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mermaidsirennikita · 3 days
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Sadly, the Wuthering Heights furor has also led to people (many of whom, let us be real, simply dislike the book or otherwise only think of it when it's brought up) to discourse about the content of the novel versus the wrongness of Emerald Fennell's choices with regards to the movie, which of course, has opened up the classic "IT'S NOT A ROMANCE! IT'S NOT A LOVE STORY! BAD PEOPLE! HATE STORY!"
... Which is... also a bad take.
First off, to be very clear, "Romance" is not inherently "genre romance", which is the thing I blog a lot about that was solidified in the latter half of the twentieth century (and which, no doubt, was influenced on some level by WH as much as Jane Eyre, Austen novels and so on). Wuthering Heights is a romance, it's just not a genre romance/romance novel. And indisputably, Wuthering Heights is a love story.
It may not be a love story you like. It may not be a love story with a happily ever after (though I will say—this is one of the few books where I think it's pretty debatable, as "wandering the moors as ghosts", if that is what happened, is kind of... what Cathy and Heathcliff would've wanted... and their ultimate desire was to be TOGETHER, regardless of whether or not it damned them, so is it an HEA in their freaky minds? Maybe so lol). It may ALSO be an abuse story in which the lovers act horribly to each other.... though, I gotta say, MUCH WORSE to literally everyone else in their lives than they do to each other...
But it's a love story. That is one of several things it happens to be. The entire novel is driven by this central love story between Heathcliff and Cathy—a love that is, contrary to what a surface-level reading or reading by word of mouth would imply... very much mutual. I've already gone on about how Cathy Earnshaw is not Heathcliff's victim the way Isabella Linton is, and how Cathy is very much as involved in the love affair as he is. But truly, while their individual internal struggles are the framework and what keeps them apart in many ways—Heathcliff being a man of color and subject to racist abuse, Cathy conforming to society and classist pressures when her natural temperament is very much not of society—what propels the story is this romance.
Because they are supposed to be read as extremely similar, and as two people who do not truly identify with anyone but one another. They're supposed to be read as like minds. They're supposed to be read as thwarted. Some of the things those two say about each other and to each other are legitimately some of the most romantic lines I've ever read.
I mean, are they also kind of sick and wrong? Sure! But I do find it kind of rich to see people who are totally fine with reading dark romance wring their hands over the public at large interpreting Heathcliff and Cathy's relationship as an epic romance. I don't have an issue with anyone enjoying either! But. Let us be real. Part of why y'all are even enjoying work like that is the standard that books like WH set, and the fact that WH does speak to the lure of the dark and the tragedy of people who are super imperfect... and also super in love... continuously fucking up their own lives (and the lives of basically everyone around them) in this push-pull of denial and desire.
When people say "HOW COULD ANYONE EVER INTERPRET THIS AS ROMANTIC?" I just have to question... did you read the book? Because even if it's not for YOU, if it's not romantic TO YOU, surely you can see why other people (me and mine lol) read lines like these and go, "Wow, romantic":
“Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am living. You said I killed you--haunt me then. The murdered do haunt their murderers. I believe--I know that ghosts have wandered the earth. Be with me always--take any form--drive me mad. Only do not leave me in this abyss, where I cannot find you! Oh, God! It is unutterable! I cannot live without my life! I cannot live without my soul!”
(fun fact: I do have a part of the above quote tattooed on my body and I'm very happy about it)
"My great miseries in this world have been Heathcliff's miseries, and I watched and felt each from the beginning: my great thought in living is himself. If all else perished, and he remained, I should still continue to be; and if all else remained, and he were annihilated, the universe would turn to a mighty stranger: I should not seem a part of it."
"Hush, my darling! Hush, hush, Catherine! I'll stay. If he shot me so, I'd expire with a blessing on my lips."
[said when her damn husband is almost at the door lol]
"I’m not wishing you greater torment than I have, Heathcliff. I only wish us never to be parted: and should a word of mine distress you hereafter, think I feel the same distress underground, and for my own sake, forgive me!"
"'Heathcliff, dear! you should not be sullen now. Do come to me, Heathcliff.’
In her eagerness she rose and supported herself on the arm of the chair. At that earnest appeal he turned to her, looking absolutely desperate. His eyes, wide and wet, at last flashed fiercely on her; his breast heaved convulsively. An instant they held asunder, and then how they met I hardly saw, but Catherine made a spring, and he caught her, and they were locked in an embrace from which I thought my mistress would never be released alive..."
"Kiss me again; and don’t let me see your eyes! I forgive what you have done to me. I love my murderer—but yours! How can I?"
