#honestly i agree with the analysis

[ashersdestiny]

Lloyd with giving people second-infinity chances and get him hurt at the end and pulling "I know this isn't you" bs, such a trauma-able ninja :3

Why are y’all so upset with lloyd in crystallized and how he treats garmadon and harumi? it makes sense-

!! ninjago season 8/sons of garmadon, season 16/crystallized spoilers !!

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[r0semultiverse]

Hey, Jake & Jack fans, is this anything?

Both men imprisoned (literal & metaphorical).

Both offered an out from their current predicament by an outside force (arguably in the case of Brain Ghost Dirk).

Both have loose ties to Lord English visually.

Yellow initial glow & Gamzee involvement too.

Sometimes a guy just needs to explode (same pose too).

Both dual wielding weapons.

That same said weapon type (for Jack Noir) having killed Jane Crocker.

It's really looking like Jake is going to do her in.

I would also like to point out that we've had interactions involving these three (Jane, Jake, and Brain Ghost Dirk) before that consisted of similar topics & themes.

Brain Ghost Dirk implying that he's just there as moral support, a manifestation of Jake's powers, and as a coping mechanism. Jane also talking about ruling an empire with him while talking down to him, similar to how she saw and/or still sees him in Beyond Canon's Candy timeline. Jake also being uncertain about doing anything to harm her despite all the bad things she's doing.

Brain Ghost Dirk going away tells us that Jake's more hopeful than he's ever been. This is the moment where he is the most sure of his decisions than he's ever been in his life, whatever those decisions may be in regards to Jane and how to handle this situation.

He is probably going to shoot Jane down, quite literally. I would also argue that after all this time, the lad isn't beating the Lord English allegations. We might as well have a parallel of him killing Jane much like how Jack Noir killed her right before he got possessed by Lil Cal & given some of Lord English's immense power.

Alternatively maybe we'll get to see what the power of hope or hope bullets can do to someone whose done so much wrong & come so far off the deep end in terms of moral wrongdoings. Maybe with every shot that hits her, she'll begin to be swayed to the side of good & start to self-reflect.

I'm still not fully convinced that Gamzee actually cured Tavros' peanut allergy, I mean just look at the panel.

This could absolutely be interpreted as Jake injecting his hope power into the epipen and by proxy injecting both his power & the epipen into his son! If younger Jake is strong enough to defeat Grimbark Jade, then adult Jake might just be strong enough to defeat a peanut allergy is all I'm saying! In fact, now that I'm rambling about it, this seems like the more likely outcome is Jake's hope power swaying or (in the very least) confusing Jane mid-fight. Hope bullets, they would look cool & would be pretty strong!

The power of believing in others & wanting things to change can be a strong tool indeed, Mister English.

If there's one person who still believes in changing Jane's mind (or bringing her back to proper canonicity depending on how you interpret the recent lore), it would be Jake English, the believer.

Okay, maybe this is something! Tally ho!

[godmademeinmspaint]

Going to say this now even though I barely post here::::: Adaptations are never meant to be a 1:1 recreation of the original source material. The goal is never to recreate the exact same experience in a different format, the whole point of remaking something in a different format is to make something new.

I don’t understand why people are out here acting like the new Netflix ATLA walked onscreen, shot the original with a 44 and declared itself the new ATLA. I’m not saying you can’t criticise anything about it or any other adaptation, I just think a lot of people need to remember that an adaptation that gives you the same experience and explores the exact same themes and doesn’t elaborate on or look at things in different angles would be utterly pointless.

[le-panda-chocovore]

Kinda meta but. Satosugu on both ends.

[ ID in ALT ]

Let me elaborate.

Teenagers SatoSugu is the cutest thing ever. They're the only one who are able to catch up with the other. They're the strongest together. They are pieces of a puzzle that fit perfectly. They complete each other, they understand each other, they help each other and more importantly, they love each other. No one else can follow the path of Gojo Satoru and makes him feel human other than Suguru. No one else can bring a genuine smile on Geto Suguru's face and makes his life worth living fully other than Satoru. They're the epitome of young exorcists.

