#httyd 3 theory

[noctusfury]

Did Astrid Inherit Stoick's Axe? (HTTYD 3 Theory)

Hello, everyone! Today we'll dive into another HTTYD 3 topic that's been on my mind for a while now.

It's after I saw this ax.

Like, this seriously surprised me when I first watched this. I was already used to her usual ax, so I thought it'd just be her ax ��� a gift from Hiccup after losing her other one at the end of RTTE — that she normally fights with, like here. 👇🏻

In the beginning, when the Riders go for one of their many raids to free dragons, we see Astrid fighting with her normal ax.

But in much of the film, we see her using the ax that suspiciously looks like Stoick's ax.

At first, I had thought she was using Hunter axes, but she's been using that ax throughout her fights with the remnants of Drago's minions.

Another example is the scene down below, during their final battle against their foes, we see Astrid with that ax again.

This is seriously making me think that this is Stoick's ax that she inherited, having switched her old ax for his! 👀 Which would be so cool and so touchingly wholesome. 😭

Of course, another option is that she just has another ax on standby made in likeness of Stoick's ax thanks to Gobber. 🤷‍♂️

But I actually really like the idea of Astrid inheriting the ax of her father-in-law. I think it's super wholesome. 🥰😭

What do you guys think? Do you find the theory plausible?

Long Live the Night!

— Noctus Fury

[companion-of-the-dragonmark]

Is the Light Fury Based on a Book Character(s)? (HTTYD 3)

Warning: Spoilers for those who either haven't read the books or having read books 10-12.

Greetings and well met, my fellow Dragonmarkers!

Today is the start of ONE of my new article series that I promised to start working on for you guys!

Today's first topic will be diving into the possibility on whether or not the Light Fury is based loosely on a book character as well.

Now, as you guys know, my opinion of the Light Fury is a little on the low side since the trailer. Not only because I've seen Light Furies since the first film came out (thank you, fanfiction and fanart 2010 and up), but also because of the obvious sexual dimorphism that they've created between Toothless and the Light Fury that you never see in other dragon species — which, in my opinion, is a bit of an insult. And her feminine-like physicality and seemingly OP skills.

DreamWorks, be honest, you took this character from the fanbase, didn't you? 😒😑

Would it have killed them to give us another Night Fury? 😭

But, to save time and to prevent you from listening to old rants and explanations from previous articles, I'm moving on.

There's been several theories and headcanons that I've been voicing as to explain her appearance physically and canonly-speaking in the past, but most of them have been shot down by metaphorical bola-launchers manned by Hiccups in the form of Dreamworks. Thank you, Dreamworks! (Notice the sarcasm)

However, recently, I've been re-reading the books and I've noticed something peculiar that never struck me before.

What if the Light Fury isn't as random as I had thought? That she isn't just something that Dreamworks implemented from the fandom in order to please the fans or created for the sole purpose of being Toothless's mate? What if she was inspired — as many HTTYD characters are — from the books?

The reason why I suddenly was struck by this though was by what Dean DeBlois stated: "That we will be basing a lot of the third part of Hiccup's story on the last book of the series: Book 12," to paraphrase heavily here.

He said that they'll be basing the third film to be loyal to the twelfth and final book of the series: How to Fight a Dragon's Fury. (Which, by the way, wasn't really the case.)

So, if this is true, then is the Light Fury a possible nod to the books? That's what we're here to hopefully find out. 

Two Possible Influences:

There are two dragon characters that the Light Fury could possibly be inspired by: 

The Silver Phantom — a powerful dragon species that shows up in books 10-12 (as well as the Complete Book of Dragons)

And Luna, a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus who's Furious's second-in-command and eventually Ruler of the dragons when a dying Furious names her as his successor and leaves for the Great Ocean (the author left it open-ended for the reader to decide whether he lives or not).

These two are not only female dragons, but dragons that are closest to what could've inspired the Light Fury that I could find.

I'm going to begin by discussing the Silver Phantom and the Light Fury and their similarities and differences. Then I'll do Luna and the Light Fury.

Now, please keep in mind that these upcoming reasons of the possibilities of the Light Fury sharing inspiration from one or both of these dragons are pure speculation, hypotheses, guesswork, and assumptions. So please take these words with a grain of salt.

If you think that I am wrong at any points or to improve any points, please let me know. I don't claim to have or know all the answers or that everything that comes out of my mouth is 110% accurate. I'm just making speculative reasonings and theories to try to better understand certain characters out of my love for this fandom.

So on to the Silver Phantom!

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Similarities Between the Light Fury and the Silver Phantom:

The Silver Phantom is first mentioned in Book 10: "How to Seize a Dragon's Jewel", where it's waiting for Hiccup and his dragons in ambush. We find out later that it's the Riding Dragon of Valhallarama, Hiccup's questing mother. It's nameless and doesn't talk (similar to Humungous Hotshot's dragon in book 5: "How to Twist a Dragon's Tale"), unlike other Riding Dragons. Though, I'm sure that's because of irrelevance to the plot of the story.

The stats on the picture say 7 for Size and 8 for Disobedience, though in the stats in the 10th book for the Silver Phantom, it says that all of its categories are a 10. I'm not sure how to account for this, on whether or not if this is a mistake. Or if it's dependent on gender. However, the 10th book was published in 2012, while The Complete Book of Dragons was published somewhere between 2013-2014, so I'm guessing that Cressida changed the stats a bit?

