#hyuga slavery

[exposingliesofhinatafandom]

🤡: Hiashi is a horrible father for hinata! He forced her to become a kunoichi when she never wanted to! Hinata is far too kind to be a kunoichi,this is so cruel!

Yet you have zero problems with Chouza making Choji a shinobi. Hiashi never “forced” hinata to do anything at all—hinata always wanted to be a kunoichi and her speech about “ninja way” on chunin exam proves this.

Hinatafans made up a lie about “Hiashi abusing hinata”—there is not a single panel in the manga odd hinata actually being abused—solely so that they can remove any responsibility for her own actions and behavior from hinata and blame it all on Hiashi.

Nobody calls “abusive” Shikaku,Inoichi, Chouza,Shibi, Tsuna,Fugaku for making Shikamaru,Ino,Choji ,Shino,Kiba,Sasuke and Itachi ninjas—Minato literally forced Naruto to become a jinjuriki what caused him to be badly bullied and neglected his whole childhood,but fandom still cheers on Namikadze as number one father. Because it NEVER was about actual abuse: hinatafans just need a scapegoat for hinata’s actions so they lie about Hiashi “abusing” and “forcing” her.

When hinata trains Boruto and Himawari in non-canon novels,openings/endings hinatafans piss their pants from joy,but when Hiashi trains hinata this is suddenly labeled as “abuse”.

[naruto-general-opinions]

[nejihyugaisgod]

This is such a great example of how Studio Pierrot completely changed hinata in the anime!

hinata abandoned injured Ko alone,who got hurt protecting her,and hinata knew that later Ko will be tortured by hiashi because of her and she didn’t care!

Ko and Hinata are one of my BrOTPs!

[atanxdoesstuff]

a scene from @tsukuyue 's fic "Cell Mates (oh my god they were cell mates)" that wouldn't leave my head so i had to draw it sadjiaklwdk

[flintsilvers]

i could rewrite naruto and make it better (i would make it worse)

[nejiisbetterthanyou]

You are a brain dead bitch,who deserves to be raped to death.

“Sakura is a horrible person for making fun of Naruto for being an orphan”

Let's see what other characters did when they were the same age as Sakura

Naruto :

Disguised himself into Sasuke to kiss Sakura without her consent

Mocked Sasuke's dead clan

Ino :

Fat-shamed Choji even though he's made it clear multiple times he hates being called fat

Neji :

Humiliated Hinata, who already had low self esteem, in front of everyone

Attempted to kill her to punish her for something which wasn't her fault

Shikamaru :

Unapologetically misogynist and generalised all women

Sasuke :

Tried to kill his best friend in the name of power

Funny how all these characters were of Sakura's age did something as equally bad as her or worse yet only Sakura gets shit for it. Hypocrisy?

They were kids, who were naive and didn't have the maturity to act the wisest (in Sakura, Naruto, Ino and Shikamaru's case) or traumatised with no one to properly help them (in Sasuke's and Neji's case) and all of them eventually grew up and became better.

It's ridiculous to still hold Sakura for saying something insensitive in her childhood.

Bonus :

She immediately regrets after Sasuke calls her out but y'all probably don't remember it.

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

What do you think about hinata

Hi there, anon.

I don't really have an elaborate opinion about her, I don't give her many thoughts, actually. She is mostly irrelevant to me.

She was born from the enslaver branch of her family, something that can't really be blamed on her. As a kid, I don't think she was clever or deep enough to understand the position of privilege she was in, her brain was apparently equipped barely enough to fangirl Naruto. So, when people trash her for not empathising with Neji, really, I see their point but I can't really blame a child for the crimes of adults.

As an adult she clearly had a responsibility to end slavery in her clan. Some people claim she has no power as she is not head of her clan, but I am sure her Hokage husband can give a hand. Konoha pretends to be unwilling to meddle in private clan affairs, but we know they indeed do so when they find it convenient. So I don't want to hear any excuses, we see her (them) doing nothing, so I can't respect her (them) at all. I wonder what the Hyuga people from the side branch are thinking or doing right now... I think they are in need of a revolution against those parasites...

[lunaneko14]

Imagine if Hinata did anything close to this. Saku stans would be calling her a pervert but yeah Sakura isn’t a sexual predator. Y’all call Hinata stalker for watching Naruto train but imagine the outrage if she wanted to watch him pee? Hypocrites as usual.

And I don’t wanna hear “she was twelve” when y’all blame Hinata for Hyuga slavery every day and she was a baby born into that. Sakura stans need to stfu and realize their princess needs to be put on a list.

