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dreki-fern · 25 days ago
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I also have good news for my MBTI type and enneagram which makes me actually impressed, shocked and I feel like I can know myself better despite all my issues I have within that.
Come to find out, I use Si pretty well or at least its one of my functions and i'm def a sensory which took a long time for me to understand, I do check off some things for intuition (we all have it to some degree) But I check more boxes off for sensor than I do intuition. I might be an ISFJ/ISTJ (or ESTJ/ESFJ) Which shocked me but makes a lot of sense! I'm happy to have finally figured things out!
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writteninlunarlight-years · 4 months ago
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@literallurker gave me this idea, and I wanted to share my headcanons on what I think everyone's MBTI is and why I believe that.
Charlie -ESFJ (Consul)
I mean, come on, this is so Charlie-coded. She loves helping people and putting a smile on their faces. She gets enjoyment and fulfillment from helping her people and those who lean on her the most. She is extroverted, in touch with her emotions, and in touch with others' emotions as well.
Vaggie -ISTJ (Logistician)
Vaggie respects how things should be run; look at how she reacts to Lucifer's appearance. She, however, is undeniably loyal and follows her heart when it comes to the one she cares about the most. She is quiet and reserved, only stepping up to the plate when it involves backing up Charlie.
Lucifer -ENTP (Debater)
Let's look at Lucifer's past, present, and seeming future. In the past, Lucifer questioned many things and wanted to know why and find out why things were how they were. Lucifer is a good leader when he is not depressed, he also shows pretty normal Extrovert traits he is just awkward cause he dedicated so much of his life to one person not the collective. We saw at the end of the show his true kingly and debater personality show where he agreed to help stick it to the angels and help Charlie.
Alastor - ESTP (Entrepreneur)
This man is a business tycoon, can we all agree? He has thousands of souls. He is a smooth talker and great at making deals. He has to be extroverted for that. On top of that, the only time we see this man dwell on his past is when he talks about his contract at the very end. Besides that, he is rooted in how he can benefit himself right here, right now. He also knows how to manipulate the situations he is in to benefit himself, something the Entrepreneur type is known for.
Angel Dust - INFP (Mediator)
Okay, hear me out, Angel is an actor; the Angel we see 90% of the time is not the real true him. When we see him in his raw form, he is really quiet and calm. He spoke of dreams and ideas he once had. Angel is forced to look extroverted when, in reality, he is the happiest in a small group of close people. He is happy making his friends happy. He loves helping even if he covers it up with his 'need' for sex and drugs.
Husk - INFJ (Advocate)
Okay, controversial, I know, but let me cook. Husk in the show fits this so well. He is compassionate towards Angel and the others, he is wanting to rebel against the contract system, he doesn't care about being powerful anymore now that he has lost all power. He is just a boy who loves his spider and friends. He has no issues helping Charlie the minute he finds out he was summoned for her, not Al.
Sir Pentious -INTP (Logician)
Man is socially awkward and inventing stuff left, right, and sideways. He is always curious to build the next best thing to make him the next powerful being. He never falters from his passion, either. He is passionate about the tasks he is given, which explains his displeasure in failing the Vees. Yet when Charlie gives him a new task, and he can excel at that, he is as happy as ever.
Niffty - ISTP (Virtuoso)
We have literally seen Niffty create the most horrid and cutest things out of her bugs. She is very attached to those she is close to, and she always has something going on in her mind. I think Niffty is a prime example of if it is in my head, I will be doing it, no questions asked.
Cherri Bomb - ENFP (Campaigner)
Cherri is the definition of a free spirit and a kind heart. She loves Angel deeply and would do anything to help cheer up her best friend. On top of that, she also has a no fucks filter and kicks ass to protect those she cares about. She is open and honest about her life style and her energy. Ready to take on the world one day at a time the best way she can.
Sera - INTJ (Architect)
Sera follows the rules and becomes the best she can be. She was given the directive of being the head angel and ran with it. She will do anything to keep her power and knowledge of the world. She is very smart and analytical when it comes to situations. Though she is in a powerful position, she is naturally introverted, often letting Emily take on more people-centric roles while she stands back and takes on more law and order roles.
Emily - ENTJ (Commander)
All right, this is more of what I just hope Emily becomes. In the span of minutes, we watched Emily completely turn her back on fellow Angels, all because she had learned what was really happening in hell. She would fight for the right cause and rally the troops for it. She is an energetic and open character who fights for what she believes is right. Seeing Pentious get redeemed, you bet she will be fighting for Charlie's plans.
Lute - ISFJ (Defender)
Okay, another may be controversial, but let me cook, please. Lute is super caring and concerned for her people, whether that is Adam, the exorcists, or angels as a whole. Yes, she looks like a big bad villain in the show because, well, she is. However, step into Lutes' shoes, and she is just trying to protect the peace of her people and family.
Adam - ENFJ (Protagonist)
He is another person who hear me out please needs to be looked at from his perspective. Adam is, by all means, the main protagonist in the Bible and in the world of heaven. He does what he believes is right and fights for what he believes is right. Even if he is an asshole, look at him from a different perspective than just through the eyes of Charlie, our narrator, through Hazbin Hotel. Adam believes his greatest purpose in life is to be the first man everyone has to look up to.
Vox -ESFP (Entertainer)
I mean, this is like writing itself; Vox is charismatic, has silver tongues, and is good with people. He can use his voice and charisma to woo people, and only then, if that fails, does he use his hypnotic powers. Vox enjoys entertaining by playing many roles in all his shows and assisting Vel and Val in any issue that seems to come up.
Valentino - ESTJ (Executive)
Hear me out, let me cook; we learn in should have stayed gone that Vox is pretty much powerless without the other Vee. It is also alluded to a few times that Val has been there the longest out of all the Vees. To be in the position of power Val is in, he needs to be an extrovert and have a way with words to lure people in. You may be thinking, but how does this tie into the executive role. I ask you to take a step back, like with the angels, and look at Val from the perspective of the Vees, not from Charlie and the narrators. He is set in his ways, expects perfection from his soul, and utilizes his power position as a form of mentorship for Vox and Vel so they can gain more notoriety.
Velvette - ISFP (Adventurer)
But she is a famous designer and sinstagram star. Yeah, and do you know how many influencers and social media people are actually introverts but come off as extroverted cause they are talking to a camera, not people directly. She is also suuuuper creative, and many fashion designers, just like other artists, have a hard time relating to people face to face and prefer to talk through their art mediums. I mean, look at how Velvette handled Val's tantrum. She called Vox cause she didn't know how to handle that situation.
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chweverni · 11 months ago
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HOW I THINK _ bonedo 'n their love languages ! (pt.2)
pairing; ot6!bonedo x fem!reader synopsis; how would your adorable boyfriend(s) express their love for you? word count; 614 author's note; pt.2 is here!! wooo what are yall's thoughts on a taesan fic involving love potions? i got the idea a while back but idk if the commitment is there lmfaoo
read pt.1 here !
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KIM DONG HYUN - physical touch/gift giving & receiving !
ESFJs are.. interesting. when they're in love, every little thing their partners do, affect the way they judge their relationship. here, leehan would definitely be the one who's into physical affection a lot. for him, a day without your hugs and kisses, or cuddles right after waking up, is enough for him to jump into conclusions that maybe your day was bad, or that you had a nightmare. he'd do everything, in his favors to make your day better. leaving you in bed, with a forehead kiss, and going out of his way to bring you breakfast in bed is something i definitely think he'll do a lot! the type to be totally into pda because he desperately needs people to know that he has the most prettiest, cutest, sexiest, smartest and loving girlfriend on this entire planet!
think of gifts such as flowers, hand-made cards, CDs or cassettes, rings, things he made in art classes such as little pots, drawings, tickets to concerts or amusement parks, because he loves to spoil his babe a lot and would swim across oceans just to get you the things you like. and this would totally go both ways, too. you would exchange gifts whenever there's a special day you both would like to cherish together.
he'll probably get you hot water bags, chocolates, snacks and warm blankets when you're on your period and would check up on you frequently to make sure you're doing fine. he would give back rubs whenever you're having cramps, while you sleep helplessly on your bed.
