as zelda (and need to transform into link via mystic energy to be able to actually fight hahaaa)#and i find that cool but also a little .. sad? like this series is so set in its path that even playing as the other good guy is a big hook#i have nothing much against the game (other than how zelda is handled- of course she da priestess not a hero .. the FUCKING UI ARGH)#idk totk kinda killed how invested i was into the lore#im just kinda numb to it by now ... like whatever#i still care mind you- but it would take alot ot get me excited again#also this long ass response isnt meant agressively or something#i just have .. opinions tm#also .. the whole breakign the cycle is the entire idea of my totk rewrite- with zelda having to realize she is part of what perpetuates it#and everything shes been told all her life was a lie- shaking her entire worldview to the core#anyway#im gonna guess this wasnt the point of the ask but uh ... words go brrrrr
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revalink!!
https://www.tumblr.com/dizzying-faust/614856861677699072?source=share
(Answering that Other ask gave me the motivation to answer this one as well)
Thank you for the ask, it was a TON of fun, even If it took me forever to answer. Also, a little warning, this Post is LONG as HECK and Kind of rambly
Revalink- Ship It!!!!!!!
What made you ship it?
I played Breath of the Wild in 2021 during the lockdown because I was finally bored enough I guess? (Funfact, I actually hated Botw before it came Out, because I was a little hater and didn't Like that the Zelda formula was changing lolol). The important takeaway Here is, that I already knew the Story and all memory cutscenes before I played it. The Other cutscenes Not included were new to me, however.
Revali was the first Champion I ended up saving (revali's gale is the best ability and I needed it for the towers). I was faintly aware of the existence of Revalink but never seriously considered it. Now while I was freeing the Terminals and got Bits and pieces of dialogue I thought that it was funny to interpret Revali having a crush on Link and that being the reason he's so mean to him. And it is funny tbh, but at that Point it was Just a joke to me.
And then came the fight against Wind blight, and oh. The dialogue right before?? The dialogue after?????? I should mention at this point that I played the Game in German, so many translations were different. In english, right before the fight, Revali said something along the lines of "Good luck (...) I only lost because I was winging it" and german He tells Link to be careful ("be careful, you hear me?")(also the delivery of that line, bro, voice actor was Not messing around) This in on itself didn't make me ship it, but it Set the tone.
The scene after the fight when Revali is saved and gives Link His gale... I almost dont know how to Put it into words, but the tension in this Scene? When He Looks at Link as If waiting for him to say something? When He Turns around "nevermind Just Go"??? It feels Like there are so many Things left unsaid, Like There's so much more to be said, even though their relationship is technically wrapped up at this point? It honestly caught me so off guard. Not one Scene with any of the Other Champions has this Kind of tension, Not even mipha (who is a Love interest for Link).
Well, then I went on Tumblr and my fate was basically sealed, lol.
TL:DR: because I played the game
What are your favorite things about the ship?
I Love the Potential of this ship! Theres so many ways how this can be insanely funny (this is one sided rivals to lovers, does it get any better than that?), it can be so incredible sad (death!! Amnesia!! Letting Go!!! One sided!!! Unspoken!!! Not meant to be!!! Lots of Other Things Im forgetting!!)
Its INSANE how Well they Work together, especially since I doubt it was done on purpose.
I have so many more thoughts, but I can't Put them together properly, so I'll leave it at that. The next point is Sort of a continuation of what I Love about this ship anyway
Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
The fact that this ship isnt Canon and will/can never be canon is actually one of the best things about it, in my opinion (dont know If its an unpopular opinion)
It fits right in, in a way.
I Love it when two characters are written in a way, were they Sort of complete each other. Where they Share parallels, goals, have opposing personalities that still Match somehow, where they are each Others Drive and Motivation. Where their Stories Just fit so Well together that you know that they were clearly written for each other.
Link and Revali were Not meant to work Well together, Not Like this at least. Of course Revali was written as a foil to Link (correct me If I'm wrong please, I think this was the Case), so them being opposing is intentional.
If you think about these characters for a certain amount of time, Just slightly more in depth, you will find yourself with the revelation that they are so very similar, they would likely be able to be friends If they Just worked through their differences. But they never do! They never have the time/ are too caught Up in pushing others away in their own ways. They could have been something, but never ended Up being.
This ties so nicely into the theme of destiny and fate (kinda.... I feel Like despite setting this Up as a theme, botw doesnt really Go anywhere with it, so it mostly works nicely in fanfiction and such... Although, If you think I missed something about botw, pls let me know. I'm Not an expert on themes)
Theyre doomed by the narrative and the narrative Said they could never be, so they never were (Its kinda fun how that element is true in the real world as Well as in game)(is what I'm getting at)(theyre Not written as Love interests but MAN do they Work as a romantic couple)(cruel, poetic, amazing, ughhh?!???)(them working Well together as a couple was a coincidence, which again, opposes the destiny thing)(this ship has me in a chokehold, can you Tell)
I'm Just saying a bunch of words, I Hope they make sense... I might have also went off the rails a bit... Eh
If you're still here, thank you so much for reading!!
I do actually really Love answering my Inbox and playing ask games, pls dont let my imcompetence to answer them in a timely manner discourage you from sending one😅😅
#revalink#!!#one of the reasons I dont do long text post: I cannot shut up#and my thoughts are all over the place#I wish I could express myself better :-/#hopefully this was still somewhat coherent#i Love revalink so much#ugh#ask game#thx cryiling for always sending me asks
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Tbh i dont think I'd care as much about ToTKs lackluster story if there wasnt so much framework for it to be GOOD.
Hell. Lets look at the setup here. Link and Zelda are rebuilding the remnants of their old kingdom, they find the source of where the Calamity came from, and it has human form...
And NONE of this is expanded on.
Even within the game itself- it sets us up in Zonai ruins underground. Statues upon statues from this ancient race... and we only ever see two. The past timeline takes place after most of them are dead.
We get to explore ruins, visit structures in the sky with a lot of local legends around them... but we learn nothing more than that.
The Wind temple, the stormwind arc- we are meant to assume it saved the Rito somehow... and yet the "how" is never expanded upon.
Gordonia, an ancient city of the gorons, lives in their legends... but this too never gets a purpose.
The Zoras glorified water treatment plant even- did that even have any significance to the Zora? Its not even a well known legend, they just found writing about it in a cave.