Adults Satosugu are the messiest divorced couple ever. Satoru cannot love without consuming entirely the person. Suguru cannot be saved because he's already gone too far. They are soulmates and cannot live without the other. They have been separated for years. They cannot kill each other, they cannot be with each other. They never forgot the other. Their breakup happened eons ago and they still consider the other as their one and only. And they make it everyone else's problem. Because Satoru wasn't able to burn Suguru's body, the Shibuya Incident happened. Because Suguru's memories of Satoru were so strong, Kenjaku was able to make his plan and seal the strongest sorcerer. Every one of their choices and words and actions was just an I love you so fucking loud that it doomed the universe to destruction.

[ricksanchezsimpaccount]

actually no, surprise, i have MORE thoughts bc i still have not stopped thinking about this episode

i think there's something to be said about the fact that Rick Prime lost...because he underestimated a Morty. like. OUR Rick was basically dead, he lost. Evil Morty was the reason Rick Prime lost

Also is it just me...or did Rick Prime seem afraid of Evil Morty once Evil Morty had him tied up? He was bargaining with him. Offering him a role as his sidekick because he was rapidly realizing he couldn't wiggle out of this (while still offering him a role as a 'sidekick', not an equal--feels like him scrambling to keep up the facade that he's still in control)

And honestly...Rick Prime kinda felt like he was a little afraid of our Rick too? Once he was tied down and helpless...idk maybe I'm reading too much into it but I heard a quiver in his voice when he says "Buddy, nip this in the bud!", he was desperately trying to get Rick to abandon his goal of killing him to go after Evil Morty instead. trying to posit Evil Morty as the bigger threat here

Like he tries to goad both Evil Morty and our Rick, and I swear I hear a tremor of fear in his voice when he realizes, both times, that they're not responding to it and it's not working

[rarepairronpa]

any thoughts/headcanons about celeste x ryoko? personally i think ryoko would forget "celeste's" name and starts calling her taeko, much to celeste's dismay ajahdjshd

on a serious note, with how narcissistic (imo) celeste is, she kinda would use ryoko as an ego boost. idk if that makes sense but when ryoko was junko, their relationship feels like a chess game or a poker match to me, with celeste being the one that has her moves figured out too fast. she wants junko's approval, her affection, her love, or any kind of vulnerability that would have celeste come out one step above junko. and with junko being junko, well.

and ryoko wears her heart on her sleeve. she's extremely vulnerable, and ryoko would be the ace up celeste's sleeve in their hypothetical poker match, the confirmation that junko does indeed care about her, the emotional vulnerability that celeste could exploit. she does love ryoko/junko back but imo, celeste's biggest flaw is her inflated ego—it gets in the way of her trying to form any attachments—and she would use ryoko as a way to get back at junko.

I have finally, finally gotten to answering this after days of saying I would! Oof, so sorry it took me so long.

But I really like this interpretation! Of Ryouko being confirmation to Celeste that Junko does love her, and having the emotional vulnerability that Celeste craves that she doesn't get from Junko. I think she would like this two fold—because I think Celeste does want to be cherished, so... Ryouko unabashedly cherishing her would soothe that part of her. But as you said... she also likes having some degree of power over people, especially because the Junko/Celeste dynamic is such a give or take where Junko holds all the cards (I'm invisioning Celestia and Junko as sort of... locked in a battle of love. Sort of like Kaguya-sama love is war, where both of them are sort of in a competition to make the other be vulnerable with them... only saw the first episode of that anime, but—something like that is what I'm envisioning) and Celeste is left scrambling. So Ryouko would be... extremely validating for Celestia in multiple ways, and I do think she'd sort of get back at Junko with Ryouko; lightly bullying her at times.