"i made you this during pottery classes.. see the flowers here? they're real! i glazed them afterwards.", he'll say proudly, with his adorable eye smile.
you'd kiss him immediately right there and then, which he would return in a heartbeat.
KIM WOONHAK - quality time/physical affection !
another ENFP, who has an unhealthy obsession of being with and around you 24/7 because he just loves you a lot, he can't help it okay? for him, one second without you feels like eternity. you two spend every second together, being literally attached at the hip. the type to send you messages like, "i wish you lived next to me, so that whenever i wake up, i could just stick some notes in my window, wishing you good morning, hoping you'd see them.", knowing that you'd have to literally run out of your house to reach school on time if that happened. he's the one who yaps a lot in the relationship, while all you can do is either listen with full interest, or feed into his interests by asking him more. and if you do both, he'll probably be planning a future with you, far away from the main lands, because he wants you to himself.
the type to give you surprise hugs whenever you're fully focused on something, like reading a book, to see you flinch. he'll probably be into the concept of cheek touching, as a form of greeting you. be prepared for random kisses on your cheek, nose, forehead, lips, hands and knuckles through out the day, because poor baby just cannot get enough! think of teddy bear hugs, and him resting his chin on your shoulder.
he's totally the type to fall asleep in the bus/train ride home after school, leaning to your body or shoulder, while one of your earbuds is still playing faint music, to help him sleep.
"can you come over, baby? pretty please? i promise this is the last time i'm asking you this! i miss you.", even though it probably will continue to happen every single day.
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that's it! i hope i did them justice as usual <3
thanks for checking in on my blog, love you, bye!
all creds to chweverni only on tumblr !
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anton-luvr · 1 year ago
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could I request riize reaction to you having a nightmare? 🥺
# WHEN YOU HAVE A NIGHTMARE ; 7riize.
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𖦹 bf!riize x gn!reader | fluff & angst 𖦹 note ; thank u for requesting anon!! enjoyyyy <3
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# SHOTARO. - like the true esfj he is, he'll ask if you're okay. even if you were, he'll hug you anyways, kissing your hands softly as he reminds you it was all just a bad dream. lots of whispered affirmations and words of comfort.
# EUNSEOK. - honestly, he'll be confused at first. half awake, it'll take him about a minute to understand why you were crying at four in the morning. once he does, he'll softly talk it out with you. he'll pick at the storyline of your nightmare, showing you how impossible it would be for the nightmare to ever become reality. it may seem kinda cold, but it's enough to get you back to sleep.
# SUNGCHAN. - he'll let you cry it all out. but his heart breaks when you do, so he holds you close to him. kisses your tears away and runs his hands through your hair. lots and lots of reassurance and promises that he would never let anything happen to you as long as he was around.
# WONBIN. - he'll comfort you first, helping you calm down and wiping your tears away before hugging you. he thinks talking about it might make things worse, so he opts to sing you to sleep instead. he knows how much you love his voice. even after you fall asleep, he'll stay awake for a while longer to make sure you're okay.
# SEUNGHAN. - instantly has his arms around you. keeps kissing you while reassuring you it was all a stupid dream and a worthless thing to think about. he'll keep talking to you to distract you from it as you catch your breath, eventually making you smile at the jokes he cracks. feels proud when you fall asleep again in his arms, glad that he took care of you.
# SOHEE. - he won't really know how to comfort you, so he simply helps you calm down first. lots of reminders that it was all a dream, and he'll suggest watching something to get your mind off of it. presses plenty of kisses to your forehead while you doze off, your head resting on his chest. surprises you the next day with bed in breakfast.
# ANTON. - he just might cry with you. feels terrible and would do everything to comfort you. hugs you, kisses you, wipes your tears away, talks you out of it, makes hot chocolate for you, and would even go to the garage to find a night light for you. hugs you tightly as you fall asleep again, soft kisses on your cheeks to remind you that he's right beside you.
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© anton-luvr, 2023.
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personality-corner · 5 months ago
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Bridgerton MBTI
Daphne Bridgerton - ESFJ
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Daphne is motivated by the social norms in her society, and is very aware of how others are feeling. She cares a lot about what other people are doing, and tries to control the emotional environment to secure a match for herself. But this extends far beyond herself, she uses her emotional awareness to help Marina, and to call out Anthony when she notices he has feelings for Kate Sharma, rather than Edwina. Her awareness of how society works, and her own experiences seeing love with her parents have also influenced a lot of her decisions.
Simon Basset - ISTP
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Simon lives by his own logic, and often refuses to live by the objective rules set by society. He initially doesn’t want to have kids, because to him, that means letting his abusive father get what he wants. However, because of his logical view, he often ignores the emotions of others, and doesn’t think about how his actions affect everyone. He enjoys activities like boxing, as it keeps him busy and he also makes rather impulsive decisions to help with his Ti and his own plans.
Anthony Bridgerton - ESTJ
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Anthony is the oldest brother in the family, and therefore has the most responsibilities. He genuinely cares for his siblings, but shows this through his controlling tendencies and by taking a logical and objective approach to their projects. He nitpicks Daphne’s prospects to the point to where she is unhappy, and he also refuses to acknowledge his own feelings when it comes to marriage. He is very connected to his Si, which makes him haunted by the memory of his father, leading him to make many decisions based on tradition and knowledge of his environment.
Kate Bridgerton (nee Sharma)- ENTJ
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Kate is very similar to Anthony in many ways. She too, cares for her younger sibling and does so through an objective and controlling lens. She also refuses to apply emotions to her decisions, ignoring the fact that she does have feelings for Anthony, as his marriage to Edwina would be objectively better than a marriage to her. The main difference between Kate and Anthony, however, is that Kate’s decisions are based around ideas and the future rather than tradition and the past.
Penelope Bridgerton (nee Featherington)- INFP
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Penelope’s emotions are a guiding factor to her character- for better or for worse. She sometimes gets so obsessed with how she is feeling that she doesn’t stop to think about how her actions may be affecting those around her. However, her Fi is also her greatest strength as well. She is very critical of her environment and is able to focus on what she’s feeling, desiring a love match rather than a security match. Oftentimes, she confuses fiction for reality, which is the main reason her mother doesn’t like her reading books.
Colin Bridgerton- ENFP
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Colin is a dreamer, who is so focused on exploring the unknown and his thoughts, that he ignores what is right in front of him. It took him years to figure out that Penelope liked him… and that was only after Penelope explicitly told him she wanted to be more than friends. Not only this, but he is constantly looking at his own emotions to figure out what needs to happen. He unintentionally ruins Penelope’s proposal, because he realized that she doesn’t love Debling and that he wants her to be with him.
Eloise Bridgerton - INTJ
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Eloise tends to focus on a select few ideas, and doesn’t like to explore anything else that is critical of these ideas. Because of this, she tends to ignore or be unaware of what is going on around her, and how her ideas are not useful to everyone. She is constantly reading books and pamphlets, which is where she obtains a lot of the knowledge she does, and is constantly talking about this knowledge. She also has very strong Fi, criticizing Cressida when she does something that is against her morals.
Benedict Bridgerton - ESFP
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Benedict likes to live in the moment, and appreciate his surroundings. He does this through art, and sometimes sex. He has been known to participate in orgies and theeesomes for the sake of it. Unlike many of the other Bridgertons, Benedict seems less concerned about societal pressures as a whole. He doesn’t scold Eloise when he catches her smoking and instead asks her for something to smoke. He is more concerned doing what he wants than appeasing structure rules or appeasing society.
Violet Bridgerton - ISFJ
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Violet’s experiences are the guiding point of her character, and are exactly why she wants what she does for her children. She is a huge advocate for marrying for love, because she had married for love, and was very happy within her marriage. Despite this, she is also aware of social rules and tries her best to encourage her children to follow them. She scolds Colin for “encouraging inappropriate conversations” when he starts joking about sex to Eloise. She also encourages Eloise to attend balls, and interact with suitors.