So here are some possible reasons as to why the Silver Phantom and the Light Fury might be similar and why the latter could be loosely-inspired by the former.

1) Both dragons seem to have similar colored scales.

Both dragons seem to have scales of a silvery-white hue, as both of them are sparkly and glowing. 

In page 23 of Chapter 1 in Book 10, it says: 

"Even though it was in the dead of night, every silver scale was lit up and shone brighter than was strictly possible in real life. The Silver Phantom seemed to give off its own light, like the moon.  "Its scream was so high and so loud that Hiccup felt as if it were setting fire to his ears. And as the dragon screamed, it poured out a jet of bright blue flames that blasted the trees in front of it, burning the leaves as bright as green stars before they dropped to the ground in powdery black smithereens."

The Light Fury seems to glow in a similar way, though her scales seem to be nonexistent and more reflective than the Silver Phantom's. Now, the Light Fury doesn't breathe blue/purple flame (the film seems to show that she breathes a regular plasma blast with the normal color of fire, not a bluish-white color), but Toothless does. So I believe that the Fury family could easily be based on this particular dragon, as they can fly in high altitudes, and (the Night Furies, at least) can breathe blue/purple flame, and are the fastest in the dragon world in the movie franchise.

2) Both dragons seem to be rare.

It's described in page 1 of Chapter 1 as being "an Air Dragon of the purest silver — very, very rare and very, very dangerous."  

In Book 10 and in The Complete Book of Dragons, Hiccup says that the Silver Phantom is a very rare dragon. However, in the latter book, it shows Hiccup the First, the second and third Hiccups' ancestor, riding on the back of a female Silver Phantom—which according to Hiccup the Third is very rare. So I'm not sure if Cressida is saying that the Silver Phantom as a species is very rare, or just the females. Or maybe because there are few females, that the Phantoms as a species can't reproduce as quickly and so their numbers were dwindling.

Or maybe during the previous two Hiccups' times, they weren't so rare, but they're rare now in Hiccup the Third's time?

Regardless of the reason, they're a rare species of dragon, and a Viking who has this dragon as its Riding Dragon would definitely be getting a big rise in social status. Valhallarama is the only known Viking in the series to ride a Silver Phantom as their riding dragon. There's also Hiccup the First, but it's not known whether the female Silver Phantom he's riding was allowing him to ride her for a temporary period, or if she was another riding dragon for him. There's no mention in the series of anyone having more than one Riding Dragon. Many Vikings are known to have more than one Hunting Dragon—or just more than one dragon in general—but there's no evidence of any Vikings having more than one Riding Dragon. Wodensfang said in Book 9 that he was Hiccup the First's blood brother and Riding Dragon. So, because of the lack of evidence of Vikings having more than one Riding Dragon, I'm assuming that's because you can only have one at a time, while you can have multiple Hunting Dragons.

Now, concerning the Light Fury, Dean DeBlois has said that "she is not the last of her kind," when talking about the Light Fury. However, you can take that with a grain of salt. For one thing, he says, "not the last of her kind." It doesn't say that they're not rare or endangered, nor does it say that female Light Furies aren't rare. However, I can't say with 110% certainty because neither the movie nor the behind-the-scenes vids have come out to prove this, nor is there any certainty of there being any concrete information in the film even if it does come out. Informative, and quite possibly visual, evidence on Light Furies and Night Furies will probably be scant if at all existent.  

3) Both dragons seem to be super fast.

In pages 32-33, it speaks of the Silver Phantom's speed: 

"Over the past year they had often eluded dragon pursuers by climbing up into the higher air, too high for the other dragons to follow. Most dragons prefer shallow air, the air nearest the ground. Very few can operate in the higher atmosphere. "Apart from the Silver Phantom. ". . . The Phantom was an Air Dragon. They were among the best flyers in the dragon world, and they flew the fastest and the highest."

In Page 307 of Chapter 27, the Phantom's speed is confirmed and the dragon is said to be "the fastest riding dragon in open skies."  

Now, since she's part of the Fury family of Dragons, I'm assuming that she's really fast—as fast as Toothless if not more so (which might be the latter since he's encumbered with flight equipment, while she doesn't have such encumberments). 

The Fury family of Dragons seem to be the fastest dragons in the dragon world, as Hiccup and Dreamworks have stated several times, and is mentioned in the book of dragons. Which makes me not help but wonder if the Night Furies weren't somewhat inspired by the Silver Phantom species.

Now, again, these are just speculative hypotheses at the moment, and probably won't ever be proven.

Now, on to Luna!

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Similarities Between the Light Fury and Luna the Sea-Dragon:

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Luna, Second-in-Command of Furious, King of the Dragons:

Now, this latter character is who I personally believe that the Light Fury is based on, in my opinion. I'll explain as I go along.

1) Both dragons are of the same species as their respective Toothlesses.

In the 12th Book: "How to Fight a Dragon's Fury", Luna is described in Page 76 of Chapter 4 as "a luminously beautiful Sea-Dragon slightly smaller than himself (Furious), known as Luna." 

In the books, "Sea-Dragon" is a term often used to describe the Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus (due to the first part of their species' scientific name, I think), a massive Sea-Dragon species that are arguably the most dangerous dragons known in the dragon world. That, and they're also quite possibly the largest dragons in the dragon world—hence why Furious is King of the Dragons. Size and ferocity are very important for an Alpha, in a similar aspect to lions and wolves, etc. 