Part of that "getting back" at her is just. Well. Making her admit she loves her, which Ryouko does easily and freely, not knowing it's supposed to be a secret she keeps close to her chest. And Celestia loves that. I think where it becomes hurtful to Ryouko is the fact that Celeste never does the same, but... I actually don't think Ryouko would mind that much, because she never minded with Yasuke. She even appreciates that Yasuke doesn't offer her pity like others do. Ryouko has unreasonable faith in love. She knew as Junko that Yasuke loved her, and that's something Ryouko never forgets. She brushes off all his cruelty because she knows instinctively that it's hot air (to some degree). What makes her upset is when Yasuke doesn't believe her when she tells him she loves him. Being denied her own feelings, her own lived reality, is what upsets her. Because the feelings she remembers are the only thing she can trust in her world. More than that, those feelings are her whole world. She can't believe in anything else, because she doesn't remember anything else.

And that's... kind of how she likes it. Ryouko and Junko are both afraid of the world, of the despair of the world, it's just how they deal with that that differs. Junko choses to embrace that despair, so it can't truly hurt her. Ryouko chooses to forget. To run. These are both born of the same thing—fear. Ryouko instinctively knows that... if she let the world in, it would hurt her. In a way, it always does; everytime she forgets about the world, that's the world rejecting her. It hurts. But that's paradoxically why she embraces forgetting it—because it means she'll forget that it hurts. And... Yasuke is the only exception to this. She loves him, and he's all he remembers. So that's the only thing she can have faith in. Her only connection to the world. She clings to it, because it's all she has.

But. It also means he's the only thing that can hurt her. And that's why you get her breakdown at him in DR0, with her begging him to make her forget about him. Because Yasuke is the only thing she cares about, and that means he's the only thing that can cause her despair. If she forgets about him, she'll be entirely free from despair. From the world she thinks is inherently cruel. From the world she fears. That's why she doesn't want to remember. Because then, she'll have to care about the world, and that hurts. She'd rather it have "nothing to do with her," so she forgets. Ryouko is just as contradictory and twisted as Junko in that way; because forgetting hurts her, but if she forgets, she'll forget even that hurt. That's why she clings to Yasuke; he's all she has, and if she loses him, she'd have nothing. That's why she wants to forget Yasuke; because if she has nothing, she can never be hurt by the world again.

It's the exact same reason why Junko embraces despair.

(Well, of course it is. They're the same person.)

So. How would this relate to Celestia/Junko? Hmm. Well, I think Celeste would have just as hard a time getting under Ryouko's skin. Because, while she's winning in the sense that Ryouko is being vulnerable and honest, Ryouko... doesn't actually see this as a competition at all, in the first place. She also would have faith in Celeste's love and disregard her words, because, like... she knew Celestia loved her as Junko, too; the fun was just getting her to admit that. So... Celestia's bullying wouldn't... bug her that much. Maybe she'd theatrically mimic upset, like she did to some degree with Yasuke, but... that's more of a game to her. (Even if she somewhat means that upset sincerely.) I'm thinking specifically when Yasuke would call her ugly, she'd basically be like "I'll fix it!" which she meant, but she was very theatrical about it, and wasn't actually that upset, because she knew even if Yasuke found her ugly sincerely, he'd still love her. So: sincerely miffed about being called ugly and willing to "fix it" to accommodate Yasuke's taste, but also not deeply upset about it because she deep down knew he'd love her anyway. Playing it up to some degree because it's banter, and that's what they do, that's how they have fun. Ryouko isn't really taking his words seriously, and neither is he. (Which is kind of the foundation of what upsets her later on: she doesn't realize some of what he said is meant sincerely, and she's upset when she realizes that he also didn't take the foundation of their banter- her love for him- seriously either. Ryouko knows that Yasuke loves her, so he doesn't take his hate to heart, despite that hate also being sincere. She takes their banter as unserious, even though Yasuke's words are founded on sincere feelings. Similarly, Yasuke doesn't take Ryouko's love seriously, because he doesn't believe in it—he thinks Junko was only using him from the start. So he doesn't take her banter seriously either, even though that was also built on sincere feelings. Which... upsets Ryouko in that breakdown scene when she realizes. Only for her to forget that hurt again, which.... means this conflict is never solved.)