Francesca Bridgerton - ISTJ
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Francesca wants a love match, but unlike Daphne or Anthony, she would prefer to not have many suitors. Francesca is comfortable with silence and knowing the environment she is in, and is often eager to talk about subjects she is knowledgeable in, such as piano forte. She also seems to be comfortable in a routine, doing the same things as she normally would on the day of her presentation because it is “just another day.”
To Be Typed: There will be another post, as Tumblr only allows ten pics per post, so I decided to make this post more centered around the Bridgertons and their love interests. I’m going to hold off on typing Hyacinth and Gregory until later seasons.
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Starlo's personality (in-depth)
Okay, this one took a LOT of thinking to decide on. Mainly because we see Starlo 100% in his persona for the majority of the time we spend with him. But now, I think I've had my boy figured out.
For a while now, I thought that he's either an ENTP or an ESTP with well-developed Fe, but eventually realized I had been looking at the image he put on, not the real him.
But before dwelling deeper into what his way of thinking actually is, I'd like to discuss why I don't think he's either ENTP or ESTP.
For ESTP, it's more obvious. Starlo… doesn't use Se at all, let alone as his dominant function. He lives in fantasy. He can come up with goofy ideas, and doesn't pay much attention to the "real world" (tries to escape from the real world instead)
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fantasy, not reality (Ceroba is a true realist though)
Starlo only pretends to be this 'tough guy,' his recklessness (I always call it carelessness) is part of the persona. And while I do think some part of him enjoys the fake adventures, it's mostly for show, to lift himself and others around him up, particularly Ceroba, and to feel like someone else.
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Now... the conclusion I came to was that Star had both Ne and Fe somewhere. The only question I had to ask myself was the order of these functions. In other words, is he dominant Ne/tertiary Fe or dominant Fe/tertiary Ne
The most important question here is: "What is his main motivation?"
Starlo cares a whole bunch about everyone around him. I feel like I've spoken about this so many times already, but he really is the 'papa bear' of the whole group. He makes sure to remind Mooch how they're not bandits, he gave the Four their own nap time, he organizes events, and overall tries to make the Wild East a comfortable place for everyone. Starlo really, REALLY wants to see everyone get along well with each other, and when that doesn't happen... he's deeply bothered by it.
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he hates it when there's no harmony and good vibes
Put bluntly, Starlo wants to contribute to his community. He most definitely thought something like this: "If I'm just a farmer, then I can't do anything to help myself feel less worthless, and I can't help other monsters have more hope, either. So, the only thing left for me to do is change most of my personality and be more 'flashy' and 'cool."
Sure, he comes up with creative ideas, but it isn't his main motivation or how he normally acts when he's not 'North Star'. Being all 'extravagent' is the dominant trait of the character Starlo plays (and personally, I think it is a part of Starlo himself, the part he's too afraid to let out if he's his true nerdy self, without the costume and badge and all)
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ESFJ: thinks in terms of group dynamics, motivates others to get things done, makes decisions that benefit the largest number of people, natural ability to process and deal with their feelings. On the negative side, they can place so much emphasis on social dynamics / emotions that they find it hard to step back and analyze their motives and feelings; thus they can lack self-understanding and/or pressure others into social norms. They use their Ne to brainstorm and for humor purposes; often to entertain others, to think up solutions, and to hypothesize, but their natural ability is not competently and accurately reading between the lines.
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I'd like to break this down carefully because, holy hell, this is Starlo from A to Z
thinks in terms of group dynamics/makes decisions that benefit the largest number of people - clear as day, that's why he has his posse (although I think this trait of his was underdeveloped during the events of UTY as Star probably made most of the decisions himself without asking the others)
motivates others to get things done
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pressure others into social norms - technically his own social norms, also the dress conditions he never used to overlook (I also heard ESFJs have style and care about how they appear to others, ENTPs don't; but maybe this is generalization)
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find it hard to step back and analyze their motives and feelings - Star turns to the outside world instead, not inwards at all. That's what makes him an extrovert, NOT because he's friendly and social (although he is)
They use their Ne to brainstorm and for humor purposes; often to entertain others - when I read ENTERTAIN OTHERS it all became clear to me
their natural ability is not competently and accurately reading between the lines - he can't even do it and has to directly ask ⬇️
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Extra thoughts
What I've also heard about the ESFJ type is that they really REALLY care about their social status/standing when unhealthy, which Star 120% did
It might seem weird that he's a sensor while also being super creative and into ideas, but that's his high tertiary Ne speaking (no wonder it's so high when he's been using it for years)
ESFJs are super charming too, but in a less 'agressive' way like ESTPs (I thought about Dina and Mo, I think they both share this type), or 'witty' way like ENTPs (Sans comes to mind). In others words, Starlo is the 'sweet nerd' kind of charming
ESFJs are bad at dealing with criticism
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Can become workaholics (ESTPs and ENTPs are more procastinators; again, I don't mean to generalize)
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They're clumsy, too (because of the tertiary Ne; unlike ESTPs, who are grounded in reality and most often aren't clumsy thanks to the dominant Se)
Popular people in leadership positions
Excellent planners (I know Star seems like a percieving type, but as I mentioned above, he actually organizes EVERYTHING)
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this makes me think Star has a certain routine (judging over percieving)
He remembers little details about things that happened last month (in the past), making me think of his auxiliary Si (and he also remembers what Ed had said about Clover "being the problem")
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So, what makes Starlo inferior Ti? The guy refuses to go inwards to solve his problems. He doesn't think that the most logical solution to the 'whole gang splitting up' situation is a simple apology, and is extremely self critical. Ti has the potential to disrupt or shatter one’s ego-image. Therefore, unhealthy or immature Fe-doms do their utmost to reject Ti in order to protect their ego-image. What this means for Starlo is that he wants to protect his persona in favor of what makes sense for him to do.
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Starlo putting himself down™
Fe will use Ti to construct “rational” explanations to confirm poor judgments about people or relationships. In other words, Fe will develop a maladaptive tendency to misinterpret people’s intentions, see ulterior motives that do not exist, or project their own personal issues onto others. Starlo "logically" thinks that everything was Clover's fault, he's projecting his own insecurities into this situation (playing the victim) and twisting Ed's words (who meant to say that Starlo's favorism OF Clover is the problem, not Clover themself)
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Not objective, but Starlo and Clover LOOK to me like the types I gave them (based on the offical trailers AND how Martlet describes them, that kid has this kind of a cute/warm/naive expression, I don't even know how to explain this but I'm throwing it in anyway 😅)
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Then there's Starlo
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I know the 'North Star' part of him probably wouldn't wanna hear this, but without the persona, Starlo looks and is... pretty normal. No flashiness, no overwhelming charm (it's still there, just more 'humble' & as Ed said, he can make his own fun in the little things). As much as Star might think otherwise thanks to those insecurities, this doesn't mean he ain't special, we all know he is
P.S. I can totally picture him treating everyone with Feisty Sliders & root beer after a long day, just like this guy (who somehow gives me the same cozy, kind vibe as Starlo???)
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but in all seriousness though, these traits fit Star 💯
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theninthdoor · 1 year ago
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Do one for skz please
I genuinely thought I had done this request already but instead it has been sitting here for 24 years, growing roots and fruits 🤡
request: What attracts them first in a person?
Bang Chan || nine of swords rx: When someone is clearly uninhibited, but not unruly - that always catches his attention. How capable someone is to talk about absolutely everything and anything, no matter how embarassing or taboo, as it is part of life and nothing more.
Lee Know || king of wands: Confidence, essentially. Self-assurance, a strong will and (measured) forthrightness. Doesn't mean that the person needs to be an extrovert or super outgoing, just that they should be confident in who they are & what they want. (biiig leo energy, by the way)
Changbin || ten of swords rx: People who refuse to play the victim or accept a defeat, attract him right away. When someone turns bad situations into favourable ones on their own accord, for example, or when they speak of a failure as a good lesson learnt. Strength, all around.
Hyunjin || the chariot: He likes it when someone just looks like they have no time or patience to waste on him?? People who are so focused on their own path and goals, that everything else disappears from their sight. So, basically, independence and determination.