And the sheer amount of stuff that could have been done with the Gerudo- not only with the lightning temple, but the temple the yiga are squatting in... they're given no significance to their people whatsoever.
We could have had cutscenes about how each of these locations were affected by the imprisoning war, at the very LEAST. Just a crumb of lore about why all these important places WERE important.
Sure, most Zelda temples don't really have a lot of lore surrounding them specifically in the series, but most of them dont have the same buildups to them that each TOTK temple did. BOTW at least gave us significant cutscenes showing us how in tune the champions were with their divine beasts, and their relationships with Link and Zelda.
Even in older games, several temples with longer buildups give us some interesting backgrounds or a purpose. (Think the Sky temple in TP, the tower of the gods in WW, and even the Skyloft temple in SkSw even if i hated that one)
To have only 5 temples, with long buildups, and have no real payoff aside from progressing the game and getting those ghost companions... it's a letdown.
And all of this doesnt EVEN get into the shallow portrayal of Rauru and Ganondorf
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Sometimes i think about how so much of RWBY was probably inspired by Zelda. (Maybe not but I'm a hardcore zelda fan, and i will associate everything i like) and i love it bc it's not...too obvious? Like, you can clearly point out the similarities and even after noticing them you don't see RWBYs story as a copy or anything (bc this is probably a strech BUT I DONT CARE)
The two brothers /the spirits of the relics -> the three goddeses
The blacksmith / the brothers -> hylia
The two brothers represent different aspects of life and the world -> so do the brothers, they divide their work
The triforce -> the relics
Gathering all of them has very important and potentially horrible consequences but it also can be used for good -> both the triforce and the relics
The pieces by itself can grant some sort of power or effect on the wielder -> the pieces of the triforce represent the goddeses and grant powers (using the light power, super strength, being able to wield a legendary weapon) / each relic has it's own purpose
An innocent soul drunken by power who is also a victim of an ancient god-like entity who seeks reuniting all the pieces of the triforce/relics -> salem / ganondorf
Someone who ended up being cursed to live again and again and again, as a mortal inmortal being whose purpose is to stop the great evil that is threatening the world -> hylia / zelda and ozma
Hm, and somebody innocent who due to this original curse was thrown into all this mess, starting to aquire memories from years and years and decades and centuries before they were born that belong to someone that is merging with them so that innocent person becomes the next soul in the curse and has to stop this great evil because is their fate? -> zelda (skyward sword) and oscar I'm looking at you two
And you're telling me that there were lies and manipulation involved? -> zelda again and ozpin I'm looking at you both
And who did you involved in all this? A brave warrior with a heart of gold and a simple and peaceful background and life who ALSO HAPPENS to be gifted at fighting who carries something unique, the only thing capable of harming that great evil?? Hmmm... -> ruby, link, I'm looking at you both
And you're telling me that having that thing is not as easy as it seems and you need to unlock it and learn how to unleash it's true potential? -> maybe like the silver eyes? Or maybe the master sword?
And you're telling me that these two souls are bonded by fate to meet and have A LOT of pararells and they complement each other? -> ruby and oscar I'm looking at you
And you're telling me that their story resembles and is a pararell to the original story of lovers? -> ozma/Salem - ruby/Oscar and the first link/hylia -zelda/link
And you're telling me that the soul who merges with this magical ancient being also carries light themed magic? -> zelda? Oscar? Explain
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT EVEN IF THERE'S A MAIN HERO, THEY CANNOT DO IT ALONE AND THEY NEED HELP?
Hmmm like RUBY AND ALL HER TEAMMATES AND LINK AND HIS COMPANIONS?
Oh, and you're also telling me that there are very important and powerful people who carry a fraction of the power of the gods? Like the maidens? Or like maybe the sages? (I'm not including the champions bc botw came out after rwby)
So yeah, there's some similarities. And i LOVE IT
Also i ship zelink and rosegarden and I CAN ASSURE YOU. THEY'RE THE SAME. SAME DYNAMIC, SAME VIBE, THEY'RE SO DEAR TO ME OH MY GOD.
#rwby#rwby rambles#rwby meta#zelda#I'm very sleepy#it's 6am#man they're the same#ruby rose#oscar pine#rwby ruby#salem#rwby salem#ozpin#ozma#rwby ozma#proffesor ozpin#zelda lore#rwby lore#zelink#rosegarden#headcanons
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can i present you with a random scenario. what would happen in an au hypothetical where only one of the champions survives the calamity. idk like what would happen for each champion im curious
ywah you can!!
ok this depends on if you mean like. taking links surviving role or surviving alongside link. in my au the former would be.. a bit more complicated? actually that could make for a really fucked up scenario of which i shant say as . probably spoilers? actually no . in wotb link actually dies early (a recent development meta-textually). so basically if hes already in there and a champion has to be put in their instead theres two routes. one he could never be put in there at all, already gone by the time they find the SoR. or two he Is in there but something just Fails Really Badly. it just.. wouldnt heal him. so its a last ditch effort to put a champion in there.
long text below Be Warned.