Anyway, it's been revealed in Book 11: "How to Betray a Dragon's Hero", that Toothless is a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus, and NOT a Common or Garden Dragon, making him akin to other SGMs such as Wodensfang, Furious, Luna, Merciless/Green Death, and Purple Death (Book 1).

Meanwhile, the Light Fury, while not a Night Fury, is of the same family as the latter and are very close cousins. And since both the Light Fury and Toothless are Furies, and Toothless is loosely inspired from the Book!Toothless, who is a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus (or a Sea-Dragon) like Luna, it makes sense that the Light Fury might be based on Luna, however slightly. 

2) Both dragons have glowing white scales.

In the same page and the same chapter, the narrator (Hiccup) further describes Luna as such: "She was so-called because she glowed with light like the moon. She lit up the dark storm clouds all around, and waves of heat pulsed out of her, so that the rain smoked and hissed when it landed on her shining body."

Now the Light Fury doesn't have glowing scales; her scales are more sparkly or glittery than anything. But in certain environments under certain exposure of light in a particular angle, it does look like that her scales are glowing in a sense. Unlike Luna, the Light Fury seems to copy the Deadly Shadow's and the Changewing's cloaking abilities, though in a smaller and more temporary sense, and having to use her plasma blasts to activate it.

3) Both dragons become rulers.

In Pages 415 and 421 on Chapter 26, Furious gives his Alpha-ship to Luna before he swims away into the Great Ocean, either awaiting death or even surviving the venomous injury he acquired from the Witch. And Luna then becomes the new Alpha of the Dragons and rules the Dragons for the rest of her days (which are very long indeed, even well past the end of the series.)

Now, here's my theory and headcanon for the third film concerning the Light Fury: That the Light Fury either 1) is Alpha of her own thunder (term for flock of dragons) as Toothless is when they find her and somehow got separated, 2) she'll become co-Alpha when she becomes Toothless's mate, or 3) Toothless, like Furious, ends up giving his Alpha-ship to another—namely the Light Fury—so that he can stay with Hiccup.

What do you guys think? Which do you think is plausible?

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Conclusion:

So that's my thoughts about the Light Fury. What do you guys think? Think that any of this is plausible? Do you think that she might be inspired by the Silver Phantom or Luna or a little bit of both? Anything that I got wrong and needs correcting? What are your thoughts on this?

(Personally, I still think that the Light Fury is a fanbase add-on by DreamWorks.)

Again, this is just a theory since I can't prove any of this. So if you have any thoughts you'd like to give me to prove or disprove this or to add to this that I didn't think of, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks again for your time and for reading this, as well as any comments that you might post. I appreciate the feedback and support!

If you guys have anyone specific you'd like me to write an article about in this comparison series, let me know.

Long Live the Wilderwest!

— Companion of the Dragonmark

[astridhoff03]

The httyd-live action

I know Dean DeBlois will do again a good job as Director, as he did with the original animated trilogy. But I think I will not watch it, maybe I could change my mind but I don’t think so. I just didn’t need it in the first place and I still don’t understand why it’s necessary. It feels for me personally as Universal just wants to milk out such a fantastic franchise, that didn’t need a Remake to begin with. I rather watch JW: Chaos Theory, Flow or the Wild Robot again. I don’t know something about the thought that httyd will get a remake doesn’t stick with me that much. Just something about it feels horribly wrong and I am honestly a bit afraid that the original trilogy will be not so much respected anymore if they do a live action adaptation. Httyd is great as it is and doesn’t need something that is remaking it. The last time I was this angry when they released the nine realms and it was in too many ways disrespectful to the original trilogy. Also another reason why I httyd doesn’t need a live action remake is because httyd has already really good animation, so good, it even looks in some scenes like live action. Hell, httyd is famous for this art style, it was nominated for four Oscars if you include the soundtrack. It’s one of the best trilogies ever made and a Masterpiece of Storytelling.

I know some people like the idea of a series setting within in the second and third movie. I personally also don’t need that either. I kind of like the idea but I think it has to be written and directed by the two guys who produced Chaos Theory and Camp Cretaceous. We have to give them credit, they brought back the Jurassic Park feeling in Jurassic World something Colin Treverrow failed to do, even if it his trilogy is good. And really scored with it in Chaos Theory. I honestly would really enjoy a series that would fit more to the tone of chaos theory, I would even say it would be better than Rtte and Riders/Defenders together.

[littlekirpichi]

the round table from httyd 1 was replaced by a regular one in httyd 3

like, Stoick's rule was depicted to be more democratic in nature than Hiccup's, more like in Athens or Novgorod. Hiccup on the other hand is shown to hold council only with those few chosen ones and then just announce everything to his subjects. yes, subjects, because here we can see an early form of monarchy. i don't know what motivated them to evolve their political status. maybe, the sheer amount of people and dragons, that would be nearly impossible to manage with the older form of government. who knows.

but just imagine what crisis is waiting for them. they still all dine in the main hall, as if they are still equal - but they're not. the chief is further and further away from the Hooligans, and they notice that, but he's still treated like equal - which he isn't. it's like witnessing a transition of Roman republic to Roman empire (a bit of a stretch, but you get my point)

[simple-study-of-story]

[hotshot624]

Okay I completely agree with everything you said about the movie,it was literally just a cash grab which really sucks, but I have to disagree with you when you said that Berk was overpopulated and here's why