Han || temperance: Gentleness, patience and open-mindedness. Kindness and understanding, overall, is the way to his heart, really. Not only is that a good thing to witness, but it also makes it easier for him to approach them.
Felix || the high priestess: He always feels pulled towards that one person who's unassuming, calm and wise. Also, highly intuitive people, who can always read the room and see the truth in others' words and actions (including his, of course). Style wise, modesty.
Seungmin || ten of wands: I got a very strong ISFJ/ESFJ energy from this, to be honest... Someone who's capable of handling a lot of responsibilities, yet is always open to take on more if needed. Helpful, organized and focused people. Generosity. Traditional looks, too, perhaps.
I.N || the devil: He always feels attracted to individuals who give off that impression that they are their own master. The sort of person who's familiar with both the light & the shadow sides of themselves, and know when to play which cards. Cunningness. Also, darker aesthetics/styles are likely to pull him in as well.
(Disclaimer: All is alleged and for entertainment purposes only. Based on current energies.)
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princesssarisa · 1 year ago
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Some “Little Women” thoughts – In defense of Meg’s marriage
@littlewomenpodcast, @thatscarletflycatcher, @joandfriedrich
Whether Little Women is a feminist book or an anti-feminist book will probably be debated forever.
Most of the debate seems to center around the character of Jo: whether she’s depressingly “tamed” in the end or matures in a healthy way, whether her marriage is anti-feminist or not, and whether or not it’s “anti-feminist” that in the end she’s a schoolmistress instead of a famous author. (Though of course she’ll eventually be a famous author in Jo’s Boys.) But similar debate surrounds the other March sisters too, for various reasons.
Not even Meg, the sister whom readers most often seem to overlook, is spared from these debates. Many feminist critics, such as (but not limited to) Samantha Ellis in her book How to Be a Heroine, have criticized the chapters depicting Meg and John Brooke’s married life in Part II. They label those chapters “depressing,” and they feel as if Meg and John are constantly at odds with each other and miserable. They argue that each of their marital conflicts ends with Meg learning to be a more submissive wife who placates and effaces herself for her husband. And they despise John, labeling him “selfish” and “disrespectful.”
Sometimes I wonder if I read the same book that they did.
It seems obvious to me that Meg and John’s marriage is a happy and healthy one: Alcott is just honest about the fact that even the happiest marriage includes conflict and requires work. Some of these critics seem to think fictional marriages only exist in two forms, “perfect” and “toxic,” with no in-betweens. Nor does John deserve half the negative commentary he gets, nor does Meg’s personal growth within her marriage consist of learning to be a submissive or self-effacing wife. On the contrary, much of her growth consists of her learning that she doesn’t need to be a “perfect” housewife and mother who gives and demands too much of herself, and their marriage becomes more of an equal partnership by the end, not less of one.
Let’s look in depth all three of Meg and John’s marital conflicts.
First there’s the jelly incident.
Here we see the first of a recurring theme: Meg is determined to be the perfect housewife and is "over-anxious to please.” She wants to do everything right and do it all by herself, because she’s afraid that otherwise, she'll be a failure. In terms of her personality type, I agree with @funkymbtifiction that Meg is an ESFJ. In the book, if not in all adaptations, Meg and Amy are both ESFJs: Amy is more of the sparkling “Glinda in Wicked” variety, while Meg, apart from her streak of vanity, is more of the down-to-earth, motherly, “Mrs. Potts in Beauty and the Beast” variety. But Meg in particular shows what @alittlebitofpersonality calls the ESFJ Type Angst. Her eagerness to manage her marriage and motherhood in the most pleasant, correct way (her strong Fe and Si) and her fear of possible failure (her weak Ne and Ti) give her, in A Little Bit of Personality’s words, a “frantic desire to do everything and get it done right now,” so she drives herself too hard.
She shouldn’t have promised John that he could bring home a dinner guest at any time; that’s unrealistic. Nor should she have tried to make jelly for the first time in her life using only the memory of watching Hannah make it; she should have invited Hannah over to help her. Nor should she have become so absorbed in making and re-making the jelly that she didn’t cook dinner; nor should she have let herself be so distraught about the failed jelly, or lost her temper with John and then run to her room, leaving him to improvise a bread-and-cheese dinner and entertain Mr. Scott alone.
John is also at fault and acknowledges it. He shouldn’t have forgotten that Meg was making jelly that day and brought home a guest without warning. He shouldn’t have laughed at Meg’s anguish over the failed jelly, nor should he have joked that he and Mr. Scott “won’t ask for jelly” with dinner. But let’s be fair to John. His laughter is probably just as much out of relief as out of amusement, because when he first comes home and finds Meg sobbing, he worries that something terrible has happened. Then, when he realizes no food has been cooked, he’s understandably annoyed because he’s come home from work tired and hungry, with a guest too, and Meg hasn’t done what she promised she would. But he doesn’t lose his temper; he stays calm and amiable and accepts a cold-cut meal; he just gives his annoyance a tiny vent with his joking barb about the jelly. Then Meg overreacts in response.
In the hours afterwards, he and Meg are still polite to each other, just a bit distant, each sorry but waiting for the other to apologize first. Then, when Meg finally breaks the ice, they both apologize (not just Meg – in fact only John verbally apologizes, Meg just does it with a kiss), everything is fine again, and from then on they both laugh about the incident.
Maybe by modern standards, it is problematic that Marmee has urged Meg to be careful not to make John angry and to always apologize first when they’re both at fault. But it’s not because John has “a volcanic temper,” as Samantha Ellis inexplicably claimed– he so clearly doesn’t! Nor is Marmee’s message “Men are less forgiving than women so we need to placate them.” She’s not talking about “men,” but about John the individual, and she’s not urging Meg to placate him either. All she means is that John’s anger doesn’t flare up and die quickly like the March women’s, but simmers much longer because he represses it.
Then there’s the silk incident.
Say what you will about vanity-shaming and other gendered implications (which of course are valid), but Meg didn’t need an expensive silk dress, and she shouldn’t have ordered it without telling John. It’s not that a wife should ask her husband’s permission to spend money; it’s that no one, regardless of gender, should do anything behind their spouse’s back that they’re ashamed to admit. And again, John doesn’t get angry. He accepts the expense without complaining. He’s just hurt; he works so hard to provide for Meg, and the fact that what he provides isn’t good enough for her, that she says “I’m tired of being poor,” makes him feel inadequate. Yet he tries not to show his hurt and is willing to let Meg have the dress. He cancels his own order for a new overcoat so they can afford it; he’s willing to sacrifice something he needs for something Meg wants but doesn’t need. When Meg sells the silk and buys the overcoat for John instead, she’s only repaying his selflessness in kind.
Finally, we reach the chapter “On the Shelf.”
I’ve read several feminist articles that criticize this chapter and especially John’s behavior in it. But I don’t agree with any of them. John isn’t being selfish the way Meg briefly thinks he is; he’s not jealous of her attention to the twins. By all appearances, Meg genuinely neglects him and overwhelms herself too, because she devotes every waking moment to her two toddlers and thinks no one can properly take care of them but herself. Again she’s trying to be superhuman because she’s afraid of failure. She doesn’t let John be a parent to his own children, or take any time to relax either, and she spoils the twins and makes things harder for herself by giving in to their tantrums. I understand why some feminists are rankled when John starts spending his evenings elsewhere, Meg feels ignored, and Marmee tells her it’s her own fault for forgetting ‘her duty to her husband.” But even if that wording isn’t ideal by modern standards, it's arguably true. To blame John for “not bothering” to help take care of the twins and “forcing” Meg to do it all alone, as some of these critics do, is just the opposite of what the chapter means to convey.
And again, John doesn’t get angry or complain. Nor, unlike what some of these critics seem to think, does he cheat on Meg, either physically or emotionally. He just goes to visit the Scotts rather than feel lonely and useless at home (where Samantha Ellis got the idea that he goes to “what sounds like a dodgy establishment” is beyond me; it’s a friend’s house), and just because Meg worries that his eye is roving to pretty Mrs. Scott doesn’t mean it is.