so while we’re on the topic of that scenario!!! lets start with it!! 1 mipha. she would send out an ok signal to the other champions, and she’d either check on her people first or try to get vah ruta to the nearest champion to help them. or hell she might check on zelda first. i think the plan without link would be to either say fuck it we ball and impa would take zelda to the castle, Or just go straight to kakariko instead as a safety thing. i think she’d actually check on zelda as she’s seen as the most important, then try to reach the champions. i think she’d have the same problems the champions descendants have getting into the divine beasts honestly, though vah naboris would be easy theres no water close enough. vah medoh is not only too high but has an actual shield. vah rudania walks around too much and causes way too much damage to death mountain. she could fire her shot at one of the divine beasts, but that would kill the champion inside it, wouldnt it? so she just resigns to help zelda and impa. she can take care of guardians well enough honestly. her cause of death would probably be either malice or trying to heal zelda or impa While Being Fought at. shes put in and boom 100 years later. i dont know how scales work but i think they wouldnt regrow in the SoR and she’d be left with scarred skin. either rhoam or a zora she knew would greet her on the great plateau. rhoam… wouldnt exactly be happy about. link not being there. mipha being able to defeat her blight is proof to him that shes capable, but also he really has no other options. who else is going to help zelda? mipha had defeated one of his creations.. so she could defeat him. she kind of has to, master sword or not- she’s the only one left. if a zora she knew was there instead i think itd reflect on her personally more? like her healing, her tendency to look after others instead of herself, how she’s dealing with this. the zora wouldnt force her to help zelda, maybe not even telling her. but yeag. still amnesiac, and things go mostly the same as canon besides some.. hiccups. going into zoras domain would have her literally not be able to leave, let alone go to zelda or any of the divine beasts. dorephan and muzu would gush over her because well. they havent seen her in 100 years!! and shes alive!!! she’s been martyred which would be. uncomfortable to her. because she doesnt know who that statue is, even if it looks like her. sure shes calm and nice, but the statues face.. it looks. serene almost. calm. lifeless, dead. vah rutas been protecting the place, and vah ruta would also say hi!! she’d get a memory of herself here which could include her little self or her pre cal self Hiding Things, like vulnerability. itd make her uncomfortable as well!! AND SIDON. sidon would have mixed feelings, but he would absolutely hang out with her in a more.. chill manner. just like. camping and eating. frog hunting. showing her how to ride a waterfall like she taught him. they get to know each other better like. well like siblings. she might do a pre cal and when she suggests leaving while doing a chill hangout she’d do That Smile. the hiding something smile basically, or ‘im the mature sibling’ smile. and sidon would be like ‘youre making that face’ >:( and shed go (sweating) ‘what’. but yeah. sidon would either go with her and travel with her or establish a mail system no matter the cost. They Will Talk damnit. going into other regions is hard when you cant really handle many temperatures that arent in the water. im ppretty sure zoras domain has chillfin trout in it so i think she’d do better in colder weather rather than hot, which sucks because two divine beasts are in hot weather. she’d probably still need at Least a ruby circlet though because hebra is probably too cold, or just sucks because of the snow. death mountain she’d have to put. so much flame resistance elixrs on. she’d also wear a sapphire circlet all the time there even if its not in the flaming zone. she doesnt like the hot springs </3. yunobo and her would-
-get along i think. she’d probably be slightly annoyed at how scared he is but other than that no complaints. he’d be really nice without being a pushover and i think she’d relate/admire that. she’d eat smotherwing butterflies. daruk would be really happy to see her. getting into gerudo town sucks so so soo badly. sand keeps getting under her scales, its Dry, its Hot (during the day), and theres not like. an elixr for her scales. the only real place sand Isnt on her is the lake in the kara kara bazaar. i think she’d put on flame resistant elixir there just so it protects her scales. or she gets some armour to help her with that. otherwise she’s let into gerudo town. vah naboris would be a nightmare for her. she’d have to have like. a hazmat suit for that one. and the yiga!! she wouldnt like them the moment she hears of them, which has to do with link pre cal but saying too much is spoilers. honestly though. i dont think theyd try to kill her, at least not Nearly as much. after all shes Just Some Zora. no sword, no divine intervention. after getting the thunder helm though theyd go after her probably. but yeah she does Not like them and will actually fight them the first chance she gets. this caused problems for the thunder helm stealth mission. urbosa and revali would be impressed to see her but also worried (revali) and defeated/giving up almost (urbosa). she and paya would get along really well and she’d clean with her Instantly. though paya would tell her that she doesnt have to + she should. be doing other things. she’d buy links house which. weird feelings about it so she doesnt really live in it but its just. There. like a memorial. she’d also be annoyed at purah teasing her about having to get parts but she’d mask it. she’d like indexing fish and birds in her compendium, and the sanke carp Fascinates her. she’d like kass’s music and really just sit and listen to him play. she’d also try to tell him what the shrine solution was once she figures it out. though i dont think he’d tell her the calamity legends. impa does however. she’d find lurelin and would So Badly want to go into the sea. however its too much salt. she’d probably fish there honestly, fishing rod and all. also though seafaring is dangerous for her so. no eventide unless a good boat rather than a dodgy raft. she.. tries to make it into korok forest. but she doesnt know how, and if link ever told her how he did it she cant remember. also its Super haunting for her i think she’d minorly see horrors in the mist so. yeah no forest for her. she’d defeat ganon though, and she’d probably live in zoras domain but take zelda with her. OH ALSO HER MEMORIES…. zeldas photos wouldnt help her too much. only 1 has her in it. so she’d get memories based on her surroundings, like how link gets snippets of the champions. seeing her trident would get a memory, the veiled falls shrine would have a memory, goponga village would have a memory, maybe the east post would have one?, and she’d have a zelda memory somewhere in zoras domain (maybe with those history tablets, or in an area with wildlife). and if link has a grave thatd also have a memory. she’d also get a memory of impa because hell yeah. im tempted to make link a spirit that follows her like the other champions honestly. but yeah post cal sidons been set as the ruler so. she can do what she wants. she’d mostly help zelda though.
in the scenario she lives alongside link, she’d tend to him on the great plateau and generally help out purah and robbie. she’d have to be at the domain most of the time though, and she’d be next in line for the crown rather than sidon. she’d grow older and do her best to help with the side effects of the calamity. she HATES yiga even more here than the last scenario. she also hates guardians, but she can take care of even the stalkers now. she’s there to greet link instead of rhoam, and helps him recuperate. she doesnt have a paraglider at first so for him to get down he’d need to climb down. or she couldve made a river system into the great plateau so if he holds his breath he can dive in and out. he still has to do the shrines zelda let mipha know that he has to. she might also travel with him honestly. she’d also spearhead the guardians on the great plateau when she finds out some are active. things would tense between them as time goes on but thats another story. basically old lady who may want to kill.