Okay so I think we can all agree that Berk if HUGE. Everyone seems to forget the back part of Berk where no vikings are because it's rarely shown and they only remember the front of the island because that's where all the action usually is and that's usually where the movies/shows focus on. But like I was saying the whole of Berk is really big and because of this, it's able to hold a bunch of different dragons. In Riders and Defenders of Berk, we see a few different dragons species as well as the original dragons from the first movie. But their aren't that many of them. This is most likely because the vikings hunted and killed any of the dragons they found, leaving there numbers pretty thin. Their were also most likely some dragons that killed other dragons, either because they wanted to eat them or because they were territorial or something else. But when Hiccup and Toothless joined together as well as the other riders, they stopped vikings from killing the dragons. We also know that they stopped other dragons from killing each other. This would let the dragons of Berk be able to up there numbers by a great amount now that they're under the protection of the gang. I mean most of the common dragons lay a bunch of eggs once a year I think (I don't actually know if that's true and please correct if it isn't) so you can imagine how many dragons that would be in like 6 years. And since they're protected, either they'd bring their young to live on Berk when they were old enough to fly, or they would just lay there eggs there since they'd have everything they'd need. We also know that they sometimes bring dragons that they freed to Berk so they can protect them better than they could if they placed them on a different island or just because they don't have a home anymore (we mainly see them bring back rescued dragons in THW but I they've done it in the shows like ones or twice). This relocation brings me to another reason it's so crowded. At the end of HTTYD 2, Valka's dragons no longer have a home because they no longer have the bewilderbeast to protect them and there home was destroyed. Those dragons relied on the bewilderbeast for a home, food, and protection, something they didn't have anymore since they're alpha was killed. So either the gang let those defenseless dragons stay at their home or they just stayed because Toothless was now the alpha, and they go where he goes. I also think that since other dragons knew Toothless was the alpha, they'd go stay with him if they saw him or met him. The final reason I think it's so crowded is because of what's at the village part of Berk. In the 2nd and 3rd movie we can see feeding stations, towers for them to rest on, grooming stations, and more. All of these things are things that any dragon would dream of. So why would they all want to stay at the back of Berk where they'd have to hunt their own food, or where the least amount of protection available would be? And I'm sure their are a bunch of dragons, who don't trust humans, at the back part of Berk but most of the dragon population there would be at the front making all of Berk look crowded and chaotic. Idk these were just my thoughts. Also I just want to make it clear that I am absolutely NOT shitting on your opinion, I just wanted to say what I thought the reason was for the overpopulation. Sorry this was so long tho

I hate how Httyd 3 is just like bad fanfiction. Everything is ooc where do I even start? Toothless playing stupid games with grimmel when it would’ve taken one shot to annihilate the old man. Toothless not absolutely destroying the light fury the second she shot at Hiccup. The dragon riders just letting the mind-controlled deathgrippers get crushed and electrocuted when all they had to do is take the tube off of them and bam new dragons on their side. Why exactly is Berk overpopulated??? What happened to dragon island??? What happened to all the other islands Hiccup has on his map??? What happened to the giant mountain of empty space that they just aren’t using??? You’re telling me not ONE of those places can house the dragons??? Where exactly are their allies? I get that they weren’t there in the second movie because rtte didn’t exist yet but why not now? The third movie was supposed to be more for the ppl who have been in this fandom for years so why not give them their allies from the series? I’m just mad, this wasn’t what we wanted nor what we deserved.

[cupcake-hearts]

The Dragons from HTTYD were already trained!

(Just a theory...)

In the first movie, Gobber states that 'dragons will always go for the kill', which is debatable because of the bias against dragons, but also because we see the dragons in the training arena NOT go for the kill' several times.

1- Meatlug- while yes she was shooting lava blasts at the kids, but all of her shots hit their shields. Especially when Fishlegs raised his shield above his head, she could have definitely hit him if she wanted to. And finally when she had Hiccup pinned against the wall, she paused. Granted it could be the director making the moment dramatic, but the only in universe explanation would be that she didn't want to hit him, and could hear Gobber coming to Hiccup's rescue. And speaking of Gobber, you're going to tell me that she didn't even take a shot at the one person in the arena with no shield?

2- Stormfly- this girl honestly looks like she's having a good time. Again she's taking very close shots, but she also doesn't seem to be taking it seriously. She even takes a moment to laugh at Snotlout's bad throw.

3- Barf and Belch- these two (one?) didn't even attack with teeth or claws. They let out some gas and sparks, but never actually ignited it. The only aggression they showed was knocking the kids down and getting scared of the eel.

4- the terrible terror was just a menace, but hey, tiny is allowed to be angry.

Point is, none of these dragons 'went for the kill' but why? And how does this tie into them being already "trained"?

We don't know how long those 4 were held captive. Had they been there for years? Had they seen/heard what happens when a dragon does maul a teenager to death? Training to fight dragons is dangerous, but you can't expect a Viking parent just to let the dragon that killed their kid live.

So the dragons were subconsciously trained.

Fight, act aggressive, but don't kill or you will be killed. Give the kids enough practice and the rest of the time you'll be left alone.

[bisexuallsokka]

jo. bestie. hi. i’m holding your hands and asking u to please if u want deal us all permanent psychic damage with “you’re just as beautiful as the day i lost you” (the httyd divorced zukka agenda has to continue and nobody can do it as well as u <3)

Sokka had spent the entire journey to the Fire Nation imagining himself being so overwhelmed with emotion at the sight of Zuko that, decorum be damned, he would run into his arms as soon as they made eye contact.

