#homeric iliad

[smorkulon]

[chaoticvintagelesbian]

The Iliad is insane. Like batshit crazy. I'm only on book 4 so far. Its chaotic af

- More 💖drama💖 than any soap opera.

- Achilles asking his mom to kill everyone just cos they upset him

- Achilles Daddy Issues!

- Achilles & Patroclus seem cute in theory, but ACHILLES DOESN'T DESERVE PATROCLUS.

- Thetis is a mafia mommy, literally every God owes her.

- hera just like if I kill ur fav city, u can kill mine

- Helen literally calls herself a slut

- Hector calls his brother paris: "sex crazed seducer", & "should never have been born" & "disgrace"

- We love Hector.

- ACHILLES IS A DISNEY PRINCESS!!!!!

- Ares just vibin in all the death.

- we live to be as petty as Eris

- almost all female characters are girlboss, gatekeep, gaslight.

- all homeric heroes literal psychopaths.💀

- agamemnon's brother gets shot, he literally makes a speech about how that affects him - Menelaus literally comforts him while bleeding

- athene grabs Achilles' hair and stops him from lunging to kill someone, while invisible. That most look so silly.

- We also love Nestor 😍

[attendingthetale]

having an iliad summer. doing a ton of brooding. might be blinded by selfishness and/or rage. considering unexpectedly dying to my hubris. hopefully that wont have devastating effects

[smorkulon]

This is a case of same name confusion. I'm not sure what your sources are, but Menoetius the Titan died during the titanomachy, therefore didn't exist when humans did (if you follow the myth that Prometheus created humans after the titanomachy).

He was also banished into Tartarus and well, as you can imagine, he either had to miraculously climb his way out of Tartarus or be revived for this to be possible... And that's unlikely as hell.

Thank you theoid.com

Here are other quotes from the classic literature that point to the fact that Zeus killed Menoetius. Not a single one of these sources say he came back to life later on and had Patroclus.

Commentary from theoi.com says that the herdsman of Hades could have been the same Menoetius/Menoites but nowhere do they say that Patroclus' father and the titan could have been one in the same. Because again. The titan literally died.

I've scoured several different sites, those that I trust much less than theoi but not a single one says that these two people were the same. They just have the same name, they aren't the same people. None of them credit them as being Patroclus father, in fact they all mention that Menoetius of Opus and Menoetius the Titan have the same name but are not the same person.

We have this problem everywhere in Greek mythology. Saying they're the same is like saying Eurydice wife of Nestor and Eurydice the nymph and wife of Orpheus are the same. Or literally name any of Nestor's children and you'll find that almost all of them have a name in common with someone else. It's just like in real life, my dead name is freakishly common, I even share my first and last legal names with someone else I attended high school with. But we aren't the same people.

Fun fact about Achilles and Patroclus:

While between their relationship most people seem to think that Achilles is the divine one and Patroclus is just a simple moral, that is not the case.

When we see Patroclus' family we know that his father(and the one who gave him to Peleus) is referred to as Menoetius. Who is Menoetius? He is both the King of Opus AND a son of Iapetus and Clymene or Asia. This makes him a brother of Prometheus and Epimetheus and a second-generation titan. He's the titan of Rashness. (in some sources it is said that he was killed by Zeus in the Titanomachy but they all credit him with being the father of Patroclus so idk)

And while Patroclus is an exile he's still the biological son of Menoetius, meaning that he has divine blood in him.

So yes, Achilles is still a demi-god, but Patroclus is also a demi-titan. Keep that in mind next time.

[muppetebbtide]

trojan war tumblr simulator

🌊 is-the-sea-wine-dark-today

YOU BET IT IS

#the wine dark sea!!!!!!!!!!!! #wine dark sea #wine dark sea posting

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✌🏻 ajax2electricboogaloo follow

why is achilles the only demigod who's Like That? like he's my boy but u don't see memnon or aeneas or sarpedon acting like him on the reg. why is he so maladjusted? like specifically? I saw his mother once and was so terrified by the sight of a goddess I flung myself to the ground and hid my face in the dirt til she left but I still don't think that accounts for it idk

🏘️ nobody1020

it's blonde man syndrome hope this helps

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⚔️ sonoftydeus

opening my askbox so that we can discuss strategies on taking troy!