if revali survived!! uhh first scenario. he would fly all the way to the other champions first, and would check on zelda last. he’d also try to see how the village is doing before he flys to the champions. he cant get to naboris or ruta because he cant see anything, and rudania is at a Really painful angle, and with death mountain erupting.. its a pipe dream to make it there. he dies also to malice, or maybe to a guardian shot. same deal as mipha, either rhoam or a rito he knows greets him. rhoam has the same feelings (+exasperation because of all the champions, it was revali. and he’s a lot more of an old man to him with like changing the deal and teasing him. they would probably fight if not for the fact they dont hate each other). if it was a rito theyd focus more on flying than anything else. actually. he can get off the great plateau. i mean unless he forgot how to glide/one of his wings couldnt work he could. simply get down there. so for plot lets say he forgot how to fly and glide. once he learns how to again he goes to kakariko, and once he learns of rito village hes goes straight there and almost never leaves it. its His Hometown damnit!!! the nostalgia would get to him. though not knowing anyone would be… weird to him. but he’d still love the village. he and medoh would banter but theyd miss each other. he has to get to vah ruta by walking and hes SO mad about it. he would absolutely fight muzu if muzu hated him like he hated link. maybe muzu would doubt his skills and insist no outside help is needed. mipha would be sad probably. not to see him but just to see her family. but i think her and revali would be friends like pre cal and theyd have fun just with now looming dread. the flame resistant stuff would suck to put on, but he isnt going to drink it so he suffers instead. he would probably like yunobo. he’s able to reassure him better and yunobo is like you mentioned more reasonable in general so. yeah!! OH YEAH also he and sidon.. hm. i think sidon would tease him/punk him a lot. be more mean but thatd be why theyd get along in the end. frienemies. vah naboris. would be awful. sand in his feathers the same way mipha had sand in her scales. itd be Doubly hot for him, so he’d have to go at night but rito have terrible night vision so it sucks, and he cant even get into town. he spends a good minute arguing with the guard, not about wanting to be let in but to do Divine Beast things. eventually riju has been summoned and, while exasperated, she believes him. he still has to get the thunder helm, and hes more neutral on the yiga than mipha is. he sees them as a threat but like. he doesnt despise them. if they werent threats itd be fine. i think hes also slightly scared of them. he sneaks through, master kohgas defeated and the yiga are after him, and actually doing naboris hed also need a hazmat suit for. though its a bit better because ARCHERY YEEAAHH 🔥🔥🔥🔥💶💶💶🦅🦅🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹. urbosa would feel the same like she did with mipha, except more exasperated and defeated because Its Revali. daruk would be happy to see him though still. link may or may not be a spirit here? itd be tense at first but i think itd mirror their friendship arc pre cal (of which i need to answer that ask i am sorry) except the roles would be swapped. youll see. anyways yeah. payas meh to him, doesnt like impa a lot but doesnt hate her, would debate purah probably Somehow. he wouldnt buy links house probably. memory locations: his bow and arrow, the flight range, the tabantha village ruins, tanagaar canyon/dinraal, mabe village perhaps, one of zelda same with mipha, links grave, and maybe one of impa. also possibly one at the secret hot springs. post cal he’d constantly help rito village and thats it. Maybe help zelda if she sends a letter but yeah. he’d have to find a hobby though
living along side link. he would also help purah and robbie, though less so. he’d be forced to greet link but in the meantime he’d protect his village and basically become the elder. seeing a young link whiles he old would be… disconcerting. he’d probably feel a mixture of guilt and anger. same deal as mipha though he has a paraglider for him. he wouldnt kill the guardians however and would just find a route for him to avoid them. he’d also be straightforward about what happened to link as opposed to mipha, so their relationship would be less strained as time goes on. he travels with him up to rito village and no more. i think he’d also visit the champion descendants to do his best to help them out.
daruk!! he’d go to the champions straight away. vah ruta is isolated in water which he cant get to (and also has a shield), vah medohs way too high up, and naboris wont stay still, and though hes mighty he can absolutely get crushed by naboris’s legs. god how would he die. yiga misfire maybe???? malice once again?? probably just an accumulation of malice. hed try to instantly leave the plateau (no fall damage like majoras mask goron rock ball form) and while rhoam (if he was there) would try to tease him he’d have to just tell him ‘hey. you Have to do this. Its important. please’ or would straight away tell him the truth. if a goron spirit was there . shrugs. theyd probably focus on strength and building enough to get ganon. goron city, hailed as hero though hes a bit uncomfortable about that and tries to both take it and be mature(?) about it if that makes sense. like hes more comfortable with it than mipha, but it still puts him off a little. vah rudania would hate to see him (rudania missed him so much its unbelievable). vah ruta would be. one Hell of a divine beast to do. he’d have to use a thunder sword instead of arrows, and he’d be A Test to sidons strength as a whole. OH ALSO yunobo would love him !!!!! him bludo and yunobo would probably hang out post cal. anyways. vah naboris he would simply slam into their legs instead of bomb arrows. still would need the thunder helm. master kohga would respect daruk enough however business is business and right now theyre enemies. daruk would not like the yiga like mipha . closer to the hate scale than revali but less than mipha. he’d be pretty pissed at them and wouldnt realize why for a while. the yiga have to get inventive when he becomes wanted which means new weapons methinks!! also he’s let into gerudo town. gorons r genderless so. hell yeah. and. ok so daruk cant get up to vah medoh theres. not many options. either he’s chucked from hebra peak at all of medohs batteries and is finally chucked on board, Or if youve seen klerics 10 ways link can make it up to that divine beast on his own he does that. also also urbosa would have more hope with daruk than mipha and revali. revali would secretly be happy to see the guy. link might be a spirit as usual. memories! his stone smasher, death mountains peak, military training camp, the place where link saved him which he mentions in his diary, the hot springs/springs near the base of death mountain, honestly probably meeting mipha (maybe trading fish) ((where no clue, though he has memories of the other champions like all of them of which they arent the samw memory locations in botw. like miphas statue doesnt trigger a memory for daruk and anyone else ok sorry)), uhh zelda, impa?, links grave, and maybe some place in akkala.