[Read: she is the murderer he is talking about. He's saying she doomed herself to death a long time ago, and he hates her for it. While also crying and kissing her lmao]
They're sickos! Nobody can argue otherwise. But that does not mean they're not in love, and it doesn't mean this isn't a love story, and wagging your fingers at people who read this as the obviously destructive love story this is and find it romantic... doesn't change that.
And the thing is that the book makes it pretttyyyy clear that even if Heathcliff and Cathy has assholery programed into their personalities, WITHOUT the contexts of how they were raised and the society that expects them both to conform to prescribed roles, they would probably just... be together. Like, they victimize people, especially Heathcliff. But they are also victims. The book isn't about a critique of two people Emily Bronte dreamed up; it's a critique of the CIRCUMSTANCES by way of Gothic, subversive melodrama. At the end of the day, their feelings, however passionate they are, are not inherently subversive. Their feelings are NATURAL. But they're twisted and contorted into something ugly through circumstance and the characters' responses to those circumstances.
For Heathcliff, A LOT of those circumstances that did twist him are in fact out of his control. Which is why we hate that casting, right?
But all that said, a love story being dirtybadwrong and about Bad People doesn't mean it isn't a love story, lol. Again—we don't even expect genre romance to be about good people.
Like. Yeah. We know Heathcliff and Cathy are assholes. You're not breaking new ground with that take. The book is still, in many ways, about those assholes being in love.
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cometcrystal · 13 hours
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Bujeet is insane. "You just wanna bully someone you love🥺" HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO INTERPRET THAT DWAMPY
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itz-pandora · 2 days
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Guys watch this before clicking read more
I have so many thoughts
THE PARALLEL BETWEEN MARIA'S WOUND AND THE DESTROYED MOON?!!! OH MY GOD!!!! OH MY. MY GOD. That's the entire reason I started writing my thoughts down because that's way past important. Where's that post about the symbolism and correlation between Maria's name and the moon because that's all I can think about
AND I LOVE how they're choosing to portray Maria recently, excited and eager for everything, even though it hurts her. Also how fascinated she is with earth makes me happy. I love the idea she'll just endlessly ramble to Shadow about Earth. Also her VA does a good job at letting you know how out of breath she is and how she's still all upbeat even tho she's literally about to pass out
Also ?!!! I AM GOING A BIT CRAZY AT SHADOWS PORTRAYAL!! I'm so hyped to see how he's interpreted in Generations. He seems so confused, and like each time period he's in impacts his personality heavily, like he's still with them on the ARK. He wants to save everyone even though he knows he can't and I'm SCRATCHING AT THE WALLS because of it. I think the way that they'll try to portray him going into the past is with him being only half-aware of everything, OR, HE'S TRYING TO LIVE A LIE TO MAKE HIMSELF FEEL BETTER. Ohmygod the second one makes me feel ill because he just wants to be happy, he wants to keep his little family together and safe, but he knows that the fate is inevitable, just wondering if he could've stopped it. It's haunting to him. The feeling of not being in control is present throughout the entire episode, where he's constantly dragged through each event, each one being more exhausting than the last. Everything is happening to him, he's not the driving force, and that's the sad part, he had an entire game about defining his identity, and still, he's always been a puppet to someone else, bent to their will.
I'M SO CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING WITH GERALD BECAUSE ITS DEFINITELY SOMETHING. SHADOW WHAT DID HE DO TO YOU??? Shadow had to PHYSICALLY CLASP HIS HEAD BECAUSE OF THIS. I NEED TO KNOW.
Dude is this supposed to be Shadow's second traumatic flashback regarding the ARK, since in the hero story of SHTH, there's an entire level about the ARK where he plays with Maria as his sidekick, and it was triggered by hearing the sirens of the ARK (which I LOVE btw. Of COURSE he'd associate the noise with events since it's been drilled into his psyche before the amnesia)
I LOVE how scared he is at the end. He's sooooo panicked. I love how they give him the sparks when he's overwhelmed, it makes me feel so happy.
Who is HE?! It can't be Shadow before his memory loss, that guy did NOT SURVIVE. Also idk if they're going to return to the "pre and post amnesia Shadow are different people" thing they implied, because I think it'd be best to have it be like his memories are fragmented, and it's all about remembering, and THEN WE GET A NEW INTERPRETATION OF SHADOW?? Pls? Like not new but somewhere in between SA2 and after that, but with more little brother energy because MARIA IS HERE!!!!