The sting of disappointment he felt when he realized that Zuko wasn't even there to greet him and Katara was enough to extinguish most of the excitement he had felt and make him second-guess everything about this trip. It was odd enough that after over a decade of being broken up they had rekindled their relationship over letters, what would it be like when they saw each other in person for the first time in years? Did they only know how to be in love again in theory? Was Zuko truly ready to leave the throne and his home in a few months and start a life with Sokka?

He's hiding out on some balcony that the two of them frequented in his Ambassador days, and he jumps when he hears the door open behind him. It's probably Katara telling him to stop moping, and he's about to tell her that he just needs a minute when he sees Zuko there, giving him a tentative smile.

"Hey," he says.

"Hi," Sokka says, the corner of his mouth twitching in amusement.

"Sorry about," Zuko gestures, and Sokka knows what he means.

"I get it. You're a busy guy," Sokka says.

That makes Zuko frown, and he walks over and takes a seat on the bench next to him. "Not too busy for you," he says. Which, historically, is kind of a lie, but Sokka appreciates the sentiment all the same. Especially since soon, they won't have to worry about the Fire Lord nonsense ever again.

Zuko seems to be thinking the same thing. "For what it's worth, it wasn't 'official business' keeping me away again," he clarifies. "Izumi was getting a little overwhelmed with everything going on to get ready for the party, and I spent longer in the garden with her than I realized. She's with Uncle, now."

Sokka softens at that, his doubts slowly starting to fade away. "That's understandable."

"Thanks for coming all the way here," Zuko says quickly. "It means a lot and it...it's really good to see you."

The sincerity in his tone is a little overwhelming. "Wouldn't miss it for the world," Sokka says, despite having missed the last ten or so of Zuko's birthday celebrations.

It makes Zuko smile, though, which Sokka relaxes at the sight of.

"You look good," Sokka says, smiling back.

"You look..." Zuko trails off, a strange expression on his face as he just keeps staring at Sokka.

"What?" Sokka asks suspiciously. "Is there something on my face?"

"You're just as beautiful as the day I lost you," Zuko says, so softly Sokka might have missed it had he not been hanging onto every word from those lips.

"I..." Sokka says, feeling speechless for once as heat rises in his cheeks. "That's...great, thank you."

As soon as the words leave his mouth he groans, putting his head in his hands as Zuko laughs loudly at him.

"You can't just say things like that," Sokka complains, even if he can't stop smiling.

"I can and I will, especially if that is the kind of reaction I can expect," Zuko teases. Sokka looks over at him and feels his cheeks flushing again at the soft look on Zuko's face.

Sokka takes a shaky breath, calling upon every ounce of bravery he's ever possessed to help him reach for Zuko's hand. "Twelve years?" he asks, giving it a squeeze.

"Twelve years," Zuko confirms, squeezing back. “It’s not that I haven’t seen you that whole time. I just…never let myself really look.”

Sokka nods. “You’re sure this is what you want?”

Zuko raises his eyebrow. "I've started packing."

Sokka rolls his eyes and shoves Zuko's shoulder with his own. "Oh, so romantic, run away with me just because you're already packing."

Zuko laughs again, and Sokka feels lightheaded. He's not going to get used to constantly hearing that sound anytime soon.

“I've had all this time to think about it, and my answer is still the same," Zuko tells him seriously. "This is best for the Fire Nation, best for us. Are you sure, though? Six year olds are pretty crazy.”

“Raising a kid with you?" Sokka asks. "That's all I've ever wanted. Craziness and all."

The way Zuko looks at Sokka erases any of the doubts, the questions, the worries Sokka had about this. About them. After the years of heartbreak and separation, Sokka knows that's behind them, and the future looks much brighter.

[lyraxoxo]

HTTYD BOOK X EPIC THE MUSICAL CROSSOVER PROJECT THEORY

Your friendly neighbourhood conspiracy theorist is back with a more in depth update. I made an update talking more about my theory in my original post in the comments, but I have decided to make it into it’s own post with some amendments and new updates.

There are 6 main blogs I will be talking about which will be referred to by the numbers 1 through 6 (sorry if this makes it confusing) (I am also changing numbering from the og comment).

My investigation started with 1 (an account I’ve been following for a while that posts a lot of httyd book related content) reblogging a post from 2 on the the 21st stating "Hello there tumblr, this is a side blog for a …… project." Based on the comments and reblogs, I was able to confirm another blog (3) as a part of this, and a potential other blog (4). The connection between these four blogs has been further proven through likes, replies, and reblogging each other’s content.

I suspected blog 5 previously due to the following connections to the other blogs and when the blog was created, but it wasn’t confirmed (in my opinion) until this blog reblogged my post which trigged multiple of the others to like/reblog from there (I may get more into this later).

My theory that it has something to do with epic the musical started with blog 6, which posts epic the musical content. I know this blog is associated through reblogs from the others, particularly from 1 (more on this later). 1, 4, and 6 also all have tiktok accounts by the same username which are all connected, further building the connection.

The description of 2 also says, Making your dragons more EPIC since 2024, leading me to further believe that it has something to do with epic the musical. 3 has also been recently reblogging a lot of epic content, including tagging 6 in one of them.

One of the strongest pieces of evidence has come from 1 responding to one of 6’s posts with “One of my favourites is how Suffering is referenced throughout the Thunder Saga - starting with “I will take the suffering from you,” to the FURIOUS “we won’t take more suffering from you,” to the time in EXILE: “how much longer must I suffer now?” To “let me take the suffering from you,” as a different form of “siren song”.” Which for those of you who know httyd, will understand the references being made here, proving the connection between httyd and epic the musical.