So I could see Ryouko just... brushing off everything and treating Celestia's power plays and teasing as... just a game between them, as banter. She wouldn't take the base of them seriously either, and she... wouldn't really be bothered by it. So... Celestia is left trying to win a game they aren't playing. Combined with Ryouko calling her Taeko, Celestia could eventually find the whole thing very grating.

Because she IS winning against Junko, but Junko isn't even there TO play, and Ryouko is playing something completely different. If Celestia was playing chess against Junko, Ryouko is playing checkers. They're just not operating on the same wavelength anymore... which could paradoxically make Celestia insecure, which would make her seek even more validation from Ryouko.

Ryouko on her side is like... wow! Taeko really likes it when I tell her I love her! She must also really love me to want to hear it so much!

So Celestia is not winning the checkers.

[fairyhaos]

omg now thinking about I spent so long trying to guess your bias at the beginning DHDJDJ it does feel like forever ago. Ofc at the beginning I was like 'must be hao because obviously it's in the username' but someone asked and you said no and then I went through all members and joshua and wonwoo were the ones that made the most sense to me (based on how they are and the vibes you gave) 🤔 if only I had put that much effort when studying lmao 💀

my bestie mentioned recently that we're similar to our biases, she then said 'look at you and kwannie' while I was eating a tangerine so long story short I have to marry seungkwan ✨

- 🍒

LITERALLY it feels like so long ago...... yeah the hao in my user really did throw everyone for a loop and i was so surprised by that bc like??? i didn't know that it would make people think he was my bias. i just really love fairy!minghao lmao

stop the detective skills 🕵 that's so funny and so sweet like u cared about me :(( that much :((( not gonna lie. ive been told im wonu coded by irl friends too and that makes me vv happy but im still always gonna be a joshu girlie thru and thru

yess omg it's actually crazy how people sometimes really do resemble their biases! stop im imagining you nomming on a tangerine now and you know what? let's go on a mission to kidnap kwan so that he can marry you just as he ought 😌

[keithsandwich]

Still in this mood here.

[ohnonotyou]

While I agree that cruelty is a major part of it, I don't think it's the actual point.

From what I've seen, collecting more people to jump on a person that anti's deem 'bad' is the point.

Cruelty is the choice of method they use, and it works because others don't want that cruelty pointed at them.

The majority of people will say no to someone politely asking something especially if they appear distant by just providing logic (even if it's heavily flawed), but if someone starts screaming 'think of the children! They're monsters hell bent on profiting off of survivors!' and starts waving pitchforks and torches at /one/ person or a small group of people, then others are more likely to step forward and join them.

And if you've been swallowed into a group of antis and you go 'huh, this actually is a bit much' then you're /inside/ the mob filled with pitchforks and torches.

Realistically I think the major issue is how people's online life has been so intrinsically embedded into their personal life. And how as a society we're unable to separate the two.

You don't walk up to someone watching Game of Thrones and go 'ah so you support rape and sexual assault and beheadings and etc.' we've moved on from that, but now it's 'ah you read fanfic about X so you support x'

It's the same old song and dance, and eventually it'll move on from fanfic to something else. It sucks, it really fucking sucks, but it's a a cycle that I highly doubt will be broken.

Realistically, the only thing that can stop antis is basically what we're doing now. Talking about it, supporting creators that are being targeted, showing them that they're the minority so no not everyone thinks like that and for fucks sake would you just pick up any kind of history book and use whatever critical thinking skills you've got and fuck off?

this callout couldve been a block button

[samiferboy]

bottom sam truthing until I die. sorry

[iwoulddieforienzo]

Interacting with fandom is really fun and I enjoy it a lot but also it’s been years since I’ve agreed with general fanon characterization of even minor background characters I don’t think about much. I don’t tend to like most popular ships and when I DO like them I don’t agree with how their relationship is portrayed. I tend to prefer platonic relationships and we all know how that goes. Pretty much every relationship I have ever preferred (both platonically and romantically) is a rare pair. My favorite characters tend to have like 10 minutes of screentime and a lot of Implications. Am I a contrarian or simply Enlightened? The world will never know (it is a secret third option: I am Annoying)

[isekyaaa]

Ngl, the reason why I post my analyses and headcanons so often is primarily for the reason that if I don't, I most definitely will forget and then will regret it heavily later when I'm trying to remember.