[nejiwasalwaysright]

Yea,art is cute and Neji is stunning.

Neji never liked sunflowers.

hinata just assumes that Neji is obligated to love sunflowers because he is obligated to love himawari.

Neji is hinata’s slave,hinata knows this very well and treats Neji accordingly: expecting the love from him because she thinks that he owes her it.

hinata didn’t bother to close Neji’s eyes when he died and left him laying face down in dirt,I guarantee you that this bitch never bothered to ask what flowers Neji likes.

Nejiten Month 2023 Day 4: Warmth

Sea of sunflower 🌻 🌻

Artist: 柚虾-YUeibi

Reposted with permission

[naruto-general-opinions]

[leportraitducadavre]

Do you think people in the fandom would be more forgiving towards Sasuke character as a whole if we got the show from his perspective or if not that then if his thoughts are more shown?

I find myself drawn to his character because, in many ways, I see reflections of my own inclinations, albeit magnified. The tumultuous events that unfolded within his clan and the devastating actions of his brother, wiping out everyone, add a layer of complexity to his character. It's kind of intrigued me to consider that, under similar circumstances, I might make similar choices, perhaps even worse. The Narutoverse, with its deeply rooted issues like child soldiers, clan annihilation, and internal slavery within the Hyuga branch, presents a grim reality. While some characters, and even elements of the fandom, criticize and reject his actions, arguing that trauma should not be an excuse, it's hard to ignore the systemic problems within the Narutoverse itself. The pervasive cycle of suffering, with clans being wiped out and individuals enslaved, points to a broken system that breeds villains and antagonists seeking change.

In contrast to the complacency and cooperation displayed by many characters, those who rebel against the established order and strive for something different, flawed as their execution may be, at least attempt to address the root issues. The fact that they are trying to break free from the oppressive system suggests a level of agency and resistance, even if I may not fully agree with their methods. That's why I'm more forgiving towards the antagantis like Pain, Madara and especially in Sasuke case.

Reflecting on Naruto's journey and his current achievements the fundamental issues persist unchanged.

Also, sorry if this got long I ramble a lot when discussing lol. I hope you have a good day.

Hello, this took long to reply, and for that, I apologize.

I don’t think the issue is “not having Sasuke’s thoughts on display” for him to get sympathy, as we get to see firsthand the reasoning behind his actions, his background, and connections; we also get to see the atrocities committed by the system on multiple characters including those that the fandom takes as “less controversial” and which are considered victims of a bigger scale than Sasuke. I put more blame on the naturalization of state-sanctioned violence and the oppression of minority groups who are then blamed for their village’s actions as they are “savage-coded,” which turns the government’s oppression into a response to their behavior rather than an action born from their own bias. Their ultimate argument always boils down to “fighting violence with violence is not the way,” yet they fail to understand that a government built with brutality as its primary basis and as its primary tool leaves no room for negotiations, as it also implies that those oppressed continue to be oppressed until a “solution” is reached through time. They blame those discriminated against and later on massacred for their demise and not those in power who decided that committing genocide was a plausible solution to their dispute. 

The main issue with the idea that “their hearts are in the right place, but I don’t agree with the antagonist methods” also derives from this same perspective, where the discriminated must take all the consequences of the persecution they suffered and choose the “moral high ground” still to keep being “victims” and not become “victimizers.” Their categorization as innocents/savages is always based upon their response to the mass killing of their kin, minimizing the actions of those in power and diminishing the value of their critics to the system in place. 

Yet, while the naturalization of state-sanctioned violence plays a part in Sasuke’s status as a “villain” by many of his detractors, it’s not the only one, as many feel Naruto has a similar (perhaps harder) experience with the system in place as he was ostracized, yet he chose to follow Konoha’s WoF –many fans are closer to experience something similar to Naruto (an unpopular kid that was often shunned by comrades), so they feel more inclined to stand behind a character that reflects a personal experience of them, and not behind the boy who suffered genocide, a thing not many can see themselves in nor can build sympathy for as they (again) naturalized such occurrence. 

The popularization of the action genre featuring first-world soldiers invading the global south, whose focus is more on the trauma that lingers in the invader for trying to bring peace than on the indiscriminate killing of minorities, also contributes to seeing those in power as more humane or deserving of redemption than those responding violently against the intruders, because those invaded should put their trust in the “good intentions” of those abiding by the system that destroyed them in the first place.