the second scenario he would constantly try to help the descendants rather than link as he figures purah and robbie got it covered, but he visits them while they do great plateau things and they chat!! maybe try to take care of guardians. he would be the most straightforward with link, both in helping him gain strength but in his memories. he’ll offer to travel but wont force it on him. other than that he’d stay on death mountain with rudania. most things wouldnt be a threat with daruk around honestly. just a support beam basically. kind of sad because i. dunno what kind of character arc he would have in most of this. </3
urbosa!!! she’d take a quick glance at her people but go to zeldas and the champions aid. its hard to tell which she’d go for first.. like on one hand she’s biased towards zelda but she just went through a blight and can hear the SOS signals of the others. maybe multitasking? getting naboris to zelda as fast as she can, picking her up/dropping her off (which could lead to some chatting on the way), and then to a divine beast, maybe realizing about a quarter left of the way that theyre already dead and theres no point now. mipha would have a similar revelation probably just.. later. but urbosa dies helping zelda and impa, either distracting something or getting ambushed. great plateau, you know the drill. if rhoam was there theyd have some, “lovely” chats (theyd be So petty against each other. she’d find out her smiting power by trying smite him. though they are friends and have fun and would drink with each other.) and once her whole deal is revealed they have a little heart to heart, and this becomes even more serious to her. she’d go straight to the castle or would reluctantly go to kakariko taking rhoams suggestion seriously. if a gerudo was there it’d probably be more fighting training/regaining strength, plus. warnings of the world beyond this plateau. anyways. impa and her would be besties (though impa would be.. too lax for her). and she’d enjoy paya a lot, maybe try to flex on her to tease her. zoras domain dorephan and her would get along i think AND OH WAIT. SHE HAS LIGHTNING POWERS. if she can get the thunder helm she could finish vah ruta in one strike (though it Does worry the zora a bit). she may throw shade at muzu for his hate of hylians and of the shekiah tech (especially the latter i think). sidon and her would be battle buddies i think, theyd constantly try to outdo each other but still respect each other to have Actual Teamwork. dynamic duo that will kill you. also she makes fun of him sometimes. anyways. mipha would be pretty happy to see her! death mountain. either drinks the elixir first and then realizes most people apply it on their skin so. oops. but she doesnt really care so she keeps drinking it like its champagne. chugging. despite being used to the desert she still doesnt like the heat. yunobo and her would also get along i think!! she would just immediately kill whatever hes afraid of and he looks in. slight fear. though the mines was a workout for her and shes making sure he knows he Owes Her for that one. anyways daruk would be ecstatic to see her theyre Instant Besties. new ghost pal perhaps as well. he’d yell like a sports fan everytime she beats the blight/gets a hit. its chaotic that time the energy is just net positive despite the circumstances. hebra. honestly. she might be ok with it? the desert is cold at night and she lives next to snowy mountains. nice change of pace. teba gets her up there pretty easily, maybe bow troubles? slices the targets with her sword as teba watches in surprise yet defeat. revali and her would, once again, be very petty. however revali would still worry with the blight but she’s fine. i think she’d hate the rotating angle of vah medoh. aaand naboris!!! no freeing to do she just gets to see a long time friend of hers (naboris). she’d love riju and riju may feel a bit of pressure, but over all she’s welcomed back with open arms (maybe some new locals not recognizing her which would be interesting). though she’d have to clear the yiga. now on the hate scale, she probably wants them annihilated (i am so sorry). like riju would have to pull her back saying ‘heyheyhey yeah they suck but dont??? kill them??? or their entire clan????’ which would only barely stop her. she wouldnt even try to sneak through she’d fight them and threaten kohga for the thunder helm. kohga lets her have it without fight and makes a retreat, though he probably lays low? if he hunts her afterwards is debatable because on one hand she Is a threat to them and ganon, but also she Can kill them before they teleport and retreat. so a bit of a choice. also hateno, purah and her wouldnt be-
too much of friends but theyd get along well enough. same with robbie. she wouldnt get links house to her its not her problem. or maybe she does but because she’d think itd be a nice place for zelda. kass and her would just be diplomats to each other. link spirit maybe shrugs . memories!! sword and shield, kara kara bazaar, southern oasis?, shield surfing champion shrine that she did, patricia maybe?, digg dogg suspension bridge, a spring memory with zelda, flora and fauna with zelda, links grave, impa, the champions yadda yadda. the memory numbers probably dont match up between all the champions sorry
second scenario!!! exclusively helps zelda and either stops her from letting ganon eat her or tries her best to fight ganon before retreating and he eats zelda. then she just. wanders. purah probably helping her cope or just. do things. she might even stay in kakariko for a bit, and she moves out of gerudo town. she’d say goodbye to everyone of course. but ywah. also maybe guard kakariko from yiga of which cado would fear her immensely. she’d either greet link or let rhoam do it and just meet link at kakariko and be Cryptic and Vague like he was but push him towards helping zelda, maybe even traveling with him. however she’d probably try to have him stay On Track constantly which would go. poorly. either that or she silently judges him but doesnt say anything. she’d only really hammer in to Go To Castle once all the divine beasts are free. they probably split off though, urbosa going to either chill or help in some way just elsewhere. like helping robbie light his ancient oven and getting guardian tools. also she has more wrinkles now shes super super old
if link isnt revived but the champions arent put in the SoR itd just be a mix of the two scenarios, slowly chipping at the divine beasts while helping out globally and getting old and having to cope with everything afterwards because they still have their memories
this . may not have been what you meant. i am sorry. however. thumbs up
ALSOALSO wanting the yiga dead is not a morally pure/correct course of action for them. it is not morally right thing to annihilate an entire group of people this isnt a bug its a feature. them wanting the yigas dead is not good. just in case.
#wreath of the bild#tw implied death#cw death#HELLO!! not much to say#dont want people getting the wrong idea thats why i put the last comment there uhm. yeah
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totk spoilers
just finished the ending
WOW
i cant put it into words. each moment gripped me. I was like "meh come on" at the beginning in the castle, thinking this was NOT gonna be hard, that this was going to be disappointing like BOTW. but no... no...
it felt like a movie, but in the way a game should feel like a movie. I made sure to go in there with my champions tunic, my master sword, and everyone with me (before purah required* me too lol)
it was built up so well. first with the 4 terminals that were zelda (AND "ZELDA" CALLING TO YOU... OUGH. her voice was very... off in a way and i liked that.
then all the fights, and then going down... they gave link a little more emotion I LOVED WHEN THE SAGES SHOWED UP I WAS POGGING FOR REAL... the part with going back to lookout landing was a bit.. eh. but i guess thats good to like., have for those who were not prepared...
DIVING DOWN... EXPLORING... i felt everything they wanted me to. dread. fear. melancholy. loneliness. When the sages suddenly vanished, i felt more anxious and alone, less secure. i wanted my friends with me.
Then finally, I reached the final boss. Ganon sent his army, and that was great, then all the bosses showed up and i thought i had to fight them all at once !! ! but thankfully you dont,, but ALSO your friends leave you AGAIN! ! ! no!!! dont leave me :(
Then the fight... ganondorf was INTIMIDATING. this was SUCH an upgrade to botw. When HE FLURRY RUSHED BACK AT YOU! WHEN HE DID ALL THOSE SICKASS MOVES AND BACKFLIPPED AND REALLY JUST., WALKED TOWARDS YOU SLOWLY... AND THET WAY HIS MOVEMENTS ARE LIKE SAMURAI (I THINK, I HOPE, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HOW THE WAY HE RUNS-- THIS WOULD INSINUATE HE'S OLD FASHIONED WHICH IS A GREAT DETAIL!) THEN TEH SECOND PHASE AND HOW HIS HEALTH BAR GETSE FUCKING BIGGER ! ! ! YES PUT FEAR INTO MY HEART MY EYES WERE BUGGIN OUT and then YOUR FRIENDS COME BACK ! ! ! Then when you finally get him, you're alone again and I LOVE HOW HIS GLOOM IS SO POWERFUL IT FULLY DELETES YOUR HEARTS SO YOU CANT FOODSPAM OR YOU NEEDED TO PREPARE GLOOMFOOD FOR IT. then the dragon...
oh i knew he was gonna swallow that fucking stone the minute he put his hand there i was LOSING IT.