Arguably, this chapter has a very feminist message about egalitarian marriage and co-parenting. Instead of doing all the work alone and sacrificing her own wellbeing, Meg learns to share her parenting duties with John, and to let Hannah babysit often so they can have much-needed time to themselves too. She also starts to converse with John about politics, so he doesn’t constantly feel the need to seek out a male friend to discuss them, and he returns the favor by conversing with her about domestic subjects too. Traditional gender divides are relaxed. By the end of the chapter, their marriage is more balanced and equal than ever.
I’ve also read complaints about John’s co-parenting. The fact that Meg is portrayed as too soft-hearted, spoiling rowdy Demi and needing John to discipline him. The fact that John and therefore Alcott advocates the potentially traumatic “cry it out” method of sleep training. The fact that John insists on handling Demi’s tantrum in his own way despite Meg’s objections and Meg reluctantly gives in, with references to John’s “masterful tone” and Meg’s “docility.” The possible sexist implication that John knows how to parent better than Meg does.
But I don’t think Alcott meant to imply that John is a better parent than Meg or meant us to see him as lording over her. Even though he won’t let her give in to Demi’s demands, what finally stops Demi’s tantrum is a kiss from Meg after he’s been allowed to cry for a few minutes. They solve the problem together by combining John’s discipline with Meg’s tenderness. Then John shows tenderness of his own by lying down on the bed and holding Demi as he falls asleep, so it’s not a straightforward “cry it out” that he (or Alcott) advocates for sleep training, but something closer to the Ferber Method.
Of course there is an old-fashioned, traditional aura to Meg and John’s marriage and to their roles in the house: Meg as homemaker and John as breadwinner, Meg as nurturer and John as disciplinarian to the twins, and her fondness for sitting in his lap. But of the four March sisters, Meg was always the most traditional young woman of her era. Her marriage dynamic might not be what Jo or even Amy would want, but it’s just right for Meg. And Alcott shows us that with the right effort, even a basically traditional marriage can be egalitarian and mutually healthy.
The one feminist complaint I might sympathize with is that all three of these episodes do revolve around Meg learning to be a better wife. In each instance, Meg is portrayed as being more at fault than John, and she’s the one who learns the chief lesson. But I don’t consider this a sexist choice either. The March sisters are the protagonists of Little Women. Their coming-of-age journeys and personal growth are the focal point. John is a supporting character, so it’s arguably only natural that the “married life” chapters focus more on Meg’s personal growth than on his.
These are the reasons why I personally enjoy the chapters revolving around Meg and John’s marriage, and why I don’t consider them problematic or “depressing.” They’re just a realistic portrayal of the struggles, mistakes, and conflicts that occasionally rise within a happy marriage, which are resolved in a healthy way when both partners put in the necessary work. I understand where the critics who dislike those chapters are coming from, but I can’t bring myself to agree.
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rainytypology · 2 years ago
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A view of each MBTI type by an INTJ:
Saw a few of these lately so why not? Lol
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INTJ: My type and the best type obviously. Kidding. Not really. Healthy/mature ones are interesting and helpful, nice and easy to talk to. I've noticed immature ones try a little too hard to seem edgy and cool to fit into the "cold" INTJ stereotype when that's not a flex at all. I think a lot of us are impatient and stubborn too.
ENTJ: Often driven and motivated individuals who put in a lot of effort into what they do. I admire their hardworking nature. I've unfortunately come across a very unhealthy one before who was quite possessive and narcissistic. I did not have to deal with them personally, but a few of my friends did and their horror stories of that ENTJ will probably be stuck with me forever.
INTP: Their minds are...unique. I wonder what goes on in there. Such weird yet interesting individuals. Sometimes a bit rude, unintentional or not. My younger sister is one and I have to resist the urge to fight with her a lot lmao, but maybe that's just us being siblings.
ENTP: Love them. ENxPs in general 🤌🤌. I've never come across a boring ENTP. Often so chaotic. Never fail to make me laugh. I can have the funnest conversations with them. So witty.
INFJ: One of my best friends is one and it's kinda funny how similar yet different we both are. Ni dom things I guess. Other INFJs I've observed seem to have a lot of patience and kindness. Genuinely have a good heart and want the best for others.
ENFJ: I've only met two personally. Can be funny and witty, really approachable people. Both are very loyal and care a lot about their families, they carry a lot of responsibilities for others. Do not like to show their struggles, will probably mention it briefly before changing the subject.
INFP: Probably my least favorite type due to having bad experiences with them. Unhealthy ones can be so whiney and pathetic. Always want to cry and complain but never actually do anything about it. Can burst emotionally without warning. They can be so exhausting to deal with. I'm not gonna automatically hate you if you're an INFP though, that's just stupid lol, but I will be wary. I only have one INFP friend for now and likely because she's a lot older than me, she's much calmer and more considerate compared to the previous INFPs I've encountered.
ENFP: Some weirdos fr but I love it. Always so talkative and excited. Why are you guys lowkey kinda sad though 😭
ISTJ: I haven't come across any irl yet, but a few of my favorite fictional characters are ISTJs. One of my fav kpop idols as well. Not really sure where the boring stereotype comes from as I think ISTJs are quite nice.
ESTJ: I don't think I've met any yet and have typed a few idols as an ESTJ. I know they get a bad rep, but I honestly just think it stems from ESTJ's tendency to be direct, no bs, which can be intimidating/overwhelming for people. They can be really weird and silly only if they're comfortable.
ISFJ: I don't know any ISFJs irl, but seeing ISFJ idols/celebrities, they're just usually nice and kind people. Quiet but do enjoy being with others.
ESFJ: Honestly think my other best friend may be one 🤔 I do think she has a high Fe for sure. They seem to care the most about their presentation and other's opinions of them.
ISTP: I've only met one and they were okay. Pretty chill and had immense "idgaf" energy. But that attitude was also what made them a bit unlikeable as it extended to having a disregard for feelings and morals. Nobody's perfect, but I don't think it's that difficult to have common human decency. I do like a few ISTP characters and celebrities though.
ESTP: One of my older siblings is one and we get along fine. She has a good eye for aesthetics. Her and other ESTPs I've seen don't really seem to be super serious people, they're just trying their best to enjoy life. Adventurous and open minded. Can't seem to stay still.
ISFP: Have only met a few irl and I've also typed several kpop idols as one. From what I've seen, they are a lot calmer compared to INFPs. They're quite passionate but more realistic individuals though, always going for what they want (likely due to aux Se). Also quite blunt lol but it does not top IxTP's honesty.
ESFP: Have not met any irl yet, but from observing an ESFP I follow and ESFP celebrities, I like their straightforwardness. Passionate and expressive. Funny.
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silvyadrakkon · 4 months ago
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3 Under-Discussed Writer’s Block Busters
You all know me as an artist, but my first love will always be writing. And writer’s block is REAL. 
So I thought I’d throw out a few of my moderately unusual writer’s block busters to help my fellow authors.
Of course, the most common “answers” to writer’s block are:
Just keep writing, even if you don’t want to. (Something is better than nothing.)
Write now, edit later. (Leave your perfectionism at the door.)
Find what makes you most creative. (Play music, write during the same time of day, find good snacks, write in the right setting, and so on).
These are definitely helpful tips—things you 100% want to do whether you have writer’s block or not, but they’re not much use against more stubborn forms of creative constipation.
That’s where my three failsafe fix-its come in. They have always worked for me, no matter the situation. 
1. Change your writing method.
Story time! I haven’t been able to write for personal prodjects on a computer for four years—about as long as I’ve been writing and editing for my career. I associate my computer with business—even now that I’m between jobs.
My creativity freezes up whenever I try to work on one of my stories, and I get really distracted. Eventually I end up down a rabbit hole looking up limnic eruptions or different types of crocodiles, having only written a paragraph of a completely unrelated story. 
I swapped to hand-writing stuff just after my son was born, and that worked for a long time. I filled several notebooks with some great content (that will eventually be ready for you to read). But then my kid started walking, and I became his favorite chair.