GUYS WHAT ARE THOSE FLOWERS AT THE END AND WHAT DO THEY MEAN. PLEASE TELL ME SINCE THEY PROBABLY HAVE SYMBOLISM
This is so disorganized sorry I'm not normal at all
And ofc Eggman's piss was still on the moon. We love continuity
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yuujiheart · 20 hours
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I want to talk about sukuna's conclusion specifically..but before that... URAUMEEEEE IS SO CUTEEEE.....I LOVE HOW THEY ARE LOYAL TO SUKUNA AND SUKUNA TOO TREATING THEM GENTLY AS THEY BOTH GET READY TO WALK DOWN THE REINCARNATION PATH. TO LIVE THEIR LIFE AS A COMPLETE NEW PERSON.
honestly it kinda reminded me of the gojo megumi relationship. As I feel sukuna must have saved uraume from somewhat a similar situation to his own ig.. like gojo saved megumi . But uraume decided to dedicate their life to sukuna and accepted them as their master. ( more than benefactor)
I am seeing many interpretations of this page but what i believe is sukuna had the opportunities to change himself before too, one was through a shrine maiden girl and second uraume but instead of caring for them as a family or as a guardian he chose to include them in his endless journey for revenge.
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Basically he rejected both choices since he couldn't forgive those who cursed him...must be a wound too deep..But after coexisting with yuji and fighting him he lost and changed, was able to recognize his flaws and faults.. See the smile on his face. He feels so relaxed.. Yuji really freed him from his curse...
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He realized he could have lived too but chose to curse them.... And now he wishes that if a chance comes again he would go for a different path... Here he decides for uraume too that they too will go North since he was the one who put them on this " Throw away the humanity" path so it's his responsibility to guide them to their new life too.
Now about that shrine maiden girl. I don't think it's his mother or yorozu... And the reason is this
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Here Yorozu thinks sukuna already knows love and i don't think she was referring to motherly love here..
Moreover it feels like he was an active curse user and was mature when these choices came before him . So naturally it can't be her mother. Another thing is miko is supposed to be a young virgin girl and that's visible in the panel..
I personally believe if what he's imagining is his mother then she wouldn't look that young. .. If gege wanted us to think it's his mother he would have drawn her a little old Ig.. Maybe like maki's mother...
Now that we know sukuna was not truly honest to himself, this actually made me question why he decided to become a cursed object and cross ages... . Was it only just to fight?? Was there something else too... Did kenjaku know and that's why they forced him to coexist with yuji?? Did they know yuji is capable of handling sukuna emotionally.? And the way he dodged kashimo's question also didn't help ..
So i would like to play safe and wait for gege's confirmation.. Because I don't think he brought that up only to not address it again..
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jellyfish-neo · 4 months
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Looking through 'Star Trek: "Where No One Has Gone Before" A History In Pictures" and found this quote from ds9 writer Michael Piller????? WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS.
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geodetojoy · 19 days
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MUMBOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THIS TO MEEE
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THE HEART???? THE HEART?????
i hate them
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critter-covenant · 6 months
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Have had fun learning how to digitalize traditional sketches, little messy but it has its charm me thinks :]
og and uncolored traditional sketch!
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dekusleftsock · 2 months
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Possessive freak
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josephsaturn · 6 months
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Man, can’t believe that AFO being Kotaro Shimura’s sugar daddy is canon, huh 
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rockinxrocco · 6 months
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so wolverine and morph def have something going on right
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hobgoblinns · 5 months
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thoschei mutuals how are we feeling after hearing the saxon theme played in the latest ep
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millenari · 6 months
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ik everyone talks about Tugger/Misto homoeroticism in cats and such, but (as a tuggoff shipper myself) I do think Tugger and Misto being just friends is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of their relationship.
however I genuinely don't think there's a single feasible heterosexual explanation for whatever was going on in this shot
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fallenbhaalspawn · 15 days
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one of the things about Orin that fascinates me is how she definitely is a dedicated bhaalist, but not nearly as dedicated to bhaal and how that's shown in a bunch of little (many unintentional) ways! her outfit being red instead of the traditional bhaalist black (or that weird bronze/gold some bhaalist armor gets), her title of the Red given to her not by bhaal nor fellow bhaalists, but by her cognate doppelgangers, the jewelry she shares with her mother but is worn by no other bhaalists, etc.
even before she says "I did all this for [Sarevok]!" and finding her Helena's corpse in Orin's room even after her mother attempted to kill her, a fact which she is clearly and justifiably caught up in, you can still see the breadcrumbs leading to the fact she is primarily driven by her more direct familial connections instead of her god
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microposting · 25 days
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noncon haters reblogging my posts where I fetishize domestic abuse: awesome!! this behavior seems ethically justifiable to me!
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parchmentknight · 5 months
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realizing that i am an outlier in fandoms because i do not ship anyone with anyone
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gothamstreetcat · 5 months
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sometimes it kills me to think about how much wesley and lilah loved each other but some people seriously believe it was a toxic relationship built on hate sex
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