In terms of what I think this project is going to be, there is not a lot of evidence towards what it actually is yet, but these are some guesses based on circumstantial evidence. There is probable potential for animatics, knowing that 1 (and 4 to some extent) is an artist, and animatics would be a fitting way to combine httyd and epic. This one is entirely speculation but there may be lyric rewrites to fit the characters in httyd (maybe record as wel idk), based on the mentions of music theory in some of the posts.

I know the people a part of this are watching everything I do. they. are. watching. I’m looking forward to the project ❤️

[espithewarlock]

For anyone who might be hesitant on fantasy AUs within fanfiction, I encourage you to give it a try! It's just our favorite boys falling in love again, but there might be magic or dragons (or both!) involved.

Really, fantasy is a story that's in a setting that allows your imagination to run wild. It breaks norms of reality and adds possibilities. Underneath it all is a familiar story of love and finding each other.

If you need some places to start, under the cut is a bunch of my favorite Piarles fantasy fics:

every broken piece of me (belongs to you) by @your-littlesecret (Explicit | 45k) - Jully's Fae!Pierre. An absolute marvel of worldbuilding. I adore this interpretation of the world of the Fae and the courts and everything in between. The details are gorgeous and the slow build of the relationship is so delicious. And there's a dragon. (It's Jully...of course there's a dragon!)

you are perfection, my only direction (it's fire on fire) by @singsweetmelodies (Explicit | 40k) - Katie's dragon riders AU! This fic is the epitome of we're-both-in-love-with-each-other-but-too-scared-to-admit-it. Arranged marriage and politics and they're both pining for each other the whole time while flying on their dragons. It's beautiful and hot and features meddlesome Sewis which I adore.

and it's coming closer by @wolfiemcwolferson (Explicit | 84k) - Logan's Werewolfierre fic! (what the fuck, it's 84k???) It's Logan, so nobody gets to be surprised when there's themes of loss and grief and found family here. It's one of those fics where the audience knows exactly what's happening and seeing Charles come to a slow understanding is beautifully done.

dragonheart by @duquesademiel (General | 2.1k) - sol's little bite-sized glimpse into an Eragon!AU. This fic captures so much worldbuilding and setup and establishing relationships in 2k words and I am eagerly camped out for the day when sol wants to add more to this universe.

hold your hand in mine (starlights in your eyes) by @your-littlesecret (Mature | 20k) - Jully's How To Train Your Dragon AU! It's so sweet and there's action and shenanigans and I am just a sucker for anything HTTYD. Honestly? Dragons. Need I say more??

miles away from places you have been by @wolfiemcwolferson (Explicit | 36k) - Logan's Vampierre! The air of mystery in this fic is incredible. Logan manages to capture that feeling of something being off and when it hits, it hits HARD. There's angst, there's tragedy, there's hope, and there's love. (And magic and vampires.)

e forse il mare è dentro di lui by @duquesademiel (Teen | 24k) - If the ocean was a character. There's magic and mystery and it's stunning how everything comes together. I love all the characters and how relentless Charles is in attempting to figure out what the fuck is happening on this island.

(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

And, this is my blog, so I'm allowed to self-rec my own fantasy:

By the Grace of Magic and Flames (Teen | 54k) - The collab Jully and I wrote in 3 weeks. Dragon Rider!Charles and Witch!Pierre. Featuring sassy familiars and learning magic and so much pining. We honestly went insane over this and it's incredible.

A Nymph's Heart (Series | Teen | 46k) - My Nymph!Pierre & Violinist!Charles series. A small glade in the woods provides an excellent spot for Charles to practice his music, and there's an intriguing magical creature that lives there. They go to the Feywild in Part 2 and the way that magic works there is some of my best & favorite worldbuilding.

Bittersweet, That Glitter (Teen | 23k) - Dragon!Pierre & Potions Apprentice!Charles. Pierre is a shape-shifting dragon who finds his soulmate in a tiny village. Charles convinces him to stay and teach him magic and potions brewing, all while Pierre is trying to conceal his true identity as a dragon. I spent way too much time on potions brewing theory and I want to live in this world.

Our Love Is Not Illusion Based (Teen | 3k) - Another little bite-sized piece of magic where Pierre is a witch and Charles refuses to leave his side despite the stigma against witches. It's sweet with just a touch of angst and I'm so happy with how much I managed to pack into a short fic here.

The Boy With the Storm-Colored Eyes (Teen | 31k) - Mermaid!Charles!!! This is the first fic I ever posted to AO3/F1 RPF and it holds such a special place in my heart. I love naϊve Charles as a mermaid and surfer/scientist Pierre who is immediately besotted. The action and the drama is so good and the resolution is somehow angstier? I love this world and I love how they're drawn to each other despite everything in the way.

[noctusfury]

The Mystery Behind Astrid's Wolf-Pelt Cloak (HTTYD 3)

Hello, my fellow Furians! Welcome to another HTTYD article! This is one of my older ideas, but again, I just plumb forgot and it was just left sitting there collecting dust. 😅

Today, I want to talk to you about a realization and possible revelation that just has me in fits of excitement! When I watched the end of HTTYD 3 with Hiccstrid's wedding and their cloaks, I never thought much about it. However, when I watched the RTTE Season 2's 4th episode "Bad Moon Rising," I suddenly connected the two dots.