[divineturtle]

Bothers me when I'm reading a fanfic and they make Doctor Leonard "Bones" McCoy just like. A mean asshole? MY Doctor McCoy introduced Spock to baby talk. MY Doctor McCoy bounces on his toes and has a smile bright as the sun. MY Doctor McCoy knocked Kirk *and* Spock out with a hypo to sacrifice himself for them even though the aliens said he was almost for sure going to die, and the other two would probably live. MY Doctor McCoy was like, hey, sure Spock committed mutiny, but do we really gotta arrest him? Yeah he's grumpy sometimes, but have you considered the fact that he's stuck on a ship in Space with two assholes that literally never listen?

I just watched the Abraham Lincoln episode and I stg it's a miracle McCoy isn't actually a huge asshole, because wym "this planet WAS deadly but Abraham Lincoln says it's cool so we're going" "hey, don't do that, you could beam down into lava and literally DIE" "Ugh shut UP McCoy we're following Abraham Lincoln onto the Lava Planet That WAS ENTIRELY LAVA until two minutes ago" dude I'd be swinging at a mfer. Especially if I was their doctor knowing it was going to be my job to sew them back together. They're absolute menaces to him and he still loves them and is willing to die for them every other episode.

And I don't ever want to see another "ahh he hates Spock" when he so obviously does not. In the last episode, he wasn't even sure that Kirk and Janice had swapped bodies and yet again, he was ready to commit mutiny with Spock and Scotty (why does Spock love mutiny? 🤨) He does like to rib Spock and get reactions out of him, but Spock likes to do it to McCoy just as much. He's been around humans his ENTIRE life, his mom is a human, he's half human, "I have no idea what you mean, Doctor, I'm just a simple little logic machine," you cannot convince me it's not a game.

And every time I feel like McCoy is being hurtful for actually no reason, the next scene is Spock taking action because of whatever McCoy had said and allowing himself to tap into that human part of him. He has a way of speaking Spock. It's not always nice but it's a way that gets through. Do you think asking Spock to use his Vulcan powers to permanently alter his friend and captain's memory so he forgets his grief over this chick he fell desperately for and then also she died in the span of like four hours is a great idea? No, he'd probably have some moral or logical issues with that. but just speech at him about love and feelings and stuff, throw something in there about how great it'd be if he could just forget, and he'll do it himself.

ANOTHER THING. When he's an asshole, he apologizes. He's not an asshole often, but when he is, he apologizes. Leonard McCoy is a lot of things, but he's not really a dick.

I think he deserves to be represented for the guy he is. He has SO many nice and good moments, he's just subtle about them. Remember when Kirk was like, "Bones, why didn't you tell me she was blind?" And he was like, "Idk Jim maybe because that'd be rude? Have you considered it's not your business?" REAL. Honestly, real.

This is a much longer rant than I meant for it to be and somehow I still have more I could say so imma cut myself off right here ❤️ If you read all that, thanks, you're just as weird as I am, even if you don't agree with my lil character analysis. If you didn't read all that, then you're not reading this ✨️

[doppel-doodles]

A normal post a about Kevin Barnes from Poppy Playtime.

I genuinely feel so bad for Kevin…

Like that was a kid who clearly had a lot of issues from the start, instead of getting the help he needed all that happened was him being marked off as a „problem child“.

And then he was turned into a toy:/

Read more of my full thoughts and a sorta character analysis/ramblings below cut!

Like honestly no wonder he is seething if he wasn’t troubled before he definitely is now-

Obviously he has no trust in anyone, almost every adult he ever knew screwed him over in some way, hell even the kids he shares a body with would go against what he would do.