If I have a pen, my kid wants it. And he won’t take a decoy pen. He specifically wants the pen in my hand, so writing when he’s awake is kind of out of the question. (I can only draw when he’s awake because I can balance my tablet on the back of our sofa.) Plus, those of you with munchkins know that you’re generally doing other responsible adult things when the kiddo is asleep, making writing then rather difficult.
I learned I can get a lot of writing done on my phone in the Apple Notes app. It sure beats doom-scrolling Tumblr and is a vast improvement over my retro minesweeper game when I’m spending some quality time in the bathroom. It’s also something I can write with when standing up, sitting on the couch, or hiding behind the baby gate on our stairs.
Can’t get the words out on Google Docs? Switch to Microsoft Word. Getting distracted on your computer? Handwrite your story—in a notebook or even on colorful construction paper. Don’t be afraid to experiment, even across the same story.
2. Get a second opinion.
I have a character floating around my WIPs who’s an absolute blast to write (I can unleash my full punning arsenal), but he’s also an ENFP, meaning we see the world in completely different ways. I often find myself stuck on how he would get out of the really nutty situations he often gets himself into. Thankfully, my ESFJ husband has really strong Extroverted Intuition (an ENFP’s dominant Jungian function), so I can often turn to him and ask, “What would be the dumbest could-work way you’d fix this problem?”
Asking for a second opinion is surprisingly low on most writer’s block fix-it lists, but it is by far one of the most helpful. I’ve been my mom’s developmental story consultant since I could read, and it’s been a great way for her to really churn out the novels. (It’s also a great motivation to finish your story because at least one person will be wanting to read it when you’re done.)
Even if you don’t take someone’s advice, it might still spark something that’ll propel your story forward.
3. Change your story’s direction.
Adapted from The Writing Life by Annie Dillard
Writing, in many ways, is a lot like digging a silver mine. As you rummage around your own head for precious nuggets (those really impactful scenes readers remember forever), you’re setting up a sturdy narrative shaft, using exposition and rising action to fortify walls so your story doesn’t collapse on itself.
Experienced miners know when a shaft isn’t structurally sound. They won’t willingly enter or work on a mine that could cave in on them, gauging the safety of the mine through small clues—clues their demanding boss is completely blind to. 
Your creative subconscious is a miner, and you, its employer. While not always, writer’s block could be an early sign that your story is about to collapse. Perhaps you’ve accidentally let a plot hole grow too large to fill with easy edits, or maybe the way you’re taking your story will fall flat, leaving you and your readers unsatisfied. Sure, you can force your creative subconscious to continue, but you’ll end up with a lot of unusable content in the end.
If you think you’re in a mine shaft writer’s block scenario, go back several plot points and start writing in another direction. If that doesn’t work, go back a few more plot points. While doing so may temporarily upset the plans you had for the novel, it will let you continue writing in peace and produce a better finished product.
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aphrodeiities · 8 months ago
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𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔢𝔰𝔣𝔧 𝔞𝔯𝔠𝔥𝔢𝔱𝔶𝔭𝔢
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ESFJ ⟶ extroverted feeling, introverted sensing, extroverted intuition and introverted thinking.
breaking down the archetype ⬎
♇ the archetype is made up of Fe Si Ne and Ti.
E = extroversion.
S = sensing.
F = feeling.
J = judging.
♇ the first two functions that determine the ESFJ TYPE CODE ⬎
Fe Si Ne Ti
♇ the Fe and Si within the ESFJ function makes up for the two missing letters in the middle of the type code: E _ _ J because the two missing letters in the middle are the first two functions!
♇ the Fe is the _ _ F _ because it is about extroverted feeling.
♇ the Si is the _ S _ _ because it is about introverted sensing.
-but what makes up the first letter in the code?
♇ what makes up for the first letter in the code is the second letter to the strongest function for the archetype. and the strongest function for ESTJ is Fe and evidently the second letter is “E” which causes the function to now become from _ S T _ to E S T _ .
♇ but what makes up the last letter in the code?
♇ you’ll have to look back at the first extroverted archetype in the entire code. and for ESFJ it is ⟶ Fe Si Ne Ti. the first extroverted function in the type is Fe, which is extroverted feeling.
♇ Fe belongs to the judging function which displays the fact that the last letter to E S T _ will be E S T J.
explaining the archetype ⬎
ESFJ's like to help other people, they can be considered to be forward with how they think and speak, and have a feasible and efficient way of doing stuff. they are people who are for the people! they are friendly, and like to be around friends and like to connect with others.
people could think of ESFJ's to be responsible, and since they like to be around people a lot, they can find themselves doing a lot of people-pleasing stuff since they like to be in harmony and peace, so they like to keep it that way. their friendly and tranquil energy can aid them to become popular. they work hard to maintain their connections with their friends, and they like it when its reciprocated.
they're idealistic people, but can be people who have a strong distaste towards critique. they are strong people with strong opinions and know what they want.
they could be people who like to be mediators, they like to learn everything they're intrigued by, and they're the type of people who remember random but vital facts. ESFJ's can be people who when they're advising other people, they like to base things on personal experiences.
they like to have things in order, and don't like feeling left out. they are people who like to be aware of their surroundings, like to read the room and be people who follow order.
ESFJ's are people who like to feel their emotions, and like to live in a world of harmony. they are usually the type of people who use their heart more than their head. they like to feel connected to the earth, to life, them being apart of something is what makes them move.
they can be considered to be people who are are friendly, aiding and supporting. as they're people who like to support, they take an interest in uniting other people and bringing out the best in them.
on the other hand, they can also be people who are emotionally chaotic, they dont like to be alone, the fear of being forgotten and unwanted is what they dislike the most. this can also make them very dramatic.
ESFJ'S AUXILIARY ⟶ SI. [AUXILIARY HELPS GROWTH/HEALTHY OR DEVELOPED ESFJ’S] ⬎
ESFJ's when developed are keen on details, but aren't obsessive about them, they are people who value proper traditional method, but when they feel like something is supposed to be changed, they wouldnt mind going for it.
they are people who aim for ambitious goals, and they can be considered as people who benefit from routines especially when they make sure they are not controlled by them.
ESFJ's when developed are able to handle discomfort, and whenever they go through obstacles they treat it as a learning challenge.
WHEN ESFJ’s BEHAVE INHIBITED ⬎
when ESFJ's act out of character, they can be very obsessive when itcomes to earning results, they can get too dependent on it.
they can be the type of people who over manage everything, being energy-draining perfectionists, nit-picking every detail that exists, especially commodities that go against expectations that are realistic.
they can also be people who obsessively enforces proper behaviour in other people. sometimes they cannot separate delusion and reality, and they can be the type of people who put on a mask and deny the negative, they're very rose coloured glasses people.
ESFJ's can be people who risk dangerous experiences to mask up their depressive state, and ESFJ's are the type of people to make up bad excuses whenever someone notices a flaw in them.
and whenever they dont want to feel disappointed, they lower their expectations and accept the bare minimum. but on the other hand they can be people who imagine worse case scenarios to avert advice that could be deemed good for them. this can make them suspicious with other people easily.
INFERIOR TI GRIP⬎
ESFJ's are the type of people who could feel lonely and disconnected from everything, and when they're confronted about ill behaviour they could sometimes feel like they're being cornered by everyone. they could be the type of people who are always confused, and paranoid about everything that breathes.
when low, they can be critical and dismissive about other people, and whenever they portray negative behaviour they always want to excuse themselves.
can become very addicted and obsessive people, and when they think there is a problem, they can become addicted to finding how to fix it. people from this archetype are the type of people who believe they're rational when it is totally the opposite.
could feel underlying feelings, specifically negative feelings which could push them into alienating themselves.
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oiblackestsheep · 6 months ago
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How to connect with the MBTI types: Dominant Judgers
INTP/ISTP
(Dominant Ti) Ask them how something works. These types love understanding things and being able to pass that knowledge onto other people. The only thing better than asking these types "How does that work?" is asking "Why does it work that way?" In childhood, these types' favorite word was likely "why?", thus creating their insatiable need for complete comprehension of their worlds, internal and external alike. Bonus points if you can find a way to explain to them how and why something is the way it is that they didn't already know!