Take a look!

I paused and thought about it for a bit, and then I realized that... wait, wolf. Wolf pelt. A pelt that comes from a wolf. Wait... did the wolf pelt come from THIS wolf?! 😲🤯

I mean, it could be possible, right?

I could totally see Snotlout killing the wolf and gaining a nice pelt from it for his troubles, and then 3 or so years later, when Hiccstrid have their wedding, he gifts it to Astrid as a wedding gift. Or maybe he gifts it to her as a reconciliation gift after having stepped on her wrath one too many times. 😅 Such a time could've been after Season 5's episode "Snotlout's Angels."

Of course, this could just all be an uncanny coincidence, and this is a completely different pelt that had absolutely nothing to do with Snotlout's wolf, and that he either still has it, or Tuffnut has it as an apology gift for the... prank and making him think that he was turning into a Lycanwing.

But hey, I personally support this headcanon. What about you guys?

Let me know what you guys think! I'm always open to other interpretations. It's why theories and headcanons exist.

Thank you for reading this article! See you next time!

Long Live the Night!

— Noctus Fury

[an1d10t]

Facts about

✨Komodo dragons✨

It may surprise you, but Komodo dragons aren’t dragons. (Big surprise)

They’re only the biggest lizard that can grow up to 3 meters long (10ft), can weigh up to 70 kg, can run up to 20 kilometres per hour and can live up to 30 years. It takes them 8 to 9 years to fully mature, which is quite long for animals if you ask me.

They’re also highly venomous. They used to think that this was because of various bacteria in it’s mouth, but that theory was proven wrong by the University of Queensland. The people now say that their venom is similar to that of a snake.

They only/mostly eat meat. They kill their prey by biting down hard and shaking violently, ripping off flesh and muscles causing extreme blood loss and shock. They also have an excellent smell which comes in handy when hunting. They use their tongue to smell. They can smell a rotting prey from 4 kilometres (2.5 miles) away! Though their eyesight and hearing are less impressive.

They’re tail is (almost) as long as their body. They can also use their tail as weapon. (It’s strong enough to take down a deer!)

Komodo dragons use their tail to scare prey by swinging it around. They also use it she they are scared themself.

Fun fact, they can also swim! They have been spotted as far as miles off the shore! Why do I say shore? Because they only live on 5 Indonesian islands. One of these islands has been given the name ‘Komodo island’.

Some people are also saying that Komodo’s might originate from Australia. This is because they have found fossils of big lizards from 300.000 to 4 million years ago!

A fun facts is that Komodo dragons can produce asexually! The female Komodo dragons have both male and female sex chromosomes. If you want to research more about this, you can search up ‘parthenogenesis’ because that is what it was called.

Also, look at the little baby

Cute right?

Yea.

Another fun fact, (yes, there is more) they have shark like teeth! They have 60 teeth in total, tge most of all lizards and reptiles. Now, if you look at their mouth, you’ll probably not see them. This is because their gums are so thick. Don’t be fooled though! They definitely are there. Just think of it like toothless from httyd.

They are also very playful! They have been observed to play with shoes, shovels and frisbees. They also like to play tug of war.

And this was all! Have a nice day :D

[astridhoff03]

A TV-Show between httyd 2 and 3

I have honestly nothing against a series that’s based on the comics from Dean DeBlois and Richard Hamilton, we also would then finally get the fire tides, that plays again between two movies as long as if it doesn’t ruin the ending of the franchise and as long as they would put it on Netflix and not on Peacock. Because we all know what happened as they put their shows on peacock, they were doomed.

I also would take the producer of Chaos Theory take over the show. They have proven that they can really nail it without any issues in the lore and also a Httyd show in the tone of chaos theory would just be great, because it would also again appeal to the older fans of the franchise. I think if they would put the money, they invested in the live action in a new show it would be smarter. I think DeBlois will be faithful to the live action because he loves the httyd-trilogy as much as all the fans do, but still something about the thought of a live action feels wrong. Of course not everyone would be on board, I am myself skeptical as well. But if the people of Universal are so desperate to milk this unique, fantastic franchise then please do it right. So everyone would get something out of it.

[blogthebooklover]

Movie Recs In Honor of Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes

I decided to write out a list of movies to watch in honor of Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes coming out very soon. This list will feature movies with apes besides the POTA movies, or movies with weird and bizarre friendships/found families.

The Original Planet of the Apes Franchise (1968-1973, Amazon Prime)

Honestly, I've only watched the 1968 movie a handful of times. I decided to watch all of the original franchise leading up to the release of Kingdom. They're all a lot of fun, with social/political commentaries at the time of each film. If you're a movie collector, or like behind-the-scenes/director's commentaries, I highly recommend buying the Blu Ray compilation pack.

2. Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (2001, Disney+ or Amazon Prime)

I know, hear me out. Yes, it's over-hated, and yes, there was A LOT of potential for this movie. There were definitely too many "cooks in the kitchen" when drafting this movie. Imho, I think it's a guilty pleasure, popcorn movie. If you're a fan of makeup effects, Rick Baker (THE modern makeup effects master) does an absolutely phenomenal job with the designs of the apes in this movie (and check out his Instagram too). I do like the production and the ape costume designs for this film as well.

Tim Roth and Paul Giamatti are such a blast in this movie, too!

And the posters for this movie look so cool.