[bimgtt]

One thing is even if naruto acknowledged itachi's words not bearing everything alone that doesn't matter to Sasuke bc naruto is align with the system, like him also his friends they are blinded by WOF of Konoha, so they can't understand why Sasuke's revolution is important

Sasuke understands that the ninja system and missions based on usage of warfare, spying and proxy wars and WOF created autocratic blind and extreme nationalism like hokage's words are final laws who can change anything on a whim or may not reform anything from past hokage's mistakes as their blind amoral loyalist nationalism refrain them for any reform the best examples are

Hiruzen who did not reform anything for uchiha or Naruto who still teaches children endure and die for the village bc they are your family, child soldiers custom, unnecessary chunin exam ,

so for these reason sasuke can't align himself with these villages bc they have different types of ultra nationalist propaganda like WoF from Konoha, WoR from Iwa etc. where you can't choose different ways of life even if those ways of yours are harmless to the overall village population and you can't follow or advocate your ways bc corrupt and prejudiced and autocratic kage and elders will not let you go against any custom of shinobi as you just have to act and endure like a blind loyal tool without no question according to those kage and elders otherwise you will be executed or marginalized in your respective village even accept being bullied and shunned and hatred from villagers for their war trauma scapegoat like mainly kekegenkai clans and jinchurikii , you have to endure oppression from shinobi system and its shinobi and kage bc enduring for greater good and greater goals means being ninja that lies being align with the village where you can't advocate individual or certain group rights otherwise you will be targeted by corrupt and fascist and nationalist and autocratic people like Onoki, Danzo, Raikage, tobirama, Hiruzen and konoha elders and Suna elders, Kurotsuchi etc. who will do anything to maintain their respective village hegemony many examples in the whole naruto series for such these scenarios and mindsets and principle values for examples:

1.rin dying for greater of the village without relying on kakashi as she is blindly indoctrinated from the childhood even kakashi in the waves arc saying how "we" as shinobi are

2. Itachi being indoctrinated with blind nationalism of WOF which clouded his moral judgement and couldn't help him saying how segregation and confinement to one job were dangerous policy from authority and pure injustice for Uchiha and then daily bad words from villagers, even tho Uchiha also suffered so much from wars and missions and invasions

3. Sakumo hatake's suicide, amegakure and small villages being pillaged, naruto being shunned, jinchuriki practice, zabusa and haku's yuki caln genocide, uchiha clan genocide, iatchi and shisui immoral spying on their own people, neji's father death, hyuga slavery and curse, Madara being ostracized by tobirama from being hokage bc of sharaingan power without given any chance and proof for at least as beginner, child soldiers practice, immoral anbu spying practice, supressing your emotions for missions, glorifying your ancestors as Gods and WOF like propaganda without knowing their bad sides and betraying or opposing and leaving village means death, hokage's words and judgement are constitution no one can oppose, covering uo genocide, grooming and indoctrinated child soldiers in exteme belief of WoF propaganda like itachi, shikimaru, rin, naruto etc. and so on

Sasuke knew most of the people live in this shinobi framework which destined to bring disaster and inhuman and injustice to certain groups of people and individuals and disagreeing to opposition and different views where change and reform can't be possible in the long run as they all are in village circle blinded by this propaganda and shinobi system which is casuing child soldiers practice, jinchuriki practice, various tragedy, bullying, mass killing, genocide, systematic and direct oppression, cycle of hatred among clans, individuals and villages in the shinobi frame work, for the sole reason why Sasuke have to be alone for his revolution bc whole shinobi worlds are blinded by shinobi customs and propaganda in shinobi framework or shinobi system

So to cure the darkness that shinobi system created without time to time reform or fact checking, Sasuke have to be alone bc everyone is blinded by the system and stupid enduring meaning of the shinobi, so revolution is important no bloody it is bc people alrady died bc of this blind nationalist system that created only violence after violence down the line, either you maintain and judge it with impartial executioner like Sasuke or abandons this fascist and stop being ninja,

Being alone is necessary for Sasuke's revolution bc all of the shinobi people are blinded by shinobi village system, even in peace time child soldier still in practice where children still taught in ninja academy about fighting but not history of its dark side, in konoha shinden mirai still glorifies 3rd hokage without knowing his dirty secret and many house women talking about their children being in ninja academy but why chidren needs to go to ninja academy or shinobi missions only adults can go as it is peace time meaning nor kakashi nor naruto did not change a thing still practicing child soldier shinobi custom, bc of this non changing mindset of shinobi from these villages which is why Sasuke has to bear his Revolution alone so he could slowly uprooted it little by little and thus he can completely change the past of this shinobi village system no he will slowly destroy it to the core until shinobi start to live like normal civilian people so past will be totally transformed slowly