(Great example: When Doey chases us in his monster form, it's the arms of Matthew and Jack that are trying to keep his mouth from biting us, Kevin's are trying to grab for us.)

He was hurt over and over again, clearly he wasn’t aggressive just because he wanted to be but because this was his only way of making sure he wouldn’t get hurt.

It was how he had a semblance of control, a sense of protection.

But of course the irony is: That coping mechanism brought him more pain, it was what got him killed.

Sure, maybe he could've just "calmed down", but why would he? He was hurt again, he lost everything AGAIN.

All because he listened to their judgement over his own. Kevin could've killed the player and Poppy on sight, clearly his emotions easily overpowered the other two, but he didn't.

Instead he agreed to trust them as well.

He was still willing to do that, surely if he were just a mindless monster he wouldn't be.

And you know what? I believe he blames himself just as much if not more for what happened than he blames us and Poppy and projects it tenfold.

Because maybe, JUST MAYBE-

If he didn't allow himself to trust again, then everyone would still be alive.

But he did...now see what that got him?

In his mind he's proven right.

So what's an emotionally unstable child to do? After being hurt AGAIN?

That's right.

He lashes out at the first thing he sees that had something to do with his pain:

Us.

Is he in the right? Hell nah- bro we didn't mean for that to happen! But do you seriously think this kid is thinking rationally right now??? NO! He is seeing red right now, he is in fight mode! All emotions and must I reiterate that the only way he knows how to express them is through anger and violence?

There is NO reasoning with wrath try as you might! And that hurts because yeah maybe you could've dealt with that if he was still a gradeschooler but he isn't! He is 900 pounds of living dough with a thirst for blood!

It's either our life or his now. And we already know what the outcome of that is.

Honestly I think it's better that we only hear Matthew and Jack apologise for what happened, I do not think Kevin would even if he did feel bad for what he had done.

Because why would someone who has been scorned so many times be vulnerable all of the sudden? When his main character trait is biting at those who bark at him?Why would all that rage suddenly disappear? If anything the stress of dying only causes him to lash out more.

You don't need an apology from him to feel bad for him.

He is hurting anyone with two eyes can see that and for what it's worth, I do believe deep down he knew what he was doing was wrong but it was too late for him to see any other alternatives and even if he didn't and thought he was right for doing what he did it doesn't take away from the fact that he was fucked over by life.

Kevin is not the worst part of Doey, he is just a part of him.

And that part is not just a violent hunk of playdough.

It’s a scared, confused little boy that cared just as much about every toy in safe haven as his other two components did.

Because if he didn’t why would he get so angry about their death?

Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk-

Also feel free to agree or disagree with my take, those are just my thoughts so let me hear yours, I like discussions:}

For those interested here are some Jack thoughts and Matthew!:D

And the big blue lump Doey

[odetojupiter]

i often wonder whether the reason wymack is so lenient with andrew is bc andrew reminds him so much of himself. he’s fiercely, violently protective - something wymack can understand, as he beat his dad up for hurting his mother - and andrew is honestly a lot more aligned in the giving-people-an-extra-chance-than-they-thought-they’d-get ideology than the upperclassmen are.

think, andrew only accepting the fox contract bc nicky and aaron could get their degrees as well - something that would have been years off for aaron without a scholarship, and wouldn’t have been done at all (at least, not in the states) for nicky. think, kevin getting the chance to learn to stand on his own feet, neil getting the chance to learn to stop running, both bc of andrew. even his method of getting aaron clean gives aaron the chance to do what he wants with his life - though, it obviously could’ve been handled better, i believe that andrew chose to lock aaron in the bathroom because he knew that aaron wanted to go to med school, to become a doctor, which would have become a lot more difficult if he’d had rehab on his record. even with matt, though again his methods aren’t great, andrew gives him the opportunity to get sober for good. he’s constantly giving people the chance to deal with their issues for good, not by coddling them but by forcing them to turn around and face them head on. as far as giving out extra chances at life goes, that’s a pretty solid way to get people to turn their own life around for the better.