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anonymous asked: we should all go home :)

⚔️ sonoftydeus answered:

FUCK OFF AGAMEMNON I WANT REAL SUGGESTIONS

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nobody1020 asked: do u like..... horses

⚔️ sonoftydeus answered:

odysseus do I even wanna know where this is going

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⌛ isthetrojanwaroveryet?

year 9, day 234: still no....

#all our admins keep DYING

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‼️ trojan-confessions follow

I think my wife might be sending me anon hate :/ keep getting asks like 'hope u die on the battlefield tomorrow silly slag' and 'menelaus should have curbstomped you' and in her big tapestry of warriors she made me look stupid

🐴 horsetaminghector follow

lmaooo is this paris??

�� cryinglikecassandra follow

kinda think helen should send MORE anon hate idk

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❓ myrmidons-confessions

I was the one who wrote the achilles/agamemnon 100k slowburn enemies to lovers rpf and put it on the group chat but now patroclus is calling me 'agachilles boy' and laughing about it and asking if I can proofread his mock bardic epic where all his dogs are heroes and killing people, so I fear I've made a mistake. I also can't look achilles in the eye anymore... but honestly I've never seen proof he can read so I might be safe

❓ myrmidons-confessions

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👑 kingofmycenae

👍🏻 ajaxthegreat

achilles is DEAD and ur posting CRAB RAVE?????

🏘️ nobody1020

I think that's why he's posting it ngl

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😹 deiphobus42069

imagine being the achaeans and your best warrior gets killed by PARIS, after everyone else had awesome deaths at the hands of sarpedon or hector or memnon... like that's literally so embarassing I just know achilles is fucking fuming down in hades rn. I bet the achaeans are gonna put around that paris was guided by apollo, or that paris happened to hit his only weak spot..... anything 2 try and make it less cringe.... lol lol we're popping the biggest bottles tonight. hope helen's there

🐆 leopardskiniscool

???????????????

#I mean. yeah. but also. #deiphobus wtf I thought we were chill

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#hope everyone can be normal about the outcome!!! :)

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🧑🏻 randotrojansoldier-deactivated-8578543

so excited to go back onto the field of battle tomorrow! sure hope I don't encounter any of the big-name heroes

🗣️ homer follow

I hope you don't too! I'm sure you'll do great!

🐎 antilochussss

not the direct address????

✌🏻 ajax2electricboogaloo

direct address got him :(

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💂🏻 trojanguardtales follow

fuck my job so much I hope that this wooden horse tribute to the gods turns out to have some guys inside or something just so I can DO something rather than standing here like a twat with my spear

💂🏻 trojanguardtales follow

by ares this can't be happening

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⚔️ sonoftydeus reblogged menelauskingofsparta

do NOT order achilles from shein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#oh yeah #I was stuck with temu achilles in the trojan horse for six hours #and by hour two agamemnon had suggested killing and eating him #and odysseus was threatening to 'send him to meet his father' #and it's not even like there's any kleos in killing priam!!! #anti neoptolemus #neoptolemus defenders dni #vent tags

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[simoondraws]

"The horse and the infant"

[ellilyre]

Do you think that Odysseus has become a kind of running joke among the gods, like when we joke about cockroachs' survivability?

For example some mortal is surviving stuff that rly should've killed him, and someone on Olympus says "is he pulling an Odysseus on us?" and everyone laughs

[miyetka]

I know I messed up the lyrics a little but oh well

[greeknerdsstuff]

⚠️It does not justify their actions in a culture and period full of war and suffering⚠️

[dreamsandconstellations]

Odysseus in Epic: the musical

[cy-lindric]

Athena holding Achilles back in the agora, first chant

[miroana]

Achilles: I-

Odysseus: I think I know more about having ideas than you do, genius

[chaoticvintagelesbian]

Glaucus: *killing Greeks and even wounding Aphrodite*

*Sees Diomedes*

Glaucus: You know what, I'm good.

[ditoob]

“Showing Athena around the Greek Camp”

Recorded by Odysseus Laertides (1700 b.C.)

[venomspecs]

odyssey adaptation where a mini odysseus appears, pauses and explains how he'll get out of his latest misadventure

[muppetebbtide]

the locked tomb x homer: a not particularly comprehensive guide that no one asked for put together by a brain-fried uni finalist and it's all probably already been said but whatever

(previously discussed by me here (insane diagram linking everything) and here (paris, hector, gideon))

(sorry 4 dodgy photo editing... tried to add Visual Interest but. well. graphic design is my passion dot jpeg)