For sole reason why sasuke has to bear darkness alone in his revolution as darkness of the village causes proxy and cold wars or genocide or cycle of hatred, personal tragedy, brainwashing people immorally etc. which causes more and great war geopolitically down the line in the shinobi world and why changing the past of the shinobi system is necessary as everyone is blinded by the system

so in easy term sasuke has to do his revolution solely alone to be impartial as everyone is blinded by the system and behaves like blind brainwashed tool where no will understand his point how dangerous they have become under shinobi system and by becoming a darkness that darkness that shinobi system has been using for its villages hegemony and its interest and to destroy the past that current shinobi system has been based upon that caused so many inhuman acts and injustice that made everyone blind and ignorant to the truth and humanity and created paradoxical aspect in its nature and core

[tentenpropaganda]

the main problem with naruto fandom is just that like 98% of characters have done something very objectionable at some point, and people (myself included tbh) just tend to have a bias against whichever character just... caught them at the wrong moment, or did something that they find particularly objectionable. but, in the name of "critical analysis", people in fandom tend to really focus on, like, grading the morality of every character and action in the story (which is not really what critical analysis means imo. that can be a PART of critical analysis but it's not the end-all-be-all; there's a time and a place, yknow?).

so it just causes a lot of unnecessary vitriol because people feel entitled to be like "how could you like [x character] from this nationalistic manga about morally fucked up ninjas who murder people bc they're indoctrinated by a morally fucked up system??? don't you know [x character] is morally fucked up and has literally murdered people????" and often this is closely followed by "you should instead appreciate MY favorite character, [character who has ALSO done some seriously fucked up shit which went unquestioned by the narrative]"

and like, it should be obvious from glancing at my blog that i can be a bit of a hater towards characters i don't like. i have my own biases! but just bc i dont like j*raiya, for instance, doesn't mean i'm gonna make a post implying that liking him means you, yourself, are sexist, or don't care about the real-life misogyny and SA.

idk. this is a really common problem in fandom in general, but it feels particularly bad in naruto sometimes, and i think that's probably partially because it's such a huge series with so many fucked up things about its writing (see: treating genuine SA from j*raiya as a hilarious joke, or treating hyuga clan slavery as something that can just be papered over by ~treating the branch family nicer~, or going to Great Lengths to establish that the shinobi system is deeply fucked up and immoral and needs to be changed only for naruto to become hokage and change Literally Nothing). so like, you're hard pressed to find characters who haven't done something fucked up which the narrative condones. which can feel very frustrating!!!

that frustration is valid!!! and ranting about specific moments or characters that bug you most of all is very valid!!!! but please don't feel the need to take that out directly on other fans. whether that be by, again, implying that ppl who like the characters are stupid or immoral, or by getting personally offended when you see other ppl who like characters you hate/dislike characters you love

(be like me instead and make your own rant post complaining about this phenomenon rather than replying to annoying rant posts in your fav's tags lmao)

[correctingstupidbitch]

This is your reminder that if you claim to be a Neji fan yet deny Neji being abused and exploited by hinata,you are a dumb fuck.

hinata is the same slave owner hiashi is and is equally guilty and responsible for Neji’s sufferings.

one doodle for you,,,

[nejiwasalwaysright]

hinata fans: hiashi already said that there is no more slavery in Hyuga clan! Stop lying!

Also hinata fans: hiashi is a horrible person,he abuses hinata!

What 🤡 hinata fans are.

So,”hiashi is a horrible person who abuses hinata” but “hiashi said that side and main branch are equal and we can trust him 100%”…

These bitches aren’t even hearing themselves.

[lira456]

Hypocrisy of Naruto's Author

One think disgusting about Sasuke Shinden Sunrise novel was author tried to teach Sasuke about Uchiha clan past feud with Chinoike clan to make him understand nature of the war and finding comparison with Uchiha-Senju led Konoha feud but isn't it hypocritical for author to not teach Naruto's next generation about Konoha's dark past to find and compare the nature of war among shinobi, clans, villages, countries etc. bc in Shikimaru Shinden novel there was a war almost near at door, so why it's okay for author to teach Sasuke about some dark past of Uchiha clan but not okay for author to teach the dark past of Konoha regarding Uchiha slaughter and persecution, hyuga slavery, child soldiers tragedy, invasion of Amegakure etc., so why not? It is full of hypocrisy from author to make Sasuke aware about the nature of war but not Konoha's next generation or other residents such as Asuma's daughter, Boruto, Sarada, Shikedai, Konohamaru etc. about the nature of the war even though there was almost a 5th Great Shinobi War in Boruto's timeline of Shikimaru Shinden?