HOW GHIBLI-ESQUE. HOW CINEMATIC. HOW AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL AND EVERYTHING BOTW/TOTK SHOULD BE ! ! ! ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TRIFORCE TOGETHER, FIGHTING, WITH ZELDA AND GANON AS MASSIVE DRAGONS-- ONE OF WHICH YOU RIDE WHICH I WAS SO HAPPY ABOUT AND THEN HOW EPIC IT IS TO FLY DOWN THERE AND GET HIS LITTLE BACK SPOTS ouuuuuugh the flying was amazing and so wonderful and its always felt wonderful! ! ! then how cinematic was the fucking ENDING WITH HELPING OUT ZELDA AND HOW IT STRIPS LINK IS A LITTLE WEIRD BUT IT MAKES SENSE TO HOW OFF HIS ARM AND MAKE SURE HE ISNT IN A STUPID OUTFIT
how magical the scenery... and when link just fell back, and how you castle of cagliostro down to grip her, and how it parallels the beginning scene with accidentally letting her go which is why this whole thing happened.
the ending... when she said she was "home"... ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
im not normal and im going to be writing a fic about her recovery and making her more sad and angry and hurt for the hurt/comfort.
all in all, 1000000000000000/10 ending. im disappointed in the zonai lore and how this did not feel like a sequel but this is a great game and it made me care so much about Zelda... I care her so fucking much she is living in my brain
*not sure if doing all that is required or if you can go to ganon straight away
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but you're so right about everything with totk. you put it in words so well 😭 idk if you found memory 9, so i won't spoil anything, but it was SO GOOFY look up gmod smile after you watch it and explode instantly. loftwings would've made the game infinity better, like skeleehorses can go over gloom (such a silly name btw) and horses are always great, but there's nothing to ride in the sky??? missed oppurtunity imo. i basically play with no tech becuase i hate using it 😔 i have much to say on this game and sadly most of it around the plot isn't thatg nice
SKELEHORSES CAN GO OVER GLOOM??????
but no yeah i dont enjoy the tech lol. i think modern tech in fantasy is a slippery slope from “woah cool its so interesting how this fantastical society developed things we never couldve thought of” to “this isnt even fantasy its just sci-fi with medieval paint slapped over it” thats what botw vs. totk is to me. we went from giant magical mechs and tech that felt more like sentient creatures to a straight up four wheeler. also its just clunky. to me. vexes me.
i am playing it very slowly for several reasons so im not far im only two memories in (trying to do them in order) lol but im not impressed by the writing either again ive only beat the rito “dungeon” idk what to call it. it was fine. really felt like they just tried to replicate the divine beasts but it didnt work. the weird disembodied voice felt forced in totk its just this random exposition guy that felt like he was just there for the sake of mimicking the structure of the champions talking to you where in botw that makes sense because they’re important characters that you learn more about and play a role in the story and also they literally died and their souls were trapped in their beasts. and totk was like ah shit ah fuck we gotta have another disembodied voice throw this guy in there and have him lore drop on you. who is he. who cares.
and then the divine beasts were like interesting involved puzzles there was one i thiiiink the camel you literally had to turn entire parts of it to line up electrical signals to get places and unlock things it was a little frustrating but i had to think about it!! same with the elephant you had to control the entire mechanism to move things and you had to Think about it. the rito ship was just go find these things. ok the divine beasts were also that with the terminals but you had to work for it. totk really just went go walk around for awhile and find them. no real puzzle to it. there was a little bit with the doors/levers but it did not feel nearly as involved or thought through.
i will say i did like the boss fight the ice guy. cool guy. looked cool baller music neat new little thing you had to do to beat it i liked it. that was cool i will give them that they know how to get me pumped for a boss fight
ok but the cutscene with zelda near the beginning was goofy as hell. just straight up like woaaaahh she floated into the sky thats crazy!!! whaaat!!!!! felt extremely silly. i was sitting there like is this a gag is this supposed to be funny i cannot tell. very much threw me off. could not take seriously
also. fucking. got rid of her again. if they wanted to have the same success of botw maybe they should’ve gee idk changed the formula again and let zelda be with us. a two player zelda game would be so cool. even if it was still single player and we could just interact with her and have her with us im thinking kindof last of us/resident evil 4 style where she helps you do certain puzzles or helps you fight like other npcs. even if she just stayed at the base and helped purah with research and you could talk to her thatd be more interesting. GIVE HER TO ME!!
the intro really just felt like oh we have to get rid of zelda again because we need link to be alone so we can copy botw uhhhhh magic rock teleports her to the past yeah yeah that works. they decided they needed this to happen and then made a story to excuse those choices rather than actually construct something cohesive.
im not even halfway through the game so i dont wanna be tooo hard on it or form strong opinions but id rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointment after getting my hopes up. i havent been spoiled for anything but i have seen people complain in general so im kinda leaning towards disappointment lol. like its zelda im still having fun i just also am looking at it from a critcal point of view and i have plenty to say. i used this as an excuse to talk for a looong time anyways. im currently working on getting specific horse colors that i preplaned by looking at this horse chart to name after characters from a book i like ✌️ i didnt pay 70 dollars to not have any fun with this game so help me god i am going to enjoy Some of it
#ITS FUN IM HAVING FUN!!!!!!! *said through gritted teeth*#i just also think a lot of the choices were bad. or not even really choices. i hope other people have fun and enjoy it im enjoying the#content ive seen other people make#the depths are my one solace…. i love her……….#anyways.. hi anon…. thanks for giving me an excuse to complain ❤️#i am so sorry i havent done shit and i dont want spoilers so i cannot join you in dunking on the later story#one day. one day ill finish totk. not right now tho
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i wanna wait till i finish totk to post about it a lot(bc im still not far in game) but im lowkey disappointed a bit story wise? i was rlly excited on the sky islands and i loved what was going on w/ the zonai and then...link fell...to the surface...