ENTJ/ESTJ
(Dominant Te) Ask them to show you how to do something. Not completely dissimilar from the previous types, the dom Te types place a greater emphasis on the objective and measurable impacts of their skills. They also gain fulfillment from passing their knowledge onto other people, but this time it is in such a way that they can feel proud knowing that they helped someone become more competent and effective at a skill that they deem important to know. If you are attentive to their words and demonstrate an eagerness to learn and apply a useful skill, these types will gladly engage with you.
INFP/ISFP
(Dominant Fi) Ask them for their opinions (or their hot-takes if you're feeling brave). A good place to start (if you're playing it safe) could be asking for personal advice (the level of depth you choose to go is up to you and should fit the situation!), specifically asking what these types would personally do if they were in your situation. These types can be very empathetic when they place themselves in other people's shoes. They also enjoy sharing their personal, moralistic values with others, so asking for their insight can be a positive experience for both of you!
ENFJ/ESFJ
(Dominant Fe) Ask them how you can help them (or others). You'll often find that these types were the first to initiate the conversation, and that is because they place the community's comfort and happiness above most other things; that includes you! They want to know how you are and if they can do anything for you. If you reciprocate those sentiments, they will likely be taken by suprise and very thankful that someone else is also looking after the community like they are. Not to mention that they likely aren't looking after themselves as much as they should be, so looking after them could make them feel seen and valued in a way they didn't know they needed.
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writteninlunarlight-years · 4 months ago
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Turning this in to a mini series for my MBTI peoples
ESFJ (Consul) Reader
Alastor loves how responsible and like-minded you are. You are very set on bringing in those with mindsets similar to yours. You'll take the initiative and leave the demon to wonder who really wears the pants in the relationship.
After Adam attacks Alastor, you and he are really close. You admire how he would sacrifice himself for your friends, and he finds it courageous that you will stand before anything for them. Yet he would prefer you both to come out alive.
He feels terrible when you two fight because he knows it takes a toll on you far worse than on him. You like things to be good with your tight-nit bonds, but sometimes, he is very stuck in his ways, and it goes against your values, leading to some rough spots.
Alastor appreciates that even if you two are in a large fight, you are loyal to the bone. You will be right there defending him because he is your person. You don't let petty infighting prevent you from caring for him.
Alastor appreciates how hard you work for the hotel, but your overly structured routine sometimes gets in the way of other things. This can lead to both of you feeling unheard or overwhelmed.
Overall, all will be well if you two communicate well and stick by each other's sides. Try not to get too upset when things don't go your way, and Alastor will do his best to ensure you follow a decent routine.
ISTJ (Logistician) Reader
Alastor was a big fan of your respect for him and his title as overlord. Maybe not so much because you still held Charlie, especially Lucifer, over him. But the way you were punctual with him because he had higher authority meant a lot.
You are a sincere, open soul, which can sometimes cause conflict, but Alastor appreciates it. The way you are always bold and proud of what you did makes him feel like he can trust you a lot because you will always be there.
You are very punctual, and he admires that. However, if you fight with him because he changes your schedule, he is not happy about it. Sometimes, things pop up, and he tries to help you understand and work through these emotions you get.
Alastor adores that you want to help him with his massive work, but he worries that you put far too much on your plate by helping him and the others regularly. He would prefer it if you took less on your plate, allowing him to help you.
When it comes to boundaries, Alastor is quick to make sure everyone follows yours adequately. He doesn't want you overwhelmed or run down. However, you tend to break your boundaries for others, leaving him exhausted trying to clean everything up.
Overall, you two work well together. Your relationship is very hierarchy-based. He values your respect and kindness as much as you value his personality and drive. Keep open communication, and everything will work out.
ENTJ (Commander) Reader
You have one sure-fire way with words, which terrifies the Radio Demon. You can sometimes get almost anyone to join your cause, including him. You can speak nearly anything into existence, and people will believe it as fact.
Alastor has yet to see you indeed fail. When you fail, you return on your feet, reconstructing the narrative to be positive once more. It was almost too good that it made him doubt how in charge he was.
You collect souls like candy or bargain them back for people. Either way, you threaten Alastor, making him want you more. You can play mind games better than even he can, which could be a valuable asset.
You are exceptionally good at finding the talent of those around you and using them to your will. Something Alstor prided himself on as well. With you two together, it is like a powerhouse of soul bidding.
You are rude and abrasive when people don't meet your expectations. You may lead well, but you have difficulty congratulating the stragglers. This can sometimes affect Alastor, especially if you are on opposing teams.
Overall, try to be more in touch with your sensitive side. Not everything is with or against you. If you can do that, you and Alsator would be a giant power couple.
INTP (Logician) Reader
Alastor liked how unlike others you were. The lonesome nights fiddling in your room tweaking an experiment or idea you had to perfection. The way you were curious about it all fascinated him.
You always have interesting things to discuss with him. Though it took time for him to be allowed in your space and you in his, he doesn't regret it for the world. It is never a dull moment with you.
Alastor loves it when you ask him to hide out with you. You want to share your tinkering with him rather than with others. Charlie just wears you both out too fast. So, you can perfect your ultimate objectives by hiding away in many places in the hotel.
You hum with many possibilities, but nothing pleases and upsets Alastor more than your back-and-forth on many topics. He would like you to stick to one decision, but you play devil's advocate well, which allows you to bounce around, frustrating the man.
You sometimes come off as cold and unresponsive, though this trait is common in Alastor. He worries when you can not articulate or handle your emotions let alone when he opens up. However, you are a creative mastermind, and you pull yourself out of it by finding a way to make things work.
Overall, you two work well together. You offer Alastore the peace and quiet he desperately needs while you get to run through the millions of questions in your head alone. However, don't be fooled by his silence; he would love to hear everything you say.
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sommerregenjuniluft · 6 months ago
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please share about the marauders mbti types lune <33
now this is just way too broadly formulated i’m gonna go on a YAP adventure and it’s solely ur fault royal
first of all i wanna say how much pandora and evan are the intp & istp siblings duo like PLS!!!!!!!! look me in the eye and tell me pandora invents spells socially awkward hyperfixated bright mind isnt intp and evan gifted duelist hands on learning bitchy ass rosier isnt an istp!!!! okay now that i got this off my chest…… barty estp of course, our chaotic king<3 we cherish him and the vibe that he brings to the function. sirius is always hard to figure out for me for someone reason idk but with some help of bea aka tumblr user @faggylittleleatherboy reincarnated sirius black i found my truth for him as entp aka the charming little shit personality. i knew james was gonna be similar to him and barty so the eventual choice fell on entj (not sure i’m entirely happy with this one yet tho). next up, lily!! that one was harder for me too, i sorta ended up at i/enfj. i feel like lily is pretty ambivert! google claimed she was an esfj and i can see why they would say that but as an aquarius myself i feel the need to point out that we are not practical!! i dont know one aquarius that would prefer being practical over daydreaming/philosophing!!!!! i physically need her to be a witty and charming and creative!!!!