in fact, andrew goes out of his way to tell renee that he won’t break his neck for the upperclassmen, so that renee knows she should watch their backs. he didn’t have to tell her anything, he could’ve just left them all to their own devices, but he still gave them the opportunity for safety even tho they’d already written him off completely by that point.

idk maybe this analysis is off and ppl don’t agree with me but even in the books andrew is said to be ‘collecting strays’, which is exactly what wymack does.

just - wymack and andrew are very similar, and i love their relationship to bits.

[thegremlininyourcloset]

They make me so ill :(

Do you think Cass believes in Steph? When Bruce was being all “stop hanging out with Steph, she’ll never be like us”, Cass listened to him but she was clearly conflicted.

This is an interesting question! It kind of depends on what you mean by 'believe in'. If you mean whether Cass believes in Steph's fighting abilities, the answer depends on what era we're talking about. Modern era, particularly Batgirls '22 onwards, I'd say Cass definitely believes in Steph:

Batgirls (2022) #4

Modern Steph-Cass is defined by a deep implicit trust in each other, and Cass acknowledges that Steph is strong. They're also sharing the Batgirl mantle, and Cass associates Batgirl with strength of all kinds, moral and physical. So safe to say Cass believes in Steph now.

Handing Steph the Batgirl mantle in Batgirl (2009) can be seen as a sign of belief too (and Steph herself takes it that way). The BIG caveat, of course, is that Bruce ordered Cass to give Steph the mantle. Bruce, as usual, complicates things - though I think part of Cass believed Steph would do well, it's tangled up in her grief and loyalty to Bruce. I'd classify this era as 'Cass does believe in Stephanie, but not wholeheartedly and if they had let Cass and Steph interact properly it would've been angsty'.

Then we get to the era you're talking about, which is Steph-Cass at its messiest. The issue you're referring to, Batgirl (2000) #38, does feature Cass going against Bruce's orders to hang out with Stephanie. They play rooftop tag, and when Steph misses a jump, Cass demonstrates for her and encourages her to try again:

And Steph makes the jump without Cass' help! Cass believes in Steph's tenacity and ability to overcome obstacles, otherwise she wouldn't have made Stephanie try again.

But it's important to note that, while Cass believes in Steph's strengths, that doesn't necessarily mean she believes in Steph's vigilante/fighting abilities. Cass forces Steph to stay on the roof while she fights some gangs, and when Steph enters the fight she knocks her out and drags her away. Then we get this moment:

Cass bluntly and unhesitatingly sides with Bruce here. She values Steph, and knows that Steph has strengths she does not possess, but she does not believe Steph will ever be on her and Bruce's level. This moment of betrayal will haunt the rest of their interactions until Steph's death.

I honestly think Cass' conflict at the beginning of the issue is less to do with her disagreeing that Steph's "not like [Cass]," and more to do with her enjoying Steph's company. In fact, Cass only agrees to hang out with Steph when she frames it as "play[ing]." Cass does not seriously try to refute Bruce's dismissal of Steph at all.

It leads to this really heartbreaking scene in Batgirl (2000) #55. Just look at Steph's expression :((((. Cass genuinely loves and cares for Stephanie, but she also contributed to the generally hostile atmosphere Steph faced at the time. I think here Cass just wants to keep Steph safe, but that doesn't negate how Steph is receiving this, nor the fact that Cass straight up told her before that she believes in Bruce's perception of her.

This thread is not really picked up on after Stephanie's death, and Steph in Cass' death hallucinations tends to be very idealised. Long story short, I think at the beginning Cass didn't believe in Steph fully, but after her death this changes and now she believes in Stephanie with all her heart. But because of Steph's death/the lack of a Steph-Cass reunion, there's a lot of gaps in this process. I think Brombal might (hopefully) pick up on all this though if Steph appears again in Batgirl (2024)!!