1 why is zelda reinstating the monarch and hyrule’s systems of power with no clear deviations to how the power structure was already ran ie she is the ultimate authority no counsel or advisors??? ik we r early into the rebuilding so tbh, so maybe shge has plans but needs to start off small like how making lookout landing so idk if my fears r unfounded, but for botw to show how clearly and detrimentally hyrule’s system of power could destroy the nation bc the king’s power and authority was left unchecked leading to zelda’s own royal duties completely crippling her potential to help her kingdom and her not being shown to be the best fit for the life of a monarch i am just slightly raising my brow rn, im not arguing she shouldnt be in charge bc she is clearly doing her best but i do find it strange we r just...going back to hyrule’s monarchy and not something like an oligarchy including the other rulers and leaders?? maybe as i go to the other regions and meet more characters this will be explained more how exactly hyrule’s new government is going???
2 why is link so...unknown? this was a problem in botw too where basically no one knew about or rlly cared about link’s status as the hero which was notably more important in past games, now hes literally just some guy who follows zelda around and waves a fancy sword(even tho hes the reason calamity is gone not zelda even tho ppl acted like her sealing power was the key there :///). even ppl who know him in game assume he is a stranger which at first i assumed was bc he went missing but like...even by new characters who know him he is just aid to be zelda’s swordsman and zelda’s protector??? ppl seemed much more concerned she disappeared than link even the lookout parties specifically say they r for her not link...and the ppl of hateno thought he was a tourist when he lived there BEFORE zelda did? she literally is living in his house not the other way around???? people like robbie and purah of course know him but like why dont the people of hateno or hell even some of the stable people remember him?? why is he again delegated to just the princess’s knight when in botw it clearly showed that BOTH link and zelda suffered under their destined mantles? link is still following her around and being known only because of her not even known as the people’s hero? like was this a continue choice on link’s part or even after dying for zelda and losing his memories of everything except zelda n the champions is he still genuinely wanting to be her servant and not friend and equal???
i think my ass is a bit too anti-authority for loz bc i thought botw was going to deconstruct the hyrule monarchy and the role of the hero and princess and show how them falling into such stereotypes of the dauntless knight and pure princess was what caused them to be unprepared and fail in the first place. i thought in totk it would show them not as princess and knight but as idk?? more so guardians of hyrule who help out when needed but r not active leaders, i didnt think they were just gonna force link back to being a knight and force the crown and its burdens back onto zelda’s head especially when botw hinted heavily neither of them??? particularly wanted to be that??? the scene in the rain i thought implied they both felt pressure to be what the kingdom needed them to be and post botw they would simply idk live their best life
am i tripping like i feel like i am bc this is jsut...rlly bumming me out and it kinda knocked my excitement down when no one in hateno recognized me even tho link lived there for years and barely anyone even knew who link was outside of his relationship to zelda? it also made me rlly confused why zelda would even want to be princess again? i get her being a leader dont get me wrong, but there are other ways for her to do that then reinstating the monarchy like being a spiritual leader for hyrule or her and link being travelers who help wherever they r needed(which is...lowkey what i assumed happened after botw and kinda was right but also very very wrong :()))
maybe i read one too many fics where they let their pasts stay in the past and carved out a new place for them in this new hyrule bc clearly totk isnt rlly...going to be focused on those theme and is instead very much leaning into the relearning one’s history thing
#god i hope i dont sound whiny like 'boo hoo totk isnt what i hced!!!'#its rlly not that at elast i think tis not#its jsut not the direction i wanted for either character ig???#ehh ill still play im jsut temperign my expecdations#tears of the kingdom#loz#link#zelda#lore rambles#ig#trix posts#is this spoilers i geuinly do not know bc i am only mentiong very early game stuff#and kidna vaugly#ask to tag#ig that works
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how are you enjoying TotK's story so far?
on the dragons tears side i only have 3, 4, 5, 6, and 10 so by no means the complete picture, but unfortunately i have been spoiled for the end of it, i think? ive also only completed the rito regional disturbance quest. ill talk abt what i think so far below the cut
from what ive seen of it, the story is interesting. i dont particularly like time shenanigans stories, more often than not they enable lazy character/writing decisions, create plot holes, and wander around too much to have coherent themes. when time travel comes up in stories i always feel like there needs to be a justification, some lesson or reason that is realized for why it needed to happen. so u can imagine that my experience with the dragons tears so far has been waiting for that justification moment, which i think i already have?
apparently zelda turns into a dragon. tear 5 talks about draconification and how people lose themselves, and ive seen fanart and dragon zelda's actual model in-game flying around the eldin archipelago (made me pretty emotional, though i do suspect any significant reaction i might have with this has been ruined by being spoiled). this is where the story is treading ice for me, and im being super careful to avoid the leadup to the whole dragon thing. because if its a situation where zelda is forced into it, theres no other way and she HAS to do this or else the world explodes or whatever, then i dont think ill be super fond. itll feel like a rehash of what happened during the calamity in botw, where zelda is forced into holding it back for 100 years until link heals. i dont like it when stories have good arcs (in this case, zelda's) but just retread it because theres a sequel and it doesnt know how to further develop the character.
on the other hand, if zelda chooses to make this decision with her own autonomy and reasons, like thinks about it, then i think this writing decision could work as a way of showing how much she's grown when placed in that similar situation she was in during the calamity. zeldas arc is all about love and connection, whether that be with link or her other friends, including love for herself. all i ask for is that the dragons tears story builds upon this instead of just redoing botw but worse
on the rito side of things, i thought it was fun. tulin is a fun little dude. i think its fascinating how hes positioned at the beginning as seeming arrogant and uncooperative, but grows to realize that he needs to rely on others to do the things he wants. hes almost a character foil of revali in that way. the wind powers being revealed as a sage thing is also interesting. obviously i and many other players have made a connection between tulins wind gust (i like to call it tulins tornado c:) and revalis gale, and we know teba isnt related in any way to revali like the rest of them are to the champions. so it does feel like a little extra W from beyond the grave on revali's end. turns out he really did bootstraps his way into rediscovering lost magic. TLDR; i love tulin to bits, even if i wish teba got a tad more screen time. who knows, maybe he'll show up more later.