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sxthee · 3 months ago
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HOW TO MEMORIZE MBTI COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS/STACKS
okay, so we're all familiar with the intj, esfj, entp and all those stuff! 16personalities would say that those people are merely "introverted, intuitive, thinking, and judging" and same goes to other mbti types, but when you fall deeper into this mbti thing, you realize that there are cognitive functions!! and now you're crossed with introverted intuition (Ni), extroverted sensing (Se) and all those stuff; sure you're familiar with them now, but you're still stumped on how you'll be able to memorize it!
people often say them memorizing it just "clicks" with them someday. but what if i tell you there's an easier way to memorize it?
i'll now share you an explanation that is easy for me to understand; i hope that it'll be as easy for you as well and you can use this to your advantage!! i'll try to make it succinct as possible with additional visuals for easier understanding! (i'll exclude the explanation of what the E/I, N/S, T/F, and J/P are, since am sure most of y'all are familiar what they stand for)
---explanation below---
xxxO (J/P)
• dictates whether xxOx is an extrovert or introvert function • J = dictates xxOx is an extrovert function (Oe) • P = dictates xxOx is an introvert function (Oi)
Oxxx (E/I) [Dominant and Auxiliary Function]
• dictates whether which of the two functions (xOOx) are the dominant function and auxiliary function
The Tertiary and Inferior
• follows an alternating stack by reffering to the first 2 cognitive stack • Oi Oe Oi Oe - or - Oe Oi Oe Oi • inferior function is the opposite of dominant function: N-S, F-T; and extrovert-introvert • tertiary function is opposite of auxiliary function: N-S, F-T; and extrovert-introvert
ISTP:
I hope those make sense XDD
But!!! I'll provide some visuals to better understand it. Let's use ISTP, ESTP, ESTJ, and INFJ as our examples! (beginning of demonstration always starts with a "XXXX") [there's also an image description provided :>>]
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ESTP:
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ESTJ:
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INFJ:
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I hope this helps!!! You can ask me further about stuff related to this post if youre still confused, i'll try answering as best to my knowledge! (i'm still learning thou coz LDKSFDHSLGF)
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annbourbon · 11 months ago
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🖤 ✨ 🖤 ✨ Rika ✨ 🖤 ✨ 🖤
Let's start with Rika...
⚠️possible spoilers ahead, be warned⚠️
I can't believe I actually didn't realize that. I mean, I did it. Like 7 years ago, but I had no clue on how to explain it.
Besides it needs from Mystic Messenger Timeline *which I'm still working on, and trying to finish* to actually make sense.
Disclaimer: Please take into account that whatever I say here, it's only my opinion after playing the game so many years. I'm not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, or therapist of any kind. I'm just a writer, who loves to spend time analysing characters and stories.
I did asked to my mom to help me with this and the other characters because of how difficult the task ahead of me was. My mom, who is an actual therapist, did her best to help me, but I did most of the analysis here, since I'm the one who knows the in's and outs of this game. Besides, I did my research and I'll make sure to quote it! So give it a chance and keep reading even if you disagree with me. And then, I'd love to read your thoughts on the topic 💕
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Narcissus. Also known as daffodil.
Should I talk to you about the dark side of the flowers and tie it to MM characters?? Anyways, Rika is a narcissistic. But also has a profound trauma. One doesn't exclude the other. Here's a quote from Mayo Clinic:
«Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.»
Causes: The cause is likely complex. Narcissistic personality disorder may be linked to:
Environment — parent-child relationships with either too much adoration or too much criticism that don't match the child's actual experiences and achievements.
There are other two, that are genetic, and neurobiology causes, but I'll be focusing more on the environment, which let's be honest, it's what is displayed on the game. If you're interested on reading more about it, there's a link before the quote and, on References, I'll also be leaving every single link.
So let's go back to Rika and please read the next three images while remembering how's her relationship with V, and Saeran. Sometimes even with MC, and Mika.
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As you can see...
Attention:
* Creates the RFA. Receives attention.
* Creates Mint Eye. Receives attention.
* Says V is her Sun.
* As soon as she gets tired, says V's killing her and wants to leave
* Wants to mix RFA and Mint Eye. I assume is because despite everything, she feels like she's losing attention on everything she created. And MC is the reason of that too.
They don't choose losers:
V is a millionaire
Jumin is a millionaire
Zen is super sexy and hot
Jaehee and the twins are really smart
Do I need to keep going? Even Elizabeth the 3rd is one of the most beautiful cats ever seen.
Grooming:
Here's the part that keeps bothering me because I realized about it before I could actually explain what it was going on. Seven years ago I decided to play the game, and I finished feeling a bit too weird on how everyone was so infatuated with Rika... it wasn't any other person that just dies and then the group dies too. It was still active two years after losing her (?) Even though they have only know each other for... 4 to 6 years?
Some even less. Like Jaehee. Which randomly brings me to: She's an ENFJ so she does focus on details like Jaehee (Jaehee might be ISFJ, ISTJ or even ESFJ considering how well she manages around people too. But that's another story.) Her enneagram is probably 1.
I can understand Yoosung, but... you know what I mean. It was weird. And once I reached the first VN novel about V and Rika I felt even more weirded out by these two.
I don't think I can pinpoint it but I felt like Rika was manipulating V so I was surprised when I realized some members were tying these two as lovers and a beautiful couple. Do you guys remember V being surprised by Rika quoting "The Sun is the mother of all"?? Yeah... Even back then, for me it was a highlight of how messed up their relationship was. But again, I couldn't exactly pinpoint it. Until, now.
After Cheritz released Another Story, and Rika DLC, many of my theories came true. But still in a disorganized way. Which is why I created The Mystic Messenger Timeline.
I did confirmed one thing:
Rika is a narcissist and V is a people pleaser (that doesn't make him any less villainous of what he is, but I'll explain once we'll reach his profile. I promise.) at least at the very beginning of this story.
She probably has psychopatic tendencies
She definitely has sadistic and abusive tendencies: I have a hard time putting through her whole behavior during Saeran's Route and especially during his AE. But she takes pleasure in hurting others. V, Saeran, MC, Mint Eye associates, etc.
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A bit of One on the Enneagram:
It is called The Reformer.
Because Ones have a “sense of mission” that leads them to want to improve the world in various ways, using whatever degree of influence they have. They strive to overcome adversity—particularly moral adversity—so that the human spirit can shine through and make a difference. They strive after “higher values,” even at the cost of great personal sacrifice.
If you think I'm too far off, then please check the levels of healthy and unhealthy Ones can have. They sure ring a bit too much for me on Rika's behavior. From Level 1 to 9, we can see her evolution during the game. But here you have a couple of her worse traits.
Unhealthy Levels
Level 7: Can be highly dogmatic, self-righteous, intolerant, and inflexible. Begin dealing in absolutes: they alone know "The Truth." Everyone else is wrong: very severe in judgments, while rationalizing own actions.
Level 8: Become obsessive about imperfection and the wrongdoing of others, although they may fall into contradictory actions, hypocritically doing the opposite of what they preach.
Level 9: Become condemnatory toward others, punitive and cruel to rid themselves of wrongdoers. Severe depressions, nervous breakdowns, and suicide attempts are likely. Generally corresponds to the Obsessive-Compulsive and Depressive personality disorders
If you want to know more about this, check this.
So, why do you (player) like Rika as character?
Because it's okay, I know people who actually like Rika. I don't, but I definitely don't hate her either...
You don't need to be worried about it as long as you know what she did was wrong. That's it. Now, why do you like her/identify with her?
Things that might, or not, ring a bell:
* Trauma: Rika has a traumatic past. And you might feel like it's a mirror of your past. Hence identifying with it might not be something difficult. Of course this doesn't mean you are leader of some religious cult.
* Her willingness to fight despite having everything at odds. Let's not forget that before she goes nuts and starts brainwashing people, she did a lot of great deeds. Tried to stay positive and all that.
* Her kindness (we can discuss over certain things, but as much as she did terrible things, she also did amazing things, like creating the RFA to help people. Wether she did it with a certain master plan in mind or not, she did helped as much as she hurt and that's the important part.)
* She's just a great villain! It might be hard to understand for some people but you actually just look at her character as what it is, a character, and you're impressed by how many discussions and hot debates she brings onto the table. Understandable!
* Her flower means forgiveness♡
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Do you have any other ideas for why you might like Rika? I'd be happy to read them. 💕
Also, this might be one of my last post about her. Might not be the last but I do need to finish with the Mystic Messenger Timeline, and I will but I don't think I have a lot more material to write about. So thank you for sticking with me all this time! I'm linking the main post on MysMe theories I have, I still need to finish tying up all nicely. But we're coming to the end. I'm definitely talking about trauma, coping mechanisms, parenthood, childhood and societal pressures but it'll be in other posts, possibly not even linking them to this one. Who knows? Stay tuned~!
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References:
Mayo Clinic - Narcissistic Disorder Personality
Between Narcissistic & People pleaser
Medium - Beware a narcissist with a hero complex
Paired Life - Hero & Narcissist
Enneagram Institute - One
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