3. Planet of the Apes Reboot Trilogy (2011-2017, Amazon Prime)

I think this is what the 2001 movie should have been, and was trying to go for. While the three movies did make their money back at the box office, I have two theories why they almost went under everyone's radar (again, this is my opinion):

A. Because of the mixed reception from the 2001 movie.

B. Because of the abundance of comic book & remake movies coming out during the 2011-2017 years.

I put this trilogy right up with the Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. The storytelling is great, the special effects hold up well, and this reboot's version of Caesar has became one of my favorite main characters in modern film.

4. Mighty Joe Young (1998 remake, Disney+)

I don't know why this movie doesn't get talked about that much. Rick Baker, once again, does incredible work on the special effects for Joe. There's also a great musical score by James Horner. And Bill Paxton and Charlize Theron give amazing acting performances. And I think it's actually one of the better remakes that came out from the late 1990s.

In fact, the team that worked on the 1933 King Kong also made the 1949 film. Even Robert Armstrong (Carl Denham) came back for the '49 film. Ray Harryhausen worked under the supervision of Willis O'Brien for the special effects for the original movie. He also has a cameo appearance alongside Terry Moore (Jill Young) in a party scene.

Aaaaand I just found out the writers, Mark Rosenthal and Lawrence Konner, also did an uncredited rewrite for the 2001 POTA movie.

5. Tarzan (1999, Disney+)

Of course, who doesn't love Tarzan??? And Phil Collins's A.M.A.Z.I.N.G soundtrack???!!!

6. King Kong (1933, 2005, Amazon Prime/MAX)

Okay, technically it's a giant monster movie and the OG prior to Godzilla. And it also set the standard of film making overall. However, it is also a bit of a Beauty and the Beast story, hence the lines: "It was Beauty killed the Beast" and the "And the prophet said: And lo, the Beast looked upon the face of Beauty. And it stayed its hand from killing. And from that day forward, he was as one dead." I also recommend watching the extended cut of the 2005 remake.

7. Lilo & Stitch (2002, Disney+)

Again, who doesn't love Lilo and Stitch???

8. How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy (2010-2019, Amazon Prime/Peacock App)

Once again, who doesn’t love HTTYD (and why are they remaking it as a live action movie????)???

9. Gorillas in the Mist (1988, Amazon Prime)

This movie is about Dian Fossey (played by Sigourney Weaver), a primatologist who studied mountain gorillas and she was part of a trio of women who studied great apes; the amazing Jane Goodall and her study of chimpanzees, and Birute Galdikas who studies orangutans. The movie is also based on her book of the same name.

I use past tense for Dian, because she met a tragic and horrific death while she was conducting her research on gorillas. I have in-lined a link to Dian Fossey's Wikipedia article for further reading.

Rick Baker, once again, does some amazing practical creature effects work for the gorillas.

10. George of the Jungle (1997, Disney+)

One of my favorite Brendan Fraser movies, and such a fun, and a bit of a campy movie based on the cartoon series (which is also a spoof of Tarzan). I quote this movie every so often. Unfortunately, Rick Baker did not do the ape designs for this movie. The creature effects this time around was done by none other than the Jim Henson Creature Workshop!

[mouchiiarts]

So I have this wild theory about why DreamWorks changed the look of the characters so dramatically for HTTYD: THW. Idk how much water it holds but I'm curious what other people think.

I believe a major reason DreamWorks remade all of the character's models for HTTYD 3 could be due to some very strange copyright issues.

21st Century Fox was the distributor for HTTYD 2. Universal was the distributor for HTTYD: THW. I theorize that because Fox is now owned by Disney, and Universal became the distributor for all DreamWorks' movies, there could have been some odd gray zone with distribution copyright when using the models.

Universal, and by extension DreamWorks, legally could not use the models from the 2nd HTTYD film because of the difference in distributors. So, they had to change the characters enough to be distinguishable from their movie 2 counterparts. But they also needed them to be recognizable for the people watching the movie.

Again, no idea how true this could be since I don't work for either DreamWorks, Foxx, or Universal, but it's definitely an interesting theory to me.

[tindrasuniverse]

Hi! Lil introduction here.

My name is Tindra, and I am norwegian. I am a minor, and use she/her as pronouns.

Check out the best person alive (treat her good or I will brutally end you); @cupcakedoesthings <3

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I am in these fandoms;

The Rookie (biggest chenford supporter EVERRR)

SATSV

RDR2

Nimona

Arcane: League of Legends (violyn adorer)

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HTTYD

Wednesday (I dislike most off the fandom due to brainrot in the community, but some are fine)

TLOU (Haven't got the game, but really want to play it)

Life Is Strange (Same as TLOU)

Jurassic World

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My favourite artists are Imagine Dragons, Billie Eilish, TV Girl, Imogen Heap, Childish Gambino, Finneas, Linkin Park, and Evanescence!!

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I speak norwegian, english and spanish, and understand swedish and danish! So feel free to talk to me if you speak one off these languages and don't fully understand english, as I will understand<3

I am a person with alot off hobbies mainly around being an equestrian and an artist, plus a massive show-repeater 😎 I also want to start photography! If I ever get a camera, I will make another blog mainly focused around that.

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I will use #tindraspeptalks on my theory/other talking-themed posts, and other tags for the fandoms I'm in :)

Anyway, that's most I can come up with for now! Feel free to ask me questions :) I am also actively searching for new friends, ESPECIALLY cool norwegians 😎 But I honestly can befriend anyone, so don't be scared to talk, I don't bite. Feel free to send me a message xx