i would try commenting on the events of the actual game and how they effect link, because link's arc (which happens during the actual game, which i guess the player guides him on) is really important to botw, and i assume it'll be structured similarly here. but obviously im not done with the game so theres not much for me to talk about. i will say that, god. link must be feeling like SHIT. i know when i went to hateno and saw he and zelda lived together, then saw that all the kids in the school loved her enough to draw pictures, i got really choked up. i know i said any significant reaction to the "zelda is a dragon" story beat ill have will be muted by being spoiled beforehand, but depends on how its actually revealed/how link reacts i might still take it like a little baby
so yeah. those are my thoughts
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ok maybe im saying them
ok no but the totk is so dark allegations especially compared to botw (becaue its the sequel) drive me up a wall because in botw
there are burned-down remnants of villages that are testament to the fact that zelda wasn't able to prevent the calamity from happening. these are everywhere
zelda's friends and her family are dead. They died terrible deaths in the divine beasts and they werent even able to run away. the SOS signal thing makes this way worse. They are ghosts are trapped in corrupted machines and can only sit by and watch. which if you think about too hard is incredibly messed up
link dies in her arms trying to protect her.
not to mention that zelda is going to have to live with all this after the fact
meanwhile in totk
scary evil holes
scary guy in big evil hole
dragon gf (this is kind of a cop out i think that was pretty serious so im not going to try and say that wasnt like. a big deal)
like yeah sonia dies but like? its not that big of a deal. as the player i dont feel the impact. its just very much oh yeah. sad i guess but like i dont really care.
not to mention the fact that all of the bad things that happen in totk are erased (zelda turns normal, links arm is fixed) while in botw link and zelda have to live with the fact that entire populations and their friends are just. dead. there's no getting what was there back. There's hope for a better future (that's the whole point) but at the same time things are incredibly broken and permanent (this is also why having the sheikah tech disappear drives me up a wall in totk bc it also erases the legacies of the champions but that's completely another thing grahhhhh) . so theres that
i think that totk having kind of a "darker aesthetic" (evil scaryholes + graveyard like areas in the depths) makes people say things like this but if we're going off of what actually happens and the emotional weight that the characters feel and how that handled botw is way more serious
many many totk thoughts . not saying them. but jsut know
#i didnt even get to the way technology is handled in botw v totk because that is something that reallyyyyy grinds my gears fr#^anyway this is not a totk haterism btw! i just like tearing things apart because its fun to me#i enjoy totk and i like it and there are several things i think it did rlly well! but at the same time i am insane abt botw#and will probably continue to be if were being honest. . as a sequel to botw i have some issues#but overall i like it so i rlly dont want ppl taking this the wrong way. its just my opinion#i am looking at wooden blocks and comparing them and contrasting them by color and shape this is fun to me#this may or mayyyy not be coherent im just kind of saying things off the the top of my head. so . yeagh <3
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shoutout to daruk for only having one line mentioning zelda
#everybody elses final messages all had way too much 'talking to zelda through link' and not enough 'actually talking to link#even MIPHA who is arguably the closest person to him talks more about her than to link#i dont care about zelda i care about the champions and link#for someone who only actually shows up for like 10 minutes at the end she sure has a lot of screentime#also also. i love this scene#but why did YUNOBO (did not personally know daruk) get to see his spirit#while SIDON (literally mipha’s little brother) didnt get to see her? or at least mipha saw him?#or even riju (chief at a young age also related to urbosa) not seeing her?#teba i understand theres no connection beyond being warriors#going to be mad about this forever btw.#botw#loz#mb plays a game
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botw for the fandom ask game!! :>
That ask game⤴️⤴️⤴️
Also hiii!!! Thank you for the ask!
(( Here's me actually replying to one, so sorry man, I Always procrastinate answering, I have Like three Other ask Games Just rotting in my inbox)))
Anyway, this was really fun!
Favorite Male Character: Revali!!!
Favorite Female Character: ahhh, this is a lot harder mhhhh..... Zelda, Mipha, Urbosa.... Ummmmmm ah??? I really wanna say Zelda, but totk........ Can be ignored. My answer is Zelda, she's the best and I Love her.
Least Favorite Character: I dont think I have one of those if we're only talking about botw... If we're expanding to age of calamity and tears of the kingdom, however, I would say Terrako and Rauru
Favorite Ship: revalink, all the way!! But I doubt thats a surprise for anyone following me😅😅
(Zelimpa and Zelpha are amazing aw well, so I wanna mention them too)
Favorite friendship: I'm very biased and this is 100000% influenced by the fanfiction finding link (my favorite, If you havent read it, do it!! Its so good!!! Omg!!)(😱😱😱) but I like Zelda and Revali as best friends. Their friendship would Go so hard guys.
Favorite Quote: I used to have a quote as my blog name! "[Link] Du bist der Schlüssel... Du warst es immer!" (eng: You are the key... You always were!), which is what Revali says at the end of the vah medoh quest after Link is teleported away. I'm Not sure If its my favorite quote, but it Sounds oddly romantic Out of context, heh
Worst Character Death (if any): all of them, man :-(
This made me so happy you have no idea Moment: mhhh the entirety of the Champions ballad dlc, which isnt excactly a moment, but do we care about that?
Saddest Moment: that one memory were Zelda cries, breaks my heart every time (Go listen to the german dub of that Scene, zelda's voice actress is KILLING it. Rent was due. 10/10 crying snot and water)
(Honorable mentions to Mipha telling Link to save Zelda as he's teleported away at the end of the vah ruta quest. Her voice?? Hello? Very Zelpha, Go watch it!)(If you feel Like it)
Favorite Location: ohhh also hard... I really Like akkala, (probably because I like fall🍂🍂🍂) but theres honestly Not much going on there haha😅 ACTUALLY NO WAIT A MINUTE,.vah medoh! If that counts as a Location (i think it does)
Attacking vah medoh with Teba is one of my favorite parts of the game, its so fun! (And maybe a Bit easy too😅)
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No matter how much a game tries to make me care about the past (before you actually play) in the story I cannot be bothered to give a shit.
If I don’t play through it or have any connections I really don’t care.
I’m looking at you breath of the wild
#in twilight princess at least you get to hang in ordon for a while and build a connection and then they take away the children#but in botw im suppose to care about zelda and the champions right away but i dont because i as the player dont know them#and link doesnt remember them#no amount of flash backs will help me care if i as the player am not involved#however i care about the people i meet like cass and paya#i also care deeply about my horse socks but thats my own biz#botw#halia speaks#more like halia rants
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